"Nice and" one more time.
Geoff Bannister
gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk
Fri Jan 9 07:48:56 UTC 2009
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "sistermagpie" <sistermagpie at ...> wrote:
>
> Zanooda:
> > One last question about "nice and": we can use it to characterize
> > *only* inanimate objects/nouns, right? It wouldn't work to describe
> > people, would it? If a girl is "nice and pretty", it means that she is
> > pretty and she is *also* nice, not that she is
> > pleasantly/agreeably/perfectly (and whatever else it was :-)) pretty,
> > right :-)?
>
> Magpie:
> Nope, you can also use the expression to refer to humans. You probably
> wouldn't say "nice and pretty" about a girl, but you might use it with
> a more specific adjective. For instance, somebody could say about a
> girl: "Just the way I like them--nice and curvy" or "nice and rich."
> But "nice and [whatever]" would have the same meaning when applied to a
> person. (It sounds a bit sleazy in those cases, though!)
>
> Although, just to make things confusing, you absolutely could say the
> exact same terms without meaning the expression. You could say "She is
> nice and pretty" meaning that she is both pretty and a pleasant/nice
> person." But if you were saying that you would probably instinctively
> say "pretty and nice" instead of "nice and pretty" so it wouldn't sound
> like the expression.
Geoff:
Which pretty well sums it up.
:-)
Turning for a moment to teabags, we use Tetley or Typhoo usually.
Interesting that some names seem to have come up on both sides of
the Atlantic.
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