[HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Lord Voldemort, the nature of evil, and politics

[Cabal]

Wow three complete mistruths in one post. With all that you should be
supporting Republicans!

First, you have to be registered to vote in your state to participate in a
caucus or primary, so if you live out of state you can't register and you
cannot participate. So even if they did bus people in from out of state, it
wouldn't have mattered, and since it's just a rumor and not true, it doesn't
matter.

Second, he never gave Hillary the finger, he scratched his check, clearly
with two fingers extended. Watch for real next time you see the clip, and
see not what you want to see, but the truth.

Third, the "pig with lipstick" analogy is a common one in many areas of the
country, it was one that McCain used to describe Clinton's policies. It had
nothing to do with Sarah Palin (a pig in lipstick she may be IMO) and like
you said, you then have to find a way to equate the "fish in newspaper"
comment as well, and you can't. It's just people grasping at straws,
desperate and pathetic to try to link the opposition to anything they can.
You forgot the Obama's a Terrorist and a "Socialist."

For your own sake, see reality or at least get over the delusion.

I really wish these topics hadn't come up here.

md

-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tonks
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 2:25 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Lord Voldemort, the nature of evil, and
politics

Tonks:
Because, among other things, in the primary season, his people 
cheated in the caucuses by busing people in from Chicago to register 
and vote in at least 2 states. This would be fraud if the state ran 
a Primary election, but the *party* runs the caucuses... it is like 
cheating your sister. Even thieves have a code of honor, but there 
does not appear to be any within his campaign. Frankly I don't care 
what we do to the other party, but we need to have some ethics 
within our own!

I wasn't too keen on the way that Obama jokes about the woman 
running against him. He gave Hillary the finger. See video. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoOFp-RDpvM&feature=related
And he called Sarah a pig with lipstick, and don't tell me that was 
something else. I know what it was and so did the people at his 
rally, they enjoyed the joke. And if that isn't a soft form 
of "humiliating you opponent" then I don't know what is. (I thought 
the 'fish' comment was aimed at both Palin and McCain, but I know 
others don't take the interpretation that far.)  Also it was a slap 
in the face to Hillary when he chose the woman that she fired to be 
the VP's secretary before we knew who that would be. Little things 
add up after awhile. Just you wait and see...  He has a pattern of 
joking about women... the Republicans are all up in arms about his 
saying he didn't do a Nancy Reagan thing and try to channel Ronald. 
I think he hadn't slept in a few days when he said that, but 
still... just watch what he does and says and tell me again in 6 
months that you don't think he is a sexist.

Susan said: 
> 
> Palin said he was "palling around with terrorists."

Tonk:
"Palling around with" is not the same as being one. So again, I say 
that she and the McCain campaign never called Obama a terrorist. It 
only meant to show that Obama is open to the idea of the far left 
wing folks in Chicago. 


Susan said: 
> Now, I suggest you google the New York Times article on Jeff Ayers.
> 
> First, the Weather Underground blew up countless buildings, but 
after the townhouse bombing renounced actions against individuals.
> 
> Second, Obama knew Jeff Ayres LONG AFTER HE WAS IN THE WEATHER 
> UNDEGROUND, when Jeff was an Education professor...it was a casual 
> business relationship....Obama was incredibly clear that he did 
not support in any possible way Jeff's actions.....
>
 
Tonks:
I lived during that time and remember it. Who is Jeff? All I know is 
William. They were here in Michigan. Ann Arbor. Bernadette Dhorn, 
who later became his wife, was far worse than him. Some say that 
Michelle is good friends with her since they once worked together, 
but I don't know about that, could just be more of those ugly 
election lies. I do know the connection between Obama and Ayers was 
not as casual as Obama wants us to believe. The concern about the 
connection is not about bombs, it is about political philosophy. All 
Obama really had to say was "yes when I was younger I was smitten by 
Marxist ideas, but I have grown since then and will govern from the 
center." But for some reason he didn't say that, and it gave fuel to 
the other side to point out that he seems to be hiding something 
there. 


Susan said:
 Did you support Palin because she was a woman? That's 
> an insult to me, since Palin was against every possible right for 
> women and was obviously unqualified to be president of the United 
> States.

Tonks:
She came with the package. I liked that she was a member of the NRA. 
I didn't like the rest, but I don't think she is as stupid as my 
party made her out to be, that is just politics again. And you have 
to understand that my support of the 'Democrats for McCain' was not 
a vote for McCain or the Republican party, it was a vote to stop  
Obama and thereby force change within the party. 

---
But still no one is discussing the nature of evil. I am just going 
to conclude that Voldemort rules in Politics and half the people in 
DC are Death Eaters of one form or another. Reminds me of a time 
when I told someone "do whatever it takes" and to my horror they 
did. That is when I learned the hard way that some people have no 
boundaries they will not cross. Maybe I will just read the book 'how 
to swim with the sharks' and eat chocolate. Can't drink.. gives me a 
migraine.

Tonks_op


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