Ilkley Moor Murder Case (Was Re: "The Noughties"?)

Goddlefrood gav_fiji at yahoo.com
Thu Feb 28 23:03:53 UTC 2008


> > Carol :
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> > "the Noughties," an expression I've never encountered before.

> > montims:
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> > My two pennorth: Noughty IS a homonym of naughty, which is 
> > the punning aspect of it, but it is pronounced norty in both 
> > cases 

> Geoff:
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> "Nowt" would be pronounced to rhyme with"out" - according to my 
> father, who was a Yorkshireman.

> And what about the traditional Yorkshire song "On Ilkla' Moor 
> baht 'at" - which for the benefit of totally flummoxed non-Brit 
> group members translates as "On Ilkley Moor without a hat".

Goddlefrood:

We've thus left the Naughty Nineties and presumably entered the 
Nothing Noughties, they've been quite uneventful so far ;-)

I agree with momtims that both naughty and noughty - not that 
noughty is really a word - would be pronounced norty more or 
less. How James Nauchtie pronounces his name I'll leave for 
your imagination.

Wasn't it the Hovis ads that claimed that there was nowt taken 
out of their (bread?) products at one time? Owt is also a synonym 
for nowt in Yorkshire, btw.

The Ilkley moor song is about a famous murder that was unusual 
because the murderer was not wearing a hat. This fact was so 
remarkable for the time (the lack of headwear), that the song 
came about. This has been one of the probably quite useless 
pieces of trivia I've picked up in my life and I now pass it 
on.

Goddlefrood, whose parents are both Yorkshire through and through.






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