[HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Protest the passage of Prop 8

[Cabal]

First of all, you ignored my entire post, thanks for responding without
reading.

My point was not to say Homosexual's where atheist, but to state that many
of us, regardless of religion, do not get married by or in a church.

THE LEGAL RIGHT TO MARRY IS NOT A LEGAL RIGHT TO GET MARRIED IN A CHURCH I
STATED THIS CLEARLY PLS READ NEXT TIME. Thank you.

I also state why one would get married other than religion:

BECAUSE BEING MARRIED MAKES YOU A FAMILY MEMBER TO YOUR SPOUSE.

As I stated prior:" As for the state being involved, well that's about legal
rights. After all, family has rights to access when a member is sick, to
monies when a member is incapacitated, to inheritance when someone dies. You
need marriage to become a legal family member, to be recognized as a spouse
for health insurance, to file joint tax returns, to take a mortgage out, to
adopt a child (where legal) to be allowed in a trauma room or ICU in an
emergency, to have custody of children birthed or fathered by the other
partner. 

It's about the legal rights of family."

Tonks:
Also same sex marriage has the effect of 'normalizing' a union that will
cause children to become confused. This is what concerns me the most. Young
child go though a phase, which most of you know, where they form thier
idenity as male or female and their sexual orientation. When it becomes
'normal' in society to marry either the opposite or the same sex, I think
that children will become confused and it is possible for this to result in
more homosexuality than we currently have, which in turn means a lower birth
rate and less citizens for the state.


Marc:
That is a load, sorry, of s**t.

Children of homosexuals have been interviewed, inspected, studied and put
under a microscope. 

THEY DO JUST AS WELL AS EVERY OTHER CHILD AND ARE NEVER CONFUSED.

You live in a world of hearsay and rumor, misinformation and lies -- sorry,
but that's what you have shown here.

How dare you say any person is less than you. How dare you.

It is a scientific fact that homosexuals are born that way, they cannot be
created, they are not made, they do not learn it and they never "choose" it.

Please take your rampant homophobia somewhere else.

I've heard enough hate from you, I'll not respond to your hate and
intolerance anymore.

md


-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tonks
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2008 6:46 PM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Protest the passage of Prop 8

Tonks:
Are you saying that 99.9% of Homosexuals are Atheist? I don't think so. 
Many are members of a religion and would want to be married in that 
religion. I do not have a problem with a church wedding for 
homesexuals. I do have a problem with a civil marriage.

Why would you, if you are not religion and therefor not concerned with, 
as they say, 'living in sin', even feel that it was necessary to 
be 'married' by the state? (this might be a trick question)