America (The Book) was: list of books ...

[kempermentor]

> Kemper earlier:
> But there are robes you can use to cover them up.  
> As for 'work of art', if a crucifix in piss is considered art, then 
> so can photos(c)hop.  Also, none of the male justices are at 12 o'clock.
>  And besides... what self-respecting minor would be interested in
> seeing the happy parts of old-people unless it's for a chuckle?  

> md:
> First of all, I own and love the book.
> Second, I barely censor anything for my own kids.
> Third, I find all instances of Christ on a cross disgusting, first
because I don't believe in Christ as anything more than a man, and
second because displaying a tortured, dying person in agony is
sadistic.(with the exception of my "tortured souls" figures, but they
don't hang over my fireplace, and I never pray to them).
> Forth, I don't think Jon Stuart, the author, considers that photo
art, and since he owns it, it's his call.
> Finally, I was only speaking to the legality, Hustler contains humor
and satire and it's not distributed to minors.

Kemper now:
Fifty-seventh, I thought you were jesting about the legal issue.  

Four hundred twentieth (werd), I think calling people who have
crucifixes 'sadistic' is a bit harsh.  Who cares what they have or who
they pray to, it's their actions and interactions that matter.  I know
not all Christian are good people, but that could be said with any
group of people from atheists to zen Buddhists. 

twelfth (what an odd combination of consonants), the Wasilla library
thought no there was no legal issue


> md:
> I don't think photo-shops of naked old people for the purpose of
satire is the same as censoring words and ideas. 

Kemper now:
I don't know... people were heated at Swift's 'Modest Proposal'. 
People were (some maybe still are) looking to ban Twain's 'Huckleberry
Finn.'  Both are satirical works.  Why should a photo get special
consideration over words and ideas?  


> md:
> I know my 6 and 9 year old girls are ready for Harry Potter, but not
photos of old, naked men. They would just find it confusing as to why
people would showcase such a thing.

Kemper now:
Well, at 6 and 9 you could have a conversation about it.  But I'm sure
they would never see the naked old men (and women)... then again,
maybe they already have, it is in the house.  When I was 9, I went
through stuff of the adults in my life, more out of curiosity than
anything.  I found stuff and never told them.  I'm sure the Library
didn't code 'America: The Book' into the children's section.  It's
prolly in the Dewey system somewhere.

> md:
> Maybe if the school glued the robes on before putting the book out! 

Kemper now:
That's so hilarious, and it would be so awesome! :)