(second try) re: this election, and the nature of evil

[susanmcgee48176]

> Tonks wrote in
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/37971>:
> 
> << Do the ends justify the means, as Saul Alinsky teaches? His 
methods
> include humiliating the opposition >>
> 
> I don't believe that Saul Alinsky advised murdering the opposition's
> most popular leaders, nor hiring young men with AK-47s to hang 
around
> polling places shooting everyone who comes near, nor gathering a 
small
> group of loyal colonels to, on signal, turn against their generals 
and
> their civilian government, and march their loyal soldiers on the
> capitol, the same way they learned to conquer enemy capitols, and 
then
> install their coup leader as President for Life and send out teams 
to
> kill a few thousand people on a list of people who might resist the
> new regime.
> 
>

No, he didn't.

But as a community organizer, who teaches community organizing at the 
college level, Saul Alinsky DID believe in humiliating his 
opponents...

And, Tonks, you DO know that Sen. Clinton was a pupil of Mr. Alinsky? 

His model of community organizing was discredited by feminists who 
don't believe in humiliating people, but came back into vogue 
recently.

Personally, I don't like that model, I don't buy it, and I don't use 
it. I teach it in class, so that students can look at it critically.
If you'd like to look at my powerpoints on Alinsky, please email me 
off list.

It's part of the model that Senator Obama eschews...he believes in 
civility, kindness and compassion..and it's one of the reasons I'm 
very impressed with him.

Susan