From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Feb  4 17:19:58 2011
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:19:58 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
Message-ID: <iihcfu+lgl3@eGroups.com>

How is everyone doing during this unusually cold winter? Even in Tucson, we were down to 17 degrees F. (-8 C.) this morning, but we'll be up to 50 (10 C.) by this afternoon. Hope nobody's car is stuck on Lakeshore Drive in Chicago!

Carol, wondering whatever happened to global warming




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Fri Feb  4 18:08:54 2011
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force))
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 13:08:54 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Bitter winter
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Carol,

Ouch!  I didn't think it could get that cold in Arizona.  Brrr!

You have my empathy.  And I have so had enough of this in NJ.  Right now,
my driveway looks like an Arctic plain and I am sore and tired of
shoveling.  Since Art can no longer work the snow-blower or shovel, it's
all on me and there are no school kids hanging around looking for an extra
buck. <Sigh>

With another mixed-bag storm heading in on Saturday, I haven't a clue as to
whether or not I'll make it to church.  If I could only work that
snow-melting spell of Hermione's. <Sigh>

Spring just can't come fast enough.  Please, won't somebody come and clear
my driveway?????  Please??????

Lee, The Bushed

 

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| How is everyone doing during this unusually cold winter? Even 
| in Tucson, we were down to 17 degrees F. (-8 C.) this 
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From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com  Fri Feb  4 22:12:47 2011
From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff)
Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2011 22:12:47 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <iihcfu+lgl3@eGroups.com>
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:

Carol:
> How is everyone doing during this unusually cold winter? Even in Tucson, we were down to 17 degrees F. (-8 C.) this morning, but we'll be up to 50 (10 C.) by this afternoon. Hope nobody's car is stuck on Lakeshore Drive in Chicago!

Geoff:
Well, we've had one of the hardest winters in 25 years in the 
UK. Here, in the west, our lowest temperatures in December
rarely sub-zero and some winters, we've only had about two
overnight frosts.

But in late December, we were down to -6 during the day; January
was a mix of either pretty cold and clear or warm and drizzly. At
the moment, Scotland and the North of England are enveloped in 
snow for the umpteenth time while we reached  dizzy 13 - our
February average usually being about 6-7.

Carol, wondering whatever happened to global warming

Geoff:
Have you ever noticed that while your fridge is keeping your
food cool, there is warm air emerging from the back? That's
because of the heat exchanger.

You keep your weather cool in Tucson or further north and 
people somewhere find warm air emerging from the back of
their fridges.
:-)

I blame the Jetstream.




From zanooda2 at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  5 02:52:56 2011
From: zanooda2 at yahoo.com (zanooda2)
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 02:52:56 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <iihcfu+lgl3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <iiie28+hgij@eGroups.com>






--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:

> Even in Tucson, we were down to 17 degrees F. (-8 C.) this morning


We didn't go lower than 22 yet, but it's still very cold, and this morning the roads were covered with black ice, therefore lots of accidents, some of them fatal. I spent the morning trying to convince my husband not to go to work, and I'm so happy that for once he listened :-). It's like a ghost town here today ;-(.

zanooda





From OctobersChild48 at aol.com  Sat Feb  5 08:14:26 2011
From: OctobersChild48 at aol.com (OctobersChild48 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 03:14:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Bitter winter
Message-ID: <14a84.533098aa.3a7e60e2@aol.com>

     
 
While it has not been a mild winter here in  Cincinnati, it hasn't been 
overly cold either. We've only dropped below  zero twice and for the most part 
we have been in the teens and twenties.  That's not bad for Cincinnati; our 
winters are often brutally cold. We  have had snow on the ground non-stop 
since early December, and we got hit  by the ice storm a few days ago. The 
snow here doesn't come close to  comparing with Chicago or the northeast coast. 
The most we have gotten is  6 inches at a time. But it has been around 
forever and I'm sick of it. I  walk to and from work and I have a 75 lb. dog I 
walk six times a day. I  feel pretty lucky because I have only fallen once. I 
consider myself a  winter person. I like cold weather and tolerate it well. 
But although I am  in no way ready for spring, I sure am ready to put this 
winter behind me.  And there's snow in the forecast for tomorrow ...  sigh.
 
Sandy
 
 
In a message dated 2/4/2011 12:20:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
justcarol67 at yahoo.com writes:

How is everyone doing during this unusually cold winter? Even in  Tucson, 
we were down to 17 degrees F. (-8 C.) this morning, but we'll be  up to 50 
(10 C.) by this afternoon. Hope nobody's car is stuck on  Lakeshore Drive in 
Chicago!

Carol, wondering whatever happened to  global  warming




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From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  5 17:03:40 2011
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:03:40 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <0F5099D3987E4E38969AB53DF4E3C6D4@Dobby>
Message-ID: <iijvtc+r1jm@eGroups.com>

Lee wrote:
>
> Carol,
> 
> Ouch!  I didn't think it could get that cold in Arizona.  Brrr!

Carol responds:

It's highly unusual for Southern Arizona. It hasn't been that cold in Tucson on that date since 1899! But Northern Arizona is another matter. The altitude in Flagstaff, where I grew up, is 7,000 feet, which puts it in another climate zone altogether. Flagstaff is often the cold spot of the nation. The year I turned eighteen, we had seven feet of snow during Christmas vacation! Oddly, the day before the storm that dumped the first three feet was clear and unusually warm (high in the low sixties, which is highly unusual for Flagstaff in December), and I remember turning to my boyfriend and laughing at the weather forecaster predicting a major snowstorm. Boy, was I wrong! There was another clear, warm spell and then another four feet of snow. My brilliant sister, seventeen at the time, climbed up on the roof of the house, jumped into the middle of the yard, and had to "swim" through the snow to get back to the carport and into the house.

Of course, Tucson has never had a storm remotely resembling that, but we've had an occasional white Christmas (we had one in 1986, with lovely large flakes floating down on Christmas Eve and several inches of snow on the ground and banisters Christmas morning). Easter 1999 was also sort of white, with rain turning to wet snow early in the morning, but it didn't last.

This particular cold front is a dry one, but people in some Southern Arizona cities have been without heat and/or water because there wasn't enough pressure to deliver the natural gas or their pipes froze. Lots of schools canceled classes on Friday in places like Sierra Vista, Bisbee, and Douglas. It's supposed to be warmer today (high around sixty though the low this morning was 25--another hard freeze) and get cold again on Monday. Lots of people here don't even own warm coats and don't know how to deal with this kind of weather. (I do own coats--I remember other cold winters though none this cold.)

Carol, who nevertheless is glad that she doesn't have to drive on snow or shovel a sidewalk




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  5 17:09:55 2011
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:09:55 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <iihtkv+goeq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <iik093+chb8@eGroups.com>

Geoff:
> <snip>
> I blame the Jetstream.

Carol responds:

Our weather forecasters are blaming La Nina (can't do a tilde, sorry), which, as I understand it, is responsible for the behavior of the jet stream. We've had two unusually cold spells but otherwise warm, dry weather.

Carol, who prefers an El Nino (supply a tilde for the second "n") winter with more normal (and stable) winter temperatures and occasional rain





From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com  Sat Feb  5 17:43:05 2011
From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff)
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:43:05 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <iik093+chb8@eGroups.com>
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> Geoff:
> > <snip>
> > I blame the Jetstream.
> 
> Carol responds:
> 
> Our weather forecasters are blaming La Nina (can't do a tilde, sorry), which, as I understand it, is responsible for the behavior of the jet stream. We've had two unusually cold spells but otherwise warm, dry weather.
> 
> Carol, who prefers an El Nino (supply a tilde for the second "n") winter with more normal (and stable) winter temperatures and occasional rain
>

Try Alt+n, possibly then n again. That works for my iMac and a lot of the 
accents etc. are derived the same way on a PC.

I nearly blamed La Ni?a - or El Ni?o; my comment was actually included 
within the context of the preceding smiley.
:-)




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  5 17:45:30 2011
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 09:45:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <iik093+chb8@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <632282.10603.qm@web63403.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

> Geoff:
> > <snip>
> > I blame the Jetstream.
> 
> Carol responds:
> 
> Our weather forecasters are blaming La Nina (can't do a
> tilde, sorry), which, as I understand it, is responsible for
> the behavior of the jet stream. We've had two unusually cold
> spells but otherwise warm, dry weather.
> 
> Carol, who prefers an El Nino (supply a tilde for the
> second "n") winter with more normal (and stable) winter
> temperatures and occasional rain
> 
Sheryll:

Overall it's been a pretty warm winter here. Aside from the cold snap about 2 weeks ago. So cold that a customer of mine wouldn't let me bus home (he knows I have a 4 stop walk on my end) and came back to the store with his van to drive me home. 

We've had a couple blizzards in the past month, the last of which caused schools to cancel their buses. Other than that it was business as usual. Unlike Toronto, Ottawa doesn't shut down at the threat of snow, we just leave earlier to get to work and allow for slower public transit.

The previous snowstorm had me waiting at the bus stop for ages. The bus that is supposed to run every 30 minutes showed up 25 minutes late. The bus driver nearly went right past me even though I was the only person on the sidewalk for blocks. She was annoyed that I didn't politely accept her apology ("I couldn't stop in time" - she had the entire block to see me and slow down!) and proceeded to berate me for not dressing appropriately for the weather. I was wearing boots, hat, scarf, gloves and a perfectly warm winter coat. I wasn't cold, I was becoming late for work! Not like it was rush hour, either, it was a Saturday afternoon. Have to chalk that one up to the poor standards of service (both in timeliness and attitude) of my public transit system. My bus for work probably has an on-time rating of 5%. But public transit rants are a whole other kettle of fish. :)

Sheryll





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From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sat Feb  5 21:05:52 2011
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 21:05:52 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> How is everyone doing during this unusually cold winter? Even in Tucson, we were down to 17 degrees F. (-8 C.) this morning, but we'll be up to 50 (10 C.) by this afternoon. Hope nobody's car is stuck on Lakeshore Drive in Chicago!
> 
> Carol, wondering whatever happened to global warming
>

Steve:

>From the frozen tundra of sunny southern Minnesota. 

In the month of December, we had 40 inches of snow, setting a new record. We have had several below 0?F day, with the lowest being in the neighborhood of -15?F to -20?F (~25?C). 

And by the way, the coldest place in the continental 48 states is International Falls, Minnesota. Occasionally, in a given year, one place or another might beat it, but it rapidly regains the title. 

Also, as long as we are on the subject of weather horror stories, I remember one particular year in Minnesota when, with the windchill, the temperature was -100?F (~-75?C), and yes most of that 'wind chill' was due to high winds from the north. I drove 100 mile to my parents house at Christmas time, and my car never warmed up. 

When I say 'never warmed up' I don't mean the interior of the car never warmed up, which it didn't, I mean that the temperature gauge needle never moved. I suspect if I had looked in the radiator at the end of the drive, I would have still found ice slush in it. 

Welcome to Minnesota. 

Steve/bboyminn





From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com  Sat Feb  5 21:43:10 2011
From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff)
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2011 21:43:10 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <632282.10603.qm@web63403.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <iikg9e+t6q6@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Sheryll Townsend <s_ings at ...> wrote:

Sheryll:
 
> We've had a couple blizzards in the past month, the last of which caused schools to cancel their buses. Other than that it was business as usual. Unlike Toronto, Ottawa doesn't shut down at the threat of snow, we just leave earlier to get to work and allow for slower public transit.

Geoff:
Hmmm. I hope it won't snow in May.

My first ever visit across the pond will be to Toronto in that month
to see my son and his wife who moved to there to take up a job
with a Christina organisation last july.




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  6 05:10:23 2011
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 21:10:23 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <iikg9e+t6q6@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <522404.31139.qm@web63401.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

> Sheryll:
>  
> > We've had a couple blizzards in the past month, the
> last of which caused schools to cancel their buses. Other
> than that it was business as usual. Unlike Toronto, Ottawa
> doesn't shut down at the threat of snow, we just leave
> earlier to get to work and allow for slower public transit.
> 
> Geoff:
> Hmmm. I hope it won't snow in May.
> 
> My first ever visit across the pond will be to Toronto in
> that month
> to see my son and his wife who moved to there to take up a
> job
> with a Christina organisation last july.
> 
Sheryll:

I don't think I've ever known it to snow in Toronto in May. I did here once, about 15 years ago. Right after we'd had the earliest and warmest spring I could remember. It was so warm that everyone ignored the general rule not to start planting your garden before the May long weekend. I know I planted early and had to go cover up my strawberries to protect them from the snow!

Usually quite warm in May, it's generally the first big camping weekend around here.

Do you know when in May you'll be in Toronto? I was just mentioning to my boss the possibility of my taking a day or two in May to go to the documentary film festival there. Perhaps our trips will overlap (assuming I can afford a 5th vacation this year). :D

Sheryll





From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  6 06:46:25 2011
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 06:46:25 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Geoff" <geoffbannister123 at ...> wrote:
>
> ...
> 
> Geoff:
> Hmmm. I hope it won't snow in May.
> 
> My first ever visit across the pond will be to Toronto in that month
> to see my son and his wife who moved to there to take up a job
> with a Christina organization last July.
>

I'm in southern Minnesota, lived here most of my life. Toronto is about as far south as southern Minnesota (Mankato, to be exact). The snow usually ends in March, in April it melts, and by May the weather is usually pretty nice. Perhaps chilly in at night, but nice enough during the day. 

Though here is Minnesota, April and May are tornado season. That's always a worry. 

Generally though tornadoes don't do well near large lakes. If they hit a lake, they suck up tons of water, and that takes all the energy out of them. Too hard to keep all that heavy water spinning. So, you should be safe in Toronto. 

Someone has a brother who is moving to St. Paul, that is in east central Minnesota. Both Minneapolis and St. Paul (the Twin Cities) are nice places to live. Wish I was back there again, but it got too expensive. 

Steve/bboyminn




From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com  Sun Feb  6 08:04:03 2011
From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff)
Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 08:04:03 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <522404.31139.qm@web63401.mail.re1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <iilklj+sqq@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Sheryll Townsend <s_ings at ...> wrote:

Geoff:
> > Hmmm. I hope it won't snow in May.
> > 
> > My first ever visit across the pond will be to Toronto in
> > that month
> > to see my son and his wife who moved to there to take up a
> > job
> > with a Christina organisation last july.

Sheryll: 
> I don't think I've ever known it to snow in Toronto in May. I did here once, about 15 years ago. Right after we'd had the earliest and warmest spring I could remember. It was so warm that everyone ignored the general rule not to start planting your garden before the May long weekend. I know I planted early and had to go cover up my strawberries to protect them from the snow!
> 
> Usually quite warm in May, it's generally the first big camping weekend around here.

> Do you know when in May you'll be in Toronto? I was just mentioning to my boss the possibility of my taking a day or two in May to go to the documentary film festival there. Perhaps our trips will overlap (assuming I can afford a 5th vacation this year). :D

Geoff:
My "Hmmm" was suggesting I was being a bit light-hearted about it. Andy has 
said that they expect it to be reasonable which is why we chose that time - no 
snow and not too hot seemed to be the guiding lines....

We fly out on the 2nd and return on the 16th. Our family now live in the East 
York part of the city although Andy seems to be flying all over the place as he 
has taken over a fairly senior job.

We're having three holidays this year which is very unusual nowadays as we 
live in a favoured tourist area: Canada in May, then we're taking our daughter 
and granddaughter to the Lake District as they've not had a proper time away 
since the marriage went wrong and Sarah hasn't been back to the Lakes since 
we used to go there regularly when the family were young. And finally, our 
usual week on the Isles of Scilly in July.




From s_ings at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  6 15:22:00 2011
From: s_ings at yahoo.com (Sheryll Townsend)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 07:22:00 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <iilklj+sqq@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <168196.29955.qm@web63405.mail.re1.yahoo.com>

> 
> Sheryll: 
<snip>
> > Do you know when in May you'll be in Toronto? I was
> just mentioning to my boss the possibility of my taking a
> day or two in May to go to the documentary film festival
> there. Perhaps our trips will overlap (assuming I can afford
> a 5th vacation this year). :D
> 
> Geoff:
> My "Hmmm" was suggesting I was being a bit light-hearted
> about it. Andy has 
> said that they expect it to be reasonable which is why we
> chose that time - no 
> snow and not too hot seemed to be the guiding lines....
> 
> We fly out on the 2nd and return on the 16th. Our family
> now live in the East 
> York part of the city although Andy seems to be flying all
> over the place as he 
> has taken over a fairly senior job.
> 
> We're having three holidays this year which is very unusual
> nowadays as we 
> live in a favoured tourist area: Canada in May, then we're
> taking our daughter 
> and granddaughter to the Lake District as they've not had a
> proper time away 
> since the marriage went wrong and Sarah hasn't been back to
> the Lakes since 
> we used to go there regularly when the family were young.
> And finally, our 
> usual week on the Isles of Scilly in July.
> 
Sheryll:

If I can swing the fifth vacation we'll be there at the same time. The documentary festival, iirc, runs until the 8th of May. I was thinking of going for 2-3 days, probably from May 2-4. Don't think I can swing more than 2 nights in a hotel. I'm playing it by ear for now because the festival doesn't yet have a screening schedule available. I hesitate to plan for movies if I don't know what I'm going to see! I can grab a festival pass for relatively cheap ($98) and it would allow me to see 10 screenings, but the overall expense for a 3 day vacation would be the equivalent of a 2 week paycheque for me! Five nights in Vegas last summer cost me less than 2 nights in Toronto will in May. Ah, the joys of being an underpaid (we didn't get raises last year), part-time retail employee. :)

We could definitely meet up for dinner somewhere if I can manage the trip.

Technically I'm only taking 3 real vacations this year - Texas in March, Las Vegas again in June with my daughter and 2 of my co-workers, and back to Colorado in October for the Sirens conference. Toronto is close enough that a 2 day trip like I'm taking this month is really just 2 days off work that I'm spending out of the city. Last summer I did it to see the HP exhibit, this time it's for a Mary Pickford exhibit.

Btw, if anyone here has an interest in fantasy, I highly recommend Sirens. It's run by the same folks that did the HP conferences Witching Hour, Phoenix Rising and Terminus. This is the 3rd year for Sirens and it's still quite a small event. Focus on women and fantasy. Fabulous guest speakers, registration includes everything except 2 breakfasts and 2 dinners. The resort the event is held at is lovely, though getting there from Canada can be an adventure. The first time I took the bus - 52 hours each way. Last year I took the bus to Detroit and flew from there, an exhausting way to get there but it saved a fair chunk of cash over Air Canada's proposed airfare to Denver of $843! This year I will fly to Texas, spend the night there and then fly to Denver. It will still save me about 1/4 of the fare.

End of plug for Sirens. :D

Sheryll





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From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com  Sun Feb  6 23:29:22 2011
From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff)
Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2011 23:29:22 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
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Message-ID: <iinasi+h22i@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Sheryll Townsend <s_ings at ...> wrote:
 
Geoff:
>> We fly out on the 2nd and return on the 16th. Our family
> > now live in the East 
> > York part of the city although Andy seems to be flying all
> > over the place as he 
> > has taken over a fairly senior job.

Sheryll:
 
> If I can swing the fifth vacation we'll be there at the same time. The documentary festival, iirc, runs until the 8th of May. 

Geoff:
I don't know what the family have got in mind yet, other than 
they're hoping to use a friend's cottage somewhere in the sticks 
for a few days, but I have no dates yet.

We'll have to keep each other posted. 







From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Mon Feb  7 16:01:52 2011
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:01:52 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <iik279+2gag@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <iip51g+vj1q@eGroups.com>

Carol earlier:
> > Our weather forecasters are blaming La Nina (can't do a tilde, sorry), which, as I understand it, is responsible for the behavior of the jet stream. We've had two unusually cold spells but otherwise warm, dry weather. <snip>

Geoff responded:
> Try Alt+n, possibly then n again. That works for my iMac and a lot of the accents etc. are derived the same way on a PC.

Carol again:

Here goes nothing: Nope. Literally nothing. The PC won't let me type any letter with the Alt key held down, at least from the OT website where I compose my posts. I could do it from Word, but that's too much trouble, and I never post from my Yahoo e-mail.

Thanks, anyway, Geoff!

Carol, who was hoping to type "Gracias, senor," correctly spelled!




From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com  Mon Feb  7 17:22:54 2011
From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff)
Date: Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:22:54 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <iip51g+vj1q@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <iip9pe+at4v@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:

Carol again:
> 
> Here goes nothing: Nope. Literally nothing. The PC won't let me type any letter with the Alt key held down, at least from the OT website where I compose my posts. I could do it from Word, but that's too much trouble, and I never post from my Yahoo e-mail.
> 
> Thanks, anyway, Geoff!
> 
> Carol, who was hoping to type "Gracias, senor," correctly spelled!

Geoff:
Have been digging around a bit... one suggestion: ALT+SHIFT together, 
then ~, then the letter.

There are others if that doesn't work, excluding re-programming your 
machine with an axe ( as per "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy").
:-(





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  9 17:05:21 2011
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:05:21 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <iip9pe+at4v@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <iiuhgh+of16@eGroups.com>


> > Carol, who was hoping to type "Gracias, senor," correctly spelled!
> 
> Geoff:
> Have been digging around a bit... one suggestion: ALT+SHIFT together, 
> then ~, then the letter.
> 
> There are others if that doesn't work, excluding re-programming your 
> machine with an axe ( as per "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy").
> :-(
>
Carol responds:

Thanks, Geoff, but I'm afraid that those tactics don't work with my PC. I even tried them in Word, but alt N took me to the Insert Menu and alt/shift plus tilde did nothing (except a plain n when I typed n). Of course, in Word, I can just use the Insert menu.

Carol, who is too worried about her car's transmission to be anxious about a tilde!






From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Wed Feb  9 18:41:25 2011
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 18:41:25 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <iiuhgh+of16@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <iiun4l+2h07@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> > > Carol, who was hoping to type "Gracias, senor," correctly spelled!
> > 
> > Geoff:
> > Have been digging around a bit... one suggestion: ALT+SHIFT
> > together, then ~, then the letter.
> > 
> > There are others if that doesn't work, excluding re-programming
> > your machine with an axe ( as per "Hitchhiker's Guide to the
> > Galaxy").
> > :-(
> >
> Carol responds:
> 
> Thanks, Geoff, but I'm afraid that those tactics don't work with my PC. I even tried them in Word, but alt N took me to the Insert Menu and alt/shift plus tilde did nothing (except a plain n when I typed n). Of course, in Word, I can just use the Insert menu.
> 
> Carol, who is too worried about her car's transmission to be anxious about a tilde!
>


Steve:

I don't know about your computer, but on mine the text editing window is using what appears to be a Courier New font. If you got to the Windows Character Map (Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> Character Map, you will literally see the character map for selected fonts. 

If you select a character with your mouse, it that character can be reproduced on the keyboard, you will see something like Alt+0211, and here is the character that combination produces "?". 

I'm frequently on discussion board in Europe so I frequently need non-standard characters, so I've got a small list posted next to my computer of commonly needed characters.

To produce the character, hold down the ALT key, then while holding, press the number sequence on the number keypad; do NOT use the Plus sign, just ALT and the number sequence. It has to be the number keypad on the right, and not the numbers across the top.

ALT+0162 = ?
ALT+0163 = ?
ALT+177 = ?
ALT+0188 = ?
ALT+0189 = ?

ALT+211 = ?
ALT+241 = ?
ALT+250 = ?

Not every letter in the font set can be reproduces in this manner, only the first 256 characters. And any character, up to that point, can be reproduced. 

For example -

ALT+0049 = 1 
ALT+0065 = A
ALT+0097 = a

Just passing it along.

Steve/bboyminn




From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com  Wed Feb  9 23:46:33 2011
From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff)
Date: Wed, 09 Feb 2011 23:46:33 -0000
Subject: Characters and accents
In-Reply-To: <iiun4l+2h07@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <iiv90p+f4a6@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at ...> wrote:
 --- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67@> wrote:

Carol:
> > Thanks, Geoff, but I'm afraid that those tactics don't work with my PC. I even tried them in Word, but alt N took me to the Insert Menu and alt/shift plus tilde did nothing (except a plain n when I typed n). Of course, in Word, I can just use the Insert menu.
> > 
> > Carol, who is too worried about her car's transmission to be anxious about a tilde!

Geoff:
My back up alternative I suggested is at the link below:

http://www.edu.dudley.gov.uk/ict/software/word/accents.htm
 
Steve:

> For example -
> 
> ALT+0049 = 1 
> ALT+0065 = A
> ALT+0097 = a
> 
> Just passing it along.

Geoff:
This is the standard ASCII set, which we used to use in word processing 
back in pre-WYSIWYG days. Using BASIC, for example, CHR$(66) would 
produce upper case "B".

ASCII 65-90 cover upper case A-Z, ASCII 97-122 lower case. Other codes 
cover numerals and punctuation. Once you got beyond 122, the codes
varied according to the manufacturer's system. For example, the UK
standard school computers in the late 1980s/early 1990s were BBC Acorn
machines and the ASCII 120s beyond "z" controlled text colour.





From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 10 15:16:58 2011
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:16:58 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <iiun4l+2h07@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ij0vha+k2nm@eGroups.com>

Steve wrote:
> 
> I don't know about your computer, but on mine the text editing window is using what appears to be a Courier New font. If you got to the Windows Character Map (Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> Character Map, you will literally see the character map for selected fonts. 
> 
> If you select a character with your mouse, it that character can be reproduced on the keyboard, you will see something like Alt+0211, and here is the character that combination produces "?". 
> 
> I'm frequently on discussion board in Europe so I frequently need non-standard characters, so I've got a small list posted next to my computer of commonly needed characters.
> 
> To produce the character, hold down the ALT key, then while holding, press the number sequence on the number keypad; do NOT use the Plus sign, just ALT and the number sequence. It has to be the number keypad on the right, and not the numbers across the top.
> 
> ALT+0162 = ?
> ALT+0163 = ?
> ALT+177 = ?
> ALT+0188 = ?
> ALT+0189 = ?
> 
> ALT+211 = ?
> ALT+241 = ?
> ALT+250 = ?
> 
> Not every letter in the font set can be reproduces in this manner, only the first 256 characters. And any character, up to that point, can be reproduced. 
> 
> For example -
> 
> ALT+0049 = 1 
> ALT+0065 = A
> ALT+0097 = a
> 
> Just passing it along.
> 
> Steve/bboyminn
>
Carol responds:

Hi, Steve. Thanks for all your trouble, but I post from the website, where there's no text editing window. (My browser is SeaMonkey, which is very much like the old Netscape. I hate, hate, hate IE!) If I need those characters, I just use the Insert menu in MS Word. Besides, I'd rather do without a tilde than go to the trouble of typing  ALT + 241!

Carol, who is probably both lazy and technologically challenged, :-)!




From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Thu Feb 10 19:32:02 2011
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:32:02 -0000
Subject: Bitter winter
In-Reply-To: <ij0vha+k2nm@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ij1efi+t4u3@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
>
> Steve wrote:
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > To produce the character, hold down the ALT key, then while holding, press the number sequence on the number keypad; do NOT use the Plus sign, just ALT and the number sequence. It has to be the number keypad on the right, and not the numbers across the top.
> > 
> > ALT+0162 = ?
> > ALT+0163 = ?
> > ALT+177 = ?
> > ALT+0188 = ?
> > ALT+0189 = ?
> > 
> > ALT+211 = ?
> > ALT+241 = ?
> > ALT+250 = ?
> > 
> > ...
> > 
> > Just passing it along.
> > 
> > Steve/bboyminn
> >
> Carol responds:
> 
> Hi, Steve. Thanks for all your trouble, but I post from the website, where there's no text editing window. (My browser is SeaMonkey, which is very much like the old Netscape. I hate, hate, hate IE!) If I need those characters, I just use the Insert menu in MS Word. Besides, I'd rather do without a tilde than go to the trouble of typing  ALT + 241!
> 
> Carol, who is probably both lazy and technologically challenged, :-)!
>


Steve:

I post from the website too, and the above special character were
posted in that fashion.

There are some characters that I use a lot, so I sort of know 
them by heart. The Pound '?' and Euro '?', for example. As I 
said, I've got a small list tape at my computer for a quick 
reminder.

I can see not wanting to take the trouble for what amounts to
one post per year or so, but the method is there if you should
need it. 

Just make sure to use the Number Keypad on the Right, and to 
enter all four digits. For example the Pound Sign requires you
to hold the ALT key down, then, on the Number Keypad, press -

ZERO ONE SIX THREE

163 will not work, and the numbers across the top of the keyboard
won't work. 

Obviously this works best if you have symbols that you frequently
use. 

You can also pull characters from the Character Maps, which is
found on all Windows computers, in a copy and paste fashion. 

Keep in mind that the extended characters are not standardized
between fonts. The old pure ASCII character set had lines and
corners for the extended characters. Some fonts have foreign
characters as the extended set. So, this works best with 
standard and very common fonts. 

Steve/bboyminn




From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 11 17:35:29 2011
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:35:29 -0000
Subject: Typing tildes and all that (Was: Bitter winter)
In-Reply-To: <ij1efi+t4u3@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ij3s11+2jmo@eGroups.com>

Carol earlier:
> > 
> > Hi, Steve. Thanks for all your trouble, but I post from the website, where there's no text editing window. (My browser is SeaMonkey, which is very much like the old Netscape. I hate, hate, hate IE!) If I need those characters, I just use the Insert menu in MS Word. Besides, I'd rather do without a tilde than go to the trouble of typing  ALT + 241!
> > 
> > Carol, who is probably both lazy and technologically challenged, :-)!
> >
> 
> 
> Steve:
> 
> I post from the website too, and the above special character were posted in that fashion.
> 
> There are some characters that I use a lot, so I sort of know them by heart. The Pound '?' and Euro '?', for example. As I said, I've got a small list tape at my computer for a quick reminder.
> 
> I can see not wanting to take the trouble for what amounts to one post per year or so, but the method is there if you should need it. 
> 
> Just make sure to use the Number Keypad on the Right, and to enter all four digits. For example the Pound Sign requires you to hold the ALT key down, then, on the Number Keypad, press -
> 
> ZERO ONE SIX THREE
<snip>
> 
> Keep in mind that the extended characters are not standardized between fonts. The old pure ASCII character set had lines and corners for the extended characters. Some fonts have foreign characters as the extended set. So, this works best with standard and very common fonts. 

Carol again:

Ah. I see the problem, I think. I keep NumLock turned off because I don't use the number keypad and find the green light annoying. However, I typed ALT + 241 and got ? (plus or minus) rather than n with a tilde.

But, really, it's too much trouble when I can much more easily use Word's Insert menu in the unlikely event that I need the character ? (cut and pasted from Word).

Carol, trying to imagine what life was like for the first computer users who had to resort to ASCII!




From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Fri Feb 11 20:47:03 2011
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:47:03 -0000
Subject: Typing tildes and all that (Was: Bitter winter)
In-Reply-To: <ij3s11+2jmo@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <ij4787+111uc@eGroups.com>

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "justcarol67" <justcarol67 at ...> wrote:
> 
> Carol again:
> 
> Ah. I see the problem, I think. I keep NumLock turned off because I don't use the number keypad and find the green light annoying. However, I typed ALT + 241 and got ? (plus or minus) rather than n with a tilde.
> 
> But, really, it's too much trouble when I can much more easily use Word's Insert menu in the unlikely event that I need the character ? (cut and pasted from Word).
> 
> Carol, trying to imagine what life was like for the first computer users who had to resort to ASCII!
>

Steve:

Remember, you have to type all FOUR numbers; 0241 is not the same as 241. The '?' character should be 0177 (ALT 0177). It has to be ZERO 241 or ZERO 177. 

I use mostly Currency (?,?, ?), square?, cube?, degree?, and plus/minus?.

Though not well known, the Euro ( ? ) is ALT 0128. 

Steve/bboyminn





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From fenneyml at gmail.com  Thu Feb 24 00:39:06 2011
From: fenneyml at gmail.com (Margaret)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 00:39:06 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter's Trunk and books
Message-ID: <ik49ba+3lp4@eGroups.com>

Hi,

I've been on the books discussion group for a while but just joined here.  I hope I am posting this on the right list.  I just wanted to share the gift that I made for my twin 25 y.o. sons and their girlfriends for Christmas - Harry's trunk and books.  I have pictures on Flickr here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bookcrazzzy/sets/72157625730937783/

I was inspired to do this after we visited the Wizarding World in early November.  I listened to all of the HP books on cassette tape while I did the actual construction of the books and trunks which really added to the enjoyment of the whole thing.  The kids all loved the gifts and one of the girlfriends - the biggest HP fan of all - was literally speechless which was very gratifying! LOL

My husband thought I was nuts but I figured people on this list will share the insanity.

Margie




From lysles3 at aol.com  Thu Feb 24 13:56:25 2011
From: lysles3 at aol.com (lysles3 at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 08:56:25 EST
Subject: Harry Potter's Trunk and books
Message-ID: <274bf.21b1fa09.3a97bd89@aol.com>

I am speechless as well.  What a lovely, lovely, amazing  gift!
 
How long did it take?  All the books on tape?
Thank you for sharing!
 
Hilaire


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From tonyaminton at gmail.com  Thu Feb 24 16:04:21 2011
From: tonyaminton at gmail.com (Tonya Minton)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:04:21 -0600
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter's Trunk and books
In-Reply-To: <274bf.21b1fa09.3a97bd89@aol.com>
References: <274bf.21b1fa09.3a97bd89@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=QNfjSo=9efP0T2Uai0Opd7=Z0oKKPRWh-rW=4@mail.gmail.com>

 Margie said:

I've been on the books discussion group for a while but just joined here. I
hope I am posting this on the right list. I just wanted to share the gift
that I made for my twin 25 y.o. sons and their girlfriends for Christmas -
Harry's trunk and books. I have pictures on Flickr here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bookcrazzzy/sets/72157625730937783/
I was inspired to do this after we visited the Wizarding World in early
November. I listened to all of the HP books on cassette tape while I did the
actual construction of the books and trunks which really added to the
enjoyment of the whole thing. The kids all loved the gifts and one of the
girlfriends - the biggest HP fan of all - was literally speechless which was
very gratifying! LOL
My husband thought I was nuts but I figured people on this list will share
the insanity.

NOW TONYA:

Margie,

WOW!!  Beautiful work!!  I want a set as I am sure everyone on this list
does.  If you decide to make some and sell them please let us know.

Thank you for sharing.

Tonya


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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Thu Feb 24 16:34:44 2011
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mary Hochberg)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:34:44 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Harry Potter's Trunk and books
Message-ID: <8CDA257E08F8507-18CC-40F3@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>


 Margie,

These are great. As a bookmaker myself, I appreciate all the love and work you put into these. Thank you!

Be sure and share them on the Harry Potter Crafts group too. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HarryPotterCrafts/?yguid=2339858


 

---Mary
?The best way to predict the future is to invent it.? ---Alan Kay, computer scientist



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From Mhochberg at aol.com  Thu Feb 24 16:36:58 2011
From: Mhochberg at aol.com (Mary Hochberg)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:36:58 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Harry Potter's Trunk and books
Message-ID: <8CDA2583073EE27-18CC-416B@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com>

Hi again, Margie!

Can you tell us about how you did the contents of each book? Thanks!
 

 

---Mary
?The best way to predict the future is to invent it.? ---Alan Kay, computer scientist



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From fenneyml at gmail.com  Thu Feb 24 21:07:42 2011
From: fenneyml at gmail.com (Margaret Fenney)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:07:42 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter's Trunk and books
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Thanks, Hilaire.  The books on tape started at about 8 hours but grew to at
least twice that long by the Deathly Hallows.  Making the books took me 6
weeks and about half the time was preparing the content and doing the
printing.  The trunks took a week by themselves.  I didn't do much except
work on the books during those weeks and even forgot to fix dinner one night
close to Christmas.  My husband, bless his heart, just quietly went to bed
without food and left me to do my work.  I didn't realize it until the next
day!

Margie

On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 8:56 AM, <lysles3 at aol.com> wrote:

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>
> I am speechless as well. What a lovely, lovely, amazing gift!
>
> How long did it take? All the books on tape?
> Thank you for sharing!
>
> Hilaire
>
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>  
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From fenneyml at gmail.com  Thu Feb 24 21:18:49 2011
From: fenneyml at gmail.com (Margaret Fenney)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:18:49 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter's Trunk and books
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Hi Mary,

3 of the books came directly from JKR - Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find
Them, Quidditch Through The Ages and The Tales of Beedle the Bard, although
I did find or make illustrations of different beasts for FB.

Charm Your Own Cheese is made up of recipes that I found in various places
on the internet.

The Monster Book of Monsters has all of the beasts in FB plus a number of
others with what illustrations I could find or make.

Additional info in the Monster Book and the info in all of the rest of the
books was culled from various internet sites devoted to Harry Potter with a
great deal of editing and some supplementation from a couple of books that I
have on HP.  The easiest were the herbs, spells and potions books.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

As to making more of them, I have had another inquiry but if I made more I
would want to make 4 to 6 sets at one time, rather than 1 or 2, and frankly,
I have no idea what sort of price would be reasonable.  It is a lot of work
and I doubt that I could even make minimum wage doing it!   I'll let you
know, though, if I have more inquiries.

Thanks so much for your comments,

Margie


On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Mary Hochberg <Mhochberg at aol.com> wrote:

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>
> Hi again, Margie!
>
> Can you tell us about how you did the contents of each book? Thanks!
>
>
>
> ---Mary
> ?The best way to predict the future is to invent it.? ---Alan Kay, computer
> scientist
>
>


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From lysles3 at aol.com  Fri Feb 25 15:21:29 2011
From: lysles3 at aol.com (lysles3 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 10:21:29 EST
Subject: Harry Potter's Trunk and books
Message-ID: <1495c.31507881.3a9922f9@aol.com>

I'd love to see some of the pages you made from your books if you  feel 
comfortable sharing those.
 
Hilaire- off to check out the HP crafts group!
 
<<Additional info in the Monster Book and the info in all of the rest  of 
the
books was culled from various internet sites devoted to Harry Potter  with a
great deal of editing and some supplementation from a couple of books  that 
I
have on HP. The easiest were the herbs, spells and potions  books.>>



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From justcarol67 at yahoo.com  Sun Feb 27 14:27:29 2011
From: justcarol67 at yahoo.com (justcarol67)
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:27:29 -0000
Subject: Snow in Tucson!
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Snow is Tucson is a rare event. The last time I remember was about four years ago, also in February, and then it was so slushy as to barely qualify as snow. This morning, it's only a dusting, and it's already starting to melt now that the sun is up, but at least I got some photos.

Carol, under the delusion that she misses the three-foot snows of her childhood in Flagstaff




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From macloudt at yahoo.co.uk  Mon Feb 28 14:32:24 2011
From: macloudt at yahoo.co.uk (macloudt)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 14:32:24 -0000
Subject: Snow in Tucson!
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Carol wrote:

>Carol, under the delusion that she misses the three-foot snows of her >childhood in Flagstaff

When I first moved to England in '95 I was under the illusion that I would miss Canadian winters.  As I discovered when I moved back to Canada from '04 to '06, I most definitely did not!  Now I'm back in England's southwest and perfectly content with the local wimpy winters.  I prefer the cooler summers here, too.

Mary Ann, who does wish it the sun would shine a bit more around here






From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com  Mon Feb 28 23:39:44 2011
From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 23:39:44 -0000
Subject: Snow in Tucson!
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "macloudt" <macloudt at ...> wrote:
>
> Carol wrote:
> 
> >Carol, under the delusion that she misses the three-foot snows of her >childhood in Flagstaff

Mary Ann:
> When I first moved to England in '95 I was under the illusion that I would miss Canadian winters.  As I discovered when I moved back to Canada from '04 to '06, I most definitely did not!  Now I'm back in England's southwest and perfectly content with the local wimpy winters.  I prefer the cooler summers here, too.

Geoff:
Oi! knock it off about the wimpy winters down here.... It's been the worse winter
since about '83. On the coast, we recorded temperatures down to -6 in December 
and January and we've had more than our average takeaway of frost and ice....

It was the first time in 17 years of living in Somerset that I had to dig out my car.