From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  2 16:14:55 2010
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:14:55 -0000
Subject: MOVIES
In-Reply-To: <4B1C77F1.00005A.02996@D8DXG9G1>
Message-ID: <hhnrdv+lp4f@eGroups.com>

Marianne wrote:
> Saturday ABCFAM channel, or something channel like that, showed SS, CS, PA and GOF. In the next couple of weeks HBP is going to be shown.
> 
> What I want to know is why didn't they show OFTP? I find that strange.

Carol responds:

You mean OOTP, right? Took me a moment to understand what you were referring to. BTW, Comcast's Pay per View is showing HBP, but I don't want to pay to see it on TV. I thought that the DVD was selling somewhere for $10.00, but I have yet to see it for less than $19.99.

Carol, wishing anyone who cares about such things a happy ninth day of Christmas




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  2 16:18:35 2010
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:18:35 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, TOO LATE
In-Reply-To: <4B2FD3B8.5080304@rescueddoggies.com>
Message-ID: <hhnrkr+k1p0@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Brian <brian at ...> wrote:
>
> Replying  to
>  >  Notes:
> Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour.
> 
> 
> NO it doesn't, because you've ignored my previous appeals and are still sending out the notices too late for anyone who gets messages in "digest" Yahoo allows two alerts.Why not set the other 36 hours before so we get reminded BEFORE the chat?
> 
> Brian
>
Carol: 
And please send them only once, if possible, since they do take up space in the e-mail of people who receive their messages that way. :-)

Carol, who reads hers online but still marks every message as "read"




From md at exit-reality.com  Sat Jan  2 16:27:03 2010
From: md at exit-reality.com (Child Of Midian)
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 11:27:03 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: MOVIES
In-Reply-To: <hhnrdv+lp4f@eGroups.com>
References: <4B1C77F1.00005A.02996@D8DXG9G1> <hhnrdv+lp4f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <000901ca8bc8$6b290190$417b04b0$@com>

A

-----Original Message-----
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
[mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of justcarol67
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:15 AM
To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: MOVIES

Marianne wrote:
> Saturday ABCFAM channel, or something channel like that, showed SS, CS, PA
and GOF. In the next couple of weeks HBP is going to be shown.
> 
> What I want to know is why didn't they show OFTP? I find that strange.

Carol responds:

You mean OOTP, right? 



------------------------------------
OOTP has not yet made it to commercial television like ABC, it's still a
pay-cable feature, that's why they didn't show it. Movies have contracts, so
many months from theater to video to pay-tv to commercial tv.

md




From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sat Jan  2 18:56:18 2010
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 2 Jan 2010 18:56:18 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 1/3/2010, 1:00 pm 
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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Tue Jan  5 05:43:46 2010
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 5 Jan 2010 05:43:46 -0000
Subject: Birthday Reminder 
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Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group
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Happy Birthday, Ms Tattersall
Tuesday January 5, 2010
All Day
(This event repeats every year.)

Notes:
*scurries quickly around the room, clearing up the remnants of a New Year's Party and hastily hanging birthday decorations*

Is everyone recovered enough from all the holiday festivities to start this year's round of birthday parties? Do I hear a small voice in the back saying "No"?!

Today's birthday honouree is Ms Tattersall. Birthday owls can be sent care of this list or directly to: cwood at tattersallpub.com

Nibblies are on the side table and drinks are, of course, at the bar. Please remember to leave some cake for the birthday honouree!

Wishing you a good start to the New Year and a magical bithday.

Happy Birthday, Ms Tattersall!

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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Wed Jan  6 05:44:25 2010
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 6 Jan 2010 05:44:25 -0000
Subject: Birthday Reminder 
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Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group
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Happy Birthday, Carole and Carolyn!
Wednesday January 6, 2010
All Day
(This event repeats every year.)

Notes:
*clears the tables and straightens the decorations, adding more streamers for good measure*

You all did a good job of helping celebrate the first birthday of the year. Ready for more? I hope so, because today we have two!

Today's birthday honourees are Carole and Carolyn. Birthday owls can be send care of this list or directly to Carole at: siriusgeologist at yahoo.com and to Carolyn at: carolynwhite2 at aol.com

Help yourself to nibblies and drinks and don't be shy about taking a turn on the dance floor. Just keep the music down so that off-duty List Elves can sleep. :)

I hope both of you have wonderful days, full of magic.

Happy Birthday, Carole!
Happy Birthday, Carolyn!

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From hpfgu.elves at gmail.com  Thu Jan  7 23:24:31 2010
From: hpfgu.elves at gmail.com (hpfgu_elves)
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:24:31 -0000
Subject: ADMIN: Discussion about possible changes to the HPfGU groups
Message-ID: <hi5qff+95h3@eGroups.com>


Hello, everyone--

It's been proposed that since all the groups have become
quite slow, we should consider condensing them into one
group again, the main list. Initially there was only
HPforGrownups and in addition to canon discussion,
off-topic discussion and movie discussion happened there,
as well. As the group got busier, it was decided that
those topics should be moved to their own groups. Now
that the groups are so much slower lately, it's been
suggested that they be recombined into the one group
again.

We would like to know what members think about something
like this. Please come to the Feedback group and let us
know how you feel:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPfGU-Feedback

The List Elves




From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Fri Jan  8 17:13:04 2010
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (bboyminn)
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 17:13:04 -0000
Subject: Consolidating All the Groups Into One
Message-ID: <hi7p30+8unb@eGroups.com>

I've already left a post in the HPFGU-Feedback, but I think it
is worth posting here to.

I think, given that the post count is very low now, merging
books and movies into one discussion group would be fine. I 
mean, books or movies, it is still all about HP.

But I don't like the idea of merging the OTChatter group. This
is a group of friend who have a common interest, people I trust,
that I can ask anything -

"Why does my computer make this funny noise?"

"Anybody got a good recipe for Macaroni and Cheeze?"

"How can I lose 10 pounds by Sunday?"

But, even if it was allowed, I wouldn't feel comfortable 
posting such questions in the main group even if it were
allowed.

Also, by allowing OTChatter in the main group, you run the 
risk of turning the group in to a general discussion group. 
The HP aspect will get completely lost. 

So, I think it is worth while to merge HP books with HP movies,
but valuable to keep OTChatter as a separate discussion group.

Steve/bboyminn 






From n2fgc at arrl.net  Fri Jan  8 18:17:23 2010
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force))
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 13:17:23 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Consolidating All the Groups Into One
In-Reply-To: <hi7p30+8unb@eGroups.com>
References: <hi7p30+8unb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <4BB448AAECB742BFB08F6CB09CF46C3A@FRODO>

[bboyminn]:
| I think, given that the post count is very low now, merging
| books and movies into one discussion group would be fine. I 
| mean, books or movies, it is still all about HP.
| 
| But I don't like the idea of merging the OTChatter group. This
| is a group of friend who have a common interest, people I trust,
| that I can ask anything -
| 
| "Why does my computer make this funny noise?"
| 
| "Anybody got a good recipe for Macaroni and Cheese?"
| 
| "How can I lose 10 pounds by Sunday?"
| 
| But, even if it was allowed, I wouldn't feel comfortable 
| posting such questions in the main group even if it were
| allowed.
| 
| Also, by allowing OTChatter in the main group, you run the 
| risk of turning the group in to a general discussion group. 
| The HP aspect will get completely lost. 
| 
| So, I think it is worth while to merge HP books with HP movies,
| but valuable to keep OTChatter as a separate discussion group.

[Lee]:
My thoughts exactly, guys and gals.

As I posted in the feedback list, there's more intimacy here.  I've looked
through posts I've saved and never cease to be deeply touched at how the
members here rallied around those who needed uplifting because of illness,
depression, surgery, other life troubles.  We had members to advise as to
computer problems, where to find things, ideas for Potter Parties and
crafts, etc., and just a whole lot of other stuff.

If we had a small population, the merging of the OT Chat with everything
else would be okay.  But given the size of our list base, it's better to
keep OTChat and Main separate.

Peace,

Lee :-)

Do not walk behind me,    | Lee Storm
I may not care to lead;   | N2FGC
Do not walk before me,    | n2fgc at arrl.net (or)
I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net
Walk beside me, and be my friend.




From minnesotatiffany at hotmail.com  Fri Jan  8 19:39:33 2010
From: minnesotatiffany at hotmail.com (Tiffany B. Clark)
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:39:33 -0000
Subject: Consolidating All the Groups Into One
In-Reply-To: <hi7p30+8unb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hi81ll+4l60@eGroups.com>

bboyminn:
>
> I've already left a post in the HPFGU-Feedback, but I think it
> is worth posting here to.
> 
> I think, given that the post count is very low now, merging
> books and movies into one discussion group would be fine. I 
> mean, books or movies, it is still all about HP.
> 
> But I don't like the idea of merging the OTChatter group. This
> is a group of friend who have a common interest, people I trust,
> that I can ask anything -
> 
> "Why does my computer make this funny noise?"
> 
> "Anybody got a good recipe for Macaroni and Cheeze?"
> 
> "How can I lose 10 pounds by Sunday?"
> 
> But, even if it was allowed, I wouldn't feel comfortable 
> posting such questions in the main group even if it were
> allowed.
> 
> Also, by allowing OTChatter in the main group, you run the 
> risk of turning the group in to a general discussion group. 
> The HP aspect will get completely lost. 
> 
> So, I think it is worth while to merge HP books with HP movies,
> but valuable to keep OTChatter as a separate discussion group.
> 
> Steve/bboyminn

Tiffany:

My thoughts are on the issue twofold depending on the outcome.  Number One is to keep the main list open to anything related to Harry Potter & keep OTC open to anything not about Harry Potter, in case only the main list & movies list get combined.  Number Two is in case, OTC does get closed as well as the movies list, then it's best to make the main list open to anyting about Harry Potter, but have the rules clearly state either on the homepage or in the list rules file that no OT posts are allowed.  Any of those 2 options would be perfectly fine with me when the list elves decide on what to do with the groups.




From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk  Fri Jan  8 19:57:59 2010
From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff)
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 19:57:59 -0000
Subject: Consolidating All the Groups Into One
In-Reply-To: <hi7p30+8unb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hi82o7+prcl@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "bboyminn" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
>
Steve/bboyminn
> I've already left a post in the HPFGU-Feedback, but I think it
> is worth posting here to.
> 
> I think, given that the post count is very low now, merging
> books and movies into one discussion group would be fine. I 
> mean, books or movies, it is still all about HP.
> 
> But I don't like the idea of merging the OTChatter group. 

<snip>

> So, I think it is worth while to merge HP books with HP movies,
> but valuable to keep OTChatter as a separate discussion group.

Geoff:
I incline to the same view as have several other contributors, 
I know that many of us visit both groups; I spent many years 
just posting to Main but more recently have spent a lot more 
time on OT. It is also true that there are often Main-related 
posts because a thread goes OT but we want to follow it up.

I know that the suggestion partly because of the low posting 
rate. During December, OTC went for a fortnight with only two 
posts - and these were weekly chat reminders - but the most 
noticeable was Movie which did not have a single post between 
20th September and 9th December. 

I think that this compromise suggestion does carry a lot of weight.




From brian at rescueddoggies.com  Sat Jan  9 16:31:41 2010
From: brian at rescueddoggies.com (Brian)
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 13:31:41 -0300
Subject: Consolidating All the Groups Into One
Message-ID: <4B48AF6D.2020303@rescueddoggies.com>

replying to
"Why does my computer make this funny noise?"

You mean yours does too?

Seriously, I agree with what you've said. OT should remain OT.

I'd be interested in what others think about topics on HP fanfiction though.
To me, they don't feel right in OT and when OT is more active, get 
swamped anyway.
They probably don't belong in a group as strict as the HP main group either
A separate group maybe?

But I def think movies should merge with main.  Let's face it, there 
aren't any more books now... unless you know differently...?

Brian



From catlady at wicca.net  Sat Jan  9 17:52:46 2010
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince)
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:52:46 -0000
Subject: Consolidating All the Groups Into One
In-Reply-To: <hi7p30+8unb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hiafpe+lshl@eGroups.com>

Steve bboyminn wrote in <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/40224>:

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "bboyminn" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:

> But I don't like the idea of merging the OTChatter group. 

Finally, there is something that I disagree with you about.

> This
> is a group of friend who have a common interest, people I trust,
> that I can ask anything -
> "Why does my computer make this funny noise?"
> "Anybody got a good recipe for Macaroni and Cheeze?"
> "How can I lose 10 pounds by Sunday?"
> 
> But, even if it was allowed, I wouldn't feel comfortable 
> posting such questions in the main group even if it were
> allowed.

People asked those questions on Main List until they were banned. Do you think you could become comfortable asking those questions on Main List again if someone else went first?
> 
> Also, by allowing OTChatter in the main group, you run the 
> risk of turning the group in to a general discussion group. 
> The HP aspect will get completely lost. 

That didn't happen before when Main List was allowed to have OT.





From catlady at wicca.net  Sat Jan  9 17:57:01 2010
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince)
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 17:57:01 -0000
Subject: Consolidating All the Groups Into One
In-Reply-To: <4B48AF6D.2020303@rescueddoggies.com>
Message-ID: <hiag1d+l61k@eGroups.com>

Brian wrote in <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/40228>:

> I'd be interested in what others think about topics on HP fanfiction
> though. To me, they don't feel right in OT and when OT is more 
> active, get swamped anyway. They probably don't belong in a group as
> strict as the HP main group either

The people who manage Fanfiction boards would probably prefer that we discuss fanfiction on the same boards where we read it.

We used to discuss fanfiction on Main List, which originally did *not* have strict rules of on-topic. I think fanfiction should be allowed back on Main List even if the spin-off lists are not spun back in. The argument some people used to make that they did not want their impression of Rowling's creation to contaminated by impressions from fanfic until canon was closed is now obsolete.






From catlady at wicca.net  Sat Jan  9 18:03:07 2010
From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince)
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:03:07 -0000
Subject: Consolidating All the Groups Into One
In-Reply-To: <hi81ll+4l60@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hiagcr+563f@eGroups.com>

"Tiffany B. Clark" <minnesotatiffany at ...> wrote in <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/message/40226>:
> 
> My thoughts are on the issue twofold depending on the outcome.  Number One is to keep the main list open to anything related to Harry Potter & keep OTC open to anything not about Harry Potter, in case only the main list & movies list get combined.  Number Two is in case, OTC does get closed as well as the movies list, then it's best to make the main list open to anyting about Harry Potter, but have the rules clearly state either on the homepage or in the list rules file that no OT posts are allowed.  Any of those 2 options would be perfectly fine with me when the list elves decide on what to do with the groups.
>

Your preferences are pretty much opposite to mine. My biggest concern about combining the groups is that the Combined Group might be overwhelmed by movie discussions, in which I do not participate because I don't know anything about actors, directors, effects, and so on. Having heard that the Movie List has also become low volume somewhat alleviates my fear.

My biggest desire is that posts on Main List should be allowed to be OT, because so often a thought that started from canon leads to real-world ideas (like the current thread on whether TMR is a psychopath leading to discussion on DSM-IV). That is what I wish for, regardless whether OT also continues to exist as a separate group.





From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sat Jan  9 18:50:28 2010
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (bboyminn)
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 18:50:28 -0000
Subject: Consolidating All the Groups Into One
In-Reply-To: <hiagcr+563f@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hiaj5k+ta1f@eGroups.com>



---  "Catlady (Rita Prince" <catlady at ...> wrote:
>
> ...
> 
> ...
> 
> My biggest desire is that posts on Main List should be allowed to be OT, because so often a thought that started from canon leads to real-world ideas (like the current thread on whether TMR is a psychopath leading to discussion on DSM-IV). That is what I wish for, regardless whether OT also continues to exist as a separate group.
>

bboyminn:

I think things that are clearly OT topics should stay on OT, 
but it seems fair that now that the discussion load is so low
that OT tangents be allowed or policed less strictly in the 
Main group. 

As an example, I think a discussion on whether Voldemort is 
a psychopath that in turn leads to a discussion of exactly 
what constitutes a psychopath would be sufficiently related 
to the central theme to be allowed as long as the discussion
stays within certain reasonable bounds and stays civil. 

I would classify that as a tangential discussion, it relates
back to characters in the book though it is off on a side 
topic. And, it is a side topic that needs to be resolved
in order to carry on the discussion of, in this case, a
given character. But, I really do think it is sufficiently 
related that it would be a valid subject for discussion as 
long as the impetus for the discussion relates back to a 
character or situation in the books or movies. 

It would be up to the MODS to decide whether a topic that
has strayed is still related to the books, or if it has gone
completely and thoroughly off-topic. 

Now that there is no real need to control the post count, I
think more leniency in the range of topics can be allowed. 

So, I guess I sort of agree with you. Though I think clear
off-topic general discussion remain in the OT group. The 
OT group is more random discussion about virtually any topic
by a group of like minded people. There are general topics
like 'How do I make my computer do this or that?' that are
not even remotely tangential to the HP theme, so putting
them in the Main group would be a clear violation of the
purpose of the group.  

Just my opinion. 

Steve/bboyminn





From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sat Jan  9 18:55:29 2010
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 9 Jan 2010 18:55:29 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 1/10/2010, 1:00 pm 
Message-ID: <1263063329.8.23786.m4@yahoogroups.com>

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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jan 10 17:55:36 2010
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 10 Jan 2010 17:55:36 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 1/10/2010, 1:00 pm 
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Weekly Chat
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From brian at rescueddoggies.com  Sun Jan 10 20:39:37 2010
From: brian at rescueddoggies.com (Brian)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 17:39:37 -0300
Subject: Weekly Chat, 1/10/2010, 1:00 pm
Message-ID: <4B4A3B09.8080506@rescueddoggies.com>

Just my luck.  You got the message to me in time and a thunderstorm 
knocked out my connection till forty minutes too late!

Brian





From kadedeetje at skynet.be  Sun Jan 10 22:53:33 2010
From: kadedeetje at skynet.be (Ka)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 22:53:33 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 1/10/2010, 1:00 pm
In-Reply-To: <4B4A3B09.8080506@rescueddoggies.com>
Message-ID: <hidlpd+k5bt@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Brian <brian at ...> wrote:
>
> Just my luck.  You got the message to me in time and a thunderstorm 
> knocked out my connection till forty minutes too late!
> 
> Brian
>

Hi Brian

It's over two hours after you've posted this mail and I just checked ... The chat session isn't limited to just the one hour, yolandacarroll who initiates these chats usually stays around for 4-5 hours. As a matter of fact she is still there now. She'll post when she arrives and when she leaves. It is always best to have a quick look around.




From terrianking at aol.com  Mon Jan 11 00:30:27 2010
From: terrianking at aol.com (terrianking at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:30:27 EST
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re:Weekly Chat, 1/10/2010, 1:00 pm
Message-ID: <86e8.7f458498.387bcb23@aol.com>



In a message dated 1/10/2010 5:05:07 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
kadedeetje at skynet.be writes:

 
 


--- In _HPFGU-OTChatter at HPFGU-OTChatHPF_ 
(mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) ,  Brian <brian at ...> wrote:
>
> Just my luck. You got the  message to me in time and a thunderstorm 
> knocked out my connection  till forty minutes too late!
> 
> Brian
>

Hi  Brian

It's over two hours after you've posted this mail and I just  checked ... 
The chat session isn't limited to just the one hour,  yolandacarroll who 
initiates these chats usually stays around for 4-5 hours.  As a matter of fact 
she is still there now. She'll post when she arrives and  when she leaves. It 
is always best to have a quick look  around.





Robert:


Yes, these chats go on all afternoon and  evening.


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]




From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Thu Jan 14 14:55:08 2010
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 14 Jan 2010 14:55:08 -0000
Subject: Birthday Reminder 
Message-ID: <1263480908.23.85687.m4@yahoogroups.com>

Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group
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Happy Birthday, Mike!
Thursday January 14, 2010
12:00 pm - 12:00 am
(This event repeats every year.)

Notes:
*a cold and shivering Birthday Elf clad in a fur-line pillowcase pops out of a nearby snowbank*

If I can trudge through the snowbanks for this party, so can the rest of you! I know that Mike would trudge, or at least drive, through snow for us. *waves at Mike and is sorry to be flying over him this year and not riding a bus through town*

Today's birthday honouree is Mike. Birthday owls can be sent care of this list or directly to: mcrudele78 at yahoo.com

*starts putting a line of bubbling, smoking drinks on the bar*

Nibblies are over there on the side table. Yes, I know the cake looks like it will topple over but, trust me, it won't. :)

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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Fri Jan 15 05:43:21 2010
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 15 Jan 2010 05:43:21 -0000
Subject: Happy Birthday, Heidi, 1/15/2010, 12:00 am 
Message-ID: <1263534201.19.30525.m5@yahoogroups.com>

Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group
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Happy Birthday, Heidi
Friday January 15, 2010
All Day
(This event repeats every year.)

Notes:
*surveys the party room and scratches head*

There's something missing here... I know!

*scurries out and returns with a box overflowing with pink decorations*

Today's birthday honouree is Heidi. Birthday owls can be sent care of this list or directly to: heidi8 at gmail.com

Nibblies and drinks are on the side table. The music is cued up for those wishing to take a turn on the dancefloor. Hmmm.. something's missing. I know!

*pops out and reappears with a towering pink cake, complete with edible pink sparkles*

I hope you have a wonderful birthday, filled with friends, family and much LUSH goodness.

Happy Birthday, Heidi!

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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sat Jan 16 18:55:35 2010
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Date: 16 Jan 2010 18:55:35 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 1/17/2010, 1:00 pm 
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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jan 17 05:40:08 2010
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Date: 17 Jan 2010 05:40:08 -0000
Subject: Happy Birthday, Melbaluna!, 1/17/2010, 12:00 am 
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Happy Birthday, Melbaluna!
Sunday January 17, 2010
All Day
(This event repeats every year.)

Notes:
*a tired elf pulls down some of the abundant pink streamers and replaces them with multi-coloured lights*

There, that looks festive!

What are you folks waiting for? Come on in. Drinks are being poured freely at the bar and platters of nibblies await on the side tables.

Today's birthday honouree is Melbaluna. Birthday owls can be sent care of this list or directly to: holmesclan2002 at yahoo.com

Oh, we can't forget this!

*pops out and quickly reappears with a towering cake*

There, now we're set.

I hope you day is filled with good friends, good food and everything magical.

Happy Birthday, Melbaluna!

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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jan 17 17:57:16 2010
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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sat Jan 23 18:55:30 2010
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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sun Jan 24 17:56:54 2010
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From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 24 19:42:01 2010
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 19:42:01 -0000
Subject: Consolidating All the Groups Into One
In-Reply-To: <hi7p30+8unb@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hji7q9+gab1@eGroups.com>

"bboyminn" wrote:
>
> I've already left a post in the HPFGU-Feedback, but I think it is worth posting here to.
> 
> I think, given that the post count is very low now, merging books and movies into one discussion group would be fine. I mean, books or movies, it is still all about HP.
> 
> But I don't like the idea of merging the OTChatter group. This is a group of friend who have a common interest, people I trust, that I can ask anything - <snip>
>
Carol responds:
I've already posted at Feedback, too, and at the Movie group, which, I think, is in most danger of being killed off. I doubt that the List Elves will shut down OTC for two reasons: It's the most active group at the moment, and it isn't really HP related most of the time, and allowing OT posts on Main would make a lie of the group name. Harry Potter for Grown-ups is just that. We go to Main to discuss Harry Potter.

I for one don't want the film and book groups to merge, but I especially don't want OT and Main to merge. Do people really want me posting my fruitcake recipe on Main (perhaps pretending that it's something that the House Elves ought to serve at Christmastime) or talking about my adventures yesterday with a blown fuse that caused a loud explosion so much smoke that I had to call the fire department, pretending that it somehow relates to the havoc that Neville causes in Potions class?

Let's keep the groups separate. It's logical and sensible and it works just fine as is.

Carol, wearing as many layers of clothing as Dobby wears hats in a futile effort to keep warm




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sun Jan 24 19:56:00 2010
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 19:56:00 -0000
Subject: Consolidating All the Groups Into One
In-Reply-To: <4B48AF6D.2020303@rescueddoggies.com>
Message-ID: <hji8kg+2cqt@eGroups.com>

Brian wrote:

> Seriously, I agree with what you've [Steve] said. OT should remain OT.
> 
Carol responds:
Amen.

Brian:
> I'd be interested in what others think about topics on HP fanfiction though. To me, they don't feel right in OT and when OT is more active, get swamped anyway. They probably don't belong in a group as strict as the HP main group either A separate group maybe?

Carol responds:
I don't think that anyone is proposing allowing fanfics themselves on OT, just allowing them as permissible topics, as they already are. A separate group for fanfic seems contrary to what the List Elves are proposing, which is consolidating the groups (or at least closing the Movie group). 

Brian:
> But I def think movies should merge with main.  Let's face it, there aren't any more books now... unless you know differently...?

Carol responds:

I've already given my reasons for disagreeing, especially since we have two more films coming and the Movie group will become active again when trailers and movie news, especially still shots, start popping up all over the Internet. The films are so different from the books (burning the Burrow, for example) that they're almost an alternate HP universe. Where was the Half-Blood Prince (Snape and Teen!Severus) in the so-called HBP film? They're two separate subjects, as different as the book "Oliver Twist" and the musical "Oliver!"

As for more books, there's the promised encyclopedia. I also hope we'll see revised editions, with at least minor inconsistencies cleared up.

Carol, who does not want to mix apples and oranges (books and films), much less apples and the beef-stew conglomeration that is OTC




From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk  Sun Jan 24 21:05:44 2010
From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 2010 21:05:44 -0000
Subject: Consolidating All the Groups Into One
In-Reply-To: <hji8kg+2cqt@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <hjicn8+1dd2@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:

Carol:
 
> I've already given my reasons for disagreeing, especially since we have two more films coming and the Movie group will become active again when trailers and movie news, especially still shots, start popping up all over the Internet. The films are so different from the books (burning the Burrow, for example) that they're almost an alternate HP universe. Where was the Half-Blood Prince (Snape and Teen!Severus) in the so-called HBP film? They're two separate subjects, as different as the book "Oliver Twist" and the musical "Oliver!"

Geoff:
The following is a message I posted on Feedback, repeated here for reference.

I came to the HP books via the films andso  am familiar with both. There 
have been times in the past when I have tried to bring forward comparisons 
for the sake of pointing up canon and having to resort to the hackneyed 
phrasing"If I might be allowed to refer to 'the medium which dare not 
speak its name'.

I agree that some of the film "modifications" are questionable. For example, 
what has considerably irritated me in HBP is the elevation of Ginny to a kind of 
Wonderwoman figure leaping to Harry's aid which on occasions makes the 
latter guy look a bit of a wuss as well as creating storyline distortions out of
which the last two films will have to wriggle. Plus the pointless extra scenes 
such as the well-discussed attack on The Burrow and the episode at the 
railway station when Dumbledore appears to take Harry to Slughorn's.

However, I would think that in a combined group, context would indicate to 
the well-rounded HP fan which medium was being referred to. As I have said 
more than once, anything which does not refer to canon of the actual films 
should be passed to OTC.

Changing tack slightly, it has been suggested that there might be a poll of
members about this. If there was such an event, we wold then have to decide
whether sufficient of the membership had voted to give a clear view and 
whether any such poll, if it were to take place, would be mandatory or 
merely advisory. So, we have a number of different and conflicting paths 
to consider.

"Go not to the Elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes",
(Frodo, "Three is Company" LOTR:FOTR)
:-(




From brian at rescueddoggies.com  Mon Jan 25 14:32:02 2010
From: brian at rescueddoggies.com (Brian)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:32:02 -0300
Subject: Consolidating All the Groups Into One
Message-ID: <4B5DAB62.4060800@rescueddoggies.com>

As you've seen in my latest posts in movies and admin, I've changed my mind.
I think movies are better separate.

We are between movies, of course it's quiet.
And does it matter if it is, for a while?

Consolidating groups will also lose all the movie group archives.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it

Brian





From alexisnguyen at gmail.com  Mon Jan 25 15:56:50 2010
From: alexisnguyen at gmail.com (P. Alexis Nguyen)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 10:56:50 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Consolidating All the Groups Into One
In-Reply-To: <hji7q9+gab1@eGroups.com>
References: <hi7p30+8unb@eGroups.com> <hji7q9+gab1@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <b6e131bf1001250756w1b921704t2fd86e80b6a27cc0@mail.gmail.com>

Carol responds:
I for one don't want the film and book groups to merge, but I
especially don't want OT and Main to merge. Do people really want me
posting my fruitcake recipe on Main (perhaps pretending that it's
something that the House Elves ought to serve at Christmastime) or
talking about my adventures yesterday with a blown fuse that caused a
loud explosion so much smoke that I had to call the fire department,
pretending that it somehow relates to the havoc that Neville causes in
Potions class?

Ali:
Just chiming in to say I agree with this sentiment.  I'd be sad to
miss out on Carol's fruitcake (which I am determined to make some this
year ... maybe I'll get a head start this weekend ...) but would be
very turned off to see it on the main list.  I like Steve's earlier
suggestion about making the rules less strict about tangential topics
on the big list, but I'd miss OTC - for one, I would have never
discovered Jim Butcher without OTC!!!


> Carol, wearing as many layers of clothing as Dobby wears hats in a futile effort to keep warm

Ali:
Blegh.  It's warm-ish here, but we're trapped under a deluge or rain.
The sky keeps falling and falling.  Anyone else enjoying this lovely
NE weather?

~Ali, who thinks that nothing is broken about the lists right now and
thus nothing should be fixed



From gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk  Mon Jan 25 20:58:02 2010
From: gbannister10 at tiscali.co.uk (Geoff)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:58:02 -0000
Subject: Consolidating All the Groups Into One
In-Reply-To: <4B5DAB62.4060800@rescueddoggies.com>
Message-ID: <hjl0kq+8au0@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Brian <brian at ...> wrote:

Brian:
 
> Consolidating groups will also lose all the movie group archives.

Geoff:
Will they?

"HPforGrownups-Archives" is a site that houses old archived messages 
for the Yahoo Club "Harry Potter for Grownups". So why couldn't a group 
which merged archive its posts?





From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sat Jan 30 18:55:20 2010
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 30 Jan 2010 18:55:20 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 1/31/2010, 1:00 pm 
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From caliburst at cox.net  Sun Jan 31 00:43:37 2010
From: caliburst at cox.net (Eric Bowling)
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 16:43:37 -0800
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Weekly Chat, 1/31/2010, 1:00 pm
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I am sorry to inform you that my son Eric passed away on 12-26-09.  Please pass this along to those who were in Eric's loop.  This was a devastating loss to our family.  Eric was totally dedicated to the Harry Potter family and the many friends he acquired as the result of Harry Potter functions.

Thank you, Ray Bowling and family.