HP & DH Movie
sistermagpie
sistermagpie at earthlink.net
Wed Jan 16 20:35:35 UTC 2008
> Carol responds:
>
> The trouble with strikes, IMO, is that they hurt the very people
who
> are asking for "peanuts," depriving them and their families of
needed
> income, customers of needed services (in the case of teacher's
> strikes, depriving students of an education if the strike is
> extended), and, in the case of the writers' strike, extending to
> people in related industries. All for the sake of a complicated,
> Internet-related problem that, IMO, ought to be resolved without a
> strike. The writers are not helping themselves or anyone else by
> striking because they can't earn an income when they're on the
picket
> line, and they can't even write at home, as I understand it,
without
> violating their union contract.
Magpie:
But the solution to that is that they shouldn't strike, so should
just cave in to the people who are witholding the money for
themselves anyway, and that hurts everyone in the long run as well.
The *are* helping themselves and others with the strike. They're
striking for payment from the things they create.
How is the Internet (and other) problem going to be resolved without
a strike? The owners have their own solution--pretend they're not
making any money off these peoples' work on the Internet when they
are and write contracts where they keep the profits for themselves.
Why is that a good idea?
Carol:
> Surely, a writer's rights include the right to write. That's what
they
> do. That's how they earn their living. And, regardless of the
validity
> of their claim to the use of their work in new, technologically
> related ways, that sort of complication seems to me to be a problem
> for lawmakers, not producers, to resolve.
Magpie:
But obviously it isn't a problem for lawmakers--I'm not sure why it
would be. They're working out the profits for sale of their work.
Why would there be laws about that rather than the writer (or
director or actor etc.) working out what they are going to be paid
for the stuff they create and how it's used in their contract? What
would a law really have to do with it?
Carol:
> As for the idea expressed by Kemper that failing to honor the
strike
> is "treachery," I think that word is more than a bit strong,
> especially if they have no other means of earning a living. (Ever
try
> to live on unemployment benefits? Are strikers even entitled to
them?)
> If the strike keeps up, the phrase "starving writer" might be
> something more than a cliche.
Magpie:
It already is more than a cliche--most writers make very little
money:-) It's probably one profession where people have gone without
steady paychecks.
Actually, I wonder if there aren't a lot of people who might get
some good writing done during the strike and just sell it later.
Nothing's stopping them from that kind of writing that they might
one day make a lot of money from.
> Carol, more concerned about the writers' right to eat and pay their
> bills and put their kids through college than about their rights to
> subsidies that would only marginally increase their income
Magpie:
I'm not so sure it's as marginal as you're describing it here. It
just seems like a short-sighted way of looking at it--basically
saying that they shouldn't ever decide to fight for what they
consider fair pay for their work because it sounds bad for their
finances now. The way you describe it always sounds like they're
essentially starving themselves to death because they're too greedy
to let other people take most of the profits made from stuff they've
created.
-m
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