Dialects & Accents (Was Re: Subject-Verb agreement with compound subjects)

[potioncat]

> Carol responds:
 I ended up with a "rootbeer cocola." I also discovered that
> "bobacue" was "poke." No barbecued chicken or beef on the menu. And
> then there's Southern food that doesn't even exist in other regions,
> such as grits and "chitlins."

Potioncat:
What a stroll down memory lane! Yep, I remember when coca-cola meant 
any soda pop (sort of like Kleenex for any tissue) Of course, I 
wouldn't have had any idea at that time what soda pop was.

Poke for barbie-Q must be strictly NC. In SC a poke was a bag.


>Carol: 
> 'Scuse me. I need to borra some fatback from a neighbor so we all 
can
> have some chitlins and punkin' pah. (Sorry, Potioncat. I'm probably
> remembering it all inaccurately. I do clearly remember, though, my
> bank manager boss, Miz (Mrs.) Page, informing me that "we all lives
> within hollerin'distance of the old homeplace."

Potioncat:
Fatback! Haven't had it in years. My arteries couldn't take it now, 
nor my taste buds. Just for laughs I pointed it out to my kids the 
last time we were in a SC grocery store. Good thing the rest rooms 
were nearby.

Chitlins--never had, nor tripe (the fancier version)

pumpkin pie-- I make that several times every fall.

My aunts referred to the homeplace all the time. No mansion, mind 
you. Something of a rural version of Spinners End. My grandparents 
were tennant farmers prior to WWII, but I don't know the difference 
between that and share croppers. 
> 

Carol:
> BTW, logic is the basis of many of the rules of grammar that CJ 
finds
> so objectionable. For example, in math(s), two negatives make a
> positive, so, logically, a double negative is a positive: "I don't
> want none" means "I want some." Of course, the restriction on double
> negatives deprives us of such gems as "Nor this is not my nose,
> neither," one of my favorite Shakespearean lines.

Potioncat:
Erm...I don't think so. If I said, "No, thank you ma'am, I don't want 
none," It would mean I did not want any.

Of course, any Southern hostess worth her salt would dish out another 
serving or two anyway.


Double negatives may translate differently out west or up north.

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