Teachers searching the students in NY schools for Shawn
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 4 18:11:17 UTC 2012
This is the extension of conversation from main, which I could not connect with Potterverse. Shawn, I was interested to learn and frankly relieved to learn that it seems (according to my colleague, I have no personal knowledge of that yet - kid in my family is in first grade and nobody else attended american school yet in my family) that teachers in NY public schools at least have to have *really* reasonable suspicion before they would attempt to search especially a teenager, especially a high school student. They are entitled to certain protections according to my colleague, they are entitled to certain rights, of course the older they get, the more rights they get, but it certainly applies to teenagers according to him. When I posed a question about teacher being allowed to search the student, he told me that reasonable suspicion should be that of a reasonable person, not say "paranoid schizofrenic person" - his words, not mine.
And even when teacher thinks that kid has a bulge in his clothes when looks suspiciously like a gun or a knife, sure teacher better ask to show it to him, but if kid refuses, you know what happens? According to my colleague anyway, he still cannot *force* the kid (or teenager) to show it to him, he has to call guidance counsellor, dean ( one or both I am not sure) and ask again, and if teen refuses they would call his parents and of course can suspect him then.
And they are not allowed to search the student if they dont like how student looks, or talks, or walks (thats obvious of course, but I am just typing everything I learned from him).
And he said that of course when he was standing in loco parentis, he for example could not keep the secrets of the student who would come to him and confess of something illegal, but before student wanted to talk to him about something personal, according to him he *warned* the student every time that by law he may not be able to keep his secrets, if it is something illegal.
It definitely does not sound as what Snape was doing to Harry to me.
Alla
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