re Charisma

[susanmcgee48176]

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince 
Winston)" <catlady at ...> wrote:
>
> Carol wrote in
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/37846>:
> 
> << (Interestingly, "charisma" is a relatively late borrowing, first
> used in English in 1930. I'm not sure how the concept was expressed
> before that time. "Charm," maybe?) >>
> 
> Maybe 'prestige'.
> <http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=prestigious> says 
> << 1546, "practicing illusion or magic, deceptive," from L.
> præstigious "full of tricks," from præstigiæ "juggler's tricks,"
> probably altered by dissimilation from præstringere "to blind,
> blindfold, dazzle," from præ- "before" + stringere "to tie or bind"
> (see strain (v.)). Prestige is from 1656, from Fr. prestige "an
> illusion" (16c.). These words were derogatory until 19c.; prestige 
in
> the sense of "dazzling influence" was first applied 1815, to 
Napoleon.
> Prestigious with this sense is attested from 1913. >>
> 
> I think << prestige in the sense of "dazzling influence" was first
> applied 1815, to Napoleon >> might be what we call charisma?
> 
> Tonks wrote in
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/37848>:
> 
> << What do other people think Charisma is? What do you see in a 
person
> that has it? Have you even knowm a woman who has it? What does that
> look like in a woman? >>
> 
> I don't know what charisma exactly is, but my friend scowls when
> people think it means sex appeal or likeability. She says it means
> that you reflectively want that person (the one who has charisma) to
> be your leader.
> 
> Does Oprah have charisma?
>


Oh, how interesting...I distinctly remember back in college (medieval 
times) I took a course on the Old Testament, and the professor talked 
about charisma there, with the origins of chrism, the sacred oil..the 
anointed one...usually I remember part of this stuff, if I have time, 
I'll go look it up...

Personally, I think it usually involves sex appeal...but it's a 
magnetic or chemical attraction....isn't it? I'd suggest Lord 
Voldemort had it.....hmmmmm who else in HP?