From onlygoofy at yahoo.com Fri Oct 1 16:19:32 2010 From: onlygoofy at yahoo.com (onlygoofy) Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2010 16:19:32 -0000 Subject: TV SHOW REQUEST/ RESEARCH Message-ID: ---> In HPforGrownups@ yahoogroups. com, "STACEY" >stacey_altman at yahoo.com wrote: >Hi Potter fans! >I am new to the group am doing research-- as well as being a HP >fan! My name is Stacey Altman, I'm a TV producer and developing >a new show for the Discovery Networks (you can look me up on IMDB >to see I'm legit!) I was hoping you could help me and perhaps >know of some people that might be a good fit for this show. I am >developing a new reality show that focuses on married couples >where the husband has a strong passion or hobby, and the wife is >not exactly thrilled about. The show, with the help of an expert, >gets them on the same page. It's a feel good, fun type of reality >show that follows the couples journey. Husbands with passion for >Harry Potter, Star War, collectibles, comics or superheros, etc. >would be perfect for this show. I attached the casting link >below. Let em know your thoughts and if you have any suggestions >for me, or could post this, etc. >Thanks for your help. >All the best, >Stacey Altman >Executive Producer >DO YOU LOVE TO PLAY VIDEO GAMES, HAVE A HARRY POTTER OR STAR WARS >OBSESSION OR COLLECT COMIC BOOKS? MAJOR CABLE NETWORK CASTING NOW >FOR MARRIED COUPLES WITH HUSBANDS THAT HAVE A "YOUTHFUL SPIRIT!" >Does your wife constantly nag that you are spending hours too many >playing video games, or involved in every fantasy football league? >Do you love to read the comic books on-end, or go to Trekkie >conventions? Do you wish you could prove to your wife that your >childish ways are the RIGHT way and she should just accept it and >join in the fun? Let us help you referee your issues! We are casting >for a reality show where an expert helps squabbling couples come to >terms with their inner kid. We are searching for outgoing and >opinionated married couples that have a long-standing argument or >issue that must be resolved. No problem is too small or too strange! >The series examines and tells the story of couples from their own >voice and narrative. We are looking for couples with compelling >stories of all types. >Interested people should email: nycproducer123@ gmail.com . Please >include your name, age, location, contact #'s and a description >about your story and current situation with your spouse. Jenn now: I checked into this & it seems legit. Anyways she wasn't interested in the reverse couple situation, where the wife is the "problem" & the husband needs to learn to have some fun! Good luck to anyone submitting! From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sat Oct 2 17:56:50 2010 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 2 Oct 2010 17:56:50 -0000 Subject: Weekly Chat, 10/3/2010, 1:00 pm Message-ID: <1286042210.13.60635.m3@yahoogroups.com> Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/cal Weekly Chat Sunday October 3, 2010 1:00 pm - 2:00 pm (This event repeats every week.) (The next reminder for this event will be sent in 23 hours, 3 minutes.) Location: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Notes: Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour. To get to the HPfGU room follow this link: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want to be called. Enter the password: hpfguchat Click "Join Chat" on the lower right. Chat start times: 11 am Pacific US 12 noon Mountain US 1 pm Central US 2 pm Eastern US 7 pm UK All Rights Reserved Copyright 2010 Yahoo! 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Chat start times: 11 am Pacific US 12 noon Mountain US 1 pm Central US 2 pm Eastern US 7 pm UK All Rights Reserved Copyright 2010 Yahoo! Inc. http://www.yahoo.com Privacy Policy: http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us Terms of Service: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wildirishrose at fiber.net Fri Oct 8 04:38:10 2010 From: wildirishrose at fiber.net (wildirishrose) Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 22:38:10 -0600 Subject: Three Harry Potter Movies, Alice In Wonderland & Sweeney Todd Message-ID: <6A502B8338C34626ADD3BA2476C0E513@Marianne> I said this once, and I'll say this again. My G** Alan Rickman is in some dark movies. When it was said Sweeney Todd was dark and bloody, they weren't lying. Strangely enough, I liked it. This is the first time I watched Sweeney Todd and I recognized Timothy Spall. I knew Helena Bonham Carter and Alan Rickman starred in it. Never realized Timothy Spall. Forget Johnny Depp. Although Johnny Depp is just plain weird. Alan Rickman, Helena Bonham Carter and Timothy Spall does it all. I'm sure the movie sets were interesting with those three there. They get around in the movie business, don't they? Marianne "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." Dr. Hunter S. Thompson [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From zanooda2 at yahoo.com Fri Oct 8 06:45:04 2010 From: zanooda2 at yahoo.com (zanooda2) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 06:45:04 -0000 Subject: Divination book title Message-ID: Hi guys, I have a question: one of the Divination books Harry notices at Flourish and Blotts in PoA is called "Broken Balls: When the Fortunes Turn Foul". I'd like to find out what the expression "broken balls" means here. Are they crystal balls? Or some, er, different kind of balls :-)? This is needed for a translation. Can anyone help me with that? Thanks :-). From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com Fri Oct 8 07:50:43 2010 From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 07:50:43 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "zanooda2" wrote: > > Hi guys, I have a question: one of the Divination books Harry notices at Flourish and Blotts in PoA is called "Broken Balls: When the Fortunes Turn Foul". I'd like to find out what the expression "broken balls" means here. Are they crystal balls? Or some, er, different kind of balls :-)? This is needed for a translation. Can anyone help me with that? Thanks :-). Geoff: I'll put my money on crystal balls. They are traditionally associated with fortune telling. I don't think that Flourish and Blotts would deal with, "er, different kinds of balls". :-) From kempermentor at yahoo.com Fri Oct 8 13:57:40 2010 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 13:57:40 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > zanooda: > > Hi guys, I have a question: one of the Divination books Harry notices at Flourish and Blotts in PoA is called "Broken Balls: When the Fortunes Turn Foul". I'd like to find out what the expression "broken balls" means here. Are they crystal balls? Or some, er, different kind of balls :-)? This is needed for a translation. Can anyone help me with that? Thanks :-). > > Geoff: > I'll put my money on crystal balls. They are traditionally associated with fortune telling. > > I don't think that Flourish and Blotts would deal with, "er, different kinds of balls". Kemper: While I agree with Geoff that it's referring to crystal balls, I think JKR is playing with the expression 'breaking my balls'. Here's an example, Fortune: Hey man, you're going to be house rich in about a year- Man: Kickass! F: then the housing market will collapse two months after that- M: Lame. F: but you won't mind because you will be madly- M: 'in love' oh thank god F: insane- M: wtf F: because you will have been tortured for six weeks prior to the collapse. M: You're really breaking my balls here, Fortune. So I can see where JKR is using a double entendre with 'Broken Balls'. Kemper From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com Fri Oct 8 19:58:23 2010 From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com) Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2010 19:58:23 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "kemper" wrote: zanooda: > > > Hi guys, I have a question: one of the Divination books Harry notices at Flourish and Blotts in PoA is called "Broken Balls: When the Fortunes Turn Foul". I'd like to find out what the expression "broken balls" means here. Are they crystal balls? Or some, er, different kind of balls :-)? This is needed for a translation. Can anyone help me with that? Thanks :-). Geoff: > > I'll put my money on crystal balls. They are traditionally associated with fortune telling. > > I don't think that Flourish and Blotts would deal with, "er, different kinds of balls". Kemper: > While I agree with Geoff that it's referring to crystal balls, I think JKR is playing with the expression 'breaking my balls'. > Here's an example, > Fortune: Hey man, you're going to be house rich in about a year- > Man: Kickass! > F: then the housing market will collapse two months after that- > M: Lame. > F: but you won't mind because you will be madly- > M: 'in love' oh thank god > F: insane- > M: wtf > F: because you will have been tortured for six weeks prior to the collapse. > M: You're really breaking my balls here, Fortune. > > So I can see where JKR is using a double entendre with 'Broken Balls'. Geoff: Hm. Well, JKR must have picked that up in the US. It's not a UK English idiom. From zanooda2 at yahoo.com Sat Oct 9 00:46:03 2010 From: zanooda2 at yahoo.com (zanooda2) Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 00:46:03 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "kemper" wrote: > While I agree with Geoff that it's referring to crystal balls, > I think JKR is playing with the expression 'breaking my balls'. zanooda: Yeah, see, I've always assumed they were crystal balls, but yesterday one of the girls who are doing the translation asked me why it was plural, and why it doesn't say "crystal ball/balls" and stuff like that :-). This made me wonder if there was some kind of double meaning here that I didn't see before. I heard the expression "to break balls", although I thought it meant "to work too hard". But if it really means something like "to annoy", it could work. OTOH, if, as Geoff says, they don't know this expression in the UK, maybe JKR didn't intend any double meanings here at all, who knows :-). Thank you guys anyway :-). From kempermentor at yahoo.com Sat Oct 9 05:18:10 2010 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper) Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 05:18:10 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Kemper: > > While I agree with Geoff that it's referring to crystal balls, > > I think JKR is playing with the expression 'breaking my balls'. > zanooda: > Yeah, see, I've always assumed they were crystal balls, but yesterday one of the girls who are doing the translation asked me why it was plural, and why it doesn't say "crystal ball/balls" and stuff like that :-). This made me wonder if there was some kind of double meaning here that I didn't see before. > > I heard the expression "to break balls", although I thought it meant "to work too hard". But if it really means something like "to annoy", it could work. OTOH, if, as Geoff says, they don't know this expression in the UK, maybe JKR didn't intend any double meanings here at all, who knows :-). Kemper: There's a subtle difference. Arduous or monotonous work is ballbreaking. To break someone's balls is to demand of them to perform a real or perceived ballbreaking task generally at a time of their inconvenience. (<---That's an ugly sentence, but I hope it's understood!) Ball-breakers are taskmasters. Kemper From kempermentor at yahoo.com Sat Oct 9 05:35:49 2010 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper) Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2010 05:35:49 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Kemper: > There's a subtle difference. ... Kemper: Oops, also wanted to add that it's usage and it's synonym 'ballbuster' or 'ballbusting' have been around at least since my grandpa's time and he's in his 90's. I've heard him and my uncles use 'ballbuster' could mean a bit of hard work, they also used it with a misogynistic connotation toward a woman. Modern use doesn't seem to suggest that. From md at exit-reality.com Sat Oct 9 12:05:46 2010 From: md at exit-reality.com (Child Of Midian) Date: Sat, 9 Oct 2010 08:05:46 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Divination book title In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000f01cb67aa$4ea3a5c0$ebeaf140$@com> I hear "to break balls" as to harass or make of someone for something they've done or some specific thing about them. "stop breaking my balls" or "I'm just busting your balls" md -----Original Message----- From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kemper Kemper: There's a subtle difference. Arduous or monotonous work is ballbreaking. To break someone's balls is to demand of them to perform a real or perceived ballbreaking task generally at a time of their inconvenience. (<---That's an ugly sentence, but I hope it's understood!) Ball-breakers are taskmasters. Kemper terms/ From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sat Oct 9 17:56:35 2010 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 9 Oct 2010 17:56:35 -0000 Subject: Weekly Chat, 10/10/2010, 1:00 pm Message-ID: <1286646995.9.3502.m7@yahoogroups.com> Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/cal Weekly Chat Sunday October 10, 2010 1:00 pm - 2:00 pm (This event repeats every week.) (The next reminder for this event will be sent in 23 hours, 3 minutes.) Location: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Notes: Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour. To get to the HPfGU room follow this link: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want to be called. Enter the password: hpfguchat Click "Join Chat" on the lower right. Chat start times: 11 am Pacific US 12 noon Mountain US 1 pm Central US 2 pm Eastern US 7 pm UK All Rights Reserved Copyright 2010 Yahoo! 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From kenadams705 at btinternet.com Sun Oct 10 13:59:57 2010 From: kenadams705 at btinternet.com (KEN ADAMS) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:59:57 +0100 (BST) Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Divination book title In-Reply-To: <000f01cb67aa$4ea3a5c0$ebeaf140$@com> References: <000f01cb67aa$4ea3a5c0$ebeaf140$@com> Message-ID: <965158.7168.qm@web87003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> I, like Geoff,?have never heard either of these expressions. I, like Geoff, live in the English west country, where JKR spent ?much of her childhood and student years. I suspect that she hadn't heard these expressions either. So the evidence leads me to agree with Geoff that JKR was referring to crystal balls rather than unknown idioms on another continent. Ken ________________________________ From: Child Of Midian To: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, 9 October, 2010 13:05:46 Subject: RE: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Divination book title ? I hear "to break balls" as to harass or make of someone for something they've done or some specific thing about them. "stop breaking my balls" or "I'm just busting your balls" md -----Original Message----- From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com [mailto:HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of kemper Kemper: There's a subtle difference. Arduous or monotonous work is ballbreaking. To break someone's balls is to demand of them to perform a real or perceived ballbreaking task generally at a time of their inconvenience. (<---That's an ugly sentence, but I hope it's understood!) Ball-breakers are taskmasters. Kemper terms/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sun Oct 10 17:04:28 2010 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 10 Oct 2010 17:04:28 -0000 Subject: Weekly Chat, 10/10/2010, 1:00 pm Message-ID: <1286730269.183.57964.m4@yahoogroups.com> Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! 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URL: From catlady at wicca.net Sun Oct 10 18:45:29 2010 From: catlady at wicca.net (Catlady (Rita Prince) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 18:45:29 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: <965158.7168.qm@web87003.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, KEN ADAMS wrote: > > I, like Geoff,?have never heard either of these expressions. > I, like Geoff, live in the English west country, where JKR spent >?much of her childhood and student years. I suspect that she > hadn't heard these expressions either. So the evidence leads me > to agree with Geoff that JKR was referring to crystal balls > rather than unknown idioms on another continent. While I feel certain that the author of BROKEN BALLS: WHEN FORTUNE TURN FOUL meant Crystal Balls, I also very strongly suspect that Rowling wouldn't have invented that title if she didn't intend for older readers to be reminded that 'balls' is slang for 'testicles'. Like the first reference to Aberforth being prosecuted for practising inappropriate charms on a goat, where references to bestiality are all in the reader's mind. From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Sun Oct 10 19:15:06 2010 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:15:06 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kemper wrote: > There's a subtle difference. > Arduous or monotonous work is ballbreaking. > To break someone's balls is to demand of them to perform a real or perceived ballbreaking task generally at a time of their inconvenience. (<---That's an ugly sentence, but I hope it's understood!) > Ball-breakers are taskmasters. Carol responds: Well, yes, but JKR is British and female. Though she does sometimes use double entendres, the implications here don't seem to fit with misfortune. I think she's going for the crystal ball image and the alliteration--though I must admit that as an American who hears adolescent boys talking quite frequently, the other reading did cross my mind. Carol, who thinks we should trust the British readers on this one From n2fgc at arrl.net Sun Oct 10 21:33:03 2010 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 17:33:03 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Divination book title In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34DABFD19AC14A9EA0AD2368F303EB5F@musiclee> [Carol]: | Well, yes, but JKR is British and female. Though she does | sometimes use double entendres, the implications here don't | seem to fit with misfortune. I think she's going for the | crystal ball image and the alliteration--though I must admit | that as an American who hears adolescent boys talking quite | frequently, the other reading did cross my mind. | | Carol, who thinks we should trust the British readers on this one [Lee]: I agree. I also find it unfortunate that whenever something like this crops up there is a tendency to want to see things that might not be present. I think people try too hard, sometimes, to read into or between the lines. Smile, Lee :-) From zanooda2 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 11 04:52:57 2010 From: zanooda2 at yahoo.com (zanooda2) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 04:52:57 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: <34DABFD19AC14A9EA0AD2368F303EB5F@musiclee> Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Lee Storm \(God Is The Healing Force" wrote: > I also find it unfortunate that whenever something like this crops > up there is a tendency to want to see things that might not be > present. zanooda: LOL! As I understand it, no one *wants* to see those things, they just cross one's mind, that's all. People don't *try* to find something like that in the books, it just pops up. If even us foreigners noticed... :-). I agree though that if Brits don't know this expression, JKR probably didn't mean any wordplay. Let's consider it an unexpected added bonus for those living in the US :-). From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com Mon Oct 11 05:49:17 2010 From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (GEOFF) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 05:49:17 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Catlady (Rita Prince" wrote: > > --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, KEN ADAMS wrote: > > > > I, like Geoff,?have never heard either of these expressions. > > I, like Geoff, live in the English west country, where JKR spent > >?much of her childhood and student years. I suspect that she > > hadn't heard these expressions either. So the evidence leads me > > to agree with Geoff that JKR was referring to crystal balls > > rather than unknown idioms on another continent. Catlady: > While I feel certain that the author of BROKEN BALLS: WHEN FORTUNE TURN FOUL meant Crystal Balls, I also very strongly suspect that Rowling wouldn't have invented that title if she didn't intend for older readers to be reminded that 'balls' is slang for 'testicles'. Like the first reference to Aberforth being prosecuted for practising inappropriate charms on a goat, where references to bestiality are all in the reader's mind. Geoff: Although I have been amused by many of JKR's plays on words such as "Diagon Alley", "Disillusion" and "Grimmauld Place", there are few, if any, which play on sexual double entendres. Bearing in mind, that the early books were read by younger folk and I suspect that as the adult readership increased when the books got darker - and the original readers got older - I would stand by my first thought that the reference was to crystal balls, as they are so closely associated with fortune telling and divination. From kempermentor at yahoo.com Mon Oct 11 14:48:14 2010 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:48:14 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Geoff: > Although I have been amused by many of JKR's plays on words > such as "Diagon Alley", "Disillusion" and "Grimmauld Place", there > are few, if any, which play on sexual double entendres. Kemper: Ron: Can I have a look at Uranus, too, Lavender? Kemper From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Mon Oct 11 14:54:41 2010 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 14:54:41 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Geoff wrote: > Although I have been amused by many of JKR's plays on words > such as "Diagon Alley", "Disillusion" and "Grimmauld Place", there > are few, if any, which play on sexual double entendres. > > Bearing in mind, that the early books were read by younger folk > and I suspect that as the adult readership increased when the books > got darker - and the original readers got older - I would stand > by my first thought that the reference was to crystal balls, as > they are so closely associated with fortune telling and divination. > Carol responds: JKR isn't as innocent as all that, I'm afraid. She sometimes writes over the heads of her child readers, especially in the later books. I can't remember which book (PoA?) has troll guardians patrolling the hallways, but surely "comparing the size of their clubs" has Freudian overtones. Some of the remarks on wands and wandwork are similar, for example, the remarks relating to the book Ron gives Harry on how to charm witches. Of course, there's a more innocent pun there, too: "charm" as in cast a charm and "charm" as in "enchant with your personality and manners." (The etymology of both "charm" and "enchant" suggests magic, Both words are related to "incantation," as she may have known.) She also uses what American kids call "gross out" humor relating to bogies, vomiting, Uranus/your anus, etc. At least she doesn't joke about flatulence (or if she does, don't remind me.) Despite all that, I still agree with you that "broken balls" has no relation to male anatomy. Carol, who doesn't go looking for Freudian implications (or "gross-out humor") and wishes she had never heard of Freud From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com Mon Oct 11 20:13:43 2010 From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (GEOFF) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:13:43 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "kemper" wrote: > > > > Geoff: > > Although I have been amused by many of JKR's plays on words > > such as "Diagon Alley", "Disillusion" and "Grimmauld Place", there > > are few, if any, which play on sexual double entendres. > > Kemper: > Ron: Can I have a look at Uranus, too, Lavender? Geoff: That isn't really a sexual double entendre. It's the sort of infantile humour that (usually) boys produce in their early teens: references to breaking wind, sharing "naughty" words because it's the frisson of doing something about which your parents would throw a fit... I remember enjoying that thrill myself a few years ago. Hee, hee.... :-) From kempermentor at yahoo.com Mon Oct 11 23:32:46 2010 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 23:32:46 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Kemper: > > Ron: Can I have a look at Uranus, too, Lavender? > Geoff: > That isn't really a sexual double entendre. It's the sort of infantile humour that (usually) boys produce in their early teens: references to breaking wind, sharing "naughty" words because it's the frisson of doing something about which your parents would throw a fit... Kemper: No matter how infantile or juvenile the humor, the humor Ron uses is a sexual double entendre. :-) And since Ron uses it at 13, I'm guessing that Fred uses it as well in OoP when he's talking about the fifth year being difficult but that he and his brother "managed to keep their peckers up". I know that the phrase is old fashioned and is equivalent "keep their chins up" or "keep their spirits up", but doesn't pecker have another meaning than one's nose in the UK? If it does, then I think that JKR would have Fred use it with that intended innuendo. If Percy were to say it, I don't think the naughtier implication would've been intended because it doesn't seem to be in his character, but Fred and George seem a bit... bawdier? ...that's not the right word. Maybe more infantile than Percy, and so it's easier to believe they mean something else other than the original meaning of the phrase. Kemper From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com Tue Oct 12 06:34:39 2010 From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (GEOFF) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 06:34:39 -0000 Subject: Divination book title In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "kemper" wrote: > > > > Kemper: > > > Ron: Can I have a look at Uranus, too, Lavender? > > > Geoff: > > That isn't really a sexual double entendre. It's the sort of infantile humour that (usually) boys produce in their early teens: references to breaking wind, sharing "naughty" words because it's the frisson of doing something about which your parents would throw a fit... > > Kemper: > No matter how infantile or juvenile the humor, the humor Ron uses is a sexual double entendre. :-) Geoff: i still don't agree with you. I don't think making jokes involving your backside or other body parts which are not mentioned in polite society are overtly *sexual* but are just part of that growing-up phase of using words (among yourselves) which would shock Grandma. :-) Kemper: > And since Ron uses it at 13, I'm guessing that Fred uses it as well in OoP when he's talking about the fifth year being difficult but that he and his brother "managed to keep their peckers up". I know that the phrase is old fashioned and is equivalent "keep their chins up" or "keep their spirits up", but doesn't pecker have another meaning than one's nose in the UK? I Geoff: No, it doesn't. This is another of those linguistic divides between UK and US English. My dictionary entry for "pecker" includes your definition but notes that it is "N. Amer. vulgar slang". I never realised that the usage existed until fairly recently and cannot recall ever hearing it used in that way with UK native speakers. I think there are enough informal names for male equipment in UK English already. Probably, like being good at snooker, a sign of a misspent youth. :-| From bboyminn at yahoo.com Thu Oct 14 23:40:00 2010 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (bboyminn) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 23:40:00 -0000 Subject: Trio Fantasies - But, you know, the nice kind. Message-ID: Maybe I'm just the odd ball, but I had my imagined encounters with various members of the Potter films cast. I'm curious if any others have had thoughts long this line. Though, let's do keep in clean. I thinking more along the line of stalker fantasies, rather than sexual predator fantasies. Here is how I imagine I would some day meet and become friends with Tom, Rupert, and Dan. First, I win the lottery. I did say this was fantasy...right. Then I buy a place in London. One day I'm in a tea shop, and Tom Felton walks in. We talk, and knowing he likes to fish, I invite him to Minnesota for a fishing expedition. Eventually, he accepts, and I take him for a wirlwind tour of Minnesota, and my work shop. (Short version) My staff are building some audio speakers for me, and I give Tom an audition. He likes the speakers, so I agree to build a pair for him. A few month later, Tom tell Rupert about his trip to Minnesota and the great speaker he just received. Rupert is intrique and calls me. We meet the next time I'm in London, and Rupert agrees to come for a visit, and I build him some speaker, and he tells Dan. Dan comes for a visit. Soon we are all good friends. But remember, this all starts with me winning the lottery. Just curious if I'm the only one who has wandering thoughts like this. Curious if you've has similar thoughts? Steve/bboyminn From kempermentor at yahoo.com Fri Oct 15 03:23:23 2010 From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (kemper) Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:23:23 -0000 Subject: Trio Fantasies - But, you know, the nice kind. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Steve: > Here is how I imagine I would some day meet and become friends with Tom, Rupert, and Dan. Kemper: So... no Emma? Kemper From justcarol67 at yahoo.com Sat Oct 16 16:34:59 2010 From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:34:59 -0000 Subject: Trio Fantasies - But, you know, the nice kind. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: "bboyminn" wrote: > > Maybe I'm just the odd ball, but I had my imagined encounters with various members of the Potter films cast. > > I'm curious if any others have had thoughts long this line. Carol responds: Everyone fantasizes at some point in their lives, I'm sure. But fantasizing about meeting the Trio? No. They're a bunch of kids still in or barely out of their teens with whom I have nothing in common (even if I became rich through winning the lottery). Actually, I have no interest in meeting the HP actors, even the highly gifted adults. As for fantasizing about the characters and the WW itself, I'll bet that everyone on this list has done that at some point. ;-) Carol, who does occasionally daydream about winning the lottery From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sat Oct 16 17:56:48 2010 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 16 Oct 2010 17:56:48 -0000 Subject: Weekly Chat, 10/17/2010, 1:00 pm Message-ID: <1287251808.17.76028.m3@yahoogroups.com> Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/cal Weekly Chat Sunday October 17, 2010 1:00 pm - 2:00 pm (This event repeats every week.) (The next reminder for this event will be sent in 23 hours, 3 minutes.) Location: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Notes: Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour. To get to the HPfGU room follow this link: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want to be called. 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To get to the HPfGU room follow this link: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want to be called. Enter the password: hpfguchat Click "Join Chat" on the lower right. Chat start times: 11 am Pacific US 12 noon Mountain US 1 pm Central US 2 pm Eastern US 7 pm UK All Rights Reserved Copyright 2010 Yahoo! Inc. http://www.yahoo.com Privacy Policy: http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us Terms of Service: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bboyminn at yahoo.com Wed Oct 20 16:30:56 2010 From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (bboyminn) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 16:30:56 -0000 Subject: Trio Fantasies - But, you know, the nice kind. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" wrote: > > "bboyminn" wrote: > > > > Maybe I'm just the odd ball, but I had my imagined encounters with various members of the Potter films cast. > > > > I'm curious if any others have had thoughts long this line. > > Carol responds: > Everyone fantasizes at some point in their lives, I'm sure. But fantasizing about meeting the Trio? No. They're a bunch of kids still in or barely out of their teens with whom I have nothing in common ... > > Carol, who does occasionally daydream about winning the lottery > Keep in mind, we wouldn't be moving in together or anything like that. It would be more of an acquaintanceship than a friendship. Even though these are fantasies, I am somewhat realistic about it. Beyond the initial stay, we would probably have tea once a year and talk on the phone about specific topics twice a year. But at least I could say I knew them. And in my fantasy, the bulk of our conversation centers around high end stereo equipment. That really sets the framework for our relationship. So,...no..., we wouldn't be hanging around or paling around nightclubs together. And of course, the entire fantasy is moderated back to sanity, by starting with me winning the lottery. Though it couldn't just be any lottery, I figure the JackPot would have to be large enough for me to net a cool $50 million or more. It is the presence of the "Lottery" that prevents a fun casual fantasy from becoming a Stalker Fantasy. Without that to moderate the fantasy, I could be camping outside the trios door right now and dodging Restraining Orders. Just curious if others had had similar thoughts. Steve/bluewizard From n2fgc at arrl.net Wed Oct 20 16:48:57 2010 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 12:48:57 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Trio Fantasies - But, you know, the nice kind. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <058D872758A0460A9DDD59586EDAD8DE@musiclee> I guess I'm just not into actors enough to fantacize about them. Of course, I do dream about winning the lottery, but then I think about going to the Potter World in Florida or going to England to explore. If my wild imagination does stray into Potterverse, I dream of being a Muggle Studies teacher or something like that at Hogwarts. Lee :-) Do not walk behind me, | Lee Storm I may not care to lead; | N2FGC Do not walk before me, | n2fgc at arrl.net (or) I may not care to follow; | n2fgc at optonline.net Walk beside me, and be my friend. From wildirishrose at fiber.net Thu Oct 21 06:05:39 2010 From: wildirishrose at fiber.net (wildirishrose) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:05:39 -0600 Subject: The Tattoo Message-ID: <41A1461AD01E459C9A0422F39F916F50@Marianne> I have a job where I work with people that are on probation and parole. Many of them have tattoos of almost any kind. However, a person came through with a tattoo that was the best. It said "I solemnly swear that I am up to no good." My co-worker was clueless and thought it was just another tattoo. I laughed and laughed and told her what book it came from. Considering that this person were booked in jail and on probation with us, it was perfect. Marianne [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] From n2fgc at arrl.net Thu Oct 21 14:02:51 2010 From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 10:02:51 -0400 Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] The Tattoo In-Reply-To: <41A1461AD01E459C9A0422F39F916F50@Marianne> References: <41A1461AD01E459C9A0422F39F916F50@Marianne> Message-ID: <70DB1EA4AA30437886ACAB64E3A7556D@musiclee> [Wild Irish Rose]: | However, a person came through with a tattoo that was the | best. It said "I solemnly swear that I am up to no good." | My co-worker was clueless and thought it was just another | tattoo. I laughed and laughed and told her what book it came from. | | Considering that this person were booked in jail and on | probation with us, it was perfect. [Lee]: LOL! But now that person, if he/she truly intends to change the path of life, needs another tattoo that says, "Mischief Managed!" Smile, Lee:-) From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com Sat Oct 23 17:56:51 2010 From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com) Date: 23 Oct 2010 17:56:51 -0000 Subject: Weekly Chat, 10/24/2010, 1:00 pm Message-ID: <1287856611.503.15211.m14@yahoogroups.com> Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/cal Weekly Chat Sunday October 24, 2010 1:00 pm - 2:00 pm (This event repeats every week.) (The next reminder for this event will be sent in 23 hours, 3 minutes.) Location: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 Notes: Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour. 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