Historical "safe rooms" Was: Science question about underground survival.

[potioncat]

> Carol responds:
> 
> All of which reminds me of Francis, Viscount Lovell. 
snip
 Many years later, in 1708, the
> skeleton of a man was found in a secret room at Minster Lovell.
> Apparently, Francis, twice declared a traitor by Henry VII (whom he
> obviously had no desire to serve), starved to death in his own
> basement "safe room" hiding from "the Tydder" (Tudor)!

Potioncat:
I rather like the historical-fiction!Lovell. I thought drowning in 
his armor in a river was bad enough. Are they sure the skeleton was 
Lovell's? Is there connection between Francis and the Lovell 
telescope? (No, I don't think he designed it.)



> 
> Carol, who expected the Malfoys' secret room to be a "safe room" to
> hide from the Aurors in, rather safer than Francis Lovell's
>
Potioncat:
I wouldn't have thought it would be so close to the main floor that 
you could hear noises from it. 

Potioncat, wearing a pink rose, because she has been influenced by 
Carol and now can't decide beteen York or Lancaster--and feels that 
puts her into the same mix as some rather unsavory historical 
characters.