Grammar Question--Why Robes
Geoff
geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com
Fri Jun 24 22:58:06 UTC 2011
--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Margaret Fenney <fenneyml at ...> wrote:
>
> <snip>
> | Bookcrazzzy:
> |
> | The term as used in the HP books is referring not to the robe itself but
> to | the entire outfit required - shirt, tie, robe, etc. - so "dress robes"
> means "dress clothes" or "dress outfit".
>
> [Lee]:
> Okay, but in the book, there's no mention of ties or other accessories, just
> the robe. ...The book mentions no accessories even if they do appear in the
> movies which, IMHO aren't cannon.
> > Bookcrazzzy:
>
> It doesn't matter whether the outfit consists of just a robe or multiple
> pieces of clothing, it is the sense in which the word is used. Lots of
> words have more than one meaning and in this case, "robes" is not the plural
> of "robe" but a word meaning "outfit".
Geoff:
Not in the UK context in which I have met it. Robes in a formal usage, say
by the Queen or a member of the House of Lords might include an under
layer but ties, shirts etc. lie outside this.
It occurred to me after my last post that the usage is rather odd. If I
might refer to "the medium which dare not speak its name", pupils in
the films really wear a gown.
In my grammar school, all the staff wore one of these. They are not an
academic gown which would include a hood and the colour of the
university faculty or discipline but are just a "working" gown for everyday
use and I am surprised that JKR did not call them that. A very few public
schools have retained them as part of school uniform - possibly Eton or
Harrow come to mind.
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