UK School vs Generic USA School ... (...Re: Question for British ...)

[Steve]

---  "Carol" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> bboyminn wrote:
> <snip>
> > A parallel path to that would be either a state four year 
> college or university, with state colleges being more minor 
> institutions of higher learning and therefore cheaper, and 
> state university meaning THE State University, which is a 
> larger, more prominent, prestigious, and expensive school, 
> or a private college or university. Private colleges and 
> universities are usually considered the best and the most
> expensive. <snip>
> 
> Carol responds:
> I don't know about other states, but Arizona has three state
> universities (Arizona State University, the University of 
> Arizona, and Northern Arizona University) and New Mexico has 
> two (New Mexico State University and the University of New 
> Mexico).

bboyminn:

I'm not sure if Minnesota is odd or typical, but we have 
several state colleges/universities and one University of
Minnesota with several campuses.

As an example the college I went to was Mankato State University.
The school was originally 'Mankato State Teachers College', then
transformed into Mankato State College, then Mankato State
University, and is now Minnesota State University - Mankato. But
it is now and always has been a 'state' university, and NOT
the university of the state.

Other 'state' universities include Bemiji State (in the north),
Minnesota State-Moorhead (in the west), St. Cloud State (just
west of Minneapolis), Southwest Minnesota State (in the South
west), Minnesota State-Mankato (in the south), Winona State
(in the south east), and Metropolitan State with two campuses
in the Twin Cities (one in each). Note it is more prestigious
to have 'Minnesota' in the name of your school, so 'Minnesota
State-Mankato' is better than 'St. Cloud State' or 'Bemiji
State'.

On the other hand THE state university (University of 
Minnesota) is located in the Twin Cities with the main campus 
in Minneapolis and the primarily agricultural and food science
school in St. Paul. Additional campuses are found in Duluth, 
Morris, Crookston, and Rochester with the addition of a couple
other specialized extension campuses in a other locations.

This is the best university in Minnesota to graduate from,
the hardest to get into, and the most expensive. In addition
to the standard academic subjects, they also have medical,
dental, mortuary science, and law school as well as the 
University of Minnesota Hospital.

> 
> Steve:
> > Now days modern USA high schools have AP or Advanced 
> > Placement classes where high school level students can go 
> > to the local college as part of their high school education.
> > ...
> 
> Carol responds:
> The only AP classes I'm familiar with (..) are the AP
> English classes, which do not substitute for freshman composition
> although many students who took AP English end up in English 103,
> which is the Honors equivalent of English 101. ...
> 

bboyminn;

Sorry, I was wrong about that, but you have to understand that
my own high school and college career would be classified as
ancient history today.

The thing I was referring to is apparently called 'PSEO' or
'Post-Secondary Enrollment Options Program' in which 'high 
school juniors and seniors to enroll in college courses. 
Students may enroll for one or more classes, but total 
enrollment in high school and college may only be up to full-
time. Credits earned will apply toward high school credits and
class standing and toward graduation. Tuition, fees and 
required textbooks are provided at no cost to the student. 
College credits will transfer to all but a few selective 
colleges.'

> Carol:
>
> ... Nowadays, who knows? I'm glad I'm not a kid--or the parent
> of a teenager facing today's tuition costs combined with 
> inflation and what looks like a recession.
> 
> Carol, ...

bboyminn:

This is one of the things that makes college classes while in
high school so appealing to students; the state picks up the
tab for everything except books and supplies.

I don't know about other parts of the country but college 
tuition has been rising astronomically faster than the rate
of inflation. In my opinion, at an unconscionable rate. 

Just clearing a few things up.

steve/bluewizard