Freaks and Geeks LONG and uncoherent ramble

[dumbledore11214]

> Kemper now:
> It's a family show. I question whether you actually watched it.  Did
> the clerk give you the name?  Perhaps they lied to you or you 
misheard
> the name.  
> 
> Still, it sounds as though you reacted, responding would be seeking
> knowledge (of course, perhaps the clerks weren't very eloquent). 
> Censoring is a knee jerk reaction... which I'm all for if porn was
> being shown in the area of young kids, same goes for rated R or M
> movie/shows. 
> 
> Kemper
>


Alla:

I had been wanting to buy or rent this show for the long time and I 
think I definitely will now.

Now, do not get me wrong, I am a very not appropriate person to ask 
about this.

The idea of not being allowed to watch or read anything I would want 
to 
when I was a kid is, how to put it, very alien to me.

I was allowed to read, well everything I could get my hands on. Now, 
of 
course when I was a young teen, soviet union society just started to 
uncensor itself, so many books or movies which could have been 
objectionable to my parents in one way or another were not on the 
market anyways.

But when I was in my later teens I was greedily swallowing all the 
masterpieces and not masterpieces that were not easily available 
before.

I think I turned out okay LOL.

Ever since every time I read that I have not seen or read the book or 
movie, but I condemn it, I keep remembering reading about campaign 
against "Doctor Shivago" in the soviet press, which could be 
summarised 
in one sentence.

" I did not read the book, but I condemn it". I am sure many know 
that 
this torture in the press caused Pasternak to give up Noble prise.

And by the way, this is a general rambling and does not relate to 
Susan's reaction.

I think that she stated specifically that she reacted to ONE aspect 
of 
the show - the excessive use of profanity. I do not think she touched 
any other aspects at all, I think she reacted to what she SAW herself.

I disagree, but I can respect that.
 
But when for example I read multiple reviews on different sites of 
the "Golden compass", which in essense stated that I have not read 
the 
book or watched the movie, but I condemn it as antireligious, I think 
those reviews to be beyond silly.

Oh I totally respect your right to condemn the book if you read it, 
uncomfortable as I am with condemning ANY written word, I respect 
written word way too much.

Moreover, if you say that you will not read it or watch it because 
you 
think it may hurt your religious feelings or something like that, I 
may 
even respect that. I mean, I also can pick the book or movie or not 
pick book or movie based on the theme of this book or movie if I know 
it.


But one cannot CRITIQUE  the work of art, if one did not read or see 
it.

IMO.

I mean, I guess I can understand the idea of not showing horror 
movies 
or very sexual movies or movies with a lot of profanity to young 
kids, 
to VERY young kids, simply because they are going to repeat in one 
way 
or another whatever they hear or see on screen. I had recently heard 
stories about 2.5 year old, who swears basically non stop simply 
because his mom swears all the time. JOY. My niece's vocabulary is 
expanding every day as well, and while it does not include profanity, 
it absolutely includes ALL expressions she hears from us. And I mean 
ALL 
expressions. So I suppose we would not want her watching a movie 
where she hears profanity in every sentence, but that is because she 
is not even THREE years old yet. In a few years the situation would 
be totally different.

 But when kids enter their early teen years, my position would be to 
watch with them, to talk with them, because I think that it is much 
better they talk about it with me rather than they see it somewhere 
else and just accomodated in their daily living.

I do not believe that by not allowing them to watch or read something 
I 
can shelter them from it permanently.

JMO.