Good story/bad writer: (Was: What a snob!)/SPOILER for Twilight
dumbledore11214
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Wed Oct 28 17:08:01 UTC 2009
zanooda:
Besides, if an author uses the first-person narrative, like Meyer does, she
always has an excuse that it is her character who has a limited vocabulary, not
herself, LOL. I suppose we should be grateful that her teenage heroine is an old
soul and not your typical teenage girl, otherwise Meyer would be forced to write
like this:
"And then I, like, saw him for the first time, and he was, like, sooo hot...
and, like, totally cool... and I was, like, 'whatever'..." :-).
Alla:
Oh yeah, could have been much worse, you are totally right.
Alla before:
> whether we find character likeable or not does not really
> matter if we are talking about writer's skill, right?
zanooda:
I think so too. For example, I really hate Scarlett O'Hara, but I love the rest
of the "Gone with the Wind"... :-).
Alla:
You know, as an aside, it is funny, Scarlet O'Hara is the type of character I would usually really hate, because of how she treated human beings around her, specifically Rett. Sense of entitlement/ownership over another human being is usually enough for me to hate the character, but funnily I do not hate her. I wonder why. Maybe because I think that she did it to herself too, that she really will be that miserable without him? I wonder, but yes, sure we agree on that point.
Alla:
> I could not put the first book down till I finish it, thus I
> found it pretty compelling. I do not want to reread it, but
> this has a lot to do with the events in the last book. I just
> cannot muster any sympathy for the characters anymore.
zanooda:
How did you manage to skip books 2 and 3 and go directly to book 4 :-)? These
books don't have isolated plots, IMO, they are all intertwined. They are all one
and the same story, and I think that without reading books 2 and 3 I wouldn't
have understood what was going on in book 4. Well, it's too late for you now
:-), and I totally understand the aversion you feel to the rest of the story. I
would have probably felt the same way in your place. As it is, I only feel
aversion to the fourth book alone... :-).
Alla:
Ah, sure I agree with you, they are intertwined and not the separate story, I however disagree with you that it is not possible to do so and understand everything that occurred in book 4 heh. You know me, I have no aversion to spoilers, so I just read the plot summaries on Wikipedia and it was not enough for me to understand the plot lol.
As to why I did it, well there was a reason for that. See, as I mentioned before I enjoyed book 1 well enough, however, I started despising Bella at the end of book one already.
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See, I found her desire to be with boy she loves so to be totally understandable, however however I found her way to do so to be selfish and quite despicable and this is just my opinion of course. Now if her thoughts were to wish for Edward to become human, I totally get it. She however wanted herself to become a vampire. And while I totally do not mind reading vampire stories and sometimes even love them, in my mind vampires are monsters, you know? I love vampire struggling for his humanity (a la Angel and Spike and Buffy), I love vampire understanding who he is and finding ways around it or not, I however cannot think of vampires as anything else but monsters and to me, no boy is worth being with if you have to become a monster herself.
So anyway that is the reason why I skipped books 2 and 3, I just did not care much and to me, the book 1 stood pretty much on its own, however I caved in and did decide to find out how this all end heh.
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