[HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: HP & DH Movie
OctobersChild48 at aol.com
OctobersChild48 at aol.com
Thu Jan 17 07:52:50 UTC 2008
In a message dated 1/16/2008 2:13:39 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
justcarol67 at yahoo.com writes:
The trouble with strikes, IMO, is that they hurt the very people who
are asking for "peanuts," depriving them and their families of needed
income, customers of needed services (in the case of teacher's
strikes, depriving students of an education if the strike is
extended), and, in the case of the writers' strike, extending to
people in related industries. All for the sake of a complicated,
Internet-related problem that, IMO, ought to be resolved without a
strike. The writers are not helping themselves or anyone else by
striking because they can't earn an income when they're on the picket
line, and they can't even write at home, as I understand it, without
violating their union contract.
Surely, a writer's rights include the right to write. That's what they
do. That's how they earn their living. And, regardless of the validity
of their claim to the use of their work <snip>
Sandy responds:
You don't seem to understand that it can't be resolved without a strike. If
it could be the writers would not be striking. And the writers most certainly
*are* helping themselves. I see that I presented it wrong by using the
terminology that they are asking for peanuts. Yes, they have a right to write, but
they also have the right to be fairly compensated for it. The claim to the
use of their work is as valid as any I know. They are being ripped off and
they have a right to take a stance against that. They are making the sacrifice
of not working now to better secure their future. As I said in a previous
post, a strike catches nobody by surprise - you do have time to prepare for it.
And you do get strike pay. And when you are on strike you do not walk the
picket line 24/7. It is there 24/7 but the workers only walk it several hours a
day and then a new shift takes over. This affords the strikers the
opportunity to have a temporary job until the dispute is settled. No, they can't do
their normal jobs, but they can flip burgers or wait tables or whatever. Many of
us where I work already had temporary jobs lined up this past Fall when our
strike was pending.
Carol:
As for the idea expressed by Kemper that failing to honor the strike
is "treachery," I think that word is more than a bit strong,
especially if they have no other means of earning a living. (Ever try
to live on unemployment benefits? Are strikers even entitled to them?)
Sandy:
I don't consider the word strong at all. The union and striking is all about
solidarity. Everyone working towards the common goal. I have lived on
unemployment, and no, strikers are not entitled to it, but I was better off with
the unemployment than nothing at all, just like the strikers are better off
with strike pay than nothing at all. Do you think these people *want* to be on
strike? I can assure you that they don't. But they have been backed into a
place where it is their only option. Why is that so hard for you to understand?
It is up to the union members as to how long they are willing to strike. They
can vote to accept what is being offered at any time. The union keeps them
updated and allows them that opportunity. Whatever the sacrifices they are
currently making it must be worth it to them to stand strong and not back down.
It is the only tool they have.
Sandy
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