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From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com  Sat Aug  4 22:58:08 2012
From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff)
Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 22:58:08 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter's birthday is coming soon.
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, Corey overton <coverton1982 at ...> wrote:

Corey:
> Hey, just thought I'd post this just for fun. Tuesday will be Harry Potter's birthday. I
> wonder how old he will be?

Geoff:
Canon gives enough information to know that his birthday is, as 
you suggest, 31st July, and that his year of birth is 1980, hence 
he is 32 this year.




From coverton1982 at hotmail.com  Sun Aug  5 03:48:48 2012
From: coverton1982 at hotmail.com (Corey overton)
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2012 22:48:48 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter's birthday is coming soon.
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>> Corey:
>> Hey, just thought I'd post this just for fun. Tuesday will be Harry 
>> Potter's birthday. I wonder how old he will be?

> Geoff:
> Canon gives enough information to know that his birthday is, as
> you suggest, 31st July, and that his year of birth is 1980, hence
> he is 32 this year.


Corey:
Oh okay, that's cool.  Wonder if he has to catch any dark wizards?  
What does canon mean?







From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  5 16:04:27 2012
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (krules)
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 16:04:27 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter's birthday is coming soon.
In-Reply-To: <SNT133-ds183F9A382D68A6ABF44154D5C80@phx.gbl>
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> > Geoff:
> > Canon gives enough information to know that his birthday is, as
> > you suggest, 31st July, and that his year of birth is 1980, hence
> > he is 32 this year.
 
> Corey:
> Oh okay, that's cool.  Wonder if he has to catch any dark wizards?  
> What does canon mean?

Kemper:
Canon is a list sacred text that people base their truth/faith.  In this case, in this case canon refers to the 7 HP books and the 2 companion books.  HP canon is NOT the movies.

Fanon is fiction written by fans.  though, fanon may also be one's personal speculation that one has dwelt upon so long that they actually think they read it in the books.  

For instance, canon shows Hermione has made some morally questionable decisions from books 2-7.  In DH, she states wiping away her parents memories of her.  Canon does not state whether her parents gave consent.  But!  Based on her other decisions in canon, my personal fanon (that's all in my head) has Hermione ripping her parents' memories of her out of their heads.  I'd like to point out that Kloves and/or Yates had the same impression of the canon.  Validation!
But!  Her reprehensible behavior (in this instance) is in my head and in a movie.  It is NOT canon.

Also not canon: whatever the author says about the text.  If it's not written into the story, it's not canon! So, even though canon hinted that Dumbledore was gay, canon never made it evident no mater what JKR says.

Kemper








From geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com  Sun Aug  5 20:03:02 2012
From: geoffbannister123 at btinternet.com (Geoff)
Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2012 20:03:02 -0000
Subject: Harry Potter's birthday is coming soon.
In-Reply-To: <jvm5ib+j1uj@eGroups.com>
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--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "krules" <kempermentor at ...> wrote:

Geoff:
> > > Canon gives enough information to know that his birthday is, as
> > > you suggest, 31st July, and that his year of birth is 1980, hence
> > > he is 32 this year.

Corey:
> > Oh okay, that's cool.  Wonder if he has to catch any dark wizards?  
> > What does canon mean?

Kemper:
> Canon is a list sacred text that people base their truth/faith.  In this case, in this case canon refers to the 7 HP books and the 2 companion books.  HP canon is NOT the movies.

<text snipped>

Geoff:
Just to follow that excellent description from Kemper, here is what I 
mean about canon giving information:

'...Harry picked up a piece of paper that was lying on the table under 
the tea cosy. It was a cutting from the Daily Prophet:

GRINGOTTS BREAK-IN LATEST
Investigations continue into thr break-in at Gringotts on 31 July, 
widely believed to be the work of dark wizards or witches unknown.

<a few lines snipped>

Harry remembered Ron telling him on the train that someone had 
tried to rob Gringotts, but Ron hadn't mentioned the date.

"Hagrid!" said Harry. "That Gringotts break-in happened on my 
birthday! It might've been happening while we were there!"'

(PS "The Potions Master" p.105 UK edition)

That gives direct information about Harry's birthday. Now the year 
of his birth needs a little analysis of careful reading of canon:

'"Well, this Hallowe'en will be my five hundredth deathday." said 
Nearly Headless Nick, drawing himself up and looking dignified.'

(CoS "The Deathday Party" p.99 UK edition)

'...an enormous grey cake in the shape of a tombstone, with 
tar-like icing forming the words.

Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington
died 31st October 1492'

(Same chapter p.102)

So that sets the date as 31st October 1992.  Harry is now in the 
Second Year at Hogwarts in his autumn term. Hogwarts uses one of
the systems for transferring to senior school where the pupil goes into
the First Year in the year in which they reach eleven (known as 11+).
So Harry , having been at Hogwarts for a year is 12 and in the Second 
Year in 1992. Therefore he entered Hogwarts as an eleven year old in 
1991. so his year (and date) of birth was 31/07/1980.




From coverton1982 at hotmail.com  Sun Aug  5 19:46:44 2012
From: coverton1982 at hotmail.com (Corey overton)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 14:46:44 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter's birthday is coming soon.
In-Reply-To: <jvm5ib+j1uj@eGroups.com>
References: <jvm5ib+j1uj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <SNT133-ds893E5D417BF3E6D58F147D5C80@phx.gbl>

>> Corey:
>> What does canon mean?

> Kemper:
> Canon is a list sacred text that people base their truth/faith.  In this 
case, in this case canon refers to the 7 HP books and the 2 companion books. 
> HP canon is NOT the movies.

> Fanon is fiction written by fans.  though, fanon may also be one's personal 
speculation that one has dwelt upon so long that they actually think they 
> read it in the books.

> For instance, canon shows Hermione has made some morally questionable 
decisions from books 2-7.  In DH, she states wiping away her parents 
memories of her.  Canon does not state whether her parents gave consent. 
But!  Based on her other decisions in canon, my personal fanon (that's all 
> in my head) has Hermione ripping her parents' memories of her out of their 
heads.  I'd like to point out that Kloves and/or Yates had the same 
impression of the canon.  Validation!
But!  Her reprehensible behavior (in this instance) is in my head and in a 
> movie.  It is NOT canon.

> Also not canon: whatever the author says about the text.  If it's not 
written into the story, it's not canon! So, even though canon hinted that 
> Dumbledore was gay, canon never made it evident no mater what JKR says.


Corey:
Confusing, but whatever.











From coverton1982 at hotmail.com  Sun Aug  5 20:13:24 2012
From: coverton1982 at hotmail.com (Corey overton)
Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2012 15:13:24 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Harry Potter's birthday is coming soon.
In-Reply-To: <jvmjhm+legn@eGroups.com>
References: <jvmjhm+legn@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <SNT133-ds1728E82374F98F49AF33CED5C80@phx.gbl>

> Geoff:
> Just to follow that excellent description from Kemper, here is what I
mean about canon giving information:

'...Harry picked up a piece of paper that was lying on the table under
the tea cosy. It was a cutting from the Daily Prophet:

GRINGOTTS BREAK-IN LATEST
Investigations continue into thr break-in at Gringotts on 31 July,
widely believed to be the work of dark wizards or witches unknown.

<a few lines snipped>

Harry remembered Ron telling him on the train that someone had
tried to rob Gringotts, but Ron hadn't mentioned the date.

"Hagrid!" said Harry. "That Gringotts break-in happened on my
birthday! It might've been happening while we were there!"'

(PS "The Potions Master" p.105 UK edition)

That gives direct information about Harry's birthday. Now the year
of his birth needs a little analysis of careful reading of canon:

'"Well, this Hallowe'en will be my five hundredth deathday." said
Nearly Headless Nick, drawing himself up and looking dignified.'

(CoS "The Deathday Party" p.99 UK edition)

'...an enormous grey cake in the shape of a tombstone, with
tar-like icing forming the words.

Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington
died 31st October 1492'

(Same chapter p.102)

So that sets the date as 31st October 1992.  Harry is now in the
Second Year at Hogwarts in his autumn term. Hogwarts uses one of
the systems for transferring to senior school where the pupil goes into
the First Year in the year in which they reach eleven (known as 11+).
So Harry , having been at Hogwarts for a year is 12 and in the Second
Year in 1992. Therefore he entered Hogwarts as an eleven year old in
> 1991. so his year (and date) of birth was 31/07/1980.


Corey:
Thanks, that makes it a little easier to understand.







From bboyminn at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  6 20:19:54 2012
From: bboyminn at yahoo.com (Steve)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 20:19:54 -0000
Subject: Hermione - HP's birthday - Canon
In-Reply-To: <jvm5ib+j1uj@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <jvp8ta+kdt4@eGroups.com>



--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "krules" <kempermentor at ...> wrote:
>...
> > Corey:
> > ...
> > What does canon mean?
> 
> Kemper:
> Canon is a list sacred text ...
> 
> For instance, canon shows Hermione has made some morally questionable decisions from books 2-7.  In DH, she states wiping away her parents memories of her.  Canon does not state whether her parents gave consent.  ...
> 
> Kemper
>

Steve:

Doesn't 'Canon' imply that Hermione's wiping of her parents memory was REVERSIBLE. Didn't she say after the war, she would find them in Australia and restore their memories? 

Steve/bboyminn






From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  6 22:18:20 2012
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (krules)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:18:20 -0000
Subject: Hermione - HP's birthday - Canon
In-Reply-To: <jvp8ta+kdt4@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <jvpfrc+ig1g@eGroups.com>


> Kemper:
> Canon is a list sacred text ...
> 
> For instance, canon shows Hermione has made some morally questionable decisions from books 2-7.  In DH, she states wiping away her parents memories of her.  Canon does not state whether her parents gave consent.  ...

> Steve:
> Doesn't 'Canon' imply that Hermione's wiping of her parents memory was REVERSIBLE. Didn't she say after the war, she would find them in Australia and restore their memories? 

Kemper:
I don't have my canon at hand, but iirc, she does mention something like that.  

I'm okay with Herminone wiping away her parents memories iff the parents gave consent.  I can't imagine any loving parent allowing that, but either way canon remains silent on the issue.  Yet due to some of  Hemione's other actions within canon,  I suspect that consent was not expressly given.  To me, her plan to find her folks and restore their memories does not make the earlier modification any less reprehensible. 

Kemper





From fenneyml at gmail.com  Mon Aug  6 22:55:54 2012
From: fenneyml at gmail.com (Margaret)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 22:55:54 -0000
Subject: Hermione - HP's birthday - Canon
In-Reply-To: <jvpfrc+ig1g@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <jvpi1q+tujh@eGroups.com>

Hermione implanted false memories to make her parents think they were different people (who didn't have a daughter) and that they wanted to go to Australia.  That is different from obliviate which destroys the memory and is irreversible.  

Hermione's parents were muggles and completely defenseless against the death eaters.  How do you think she should have protected them?

According to JKR, Hermione did find her parents and remove the charm after the war was over.

Margie

--- In HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com, "krules" <kempermentor at ...> wrote:
>
> 
> > Kemper:
> > Canon is a list sacred text ...
> > 
> > For instance, canon shows Hermione has made some morally questionable decisions from books 2-7.  In DH, she states wiping away her parents memories of her.  Canon does not state whether her parents gave consent.  ...
> 
> > Steve:
> > Doesn't 'Canon' imply that Hermione's wiping of her parents memory was REVERSIBLE. Didn't she say after the war, she would find them in Australia and restore their memories? 
> 
> Kemper:
> I don't have my canon at hand, but iirc, she does mention something like that.  
> 
> I'm okay with Herminone wiping away her parents memories iff the parents gave consent.  I can't imagine any loving parent allowing that, but either way canon remains silent on the issue.  Yet due to some of  Hemione's other actions within canon,  I suspect that consent was not expressly given.  To me, her plan to find her folks and restore their memories does not make the earlier modification any less reprehensible. 
> 
> Kemper
>





From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  6 23:36:27 2012
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (krules)
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 23:36:27 -0000
Subject: Hermione - HP's birthday - Canon
In-Reply-To: <jvpi1q+tujh@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <jvpkdr+oc08@eGroups.com>


> Margie:
> Hermione implanted false memories to make her parents think they were different people (who didn't have a daughter) and that they wanted to go to Australia.  That is different from obliviate which destroys the memory and is irreversible.  
> 
> Hermione's parents were muggles and completely defenseless against the death eaters.  How do you think she should have protected them?
> 
> According to JKR, Hermione did find her parents and remove the charm after the war was over.

Kemper:
The parents didn't have access to their original memories regardless if the memories were obliterated or not.

She should have advised her adult parents on the life and death situation she and her folks were in and share with them her idea of them moving to Australia.  Then, respect whatever decision they made.  Magic is not Might.

JKR's statements regarding the books or what happened before or after the books took place may be interesting, but those statements are not canon.

Kemper




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Tue Aug  7 00:40:27 2012
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force))
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 20:40:27 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Hermione - HP's birthday - Canon
In-Reply-To: <jvpfrc+ig1g@eGroups.com>
References: <jvp8ta+kdt4@eGroups.com> <jvpfrc+ig1g@eGroups.com>
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| > Steve:
| > Doesn't 'Canon' imply that Hermione's wiping of her parents 
| memory was REVERSIBLE. Didn't she say after the war, she 
| would find them in Australia and restore their memories? 
| 
| Kemper:
| I don't have my canon at hand, but iirc, she does mention 
| something like that.  
| 
| I'm okay with Herminone wiping away her parents memories iff 
| the parents gave consent.  I can't imagine any loving parent 
| allowing that, but either way canon remains silent on the 
| issue.  Yet due to some of  Hemione's other actions within 
| canon,  I suspect that consent was not expressly given.  To 
| me, her plan to find her folks and restore their memories 
| does not make the earlier modification any less reprehensible. 

[Lee]:
I don't know...there are times we need to do things to protect those we love
which might seem a bit over the line, so to speak, and sometimes a lot over
the line.  If her folks don't have a real comprehension of the danger, her
actions might have been the only way she could think to protect them, get
them out of harm's way, and know they'd be safe until such time as either
Voldemort was dead or she could find a way to join them.

I believe she loves her folks a lot and would do anything to ensure their
safety even if it means resorting to some "heavy-duty" methods.  Also, if
her parents had been caught by Voldemort's minions, they wouldn't be able to
give away her whereabouts.

Hope I'm making sense.

Smile,

Lee




From n2fgc at arrl.net  Tue Aug  7 00:49:54 2012
From: n2fgc at arrl.net (Lee Storm (God Is The Healing Force))
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 20:49:54 -0400
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Re: Hermione - HP's birthday - Canon
In-Reply-To: <jvpkdr+oc08@eGroups.com>
References: <jvpi1q+tujh@eGroups.com> <jvpkdr+oc08@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <B17DF2AE61FA4217B25A44BD89AEBF4E@Dobby>

| > Margie:
| > Hermione implanted false memories to make her parents think 
| they were different people (who didn't have a daughter) and 
| that they wanted to go to Australia.  That is different from 
| obliviate which destroys the memory and is irreversible.  
| > 
| > Hermione's parents were muggles and completely defenseless 
| against the death eaters.  How do you think she should have 
| protected them?
| > 
| > According to JKR, Hermione did find her parents and remove 
| the charm after the war was over.
| 
| Kemper:
| The parents didn't have access to their original memories 
| regardless if the memories were obliterated or not.
| 
| She should have advised her adult parents on the life and 
| death situation she and her folks were in and share with them 
| her idea of them moving to Australia.  Then, respect whatever 
| decision they made.  Magic is not Might.

[Lee]:
Right, Kemper, and if their understanding of the situation was as good as
the Dursleys, and we know she loved her parents a lot more than Harry loved
the Dursleys, she did what she could to protect them and get them the heck
out of the country.

I repeat, if Mr. and Mrs. Granger, who do love their daughter but don't seem
to know a whole lot about the magical world, don't understand the danger to
themselves or Hermione, and since Hermione's of age in the Magical world,
Hermione feels duty-bound to protect those she loves in whatever way she
can, and protect herself, too.

Smile,

Lee




From fenneyml at gmail.com  Tue Aug  7 02:44:32 2012
From: fenneyml at gmail.com (Margaret)
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 02:44:32 -0000
Subject: Hermione - HP's birthday - Canon
In-Reply-To: <jvpkdr+oc08@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <jvpveg+m3ad@eGroups.com>

> Kemper:
> The parents didn't have access to their original memories regardless if the memories were obliterated or not.
> 
> She should have advised her adult parents on the life and death situation she and her folks were in and share with them her idea of them moving to Australia.  Then, respect whatever decision they made.  Magic is not Might.
> 
> JKR's statements regarding the books or what happened before or after the books took place may be interesting, but those statements are not canon.
> 
> Kemper

Margie:
The fact that the charm Hermione used was reversible is, I think, rather important.

Hermione's parents were muggles who could not possibly understand the enormity of the situation, the danger to themselves or the danger that they posed to Hermione and her friends.  They could not and would not abandon Hermione and yet, as long as they were near, they were not only in danger but were endangering Hermione and, by extension, the whole wizarding world.  By implanting false memories, Hermione made her parents useless to the death eaters and by getting them out of the country, she made everyone much safer.  

It is not a matter of "magic is might".  It is a matter of protecting people.   

I'm aware of the fact that JKR's statements outside of the books aren't canon; I stated it the way that I did in order to make that distinction.

JMO,
Margie




From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  7 03:29:00 2012
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (krules)
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 03:29:00 -0000
Subject: Hermione - HP's birthday - Canon
In-Reply-To: <B17DF2AE61FA4217B25A44BD89AEBF4E@Dobby>
Message-ID: <jvq21s+asb9@eGroups.com>


> | Kemper:
> | The parents didn't have access to their original memories 
> | regardless if the memories were obliterated or not.
> | 
> | She should have advised her adult parents on the life and 
> | death situation she and her folks were in and share with them 
> | her idea of them moving to Australia.  Then, respect whatever 
> | decision they made.  Magic is not Might.
 
> [Lee]:
> ...
> I repeat, if Mr. and Mrs. Granger, who do love their daughter but don't seem to know a whole lot about the magical world, don't understand the danger to themselves or Hermione, ...

Kemper:
I don't buy into a Mr and Mrs Granger not being able to grasp the severity of the situation.  I get that with the Dursley's.  

Grin :)
Kemper




From kempermentor at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  7 03:46:04 2012
From: kempermentor at yahoo.com (krules)
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 03:46:04 -0000
Subject: Hermione - HP's birthday - Canon
In-Reply-To: <jvpveg+m3ad@eGroups.com>
Message-ID: <jvq31s+2rh8@eGroups.com>


> > Kemper:
> > The parents didn't have access to their original memories regardless if the memories were obliterated or not.
> > 
> > She should have advised her adult parents on the life and death situation she and her folks were in and share with them her idea of them moving to Australia.  Then, respect whatever decision they made.  Magic is not Might.

> Margie:
> The fact that the charm Hermione used was reversible is, I think, rather important.

Kemper:
The reversibility of the charm is irrelevant if consent wasn't given.

> Margie (cont.):
> Hermione's parents were muggles who could not possibly understand the enormity of the situation, the danger to themselves or the danger that they posed to Hermione and her friends.  They could not and would not abandon Hermione and yet, as long as they were near, they were not only in danger but were endangering Hermione and, by extension, the whole wizarding world.  By implanting false memories, Hermione made her parents useless to the death eaters and by getting them out of the country, she made everyone much safer.  

Kemper:
As I wrote to Lee, I don't buy into the Granger's being able to grasp the grimness of the situation.  I totally buy into the Dursley's being so inept.

I can see the Granger's not wanting to abandon their daughter, but I think they would recognize that:
a) she would disapparate away from them anyway,
b) their presence would put her life at risk,
c) her plan for them to move to Australia makes complete sense.
So no need for a consentless memory mod.  But if consent was given; good on Hermione!

> Margie:
> It is not a matter of "magic is might".  It is a matter of protecting people.   

Kemper:
And... that's how it starts.  And by 'it', I mean 'taking away basic human rights'.

Kemper





From coverton1982 at hotmail.com  Mon Aug  6 22:10:40 2012
From: coverton1982 at hotmail.com (Corey overton)
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 17:10:40 -0500
Subject: [HPFGU-OTChatter] Hermione - HP's birthday - Canon
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References: <jvp8ta+kdt4@eGroups.com>
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> Steve:
>
> Doesn't 'Canon' imply that Hermione's wiping of her parents memory was 
> REVERSIBLE. Didn't she say after the war, she would find them in Australia 
> and restore their memories?


Corey:
Yes, as a matter of fact she did say that--Hermione, that is.





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Subject: Weekly Chat, 8/12/2012, 1:00 pm 
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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sat Aug 18 18:01:15 2012
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 18 Aug 2012 18:01:15 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 8/19/2012, 1:00 pm 
Message-ID: <1345312875.18.60619.m5@yahoogroups.com>

Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/cal

Weekly Chat
Sunday August 19, 2012
1:00 pm - 2:00 pm

Notes:
Location: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 
Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour.

To get to the HPfGU room follow this link:
http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574

Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want
to be called.

Enter the password: hpfguchat

Click "Join Chat" on the lower right.

Chat start times:
11 am Pacific US
12 noon Mountain US
1 pm Central US
2 pm Eastern US
7 pm UK



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From HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com  Sat Aug 25 18:01:10 2012
From: HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com (HPFGU-OTChatter at yahoogroups.com)
Date: 25 Aug 2012 18:01:10 -0000
Subject: Weekly Chat, 8/26/2012, 1:00 pm 
Message-ID: <1345917670.8.42378.m7@yahoogroups.com>

Reminder from: HPFGU-OTChatter Yahoo! Group
 http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTChatter/cal

Weekly Chat
Sunday August 26, 2012
1:00 pm - 2:00 pm

Notes:
Location: http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574 
Just a reminder, Sunday chat starts in about one hour.

To get to the HPfGU room follow this link:
http://www.chatzy.com/792755223574

Create a user name for yourself, whatever you want
to be called.

Enter the password: hpfguchat

Click "Join Chat" on the lower right.

Chat start times:
11 am Pacific US
12 noon Mountain US
1 pm Central US
2 pm Eastern US
7 pm UK



All Rights Reserved
 Copyright  2012 
 Yahoo! Inc.
 http://www.yahoo.com

Privacy Policy:
 http://privacy.yahoo.com/privacy/us

Terms of Service:
 http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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