Grammatical case and tangents / the new ficlet
Catlady (Rita Prince Winston)
catlady at wicca.net
Sat Jun 14 06:19:01 UTC 2008
Carol quoted in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/36866>:
<< "In Early Modern English, there were two second-person personal
pronouns: thou, the informal singular pronoun, and ye, which was both
the plural pronoun and the formal singular pronoun (snip) Like other
personal pronouns, thou and ye had different forms depending on their
grammatical case; specifically, objective form of thou was thee, its
possessive forms were thy and thine, and its reflexive or emphatic
form was thyself <snip>" >>
I, thou, ye. Me, thee, you.
I think it would be more logical, or at least rhyme better, if it were
"Me, thee, ye" and "I, thou, you". Especially if "thou" and "you"
rhymed in sound as well as in spelling.
Geoff quoted in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/36868>:
<< could arguably be classified in the oblique case instead. >>
Oblique case? Is there also a tangential case?
Carol quoted in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/36870>:
<< in Middle English you could only be the second-person plural
objective pronoun. >>
Can't I be the past imperfect instead?
Carol wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/36907>:
<< calling an Apatasaurus a Brontosaurus >>
The common name of Felis domesticus is housecat; the common name of
Felis spp. is cat, and the common name of Apatasaurus spp. is
brontosaurus. Sometimes I wonder why people talking about dinosaurs or
garden plants are so content to call them by just the genus, when they
wouldn't be happy to call both a horse and a zebra an Equus.
Alla wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/36880>:
<< Heee, seriously though did you think that it were DE or not? Three
men, I mean? Because since it was the middle of the war, I had no
doubt in my mind. But I guess it is opened to interpretation. >>
This is a forbidden 'I agree' post.
Kemper wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/36915>:
<< The DEs weren't after the Muggles, they were after the cock-y teens. >>
My impression while I read it was that the DEs were after some witch
or wizard who lived up that alley, and the cocky teens were there to
ambush the DEs and save the person whom they were after. They should
have captured the DEs and brought them to be arrested instead of just
leaving them.
Of course, my impression may have been biased by the experience that I
wrote a fanfic some years ago in which all four boys plus Lily
ambushed the DEs who were coming to kill a wizarding family. In MY
fic, they captured all the bad guys (except Lucius Malfoy got away
with singed hair) and they noticed that one of the bad guys was really
a good guy under Imperius, so they lifted the spell off him and sent
him to Hogwarts to get private lessons in DADA from Sukey Longbottom
(Augusta's daughter, but at the time I didn't know her name was Augusta).
In both cases, they were sent to intercept the planned attack because
one of Dumbledore's spies had warned Dumbledore of the plan.
Steve bboyminn wrote in
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/36927>:
<< I'm wondering if, and my first impression was, that the T-shirts
had the Golden Snitch on it. The police office saw something golden
with wings and could only assume it was a bird. >>
I think this is an utterly brilliant suggestion, and quite possibly
correct. (Zara, I admired your before and after suggestion, too.)
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