coercion

[susanmcgee48176]

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Carol" <justcarol67 at ...> 
wrote:
>
> Susan:
> > Well, I guess that says it all. YOUR culture is dominant, so 
never 
> > mind the needs, desires, of the minority.
> > 
> > And, I don't like it.. I don't like dominance..of any kind.
> 
> Carol:
> 
> But where can you go to escape a dominant culture? Every country has
> one. I'd say the U.S. is a lot more tolerant of your religious views
> and your lifestyle than many predominantly Islamic countries would 
be.
> At least no one here has to wear a burkha (sp). And if you lived in,
> say, Japan, you'd be just as much in the minority as you are here.
> (We're all discriminated against in one way or another. I can't find
> clothes to fit me because the clothing manufacturers (at least for
> clothes within my budget) don't acknowledge the existence of
> five-feet-ten, 125-pound, late-middle-aged women. (BTW, Susan, if
> you're ancient, I must be teetering on the edge of the grave, or at
> least the old folks home. I was chatting with Ben Franklin the other
> day. . . ;-) ) 
> 
> Carol, fearing that dominance is a fact of life, just like laws,
> government, taxes, and bosses
>


Oh, goodness, Carol..do you really think that you can equate not 
being able to buy clothes to fit you with being thrown out of your 
family, fired from your job, beat up, murdered, and called names...
(which happens to lesbian, gay, bisexual and trans gendered people)

I guess you are confusing being the Majority with being Dominant...

In the United States, I THOUGHT we had the moral ideal that the 
minority rights would be protected..am I wrong?

In terms of toleration of my "lifestyle"...I assume you mean my 
orientation, which is that I'm a lesbian....Lifestyle is the idea 
that I'm choosing a wild, romantic sex filled life...well, that would 
be nice..but like most parents...I've chosen a humdrum, mostly 
dealing with kids, not going out and partying life...that's what I've 
CHOSEN! I didn't CHOOSE to fall in love with my amazing partner...who 
happens to be a woman..that just happened...just as I imagine you 
fell in love with your spouse...choice involved..

In terms of tolerance, there are many countries that are more 
tolerant of lesbian orientation...

Full marriage for same gender couples is presently available to same-
sex couples in seven jurisdictions. The Netherlands was the first 
country to allow same-sex marriage in 2001. Same-sex marriages are 
also recognized in Belgium, Canada, South Africa, Spain, and the U.S. 
state of Massachusetts.

And in many countries, especialy the Scandanvian ones..there is 
tremendous tolerance of non-christian religion...and in fact, many of 
the cathedrals in Europe have dwindling numbers of worshippers 
there...
hence, much more tolerance of non-christians than here in the U.S.

Susan