Grammar police (thee/thou) Was: JK Rowling pens a Harry Potter prequel
Carol
justcarol67 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 9 02:31:53 UTC 2008
[Lady Carol of the Hogwarts Editorial Staff wrote:
> | In the name of the grammar police, I hope you'll forgive me for
pointing out that it's "didst thou" ("thee" is objective case; "thou"
is nominative case).
>
> [Lee]:
> Ah--then we'll also have to correct Frances Hodgson Burnett for her
use of "thee" in _The_Secret_Garden. In her refs to Yorkshire speech,
she has characters saying things , "Why can thee not..." or "how did
thee find..." (don't ask me for chapter and page, please!) :-)
Carol:
Ah. That's a different matter--Yorkshire dialect rather than
Shakespearean English (or the English of the King James Bible).
Apparently, like some Quakers (others retained both "thee" and
"thou"), the people of Yorkshire clung to "thee" as the singular form
of "you" while discarding "thou." It's supposed to indicate intimacy
(like "you familiar" in other languages) or, in the case of the
Quakers, equality. The nominative (subjective) plural, "ye," was also
discarded in those dialects, IIRC.
Lee:
> Glad you've got your computer back up and running. I just had a
hellacious time recovering my inbox after deleting its entire
contents. I've only lost 4 days worth of personal mail, one piece of
which broke my heart. But, considering, it could have been much more
worserer!
Carol:
I know what you mean. I've lost more than a year's worth of e-mail on
at teast two occasions. Sometimes, computers are more trouble than
they're worth, and yet I'm lost without mine. I went back to reading
to entertain myself, plus a bit of editing by hand on pages I printed
out before I took in the computer, but actually handwrite a letter?
I've probably forgotten how!
Lee:
(Nyah-Nyah to the grammar police.) :-)
Carol:
Detention for you for such heresy! You will write "I will not
nyah-nyah the grammar police" one hundred times, to be turned in to me
at this time tomorrow. No excuses. :-P!!
Carol, who is, of course, just joking about the lines
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