Redemption of Anakin and other redemption stories (moved from Main)

[Carol]

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "kempermentor" <kempermentor at ...> wrote:
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> > Kemper now:
> > Exactly.  Could Anakin have without Luke right there in his face?  Could he have gone against the Emperor alone?  No. He was saved by Luke's nigh sacrifice.
> > 
> > Going back to Avatar... Zuko is alone when he faces the Fire Lord.  He is not the boy he was; he is redeemed.
> 
> Kemper nower:
> I forgot to talk about Snape.  While Snape worked against Voldemort, he did not face him even as he was dieing.
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> Kemper
>
Carol responds:

I'm not sure what you mean here. He certainly faced Voldemort at the end and was killed by him, never revealing why he wanted to see Harry or that Draco was the master of the Elder Wand. He couldn't kill Voldemort himself (though we see him raise his wand as if for a moment he's tempted to try). In Snape's case, redemption has nothing to do with killing the enemy. However, he's certainly the man he was when he joined the Death Eaters.

Avatar--I have no idea, not having watched it. (It's a bit spoiled for me now. <smile>) 

Darth Vader, I agree, is not exactly redeemed, just forgiven. He just has too much to atone for and he shows no remorse for his evil deeds, only a regret for (I think?) having made the wrong choice and rejected his son. (No regrets for rejecting his daughter that I recall, but it's been about twenty years since I saw that film, so I could be remembering it incorrectly.

Carol, wondering what anyone thinks about Sidney Carton and trying to think of a good redemption story that we haven't mentioned