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From saraandra at saraandra.plus.com  Mon Dec  6 09:16:27 2010
From: saraandra at saraandra.plus.com (AmanitaMuscaria)
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 09:16:27 -0000
Subject: To Hogwarts via the MTA
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So cool!
Thanks for sharing.
AM

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> A friend of mine sent me this link to an article that he (rightly) thought I'd find amusing:
> 
> http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/11/22/2010-11-22_mta_offering_service_to_hogwarts_sign_for_magical_harry_potter_train_line_appear.html
> 
> I'll include a tinyurl in case the long one gives us trouble:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/2f587db
> 
> On an unrelated note (except that it's a link), I spent nearly a day trying to locate an old URL, which I finally found in an e-mail message and was able to access using a website called the Wayback Machine (anyone besides me old enough to understand that reference?): 
> 
> http://web.archive.org/collections/web.html
> 
> Very useful website--Wish I'd known about it years ago.
> 
> For the curious, the archived website I managed to access--and download from--is a lovely interactive Advent calendar with Bible verses and screenshots from the 2008 film "The Nativity Story." Starting December 1, you click on the blinking star (it changes each day) and open a window for each day in Advent. The music is lovely, too, and can be changed if you get tired of it. Almost forgot to include the archived URL (the old one is inaccessible): http://web.archive.org/web/20061224142503/http:
> //www.thenativitystory.com/advent-calendar.html
> 
> (You have to copy and paste the whole URL, two http's and all. I can supply a tinyurl if anyone needs it.)
> 
> Happy Advent (the four weeks before Christmas) to those who celebrate it.
> 
> Carol, also wishing a slightly early Happy Hanukkah those who celebrate it
>





From saraandra at saraandra.plus.com  Mon Dec  6 09:26:19 2010
From: saraandra at saraandra.plus.com (AmanitaMuscaria)
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 09:26:19 -0000
Subject: For Snape fans
Message-ID: <idia7r+9g77@eGroups.com>

Just did a search for Snape on Google, and came back with this -
 
Snapecall South West Ltd, Dursley, Gloucestershire.

I'm tempted, but I suspect they've already had enough squees ...

AM




From lyyved at earthlink.net  Mon Dec  6 21:00:39 2010
From: lyyved at earthlink.net (Lynn Eddy)
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 16:00:39 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Harry Potter Fans Fight World Hunger
Message-ID: <33295844.1291669239976.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rustique.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Hi, 

I have started a group on FreeRice.com called "Harry Potter Fans Fight Hunger" For those of you who are not familiar with FreeRice, it is a website where you can answer multiple choice questions on a variety of subjects (English vocabulary, Famous paintings & artists, Chemical Symbols, Spanish vocabulary, World Capitals, etc) and for every correct answer you earn 10 grains of rice for hungry people around the world. This is distributed through the United Nations World Food Programme. It's fun, educational and worthwhile!

The UN World Food Programme (WFP) distributes all of the rice that you donate to help fight hunger. It is the United Nations frontline agency in the fight against global hunger and the world's largest humanitarian organization, working closely with many other organizations in over 75 countries.
In addition to providing food, WFP helps hungry people to become self-reliant so that they escape hunger for good. Wherever possible, they purchase food locally to save on transportation costs and to help boost local markets.

If you are interested here is the link to the group.
http://www.freerice.com/content-group/harry-potter-fans-fight-hunger

You will have to register (it's free) and then join the group. To have your totals count toward the groups totals each time, login, go to the group link and then click "play" from there.

Currently we have 16 members who have earned 20,200 grains of rice since I started the group on Oct 18. This is without any advertising, so I am hoping for a big jump now. I think it is possible to have 250,000 grains donated by the end of the year, all from Harry Potter fans!

I apologize if you get multiple copies of this from multiple Harry Potter groups. And I also apologize if this breaks the rules for any of the groups. I promise it is a one-time mention and it is for charity, so I hope the breech of protocol will be forgiven.

Lynn




From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com  Mon Dec  6 23:58:11 2010
From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff)
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:58:11 -0000
Subject: For Snape fans
In-Reply-To: <idia7r+9g77@eGroups.com>
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "AmanitaMuscaria" <saraandra at ...> wrote:

AM:
> Just did a search for Snape on Google, and came back with this -
  
> Snapecall South West Ltd, Dursley, Gloucestershire.
 
> I'm tempted, but I suspect they've already had enough squees ...

Geoff:
Building, maintenance and repair company if that has any relevance....

...though I think than Vernon could probably do with some maintenance
 and repair.
:-)




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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 27 09:19:22 2010
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 09:19:22 -0000
Subject: Dan Radcliffe on QI (Quite Interesting) with Stephen Fry
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QI is a really fun funny trivia show in the UK -

Here is an episode in which Dan Radcliffe appears -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3PLjAxe07M&feature=popt17us14

Steve/bboyminn




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 28 16:05:08 2010
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 16:05:08 -0000
Subject: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"
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I saw a teeny clip from "My Boy Jack" in which Dan Radcliffe appears as the young Rudyard Kipling (why he's called Jack, I don't know--maybe because Rudyard is such an awful name). All I remember is that someone (his father?) thinks he's old enough to go off to war and that he looks like a young Hitler! Has anyone seen this film and is it worth seeing? Can Dan Radcliffe act well enough that the audience doesn't think of him as Harry Potter with a mustache?

Carol, wishing everyone who celebrates it a happy Christmas season (it's the fourth day of Christmas by my count)




From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 28 21:01:55 2010
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 21:01:55 -0000
Subject: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> I saw a teeny clip from "My Boy Jack" in which Dan Radcliffe appears as the young Rudyard Kipling (why he's called Jack, I don't know--maybe because Rudyard is such an awful name). ... Has anyone seen this film and is it worth seeing? Can Dan Radcliffe act well enough that the audience doesn't think of him as Harry Potter with a mustache?
> 
> Carol, wishing everyone who celebrates it a happy Christmas season (it's the fourth day of Christmas by my count)
>

This movie is the typical caliber of a made for TV movie, so good but not great. 

And it is NOT about young Rudyard Kipling, it is about Rudyard Kilping's yound son JOHN Kipling (Dan Radcliffe), and Jack is a common nickname for John. Though it seems somewhat pointless, I can see Jim for James, or Bob for Robert, but 'Jack' and 'John' are the same length and one is no easier to say they the other. 

It is actually David Haig that plays Rudyard Kipling in the film, and I think he is also the producer/director of the film. 

It is an interesting film, and well worth seeing, but unless you are an obsessive fan, it is probably not worth buying. 

By the way, have you seen Dan Radcliffe in "David Copperfield"? It is available at video rental stores. Another, more or less, made for TV movie, but Dan does a very good job in it. 

I actually bought a copy of December Boys, the only theater likely to play it was 120 miles away, and the price of the movie was less than the cost of the gas. But, I did drive that 120 miles to see 'Driving Lessons' with Rupert, which I enjoyed. 

Would love to see 'Cherrybomb' with Rupert, but once again, it is probably much cheaper to buy it on CD than to drive to the nearest independent film theater. 

Steve/bluewizard





From n2fgc at arrl.net  Tue Dec 28 21:25:03 2010
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force))
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 16:25:03 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"
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[Steve B]:
| Jack is a common nickname for John. Though it seems somewhat 
| pointless, I can see Jim for James, or Bob for Robert, but 
| 'Jack' and 'John' are the same length and one is no easier to 
| say they the other.

[Lee]:
Perhaps Jack came up because the French Jacques is our John.  Just a
possibility.

Smile,

Lee
(Who, on the fifth day of Christmas, knows she won't get five golden
rings.)




From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com  Tue Dec 28 22:35:50 2010
From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff)
Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 22:35:50 -0000
Subject: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:

Carol:
> I saw a teeny clip from "My Boy Jack" in which Dan Radcliffe appears as the young Rudyard Kipling (why he's called Jack, I don't know--maybe because Rudyard is such an awful name). All I remember is that someone (his father?) thinks he's old enough to go off to war and that he looks like a young Hitler! Has anyone seen this film and is it worth seeing? Can Dan Radcliffe act well enough that the audience doesn't think of him as Harry Potter with a mustache?

Geoff:
I'm surprised this came up at this particular time because it aired 
again on British TV in November which is its natural spot. It 
premiered in November 2007 because it was part of the 
commemorations that year for Remembrance Day (11 November) 
and was transmitted on Remembrance Sunday which is the nearest 
to the 11th.

Dan said at the time that he wanted to make it a vehicle for his 
own personal acknowledgement for the fallen as he had had a 
grandfather in WWI.

There was some comment on the group at the time and I repeat 
just a couple of things I wrote at the time which might help. If you 
search on "My Boy Jack"you should be able to get into the main 
discussions.

As someone else has commented, Rudyard Kipling's son was John
but John is very often turned into Jack. His father was the Poet 
Laureate and very close to the king and he was a very jingoistic 
speaker. The attitude of the country at the time was that young men 
should go to fight. Jack dearly wanted to go but was so very short-
sighted that he was turned down by about three medical boards
but badgered his father to pull strings to get him into training - 
which he did. He trained on the Western Front and on his first day
after his eighteenth birthday as a commissioned officer, he went 
over the top and was posted missing. Some time later, a colleague
reported to his parents that he had seen him killed. Despite modern
suggestions which have been questioned, his body was never found.

On 08/12/08, I wrote in post 38174: 
I have seen most of his output. I saw "My Boy Jack" last year but
haven't been able to watch the DVD. This is not his fault but the
fact that the story, a true one, was so gut-wrenching that I felt
moved to tears and the "men don't cry" syndrome led me to put
it back on the shelf each time I pick it up. But he did a good job.

I saw him in the London production of "Equus" and was greatly
enthused by the whole production - more than the film version
which I had previously watched.

Apart from Dan's acting ability, something that has impressed
me about so many of the young actors in the HP series - and in
other films involving younger people - is that, in interview, they
nearly all come over as grounded, sensible people with a clear
sense of their strengths and weaknesses. They often have the
knack of being able to laugh at themselves and realise how
fortunate they have been unlike some famous names who acquired
brattishness as they received fan acclaim and lost their charm and
sincerity as a result.

*****

Further to that comment, I did see the BBC "David Copperfield" in 
1999 way before he became known as Harry and was very impressed
by this young guy then. Interestingly, other actors in the production 
included Maggie Smith,  Zoe Wanamaker and Imelda Staunton. This 
has been shown twice in the very recent past and I've missed it. I
really will have to get the DVD!














From wildirishrose at fiber.net  Thu Dec 30 03:48:46 2010
From: wildirishrose at fiber.net (Marianne Hall)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 03:48:46 -0000
Subject: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> I saw a teeny clip from "My Boy Jack" in which Dan Radcliffe appears as the young Rudyard Kipling (why he's called Jack, I don't know--maybe because Rudyard is such an awful name). All I remember is that someone (his father?) thinks he's old enough to go off to war and that he looks like a young Hitler! Has anyone seen this film and is it worth seeing? Can Dan Radcliffe act well enough that the audience doesn't think of him as Harry Potter with a mustache?
> 
> Carol, wishing everyone who celebrates it a happy Christmas season (it's the fourth day of Christmas by my count)
>

I have the DVD.  It's all right.  Not great, but I like it enough for me to keep in my DVD collection.  It's nice to see Daniel to act in plays other than HP.  Too bad Equus won't come out on DVD.


Steve, where on earth do you live that you can actually see December Boys, Driving Lessons and Cherry bomb?  There's no way I could find those movies in a theater.

Marianne




From md at exit-reality.com  Thu Dec 30 05:01:38 2010
From: md at exit-reality.com (Child Of Midian)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 00:01:38 -0500
Subject: finally saw hp 7.0
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Unfortunately the only showtimes left where 6:45 and 10:00 --- so we went @
6:45 with the kids (girls 8 & 11) and had to sit in the second row, right on
top of the screen in one of the few theater rooms not equipped with a
digital projector. The image was often soft or out of focus and being 10
feet away you couldn't even take in the entire screen at once, it sucked.

The film, however, who cares about little changes it's hands down the best
in the series and it only makes me wish they would have shot all four of the
last books this way, or at least gave us extended dvds. When the story has a
little breathing room and the characters can actually talk it makes all the
difference. Can't wait until this time next year when all 5hrs can be
marathon(ed) on blu-ray.

m d




From jnoyl at aim.com  Thu Dec 30 05:56:05 2010
From: jnoyl at aim.com (J Lyon)
Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2010 21:56:05 -0800
Subject: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"
Message-ID: <CE15F27C5C194129B2DDEEC71EA2FE5F@WagsnPurrs>

Don?t forget that those crazy English think ?Jno? is a suitable nickname for ?John.?

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From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com  Thu Dec 30 07:59:51 2010
From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 07:59:51 -0000
Subject: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"
In-Reply-To: <CE15F27C5C194129B2DDEEC71EA2FE5F@WagsnPurrs>
Message-ID: <ifhe5n+s0th@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "J Lyon" <jnoyl at ...> wrote:
>
> Don???t forget that those crazy English think ???Jno??? is a suitable nickname for ???John.???

Geoff:
Your email software seems to have garbled your punctuation so I 
cannot understand what you are trying to say.

Try again?

Puzzled crazy Englishman.
:-(




From md at exit-reality.com  Thu Dec 30 08:16:58 2010
From: md at exit-reality.com (Child Of Midian)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 03:16:58 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"
In-Reply-To: <ifhe5n+s0th@eGroups.com>
References: <CE15F27C5C194129B2DDEEC71EA2FE5F@WagsnPurrs> <ifhe5n+s0th@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000601cba7f9$ee1c79d0$ca556d70$@com>

I got it clear through mine.

md

-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Geoff
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2010 3:00 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "J Lyon" <jnoyl at ...> wrote:
>
> Don???t forget that those crazy English think ???Jno??? is a suitable nickname for ???John.???

Geoff:
Your email software seems to have garbled your punctuation so I 
cannot understand what you are trying to say.

Try again?

Puzzled crazy Englishman.
:-(



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From annemehr at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 30 12:44:11 2010
From: annemehr at yahoo.com (annemehr)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 12:44:11 -0000
Subject: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Child Of Midian" <md at ...> wrote:
>
> I got it clear through mine.
> 
> md
> 

You're using Unicode characters instead of Western.  On the site it's garbled.  Of course it looks fine in your own email, because you're reading it in the style you typed it in.

Anyway, translation:

Don't forget that those crazy English think "Jno" is a suitable nickname
for "John."

I assume you meant "Jon."  But I don't know anyone who thinks it's a nickname for "John," it's short for "Jonathan."  Or even, nowadays for some reason, sometimes for "Jonathon" (which makes me think of a telethon for someone named Jonathan who's got some unfortunate disease).

Annemehr





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 30 15:42:07 2010
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 15:42:07 -0000
Subject: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"
In-Reply-To: <007584B2AD924B158FB0CB7E8C0D4200@Dobby>
Message-ID: <ifi98f+hpmf@eGroups.com>

[Steve B]:
> Jack is a common nickname for John. Though it seems somewhat  pointless, I can see Jim for James, or Bob for Robert, but 'Jack' and 'John' are the same length and one is no easier to say they [than] the other.
> 
> [Lee]:
> Perhaps Jack came up because the French Jacques is our John.  Just a possibility.


Carol responds to both:

I think Lee is right. However, the main reason that the English developed so many nicknames for names like John and Robert (and Elizabeth and many others) is that these names were so common. Some parents even gave the same first name to two living, legitimate children (not to mention giving the name of a dead child to a living one, the name of a father to a son or mother to a daughter, or the same name to a legitimate child and a "natural" one). The earls of Northumberland, for example, always named their first son Henry, so the name Henry Percy in that family traces back hundreds of years. So it's not that "John" was too long--obviously not--but that one John needed to be distinguished from another, so you get Johnny, Jack, and Jacky/Jackie. (For Elizabeth, you get Bet (now Beth), Betty, Bess, Bessie, Eliza, Liza, Lizzie, and so on.)

Just look at the royal families in England from the time of Edward the Confessor (one of the last Saxon kings) onward. Certain names keep recurring: William, Edward, Richard (until the Tudors destroyed Richard III's reputation), John (still the name of princes descended from the notorious King John into the fifteenth century), Henry, and after the Stuart line took over in England, James and Charles, with George joining the group with the Hanovers. (Edward IV and Richard III had a brother named George, Duke of Clarence, but it was an uncommon name then.) For women, the names Elizabeth, Isabel(la), Eleanor, Anne, Catherine, and Mary kept recurring. Once in a while, you get a Cecily, a Eustace (son of King Stephen disinherited by Henry II), or an Alfonso, but for the most part, it seems as if the English exercised their imagination in creating nicknames rather than in coming up with original names. Maybe the custom of naming a child after a godparent or a saint (or a parent) is responsible.

Carol, open to correction from anyone who happens to be English

P.S. to Lee re the five golden rings: Bet you didn't receive a partridge in a pear tree, either! <grin>





From kenadams705 at btinternet.com  Thu Dec 30 19:02:03 2010
From: kenadams705 at btinternet.com (KEN ADAMS)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:02:03 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"
In-Reply-To: <ifhuqr+6cc2@eGroups.com>
References: <ifhuqr+6cc2@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <652470.20596.qm@web87002.mail.ird.yahoo.com>

I knew an American once called Jon (nice guy), but am unfamiliar with its use in 
UK.

KEN



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From: annemehr <annemehr at yahoo.com>
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, 30 December, 2010 12:44:11
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"

? 


--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Child Of Midian" <md at ...> wrote:
>
> You're using Unicode characters instead of Western. On the site it's garbled. 
>Of course it looks fine in your own email, because you're reading it in the 
>style you typed it in.

Anyway, translation:

Don't forget that those crazy English think "Jno" is a suitable nickname
for "John."

I assume you meant "Jon." But I don't know anyone who thinks it's a nickname for 
"John," it's short for "Jonathan." Or even, nowadays for some reason, sometimes 
for "Jonathon" (which makes me think of a telethon for someone named Jonathan 
who's got some unfortunate disease).

Annemehr




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From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com  Thu Dec 30 20:39:34 2010
From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff)
Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 20:39:34 -0000
Subject: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"
In-Reply-To: <ifi98f+hpmf@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ifiqm6+v5an@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> [Steve B]:
> > Jack is a common nickname for John. Though it seems somewhat  pointless, I can see Jim for James, or Bob for Robert, but 'Jack' and 'John' are the same length and one is no easier to say they [than] the other.
> > 
> > [Lee]:
> > Perhaps Jack came up because the French Jacques is our John.  Just a possibility.
> 
> 
> Carol responds to both:
> 
> I think Lee is right. However, the main reason that the English developed so many nicknames for names like John and Robert (and Elizabeth and many others) is that these names were so common. 

Geoff:
"Nickname" isn't quite right. The names we are looking at are "family" or 
even "chum's" names.

Nicknames are not always related to the actual name but more to some 
characteristic. When I first came to live in South London when I was nine,
my nickname was "Scot"- because the Cockneys couldn't distinguish
between my natural dialect, which was from Lancashire and a Scottish 
accent! You'll meet people with nicknames Nobby, Lofty, Shorty, Titch
and so on.

"Jack" for some reason evokes an impression of a slightly quirkier and
mischievious person than a John..... Returning to a moment to Jon, 
again when I was young, Jonathan was a fairly unusual name, John being 
far more common. When it became a little familiar in ensuing years,
the form Johnathon was occasionally met, but the "h" rapidly dropped out 
and with the modern tendency to shorten a name where possible, Jon 
became very much a norm to distinguish it from the already short form John.
I personally hate being called by my full name Geoffrey, which was the 
province of my mother and the school secretary where I worked when
anything went wrong.
:-(

There are some odd regional variants,, particularly in Cockney where you
meet the forms Tel=Terry=Terence, Hal=Harry=Henry/Harold (Prince Hal
in Shakespeare), Sal=Sally=Sarah and so on. And then of course there is the 
oddity of William becoming Bill - and Bob has already been cited.









From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Fri Dec 31 18:49:14 2010
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2010 18:49:14 -0000
Subject: Dan Radcliffe in "My Boy Jack"... & Rupert
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Marianne Hall" <wildirishrose at ...> wrote:
>
 
>
> 
> I have the DVD.  It's all right.  Not great, but I like it enough for me to keep in my DVD collection.  It's nice to see Daniel to act in plays other than HP.  Too bad Equus won't come out on DVD.
> 
> 
> Steve, where on earth do you live that you can actually see December Boys, Driving Lessons and Cherry bomb?  There's no way I could find those movies in a theater.
> 
> Marianne
>

Driving Lessons did appear at the local independent film theater in Minneapolis (MN), I think I saw it twice in the same day. However, with gas prices are they are, a trip to the movies for one tends to run $50 or more, and that's a pretty expensive movie. 

When December Boys was being released, I weighed spending $50 or more to see it in the theater, though it never did show that I know of, or spending $20 on the DVD. The DVD won out.

I would LIKE to see Cherrybomb, but I doubt that it will ever play here. And given that I no longer drive by the theater everyday, if it did show, it is unlikely I would be aware of it. So, now once again, I weigh getting the DVD. 

Now living in a small town, even Academy Award nominated movie don't play here. If it isn't generic Hollywood blockbuster fair, it doesn't see the light of day out here on the great frozen tundra. 

Steve/bboyminn