From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  1 01:37:49 2009
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 01:37:49 -0000
Subject: Writing - Good & Bad - Edward Cullen?
In-Reply-To: <hcg795+and9@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hciopd+robh@eGroups.com>

zanooda:
> > 
> > I'm beginning Jane Austen at the moment, because I was always a little embarrassed that I haven't read any of her books. Only I don't know where to start - "Pride and Prejudice", maybe?
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Hey at least you know who Jane Austen is, I will never forget how some of my friends whom I made here in New York had no idea. Oy.
> 
> Yes, I highly recommend starting with Pride and Prejudice :-)

Carol responds:
I'd recommend starting with P&P, too, with one caveat--it's the best of the Austen books, and you might find the others disappointing. "Emma" is also good, if you can get past Emma's manipulativeness and egotism, and so is "sense and Sensibility," which might be better to start with because if you like it, you'll probably like P&P even better. The other three ("Mansfield Park," Persuasion," and "Northanger Abbey" are, IMO, largely forgettable. The best that can be said of "Northanger Abbey" (essentially a spoof of Gothic novels but not really funny) is that it's short.

Just my view. Alla and others may disagree.

Carol, who thinks that everyone should read "Pride and Prejudice," which is a classic and rightly so




From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Nov  1 18:43:16 2009
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From zanooda2 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  1 19:00:42 2009
From: zanooda2 at yahoo.com (zanooda2)
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 19:00:42 -0000
Subject: Writing - Good & Bad - Edward Cullen?
In-Reply-To: <hciopd+robh@eGroups.com>
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:

> I'd recommend starting with P&P, too, with one caveat--
> it's the best of the Austen books, and you might find the 
> others disappointing. 


zanooda:

Thanks, Carol :-). It is probably not very important with which one I start - it's not like I intend to read *all* of Austen's novels. I'll most likely just read these two, in whatever order :-). It's for educational purposes mostly (and a little bit of curiosity :-)). But thank you for the advice, everyone :-).





From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Nov  1 23:05:47 2009
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince)
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:05:47 -0000
Subject: The Original Butter Beer Recipe
In-Reply-To: <hc5b64+rbbu@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hcl48b+crlg@eGroups.com>

Geoff wrote in <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/40121>:
> 
> If [Warner Bros]'re going to lay claim to [all that list of real
> life foods], their legal eagles are going to be verrry busy.
> 
> Plus the fact a group of very angry people armed with tennis rackets 
> will be travelling from Wimbledon to do them over.
> :-)
>

Wimbledon? Tennis rackets?





From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Nov  1 23:10:18 2009
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince)
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:10:18 -0000
Subject: Writing - Good & Bad - Edward Cullen?
In-Reply-To: <hcbgaq+9rmc@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hcl4gq+hh2b@eGroups.com>

Steve bboyminn wrote in <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/40136>:
> 
> Sorry for running off on a tangent, but if I were 500 years
> old with the body of a 17 year old, I'm not sure I would
> hang around the small town high school. The first time was
> bad enough, I have no desire to repeat it over and over and
> over again for 500 years. 

High school wasn't too wonderful for me, either, but don't you think we would learn how to do high school and get kind of good at it from having so much practice? 




From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Nov  1 23:12:38 2009
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince)
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:12:38 -0000
Subject: Good story/bad writer: (Was: What a snob!)/SPOILER for Twilight and Dawn
In-Reply-To: <hcgjkc+f72j@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hcl4l6+7pbc@eGroups.com>

Zanooda wrote in <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/40162>:
> 
> Yeah, my mom and my stepdad had my half-brother when I was 15,
> and I was helping to take care of the baby a lot and doing other
> stuff around the house. I don't remember ever being a rebellious
> teenager :-). 

That sounds to me like a good reason TO BE a rebellious teenager.




From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk  Sun Nov  1 23:54:28 2009
From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff)
Date: Sun, 01 Nov 2009 23:54:28 -0000
Subject: The Original Butter Beer Recipe
In-Reply-To: <hcl48b+crlg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hcl73k+knu3@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince" <catlady at ...> wrote:
>
> Geoff wrote in <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/40121>:
> > 
> > If [Warner Bros]'re going to lay claim to [all that list of real
> > life foods], their legal eagles are going to be verrry busy.
> > 
> > Plus the fact a group of very angry people armed with tennis rackets 
> > will be travelling from Wimbledon to do them over.
> > :-)

Catlady: 
> Wimbledon? Tennis rackets?

Geoff:
Indeed yes. The visit will be to discuss strawberries.





From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  2 00:32:24 2009
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (bboyminn)
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 00:32:24 -0000
Subject: The Original Butter Beer Recipe
In-Reply-To: <hcl48b+crlg@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hcl9ao+atf7@eGroups.com>



---  "Catlady (Rita Prince" <catlady at ...> wrote:
>
> Geoff wrote in <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/40121>:
> > 
> > If [Warner Bros]'re going to lay claim to [all that list of real
> > life foods], their legal eagles are going to be verrry busy.
> > 
> > Plus the fact a group of very angry people armed with tennis rackets 
> > will be travelling from Wimbledon to do them over.
> > :-)
> >
> 
> Wimbledon? Tennis rackets?
>

bboyminn:

I think this is just Geoff having a bit of a joke. The recipe
for butter beer that I linked to is an old Tudor recipe. I'm
guessing, in his very British mind, Geoff has made an 
association between Tudor and Winbledon. And in his last post,
he has made a further connection between Tudor, Wimbledon, 
and strawberries. 

Though not being British, I'm not really sure what that 
association is.

Steve/bboyminn - more than willing to be corrected. 




From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Nov  2 06:53:08 2009
From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff)
Date: Mon, 02 Nov 2009 06:53:08 -0000
Subject: The Original Butter Beer Recipe
In-Reply-To: <hcl9ao+atf7@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hclvkk+a93v@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "bboyminn" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:

Geoff: 
> > > If [Warner Bros]'re going to lay claim to [all that list of real
> > > life foods], their legal eagles are going to be verrry busy.
> > > 
> > > Plus the fact a group of very angry people armed with tennis rackets 
> > > will be travelling from Wimbledon to do them over.
> > > :-)

Catlady:
> > Wimbledon? Tennis rackets?

bboyminn:
 > I think this is just Geoff having a bit of a joke. The recipe
> for butter beer that I linked to is an old Tudor recipe. I'm
> guessing, in his very British mind, Geoff has made an 
> association between Tudor and Winbledon. And in his last post,
> he has made a further connection between Tudor, Wimbledon, 
> and strawberries. 
> 
> Though not being British, I'm not really sure what that 
> association is.

Geoff:
The association is actually strawberries. Nothing to do 
with Tudor or Butterbeer, I'm not sure what your association 
between Tudor and Wimbledon is. A keen tennis fan - 
especially of the WimbledonOpen - would probably pick 
up on the link.

I was commenting on the idea that Warner Brothers might 
lay claim to real life foods. In the list at the first banquet, 
strawberries are mentioned.

One of the highlights of Wimbledon fortnight which is often 
the subject of comment in broadcast and reports is the 
provision of strawberries and cream (usually grumbling 
about their cost).

It came to mind because the school in which i taught for 
30+ years used to supply ballboys (and later ballgirls) to 
the tournament.











From elphabapotter at hotmail.com  Wed Nov  4 19:29:44 2009
From: elphabapotter at hotmail.com (elphabapotter)
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 19:29:44 -0000
Subject: HPEF Presents Episode 4 is here!
Message-ID: <hcskn8+a40g@eGroups.com>

Episode 4 of HPEF Presents "Musicals and MoMs" is here.

http://tinyurl.com/hpefpresents4

On this episode of HPEF Presents we have not one but TWO interviews jam packed with all things Infinitus.

First, Aziza interviews Darren Criss and Nick Lang from TeamStarKid, creators of A Very Potter Musical. TeamStarKid will be at Infinitus this July and they've got lots of surprises in store for us.

Second, Will joins Aziza to interview Jenn Clack - Minister of Magic for Infinitus and the "mom" of the staff. A must-hear interview for anyone looking for some pre-Infinitus squeeage!

*NOTE* Will MEANT to say Welcome to Episode 4. Our mistake!

If you have questions or comments about this episode or any other, feel free to email us at pr at infinitus2010.org or leave us a voicemail comment about your excitement for Infinitus and we just might put it on an upcoming episode! The number is (610) 523-0475. We'd love to hear from you!

Be sure to visit our website at www.infinitus2010.org. 




From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  4 21:18:27 2009
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (bboyminn)
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:18:27 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter gets Naked .... Really?
Message-ID: <hcsr33+ji4m@eGroups.com>

As you many have discovered by now, David Yates has made a 
comment in an interview indicating that Dan Radcliffe playing
Harry Potter will 'get naked' in one of the last Harry Potter
movies.

Though, there is one scene in the books where he is naked,
the death scene where he meets Dumbledore at King's Cross
station, this scene seem completely made up. 

I'm wondering if it isn't some kind of dream sequence. I also
wonder if the reporter who originally reported this, hasn't
himself gotten mixed up and combine several unrelated comments
by David Yates into one.

The comment as it stands now is -

"Daniel Radcliffe appears naked in one scene where Harry and 
Ron are fighting a magical creature, who fled to confuse and 
create a vision. In the view we see Harry and a woman embracing
and kissing. It's an intriguing scene and very sensual. "

Really? Harry is naked while he and Ron fight Magical Creatures?
And apparently, though it is very confusing, as the creatures
retreat, the 'create a vision'? 

Is this really necessary? It seems like a pointless diversion
that has no purpose other than showing Harry Potter/Dan Radcliffe
naked. I think there is a long complex story to tell, shouldn't
they be concentrating on that? 

Just a thought.

Steve/bboyminn




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Wed Nov  4 22:42:59 2009
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force))
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:42:59 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter gets Naked .... Really?
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References: <hcsr33+ji4m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <0C0F13985A9F4EE68BE88974D28BA541@FRODO>

[bboymin]:
| "Daniel Radcliffe appears naked in one scene where Harry and 
| Ron are fighting a magical creature, who fled to confuse and 
| create a vision. In the view we see Harry and a woman embracing
| and kissing. It's an intriguing scene and very sensual. "

<Snip>

[Lee]:
Hmm--are the refs there to the vision from the Horcrux from the Slytherin
locket, perhaps?  Of course, with movie perversions beting what they are,
this might not be the case.  But, that's the one thing that comes to mind.

Lee :-)

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From md at exit-reality.com  Wed Nov  4 22:46:15 2009
From: md at exit-reality.com (Child Of Midian)
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:46:15 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Harry Potter gets Naked .... Really?
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References: <hcsr33+ji4m@eGroups.com>
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-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of bboyminn


The comment as it stands now is -

"Daniel Radcliffe appears naked in one scene where Harry and 
Ron are fighting a magical creature, who fled to confuse and 
create a vision. In the view we see Harry and a woman embracing
and kissing. It's an intriguing scene and very sensual. "
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I'd have said it sounds like complete and utter nonsense and that the
"reporter" has no idea what they are talking about -- but, I'd have said the
same thing if someone said they'd burn the Weasley home down in HBP...

,d




From brian at rescueddoggies.com  Thu Nov  5 05:40:36 2009
From: brian at rescueddoggies.com (Brian)
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2009 02:40:36 -0300
Subject: Harry Potter gets Naked .... Really?
Message-ID: <4AF26554.2020404@rescueddoggies.com>

It has been suggested on various forums that Yates is referring to the 
scene with Ron destroying the horcrux, when the "creature" Voldemort 
within the horcrux makes Ron see Harry and Hermione together.

Brian



From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  6 00:43:11 2009
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (bboyminn)
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 00:43:11 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter gets Naked .... Really? -- Revised
In-Reply-To: <hcsr33+ji4m@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hcvrev+tlu4@eGroups.com>



---  "bboyminn" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
> As you many have discovered by now, David Yates has made a 
> comment in an interview indicating that Dan Radcliffe playing
> Harry Potter will 'get naked' in one of the last Harry Potter
> movies.
> 
> ...
> 
> ...
> The comment as it stands now is -
> 
> "Daniel Radcliffe appears naked in one scene where Harry and 
> Ron are fighting a magical creature, who fled to confuse and 
> create a vision. In the view we see Harry and a woman embracing
> and kissing. It's an intriguing scene and very sensual. "
> 
> Really? Harry is naked while he and Ron fight Magical Creatures?
> ...
> Just a thought.
> 
> Steve/bboyminn
>

bboyminn:

According to a recent report, the original quote from David
Yates was in an Italian Magazine. Dan Radcliffe is saying, or
so /they/ are saying, that this is completely false and
that it is the result of a mistranslation.

Though this second report comes from in India(?), and since
it is the only report, I'm not sure how much either comment
can be trusted.

http://trak.in/news/daniel-radcliffe-wont-strip-in-next-potter-film/20360/

Also, note the claim that the Return of Ron and the Destorying
of the Horcrux allegedly occur in Part 1. Does that or just
after really seem like a good break point?

Just passing it along.

Steve/bboyminn




From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  6 07:27:30 2009
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (lizzie_snape)
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 07:27:30 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter gets Naked .... Really?
In-Reply-To: <4AF26554.2020404@rescueddoggies.com>
Message-ID: <hd0j52+qj7l@eGroups.com>


If they *must* have a nekkid Harry scene, why not use the one that's actually in the book?  King's Cross . . .

Lizzie




From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Nov  6 17:12:07 2009
From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff)
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:12:07 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter gets Naked .... Really?
In-Reply-To: <hd0j52+qj7l@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hd1ld7+hdg8@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "lizzie_snape" <lizzy1933 at ...> wrote:

Lizzie:
> If they *must* have a nekkid Harry scene, why not use the one that's actually in the book?  King's Cross . . .

GEoff:
Well, if the screenplay writer is sticking to the bare essentials of the plot, he will...
:-))





From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Fri Nov  6 19:56:42 2009
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper)
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:56:42 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter gets Naked .... Really? -- Revised
In-Reply-To: <hcvrev+tlu4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hd1v1q+e727@eGroups.com>

> Steve/bboyminn:
> Also, note the claim that the Return of Ron and the Destorying
> of the Horcrux allegedly occur in Part 1. Does that or just
> after really seem like a good break point?

Kemper now:
The Return of Ron towards the end of Part 1 makes sense as far as movie endings go.

Many times in movies, the story structure frequently has some sort of separation of the protagonist from his friend/ally/loved-one/and/or/romantic interest.  Will they be reunited or stay forever apart!?!  I don't know... I have to keep watching!

Some examples:
Luke and Han in Star Wars.
Shrek and Fiona/Donkey in Shrek.
Westly and Buttercup in The Princess Bride.
Ennis and Jack in Brokeback Mountain.
Hillary and Clint in Million Dollar Baby.
The Whalerider and her grandpa in Whalerider.
Will and Marcus in About a Boy.
Every romantic comedy.


So it seems the screenwriter thought the Ron's reunification with Harry/Hermione fits naturally to the ending of part 1 which may be the introduction of the story of The Tale of the Three Brothers as told by Xenophilius or read by Hermione or who/whatever the screenwriter thinks is best.

Kemper




From zanooda2 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  7 06:20:35 2009
From: zanooda2 at yahoo.com (zanooda2)
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 06:20:35 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter gets Naked .... Really? -- Revised
In-Reply-To: <hcvrev+tlu4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hd33jj+67p0@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "bboyminn" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:


> Also, note the claim that the Return of Ron and the Destroying
> of the Horcrux allegedly occur in Part 1. Does that or just
> after really seem like a good break point?


zanooda:

Earlier they said that the breaking point would be very soon after HRH's capture by the Snatchers, because they wanted the ending of the first movie to be something of a cliffhanger. I assumed that this meant the scene at Malfoy Manor or right after. However, Ron's return seems like a more convenient ending, so maybe they indeed changed their mind. I remember the director saying that the final decision will be made later, at the editing stage, and this kind of makes sense :-).  




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  7 19:06:41 2009
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:06:41 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter gets Naked .... Really? -- Revised
In-Reply-To: <hd33jj+67p0@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hd4gg1+tqe5@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "zanooda2" <zanooda2 at ...> wrote:
>
> --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "bboyminn" <bboyminn@> wrote:
> 
> 
> > Also, note the claim that the Return of Ron and the Destroying
> > of the Horcrux allegedly occur in Part 1. Does that or just
> > after really seem like a good break point?
> 
> 
> zanooda:
> 
> Earlier they said that the breaking point would be very soon after HRH's capture by the Snatchers, because they wanted the ending of the first movie to be something of a cliffhanger. I assumed that this meant the scene at Malfoy Manor or right after. However, Ron's return seems like a more convenient ending, so maybe they indeed changed their mind. I remember the director saying that the final decision will be made later, at the editing stage, and this kind of makes sense :-).
>
Carol responds:
Personally, I can't see Ron's return as the end of the first film. There's just too much to squeeze into the second film (and not enough in the first film unless they want to prolong the agony of the camping trip) to end the first one there. I think they'll most likely end the first one with Dobby's burial and begin the second one with the Gringotts break-in--all the action of the second film in one very long twenty-four hours. That's how I would do it, anyway.

Carol, who and hopes that Snape's Pensieve memories (and maybe the encounter with Aberforth) will provide a much-needed break from the almost nonstop action of the second film 




From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Sat Nov  7 22:21:42 2009
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper)
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:21:42 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter gets Naked .... Really? -- Revised
In-Reply-To: <hd4gg1+tqe5@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hd4rtm+o7if@eGroups.com>


> Carol responds:
> Personally, I can't see Ron's return as the end of the first film. There's just too much to squeeze into the second film (and not enough in the first film unless they want to prolong the agony of the camping trip) to end the first one there. 

Kemper now:
Well, if Part 1 does end with RoR, maybe they will stretch out some action scenes maybe even add a scene here or there.  I bet the camping trip is quick and painless unlike the read.

As for Part 2 being too much to cram in, I imagine they'll pare down or snip out scenes.

Kemper




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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 18 01:12:42 2009
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (bboyminn)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:12:42 -0000
Subject: Harry and the Spliff - Well, actually, Dan and the 'so called' Spliff
Message-ID: <hdvhma+ed42@eGroups.com>

For those who don't follow celebrity news, one of the UK tabloids
allegedly has a photo of Dan Radcliffe, smoking a joint at a
party.

One of many news stories -

http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2009/11/14/harry-potter-star-daniel-radcliffe-denies-smoking-cannabis-claiming-he-was-photographed-with-a-roll-up-115875-21820577/

First, the picture of Dan with his face all painted up, I thought,
was funny. Something kids might do when they are bored at a party. 

As to what he was smoking, I think, for the most part, this is
none of our business. We aren't him, we aren't his parents, we
aren't the police. Dan, through his lawyers, flatly denied
the claim and said it was a 'roll up', meaning a hand rolled
cigarette.

Frankly, it bothers me a lot more that he is smoking a cigarette,
that it does that he might have an occasional joint. I would
never go so far as to claim smoking Pot was harmless, but let's
face in, million are killed every year by tobacco. The fact that
it is legal doesn't make those people any less dead. 

There is an old expression 'live and learn', well, we can't
expect people to learn about life, unless we are equaling
willing to let them go out and learn from their mistakes. 

I think it is ridiculous for society to hold 'celebrities' up
to some ridiculously high standard. A standard ,that in a vasts
majority of cases, the people that are making the accusations
are themselves not living up to. 

I also thing is far more unethical, immoral, and improper for
the person who released the photograph to have done so. While
I acknowledge that celebrities do have a much greater public
persona that most people, and a higher level of interest by
the public in general. I also feel that there has to be a limit
on that. That these people deserver to have a reasonable degree
of private life. They have a right to be able to go places and
do things in private, and have some reasonable belief those
things will stay private. 

I'm thinking back to a few incidences when Prince Harry was
make out to be an 'outlaw' for coming out of a pub slightly
tipsy. How is this news? How is it, in any way, a scandal? 
I don't suppose it matters that there were 200 or 300 other
people his age in the same club, and possible thousand of 
similar kids out in clubs and pub in London at large on the
same night?

Back to Dan; perhaps we should find out who took this picture, 
and find out if they smoked pot, or drank underage, or were
breaking some other law in being there and taking that
picture.  Again, while I can't prove anything, there seems
to be a boiling level of hypocrisy in stories like this. 

A vast majority of celebrity headlines can be summed up as
'Normal Person Does Normal Thing'. None of this is anyone's
business, and none of it is certainly news of any sort.

But then, that's just my opinion.

Steve/bluewizard




From dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com  Sat Nov 21 21:03:25 2009
From: dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com (dumbledore11214)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2009 21:03:25 -0000
Subject: What a snob!/ Good writing/bad writing redux
In-Reply-To: <b6e131bf0910182312k67c7c8c3p58d85bff862e36f8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <he9kit+udi6@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "P. Alexis Nguyen" <alexisnguyen at ...> wrote:
>
> md:
> > can someone post a link that works? This one won't for me.
> 
> Ali:
> Try this:  http://www.good.is/post/the-dan-brown-diversion/
> 
> I don't know if it'll work better, but it's worth the shot.
> 
> Frankly, I think the author has a valid point beneath that thick layer
> of snobbery.  Coverage of the Dan Brown, Stephanie Meyer, JRK, etc.
> books of the world do overshadow the fact that there are tons of great
> books being put out (the author citing Pynchon and Doctorow, both more
> more accessible than the author's ivory tower/liberal arts veneer
> might indicate).  It's not that the Brown/Meyer/etc books aren't
> infinitely readable and accessible pop fiction (I own some of these
> very books; heck, I have an entire over-flowing bookshelf dedicated to
> romance novels) nor that the particular authors seems to have managed
> to capture a giant reading audience in a time when everyone seems to
> be bemoaning the fact that no one reads anymore, but it's hard to deny
> that the coverage of them is at the cost of coverage of other books,
> with names like Doctorow being relatively known without having the big
> fame of a Dan Brown (though Doctorow is certainly a better writer than
> Brown, that hack - and I read and liked Da Vinci Code).  Now, it's not
> necessarily anyone's fault, but it doesn't make Anne Trubek (the
> original article's author) any less valid, pretty much like we don't
> go dismissing all the medical knowledge that came out of the Nazi
> doctors' human experimentation just because said doctors were
> terrible, wretched, horrible human beings (too many adjectives?).
> 
> And just to really cover myself, I do not mean pop fiction in any
> denigrating way.  Both Shakespeare and Dumas, pere, were pop
> phenomenons in their days, and I very much enjoy both their bodies of
> work.  :)
> 
> ~Ali
>


Hey Ali,

Even though I already replied to your post couple months ago, I wanted to get back to this thread one more time simply because I finally got myself Homer and Langley by Doctorov and read it. And you know, frankly I think this book illustrates one of the possible reasons why people may prefer Harry Potter books to it. Or I should say why **I** would prefer Harry Potter books to it. Now in the interest of full disclosure I have never ever read anything by Doctorov, I know that he is a well known writer, but I resigned myself to the fact that no matter how hard I try I would never be able to read all famous american writers, catching up with cultural gaps will never be complete heh.

So, while I enjoyed the book tremendously and I will happily agree that as a writer Doctorov runs circles around JKR, I will never ever ever will be tempted to reread this book again. Do you know how I was feeling by the end of the book and again, this is just a subjective opinion of one reader? As if I am suffocating.  I mean, he writes so so so well, when I read the book, usually I tend to picture the world I am reading about not exactly simultaneously, my mind needs to process the words and only then give me picture, but here it was so so clear, it is like every sentence just made the pictures clearer and clearer. And I was sympathizing with the characters too, which was quite hard to do. I will totally give this book five stars on goodreads or anywhere else.

But to me it was just so depressing. I do not care that he took liberties with the RL characters, this is another cultural gap of mine, before I read the book and about it, I never heard of them, but I am just not sure why I would want to keep this book on my bookshelf.

As I mentioned several times my background is not in the most cheerful literature ever lol, so it is not like I require my books to be cheerful and joyful all the time, but this book, oy, just oy.

So, yeah, I wonder if this critic may want to sit down and think over the idea, that maybe just maybe media covers the books releases that people actually **LIKE** and want to read and reread, and for legit reasons too.

JMO,

Alla




From willsonkmom at msn.com  Sun Nov 22 12:53:54 2009
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 12:53:54 -0000
Subject: What a snob!/ Good writing/bad writing redux
In-Reply-To: <he9kit+udi6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hebc92+a90c@eGroups.com>


> Alla:
 
> As I mentioned several times my background is not in the most cheerful literature ever lol, so it is not like I require my books to be cheerful and joyful all the time, but this book, oy, just oy.

Potioncat:
On a slightly different note.
Our high school reading list has some excellent books and short stories. I don't have a problem with any one of the selection. However, the selection itself is horrible. Every single of the books/plays/short stories has to do with death.

I don't think it's the right mix for teenagers, especially with the teen suicide rate so high. Not that I think a depressing book will make someone become depressed, but it wouldn't help someone who already was. I certainly wouldn't want to read all of those selections in a 9 month span.

 






From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Nov 22 18:23:29 2009
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:23:29 -0000
Subject: What a snob!/ Good writing/bad writing redux
In-Reply-To: <he9kit+udi6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hebvj1+52do@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" <dumbledore11214 at ...> wrote:

<< the RL characters, this is another cultural gap of mine, before I read the book and about it, I never heard of them >>

That's not a cultural gap. I'd never heard of the Langley brothers either, before the publicity for that book.




From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Nov 22 18:43:04 2009
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 22 Nov 2009 18:43:04 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 11/22/2009, 1:00 pm 
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From catlady at wicca.net  Sun Nov 22 18:25:05 2009
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:25:05 -0000
Subject: What a snob!/ Good writing/bad writing redux
In-Reply-To: <hebc92+a90c@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hebvm1+kl8q@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom at ...> wrote:

<< Our high school reading list has some excellent books and short stories. I don't have a problem with any one of the selection. However, the selection itself is horrible. Every single of the books/plays/short stories has to do with death.

I don't think it's the right mix for teenagers, especially with the teen suicide rate so high. Not that I think a depressing book will make someone become depressed, but it wouldn't help someone who already was. I certainly wouldn't want to read all of those selections in a 9 month span. >>

Have you spoken to whomever put the list together? 





From willsonkmom at msn.com  Mon Nov 23 03:08:06 2009
From: willsonkmom at msn.com (potioncat)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 03:08:06 -0000
Subject: What a snob!/ Good writing/bad writing redux
In-Reply-To: <hebvm1+kl8q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hecuam+r5gt@eGroups.com>

Potioncat, earlier:
> I don't think it's the right mix for teenagers, especially with the teen suicide rate so high. Not that I think a depressing book will make someone become depressed, but it wouldn't help someone who already was. I certainly wouldn't want to read all of those selections in a 9 month span. >>

Catlady
> 
> Have you spoken to whomever put the list together?

Potioncat:
I brought it up in a larger meeting one time. The list is county-wide, I think.
>





From Mhochberg at aol.com  Sat Nov 28 05:55:12 2009
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mhochberg at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 00:55:12 -0500
Subject: What a snob!/ Good writing/bad writing redux
Message-ID: <8CC3E067C2B875D-C50-1D67@webmail-d002.sysops.aol.com>


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "potioncat" <willsonkmom@
...> wrote:

<< Our high school reading list has some excellent books andshort stories. I don't have a problem with any one of the selection.However, the selection itself is horrible. Every single of thebooks/plays/short stories has to do with death.

I don't think it's the right mix for teenagers, especially with theteen suicide rate so high. Not that I think a depressing book will makesomeone become depressed, but it wouldn't help someone who already was.I certainly wouldn't want to read all of those selections in a 9 monthspan. >>

I write: 
What Potioncat is seeing is not that uncommon in our high schools also. A few years ago, I did a survey of the local public and private high schools. One of the things I looked at was the summer reading lists for incoming freshman. While each title was worthwhile, the overall effect was incredibly depressing. It was skewed look at humanity and I would not recommend that anyone, any age, read that selection of books, one after another, in so short a period of time. 



---Mary
http://techmom236.wordpress.com/
"If you read a lot of books you are considered well read. But if you watch a lot of TV, you are not considered well viewed."    Lily Tomlin




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From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Sat Nov 28 10:49:11 2009
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 05:49:11 EST
Subject: Fwd: ACLU Christmas card
Message-ID: <c33.663a49dd.38425a27@aol.com>

     
 
I apologize in advance to any who see this as  inappropriate, but having 
discussed this topic in Christmases past I  thought some would be interested. 
I intend to do this and hope others will  too.
 
Sandy



 



Subject: ACLU Christmas card









 
 
 


Too good not to pass  
along!!









Pass  
this on.......  What do you have to lose but 44 cents,  what do you 
have to gain ----------- more than you will ever  know.  


What a  clever 
idea!
Yes, Christmas cards. This is coming early  so that you can get 
ready to include an important address to  your list.

Want to have 
some fun this CHRISTMAS? Send  the ACLU a CHRISTMAS CARD this 
year.

As they are  working so very hard to get rid of the 
CHRISTMAS part of  this holiday, we should all send them a nice, 
CHRISTIAN card  to brighten up their dark, sad, little 
world..

Make  sure it says "Merry Christmas" on it.

Here's 
the  address, just don't be rude or crude. (It's not the  
Christian 
way, you know.)

ACLU
125 Broad  Street
18th Floor
New 
York , NY  10004

Two tons  of 
Christmas cards would freeze their operations because  they wouldn't know 
if any were regular mail containing  contributions.   
So  spend 
44 cents and tell the ACLU to leave Christmas alone.  Also tell them that 
there is no such thing as a " Holiday  Tree". . .  It's always been called  
a 
CHRISTMAS TREE!

And pass this on to your email  lists. We really 
want to communicate with the ACLU! They  really DESERVE us!!

For 
those of you who aren't aware  of them, the ACLU, (the American Civil 
Liberties 
Union) is  the one suing the U.S. Government to take God, 
Christmas or  anything Christian away from us. They represent the 
atheists  and others in this war. Help put Christ back in  
Christmas!
--  

















p







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From heidi8 at gmail.com  Sat Nov 28 12:54:07 2009
From: heidi8 at gmail.com (Heidi Tandy)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:54:07 -0500
Subject: Infinitus Holiday Special
Message-ID: <5913e6f80911280454l7a3ffb57xcf6f78e549e27f26@mail.gmail.com>

Black Friday may be over but to stay in the holiday mood, from now
through December 31, 2009, you will get a $5 gift certificate for use
at the Infinitus merchandise table when you buy a regular
registration, upgrade to Merlin's Circle or add on a keynote luncheon.

So this holiday season, pick up an Infinitus registration for yourself
or a friend - or treat yourself and a friend to lunch next July!

 HPEF and Infinitus welcome scholars and fans of all origins to
explore the mysteries and questions buried in JK Rowling?s novels.
Anyone who wishes to deepen their knowledge of and appreciation for
the books, explore their influence on our culture, or simply bask in
one of the largest and most influential fan followings ever assembled
will find a home at Infinitus. By combining the elements of an
academic conference and a fan convention, Infinitus will offer an
opportunity to investigate, deconstruct, discuss, and illustrate these
future classics in the company of fellow enthusiasts.

If you are interested in submitting a panel, paper or other
presentation, please see our  Call for Proposals (CfP) at
http://www.infinitus2010.org/cfp.html - and if you sign up for our
newsletter at http://www.infinitus2010.org/index.html you'll get the
latest information on events, programming and submission details.

Will there be fanfic readings? A gallery? Wizard rock? Podcasts?
Cosplay? Meetups? Quidditch?

Yes. Details about all those things are forthcoming, so please sign up
for our newsletter and keep checking the website for more!

And yes, there will also be events and fun in Universal Studios
Orlando's Wizarding World of Harry Potter at Islands of Adventure.

Infinitus takes place from July 15 - 18, and is geared for those ages
14 and up; information about the separate kids' track will be coming
soon.

Questions? Email us at info at infinitus2010.org, and we'll see you next July!



From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 29 01:45:09 2009
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (lizzie_snape)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:45:09 -0000
Subject: Fwd: ACLU Christmas card
In-Reply-To: <c33.663a49dd.38425a27@aol.com>
Message-ID: <hesjn5+pk6t@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, OctobersChild48 at ... wrote:
>
>      
>  
> I apologize in advance to any who see this as  inappropriate, but having 
> discussed this topic in Christmases past I  thought some would be interested. 
> I intend to do this and hope others will  too.
>  
> Sandy
> 

Please get real.  There is NO campaign to get rid of Christmas by anyone, including the ACLU.

Lizzie




From lizzy1933 at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 29 01:58:20 2009
From: lizzy1933 at yahoo.com (lizzie_snape)
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 01:58:20 -0000
Subject: Fwd: ACLU Christmas card
In-Reply-To: <c33.663a49dd.38425a27@aol.com>
Message-ID: <heskfs+o21g@eGroups.com>


Here's the truth about the ACLU Christmas Card:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/christmas/aclucards.asp

Lizzie




From md at exit-reality.com  Sun Nov 29 02:11:15 2009
From: md at exit-reality.com (Child Of Midian)
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:11:15 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Fwd: ACLU Christmas card
In-Reply-To: <c33.663a49dd.38425a27@aol.com>
References: <c33.663a49dd.38425a27@aol.com>
Message-ID: <000301ca7099$3ed5b2e0$bc8118a0$@com>

Coals, on Glenn Becks fire.

md

-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
OctobersChild48 at aol.com
Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2009 5:49 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Fwd: ACLU Christmas card

     
 
I apologize in advance to any who see this as  inappropriate, but having 
discussed this topic in Christmases past I  thought some would be
interested. 
I intend to do this and hope others will  too.
 
Sandy




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Nov 29 02:21:12 2009
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force))
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:21:12 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Fwd: ACLU Christmas card
In-Reply-To: <hesjn5+pk6t@eGroups.com>
References: <c33.663a49dd.38425a27@aol.com> <hesjn5+pk6t@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <49C63C9C49B046A4960304E635BB61E9@FRODO>

| --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, OctobersChild48 at ... wrote:
| > I apologize in advance to any who see this as  
| inappropriate, but having 
| > discussed this topic in Christmases past I  thought some 
| would be interested. 
| > I intend to do this and hope others will  too.
| >  
| > Sandy
| > 
| [Lizzie-Snape]:
| Please get real.  There is NO campaign to get rid of 
| Christmas by anyone, including the ACLU.

[Lee]:
Sandy, et al,
When you get these email forwards, you really should check with snopes.com
to establish whether or not they are really true and worth sending.  The
site does have a "Snopes Updates" newsletter that's sent out usually every
week with the latest email falsehoods, scams, and truths.

As far as the ACLU and Christmas, please take a look at:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/christmas/aclucards.asp

You'll note that the thing is false.

Sorry if I am ranting here, but I get so ticked off by all the idiocy that
comes into my inbox because people believe everything they read and don't
check it out for it's validity.

Peace,

Lee :)




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Nov 29 02:27:08 2009
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force))
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:27:08 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Fwd: ACLU Christmas card
In-Reply-To: <000301ca7099$3ed5b2e0$bc8118a0$@com>
References: <c33.663a49dd.38425a27@aol.com> <000301ca7099$3ed5b2e0$bc8118a0$@com>
Message-ID: <14332F6E824E4A0F8F10A418C8355238@FRODO>

[MD]:
| Coals, on Glenn Becks fire.

[Lee]:
Merlin's Beard!  Some of those people are the worst at not checking the
validity of some of this stuff.

I remember an open letter read by some talk personality which was attributed
to some preacher and I knew it wasn't because I knew who wrote the letter.
Talk about ticked off...

Let me shut up, now.

Peace,

Lee :)
(Back to listening to "Watership Down")

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From joeydebs at yahoo.com  Sun Nov 29 12:53:47 2009
From: joeydebs at yahoo.com (Joey (Deborah))
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:53:47 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Fwd: ACLU Christmas card
Message-ID: <17948.84414.qm@web23602.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

Hey, thanks for the snopes thing, it's really useful! Does anyone know whether there's a similar website for the UK or does this one just cover everything?
Joeydebs


      



From n2fgc at arrl.net  Sun Nov 29 17:47:17 2009
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force))
Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 12:47:17 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Fwd: ACLU Christmas card
In-Reply-To: <17948.84414.qm@web23602.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
References: <17948.84414.qm@web23602.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1F3C5EDB0C8C4E33B72CA120703D0E61@FRODO>

[Joey]:
| Hey, thanks for the snopes thing, it's really useful! Does 
| anyone know whether there's a similar website for the UK or 
| does this one just cover everything?

[Lee]:
Interessting question....I think snopes tackles everything that comes to it.
However, if there is a UK snopes-type team, I'd love to know, too.  Dave and
Barbara have been at this for a good long time.

Smile,

Lee :-)




From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Nov 29 18:43:25 2009
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 29 Nov 2009 18:43:25 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 11/29/2009, 1:00 pm 
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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Mon Nov 30 02:54:09 2009
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mary H)
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:54:09 -0000
Subject: A tiny bit of HP on NCIS: LA last Tuesday
Message-ID: <hevc4h+dmht@eGroups.com>

Last Tuesday's episode of NCIS: LA had a scene in a Steampunk bar. Two of the bartenders called the NCIS agents "muggles." Jus a nice touch of whimsy in an already whimsical scene.

---Mary