From eli250 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 00:01:00 2000 From: eli250 at yahoo.com (eli250 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:01:00 -0500 Subject: So here is a new thread...I think Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C841 From: eli250 Subject: Re: So here is a new thread...I think Reply To: [Yahoo! #836] Re: So here is a new thread...I think Date: 3/31/00 7:01 pm (ET) I am a soon to graduate special education major. I stumbled upon the books when I was student teaching. My cooperating teacher had asked me to read one of the books to the class. I was hooked almost immediately and read all three within a week and a half. I then convinced all of my family members, none under 25 to read the books and of course they loved them as well From eli250 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 00:09:00 2000 From: eli250 at yahoo.com (eli250 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:09:00 -0500 Subject: Can it be Ron? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C842 From: eli250 Subject: Re: Can it be Ron? Reply To: [Yahoo! #828] Can it be Ron? Date: 3/31/00 7:09 pm (ET) There is a rumor that it will be one of the Weasley twins From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 00:45:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:45:00 -0500 Subject: Chat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C843 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Chat Date: 3/31/00 7:45 pm (ET) Hi: Sorry can't make the chat tonight as it sounds like lots of people are planning on it. We're having our pastor and wife & others from church over for dinner so I'm doubting I'll wrap up in time to join in. Y'all have fun! Penny From itm55 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 01:28:00 2000 From: itm55 at yahoo.com (itm55 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 20:28:00 -0500 Subject: So here is a new thread...I think Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C844 From: itm55 Subject: Re: So here is a new thread...I think Reply To: [Yahoo! #822] So here is a new thread...I think Date: 3/31/00 8:28 pm (ET) I found out about them on the Rosie O'Donnell show. She praised the first book before J. K. Rowling ever appeared on her show. From janey_13 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 04:39:00 2000 From: janey_13 at yahoo.com (janey_13 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 23:39:00 -0500 Subject: So here is a new thread...I think Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C845 From: janey_13 Subject: Re: So here is a new thread...I think Reply To: [Yahoo! #822] So here is a new thread...I think Date: 3/31/00 11:39 pm (ET) I read about the first book in entertainment weekly magazine early last year. From mr_beckhorn at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 06:09:00 2000 From: mr_beckhorn at yahoo.com (mr_beckhorn at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 01:09:00 -0500 Subject: To Voicelady Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C846 From: mr_beckhorn Subject: To Voicelady Date: 4/1/00 1:09 am (ET) Oh look it is past midnight, time for all the witches to come out, ha ha! I just wanted to say that I really thought hard aobut what you and everyone else said and I think you are right Harry Potter books are not all bad. There's a lot of good things about him, I'll mention two or three: He is well mannered. He is loyal to his frends. Oh here is a good one, he is responsible! He has all of that money in his witch bank and saves it instead of spending it all because he knows it has to last him for a long time. After all, you're never too old to never need gold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And the way he talks to other folks when they're feeling blue. Yes, there's lots of good things about him, it's true. So I am sorry if I caused troulbe and I will not be posting here anymore, thank you all for the discussion, even though most of the time, no matter what, we probably won't agree! Have a splendid first day of April. From quidditchfan at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 14:29:00 2000 From: quidditchfan at yahoo.com (quidditchfan at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 09:29:00 -0500 Subject: So here is a new thread...I think Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C847 From: quidditchfan Subject: Re: So here is a new thread...I think Reply To: [Yahoo! #845] Re: So here is a new thread...I think Date: 4/1/00 9:29 am (ET) I heard about Harry Potter from a Children's Lit list I was on last year. From norevoli at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 19:12:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 14:12:00 -0500 Subject: So here is a new thread...I think Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C848 From: norevoli Subject: Re: So here is a new thread...I think Reply To: [Yahoo! #847] Re: So here is a new thread...I think Date: 4/1/00 2:12 pm (ET) I heard about it on Rosie, but I sort of figured it would be like most children's books... I don't know if you guys noticed this but some children's writers narrate the story as if they are talking at a really stupid person, (I had a Chemistry Teacher like that, she would speak to us like we were two years old) but that's probably one reason why kids and adults love this book. JKR's narrative voice is intriguing, she tells the story as if she were telling it to people of many different ages, and not as if these kids who are reading it are naive little people who have absolutely no idea about reality and all the things that go on it. Anyway I picked up PoA first (my local book store didn't have the other 2) ... loved that so much that I picked up book 2... and then, finally found book 1!! So I sort of went backwards about it... but of course to straighten myself out, I went forwards and that's when i saw all the little bits and pieces of info that were crucial in the next 2 books... like that Whomping willow tree... who knew that's what it would be! anyway now I'm hooked and i've got atleast 10 other kids in my highschool hooked too!! I've even got a teacher reading it... which reminds me, i need to get my book back from him... From norevoli at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 19:18:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 14:18:00 -0500 Subject: Other kiddie books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C849 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Other kiddie books Reply To: [Yahoo! #817] Re: Other kiddie books Date: 4/1/00 2:18 pm (ET) You know, I've been wanting to pick up a Wrinkle in Time for so long!! anyway, I don't know if this book is available in the US... I'm not sure if this writer is Canadian or not, but the book is called Bridge to Terabithia (I know I didn't spell that right!) I haven't read the book in years but I really still remember the way the story touched my heart, its very cute and sad at the same time. My cousins and siblings all like to talk about it, almost like its the first book that meant something, one that wasn't just telling a story but a lesson too. Now I might be hyping this book up too much ( i haven't read it in years) but I think i"ll pick up a copy and I"ll tell you if my mind's changed about it. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 20:49:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 15:49:00 -0500 Subject: Dear "Mr Beckhorn" Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C850 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Dear "Mr Beckhorn" Reply To: [Yahoo! #846] To Voicelady Date: 4/1/00 3:49 pm (ET) Just look in the dictionary under the word "gullible" and there you will see my picture! Hey, Voicelady, did you know the word gullible isn't in the dictionary? No, really?! Anyway, you are a nasty, nasty man to involve innocent bystanders in your April Fool's prank. But, I have to admit, it was pure, evil genius! You don't happen to have a white cat, do you? Folks, he failed to "get" me at all last year, but he certainly made up for it this year. I fell hook, line and sinker. He knew I would be one of the vocal ones (hence, one of the reasons for my name). He even knew that I thought that "Mr Beckhorn" was one of us trying to stir things up a bit. Jeralynks, the first to respond to him, even asked if he was joking. Well, he certainly was! But, I am going to choose to be flattered, becasue he cartainly took a lot of time and research to set it all up. My hat is off to you. Pure brilliance. Oh, by the way, don't be expecting me to take you out for pizza anytime soon (heh heh heh...) From norevoli at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 20:58:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 15:58:00 -0500 Subject: Weasley twins Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C851 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Weasley twins Reply To: [Yahoo! #815] Re: Weasley twins Date: 4/1/00 3:58 pm (ET) I think you guys are very right about how the twins seem to represent one unit. In that way they sort of remind me of twins in "Lord of the Flies" the boys could never distinguish which one was SAm and which one was Eric so they just lumped them together and called them "Samneric" But for me it seems that Fred's more dominant when I read the book, I think mainly because he's shows this certain fondest for one of the Team's Chasers, (I think its Alicia Spinnet... wasn't it Fred who sort of stuck up for her during a quidditch game in the third book? I can't reference cuz I still don't have my book back!!) but I do know that it was Fred's head who drooped onto her shoulder when Oliver launched into his quidditch tactics speech in Mudbloods and Murmurs in book 2. ( but that might not be proof of him having a fondness for her.) anyway that's my thinking on the twins, but I will really really really miss one of them if they die!! (but not as much as Ron of course!!) From norevoli at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 21:03:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 16:03:00 -0500 Subject: Dear Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C852 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Dear Reply To: [Yahoo! #850] Dear "Mr Beckhorn" Date: 4/1/00 4:03 pm (ET) Maybe its just me but... HUH? who is this guy? do you know him voicelady?? confused (alright, verrry confused!) Norevoli From norevoli at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 21:05:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 16:05:00 -0500 Subject: Alicia Spinnet Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C853 From: norevoli Subject: Alicia Spinnet Date: 4/1/00 4:05 pm (ET) so sorry to post AGAIN but I just remember seeing a post where some says that we don't know how old the Chasers are on Gryfinndor... one we do know the age of is Alicia Spinnet... she's a fourth year in book 2 (look in the chapter Mudbloods and Murmurs..) ...okay I'll shut up now... From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 21:51:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 16:51:00 -0500 Subject: Dear Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C854 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Dear Reply To: [Yahoo! #852] Re: Dear Date: 4/1/00 4:51 pm (ET) Yes, I do know him. He is a friend of mine who just LOVES to play pranks on me. Up until now, he's failed to ever pull one over on me. I am extremely sorry that you all were caught up in it. His last post contained referencs that only I would get. If you'd like for me to leave the club because of this, I will understand. It was unfair for all of you, becasue book banning and lack of respet for others' opinions is a serious concern. I enjoy posting here and sharing opinions with you all, but if you feel uncomfortable with me here, that's okay. I can leave the club if you all feel that this would be best. From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 21:59:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 16:59:00 -0500 Subject: Alicia Spinnet Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C855 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Alicia Spinnet Reply To: [Yahoo! #853] Alicia Spinnet Date: 4/1/00 4:59 pm (ET) <I just remember seeing a post where some says that we don't know how old the Chasers are on Gryfinndor... one we do know the age of is Alicia Spinnet... she's a fourth year in book 2 > Yes, you're right. I was the one who thought they were a year ahead of the twins. But I just got to the same passage listening to the tape in the car. I think there was another passage somewhere that had all three chasers in the same year. Melanie From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 22:02:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 17:02:00 -0500 Subject: Dear Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C856 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Dear Reply To: [Yahoo! #854] Re: Dear Date: 4/1/00 5:02 pm (ET) <I enjoy posting here and sharing opinions with you all, but if you feel uncomfortable with me here, that's okay. I can leave the club if you all feel that this would be best.> Not at all; you can't be responsible for others' pranks. I, for one, love to see what you have to add, and would like to see you stay. Melanie From darwinnyc at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 22:37:00 2000 From: darwinnyc at yahoo.com (darwinnyc at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 17:37:00 -0500 Subject: Other kiddie books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C857 From: darwinnyc Subject: Re: Other kiddie books Reply To: [Yahoo! #849] Re: Other kiddie books Date: 4/1/00 5:37 pm (ET) Bridge to Terabithia rocked! From darwinnyc at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 22:41:00 2000 From: darwinnyc at yahoo.com (darwinnyc at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 17:41:00 -0500 Subject: Dear Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C858 From: darwinnyc Subject: Re: Dear Reply To: [Yahoo! #856] Re: Dear Date: 4/1/00 5:41 pm (ET) Yeah, sheesh, don't leave! Not your fault if you have friends who are jerkfaces. Although, I kind of thought it was funny. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 22:47:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 17:47:00 -0500 Subject: Dear Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C859 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Dear Reply To: [Yahoo! #854] Re: Dear Date: 4/1/00 5:47 pm (ET) No, don't leave Voicelady! I for one am just relieved that an anti-Harry Potter person really didn't infiltrate our club. <g> I found that thought worrisome. He was quite convincing, wasn't he? And, we posted more messages this past week than in any other one-week period! Penny (99 days left until July 8th!) From darwinnyc at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 22:56:00 2000 From: darwinnyc at yahoo.com (darwinnyc at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 17:56:00 -0500 Subject: Hey, I thought of something today. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C860 From: darwinnyc Subject: Hey, I thought of something today. Date: 4/1/00 5:56 pm (ET) Why don't Harry's parents ever pop up as ghosts? Or has that been explained and I'm forgetting? Another thing - what's the deal with the photographs, exactly? They move, they wave, they visit each other - does that mean they're sort of "clones?" Are the figures in the pictures, like, intelligent? Lilly and James are dead, but there they are in the photo smiling and waving - so, are they really gone, or not? Fa la la. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 23:48:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 18:48:00 -0500 Subject: Hey, I thought of something today. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C861 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Hey, I thought of something today. Reply To: [Yahoo! #860] Hey, I thought of something today. Date: 4/1/00 6:48 pm (ET) <Why don't Harry's parents ever pop up as ghosts? Or has that been explained and I'm forgetting?> It's my understanding that the ghosts in the HP books have some "unfinished business." I would think though that checking in on their son might qualify as unfinished business. Hmmm. The Photos: didn't Colin Creavy say something about developing a photo in a special way so that it would be a wizard photo rather than just a standard muggle photo? I think it's just that the pictures are "animated." Remember all those photos of Gilderoy Lockhart in hair curlers and hair nets? <g> Good questions -- Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Apr 1 23:53:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 18:53:00 -0500 Subject: Potter/Voldemort Connections Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C862 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Potter/Voldemort Connections Date: 4/1/00 6:53 pm (ET) Hi: Just posted this to the harrypotteranonymous onelist, so I apologize to those of you who are on both lists/boards. Is there much overlap? I'm always concerned that I'm posting about something that's already been discussed: I can't keep the 3 HP lists that I'm on straight in my mind. <g> A friend (who I've been trying to persuade to join this group) and I were discussing the question of whether the similarities between Voldemort and Harry might indicate a familial relationship of some sort. I think the evidence is overwhelming that Harry's biological parents are James & Lily Potter. I would imagine Rowling wanted to be sure that people didn't start thinking that it would be revealed that Harry is Voldemort's son or something. But, could he be a grandson of Voldemort?? I know it's been discussed on this board or on the harrypotteranonymous listserve whether there could be a family relationship between Voldemort and Harry through Lily Potter's family. It was suggested that maybe Tom Riddle's muggle father might have remarried and had Lily & Petunia. But, I thought that was probably unlikely since in Chamber Voldemort (Riddle) is 66 and so his father would be at least 84. Lily Potter would have been 30-42 at that time, had she lived (assuming she had Harry sometime between the ages of 18-30). So, it seems to me that it would be a stretch to try and argue that the man who fathered Tom Riddle also fathered Lily Potter (which would make Voldemort Harry's half-uncle if true). But, in relating all of this to my friend, it occurred to me that there could be a familial relationship through Harry's father's side. The Potter surname is the problem. If Voldemort were James Potter's father for example, how did James end up with the surname Potter? I conjectured that maybe Riddle fathered James and, as his muggle father had done, he abandoned James' mother. James' mother than remarried (a man named Potter), and James took his stepfather (or adopted father's)surname. The physical similarities between Voldemort and Harry are, after all, similarities that James would share as well (black hair, slender build). Thoughts? Penny From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 01:07:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 20:07:00 -0500 Subject: Dear Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C863 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Dear Reply To: [Yahoo! #858] Re: Dear Date: 4/1/00 8:07 pm (ET) <<Yeah, sheesh, don't leave! Not your fault if you have friends who are jerkfaces. Although, I kind of thought it was funny.>> Thanks, guys. I really didn't want to go. I enjoy you all and our conversations so much. To quote Sally Field, "You like me!" And yes, it was kind of funny to think that someone out there would be so extremely anti-Harry and continue to try to change our minds when we so obviously see these books as something very special. Okay then! The day is pretty much over - only 98 days now! From norevoli at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 02:43:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 21:43:00 -0500 Subject: Potter/Voldemort Connections Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C864 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Potter/Voldemort Connections Reply To: [Yahoo! #862] Potter/Voldemort Connections Date: 4/1/00 9:43 pm (ET) you know i've thought about these similarities before. But the only thing that sort of messes it up is the fact that someone said (I believe it t'was Dumbledore) that Tom Riddle was Slytherin's last heir, so if James really were related, Harry would be the new slytherin heir.( In book 2, I think... I'd reference but my books hiding on me again!! ) I know that dumbledore has already promised us that he wouldn't lie when Harry and he have their little discussions, so i think that from his knowledge that Voldemort was last slytherin heir, then we can safely assume that Harry isn't related to Voldemort... am I right? From harrypotterct at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 02:47:00 2000 From: harrypotterct at yahoo.com (harrypotterct at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 21:47:00 -0500 Subject: Response is on tarket and eloquent Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C865 From: harrypotterct Subject: Re: Response is on tarket and eloquent Reply To: [Yahoo! #717] Re: Response is on tarket and eloquent Date: 4/1/00 9:47 pm (ET) Hey Mr. B. Quite an assumption - that I don't believe in God. Actually, I'm a regular church member and gasp- upstanding member of society - a teacher actually. \ Please leave this upbeat, positive site. Your negative attitude and lack of understanding is sad and depressing. Harry From norevoli at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 02:53:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 21:53:00 -0500 Subject: Dear Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C866 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Dear Reply To: [Yahoo! #863] Re: Dear Date: 4/1/00 9:53 pm (ET) yay your staying!! norevoli From mr_beckhorn at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 03:49:00 2000 From: mr_beckhorn at yahoo.com (mr_beckhorn at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 22:49:00 -0500 Subject: Response is on tarket and eloquent Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C867 From: mr_beckhorn Subject: Re: Response is on tarket and eloquent Reply To: [Yahoo! #865] Re: Response is on tarket and eloquent Date: 4/1/00 10:49 pm (ET) Call it a hunch, but I think you've convinced him. From arawa_99 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 04:24:00 2000 From: arawa_99 at yahoo.com (arawa_99 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 23:24:00 -0500 Subject: Dear Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C868 From: arawa_99 Subject: Re: Dear Reply To: [Yahoo! #866] Re: Dear Date: 4/1/00 11:24 pm (ET) Loved it! Got us all! Voicelady please dont leave! From ericsbeanies at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 13:21:00 2000 From: ericsbeanies at yahoo.com (ericsbeanies at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 09:21:00 -0400 Subject: Immature Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C869 From: ericsbeanies Subject: Immature Date: 4/2/00 9:21 am (ET) I have just been reading all of your posts. HOW IMMATURE! Just because of one person, everyone is against one another. I'm about ready to get a RAHPE Representative out here to deal with this. From ashley_mcbrein at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 14:55:00 2000 From: ashley_mcbrein at yahoo.com (ashley_mcbrein at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 10:55:00 -0400 Subject: Immature Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C870 From: ashley_mcbrein Subject: Re: Immature Reply To: [Yahoo! #869] Immature Date: 4/2/00 10:55 am (ET) I'm here. I'm going to read the last few(30) posts and then post again. I'm RAHPE secondary leader, Sally O'Shannon. RAHPE (Readers Against Harry Potter Exile) was started a few months ago. The soal purpose is to keep anti-harry potter people from getting the books off the Library shelves and banned out of school. Sally O'Shannon http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/rahpeheadquarters From ashley_mcbrein at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 15:15:00 2000 From: ashley_mcbrein at yahoo.com (ashley_mcbrein at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 11:15:00 -0400 Subject: Immature Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C871 From: ashley_mcbrein Subject: Re: Immature Reply To: [Yahoo! #870] Re: Immature Date: 4/2/00 11:15 am (ET) Eric, I See NO reason to deal in anyway with this club, it was only a simple April Fool's Prank. Nobody has turned against each other. Well, I g2g and run a few (dozen) clubs. Sally O'Shannon RAHPE Secondary Leader http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/rapheheadquarters From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 16:29:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 12:29:00 -0400 Subject: Immature Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C872 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Immature Reply To: [Yahoo! #871] Re: Immature Date: 4/2/00 12:29 pm (ET) <Nobody has turned against each other.> Quite right. In fact, I think it actually brought even more cohesion to the group as a whole. And the more I think about it, the funnier I find it! Last Friday night in our chat room, the few of us there even talked about the situation. Simple April Fool's prank? I tend to think it was rather elaborate and well thought out! Okay, now that it's all over, I have a new game. And I'm going to put you all on the honor system. No checking your books. Here we go: Who said the following, and which book is it from?: "Harry,I've just found out who Ravenclaw is playing as Seeker. It's Cho Chang. She's a fourth year, and she's pretty good." "It's been here all the time!" "He said he'd been looking for someone to pratice that on." "Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see where it keeps its brain." "If you can speak of your beatings in that casual way, they clearly aren't hitting you hard enough." Ready - GO! From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 17:06:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 13:06:00 -0400 Subject: Immature Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C873 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Immature Reply To: [Yahoo! #872] Re: Immature Date: 4/2/00 1:06 pm (ET) Hi: I agree with Voicelady -- I think "Mr Beckhorn" had the effect of bringing more cohesion to the group. And did anyone else notice that we posted about 150 messages in 6-7 days? On to the Quiz: <"Harry,I've just found out who Ravenclaw is playing as Seeker. It's Cho Chang. She's a fourth year, and she's pretty good."> Oliver Wood to Harry -- Prisoner of Azkaban <"It's been here all the time!"> I'm stumped on this one! If I think of it later, I'll post it. But for now, beats me! <"He said he'd been looking for someone to pratice that on."> Neville Longbottom to Harry, Ron & Hermione -- Sorcerer's Stone <"Never trust anything that can think for itself if you can't see where it keeps its brain."> Arthur Weasley to Ginny -- Chamber of Secrets "If you can speak of your beatings in that casual way, they clearly aren't hitting you hard enough."> Marge Dursley to Harry -- Prisoner of Azkaban I didn't check my books -- I promise! How'd I do? Penny From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 17:40:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 13:40:00 -0400 Subject: Voicelady's quiz Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C874 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Voicelady's quiz Reply To: [Yahoo! #873] Re: Immature Date: 4/2/00 1:40 pm (ET) Penny - 4 out of 5! And I'm betting you'll come up with the last one soon enough. Any other takers in the meantime? And I added those last two in, because I think they're some of the funniest quotes in the books. From arawa_99 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 19:24:00 2000 From: arawa_99 at yahoo.com (arawa_99 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 15:24:00 -0400 Subject: Voicelady's quiz Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C875 From: arawa_99 Subject: Re: Voicelady's quiz Reply To: [Yahoo! #874] Re: Voicelady's quiz Date: 4/2/00 3:24 pm (ET) OK - total guess - is that other quote "It's been here all the time" from the "Chamber of Secrets" when they find the entrance to the chamber in Myrtle's bathroom? As I said, total guess! No checking of books, as you can probably tell! From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 19:37:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 15:37:00 -0400 Subject: Voicelady's quiz Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C876 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Voicelady's quiz Reply To: [Yahoo! #875] Re: Voicelady's quiz Date: 4/2/00 3:37 pm (ET) Extremely good and logical guess, and you've got the right book, but not what it refers to. And quite possibly, the person who says my quote could be the smae person of whom you're thinking. Oh, and the person who figures it out gets to choose the next set of quotes - deal? From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 19:48:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 15:48:00 -0400 Subject: Voicelady's quiz Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C877 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Voicelady's quiz Reply To: [Yahoo! #876] Re: Voicelady's quiz Date: 4/2/00 3:48 pm (ET) By the way, Melanie came up with a very good idea. Email me with your answers from now on. This way, everyone gets a fair shot. So Penny, if no one can come up with the last answer, you get to choose the next quiz. Does that sound fair with everyone? And sorry about any typos I may have - sometimes my fingers get ahead of my brain! From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 19:53:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 15:53:00 -0400 Subject: Voicelady's quiz Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C878 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Voicelady's quiz Reply To: [Yahoo! #877] Re: Voicelady's quiz Date: 4/2/00 3:53 pm (ET) Hi: Ooh, ooh -- think I got it!! <"It's been here all the time!"> Ron Weasley to Harry -- Chamber of Secrets (in reference to Mr. Weasley's car) That's it, isn't it? I didn't check the book, but I think that must be it. Yes, I'll be happy to do the next quiz, and I'll include my email address so that folks can send their answers without posting to the listserve as a whole. Good suggestion. Penny From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 19:56:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 15:56:00 -0400 Subject: Voicelady's quiz Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C879 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Voicelady's quiz Reply To: [Yahoo! #878] Re: Voicelady's quiz Date: 4/2/00 3:56 pm (ET) Game over! That was exactly it! Your turn. And I'd love to take the credit for the email suggestion, but I have to give for that one to Melanie. <sigh> I really need some more hobbies... From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sun Apr 2 23:40:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 19:40:00 -0400 Subject: New HP Trivia Quiz Tomorrow Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C880 From: plinsenmayer Subject: New HP Trivia Quiz Tomorrow Date: 4/2/00 7:40 pm (ET) Hi: I'll post the next HP Trivia Quiz tomorrow, so people who only check this board on weekdays will have a chance to play. I've come up with a mix of easy and challenging questions. I have 9, but can limit it to 5 questions (same number as Voicelady's Quiz) if we'd prefer to keep it at 5 questions per quiz. Penny From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 01:54:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2000 21:54:00 -0400 Subject: New HP Trivia Quiz Tomorrow Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C881 From: norevoli Subject: Re: New HP Trivia Quiz Tomorrow Reply To: [Yahoo! #880] New HP Trivia Quiz Tomorrow Date: 4/2/00 9:54 pm (ET) are we emailing it to you Penny or just posting the answers? From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 12:59:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 08:59:00 -0400 Subject: April Fools, huh? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C882 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: April Fools, huh? Date: 4/3/00 8:59 am (ET) I've been thinking about the Beckhorn affair. I fell about as hard as anyone for the first posting and, well, it wasn't clear to me until that, "I've changed my mind... Harry does have redeeming virtues" posting that something wasn't quite right here. OK. It was a joke but I think it raises a serious issue that we ought to give some thought to how we're going to deal with it. The folks who want to ban Harry Potter are out there. Mr. Beckhorn did quite a reasonable impersonation of them. It isn't going to be the Muggles that do battle with them; it'll be us. (Actually I don't think Harry is in any serious danger unless the remaining books become MUCH darker than they are - There are too many copies out there. But what about the next set of books we love that some Mr. Beckhorn wants banned?) Do we reason with them? Do we build solid Biblical cases against them? Do we build solid literary cases against them? (You should see the attack I started preparing on Mr. Popper's Penguins when I thought Beckhorn liked it.) Surely, ignoring them is not the best solution. And by the way, I vote with everyone else, Voicelady. Stay in the club. From darwinnyc at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 13:28:00 2000 From: darwinnyc at yahoo.com (darwinnyc at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 09:28:00 -0400 Subject: April Fools, huh? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C883 From: darwinnyc Subject: Re: April Fools, huh? Reply To: [Yahoo! #882] April Fools, huh? Date: 4/3/00 9:28 am (ET) If only somebody could think of a good way to deal with people like that. Problem is, you can't use logic and reason with someone who is guided by blind faith. If whackjobs like that have enough power to get science dumbed down in public schools because it contradicts biblical literalism, I fear that poor Harry doesn't stand much of a chance if they go after him hard enough. Let's hope I'm wrong. :^) From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 13:41:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 09:41:00 -0400 Subject: April Fools, huh? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C884 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: April Fools, huh? Reply To: [Yahoo! #883] Re: April Fools, huh? Date: 4/3/00 9:41 am (ET) I post with a few other message boards and we often run up against people like that. They're really only looking to stir things up, and by unspoken consensus, we all just ignore them. They all just go away when they realize they can't provoke us. And I truly believe that there are more of us than them anyway. Although I, too, thought about being very sarcastic when Beckhorn was positive about Mr Popper's Penguins. "Really! I'm ashamed. People and animals living together! What utter nonsense!" and more in that vein. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 14:43:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 10:43:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz II Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C885 From: plinsenmayer Subject: HP Trivia Quiz II Date: 4/3/00 10:43 am (ET) Hi everyone: Here's the next installment of the HP Trivia Quiz Series that Voicelady started yesterday. Here are the rules: 1. Name the following with respect to each quote below: the name of the person who said the line, who they were speaking to (may be more than one person), and the book that contained the line. Honor system: don't consult your books! 2. Email your answers to me at linsenma at hic.net rather than posting them to this message board. This way everyone will have a fair shot at answering the questions without knowing the guesses of others. 3. The first person to get all 5 questions right (I'll judge by the time posted to my inbox) will receive the honor (and fun!) of devising the next trivia quiz. 4. I'll post the correct answers at the end of the day, even though the Quiz may be won before then (but it will give everyone a chance to participate at least). Okay -- ready, set GO! 1. "You're fighting a losing battle there, dear." 2. "Only one who has nothing to lose and everything to gain would commit such a crime." 3. "He's a danger to himself." 4. "Noble men, working tirelessly to help a new generation of lawbreakers." 5. "A promise is a promise." Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 14:53:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 10:53:00 -0400 Subject: Beckhorn Affair Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C886 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Beckhorn Affair Reply To: [Yahoo! #882] April Fools, huh? Date: 4/3/00 10:53 am (ET) Hi: Skimmel I share your concerns. The thing I found most worrisome was that such a person had infiltrated our message board and would perhaps stifle our conversations or cause disagreements. There was one point last week where I wanted to reference another HP listserve that I subscribe to, but all I could think about was not giving this guy yet another forum to invade. So, I refrained from mentioning it (not that someone like that won't find every forum available if they are determined enough). Danger to HP Books: I think the potential is there for them to be banned from many schools. It's amazing how quickly something like that can snowball, and if a strong and vocal group of parents don't stand their ground on refusing to ban books, well . . . But, overall, I don't think they will be banned from anywhere near the majority of American schools. Certainly they will be banned from some though. RESPONSE: I agree with darwinnie -- there is NO reasoning with some of those people. They are literalists and will never be convinced they are in the wrong. Reasoning, on the other hand, is the rational response and might work on some people who just have misperceptions (but aren't diehard literalists). Even though I was one of the vocal ones who tried hard to reason with "Mr. Beckhorn," I think the first line of defense might well be to ignore them. That was my first inclination with him, but I let my temper get the better of me. But, if we did all have an unspoken pact that we would just go on with our conversations and ignore the person, it might be the best course. Troubling questions, huh??!! Penny From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 15:20:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:20:00 -0400 Subject: Beckhorn Affair Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C887 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Beckhorn Affair Reply To: [Yahoo! #886] Re: Beckhorn Affair Date: 4/3/00 11:20 am (ET) We have an easy defense against an actual Mr. Beckhorn. The founder of the club can kick people out of the club and ban them. There was a point last week when I gave serious consideration to suggesting we do just that. The issue of reasoning with these folks is interesting. The problem is NOT that they are literalists. The problem is that they are highly selective. The Bible verse you cite saying that you should tolerate books about witches means nothing while their Bible verse saying 'anyone who implies witches are ok will fry in hell forever' are the direct verbatim word of God. You can't reason with that. (I did have an argument in college with a "literalist" who insisted that Jesus have five disciples who were named Matthew, Mark, Luke, John and Paul. I gave up. God had told him that directly. Bible verses to the contrary meant nothing.) The people we can argue with and make some headway are the schoolboards and librarians. We have to argue and persuasively. I'm not sure First Ammendment arguements are enough. Which leaves the question: What sort of arguments should we develope? I think our attempts to reason with Mr. Beckhorn may have been a start. From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 15:56:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 11:56:00 -0400 Subject: Beckhorn Affair Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C888 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Beckhorn Affair Reply To: [Yahoo! #887] Re: Beckhorn Affair Date: 4/3/00 11:56 am (ET) I have a couple of thoughts about this whole thing. First of all, there was a point in time when one of his posts stated that this club only said that it was a discussion group about Harry Potter visited by grown-ups. In this case, he's right. The description of the club states: "discuss Harry Potter books with other grown ups." Now, we can't argue that this club is specifically for "adult" (meaning not 9-12 year olds, I suppose) *fans* when it doesn't say that in the description of the club. So, if we do have another mr_beckhorn, and we choose to argue with him, I don't think we can reasonably use that as a reason for him to go away unless we change the description of the club. Secondly, I agree with others of you about the almost impossibility of reasoning with the unreasonable. I, for one, consider myself a Christian, and in a sense, I believe in creationism. However, I also believe in evolution. I can't ignore the logic of evolution (as a quasi-scientist), but I don't want to take God out of the equation, so I meld the two into what I consider a reasonably logic combination. However, there are some out there who just don't bother trying to think things out for themselves. They have a bunch of church leaders who are more than willing to do their thinking for them, and hey, why not?! It makes their lives easier. So these people are not going to take time off their crusade to make life the way it "should" be in order to think on their own. So, to sum up.... although I agree that most of these people come to stir up trouble, as long as this club is simply a discussion forum, we can't sit by and ignore those who want to discuss the books. If we do, we're being just as closed-minded as they are. However, if we clearly state that this club is for adult FANS, then we can with good conscience ignore the trouble makers. Because if they come onto a FAN board and start arguing, we know for a FACT that they're just coming to stir up trouble. Whew. Sorry, I'm sure this is long, but I just had to get it out. Jen From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 16:43:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 12:43:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz II Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C889 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz II Reply To: [Yahoo! #885] HP Trivia Quiz II Date: 4/3/00 12:43 pm (ET) Oh my goodness! This is a tough one! I think I only know 2 of the answers. I'm going to sit this one out. I would definitely have to consult my books. From thefly_gr at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 18:04:00 2000 From: thefly_gr at yahoo.com (thefly_gr at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:04:00 -0400 Subject: Brand New and Greek Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C890 From: thefly_gr Subject: Re: Brand New and Greek Reply To: [Yahoo! #770] Re: Brand New and Greek Date: 4/3/00 2:04 pm (ET) I do have a scanner at work i will try and and send the two covers i have! Don't expect it too soon though but i will send them to you From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 18:52:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:52:00 -0400 Subject: Ok, Mugglebutts. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C891 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Ok, Mugglebutts. . . Date: 4/3/00 2:52 pm (ET) I rejoined this club under a slightly different name to clarify things. Next person who calls me Darwinnie gets their eyeballs set on fire. BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA! Switching gears completely - I read George's Marvelous Medicine at lunch today. HOO BOY, talk about books that people must wanna ban! Now THAT one I could definitely causing problems with the little ones. Definitely not a tome for the wee tykes, iffn' ya ask me. From thefly_gr at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 18:52:00 2000 From: thefly_gr at yahoo.com (thefly_gr at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 14:52:00 -0400 Subject: Discovery of HP Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C892 From: thefly_gr Subject: Re: Discovery of HP Reply To: [Yahoo! #824] Discovery of HP Date: 4/3/00 2:52 pm (ET) I discovered HP books by their cover, I have a very good girlfriend who's only three and i was in a bookstore trying to find books for myself but i always look at the children's books section in case i find something for her, she's Katerina and a doll,so i found her something and having already picked my books i was at the cashier waiting to pay, at that point i was abstractly looking at the self of the teenage books and something caught my eye, what else the first HP book, i got it down and i understood it was part of series, when i was young i had read all the Enyd Blyton books which were all a series so i decided to buy, the rest is history. You have to understand though that at that time i didn't know anything about the books and how famous they were, i found that out later when being in my dentist's office i saw Harry on the cover of time magazine than i started looking it up at the internet and finally i found this club! From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 19:09:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 15:09:00 -0400 Subject: Hey gang Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C893 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Hey gang Date: 4/3/00 3:09 pm (ET) I realize we're all adults (and those of us who aren't adults qualify anyway because of their maturity level), and we're supposed to be too "old" to enjoy it, but in the geocities link, you can get "sorted." Go in, concentrate on the hat , then click on the button and a message will come up telling you if you're a muggle, half/half, or wizard-born, and also which house you're in. I tried it just for fun (gee, very busy at work today, voicelady?), and though I am wizard-born, I must not have been concentrating hard enough, because it placed me in Slytherin! Augh! (So I decided that it put me there to change the system from within...) From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 19:16:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 15:16:00 -0400 Subject: Brand New and Greek Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C894 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Brand New and Greek Reply To: [Yahoo! #890] Re: Brand New and Greek Date: 4/3/00 3:16 pm (ET) Many thanks. That's all anyone can ask. From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 20:21:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 16:21:00 -0400 Subject: Hey gang Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C895 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Hey gang Reply To: [Yahoo! #893] Hey gang Date: 4/3/00 4:21 pm (ET) Hahaha... I too am a full-blooded wizard in Slytherin. Funny. I was kind of thinking that I would go in and re-do it until I got into another house, but decided that ALL Slytherins can't be bad, and if they are, I can be the first good one. Besides, it would just be cheating if I redid it. Nice to meet someone else who got into the house they particularly didn't want to be in. At least I know how to get what I want. ;) Jen From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 20:28:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 16:28:00 -0400 Subject: Hey gang Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C896 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: Hey gang Reply To: [Yahoo! #893] Hey gang Date: 4/3/00 4:28 pm (ET) Me is a Hufflepuffer! From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 20:54:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 16:54:00 -0400 Subject: Beckhorn Affair Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C897 From: sarvalsha Subject: Re: Beckhorn Affair Reply To: [Yahoo! #888] Re: Beckhorn Affair Date: 4/3/00 4:54 pm (ET) This reminds me of an incident that happened when I was a teenager at church camp. We were having a meeting when one of the campers got up and started saying what a load of bunk it all was, how crazy we were to believe it, etc. Another campers got up to counter the attack. Turned out the first person was a plant by the staff to see how we would react to a real attack. I do think that we should ignore it here on this site. It is for fans to discuss with other fans what we like. However, I do think we need to respond to the attacks in the real world; if there is the threat of banning in our community, etc. From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 21:00:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:00:00 -0400 Subject: April Fools, huh? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C898 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: April Fools, huh? Reply To: [Yahoo! #882] April Fools, huh? Date: 4/3/00 5:00 pm (ET) I find it very hard to believe that there is in anyway a "threat" that Harry Potter books will be "banned". They may lose readership at some point, but no small, albeit vociferous, minority will stop Scholastic from publishing a money maker or the US gov't from abandoning the Bill of Rights. What I find funniest (funny/strange, not funny/haha) is that post from this RAHPE person. Like, they are this Pro-Harry Potter gestapo that will swing down and "straighten this thing out". What the heck was that stuff? What could those kids actually do, and who are they to suppose they should wield any kind of "power"?!?!??? So, it's the pro-Potter faction that scares me as the biggest threat to free speech, not the anti-Potter forces. From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 21:07:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:07:00 -0400 Subject: Beckhorn Affair Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C899 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: Beckhorn Affair Reply To: [Yahoo! #888] Re: Beckhorn Affair Date: 4/3/00 5:07 pm (ET) I worry that for a bunch of people concerned that Potter books will be banned from schools/libraries, y'all are quite willing to discuss banning someone from a "discussion group" if he/she disagrees with your love of the topic. Seems a tad hypocritical. . . (Uh oh, maybe I'll be banned now. Gotta watch what ya say. . .the Potter Thought Police are watching.) From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 21:22:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:22:00 -0400 Subject: Sorting Hat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C900 From: melaniem68 Subject: Sorting Hat Reply To: [Yahoo! #893] Hey gang Date: 4/3/00 5:22 pm (ET) I tried it twice. The first time, I was a Hufflepuff, the second, a Ravenclaw. Maybe I'm like Harry, and could go into more than one. I like your infiltration theory, Voicelady. Speaking of the Sorting Hat, I'm working on a Sorting Hat quiz. Each question is multiple choice, with four possible answers, each appropriate for a different house. The quiz will be scored by tallying the options to see which house has the most (e.g., If you answered mostly A, you're a Gryffindor; Mostly B, you're a Ravenclaw, etc). I welcome ideas for questions. If anyone has any, please e-mail me at melaniem68 at yahoo.com. I have only two restrictions: 1) Don't name any houses within the question or options - We don't want to make it *too* obvious. 2) No questions naming characters - I want it based on the sortee's personality, rather than which character(s) they want to be with. If you'd like, I'll be happy to post the Sorting Quiz when it's finished (probably in May). I may post it to the Web, if I can find the software used to automatically score the quiz and give an instant answer. Thanks in advance. Melanie From mewilliamson at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 21:40:00 2000 From: mewilliamson at yahoo.com (mewilliamson at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 17:40:00 -0400 Subject: Sorting Hat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C901 From: mewilliamson Subject: Re: Sorting Hat Reply To: [Yahoo! #900] Sorting Hat Date: 4/3/00 5:40 pm (ET) I am a half blood Slytherin Strange, I keep geting put in that house Meg From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 22:01:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 18:01:00 -0400 Subject: Beckhorn Affair Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C902 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Beckhorn Affair Reply To: [Yahoo! #899] Re: Beckhorn Affair Date: 4/3/00 6:01 pm (ET) Maybe I'm missing your point. I have been a member of a number of clubs that have banned members. Generally, the victim did something completely inappropriate for the club like make a lot of postings for porno sites. In any case, it appears that our membership here is at the founder's sole discretion. I don't see how pointing that out is hypocritical. I did think about pointing out to the founder that was one of her choices. I suspect you are safe. To the best of my knowledge, no one has ever been banned from this club. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 22:34:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 18:34:00 -0400 Subject: Hello - I'm New Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C903 From: babynick34 Subject: Hello - I'm New Date: 4/3/00 6:34 pm (ET) Hi all I'm new here... first time posting. Nice to see another group for older fans of the HP books. I love them. I'm trying to get Jo to tell me when she's doing here UK book signings for Book4 - but she's given me two venues at the moment, Edinburgh and London - but has not confirmed either. Hope to see some faces (email addresses!) here I recognise from the other lists. Nick ---------- The Society of Harry Potter Fans www.nicmit.com From darwinnyc at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 22:48:00 2000 From: darwinnyc at yahoo.com (darwinnyc at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 18:48:00 -0400 Subject: Beckhorn Affair Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C904 From: darwinnyc Subject: Re: Beckhorn Affair Reply To: [Yahoo! #899] Re: Beckhorn Affair Date: 4/3/00 6:48 pm (ET) They wouldn't ban him for disagreeing, they would ban him for being irrational and behaving inappropriately. I also know for a fact that he tortures small animals, once killed a man just to watch him die, is a Republican, and watches Family Matters reruns, so the guy is bad news. From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 22:52:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 18:52:00 -0400 Subject: FRIGGIN GALDANG SASAFRASS! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C905 From: darwin_nyc Subject: FRIGGIN GALDANG SASAFRASS! Reply To: [Yahoo! #904] Re: Beckhorn Affair Date: 4/3/00 6:52 pm (ET) Pretend that last post was under this modified name, and that THIS post doesn't exist. Thanks bunches! From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Mon Apr 3 22:59:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 18:59:00 -0400 Subject: Hello - I'm New Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C906 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: Hello - I'm New Reply To: [Yahoo! #903] Hello - I'm New Date: 4/3/00 6:59 pm (ET) Welcome welcome. Unfortunately, the name dropping causes you to lose five points for your house. Tee hee hee hee. From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 00:22:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 20:22:00 -0400 Subject: Beckhorn Affair Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C907 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: Beckhorn Affair Reply To: [Yahoo! #902] Re: Beckhorn Affair Date: 4/3/00 8:22 pm (ET) Skimmel, you said: <<We have an easy defense against an actual Mr. Beckhorn. The founder of the club can kick people out of the club and ban them. There was a point last week when I gave serious consideration to suggesting we do just that.>> And, then: <<Generally, the victim did something completely inappropriate for the club like make a lot of postings for porno sites.>> I don't believe that the fake MR_BECKHORN gave us any porno site addresses. He just expressed what we believed to be his views. Many people hold those views. I think the First Amendment allows them that right. Hypocritical is the act of desiring free speech (my term, not yours, I know) so that Potter books wouldn't be "banned" in schools by the actions of the real Beckhorns -- and then turning around and actually considering "banning" some Christian Fundamentalist freak from this "discussion group" simply because he doesn't agree with the majority. That is hypocrisy. Free speech is allowing just that. And it isn't based on whether the speaker agrees with you or not. When you start abridging Free Speech in one arena (like the "Harry Potter for Grown Ups" Yahoo Club), you lose the moral imperative to argue for it elsewhere (like in schools and libraries). From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 00:32:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 20:32:00 -0400 Subject: Results: HP Trivia Quiz II Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C908 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Results: HP Trivia Quiz II Date: 4/3/00 8:32 pm (ET) Hi all: Thanks to the people who participated. We do have a winner: Margaret (Sarvalsha)! Margaret: You get the honor of creating our next challenging quiz. Here are the questions again and the correct answers: 1. "You're fighting a losing battle there, dear." Mirror in Harry's room at the Leaky Cauldron to Harry (when he tried to fix his hair) -- Prisoner of Azkaban 2. "Only one who has nothing to lose and everything to gain would commit such a crime." Firenze (centaur) to Harry (regarding slaying of a unicorn) -- Sorcerer's Stone 3. "He's a danger to himself." Ron to Harry (regarding Gilderoy Lockhart after the failed memory charm) -- Chamber of Secrets 4. "Noble men, working tirelessly to help a new generation of lawbreakers." Fred Weasley to Harry (and George Weasley) (regarding the Marauder's Map) -- Prisoner of Azkaban 5. "A promise is a promise." Hermione to Harry (regarding the Death Day Party) -- Chamber of Secrets Just realized that all of these were spoken *to* Harry. I didn't really intend that. Penny From quidditchfan at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 00:37:00 2000 From: quidditchfan at yahoo.com (quidditchfan at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 20:37:00 -0400 Subject: Sorting Hat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C909 From: quidditchfan Subject: Re: Sorting Hat Reply To: [Yahoo! #901] Re: Sorting Hat Date: 4/3/00 8:37 pm (ET) I'm a half-blooded Ravenclaw. Not too bad! From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 00:39:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 20:39:00 -0400 Subject: Ok, Mugglebutts. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C910 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Ok, Mugglebutts. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #891] Ok, Mugglebutts. . . Date: 4/3/00 8:39 pm (ET) Hi: <I rejoined this club under a slightly different name to clarify things. Next person who calls me Darwinnie gets their eyeballs set on fire. BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!> OOOPS! I think I'm guilty of this. Sorry. Chalk it up to the fact that I was so uncreative with my own yahoo user ID that I didn't even notice the nyc on the end of your ID. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 01:37:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:37:00 -0400 Subject: April Fools, huh? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C911 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: April Fools, huh? Reply To: [Yahoo! #898] Re: April Fools, huh? Date: 4/3/00 9:37 pm (ET) <I find it very hard to believe that there is in anyway a "threat" that Harry Potter books will be "banned". They may lose readership at some point, but no small, albeit vociferous, minority will stop Scholastic from publishing a money maker or the US gov't from abandoning the Bill of Rights.> Well, books *are* banned from time to time in this country, despite the Bill of Rights. Books I know have been banned: Catcher in the Rye, Lord of the Flies, Little House on the Prairie, Huckleberry Finn . . . I could go on and on. I don't think it's wise to fail to react to threats of censorship and book banning. Yes, I agree: there is no way that there could be a blanket ban on HP in this country. But, these things are decided at the local/community level (really school by school for the most part). <What I find funniest (funny/strange, not funny/haha) is that post from this RAHPE person. Like, they are this Pro-Harry Potter gestapo that will swing down and "straighten this thing out". What the heck was that stuff? What could those kids actually do, and who are they to suppose they should wield any kind of "power"?!?!???> I agree that they were acting oddly. Over-zealous to say the least. And, yes, what *were* they thinking they would do?? Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 01:43:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:43:00 -0400 Subject: Beckhorn Affair Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C912 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Beckhorn Affair Reply To: [Yahoo! #899] Re: Beckhorn Affair Date: 4/3/00 9:43 pm (ET) <I worry that for a bunch of people concerned that Potter books will be banned from schools/libraries, y'all are quite willing to discuss banning someone from a "discussion group" if he/she disagrees with your love of the topic. Seems a tad hypocritical. . .> I don't think anyone was suggesting banning someone who "disagrees." Skimmel's point was that ejection from the club is a point of recourse in the event that someone became so vociferous, argumentative and/or abusive that it threatened to shut the group down. I don't think it's unrealistic to expect that someone *could* cause that sort of trouble. Ignoring troublemakers is a good first line of defense (and by troublemaker, I mean someone who is completely irrational and abusive in their responses). Mr. Beckhorn did a good imitation of someone who bordered on complete irrationality (in my mind). I agree with Jen's comment earlier today that we should consider asking the founder to change the description so as to make it clear that the intended participants of this group are *fans* of the HP books. That seems like an excellent idea! Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 01:45:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:45:00 -0400 Subject: Sorting Hat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C913 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Sorting Hat Reply To: [Yahoo! #900] Sorting Hat Date: 4/3/00 9:45 pm (ET) Melanie: Please post the Sorting Quiz when it's done -- I'll look forward to it. Maybe if it measures my personality it won't put me in Slytherin (which is where the geocities sorting hat put me -- twice!). I know I'm probably *not* a Gryffindor, but a Ravenclaw or Hufflepuff is much more likely than a Slytherin. Yikes! Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 01:46:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:46:00 -0400 Subject: Hello - I'm New Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C914 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Hello - I'm New Reply To: [Yahoo! #903] Hello - I'm New Date: 4/3/00 9:46 pm (ET) Welcome Nick! Glad to see you found this Board -- Penny From norevoli at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 02:16:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 22:16:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz II Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C915 From: norevoli Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz II Reply To: [Yahoo! #885] HP Trivia Quiz II Date: 4/3/00 10:16 pm (ET) I'm sitting this one out too!!.... I hardly know any of these questions... that's it, from now on, i'm studying my books to get myself prepared for the next quiz!! From norevoli at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 02:21:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 22:21:00 -0400 Subject: Hey gang Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C916 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Hey gang Reply To: [Yahoo! #893] Hey gang Date: 4/3/00 10:21 pm (ET) I did the sorting test... I ended up in hufflepuff! ...do I look like a hufflepuff to you guys? <g> and I'm also the product of two muggle parents...which is true in my case! From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 02:51:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 22:51:00 -0400 Subject: April Fools, huh? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C917 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: April Fools, huh? Reply To: [Yahoo! #911] Re: April Fools, huh? Date: 4/3/00 10:51 pm (ET) <<Well, books *are* banned from time to time in this country, despite the Bill of Rights. Books I know have been banned: Catcher in the Rye, Lord of the Flies, Little House on the Prairie, Huckleberry Finn . . >> Two points: 1. Yeah, but HARRY POTTER books???? Where's the sex? Where's the little boys feeding on eachother's flesh??? [OK, maybe in later books -- JK Rowling please take note : could be a good idea for a special Hogwart's Christmas dinner...] 2. When you act as your enemy does, you become your enemy. Which was really my main point. Unless you engage these people in open debate -- unless you open the discussion and practice your response -- you will be broadsided unknowingly and not know HOW to respond. Or, on the other hand, you will never learn that you were wrong to begin with. Because, there's always the chance that the Fundamentalist Anti-Potter Brigade has a good point, and that JK Rowling is turning all our children into Satan-worshipping demons. . . From b_drey at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 02:58:00 2000 From: b_drey at yahoo.com (b_drey at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 22:58:00 -0400 Subject: Hold On Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C918 From: b_drey Subject: Hold On Date: 4/3/00 10:58 pm (ET) I wanted to respond to all the latest messages regarding banning Mr. Beckworth, the purpose of this group, etc., but, for some reason, these messages are no longer showing up on my computer when I log into the club. All I can say for the moment is that this club is supposed to be fun and everyone should take a deep breath and get a grip. We can't censor people who say things we don't agree with - after all, that is exactly what Mr. Beckworth wants to do. And you can't argue with people like this -the best thing to do is ignore their posts. If you have a problem with my ideas on free speech, you can email me (use the "send a message to the founder" button on our home page). If I hear from a lot people who are unhappy, I'll pick someone else to be the leader and bow out. In the meantime, let's move on and forget this episode. Thanks. Barbara From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 03:01:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:01:00 -0400 Subject: Beckhorn Affair Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C919 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: Beckhorn Affair Reply To: [Yahoo! #912] Re: Beckhorn Affair Date: 4/3/00 11:01 pm (ET) <<Mr. Beckhorn did a good imitation of someone who bordered on complete irrationality (in my mind).>> I would disagree with this. Of course, now that we know that Beckhorn was kidding, it's silly to discuss his views as rational/non-rational. But, as that discussion occurred, it seemed to me that given just one simple Fundamentalist Christian premise all his arguments would logically follow. That premise being: Any one who practices magic has a close relationship with Satan. If you accept that, then the Potter books are espousing behavior practiced by people with a close relationship with the Devil. It doesn't matter at all that they are practicing comraderie, team spirit, family loyalty, patriotism, or whatever. If they are, at the same time, practicing magic which puts them into close relationship with the Enemy of Man, then all those "good" qualities are moot. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 03:18:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 23:18:00 -0400 Subject: April Fools, huh? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C920 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: April Fools, huh? Reply To: [Yahoo! #911] Re: April Fools, huh? Date: 4/3/00 11:18 pm (ET) Okay, Lord of the Flies, Catcher in the Rye, and Huckleberry Finn I knew about. But Little House on the Prairie?!? You're kidding, right? What was the argument there? (And I'm responding to 2 posts in one): Norevoli asked <<Do I look like a Hufflepuffer>> My question is: do we ever know WHY everybody looks down on them? They're supposed to be, and I quote: "...just and loyal, Those patient Hufflepuffs are true, And unafraid of toil." What's so bad about that, huh? From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 05:53:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 01:53:00 -0400 Subject: April Fools, huh? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C921 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: April Fools, huh? Reply To: [Yahoo! #920] Re: April Fools, huh? Date: 4/4/00 1:53 am (ET) re: hufflepuffs and how nobody wants to be one, etc. (that should be my real subject) Well, I always thought I would either be picked as a Ravenclaw (was very nerdy in high school... guess I can't say that I've changed very much) or a Hufflepuff. Actually, with the Sorting Hat's definition of a Hufflepuff, I'd be honored to be one. Seems to me that a Hufflepuff would put being a good friend above all else. I would love to be "affirmed" as a good person and friend. Sure, Gryffindor folks get the glory, Slytherin folks get their way, Ravenclaw folks get the grades, but Hufflepuff get to be counted on for support in all bad times. Like it. Course, like I said before, I'm apparently a Slytherin, so watch out! Jen From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 06:06:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 02:06:00 -0400 Subject: Two glasses of wine... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C922 From: jenP_97 Subject: Two glasses of wine... Date: 4/4/00 2:06 am (ET) do a lot to a lightweight. Boy, I think I'm going to be a little mystified as to why I posted with this subject and message, but here goes anyway (if you guys think I'm nuts, just skip this one). First of all, I'm completely ashamed of myself for not getting the quiz answers. Hats off to Penny for a great set of questions - I was sitting in front of the computer for a good 10 minutes this morning (before I had to teach class) trying to think of the name Firenze. Duh! Second of all. I'd like to sort of respond to iago - although I should probably "ignore the trouble-maker". Let's face it. The people who post to this board are fans. We admit it. We LOVE the books. We get a little carried away when people slam them. Your reasoning that we can get hypocritical has some good points - like I said earlier, this board doesn't restrict members to FANS only. However, it seems to me that you're only adding fuel to the fire, here. By completely going off the topic of how we should responsibly deal with someone who doesn't think that Harry Potter should be reading material in public (or private, for that matter) schools and starting to simply berate us for being hypocrites isn't adding anything to your argument. I admit, I was a little miffed that a mr_beckhorn could just waltz on in here and slam the books I love so well. I wouldn't have minded some "retribution" on barbara's part. But! That was only my guts taking over. He (or a real person like him, whoever he really was) has a perfect right to come in here and argue his point. About Harry Potter. But not about how we're not worthy of saying that the HP books shouldn't be banned because we admitted to wanting this guy kicked out. So just lay off, okay? Third. About the wine. I swear, two glasses, and I feel... oh, you don't need to know the details. Just suffice it to say that I shouldn't be driving. Okay, now I KNOW people are going to just skip this message. Jen Ps. I'm still way embarrased that I couldn't think of Firenze. I mean, I was sitting there going "Ronan, Bane.... what was the other one's name, for crying out loud?!?" Me again, and yes, I'm going to bed now. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 13:15:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 09:15:00 -0400 Subject: Beckhorn, et al Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C923 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Beckhorn, et al Reply To: [Yahoo! #917] Re: April Fools, huh? Date: 4/4/00 9:15 am (ET) I suspect that we are agreeing with each other at the top of our lungs until we are red in the face. One more word on this from me and then I promise I'll shut up about it. The forces of censorship are out there and even Harry Potter is not immune. We do battle with them or we yield to them. I choose not to yield. Ignoring them is to my mind the same as yielding. I don't count silencing someone yelling "Fire" in a movie theater as censorship. Perhaps I should reconsider that position. In line with iago's suggestion, I'm going to research their arguments against Harry and post a summary of them. We should know if they are using sticks and stones or automatic weapons. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 13:16:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 09:16:00 -0400 Subject: Book-Banning Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C924 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Book-Banning Reply To: [Yahoo! #917] Re: April Fools, huh? Date: 4/4/00 9:16 am (ET) Iago said: <Two points: 1. Yeah, but HARRY POTTER books???? Where's the sex? Where's the little boys feeding on eachother's flesh???> Well, my whole point about book banning is simply this: even though you and I and the rest of us on this board don't find anything objectionable in the HP books (and in fact we LOVE them!), lots of other people do find them objectionable. You mention it in your second point -- the whole "witchcraft, in league with Satan, giving impressionable young children bad ideas" argument. 2. When you act as your enemy does, you become your enemy. Which was really my main point. Unless you engage these people in open debate -- unless you open the discussion and practice your response -- you will be broadsided unknowingly and not know HOW to respond. Or, on the other hand, you will never learn that you were wrong to begin with. Because, there's always the chance that the Fundamentalist Anti-Potter Brigade has a good point, and that JK Rowling is turning all our children into Satan-worshipping demons. . .> Gee Iago -- I think we're on the same page. Isn't your second point above *exactly* Skimmel's point yesterday? I'm not sure where your objection is to what Skimmel was discussing yesterday. He said (and Skimmel correct me if I'm getting this wrong) that we should be prepared to defend our views. He was soliciting opinions about the best way to counter critics of the HP series. And, of course, you're right -- we should be open to listening to well-reasoned arguments from the anti-HP side. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 13:23:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 09:23:00 -0400 Subject: Book Banning Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C925 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Book Banning Reply To: [Yahoo! #920] Re: April Fools, huh? Date: 4/4/00 9:23 am (ET) <Okay, Lord of the Flies, Catcher in the Rye, and Huckleberry Finn I knew about. But Little House on the Prairie?!? You're kidding, right? What was the argument there?> No, I'm definitely *not* kidding!!! It's been banned by a number of schools and libraries on the grounds that it conveys a negative (and racist) portrayal of Native Americans. I'm writing a biography for adults of the author, Laura Ingalls Wilder, and recently gave a presentation on Wilder's life and books at the school where my sister teaches. I made sure ahead of time that none of the teachers were going to object to that book being in my presentation. It's actually *that* controversial! Of course, my view of it is that people are trying to be revisionist historians when they ban an older book written from an autobiographical point of view such as LHotP. Wilder lived through those times (when Indians were Indians, not "Native Americans")and she wrote it in 1935 when she was 68 yrs old. I hate when people try to put 1990s political correctness into everything! Penny From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 13:38:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 09:38:00 -0400 Subject: Am I the only one having trouble? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C926 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Am I the only one having trouble? Date: 4/4/00 9:38 am (ET) Half the time, I can't access posts on this board. When I try, I just get a listing of older messages instead. Anyone else? From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 14:07:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:07:00 -0400 Subject: Am I the only one having trouble? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C927 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Am I the only one having trouble? Reply To: [Yahoo! #926] Am I the only one having trouble? Date: 4/4/00 10:07 am (ET) Me too. It only seems to apply to the newer postings. From b_drey at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 14:39:00 2000 From: b_drey at yahoo.com (b_drey at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:39:00 -0400 Subject: Message Viewing Problem Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C928 From: b_drey Subject: Message Viewing Problem Date: 4/4/00 10:39 am (ET) I've reported the problem to Yahoo Clubs Help and asked them to let me know what's going on. If I hear anything, I'll let you know. Barbara From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 14:50:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:50:00 -0400 Subject: Why Harry Potter should be banned Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C929 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Why Harry Potter should be banned Date: 4/4/00 10:50 am (ET) As promised, here is a summary of some of the main arguments used against Harry Potter. These were taken from a web site put together by a group fighting the banning in Michigan. The link to that group, if you're interested and want to support them is : http://www.mugglesforharrypotter.org/ In no particular order: - HP Books have a dangerous main theme - You can escape the troubles of the real world and find happiness in the fantasy world of the occult. - Witchcraft and the occult are portrayed as harmless. HP books are unique in that the children are the witches and wizards and that magic is fundamental to their success. - The books promote a disrespect for authority and reflect an anti-family bias. - HP books show people without magic as losers and know-nothings. - HP books imply that it is all right to use evil to fight evil. - They should be banned because they promote a religion by being permeated with Wiccan doctraine. "After all, to the well organized mind, death is but the next great adventure," is cited as being pure Wiccan philosophy. - They should be banned because of their violent content. - They should be banned because they have no educational value. Reading HP will ultimately lead to readings adult horror novels. As such, HP is leading kids away from reading better books that would lead kids to read the classics. These are not my arguments but the positions held by those who are fighting to ban HP. In Michigan, they led to a decision to ban in class reading of Harry and restricting library access to kids who had their parents written permission. What are our counter-arguments? From b_drey at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 15:07:00 2000 From: b_drey at yahoo.com (b_drey at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 11:07:00 -0400 Subject: Message Viewing Problem Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C930 From: b_drey Subject: Message Viewing Problem Date: 4/4/00 11:07 am (ET) Same problem with other clubs I belong to. From norevoli at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 15:38:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 11:38:00 -0400 Subject: April Fools, huh? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C931 From: norevoli Subject: Re: April Fools, huh? Reply To: [Yahoo! #920] Re: April Fools, huh? Date: 4/4/00 11:38 am (ET) Not saying that I totally do not like the hufflepuffs or anything! I think its just that when we look at them, we think they're the little meek and innocent ones that don't know what they're doing and who need lots of help... sort of like a Neville Longbottom... I think for me its just the name. But you're right, according to the sorting hat jingle they're not like that at all. "Unafraid of toil" ... that's just bravery in a few more words isn't it? I think its just I haven't seen a lot of hufflepuffs personally before, so I just sort of stick with my first thoughts on them... that they're side-kickish. The only person that we really know from hufflepuff (well that I really know, from the first 2 books, i haven't read book 3 in a long time!), is a bit of Ernie Macmillan and Justin Finch-Fletchey in book 2. I don't know what it is but I still don't like Macmillan; just that spreading rumors thing i guess. anyway when I asked whether i looked like a hufflepuff or not I didn't mean any harm, I just always saw myself as a Ravenclaw and wondered what you guys perceived my personality to be that's all :) From norevoli at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 15:42:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 11:42:00 -0400 Subject: Can't read them either. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C932 From: norevoli Subject: Can't read them either. Date: 4/4/00 11:42 am (ET) having alittle trouble reading these posts... From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 16:55:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 12:55:00 -0400 Subject: Two glasses of wine... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C933 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: Two glasses of wine... Reply To: [Yahoo! #922] Two glasses of wine... Date: 4/4/00 12:55 pm (ET) My comments were totally on topic. I was addressing posts by people. Were they on topic? If so, they I must be, ipso facto, on topic as well. I love your response, though. Basically, "shut up, Iago". It really makes me think about the issues from another point of view. I really can see how...oh, wait -- you were just being nasty and not offering any food for thought. What was I thinking? From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 16:59:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 12:59:00 -0400 Subject: Book-Banning Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C934 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: Book-Banning Reply To: [Yahoo! #924] Book-Banning Date: 4/4/00 12:59 pm (ET) My objection was that banning a poster from this club was considered a solution. My point being that censorship is censorship, no matter who does it -- even when it is done by the people who are on the "right" side of an issue. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 17:00:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 13:00:00 -0400 Subject: Book-Banning Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C935 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Book-Banning Reply To: [Yahoo! #924] Book-Banning Date: 4/4/00 1:00 pm (ET) I think (and it may just be me) that Iago's point was not that the books should be banned, and I also got the feeling that, yes, he DID agree with Skimmel about "preparing to defend" our views. I think he was arguing with the idea of banning someone from the club, because that would make us just as small-minded. We can't defend our first amendment rights while denying them to others'. That is what would make us hypocrites. Barbara posted the same message last night, but I think Iago was a little more eloquent. (I also got the idea that he was being very "Swiftian" in the way he presented his views. - But then again, maybe that was just me.) Also, banning people from the club would be pointless, because they can always come up with a new yahoo! username and re-join. Besides, debate is good. It keeps our aging minds active - well, my aging mind, anyway... <LOL> From babynick34 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 17:18:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 13:18:00 -0400 Subject: Hello - I'm New Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C936 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Hello - I'm New Reply To: [Yahoo! #906] Re: Hello - I'm New Date: 4/4/00 1:18 pm (ET) Oh no, negative points and I've only just got off the Hogwarts Express. It's not fair... Harry and Ron didn't get deducted points when they arrived by Car! Oh well... so are there any list rules I need to know about? Nick. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 17:18:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 13:18:00 -0400 Subject: Judy Blume on Censorship Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C937 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Judy Blume on Censorship Date: 4/4/00 1:18 pm (ET) Here's an excellent article by Judy Blume on the movement to remove Harry Potter from the schools. http://www.ncac.org/harrypotter.html Judy has had a number of books banned. Interesting reading on the subject. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 17:25:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 13:25:00 -0400 Subject: Recommended books from the HP haters Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C938 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Recommended books from the HP haters Date: 4/4/00 1:25 pm (ET) Just what do the HP haters recommend for school libraries? I copied the list below from one their postings: For "Younger Elementary" Tales of Hans Christian Andersen by Hans Christian Andersen Winnie-the-Pooh by A. A. Milne Pollyanna by Eleanor H. Porter Charlotte's Web by E. B. White Little House series by Laura Ingalls Wilder The Velveteen Rabbit by Margery Williams Aesop's Fables Just So Stories by Rudyard Kipling for "Older Elementary" Kidnapped by Robert Louis Stevenson Little Lord Fauntleroy by Frances Hodgson Burnett Hans Brinker by Mary M. Dodge Little Women by Louisa May Alcott An Old-Fashioned Girl by Louisa May Alcott The Secret Garden by Frances Hodgson Burnett A Little Princess by Frances Hodgson Burnett A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Graeme The Jungle Book by Rudyard Kipling Anne of Green Gables by L. M. Montgomery Black Beauty by Anne Sewell Heidi by Johanna Spyri Treasure Island by Robert Louis Stevenson Gulliver's Travels by Jonathan Swift The Adventures of Tom Sawyer by Mark Twain Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm by Kate Douglas Wiggin The Children's Homer: The Adventures of Odysseus and the Tale of Troy by Padraic Colum I have nothing against any of these books. Some I like a lot. Some bored me. I can easily see how I could turn the logic against Harry against many of these as well. Especially Tom Sawyer. From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 18:07:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 14:07:00 -0400 Subject: Hufflepuffs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C939 From: melaniem68 Subject: Hufflepuffs Reply To: [Yahoo! #921] Re: April Fools, huh? Date: 4/4/00 2:07 pm (ET) <Actually, with the Sorting Hat's definition of a Hufflepuff, I'd be honored to be one. Seems to me that a Hufflepuff would put being a good friend above all else. I would love to be "affirmed" as a good person and friend.> Did any of the books ever say what house Hagrid came from? Because I think he has Hufflepuff written all over him. But then, you can't always tell that easily, can you? If I didn't know Hermione was a Gryffindor, I would have guessed her to be a Ravenclaw. Book 1 never did say how long it took the hat to decide for her, did it? It must've considered putting her there. Just a few ramblings, Melanie From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 18:18:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 14:18:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz III Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C940 From: sarvalsha Subject: HP Trivia Quiz III Date: 4/4/00 2:18 pm (ET) Hi everyone. I'm not sure whether this is too obscure but we'll give it a try. Tip: all the quotes are from one sequence of events in one book; so figure out what sequence and what book first, then look at the individual quotes. Again we need the speaker, the person or persons to whom they are speaking, and the reference. Do not post your answers; email me at mmcnie at mmsa.com. Also email if you want to know if you are headed in the right direction, etc. If no one has figured it out by the end of the day, tomorrow I will start posting additional quotes in order until someone gets it. 1. I'm grateful . . . it will make everything much easier. . . 2. How long have you known? 3. Oh, we're going to be in so much trouble-- 4. How did you get this? 5. Are you insane? Margaret From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 18:21:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 14:21:00 -0400 Subject: Two glasses of wine... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C941 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Two glasses of wine... Reply To: [Yahoo! #933] Re: Two glasses of wine... Date: 4/4/00 2:21 pm (ET) First of all, I would like to apologize. Apparently, I wasn't in a very good mood last night (baby's sick.... so I'm still not in the best of moods, but at least it's not late at night now), and I'm sorry if my post seemed "nasty". I'd like to defend it, though. Re: the on topic part. I felt that the previous topics were centered around how we should defend our view against people who think it should be banned. I felt that you addressed those posts, but then went on to call some of us hypocrites. I'm sorry if I focused only on that part of the message, but that was the only part that I had trouble with. I agreed with you on the other points. Re: the "shut up, Iago" part. Well, let's see. I think I just asked you to lay off, right? That's not telling you to shut up, is it? I figured that we all realize now that anyone can be a member of this club and we don't need to revisit that issue anymore. Now, on the other hand, and I'm a bit loath to admit it, I was hurt by the last little jab... "oh, wait -- you were just being nasty and not offering any food for thought. What was I thinking?" I'm sorry if I got carried away last night - but if you didn't agree with me (as apparently, you didn't), I don't think it necessarily called for that, did it? Jen From arawa_99 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 18:33:00 2000 From: arawa_99 at yahoo.com (arawa_99 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 14:33:00 -0400 Subject: Sorted.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C942 From: arawa_99 Subject: Sorted.... Date: 4/4/00 2:33 pm (ET) I'm a Hufflepuff Half Blood. Sounds good to me - seems to be pretty much my personality! From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 19:07:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:07:00 -0400 Subject: What I like most. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C943 From: darwin_nyc Subject: What I like most. . . Date: 4/4/00 3:07 pm (ET) . . .about being a Muggle Born Huffle Puffer: It just sounds cool, doesn't it? From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 19:30:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:30:00 -0400 Subject: Two glasses of wine... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C944 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: Two glasses of wine... Reply To: [Yahoo! #941] Re: Two glasses of wine... Date: 4/4/00 3:30 pm (ET) Interesting. First you apologize and then you state an argument that there was nothing for you to apologize for. Fascinating. <<So just lay off, okay? >> That, to me, can be paraphrased as "shut up". And censorship is alot more important than any one book. So, if my opinions about people's blind willingness to censor others who disagree with them has gotten in the way of your enjoyment of fantasy fiction, I'm sorry. What was I thinking? But let's not continue this discussion. If your email address was in your profile, I would have sent this privately. But it wasn't, so I didn't. From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 19:43:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:43:00 -0400 Subject: Am I the only one having trouble? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C945 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Am I the only one having trouble? Reply To: [Yahoo! #926] Am I the only one having trouble? Date: 4/4/00 3:43 pm (ET) <Half the time, I can't access posts on this board. When I try, I just get a listing of older messages instead. Anyone else? > Yes! I'm relieved I'm not the only one. Melanie From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 19:52:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 15:52:00 -0400 Subject: Book-Banning Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C946 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Book-Banning Reply To: [Yahoo! #934] Re: Book-Banning Date: 4/4/00 3:52 pm (ET) Hi: <My objection was that banning a poster from this club was considered a solution. My point being that censorship is censorship, no matter who does it -- even when it is done by the people who are on the "right" side of an issue.> I do agree with you -- banning a poster from our club is (a) definitely censoring the person's free speech, (b) pointless since, as Voicelady pointed out in a later post, a "banned" person can always continue to rejoin the club another yahoo id, and (c) a measure that ought not to be taken lightly at all. I think Skimmel merely suggested it as a "possibility" -- a "last resort" (or at least that's the only circumstances in which I would endorse it). Believe me -- ask anyone on some of my other listserve groups -- I am nothing if not a huge proponent of free speech and the First Amendment in general! I've been in other listserve groups where a certain minority disliked a particular topic and tried to shut everyone up. There's nothing more infuriating to me than to have someone stifle the conversation! On the other hand, I was one of the first ones to get all worked up about "Mr Beckhorn." I think the reason does have largely to do with my perception of this as a fan-based message board. It's one thing if you and I, both fans of HP, have a disagreement about a character's actions, an interpretation of one of the books, etc. But, it's quite another to have to contend with anti-HP individuals in an environment that was set up to promote discussions among fans of the books. Or, at least my perception has all along been that the purpose of this club is for HP fans to discuss the books. Does that make sense? Penny (who would still prefer that the description of the club be clarified to indicate that it is for fans of the HP books, rather than just adults who want to talk about them) From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 20:03:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 16:03:00 -0400 Subject: Two glasses of wine... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C947 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Two glasses of wine... Reply To: [Yahoo! #944] Re: Two glasses of wine... Date: 4/4/00 4:03 pm (ET) I quit. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 20:05:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 16:05:00 -0400 Subject: Am I the only one having trouble? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C948 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Am I the only one having trouble? Reply To: [Yahoo! #945] Re: Am I the only one having trouble? Date: 4/4/00 4:05 pm (ET) Yahoo is reeeeeeeaaaaaly screw today... From mewilliamson at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 21:31:00 2000 From: mewilliamson at yahoo.com (mewilliamson at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 17:31:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz III Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C949 From: mewilliamson Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz III Reply To: [Yahoo! #940] HP Trivia Quiz III Date: 4/4/00 5:31 pm (ET) Darn, I'm not sure about the last one and I should know it too oh well Meg From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 22:09:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 18:09:00 -0400 Subject: Yahoo is a Mess!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C950 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Yahoo is a Mess!! Date: 4/4/00 6:09 pm (ET) Like others, I'll say that I'm *really* having a terrible time pulling up messages. It's gotten worse in the last 48 hours I would say. Sometimes I can read them, and then they disappear if I try to go back and respond. Sometimes, I can't pull them up at all. Sometimes it shoots me into the first 40 messages list. Weird! Glad to know I'm not the only one. Penny From sunchick_004 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 4 23:11:00 2000 From: sunchick_004 at yahoo.com (sunchick_004 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 19:11:00 -0400 Subject: Sorted... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C951 From: sunchick_004 Subject: Sorted... Date: 4/4/00 7:11 pm (ET) I am a muggle-born GRYFFINDOR....not meaning to brag or nothin... From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Wed Apr 5 02:09:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 22:09:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz III Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C952 From: sarvalsha Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz III Reply To: [Yahoo! #940] HP Trivia Quiz III Date: 4/4/00 10:09 pm (ET) I would think that the quiz was impossible except one person (who has taken herself out of official competition) has figured it out. So think about. Remember that the quotes are all related to the same set of events. But also remember NO BOOKS! If no one has figured it out when I sign back in tomorrow morning, I will begin adding one quote every hour. Current quizmaster From pt4ever at yahoo.com Wed Apr 5 03:39:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 23:39:00 -0400 Subject: Sorted... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C953 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Sorted... Reply To: [Yahoo! #951] Sorted... Date: 4/4/00 11:39 pm (ET) Hehehe...I'm a half-blood Ravenclaw! (Muggle father, witch mother...just like Tom Riddle! Oooh...creepy...) Ravenclaw definitely sounds like my house...I get pretty good grades and my favorite colors are blue and silver. And ravens are cool. :) I'm happy! -- JoAnna From janey_13 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 5 15:17:00 2000 From: janey_13 at yahoo.com (janey_13 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 11:17:00 -0400 Subject: HP director finally Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C954 From: janey_13 Subject: HP director finally Date: 4/5/00 11:17 am (ET) I read in the April 7 issue of Entertainment Weekly that Chris Columbus (Bicentennial Man) will direct the HP movie and that they will start shooting this summer. WB apparently signed him on the project on March 28. The blip is on page 16, in the monitor section under CHOSEN. From brewergirl at yahoo.com Wed Apr 5 15:46:00 2000 From: brewergirl at yahoo.com (brewergirl at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 11:46:00 -0400 Subject: Sorted... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C955 From: BrewerGirl Subject: Re: Sorted... Reply To: [Yahoo! #953] Re: Sorted... Date: 4/5/00 11:46 am (ET) I've been reading all the posts about people being sorted, so I broke down and went over for my turn with the Sorting Hat. Wow! I'm a pure-blooded wizard in Gryffindor! Just the boost I needed on a dreary Wednesday morning. Glad I checked. BrewerGirl From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Wed Apr 5 17:36:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 13:36:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz III Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C956 From: sarvalsha Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz III Reply To: [Yahoo! #952] Re: HP Trivia Quiz III Date: 4/5/00 1:36 pm (ET) Good morning everyone. I had one response to the quiz from someone who is on the right track. For the rest of you I have added one quote as promised. The new quotes will be lettered instead of numbered and the newest one marked as new. One will be added approximately every hour. See if it helps. Remember all quotes refer to one sequence of events in one book. Do not post your answers (or guesses); email me at mmcnie at mmsa.com. 1. I'm grateful . . . it will make everything much easier . . . 2. How long have you known? 3. Oh, we're going to be in so much trouble-- 4. How did you get this? 5. Are you insane? a. (NEW) He's not safe! Margaret From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Wed Apr 5 19:17:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 15:17:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz III Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C957 From: sarvalsha Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz III Reply To: [Yahoo! #956] Re: HP Trivia Quiz III Date: 4/5/00 3:17 pm (ET) Well we have a winner, Meg (mewilliamson). But for those of you still working on this, I will continue with the new quotes until the end of the day and post the answers then. Remember all quotes refer to one sequence of events in one book. The new quotes are lettered instead of numbered; the latest quote is marked new. Do not post your answers (or guesses); email me at mmcnie at mmsa.com. 1. I'm grateful . . . it will make everything much easier . . . 2. How long have you known? 3. Oh, we're going to be in so much trouble-- 4. How did you get this? b. (NEW) We -- we've been taking good care of him! 5. Are you insane? a. He's not safe! Margaret From mewilliamson at yahoo.com Wed Apr 5 19:19:00 2000 From: mewilliamson at yahoo.com (mewilliamson at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 15:19:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz III Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C958 From: mewilliamson Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz III Reply To: [Yahoo! #957] Re: HP Trivia Quiz III Date: 4/5/00 3:19 pm (ET) Now I have to make up the next quiz don't I oh well, I'm not posting anything untill tomorrow Meg From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 5 19:30:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 15:30:00 -0400 Subject: Sorted... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C959 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Sorted... Reply To: [Yahoo! #953] Re: Sorted... Date: 4/5/00 3:30 pm (ET) Since everyone seems to be doing it, I got sorted too. I just don't remember the Completeloser house. From itm55 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 5 20:19:00 2000 From: itm55 at yahoo.com (itm55 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 16:19:00 -0400 Subject: Sorted... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C960 From: itm55 Subject: Re: Sorted... Reply To: [Yahoo! #951] Sorted... Date: 4/5/00 4:19 pm (ET) ME TOO!!! I'm sooo happy. From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Wed Apr 5 20:44:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 16:44:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz III Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C961 From: sarvalsha Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz III Reply To: [Yahoo! #957] Re: HP Trivia Quiz III Date: 4/5/00 4:44 pm (ET) We have a winner, Meg (mewilliamson). But for those of you still working on this, I will continue with the new quotes until the end of the day and post the answers then. Remember all quotes refer to one sequence of events in one book. The new quotes are lettered instead of numbered; the latest quote is marked new. Do not post your answers (or guesses); email me at mmcnie at mmsa.com. 1. I'm grateful . . . it will make everything much easier . . . 2. How long have you known? 3. Oh, we're going to be in so much trouble-- 4. How did you get this? b. We -- we've been taking good care of him! c. (NEW) Sweet girl . . . clever girl . . . 5. Are you insane? a. He's not safe! Margaret From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Wed Apr 5 23:38:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 19:38:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz III Answers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C962 From: sarvalsha Subject: HP Trivia Quiz III Answers Date: 4/5/00 7:38 pm (ET) I was going to add one more quote but it doesn't seem worthwhile when the messages keep disappearing. I'm assuming everyone else is also still having problems. We did have a winner, Meg (mewilliamson). She will be creating a new quiz. All quotes occurred during the confrontation in the Shrieking Shack toward the end of POA: from Sirius confronting Harry to Lupin turning into a werewolf. 1. I'm grateful . . . it will make everything much easier . . . (Sirius to Harry, thanking Harry for not going for a teacher) 2. How long have you known? (Lupin to Hermione, about his being a werewolf) 3. Oh, we're going to be in so much trouble-- (Hermione to Harry and Ron, about zapping Snape) 4. How did you get this? (Lupin to Sirius, about the newspaper clipping of the Weasleys with Scabbers) b. We -- we've been taking good care of him! (Ron, about Scabbers surviving so long) c. (NEW) Sweet girl . . . clever girl . . . (Pettigrew to Hermione, trying to get her to save him) 5. Are you insane? (Harry to Sirius, about whether Harry wanted to stay with the Dursleys or live with Sirius) a. He's not safe! (Hermione, about Lupin as he is turning into a werewolf) Margaret From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 5 23:40:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 19:40:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz III Answers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C963 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz III Answers Reply To: [Yahoo! #962] HP Trivia Quiz III Answers Date: 4/5/00 7:40 pm (ET) Well, I was TOTALLY on the wrong track! From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 01:41:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:41:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz III Answers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C964 From: sarvalsha Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz III Answers Reply To: [Yahoo! #963] Re: HP Trivia Quiz III Answers Date: 4/5/00 9:41 pm (ET) Exactly what track were you on? From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 01:56:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 21:56:00 -0400 Subject: Movie Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C965 From: sarvalsha Subject: Movie Date: 4/5/00 9:56 pm (ET) Just got around to Monday's paper (LA Times) last night and there was a big article on the movie and what the fans want as opposed to what the studio/filmmaker may do. Said most fans were not thrilled with the choice of Chris Columbus (I'll go along with that). Said Columbus plans on a British Harry; studio agrees they want British kids and hopes to shoot the film in London. The following were mentioned in the article: Snape: Alan Rickman, Johnny Depp, Christopher Walken (my choice is Alan Cummings from Cabaret; Rickman would be great as Voldemort) Hermione: Hatty Jones from Madeline, Lindsay Lohan from Parent Trap Mrs. Weasley: Rosie O'Donnell (if she can master the accent, she'd be wonderful, especially since she turned so many of us onto the books), Reba McEntire (because of the red hair; but I don't think it ever says that she has red hair, only her husband and all the kids) Hagrid: Robin Williams, Gerard Depardieu, Peter Mayhew who was Chewbacca, Andre the Giant if he was still alive, Billy Connolly The Dursleys: the Bundys from Married with Children Mrs. Dursley: Shelley Duvall, Brenda Blethyn Mrs. Dursley: Jim Broadbent from Topsy-Turvy Professor Dumbledore: John Gielgud, Peter O'Toole, Ian McKellen, Peter Ustinov, Sean Connery, Patrick Stewart, Patrick Godfrey who played Da Vinci in Ever After (we talked about this at last week's chat and came up with Michael Caine) Voldemort: Jack Nicholson Margaret From quidditchfan at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 02:47:00 2000 From: quidditchfan at yahoo.com (quidditchfan at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 22:47:00 -0400 Subject: Movie Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C966 From: quidditchfan Subject: Re: Movie Reply To: [Yahoo! #965] Movie Date: 4/5/00 10:47 pm (ET) I think Alan Rickman would be great as Snape! I know the Dursley's are English, but I always picture them like Danny DeVito & his wife (forget her name - Carla from Cheers...) in Matilda. OR a couple similar to the couple who played the Salt's in Charlie & the Chocolate factory. Hermione - those actresses are too cutesy. I think I'd prefer unknowns for Harry, Ron & Hermione. I'd have to think about the others some more... From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 02:48:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2000 22:48:00 -0400 Subject: Can't Read Messages Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C967 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Can't Read Messages Date: 4/5/00 10:48 pm (ET) The last message I can view is 954 from 11:00 a.m. this morning. I can see some of the more recent ones in the list but it won't let me view the full text of the messages. Barbara, have you had any luck getting a response from yahoo as to why this is a problem for so many of us all of a sudden? Thanks! Penny From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 11:03:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 07:03:00 -0400 Subject: Movie Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C968 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Movie Reply To: [Yahoo! #965] Movie Date: 4/6/00 7:03 am (ET) On our board quite a long time ago, someone brought up the idea of casting Robin Williams not as Hagrid, but in the role of Peeves. And that's the way I've pictured him ever since. And I love the idea of Christopher Walken as Snape! But yes, I believe that Michael Caine would be perfect as Dumbledore. As to the most recent quiz, I somehow thought that it had something to do with the marauder's map. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 12:36:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 08:36:00 -0400 Subject: Movie Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C969 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Movie Reply To: [Yahoo! #965] Movie Date: 4/6/00 8:36 am (ET) Here's the link to the LA Times article: http://www.calendarlive.com/calendarlive/movies/lat_potter000404.html From arawa_99 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 15:59:00 2000 From: arawa_99 at yahoo.com (arawa_99 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 11:59:00 -0400 Subject: Movie Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C970 From: arawa_99 Subject: Re: Movie Reply To: [Yahoo! #969] Re: Movie Date: 4/6/00 11:59 am (ET) OK - who else loves the idea of Jack Nicholson as Voldemort - a real bad, bad guy!!!! From mewilliamson at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 16:07:00 2000 From: mewilliamson at yahoo.com (mewilliamson at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:07:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz IV Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C971 From: mewilliamson Subject: HP Trivia Quiz IV Date: 4/6/00 12:07 pm (ET) ok, here is the next quiz, its all from the same book, but not all in the same spot I want who said it and what they are talking about 1) Brazil, here I come...Thanksss amigo. 2) Dunno if he had enough human left in him to die. 3) Give us a look Lee, go on. 4) Well you can't expect him to hang around all day, he'll be back. 5)Nitwit! Blubber! Oddment! Tweak! E-mail me your answers at mewilliamson at yahoo.com Meg From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 16:10:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:10:00 -0400 Subject: Movie Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C972 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Movie Reply To: [Yahoo! #970] Re: Movie Date: 4/6/00 12:10 pm (ET) Hmmm... Now, I agree that Nicholson can play a really good bad guy. But I always thought of Voldemort as sort of thin and wispy - not um... the only word I have is "solid"... like Nicholson. Not like he's fat or anything, he just seems more substantial and earthly than I'd like Voldemort to be. Of course, I've also always thought Dumbledore had to be "wispy", too... Now that I've put those qualities out there, I can't think of anyone off hand that meets them. ;) I'll have to think more about who I'd want to play them. Jen From b_drey at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 16:11:00 2000 From: b_drey at yahoo.com (b_drey at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:11:00 -0400 Subject: Can't Read Messages Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C973 From: b_drey Subject: Re: Can't Read Messages Reply To: [Yahoo! #967] Can't Read Messages Date: 4/6/00 12:11 pm (ET) No - nothing - but it's happening in all the Yahoo clubs I belong to. It seems to come and go. It usually takes Yahoo several days or weeks to respond, and then the answer bears no relation to my message. If it is still a problem today, I'm going to scout around for another way to reach Yahoo. - Barbara PENNY - I'd like to ask you something privately. Could you please send me a email by using the "contact the founder" feature on the club's home page. Thanks. From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 16:37:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 12:37:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C974 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/6/00 12:37 pm (ET) . . .that I've been picturing the late Denholm Elliot as Dumbledore this whole time. He woulda been great. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 17:48:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 13:48:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C975 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #974] Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/6/00 1:48 pm (ET) Does anyone else watch "Star Trek: Voyager"? Well, I'm of the opinion that Kate Mulgrew (Captain Janeway) would make a great Minvera McGonagall. :) But, I doubt that many people watch Trek, so you probably have no idea who I'm talking about. I think Rosie O'Donnell would be a *fantastic* Mrs. Weasley! As for Jack Nicholson as Voldemort...well...I've never been able to picture him as anyone other than the Joker from Batman. It's terrible. Even in "As Good As It Gets," all I could think was, "Na na na na na na na na na, BATMAN!" I don't suffer from insanity...I enjoy every minute of it. :) -- JoAnna From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 18:09:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:09:00 -0400 Subject: Casting of Titanic proportions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C976 From: melaniem68 Subject: Casting of Titanic proportions Date: 4/6/00 2:09 pm (ET) I was just thinking about the movie Titanic the other day, and a few casting ideas occurred to me. Don't worry, I'm *not* going to suggest Leonardo DiCaprio as Harry <g>, or even Lockhart. Although, despite his dark hair, I can easily see Billy Zane as Lockhart. Anyway, who I was really thinking of was Kate Winslett. Wouldn't she be great in a cameo role as Lily Potter? The description of Lily can easily fit Kate, and she's probably about the age Lily was when she died. And, for as little as Lily appears (pictures, the Mirror of Erisid, her voice when the Dementors appear), Kate wouldn't have to take much time out for filming. Or maybe I'm subconciously still thinking of that thread last month about Lily Potter being on the Titanic. Also, remember the two little Irish children, The ones who were in bed when the ship sank, with their mother telling them a story? I don't know how old they are now, but I thought they might make a good Ron and Ginny. Just a little more food for casting thought. Melanie From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 18:12:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:12:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C977 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #975] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/6/00 2:12 pm (ET) <Kate Mulgrew (Captain Janeway) would make a great Minvera McGonagall. :) But, I doubt that many people watch Trek, so you probably have no idea who I'm talking about.> It's been a long time since I've seen Voyager, but I know exactly who you're talking about. I hadn't thought of her, but she'd be great. Melanie From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 18:19:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:19:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C978 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #977] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/6/00 2:19 pm (ET) Kate Mulgrew would be awesome as Minvera McGonagall! (Of course I know who she is; I think I've seen every episode of Voyager. ; ) And I'm pretty sure I've heard her do both an Irish and Scottish brogue, so I know she could do it whichever they choose. And I've decided that *I* want to be Madame Hooch! From itm55 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 18:34:00 2000 From: itm55 at yahoo.com (itm55 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:34:00 -0400 Subject: Rosie Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C979 From: itm55 Subject: Rosie Date: 4/6/00 2:34 pm (ET) I too think Rosie would be great as Mrs. Weasley. But how about Anthony Hopkins as Professor Dumbledore? Anybody? From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 18:34:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:34:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C980 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #978] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/6/00 2:34 pm (ET) Captain Janeway as McGonagal? (I missed one of the seasons but that's all) I'll have to give that some thought. I've always thought of Minerva more in terms of Ms. Marples... a smallish, elderly British lady with a razor sharp mind. And I'm terribly sorry voicelady but you are much too thin to be Madame Hooch. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 18:38:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 14:38:00 -0400 Subject: Yahoo clubs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C981 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Yahoo clubs Date: 4/6/00 2:38 pm (ET) The system seems to be a bit better today. It really started having problems during the Beckhorn Affair. Maybe we just overwhelmed it with the volume of comments... You know what the Weasley's always say. "Don't trust anything that thinks if you can't see where it keeps its brain." I guess the Internet falls in that class. From mewilliamson at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 19:08:00 2000 From: mewilliamson at yahoo.com (mewilliamson at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:08:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz IV Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C982 From: mewilliamson Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz IV Reply To: [Yahoo! #971] HP Trivia Quiz IV Date: 4/6/00 3:08 pm (ET) We have a winner congrats to Karen for getting the correct answers first. I will not be posting the correct answers untill tomorrow so you can keep guessing Meg From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 19:12:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:12:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C983 From: sarvalsha Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #980] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/6/00 3:12 pm (ET) I've never seen Star Trek Voyager but I know who Kate Mulgrew is. She's Mary Ryan from Ryan's Hope. I could claim to know that from watching Rosie (she's obsessed with Ryan's Hope) but I actually used to watch it (boy does that date me). Kate Mulgrew was also on Cheers for a while as Sam's girlfriend. I love her but I have to admit that I've always thought of Professor McGongall as older. I love Joan Plowright. . . oh and Judi Dench. They're wonderful and English! Can we find a role for them do you think? Margaret From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 19:59:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:59:00 -0400 Subject: Madame Hooch Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C984 From: melaniem68 Subject: Madame Hooch Date: 4/6/00 3:59 pm (ET) A few weeks ago, I saw "Grease" again. Since then, I've always pictured Dody Goodman (the shop teacher) as Madame Hooch. Of course, she's probably too old for the part now. Melanie From brewergirl at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 19:59:00 2000 From: brewergirl at yahoo.com (brewergirl at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 15:59:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C985 From: BrewerGirl Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #983] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/6/00 3:59 pm (ET) Not that it matters, but wasn't Kate Mulgrew also "Mrs. Columbo"? (Uh-oh, showing my age!) Excellent suggestions on casting .... I hadn't been putting faces to any of the characters until I read some of these posts. My favorites so far are Billy Connolly for Hagrid, Judi Dench for McGonagle, Alan Rickman for Snape, and Rosie O'Donnell for Mrs. Weasley. I don't think Jack Nicholson "fits" as Voldemort either. I think of someone more like Christopher Walken in that role. Not that Mr. Columbus is apt to ask me ...... ! BrewerGirl From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 20:38:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 16:38:00 -0400 Subject: Yahoo Club Problems Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C986 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Yahoo Club Problems Date: 4/6/00 4:38 pm (ET) I complained too when we were having so much trouble and this is the response I just got from them: Hello, Thanks for your email. As you know, Yahoo! Message Boards sometimes experience delays and posting problems. We want to reassure you that we have been working diligently to rectify this issue as soon as possible. We apologize for the great measure of frustration you have experienced using message boards. Thank you for your patience as we work to improve this site for you and other users. Your satisfaction is of the utmost importance to us. Please let us know if you have further questions. Regards, Customer Care I don't know about you but that really clarifies things for me. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 21:16:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 17:16:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C987 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #980] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/6/00 5:16 pm (ET) <<And I'm terribly sorry voicelady but you are much too thin to be Madame Hooch.>> Gee, thanks...I think... So do you have a hidden camera in my house or something? From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 21:26:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 17:26:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C988 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #980] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/6/00 5:26 pm (ET) Too thin? Bah, we can take care of that in a jif. You ever seen this gal in Grimaldi's? From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 6 23:19:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 19:19:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C989 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #988] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/6/00 7:19 pm (ET) For those of you not in the New York area, Grimaldi's has probably the best pizza - IN THE WORLD! Truly, I kid you not. Anyway, is it "Tease Voicelady Day" today or something? If so, I'll take it. I had the absolute worst day at work today. From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 01:52:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 21:52:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C990 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #989] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/6/00 9:52 pm (ET) Let's see. About being too thin to play Madame Hooch: Well, obviously, I wouldn't know how thin or not you are, voicelady, but I always pictured Madame Hooch as a woman with a um... softball player's build, if you know what I mean. You know, big and athletic. Sports fan, active, typical ref-type woman. re: teasing voicelady day. Nanananana... ;) J/k, I'm sure that since you're home, it'll be better. Now, I just had a revelation. As Mrs. Dursley - you know the description in the first book where it tells you she's blonde, thin, and has more than twice the usual amount of neck? I've got the perfect actress: the blonde woman from Absolutely Fabulous (also in James and the Giant Peach). Darn, I wish I could remember her name, offhand, but she IS British, and that's who I picture everytime I read about Mrs. Dursley. Can anyone help me out with her name? Jen From brewergirl at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 03:16:00 2000 From: brewergirl at yahoo.com (brewergirl at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:16:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C991 From: BrewerGirl Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #990] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/6/00 11:16 pm (ET) Patsy in "Absolutely Fabulous" was played by Joanna Lumley. That description of Mrs. Dursley fits her perfectly! BrewerGirl From b_drey at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 03:45:00 2000 From: b_drey at yahoo.com (b_drey at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2000 23:45:00 -0400 Subject: Fare Well Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C992 From: b_drey Subject: Fare Well Date: 4/6/00 11:45 pm (ET) Dear GREAT Harry Potter Fans: Thank you so much for joining this club - Unfortunately, I am no longer able to be the "founder", but Penny (plinsenmayer) has agreed to take over the reins. Because of tedious Yahoo procedure, I have to quit altogether and rejoin under another name - which will be very similar to my current one. I'll look forward to our discussions on the future books. I just want to thank you again for joining this club and making it such an interesting and great place to talk about Harry Potter. Barbara From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 05:45:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 01:45:00 -0400 Subject: Fare Well Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C993 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Fare Well Reply To: [Yahoo! #992] Fare Well Date: 4/7/00 1:45 am (ET) Ack! You scared me! I started reading this and thought that you were leaving because you were upset at something or other (whether it be our recent threads of conversation, or yahoo being all messed up)... then I kept reading and realized you weren't abandoning us altogether, just resigning as "founder". Well, though I'm sad that you're pretty much forced to do so, I'm glad to hear that you're coming back. Jen (btw, don't thank me (I didn't want to say us, for fear that some of us want to be thanked, hehehe) for joining, thank YOU for creating it! Yay, Barbara!) From quidditchfan at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 14:04:00 2000 From: quidditchfan at yahoo.com (quidditchfan at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 10:04:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz V Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C994 From: quidditchfan Subject: HP Trivia Quiz V Date: 4/7/00 10:04 am (ET) Here is today's quiz. E-mail me at quidditchfan at hotmail.com with the answers. Name the 5 characters described below & the book the descriptions came from: (all are from the same book) 1) "their only ghost teacher" 2) "a twisted old looney" 3) "large bat-like ears and bulging green eyes the size of tennis balls" 4) "a squat little witch who wore a patched hat over her flyaway hair" 5) "a very small, mousy haired boy" Good luck! Karen :o) From pt4ever at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 16:20:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 12:20:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C995 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #991] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/7/00 12:20 pm (ET) Anyone seen the movie version of "James and the Giant Peach"? Wouldn't the skinny aunt (I can't remember her name, but the fat aunt was Sponge) be pretty good for Mrs. Dursley? She does have red hair (albeit ugly) and didn't Lily Potter have red hair too? I seem to remember that from the mirror of Esrid, but maybe I'm mistaken... -- JoAnna From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 16:48:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 12:48:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C996 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #995] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/7/00 12:48 pm (ET) It seems like everyone's mind is running on the same track today. I'm pretty sure that actress was Joanna Lumley. Someone mentioned her earler as "the woman from Absolutely Fabulous." Actually, I think she WOULD be absolutely fabulous in the part! She's very often cast in those types of roles: Patsy, Nellie Lovett (Showtime's version of Sweeny Todd), the mother-in-law of Ross on Friends (albeit only for two episodes), etc. (I am just a font of useless information...) And am I remembering correctly when I think that someone offered Bob Hoskins as a suggestion for Mr. Dursley a while back? I think the two of them would make a wonderful team, if we're going to try for an all-British cast. From mewilliamson at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 17:27:00 2000 From: mewilliamson at yahoo.com (mewilliamson at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 13:27:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz IV Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C997 From: mewilliamson Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz IV Reply To: [Yahoo! #971] HP Trivia Quiz IV Date: 4/7/00 1:27 pm (ET) And the answers are 1) Brazil, here I come...Thanksss amigo. the snake that hary set loose 2) Dunno if he had enough human left in him to die. hagrad about Voldermort 3) Give us a look Lee, go on. anonomous kid about lee's tarantula 4) Well you can't expect him to hang around all day, he'll be back. ron about dumbledore's picture 5)Nitwit! Blubber! Oddment! Tweak! Dumbeldore at the begining of the year feast Meg From janey_13 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 17:58:00 2000 From: janey_13 at yahoo.com (janey_13 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 13:58:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C998 From: janey_13 Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #996] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/7/00 1:58 pm (ET) If we are going along the Brittish lines...how about Tim Curry as Snape? From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 18:01:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:01:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C999 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #996] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/7/00 2:01 pm (ET) actually, Ross's mil was Edina, not Patsy... I think. What was her name? Someone Saunders, right? Darnit. I wish I had Comedy Central - they always run reruns of those shows. (Boy, it was either Jennifer French or Jennifer Saunders, and either way, I'm embarrassed that I can't remember which one had MY NAME.) Yes, btw, it was the same woman in James and the Giant Peach, and I finally remembered the name of the other movie she was in that I recently saw: Cold Comfort Farm. Funny. And Bob Hoskins for Mr. Dursley! Yes. Yes yes yes yes. From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 18:05:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:05:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1000 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #998] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/7/00 2:05 pm (ET) <If we are going along the Brittish lines...how about Tim Curry as Snape? > I think Tim Curry would make a great Snape. Or how about Jeremy Irons? From quidditchfan at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 18:40:00 2000 From: quidditchfan at yahoo.com (quidditchfan at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:40:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1001 From: quidditchfan Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #1000] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/7/00 2:40 pm (ET) Tim Curry might be good for Voldemort too. From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 18:47:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 14:47:00 -0400 Subject: Just occurred to me. . . Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1002 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: Just occurred to me. . . Reply To: [Yahoo! #999] Re: Just occurred to me. . . Date: 4/7/00 2:47 pm (ET) It is Jennifer Saunders. The reason you remember both names (French/Saunders) is because she was part of a comedy team: French and Saunders. Their show was played on PBS for a short time, in the US. I think that French had something to do with AbFab, but I'm not sure. From sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 19:23:00 2000 From: sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com (sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:23:00 -0400 Subject: hi! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1003 From: sweetandsour6453 Subject: hi! Date: 4/7/00 3:23 pm (ET) I'm a new member who absoultly loves Harry Potter. I read a lot of your old posts, and there hasn't been much said about the 4th book latley. Does anyone no much about what is to be about? Besides the World Cup? I'm Hopeful that we will see the return of Black. Also I wonder what is in store for the kids with the Defense Against the Dark Arts job. If they had a Wearwolf in POA who knows what Rowling has in store this time? I can't wait to hear what you all would like to see happen or your predictions. Kimmy From sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 19:24:00 2000 From: sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com (sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 15:24:00 -0400 Subject: oops one more thing Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1004 From: sweetandsour6453 Subject: oops one more thing Date: 4/7/00 3:24 pm (ET) I 4 got to mention that i'm not a adult, but i love Harry Potter and just want some good conversation about it. Hope nobody minds! From quidditchfan at yahoo.com Fri Apr 7 22:35:00 2000 From: quidditchfan at yahoo.com (quidditchfan at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 18:35:00 -0400 Subject: We Have a Winner... Quiz V Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1005 From: quidditchfan Subject: We Have a Winner... Quiz V Date: 4/7/00 6:35 pm (ET) Congrats to melaniem68 (melanie) for getting all the answers to Quiz V. Here are the answers (all descriptions were from Chamber of Secrets): 1) Prof. Binns 2) Salazar Slytherin - as described by Ron 3) Dobby 4) Prof. Sprout 5) Colin Creevy #2 was the toughie... Karen From jen_lorin at yahoo.com Sat Apr 8 00:45:00 2000 From: jen_lorin at yahoo.com (jen_lorin at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 20:45:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter readers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1006 From: jen_lorin Subject: Harry Potter readers Date: 4/7/00 8:45 pm (ET) Hello, all. I would like to ask your assistance in a quest I am on. I am an American Masters student at the London School of Economics. I am studying towards a Masters in Social Psychology. When I was home over the winter break, I read all three of the Harry Potter books, and really fell for them. I fell for them to such an extent that I decided to center my Masters degree thesis around them! As an adult HP reader myself, I am interested to look at what other adult readers draw out of these books. I'd be very grateful if I could contact you and spend about a half hour getting your take on the books. Assuming that you all probably live in the States, it would most likely be a phone interview, for which I would call you from London. If by some chance you live near me in the U.S., the other option would be a face-to-face conversation when I come home for a week in June. If you are interested or would first like more information on me or my thesis, please either contact me via the club messages, or email me at jenlorin at hotmail.com. Thanks so much! On an unrelated note, what are your thoughts on the role of Sirius Black in Harry's life? Do you think it's important for the balance in the plot that he stay with the miserable Dursleys? I found myself so much wanting Harry to have the sense of family that could come from him living with Sirius, but I wasn't sure if Rowling would ever alter such an important element in the storyline... From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 8 07:30:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 03:30:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz VI Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1007 From: melaniem68 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz VI Date: 4/8/00 3:30 am (ET) Here is today's quiz, and we're back to the smorgasbord (sp?) of unrelated quotes from all three books. :) For each quote, name: (a) the book it comes from (b) the speaker (c) the person(s) to whom he or she is speaking E-mail the answers to melaniem68 at yahoo.com. Enter as many times as you wish, but (as always) no consulting your books. At 4:00 PM, Pacific time (7:00 by Yahoo standards), I will close the contest and collect all the answers. The winner will be the one with the most right answers in the fewest tries. If there is a tie, I will randomly select the next contest writer from among the winners. This is to give all time zones (or as many as possible) a chance. I will announce the answers and the winner(s) at about 5:00 PM Pacific time. Well, without further ado, here goes. Good luck. Melanie 1) "You shall not harm Harry Potter!" 2) "One can never have enough socks." 3) "I beg your pardon? Our common room? I'm a Ravenclaw." 4) "Still in the showers. We think he's trying to drown himself." 5) "The forest hides many secrets." From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 8 15:39:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 11:39:00 -0400 Subject: oops one more thing Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1008 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: oops one more thing Reply To: [Yahoo! #1004] oops one more thing Date: 4/8/00 11:39 am (ET) <<I 4 got to mention that i'm not a adult, but i love Harry Potter and just want some good conversation about it. Hope nobody minds!>> Of course we don't mind. You're very welcome here. And by the way, "adult" does not necessarily always refer to chronological age. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Sat Apr 8 20:58:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 16:58:00 -0400 Subject: the basilisk Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1009 From: pt4ever Subject: the basilisk Date: 4/8/00 4:58 pm (ET) As some of you may or may not know, I'm a college student (a freshman) majoring in English. I'm currently taking an English course called, "The Bible As Literature," and, while I was working on an assignment today, I came across something in the book "Signs and Symbols in Christian Art" by George Ferguson. Forgive me if this was already mentioned/discussed prior to me joining the club, but in the book, I found an entry for "basilisk": "The basilisk is a fabulous animal, half cock and half snake. And according to legend, the bsilisk could kill merely by its glance. In early symbolism, the basilisk was commonly accepted as the symbol of the Devil or the Antichrist, an interpretation based on a passage from Psalm 91:13, which reads 'thou shalt tread upon the adder and the basilisk and trample under foot the lion and the dragon.' These four animals were interpreted by St. Augustine as four aspects of the Denvil, who was trodden down my the triumphing Christ. Though a well-established symbol, and often represented in the Middle Ages, the basilisk rarely appears in Italian paintings of the Renaissance." I'd always thought that the basilisk was a creation by Ms. Rowling, but I guess I was wrong! Furthermore, since the basilisk is representative of the Antichrist, and in CoS Harry Potter defeats it, how could the HP books be promoting witchcraft as a form of devil worship? That's a pretty good argument for those who insist that anyone who reads HP is going straight to hot sizzling hell. There's also a picture, albeit a small one, of a basilisk in my book, if anyone would like me to scan it and post it on the photos page. I'd better get back to my homework now. :) -- JoAnna From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Apr 8 23:00:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 19:00:00 -0400 Subject: the basilisk Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1010 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: the basilisk Reply To: [Yahoo! #1009] the basilisk Date: 4/8/00 7:00 pm (ET) Hi JoAnna: Basilisk was one of the few JKR references I've been able to look up in a standard (non-Oxford unabridged) dictionary. The dictionary, however, didn't include all that information about it being a symbol of the AntiChrist. That was quite interesting. Please do scan your photo and put in the photos area if it's not too much trouble. Penny From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 9 01:21:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 21:21:00 -0400 Subject: Results to HP Trivia Quiz VI Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1011 From: melaniem68 Subject: Results to HP Trivia Quiz VI Date: 4/8/00 9:21 pm (ET) Sorry to post this so late. I waited a little after 4:00, in case any e-mail hadn't made it through due to Yahoo problems. But I have the results here. We have two winners for HP Trivia Quiz VI. JoAnna (Pt4ever) and Jen (JenP_97) tied for first place. In a random drawing, I picked JoAnna to bring us Quiz VII. Congratulations to both of you, and thank you to all who played. The correct answers are below. Melanie 1) "You shall not harm Harry Potter!" Chamber of Secrets: Dobby to Lucius Malfoy. Harry had just tricked Lucius into freeing Dobby. Realizing what he'd done, Lucius had moved threateningly toward Harry. ************************************* 2) "One can never have enough socks." Sorcorer's Stone: Dumbledore to Harry. Harry had just asked what Dumbledore would like to see in the Mirror of Erisid. ************************************* 3) "I beg your pardon? Our common room? I'm a Ravenclaw." Chamber of Secrets: Penelope Clearwater to Ron and Harry (disguised as Crabbe and Goyle). Ron had asked for directions to "their" (the Slytherin) common room. ************************************* 4) "Still in the showers. We think he's trying to drown himself." Prisoner of Azkaban: Fred (partial credit for an unspecified Weasley twin) to Harry. The Gryffindor Quidditch team (sans Oliver Wood) was visiting Harry in the hospital wing after their loss to Hufflepuff. Harry had just asked where Wood was. ************************************* 5) "The forest hides many secrets." Sorcorer's Stone: Ronan (partial credit for an unspecified centaur) to Hagrid. Hagrid was taking Hermione, Harry and Hraco (I mean Draco) through the forbidden forest looking for injured unicorns, as a detention punishment. Hagrid had just asked Ronan if he had seen anything unusual in the forest. From cj_bsm at yahoo.com Sun Apr 9 03:30:00 2000 From: cj_bsm at yahoo.com (cj_bsm at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 23:30:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter readers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1012 From: cj_bsm Subject: Re: Harry Potter readers Reply To: [Yahoo! #1006] Harry Potter readers Date: 4/8/00 11:30 pm (ET) Oh, I so much wanted Harry to go live with Black, heck I want to go live with Black : ) , but the Durselys provide such a vivid counterpoint to Hogwarts. His escapes from the Durseleys have been great, and it provides such a relief to get back to Hogwarts. The Durseleys also provide (as Dummbledor understood) a grounding for Harry. He isn't famous or special there. They have provided Harry with empathy, not by being empathetic, mind you, but by treating Harry so poorly, Harry can empathize with witches and wizards at hogwarts that aren't particularly special. As much as I want Sirius around more, I think JKR might save sirius for some other adventure, and the durseleys as the wizarding relief (so to speak...kind of like comic relief) I'll email you on your request for an interview...sounds intriguing (I can't spell tonight!!!) cj From pt4ever at yahoo.com Sun Apr 9 06:32:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 02:32:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz VII Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1013 From: pt4ever Subject: HP Trivia Quiz VII Date: 4/9/00 2:32 am (ET) Okay, here's another quiz! Rules are generally the same as last time, just tell me who said it, to whom it was said, and what book it was said in. Here's a hint: there are two quotes from each book. I'll select a winner tomorrow night, probably late, because I don't get off work until 10:30pm (Mountain time). :) E-mail me your answers at pt4ever at yahoo.com, and thanks for playing! *** *** *** 1. "This is magic at its deepest, its most impenetrable." 2. "Honestly, if you were any slower, you'd be going backward." 3. "Christmas is a time for family." 4. "I shouldn't have hit him at the Quidditch match, that's why he's doing this." 5. "D'you think we've got nothing better to do in Potions than listen to Snape?" 6. "I don't remember ever meeting a student whose mind was so hopelessly mundane." *** *** *** -- JoAnna From jen_lorin at yahoo.com Sun Apr 9 11:57:00 2000 From: jen_lorin at yahoo.com (jen_lorin at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 07:57:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter readers/Sirius Black Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1014 From: jen_lorin Subject: Re: Harry Potter readers/Sirius Black Reply To: [Yahoo! #1012] Re: Harry Potter readers Date: 4/9/00 7:57 am (ET) Very good points about the role of the Dursleys both in the storyline and in Harry's life. I think it's the part of me that likes Harry and therefore wants him to be happy (and also the part of me that always wants the happy ending!) that wishes to see him go live with Sirius. If HP can't live with Black, I hope Black is at least a presence in the rest of the stories-- I like the idea that Harry has a protector, as he's never really had any true sense of family. Perhaps Rowling will let Harry live with him at the end of the series?? Jen :) From jen_lorin at yahoo.com Sun Apr 9 11:58:00 2000 From: jen_lorin at yahoo.com (jen_lorin at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 07:58:00 -0400 Subject: 7 books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1015 From: jen_lorin Subject: 7 books Date: 4/9/00 7:58 am (ET) Hello, all. Apologies if this is something you discussed before I joined the club: do you think there's any chance that Rowling will expand the series beyond 7 books? jlt From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sun Apr 9 14:13:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 10:13:00 -0400 Subject: 7 books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1016 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: 7 books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1015] 7 books Date: 4/9/00 10:13 am (ET) I believe I read once that JKR had said in an interview that she hadn't "ruled out" the possibility of doing more books. However, in that same interview, I believe she emphasized that 7 books was really all she currently contemplated. Here's hoping she changes her mind! I'd love to see her do some post-Hogwarts books. I think I also read somewhere that she had indicated she had enough material for 12 books but had decided to do one for each of Harry's years at Hogwarts -- a nice cyclical pattern. The fact that the series could have been 12 books may explain why each book gets progressively longer than the previous one. The increasing length also makes me quite happy. Book 7 should be well over 1000 pages with the current pattern! Penny From davehoz at yahoo.com Sun Apr 9 20:10:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 16:10:00 -0400 Subject: 7 books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1017 From: davehoz Subject: Re: 7 books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1016] Re: 7 books Date: 4/9/00 4:10 pm (ET) My guess is that the "Sherlock-Holmes-at-Reichenbach-Falls Syndrome" will kick in: JKR will attempt to end the series at Book 7, but the "Insatiable Oliver Twists" will demand "more!" and JKR will be obliged to write about Harry for the rest of her career.BTW, my name is Dave and I'm new here. My other interests include Computer Graphics, Science, Nature/Ecology and Creative Writing. My other favorite authors are Jane Austen, L. Frank Baum (the _Wizard of Oz_ Books), and Douglas Adams (_The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_ series). From davehoz at yahoo.com Sun Apr 9 20:18:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 16:18:00 -0400 Subject: Recommended books from the HP haters Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1018 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Recommended books from the HP haters Reply To: [Yahoo! #938] Recommended books from the HP haters Date: 4/9/00 4:18 pm (ET) The minute I saw Louisa May Alcott's books on the list I thought that the arguments about Harry being "anti-family" could easily be applied to _Little Men_, which is also about a bunch of kids who prefer their idyllic boarding school to their biological "families"... From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 9 20:39:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 16:39:00 -0400 Subject: Recommended books from the HP haters Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1019 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Recommended books from the HP haters Reply To: [Yahoo! #1018] Re: Recommended books from the HP haters Date: 4/9/00 4:39 pm (ET) I hadn't thought about that but it is true. The book that really caught my eye was Tom Sawyer... Tom, as we all know, was big on natural families, always respected authority, never ventured into dangerous situations, and never did anything involving magic (certainly nothing involving dead cats, grave yards and midnight). I hope the sarcasm is coming through. And as an extra bonus, Tom Sawyer dealt with race in a less than delicate way. Tom Sawyer and Harry Potter have much in common. Personally I think Harry is better. From sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 9 22:07:00 2000 From: sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com (sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 18:07:00 -0400 Subject: 7 books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1020 From: sweetandsour6453 Subject: 7 books Date: 4/9/00 6:07 pm (ET) I think it would be neat if Rowling extended the serise past 7 books, unless she ran out of good material. That's why I think that normaly the first book is better than the sequl. (take A wrinkel in time. I loved that, but the Sequal, A wind in the Door in my opinion was not as good.) I think thats because there main idea has already been written so the quality may not be as good of ideas. Although so far, with Rowling that has not been true! POA is my favorite. So maybe she will prove my theory wrong! :) Kimmy From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Apr 10 00:46:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 2000 20:46:00 -0400 Subject: 7 books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1021 From: davehoz Subject: Re: 7 books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1020] 7 books Date: 4/9/00 8:46 pm (ET) Your theory may be true in general, but I think there are many exceptions. I've always preferred _Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator_ to _C. and the Chocolate Factory_; and many of the later Oz books -- _Land of Oz_, _Patchwork Girl of Oz_, etc. etc. -- are IMHO superior to _Wizard_. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Mon Apr 10 04:38:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 00:38:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz VII Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1022 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz VII Date: 4/10/00 12:38 am (ET) Did I make the quiz too hard? No one has entered! Well, I'll give y'all until tomorrow night. :) -- JoAnna From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Mon Apr 10 13:17:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 09:17:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz VII Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1023 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz VII Reply To: [Yahoo! #1022] Re: HP Trivia Quiz VII Date: 4/10/00 9:17 am (ET) Hi JoAnna: I entered! I'll resend my message now. Penny From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Apr 10 18:11:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 14:11:00 -0400 Subject: 7 books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1024 From: norevoli Subject: Re: 7 books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1017] Re: 7 books Date: 4/10/00 2:11 pm (ET) welcome dave! you know, I've read Jane Austen's pride and prejudice and its pretty good, i heard her other books are all basically almost the same... is that true? cuz i want to read more of her. From mewilliamson at yahoo.com Mon Apr 10 19:18:00 2000 From: mewilliamson at yahoo.com (mewilliamson at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 15:18:00 -0400 Subject: 7 books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1025 From: mewilliamson Subject: Re: 7 books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1017] Re: 7 books Date: 4/10/00 3:18 pm (ET) < Douglas Adams (_The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy_ series). > I loved that series (or rather the 1 1/2 books of the series I have read) I also agree that she is going to have to do more books after he gets out of school, but I think that the storyline might start to go downhill once she does Meg From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 10 20:24:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:24:00 -0400 Subject: 7 books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1026 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: 7 books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1024] Re: 7 books Date: 4/10/00 4:24 pm (ET) I've read oh... almost all of Jane Austen's books, and there's something to the comment that they're almost all basically the same. However, since I love the style, I love all the books. Pride and Prejudice and Sense and Sensibility are very similar. In a way, Emma is also very similar. Persuasion (my very-closely-second fave) is a bit different (as well as shorter), and I'd recommend it highly. Mansfield Park (where the name Mrs. Norris comes from in HP!) is okay, but honestly, I got really mad when I read it. Perhaps that's the mark of a really good book - one that gets you so involved that when the characters do something stupid, you just want to throttle them - and I admit, I HAD to finish it to find out what happened, but I'm not sure if I can say I liked it. Or, more precisely, if I liked reading it. ;) So! Read Persuasion - you'll love it. Read Mansfield Park to get a little insight into what J.K. Rowling pictures Filch's cat to be like (it's really funny once you associate the two), and then, if you decide you love Austen and don't care if her books are very similar, read S&S and Emma. Just my opinions, I make no guarantees! ;) Jen From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Apr 10 20:41:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 16:41:00 -0400 Subject: 7 books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1027 From: davehoz Subject: Re: 7 books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1024] Re: 7 books Date: 4/10/00 4:41 pm (ET) Well, they're pretty different plot-wise. It's probably too OT to discuss them in detail here, but I recommend them all, especially _Emma_, _Northanger Abby_, and _Mansfield Park_. Thanks for the welcome! -- Dave From pt4ever at yahoo.com Tue Apr 11 00:02:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 20:02:00 -0400 Subject: Winner: HP Trivia Quiz VII Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1028 From: pt4ever Subject: Winner: HP Trivia Quiz VII Date: 4/10/00 8:02 pm (ET) And the winner is...Penny! (plinsenmayer) She's in charge of Quiz VIII. Here are the answers to Quiz VII: 1. "This is magic at its deepest, its most impenetrable." PoA, Albus Dumbledore to Harry, about Harry conjuring up his father's Patronus. However, since most people thought Dumbledore was speaking of Pettigrew's debt to Harry, I accepted that too. 2. "Honestly, if you were any slower, you'd be going backward." CoS, Draco Malfoy to Harry and Ron, who were disguised as Crabbe and Doyle due to the Polyjuice Potion. 3. "Christmas is a time for family." Sorcerer's Stone, Fred Weasley to Percy Weasley about not sitting with the prefects at Christmas feast. 4. "I shouldn't have hit him at the Quidditch match, that's why he's doing this." Sorcerer's Stone, Ron to Harry & Hermione about Draco knowing about Norbert. 5. "D'you think we've got nothing better to do in Potions than listen to Snape?" CoS, Ron to Hermione about the Polyjuice Potion. 6. "I don't remember ever meeting a student whose mind was so hopelessly mundane." PoA, Professor Trelawney to Hermione about Hermione's lack of skill at Divination. Take it away, Penny! :) -- JoAnna From thefly_gr at yahoo.com Tue Apr 11 09:16:00 2000 From: thefly_gr at yahoo.com (thefly_gr at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 05:16:00 -0400 Subject: 7 books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1029 From: thefly_gr Subject: Re: 7 books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1027] Re: 7 books Date: 4/11/00 5:16 am (ET) I think we have to to have much more than seven books,in the universe JKR created there are so many stories to be told, maybe after Harry there will be other heroes smaller or bigger, or we could have books about other aspects of non-muggle life, what about love stories or war stories or little kids stories, rich and poor witches stories it just can go on and on! Maybe it's gonna last that long that other writers will be permitted to write their stories based on JKR universe! For me it's a neverending saga, when i read the first hp books everynight i went to sleep i stayed up ploting and thinking stories around the story. Regarding the movie what i wanna see most is the interior of the school and a live-action quidditch match!I really hope they make the movie the best it can be and not a non script all efects washout like the phantom menace.I have to say something on phantom menace now that it came up, How is it possible when so many talented people worked really hard to forget the story and have a soulless end product? I just don't get hollywood sometimes and although i want to a movie out of HP i will bacome violent if it's not good. I will finish with this: Watching the quiz i decided to read the books one more time, this will give me something to do until book 4 comes out. When does it come out anyway? From jen_lorin at yahoo.com Tue Apr 11 15:59:00 2000 From: jen_lorin at yahoo.com (jen_lorin at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:59:00 -0400 Subject: date for book 4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1030 From: jen_lorin Subject: date for book 4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1029] Re: 7 books Date: 4/11/00 11:59 am (ET) My aunt actually just sent me a flyer. She lives in California, so this is PST-- I'm not sure how it corresponds to other time zones. It says that Harry Potter and the Doomspell Tournament will be available at 12:01 a.m. on July 8th, and that it will go on sale the same day all over the world... From lisavision at yahoo.com Tue Apr 11 19:34:00 2000 From: lisavision at yahoo.com (lisavision at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:34:00 -0400 Subject: Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1031 From: lisavision Subject: Lily Potter Date: 4/11/00 3:34 pm (ET) hi I just wanted to ask a quick question - was Lily Potter (harrys mum) at hogwarts? or did she just marry James after he finished there? because no one ever seems to mention Lily at hogwarts, like they always talk about James. thanks Lisa From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 11 19:50:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 15:50:00 -0400 Subject: Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1032 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1031] Lily Potter Date: 4/11/00 3:50 pm (ET) Hi, lisavision (like your name, BTW). Yes, she did go to Hogwarts. I'm not sure which book it was, but Hagrid talks about them to Harry, mentioning that they were Head Boy and Girl. I think it may have been Sorcerer's Stone. From norevoli at yahoo.com Tue Apr 11 23:53:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 19:53:00 -0400 Subject: Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1033 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1032] Re: Lily Potter Date: 4/11/00 7:53 pm (ET) yes you're probably right!! what i want to know is if Lily was in Gryffindor toO? was she?? ARe you allowed to have a head boy and girl in the same house?... speaking of Lily I'm very excited to learn more about her family, her parents and all... the way Aunt Petunia puts it they seemed very supportive of her... actually come to think of it i'm interested in James side too, the whole family tree! actually come to think of it i want to meet Ron's older brother's... I want to know what their personality is like.. actually.. .i think i should shut up now... enuff jumping about for meeh!!! From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 02:11:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:11:00 -0400 Subject: Club Description Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1034 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Club Description Date: 4/11/00 10:11 pm (ET) Hi: Well, I've taken over as "founder" for not even a week and I already want to exercise power! Just kidding. I am thinking back though to our discussions re: Mr. Beckhorn and the possibility of making a slight revision to our club description to clarify that this board is intended to be a forum for adult *fans* of the HP books. I have no intention of just making this change without some feedback from our members though. If enough people think this is a bad idea for whatever reason, I'll be happy to just drop the whole idea. I don't intend for this change to in any way prevent or discourage anyone from criticizing the books (or otherwise inhibit the free speech & stimulating discourse we've had so far). I just think it puts potential members (people who visit the boards to see what it's about) on notice that we *are* fans (and are not a group devoted to discussing how to ban the books for example). I suppose it can be argued that it is self-evident that we are fans of the HP series or that it can quickly be gleaned that we are fans simply by reading the last 30-40 messages. But, I still think it could be a good idea, and I will look forward to hearing your thoughts. I'd rather not tie up the boards with this topic more than necessary (although you should feel free to post to the group if you want. <g>). You can also email me privately with your support or dissent at linsenma at hic.net. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 02:13:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:13:00 -0400 Subject: New Quiz Tomorrow Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1035 From: plinsenmayer Subject: New Quiz Tomorrow Date: 4/11/00 10:13 pm (ET) Hi everyone: I was extraordinarily busy today and didn't have time to compose the next HP Trivia Quiz until tonight. Given the late time (and consequent unfairness to those in the earlier time zones), I will post the questions in the morning. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 02:25:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:25:00 -0400 Subject: Winner: HP Trivia Quiz VII Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1036 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Winner: HP Trivia Quiz VII Reply To: [Yahoo! #1028] Winner: HP Trivia Quiz VII Date: 4/11/00 10:25 pm (ET) Hi JoAnna: <1. "This is magic at its deepest, its most impenetrable." PoA, Albus Dumbledore to Harry, about Harry conjuring up his father's Patronus. However, since most people thought Dumbledore was speaking of Pettigrew's debt to Harry, I accepted that too.> Not to quibble, but I still stand by my interpretation that the quote was referring to Harry's dismay at Dumbledore telling him that Pettigrew was in his debt. Harry has just exclaimed that he doesn't want a bond with Pettigrew since he betrayed Harry's parents, and Dumbledore says "This is magic at its deepest, its most impenetrable, Harry. But trust me . . . the time may come when you will be very glad you saved Pettigrew's life." Penny From quidditchfan at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 02:42:00 2000 From: quidditchfan at yahoo.com (quidditchfan at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 22:42:00 -0400 Subject: Winner: HP Trivia Quiz VII Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1037 From: quidditchfan Subject: Re: Winner: HP Trivia Quiz VII Reply To: [Yahoo! #1036] Re: Winner: HP Trivia Quiz VII Date: 4/11/00 10:42 pm (ET) That is also the way I interpreted that passage, Penny. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 03:38:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 23:38:00 -0400 Subject: Winner: HP Trivia Quiz VII Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1038 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Winner: HP Trivia Quiz VII Reply To: [Yahoo! #1037] Re: Winner: HP Trivia Quiz VII Date: 4/11/00 11:38 pm (ET) *blush* My fault...I just checked POA and you're right. Next time I should read the section more closely... :) -- JoAnna From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 05:15:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 01:15:00 -0400 Subject: Mrs. Norris... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1039 From: jenP_97 Subject: Mrs. Norris... Date: 4/12/00 1:15 am (ET) Going back to our little conversation earlier about Jane Austen, I've been skimming through _Mansfield Park_ to see if I can "conjure" (whew, that was a bad one) up some descriptions of Austen's Mrs. Norris that may shed some light on Rowling's character (feline, though she may be) of the same name. Here's what I've found so far. "As far as walking, talking, and contriving reached, she was thoroughly benevolent, and nobody knew better how to dictate liberality to others; but her love of money was equal to her love of directing, and she knew quite as well how to save her own as to spend that of her friends." "...and at Northampton was met by Mrs. Norris, who thus regaled in the credit of being foremost to welcome her, and in the importance of leading her into the others, and recommending her to their kindness." "...she could hardly be said to show any sign of alarm; but she was vexed by the manner of his return. It had left her nothing to do. Instead of being sent for out of the room, and seeing him first, and having to spread the happy news through the house, Sir Thomas, with a very reasonable dependence, perhaps, on the nerves of his wife and children, had sought no confidant but the butler, and had been following him almost instantaneously into the drawing-room. Mrs. Norris felt herself defrauded of an office on which she had always depended, whether his arrival or his death were to be the thing unfolded; and was now trying to be in a bustle without having anything to bustle about, and labouring to be important where nothing was wanted but tranquillity and silence." I tried looking through to find another, but it's late and my eyes are tired. Besides, I'm sure it's not *that* fascinating. ;) Suffice it to say that Austen's Mrs. Norris is a meddling busy-body who just loves to get the credit for things without actually having to spend any time/money/effort on them. She also considers herself the most important member of the house, and knows for sure that nothing would ever be done right if she weren't there to direct everything (of course, without doing it herself). Jen From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 13:45:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 09:45:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz (New) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1040 From: plinsenmayer Subject: HP Trivia Quiz (New) Date: 4/12/00 9:45 am (ET) Hi all: Here's the next HP Trivia Quiz (I lost track of what number we are on now -- VII??). Rules: same as always -- honor system (don't check your books); name the speaker, to whom they were speaking and the book. Email answers to me at linsenma at hic.net 1. "We don't want to be found here." 2. "The resemblance between you is uncanny." 3. "Well, well, well, we *are* in trouble." 4. "But everyone knows *that*." 5. "You are -- truly your father's son, Harry." I included #5, even though it should be extremely easy, because it's one of my top 10 favorite HP quotes. <g> Penny From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 18:20:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:20:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz (New) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1041 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz (New) Reply To: [Yahoo! #1040] HP Trivia Quiz (New) Date: 4/12/00 2:20 pm (ET) That's it. I've decided that I can't live with myself if I don't know the answers (for sure, that is) to these quizzes anymore (and man! the one quiz I feel confident enough to answer, I get into a tie and am not picked! shoot...), so I'm just going to have to read these books all over again, and plan MY quiz. By the way, if I ever get my chance, you guy's had better watch out. I'm taking my quotes from the British versions. ;) Jen From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 18:24:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 14:24:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1042 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Reply To: [Yahoo! #1041] Re: HP Trivia Quiz (New) Date: 4/12/00 2:24 pm (ET) Okay, I've been teaching remedial English for too long. Let me just apologize now for committing one of my biggest pet peeves... using an apostrophe for a plural. Please substitute the word "guys" for "guy's" up there, please. Also, if I have offended any of the ladies, I apologize for using the term "guys" when it's not appropriate. I get a lot of complaints, but it just slips out sometimes. (I know I may be irritating some of you for being so picky, but this *is* a public forum, after all, and I am very embarrassed to be a writing instructor who made a mistake like that) Jen (I even previewed it! ack!) From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 19:13:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:13:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1043 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Reply To: [Yahoo! #1042] Re: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Date: 4/12/00 3:13 pm (ET) <Let me just apologize now for committing one of my biggest pet peeves... using an apostrophe for a plural. Please substitute the word "guys" for "guy's" up there, please.> LOL! That's one of my biggest pet peeves too! Nobody else seems to understand how irritating 1990's is, but I bet you do Jen. Okay, noone has made even a guess on my Trivia Quiz so far. Did I make it too hard? #5 at least is easy for sure. Penny (I own the Brit versions too Jen) From mewilliamson at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 19:19:00 2000 From: mewilliamson at yahoo.com (mewilliamson at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:19:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1044 From: mewilliamson Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Reply To: [Yahoo! #1043] Re: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Date: 4/12/00 3:19 pm (ET) I only know two (number 5 is one of them) so I'm not entering this one Meg From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 19:47:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 15:47:00 -0400 Subject: Family Circus comic Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1045 From: sarvalsha Subject: Family Circus comic Date: 4/12/00 3:47 pm (ET) Did anyone else see the Family Circus comic on Sunday? It said: It's apparent you're a parent . . . when your contribution to a book discussion is: 'But this was no problem for Harry Potter'. Well personally I am not a parent but my conversations are still riddled with HP references. But cute comic anyway. From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 20:12:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:12:00 -0400 Subject: Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1046 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1033] Re: Lily Potter Date: 4/12/00 4:12 pm (ET) <what i want to know is if Lily was in Gryffindor toO? was she??> Actually, I'm not even sure if James was in Gryffindor; I can't remember any passages specifying the house of either of Harry's parents. Can anyone else remember any? Or are we just assuming James was a Gryffindor because of all the comparisons between him and Harry? <ARe you allowed to have a head boy and girl in the same house?...> To me, that sounds like something they may try to avoid, even if there was no specific rule against it. But that could be solved for James and Lily if they were from different years. Percy and Penelope were a year apart, as are Harry and either Ginny or Cho Chang. Melanie From sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 20:23:00 2000 From: sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com (sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:23:00 -0400 Subject: Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1047 From: sweetandsour6453 Subject: Re: Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1046] Re: Lily Potter Date: 4/12/00 4:23 pm (ET) I'm not totally sure but i thought somewhere it said that James Potter was a Gryffindor. But it may be just me thinking that if Harry was and how much he and his father seem alike he was too, I'm going to dig through my books and see if i can find anything. I need to reread them anyway...its obvious since i've only know 2 or 3 answers on every quiz so far! Kim From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 20:26:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 16:26:00 -0400 Subject: Family Circus comic Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1048 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Family Circus comic Reply To: [Yahoo! #1045] Family Circus comic Date: 4/12/00 4:26 pm (ET) <Well personally I am not a parent but my conversations are still riddled with HP references. But cute comic anyway.> I'm afraid I missed it. But maybe it's still in the recycle bin. I'll look through it later. I'm also not a parent, but keep referring to Harry Potter (or refraining from it, if I know the other person hasn't read the books). In fact, one day I was at work, listening to a mother indulge in some parental boasting, about her 10-year-old math genius son. I jokingly asked if she'd checked into MIT for him yet. She said, "No, but I should. He's a wizard." I laughed and said, "Then you should be getting an owl from Hogwarts pretty soon." I figured, with a child that age, she'd definitely get the reference. But she didn't know what I was talking about. So, I guess not all parents know HP yet. Melanie From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 21:08:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:08:00 -0400 Subject: Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1049 From: sarvalsha Subject: Re: Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1047] Re: Lily Potter Date: 4/12/00 5:08 pm (ET) I guess like most people I assumed that James and Lily were in Gryffindor. Not only because Harry is but also because that's the only house we really know anything about. That started me thinking about something else I've been wondering about: whether the teachers are heads of the houses which they were in when they were in school. For example, Professor McGonagall is head of Gryffindor because she was in Gryffindor as a student. And the same for Snape (he fits the Slytherin profile so well!). But then it occurred to me that it might not work that way and that there might be an explanation for why Snape hates James and friends so much. There are 5 new male students each year, right? Who live in the same dorm, etc. What if James, Sirius, Remus, and Peter were not only at school with Snape but in the same year and house? What if Snape hates them all because he was the only one who was excluded from the group? Does that make sense? Margaret From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 21:18:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 17:18:00 -0400 Subject: For the romantics on this list Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1050 From: melaniem68 Subject: For the romantics on this list Date: 4/12/00 5:18 pm (ET) A few weeks ago, several of us went to the Unofficial Harry Potter Fan Club web site, and used the Sorting Hat to find out what houses we belong to. That site also has "Harry's Love Test," where you can plug in two people's names, (in or out of the HP books) and find out how compatible they are. It gives a percentage for each "couple," then has a key below to translate the number back into English. I had a slow day at work yesterday, and plugged in several likely and not-so-likely pairs. I just thought some of you might get a kick out of some of the results. Here are how the most popular potential couples did: Harry Potter + Hermione Granger = 66% (puppy love) Ron Weasley + Hermione Granger = 86.5% (true love) Harry Potter + Ginny Weasley = 77.5% (love is in the air) Harry Potter + Cho Chang = 39.5% (just friends) Here are some pairs who scored in the 90s, meaning "red hot romance": Percy Weasley & Penelope Clearwater (94%) George Weasley & Hermione Granger (95%) and the top scorers (believe it or not): Draco Malfoy & Ginny Weasley (97.5%) finally (this should surprise no one): Gilderoy Lockhart + Gilderoy Lockhart = 93% Gilderoy Lockhart + The Daily Prophet = 93% And, if Hermione and Ginny dump Ron and Harry for their "red hot romances", Harry and Ron should travel to San Francisco when they grow up. The can find the same with two of the Charmed Ones: Harry Potter + Phoebe Haliwell = 96.5% Ron Weasley + Prue Haliwell = 98% If any of you would like to plug in some pairs I haven't mentioned, go to www.geocities.com/harrypotterfans/lovetest.html Let me know what you come up with. Melanie From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 22:10:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 18:10:00 -0400 Subject: Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1051 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1049] Re: Lily Potter Date: 4/12/00 6:10 pm (ET) Hi: I think I too assumed that James & Lily were most likely Gryffindors. Based especially on what we know about James and his character, I would be surprised if he were not a Gryffindor. Mr. & Mrs. Weasley were both in Gryffindor. I wonder if they are too much older than the Potters would have been or if they might have overlapped at Hogwarts to some extent? I suspect they are too much older since, as we've discussed before, Bill & Charlie Weasley must be in their early to mid-20s when Ron & Harry are 11-13. Who *are* the heads of Hufflepuff & Ravenclaw houses? I don't think we know, do we? What are your guesses? Since the DADA professor has such high turnover, maybe he/she doesn't have a house? Flitwick might be a good Hufflepuff. IMO, McGonagall *seems* the most intellectual of all the professors from what we know, but she can't be head of Gryffindor & Ravenclaw. Margaret -- That's quite an interesting theory about Snape & the 4-some. It's certainly possible. But, then again, I'm not so sure it's written in stone that it's exactly 5 boys in each house each year. I would bet the numbers vary somewhat. Otherwise, the Sorting Hat really couldn't divide everyone up according to personality -- there would have to be some that would be sorted just to make the numbers turn out right. I think it's most likely that James was a Gryffindor (and Sirius & Lupin for sure -- but what about Pettigrew? Wonder if he might have been in another house?). Snape seems like the Slytherin profile for sure. I think this is from another HP listserve, but do we even know if there are 5 girls in Gryffindor for Hermione's year? There's Hermione, Lavender Brown, Pavarti Patil. Are there 2 other girls in Gryffindor for that year? Pavarti has a twin, but we know nothing about her and if she ended up in the same house or not. I really need new hobbies . . . . Penny From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 23:00:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:00:00 -0400 Subject: Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1052 From: sarvalsha Subject: Re: Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1051] Re: Lily Potter Date: 4/12/00 7:00 pm (ET) Why? This seems like a perfectly good hobby to me. You could be out getting drunk or gambling the house away. (Good retort to spouses and others who complain about the time, effort, etc.) Is anyone else having a problem with the advertisements for HP4? My ebay name is recoveringpackrat. I took that because alcoholics who quit drinking are called recovering alcoholics the rest of their lives and I have a similar relationship to collecting. I have tried to be good about Harry but I have to admit that I am being tempted. Every time I go near a bookstore, there are posters or displays. I was in Borders last night and I was trying to figure out how I could make off with the display at the cashier's desk. If there hadn't been so much people . . . Margaret From norevoli at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 23:08:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:08:00 -0400 Subject: For the romantics on this list Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1053 From: norevoli Subject: Re: For the romantics on this list Reply To: [Yahoo! #1050] For the romantics on this list Date: 4/12/00 7:08 pm (ET) Guess who plugged in herself and Ron Weasley and got 99%... (when I used my real name it turns out to be 97.5% though) ...hey, it wouldn't be so bad... he's a year older than me afterall ;) (who needs to go and get herself...no not me...) Norevoli From norevoli at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 23:22:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 19:22:00 -0400 Subject: Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1054 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1051] Re: Lily Potter Date: 4/12/00 7:22 pm (ET) Do you think that somewhere in this up and coming 700+ HP there will be something about us finally meeting Bill and Charlie? in the same site with the Love Test the head of house for hufflepuff in Prof. Sprout (they don't say where they found that info) and they guessed that Flitwick was head of house for Ravenclaw. You know... for some reason I specifically remember that in Book One that someone mentioned that his mum and dad were in Gryffindor...oh... no it was Ron who said that.... my mistake... From itm55 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 13 00:42:00 2000 From: itm55 at yahoo.com (itm55 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:42:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1055 From: itm55 Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Reply To: [Yahoo! #1043] Re: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Date: 4/12/00 8:42 pm (ET) Just want to ask a question...Can you get the Brit versions of the books at local bookstores, or do you have to send away for them? Thanks. From m4mitchell at yahoo.com Thu Apr 13 01:06:00 2000 From: m4mitchell at yahoo.com (m4mitchell at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:06:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1056 From: m4mitchell Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Reply To: [Yahoo! #1055] Re: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Date: 4/12/00 9:06 pm (ET) I know you can get the British editions in Canada, but other then that you'd have to order them From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Thu Apr 13 01:19:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:19:00 -0400 Subject: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1057 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Reply To: [Yahoo! #1055] Re: HP Trivia Quiz (New) (gram/punct.) Date: 4/12/00 9:19 pm (ET) You can buy the British versions through amazon.co.uk or you can bid on them through ebay auctions. I got mine on ebay. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Thu Apr 13 01:24:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 21:24:00 -0400 Subject: Answers to Today's Quiz Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1058 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Answers to Today's Quiz Date: 4/12/00 9:24 pm (ET) Hi everyone: Margaret (Sarvalsha) has won today's quiz. She was one of 2 participants, so she & I were wondering if maybe we should cut back to one Quiz per week or something along those lines. We weren't sure if people weren't interested at all anymore or if they had just had enough of the quizzes for awhile. Thoughts please?? Here are the correct answers: 1. "We don't want to be found here." Ron to Harry & Hermione (Chamber of Secrets) -- re: when they saw Mrs. Norris 2. "The resemblance between you is uncanny." Professor Snape to Harry (POA) -- re: Harry's likeness with his father, James Potter 3. "Well, well, well, we *are* in trouble." Filch to Harry & Hermione (Sorcerer's Stone) -- when they forgot the invisibility cloak after sending Norbert away with Charlie's friends 4. "But everyone knows *that.* Hermione to Professor Trelawney (POA) -- re: Trelawney's "prediction" that Harry has a deadly enemy 5. "You are -- truly your father's son." Sirius Black to Harry (POA) -- truly one of my favorite quotes!!! Penny From ggbickerson at yahoo.com Thu Apr 13 02:23:00 2000 From: ggbickerson at yahoo.com (ggbickerson at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:23:00 -0400 Subject: Hello Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1059 From: ggbickerson Subject: Hello Date: 4/12/00 10:23 pm (ET) I'm a newbie! I found Harry Potter when I picked up the book on the teacher's desk in a class I was substituting for. I read some pages in the middle of the first book and I was HOOKED! Immediately I put on them all on my Christmas list! I have read the first two already and am working on # 3 now! I love reading them and with my teaching and being with kids, I like to see what they're reading. I don't know what they love about them really, but it just could be the same things I do! I love the mystery, the characters (the likeable and the unlikable ones!), the fantasy of being able to escape to Hogwarts where things can be so magical! My favorite wish is to have an Invisibility Cloak! That would be soo neat! I have a son who is only 8 months old and I am going to start back with the first book and read them to him! (I can't wait to re-read the old ones and I'm dying for the new one to come out!) I got to surfing on the Yahoo club board and found this site. I hope to see much more of Harry Potter lovers! Michelle From cj_bsm at yahoo.com Thu Apr 13 02:50:00 2000 From: cj_bsm at yahoo.com (cj_bsm at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 22:50:00 -0400 Subject: Answers to Today's Quiz Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1060 From: cj_bsm Subject: Re: Answers to Today's Quiz Reply To: [Yahoo! #1058] Answers to Today's Quiz Date: 4/12/00 10:50 pm (ET) I really enjoy reading the trivia questions, but I can only get 1 or 2 answers so I don't respond. I think a 1x per week would be good. It would give us all time to read the books a bit more and have a fighting chance. cj From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 13 11:04:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 07:04:00 -0400 Subject: Answers to Today's Quiz Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1061 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Answers to Today's Quiz Reply To: [Yahoo! #1058] Answers to Today's Quiz Date: 4/13/00 7:04 am (ET) They don't even necessarily need to be quizzes. I just started them to do something different and keep our interest from flagging until July 9th - by which time we'll all have finished with Doomspell! (Just joking, but there's many a truth in jest...) There are lots of things we could do. Challenge each other to write a Harry Potter Short Story and post them, write a report card for the characters, "If I was Harry Potter (Ron, Hermione, Dumbledore, etc.) for a day, I would...and so on. Then the "quizmaster" or "teacher for the day" could randomly pick someone to come up with the next idea by emailing them. Just a few thoughts. (My parents were teachers for over 30 years - can you tell?) From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Thu Apr 13 18:21:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 14:21:00 -0400 Subject: CHARMS POP QUIZ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1062 From: sarvalsha Subject: CHARMS POP QUIZ Date: 4/13/00 2:21 pm (ET) In the interest of doing something a little different, the new quiz will cover charms (or is it spells . . . is there a difference?) You must give the result of using the following word(s). 1. Alohomora 2. Dissendium 3. Impervious 4. Locomotor Mortis 5. Wingardium Leviosa Bonus question: Peskipiksi Pesternomi You will have two days to complete the quiz. Day one is for NO BOOKS; day two will be open book. The first one with the right answers will be the winner and will be responsible for our next activity. Please email me at mmcnie at mmsa.com with your answers. Margaret From sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 13 20:20:00 2000 From: sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com (sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:20:00 -0400 Subject: New Contests Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1063 From: sweetandsour6453 Subject: New Contests Reply To: [Yahoo! #1062] CHARMS POP QUIZ Date: 4/13/00 4:20 pm (ET) I like the idea of doing other things besides just quizzes. (not that they aren't fun) i wanted to start a little essay thing, just a question from the books that you can answer and then whoever writes the prompt chooses what they think is the best one. Ok I'm going to start one, and if anyone is interested, email the answers to Kimmy_Girl_2000 at hotmail.com Harry Potter Essay Contest I There has been some foreshadowing that Harry and Cho-Chang may be developing crushes on each other. Do u think they should be together? Or if not who do u think would be good for Harry? Why? OR you can answer this (u can do both) Would you like to see the return of Sirius Black in upcoming books? what roles would you like to see him play? (exmp. Would u like to see him becoming a Hogwarts teacher, or Harry Going to Live with him, ETC.) explain your idea. I'll give three days on this, so the winner will be chosen around 10 PM Eastern Time Sunday Night, and announced Monday morning. Hope you send in entrys! Kim From sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 13 20:26:00 2000 From: sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com (sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:26:00 -0400 Subject: 4 got to mention... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1064 From: sweetandsour6453 Subject: 4 got to mention... Date: 4/13/00 4:26 pm (ET) I tried the Love Test. O only had time for a few names but the BIG SUPRISE was Hermoine Granger and Lord Voldemort got a 95%!!!!!! Also Harry and Lavender got a 77% and Hermoine and Percy got 86. From davehoz at yahoo.com Thu Apr 13 20:45:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 16:45:00 -0400 Subject: 4 got to mention... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1065 From: davehoz Subject: Re: 4 got to mention... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1064] 4 got to mention... Date: 4/13/00 4:45 pm (ET) I'm pretty sure the "Love Test" employs a simple random number generator and is in no way "scientific".... From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 13 21:15:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 17:15:00 -0400 Subject: 4 got to mention... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1066 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: 4 got to mention... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1065] Re: 4 got to mention... Date: 4/13/00 5:15 pm (ET) <I'm pretty sure the "Love Test" employs a simple random number generator and is in no way scientific"> When you plug in the same names again, you get the same score. So I think it somehow uses the letters of the names to generate the score, not unlike the pencil/paper "love tests" I did in high school. True, it's no more "scientific" than a random generator, but it's still fun to see some of the results. BTW, if you don't like the first result, you can always try plugging in the name in different forms. I didn't try that this time, but did all the time as a teen. For example, if "Ron Weasley" doesn't tell you what you want to hear, try "Ronald Weasley," then "Ron," then "Ronald," etc. Melanie From norevoli at yahoo.com Fri Apr 14 21:46:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 17:46:00 -0400 Subject: Casting and Ghosts. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1067 From: norevoli Subject: Casting and Ghosts. Date: 4/14/00 5:46 pm (ET) hey... I have just one "petite" question (eek1! french).. anyway... it has been said somewhere that we've met a character called the gray lady... when did we meet her? She's suppose to be the Ravenclaw ghost. Oh... one more... I read JKR's Barnes and Nobles interview and she mentions seeing a Harry look alike while she was in Belfast... Nialls was the kid's name I think... do guys no whether they are considering him to play Harry??? From pt4ever at yahoo.com Fri Apr 14 22:20:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 18:20:00 -0400 Subject: Casting and Ghosts. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1068 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Casting and Ghosts. Reply To: [Yahoo! #1067] Casting and Ghosts. Date: 4/14/00 6:20 pm (ET) >>>> hey... I have just one "petite" question (eek1! french).. anyway... it has been said somewhere that we've met a character called the gray lady... when did we meet her? She's suppose to be the Ravenclaw ghost. >>>> According to a JKR interview I read (can't remember where...), we met the Grey Lady in "Sorcerer's Stone," when Harry and the others were waiting to be sorted, but we didn't know that we met her. :) I believe she also said that we would "officially" meet the Grey Lady in later books. -- JoAnna From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Sat Apr 15 01:29:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 21:29:00 -0400 Subject: Charms Pop Quiz Answers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1069 From: sarvalsha Subject: Charms Pop Quiz Answers Date: 4/14/00 9:29 pm (ET) Here are the answers to the Charms Pop Quiz: 1. Alohomora - opens locked doors (Hermione used this a number of times). 2. Dissendium - opens the entrance to the passageway to Honeydukes (the hump-backed, one eyed witch statue). 3. Impervious - repels water (Hermione used it during a Quidditch match to keep the rain off Harry's glasses). 4. Locomotor Mortis - leg locking spell (Draco practiced it on Neville). 5. Wingardium Leviosa - levitating spell (they studied it in class, then Ron used it to knock out the troll). Bonus question: Peskipiksi Pesternomi - Lockhart used this to try to control the pixies but it didn't work. Voice lady got all the answers right and in a very short time so it will up to her to come up with a new activity. Margaret From sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 15 14:13:00 2000 From: sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com (sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 10:13:00 -0400 Subject: !?!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1070 From: sweetandsour6453 Subject: !?!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1069] Charms Pop Quiz Answers Date: 4/15/00 10:13 am (ET) Nobody has answered the essay contest??? Do you guys not like the idea? that's ok if you don't! Just an idea! From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 15 15:34:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:34:00 -0400 Subject: Charms Pop Quiz Answers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1071 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Charms Pop Quiz Answers Reply To: [Yahoo! #1069] Charms Pop Quiz Answers Date: 4/15/00 11:34 am (ET) Cool! I have an idea germinating, but I still need to think about it a bit more. I'll post back in a day or two once it's finalized. It's a bit different from what we've been doing up to this point. And I think you'll all enjoy it... From arawa_99 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 15 18:38:00 2000 From: arawa_99 at yahoo.com (arawa_99 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 14:38:00 -0400 Subject: Coat of Arms Inscription Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1072 From: arawa_99 Subject: Coat of Arms Inscription Date: 4/15/00 2:38 pm (ET) Am I missing something? I only just noticed the coat of arms in my copy of "Prisoner" this morning - does anyone know what the inscription means? Just cirious - my two years of Latin are WAY too rusty to give it a try...plus I guess I'm just lazy... From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Sat Apr 15 20:41:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 16:41:00 -0400 Subject: Coat of Arms Inscription Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1073 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: Coat of Arms Inscription Reply To: [Yahoo! #1072] Coat of Arms Inscription Date: 4/15/00 4:41 pm (ET) This has actually already been covered. It translates either : "Never tickle a sleeping dragon" or "Never provoke a sleeping dragon". The general opinion was that "Never tickle a sleeping dragon" has more appeal. From arawa_99 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 15 21:11:00 2000 From: arawa_99 at yahoo.com (arawa_99 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 17:11:00 -0400 Subject: Coat of Arms Inscription Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1074 From: arawa_99 Subject: Re: Coat of Arms Inscription Reply To: [Yahoo! #1073] Re: Coat of Arms Inscription Date: 4/15/00 5:11 pm (ET) Thank you - and 150 lines to me I Must Read Prior Posts Before Asking Questions...I Must Read Prior PostI Must I Must Read Prior Posts Before Asking Questions...Read Prior Posts Before Asking Questions..I Must Read Prior Posts Before Asking Questions....s Before Asking Questions...I Must Read Prior Posts Before Asking Questions...I Must Read Prior Posts Before Asking Questions... Well, you get the idea.... From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 15 22:55:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 18:55:00 -0400 Subject: Coat of Arms Inscription Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1075 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Coat of Arms Inscription Reply To: [Yahoo! #1074] Re: Coat of Arms Inscription Date: 4/15/00 6:55 pm (ET) You're so silly. From christineoswell at yahoo.com Sun Apr 16 05:01:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 01:01:00 -0400 Subject: Other kiddie books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1076 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: Other kiddie books Reply To: [Yahoo! #849] Re: Other kiddie books Date: 4/16/00 1:01 am (ET) Hi all! I'm new here, joined up a few days ago. I was planning on reading up on all the old posts before posting anything myself (I've managed to get through 850 messages in 3 days! only 250 more to go...). Anyway, I just HAD to respond to this one. I LOVED the book Bridge to Terabithia! And everyone I know who read the book doesn't remember anything about it. I don't remember too much about it other than the fact that it made me cry and smile at the same time. Unfortunately it is out of print (I tried looking for it a while ago). I haven't tried the library yet... Christine (who will introduce herself properly after reading the next 250 messages) From christineoswell at yahoo.com Sun Apr 16 07:05:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 03:05:00 -0400 Subject: My Introduction Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1077 From: christineoswell Subject: My Introduction Date: 4/16/00 3:05 am (ET) Well, I just finished reading all the posts, so I thought I would take a few minutes to introduce myself before I drag my weary butt to bed. My name is Christine, I'm 26, I live in Vancouver, I have 2 boys (cameron turned 2 in Jan, Kyle will be 8 months next week), and currently I stay home with them. I had heard a bit about Harry Potter from Rosie and the odd magazine article I glanced at, but didn't REALLY know what they were about. My sister bought me the first one for Christmas, and that was it, I was hooked. I can't wait to read them to my boys. I heard about this club from my good friend Michelle - ggbickerson (Hi Michelle!!), and had to check it out. Going through and reading all the old posts, I thought of things I wanted to add, but thought I would wait to see if they were mentioned by others, Typically, now I can't remember most of what I wanted to say. One thing though, about the puppy love in the next book... Someone mentioned that because the characters are supposed to get involved with the wrong people that maybe it could be due to a spell. Do you think that maybe Ginny might do a spell or charm to make Harry notice her and it goes awry? just a thought. Well, maybe after a good nights sleep I might remember the other things I wanted to mention (not that I really know what a good nights sleep is these days... ) :o) christine From lisavision at yahoo.com Sun Apr 16 19:03:00 2000 From: lisavision at yahoo.com (lisavision at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 15:03:00 -0400 Subject: Coat of Arms Inscription Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1078 From: lisavision Subject: Re: Coat of Arms Inscription Reply To: [Yahoo! #1074] Re: Coat of Arms Inscription Date: 4/16/00 3:03 pm (ET) hi I'm sorry but I dont remember covering the discussion about the inscription. how do you know it means that? I've looked back in the messages but cant find anything about it. thanks Lisa From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Sun Apr 16 19:57:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 15:57:00 -0400 Subject: Coat of Arms Inscription Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1079 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: Coat of Arms Inscription Reply To: [Yahoo! #1078] Re: Coat of Arms Inscription Date: 4/16/00 3:57 pm (ET) It's way back there: check msg #380, 381, and some others around there. From lisavision at yahoo.com Sun Apr 16 21:54:00 2000 From: lisavision at yahoo.com (lisavision at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 17:54:00 -0400 Subject: Mistake in HP?? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1080 From: lisavision Subject: Mistake in HP?? Date: 4/16/00 5:54 pm (ET) when sirius black told harry he got him the firebolt, he said his vault was number 711, next door to harrys. but harrys was not 713! 713 was where the philosophers stone was.... we dont know what number harrys vault is. and it wasnt 712, because they had to make a long journey from the philosophers stone vault to harrys vault. can anyone explain this? Lisa From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sun Apr 16 23:42:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2000 19:42:00 -0400 Subject: Mistake in HP?? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1081 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Mistake in HP?? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1080] Mistake in HP?? Date: 4/16/00 7:42 pm (ET) Hi: Actually Lisa -- Black only said that he used Harry's name but arranged that the gold be taken from his (Black's) vault -- 711. He doesn't mention anything about his vault being next to Harry's vault. What was (still is) somewhat confusing to me was how Gringotts was satisfied that Harry was entitled to gold from Black's vault. On another HP listserve, people offered up various suggestions: maybe Harry was listed on Black's vault since Black was his guardian, or maybe Black included a key or password with the order to Gringotts and that was good enough for Gringotts. I also think there must have been an intervening step (between the gold being taken from Vault 711 and the Firebolt arriving at Christmas). Crookshanks took a note to the owlery that instructed Gringotts to remove a certain sum in gold from Vault 711 and the note was signed in Harry's name. Assuming that Harry was listed on the account or that Black provided some sort of key or password, Gringotts took the gold and sent it to _____ (where)? Did Crookshanks intercept the gold that would have gone to Harry and take it to Black, who then sent Crookshanks with another note to Quality Quidditch Supplies? Or, did the gold go directly to Quality Quidditch Supplies, and if so, why did the Firebolt arrive as a Christmas present rather than in ordinary owl post to Harry? So many questions . . . Penny From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 17 12:40:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:40:00 -0400 Subject: New activity!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1082 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: New activity!!! Date: 4/17/00 8:40 am (ET) Okay gang, I've thought about this quite a bit, and I'm ready to continue with a new activity. We all know who our regular posters are, right? Because that will help quite a bit. I'm going to start writing a story, and each of you will continue it. To keep things from getting messy, I will SELECT someone to continue. That person will write the next bit, and then he or she will designate the next storyteller, and so on. (This way, we'll have stuff to post!) So here goes: HOW HAGRID BECAME A HERO Early one bright July morning, Hagrid woke in his hut with the sun streaming through the window. It was a beautiful day. The sun was strong and bright, the dew glistened on his rosebushes, the birds were singing merrily...in fact, it was a perfect Summer's day! And Hagrid couldn't have been more blue. "Ahhh," he sighed, "I miss Harry. And Ron and Hermione, too," he added quickly, feeling bad for almost having forgot them. "Nothing excitin' ever seems to happen durin' the Summer Holidays. Ahhh..." he sighed again. "Well, there's nothing to be gained by moping about," he thought to himself. So, brushing off his bleary eyes - for he'd had quite a bit of mead in the village the night before - he struggled out of bed determined to feel better. As he worked in his garden, gazing in admiration at his summer squash, "They're turning out nicely this year," he heard a great commotion overhead. Craning his neck upwards and shading his eyes from the glare of the sun, he saw something...something HUGE...flying closer and closer. Feeling something close to panic, Hagrid realized that the great shape was coming straight for him! Before he could shake off his stupor, with a great THUD, it landed right in front of him, steaming fire from it's great nostrils. It was Norbert! "Norbert!" Hagrid cried happily, "You've come home to Mummy!" And that's when Norbert began to talk. Now, dragons don't talk the way you or I do, but Hagrid seemed able to understand him anyway. Norbert made such a commotion with his snorting, hissing, growling and grunting that Hagrid had to ask him to repeat himself twice. But finally, Hagrid understood. "Wot's that you say? Bill? Bill Weasley? In trouble? Oh no! I've got to do somethin'!" And I choose darwin_nyc to continue the story. From arawa_99 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 17 15:33:00 2000 From: arawa_99 at yahoo.com (arawa_99 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:33:00 -0400 Subject: New activity!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1083 From: arawa_99 Subject: Re: New activity!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1082] New activity!!! Date: 4/17/00 11:33 am (ET) Love it - count me in!!!! Can't wait for the next installment, Darwin... From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 17 17:14:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:14:00 -0400 Subject: New activity!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1084 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: New activity!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1082] New activity!!! Date: 4/17/00 1:14 pm (ET) Just a quick thought. I have played round robin writing games where the next writer found they couldn't think of what to do next. A couple of times, it has taken months before the next section gets written. For this activity to work well, if you are the assigned writer and you can't decide what to do, say so and give it to another writer. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 17 17:27:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 13:27:00 -0400 Subject: New activity!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1085 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: New activity!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1084] Re: New activity!!! Date: 4/17/00 1:27 pm (ET) Excellent thought. From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 17 18:45:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:45:00 -0400 Subject: New activity!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1086 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: New activity!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1082] New activity!!! Date: 4/17/00 2:45 pm (ET) <To keep things from getting messy, I will SELECT someone to continue. That person will write the next bit, and then he or she will designate the next storyteller, and so on.> Maybe we can find a way to have interested members sign up, and the selections can be made from that list. Or the list can simply go in order. That way, we're not leaving anyone out. For example, we may not think to choose a newbie who hasn't been in the group long enough to become a regular. There may also be lurkers who haven't had much to contribute to the discussions, but would love to participate in some round-robin fanfic. Thoughts on this? Melanie From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 17 18:53:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:53:00 -0400 Subject: New activity!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1087 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: New activity!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1086] Re: New activity!!! Date: 4/17/00 2:53 pm (ET) <<Maybe we can find a way to have interested members sign up, and the selections can be made from that list. Or the list can simply go in order. That way, we're not leaving anyone out.>> Okay then: anyone who is interested in participating in our little storytelling effort, email me at voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com, and I will compose a list and post it. I've spoken to Darwin and I know he's writing tonight, so if you want to join in soon, email me as soon as possible. Excellent suggestion. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 17 20:30:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:30:00 -0400 Subject: New activity!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1088 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: New activity!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1087] Re: New activity!!! Date: 4/17/00 4:30 pm (ET) Allrighty then! We have a short list. At this moment and in this order: voicelady Dariwin_nyc plinsenmayer arawa pet4ever Once again, please email me if you want to join our round robin, and we'll keep adding names to the list. If you're stumped, let the next person on the list know and they will take your place. From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Apr 17 20:33:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:33:00 -0400 Subject: New activity!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1089 From: norevoli Subject: Re: New activity!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1082] New activity!!! Date: 4/17/00 4:33 pm (ET) I know i'm probably being picky and stupid but isn't Norbert with Charlie not with Bill? awww, never mind.... i'm being stoopid!!! From sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 17 20:39:00 2000 From: sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com (sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 16:39:00 -0400 Subject: New activity!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1090 From: sweetandsour6453 Subject: Re: New activity!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1089] Re: New activity!!! Date: 4/17/00 4:39 pm (ET) Norbort is with Charlie, but that's not the biggest deal in the world. Voicelady I want to be in the fanfic but my email isn't working right! Hmph. Or maybe my computer is messed up, my someone put something on the wrong drive and that has made everything slow..but i want to know what happens next ! SO post someone! Kimmy From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 17 21:59:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 17:59:00 -0400 Subject: New activity!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1091 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: New activity!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1090] Re: New activity!!! Date: 4/17/00 5:59 pm (ET) Here's a revised list already: voicelady Dariwin_nyc plinsenmayer arawa pet4ever iago_nyc Skimmel_98 sweetandsour One little extra "rule": Take what's given and go with it. Try to justify what's already been written and try to further the story. There's no need to be clever, and if you can only come up with a simple paragraph, that's okay. And yes, Norbert said that Bill is in trouble. ; ) From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Mon Apr 17 23:36:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:36:00 -0400 Subject: New activity!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1092 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: New activity!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1082] New activity!!! Date: 4/17/00 7:36 pm (ET) But finally, Hagrid understood. "Wot's that you say? Bill? Bill Weasley? In trouble? Oh no! I've got to do somethin'!" Hagrid realized immediately that there was more to this hero business than he'd first imagined. Yes yes, he had to do something, but what? He had so many questions. What kind of trouble was Bill in? And what was Norbert doing with Bill anyway? Last Hagrid knew, his dragon had been staying with *Charlie* Weasley in Romania, but that was long ago, and anyway, Hagrid knew nothing of Romania, though he was fairly certain that there was a type of lettuce named after it. "Norbert!" Hagrid shouted rather impatiently to the hyperactive dragon. "Settle a bit an' tell me what's goin' on! Where's Bill, and 'ow did he go gettin' himself in trouble??" Suddenly, Hagrid noticed a small roll of parchment lying at his feet. He'd been so excited upon his beloved dragon's arrival that he hadn't seen Norbert drop the note when he landed. Hagrid was puzzled - Norbert was a Norwegian Ridgeback, not an owl! What on Earth could be going on here? It occurred to him that, just perhaps, reading the note could give him some insight. Hagrid fumbled with the note for a moment, as it was difficult to unroll such a small piece of parchment with such awfully large fingers. After a second or two, Hagrid had the note opened and began to read. Why, it was from Charlie! "Dear Hagrid," the note began. "The most terrible thing has happened! It all started when Bill got his hands on one of Dad's Muggle artifacts. . ." From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Apr 18 02:37:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:37:00 -0400 Subject: New Activity (Part III) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1093 From: plinsenmayer Subject: New Activity (Part III) Date: 4/17/00 10:37 pm (ET) "Dear Hagrid," the note began. "The most terrible thing has happened! It all started when Bill got his hands on one of Dad's Muggle artifacts, a World War II-vintage typex. A typex was a cipher machine used by the British army and the RAF to encode messages (the Royal Navy apparently didn't trust them until late in the war). Anyway, Bill found it in Mum and Dad's attic last Christmas and thought it'd be a great desktop piece - you know since he's a curse-breaker for Gringotts. Problem is that Bill didn't tell Dad he was taking it or Dad would have told him that he'd enchanted it. Apparently Dad enchanted the typex so that it eavesdrops on conversations and then sends messages based on conversations it overhears." "Well, Bill and some of his fellow curse-breakers were joking in his office one day about how they'd spend the gold that had just been deposited to a particular vault in the main Gringotts branch in Cairo. They were aware of this deposit, see, because the warlock who placed it with Gringotts had guarded it with powerful curses. Well, naturally, Gringotts can't have its vaults guarded with "outside" curses. So, Bill and his team were quickly brought in to break the spells so that Gringotts could then put their own enchantments on this fortune." "Dad's enchanted typex picked up on their joking banter and sent messages to Gringott's main system to divert the gold from the warlock's vault into the vaults of Bill and his team of curse-breakers. When the news of an unauthorized diversion of this fortune broke, Bill was as surprised as anyone. He was, of course, worried that perhaps blame would be shifted to his team for ineffective curse-breaking. But, he never dreamed that a large portion of that fortune was sitting in his own vault at that very moment. Or that the goblins had broken the code sent by the enchanted typex and were at that very moment swarming towards his office." "You may be wondering how I came to learn all of this in Romania, how it is that I sent Norbert with this critical missive rather than a less conspicuous owl and how you can help Bill and his friends with their troubles. Well . . ." Arawa, you're on next. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 18 11:49:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 07:49:00 -0400 Subject: Revision #2 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1094 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Revision #2 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1091] Re: New activity!!! Date: 4/18/00 7:49 am (ET) Here's a revised list already: voicelady Dariwin_nyc plinsenmayer arawa pet4ever iago_nyc Skimmel_98 sweetandsour Melanie Moore From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Tue Apr 18 13:32:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 09:32:00 -0400 Subject: Revision #2 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1095 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: Revision #2 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1094] Revision #2 Date: 4/18/00 9:32 am (ET) Ya keep spellin' my name wrong like that and yer gonna hurt m'feelin's. Oh, I had a thought - we should make sure that we don't post any direct replies to the "story" messages, other than to continue the story. That way, the whole thing can be followed without interruption. Does that make ANY sense? From arawa_99 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 18 16:22:00 2000 From: arawa_99 at yahoo.com (arawa_99 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 12:22:00 -0400 Subject: New Activity (Part III) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1096 From: arawa_99 Subject: Re: New Activity (Part III) Reply To: [Yahoo! #1093] New Activity (Part III) Date: 4/18/00 12:22 pm (ET) "You may be wondering how I came to learn all of this in Romania, how it is that I sent Norbert with this critical missive rather than a less conspicuous owl and how you can help Bill and his friends with their troubles. Well, this is how we need your help...I have managed to train Norbert to carry people and heavy packages, he's not as fast as and owl, but more useful in this particular situation...I need you to get Ron, using the dragon, and I'd like you both to come to meet me in Romania...Ron knows a little bit about the typex - I don't know what Dad did to it and I dare not tell him whats happened. Please help - you are our only hope. I know Norbert knows you, and I was afraid that if he turned up at home, Mum would know something was up. See You Soon - Charlie" Hagrid was stunned, and a little proud - he had never come across a dragon that could carry people before, they were not usually that trustworthy - he had really hatched a winner! Quickly he packed his new wand (given to him after his name was cleared) and a few clothes, and fed Fang - he had to leave quickly - who knew what had happened to Bill by now - he had to run. As he ran out of his hut, he saw Norbert getting ready for take off - it was amazing how huge he'd grown - he could probably carry three or four people by now. He got on the dragon, made himself comfortable, and set off for the Weasley's house. He only hoped he'd arrive while it was dark... From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 18 19:23:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 15:23:00 -0400 Subject: Revision #3 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1097 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Revision #3 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1094] Revision #2 Date: 4/18/00 3:23 pm (ET) voicelady Dariwin_nyc plinsenmayer arawa pet4ever iago_nyc Skimmel_98 sweetandsour Melanie Moore norevoli From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Apr 18 20:27:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 16:27:00 -0400 Subject: FanFic Listserve for those Interested Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1098 From: plinsenmayer Subject: FanFic Listserve for those Interested Date: 4/18/00 4:27 pm (ET) Hi: Received the following message on harrypotteranonymous (egroups list) yesterday and thought I should pass on the information in case anyone here is interested. I've been following this fanfic series (it's now Chapter 3) from the beginning and am enjoying it immensely. Note the warnings re: adult content (it *is* as she says PG-13 but is still intended for an adult audience). >From Lori Summers: Hello all! Your friendly neighborhood keyboard-pounder here, announcing the third chapter of my ongoing story, which is quickly turning into a huge long monstrous thing that might end up being as long as one of the real books. This is a problem I have: literary bloat syndrome. When I announced the previous chapter I got a lot of requests for a blurb or teaser so folks would know if they wanted to read the thing, so I've written one: ************** For Hermione Granger, life was stable. A mere nine years after her graduation from the Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, she has just taken the prestigious post of Head Charms Fellow at the Institute of Magical Academics. Her home is a charming stone mansion that is warm and inviting despite being a bit of a fixer-upper, but she shares the upkeep with her five amiable roommates: Justin Finch-Fletchley, Memory Charm supervisor for the Division of Muggle Affairs; George Weasely, broomstick test pilot and amateur chef; Cho Chang, professional Quidditch player; Laura Chant, liaison to the International Federation of Wizards from the country of Australia, and last but not least, Harry Potter, world-famous vanquisher of evil...occupation unknown. She has gotten used to having unanswered questions about the life of her only surviving best friend: Where does he go when he leaves home for days at a time? Why does he often come home injured and dispirited? Why can't he tell his friends what he does, and who in the house knows more than they're saying? These questions become more urgent when Harry collapses from a magical attack, forcing him to share his secrets with his roommates. Will Hermione be drawn once again into his world? Whatever the outcome,it seems that her stable life will never be the same. ************** Obligatory Author's Note: This story is set fifteen years after the events of Sorcerer's Stone and is intended for grownups. This means it's not for kids. To recap, it's for grownups. I don't think it will contain anything specifically *bad* for kids, but it deals with adult themes and situations. It will contain violence, swearing, mushy stuff, references to sex and may even eventually contain more than just references to it, if you get my drift, though it will continue to be rated PG-13. So don't be giving this to your 9-year old nephew and expect it to be appropriate or expect him to like it. That being said, I hope that *you* enjoy it, and feedback is immensely appreciated. Those of you who've already been reading it know that this story has strong tendencies towards H/H shippiness. It won't always be that way. Eventually it'll have a lot more than just tendencies. If that turns you off, well...read it anyway, maybe it'll change your mind. Or you could scroll through the shippy parts...there's also an actual plot to hang your hat on. Please email me if you'd like chapters, and specify which ones you'd like. To join the Paradigm of Uncertainty mailing list (which gets new chapters automatically), send a blank email to ParadigmOfUncertainty-subscribe at egroups.com. From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 18 23:03:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 19:03:00 -0400 Subject: HP Puzzle #1 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1099 From: melaniem68 Subject: HP Puzzle #1 Date: 4/18/00 7:03 pm (ET) Here is another activity idea I had, to do while waiting your turn with the story, or for those who chose not to sign up. Since joining Yahoo, the Games board has renewed my love of cryptograms, so I thought I'd make up some HP ones. I have taken a quote from each of the books, including the speaker, and replaced each letter with a different one. Example: MDSSB LZQQAS = HARRY POTTER The object of the game is to find the quote, and the speaker. No need to know who is being spoken to, or the situation or context, though it may help in solving the rest of the puzzle. Each quote in this post is a separate puzzle. That is, if, on one puzzle, you change an "B" to a "T", then all instances of "B" *in that quote* will also be "T". But the Bs in the other quotes will not necessarily be "T". E-mail me at melaniem68 at yahoo.com with your solutions or any questions. I'll post the answers in 24 hours, along with the winner(s). The winner will make up the next puzzle. If there is more than one, I will randomly pick from among them. Good luck. Melanie SORCORER'S STONE: STWK WB QFMQYYQBK MTWXQC KTWK PDCY DX, WBH CWKTQC WKKCWMKDZQ, KJJ. --YQQ EJCHWB ******* CHAMBER OF SECRETS: RCKN LCS QXCEN, TUYYF. DJSNDTNY, FJZ URI C UYN PJYDT DTN MYJRD GUSN. --SCEINYJF EJKOTUYD ******* PRISONER OF ASKABAN: DRX MDXK RDY HWAWMX YVX UWFY YVWY DRX BK WTT-GRDLBRI. --KBENTT YAXTWLRXN From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 19 21:02:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:02:00 -0400 Subject: The story?? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1100 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: The story?? Date: 4/19/00 5:02 pm (ET) Who is writing the next segment of the story? From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 19 21:13:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:13:00 -0400 Subject: Lady at School Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1101 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Lady at School Date: 4/19/00 5:13 pm (ET) I met a lady at the science fair last night who was in the middle ground in the Harry Potter debate. She didn't like Harry Potter very much but she wasn't one of those who hates the books and wants to see them banned. She thought the books were fine for kids and she was glad her children had read them. She had read the first one but had no interest in reading any of the others. As such, she's the first of her type I've run into. Everyone else I know either adores Harry, hasn't read any of them, or hates Harry with a deep abiding passion. Her problem? "Too much witchcraft." It made her uncomfortable. When I tried to pursue why that was the case I got one of those "It just does" answers. I'm not sure how to deal with that other than to say "Hmm" and move on. From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Apr 19 21:28:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:28:00 -0400 Subject: Lady at School Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1102 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: Lady at School Reply To: [Yahoo! #1101] Lady at School Date: 4/19/00 5:28 pm (ET) Cool, what were you doing at the science fair? What was SHE doing? Offering irrefutable proof that Noah's Ark was found on Mount Ararat? Tee hee hee. P.S STORY! STORY, I SAY! From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Apr 19 21:37:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:37:00 -0400 Subject: Lady at School Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1103 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Lady at School Reply To: [Yahoo! #1101] Lady at School Date: 4/19/00 5:37 pm (ET) I've never heard of any adult who was lukewarm about the HP books -- you either become obsessed with them, love them (but fall somewhere short of obsession), hate them with the white hot passion of a thousand suns or think they're for kids (or have never heard of them). I also can't imagine anyone not wanting to read the remaining HP books either. Although, truth be told, my husband is probably only reading them under duress (because he hates to read rather than anything against the HP books though). I wonder why this person thinks it's fine for her kids to have read them but doesn't like them herself on the grounds of the "witchcraft." Normally, someone who would object on the "witchcraft" grounds would be the type to forbid her children to read them I would think. Interesting . . . Where *is* the story? Penny From arawa_99 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 19 22:32:00 2000 From: arawa_99 at yahoo.com (arawa_99 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:32:00 -0400 Subject: Lady at School Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1104 From: arawa_99 Subject: Re: Lady at School Reply To: [Yahoo! #1103] Re: Lady at School Date: 4/19/00 6:32 pm (ET) By the way - did I kill the story???? I have never heard of that either - to say that you are glad your kids have read them, but not like them yourself, because of too much witchcraft? To me thats a double standard the wrong way around...oh well, at least she doesn't mind her kids reading them...it's a free country - or so they tell me... From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 19 23:53:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 19:53:00 -0400 Subject: Lady at School Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1105 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Lady at School Reply To: [Yahoo! #1104] Re: Lady at School Date: 4/19/00 7:53 pm (ET) We're waiting for pt4ever to write her installment. How long shall we wait before the next person jumps in? (I only ask because I know people have differing schedules due to vacations, work, etc.) And as much as WE enjoy the stories, unfortunately they will not always appeal to everyone. And that's okay. At least she has an open mind and is not against her children reading them. From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 20 00:29:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 20:29:00 -0400 Subject: HP Puzzle #1 - Winners and Answers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1106 From: melaniem68 Subject: HP Puzzle #1 - Winners and Answers Reply To: [Yahoo! #1099] HP Puzzle #1 Date: 4/19/00 8:29 pm (ET) And the winners are: Christine (I'm sorry, I don't know your Yahoo ID) Voicelady Norvelli Penny I've chosen Christine to bring us the next puzzle. It doesn't have to be cryptograms, as long as it translates well to the message board. Thanks to all who participated. I've put the answers below. Melanie Sorcorer's Stone: What an excellent chaser that girl is, and rather attractive, too. - Lee Jordan Chamber Of Secrets: Nice big smile, Harry. Together, you and I are worth the front page. - Gilderoy Lockhart Prisoner Of Azkaban: One does not parade the fact that one is all-knowing. - Sibyll Trelawney From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 20 06:38:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 02:38:00 -0400 Subject: Waiting time for story Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1107 From: melaniem68 Subject: Waiting time for story Reply To: [Yahoo! #1105] Re: Lady at School Date: 4/20/00 2:38 am (ET) <How long shall we wait before the next person jumps in? (I only ask because I know people have differing schedules due to vacations, work, etc.)> How about 24 hours? That should allow enough time to work around time zone differences or work/school hours. But if someone's turn comes up while they are away from their computer for days on end (vacation, computer problems, etc), the story can continue. If the story keeps going, the person will have another chance when their turn comes around again. What do you guys think? BTW, is someone gonna title the poor thing?! ;) Melanie From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 20 12:36:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:36:00 -0400 Subject: Round Robin - Two points Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1108 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Round Robin - Two points Reply To: [Yahoo! #1107] Waiting time for story Date: 4/20/00 8:36 am (ET) I think two things need to be clarified. First, apparently we've shifted from calling out who is writing the next section to simply walking down the list. I missed that. If you are one of the story writers, check the list to see if you are next. Second, 24 hours isn't enough time. I primarily check this from the office since my home connection is slightly slower than asphalt in August. If the person ahead of me on the list posts something late on Friday, I might not even see it until Monday morning. Then there's the issue of writing styles. I know writers who agonize over grocery lists for more than 24 hours. Generally its worth waiting for them. If we have to have a time limit, I'd like to recommend that we make it two working days before we move down the list. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 20 12:56:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 08:56:00 -0400 Subject: Waiting time for story Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1109 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Waiting time for story Reply To: [Yahoo! #1107] Waiting time for story Date: 4/20/00 8:56 am (ET) <<BTW, is someone gonna title the poor thing?! ;)>> I did title it: HOW HAGRID BECAME A HERO From christineoswell at yahoo.com Thu Apr 20 14:15:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 10:15:00 -0400 Subject: HP Puzzle #1 - Winners and Answers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1110 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: HP Puzzle #1 - Winners and Answers Reply To: [Yahoo! #1106] HP Puzzle #1 - Winners and Answers Date: 4/20/00 10:15 am (ET) Hi all. Sorry I didn't get my cryptograms posted last night (we got a babysitter for the first time in a month!) and since they aren't quite done I won't be able to get them up for a few hours as I am on my way out the door to the dentist. Hopefully I will get them posted as soon as I get back. Thanks for the patience! Christine :o) From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 20 18:10:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:10:00 -0400 Subject: Fun new Activity - Well sort of Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1111 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Fun new Activity - Well sort of Date: 4/20/00 2:10 pm (ET) Here's one you may find amusing: I collect covers for the various Harry Potter books from around the world. One of my friends in Moscow just sent me a cover of a book that purports to be "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone" in Russian. I don't read enough Russian to get very far past the title but as close as I can tell that is what the title says. (You may say that there is no official Russian edition of any of the Harry Potter books and you are probably right. International copyright laws don't slow the Russian underground down very much.) The problem is that the illustration does not go with any scene in the book. Some other international versions do this as well. The Italian Philosopher's Stone cover shows Harry wearing a hat that looks like a giant mouse head while playing chess with a giant mouse. One of the Spanish covers shows Harry standing on platform 9 3/4 looking at a bright blue Hogwarts express. I recognized the Russian cover at once and it goes with a different book. Your assignment is to guess what the right book is. I'll give you two clues: 1) Potter is involved and 2) It shows a rabbit in a blue waist coat eating a carrot. Sorry no huge prizes. From christineoswell at yahoo.com Thu Apr 20 18:45:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:45:00 -0400 Subject: HP Puzzle #2 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1112 From: christineoswell Subject: HP Puzzle #2 Date: 4/20/00 2:45 pm (ET) K, here goes. Using the same format as before, these are quotes, you have to figure them out and who said them. As my first two books are loaned out right now these are all from Azkaban. Let me know if you need hints... Email your answers to christine at oswell.com and I will announce the winners tomorrow morning. the winner gets to do the next one. Oh, and remember that the all 3 quotes are different puzzles. 1. H OJR'Z KGAGAFGK NCQHRZ EJL ZJ CPJM MWW, AHCC XKNRXGK. - CGDGKLC CRNBG 2. A RPI'X USKT XUAQ ISBYE-WSBYE, RAQUE-RSQUE IPIQTIQT SYPDX IPX UAXXAIN WTPWVT RUP MTQTJKT AX. - SDIX BSJNT 3. B HWZGE BE LBCC JROY RTQ HBAAYKYTVY ZTCYPP R JRH RFY-JRT BP PERTHBTI WZEPBHY ENY HWWK.... - JBTYKR JVIWTRCC From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Fri Apr 21 14:22:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:22:00 -0400 Subject: Fun new Activity - Well sort of Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1113 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: Fun new Activity - Well sort of Reply To: [Yahoo! #1111] Fun new Activity - Well sort of Date: 4/21/00 10:22 am (ET) Beatrix Potter's "Peter Rabbit"? From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Fri Apr 21 14:25:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:25:00 -0400 Subject: Round Robin - Two points Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1114 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: Round Robin - Two points Reply To: [Yahoo! #1108] Round Robin - Two points Date: 4/21/00 10:25 am (ET) OK. It seems to have been two working days, so, unless PT4EVER nay says me, I will be writing the next installment. Given that today is Good Friday, does that mean that I have until Wednesday? I promise that it won't take that long. :-) --Iago From christineoswell at yahoo.com Fri Apr 21 14:41:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 10:41:00 -0400 Subject: HP Puzzle #2 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1115 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: HP Puzzle #2 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1112] HP Puzzle #2 Date: 4/21/00 10:41 am (ET) Slight revision to #3: B HWZGE BE LBCC JROY RQT HBAAYKYTVY ZTCYFF R JRH RPY-JRT BF FERTHBTI WZEFBHY ENY HWWK.... - JBTYKR JVIWTRIRCC Hope that makes it more do-able! Christine (christine at oswell.com) From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Fri Apr 21 15:24:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:24:00 -0400 Subject: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- Part V A Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1116 From: iago_nyc Subject: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- Part V A Date: 4/21/00 11:24 am (ET) The trip to the Weasley's was somewhat uneventful - if you call two near-misses with Muggle aircraft and a brush against a church tower uneventful. Hagrid was a bit rusty in flying dragons and Norbert kept on dropping off into a light sleep. It must've been a light sleep, since it wasn't too difficult to wake him (just as the church tower or British Airways jets were looming closer). Norbert didn't really care to be awakened and would snort out a small flash of fire to show his displeasure, but this wasn't unusual for dragons - hence the saying, 'Let sleeping dragons lie'. Hagrid and Norbert bounce-landed on the Weasley's front lawn at dusk, digging large dragon foot holes in the lawn and tearing up a rosebush. Luckily few people were around, although there was a notice in the Times the next morning which read: "POSTAL CLERK SEES DRAGONS Mr. Wilson Cranberry, not known for his imagination by his co-workers and neighbors, reported that a large, green, scaly Dragon appeared in his neighborhood last night. The police received his call at approximately 7:15PM last night. Mr. Cranberry swore that it was a real dragon, denied accusations that he had been drinking, and imsisted that the police look for scale samples and take plaster casts of possible dragon footprints. Mr. Cranberry is currently undergoing treatment at The Elizabeth Infirmary for the Possibly Insane." From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Fri Apr 21 15:25:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:25:00 -0400 Subject: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- Part V B Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1117 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- Part V B Reply To: [Yahoo! #1116] How Hagrid Became A Hero -- Part V A Date: 4/21/00 11:25 am (ET) Upon landing, Hagrid jumped off Norbert and rang the Weasley's bell. Mr. Weasley answered, wiping a bit of mashed potato off his chin, as he had just gotten up from the dinner table. "Oh, hello, Hagrid. How nice of you to visit", Mr Weasley said with a somewhat bemused look on his face. "Um, is that a dragon?" "Yes", answered Hagrid. "Sorry about the roses." "Hmm. Perhaps you should bring it out back. It does stand out a bit much. And perhaps you could stop him or her ---- oh, I see, it's a him --- perhaps you could stop him from munching on the neighbor's hedge." Norbert had made quick work of the neighbor's finely trimmed hedges, which minutes before looked like green rectangles and now resembled half-eaten cookies. Hagrid got Norbert into the backyard although Norbert whined a bit before stopping his hedge-feast. "So, Hagrid, what brings you out our way, eh?", Mr. Weasley asked, as they sat down in the Weasley's front room. Hagrid looked for a moment as if a rat had climbed into his shorts, since he knew that he couldn't give the real reason he was there. "Is Ron about?", Hagrid finally responded, not answering the question at all. "Oh, no. I'm afraid you missed him. He's gone off to see his brother Bill. Just got the owl yesterday and off he went. Strange thing, though. The owl. I'd never seen the like of it before. It was this small black owl with the reddest eyes I've ever seen. Come to think of it, the only red eyes I've ever seen. It wasn't Bill's usual owl. I do wonder where he got it. And, to tell the truth, it was the most unfriendly and bad-tempered owl I've ever taken a message from. I hope he got it cheap." "Oh", said Hagrid. "I'll be off then." "Really? Are you sure you won't stay for dinner? It's roast beef and potatoes and brocolli". Hagrid's stomach just then began to growl, reminding him that it had been sometime since he'd eaten. "Um, oh. I guess I could stay for a short bit, but then I really must be going." Back in the air, after the afore-mentioned meal and a light dessert (mince pie, apple pie, vanilla ice cream, and raspberry sherbert - "light" by Hagrid's standards), Hagrid's mind slowly began to churn over the facts as he saw them: Bill was in trouble with Gringott's. Charlie knew about it and wanted Hagrid's and Ron's help. Only Ron was already sent for by Bill. Except Bill couldn't have sent any message if, as Hagrid assumed, Gringott's had locked him up. Once in custody, as everybody knew, you were allowed only one owl, and that would have been the owl that he sent to Charlie. Then there was the fact that the owl that got Ron was a nasty black owl with red eyes. And, reasoned Hagrid, since you can almost always judge a book by it's cover, a nasty black owl with red eyes had to be up to no good. Which meant that not only was Bill in trouble, but Ron was too. The only question was : "What would Hagrid do now?" "Well", said Hagrid out loud to a seagull he was passing, "I guess it's off to Africa and Gringott's. It's all up to me now." ------------ All yours, Skimmel. From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Fri Apr 21 15:26:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:26:00 -0400 Subject: Round Robin - Two points Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1118 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: Round Robin - Two points Reply To: [Yahoo! #1114] Re: Round Robin - Two points Date: 4/21/00 11:26 am (ET) Ok, but, like, you hafta write it like you THINK PT4EVEER was gonna write it. From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Fri Apr 21 15:27:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:27:00 -0400 Subject: Story Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1119 From: iago_nyc Subject: Story Date: 4/21/00 11:27 am (ET) Had to break my installment into two pieces. Hope that doesn't confuse people, since part A doesn't get too far. From arawa_99 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 21 15:58:00 2000 From: arawa_99 at yahoo.com (arawa_99 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 11:58:00 -0400 Subject: Story Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1120 From: arawa_99 Subject: Re: Story Reply To: [Yahoo! #1119] Story Date: 4/21/00 11:58 am (ET) I just had to say that I think this story idea is so wonderful. I haven't sat down to write anything like that since it was an elementary school assignment - I had forgotten how much enjoyment you could get from writing a story. Just had to say thanks, voicelady! From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 21 19:29:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 15:29:00 -0400 Subject: Fun new Activity - Well sort of Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1121 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Fun new Activity - Well sort of Reply To: [Yahoo! #1113] Re: Fun new Activity - Well sort of Date: 4/21/00 3:29 pm (ET) Two points for Iago_nyc. Yes. The Russian cover illustration for Harry Potter and The Philosopher's Stone that my friend sent me was from Beatrix Potter's "Peter Rabbit." From christineoswell at yahoo.com Fri Apr 21 22:54:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 18:54:00 -0400 Subject: HP puzzle #2 answers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1122 From: christineoswell Subject: HP puzzle #2 answers Date: 4/21/00 6:54 pm (ET) here are the answers to the cryptograms: 1. I dont' remember asking you to show off, Miss Granger. - Severus Snape 2. I won't have any of this namby-pamby, wishy-washy nonsence about not hitting people who deserve it. - Aunt Marge 3. I doubt it will make any difference unless a mad axe-man is waiting outside the doors.... - Minerva McGonagall congrats to Melanie and Norevoli, who manage to figure them out in spite of the fact that I forgot a few letters in Prof. McGonagall's name (still blaming it on the dentist :o)). Since Melanie did the first one, I am choosing Norevoli to continue with #3. Christine From norevoli at yahoo.com Fri Apr 21 23:00:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 19:00:00 -0400 Subject: the Durseleys Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1123 From: norevoli Subject: the Durseleys Date: 4/21/00 7:00 pm (ET) I was just wondering... has anyone come up with a potential answer as to why Harry must return to the Durseley's every year?? I know that it is suppose to be revealed in future books but I'm curious as to what you all think. I never quite understood why they didn't just take him in at school to begin with. Although Jk does make a point of mentioning that this way Harry didn't get big headed about what he did. But after being accepted to Hogwarts and finding out that yes, Lord Voldemort is alive and is somewhere out there, why didn't they take him in instead of leaving him with Muggles.... My big question is: are the Durseley's the safest place for harry to live?? Now that they know that Voldemort's out there, probably plotting revenge, would keeping Harry with Muggles be the best protection for him during the summer..?? From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Fri Apr 21 23:15:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 19:15:00 -0400 Subject: the Durseleys Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1124 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: the Durseleys Reply To: [Yahoo! #1123] the Durseleys Date: 4/21/00 7:15 pm (ET) I've thought about that, I don't have a guess. I will say that y'all had better let ME begin the next "round robin" story, cause I have an interesting beginning, in which the Dursleys figure prominently. . . From norevoli at yahoo.com Fri Apr 21 23:55:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 19:55:00 -0400 Subject: Puzzle #3 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1125 From: norevoli Subject: Puzzle #3 Date: 4/21/00 7:55 pm (ET) Okay guys, here's the next cryptogram. Mine will only come from the first two books because my book three is STILL being borrowed (and hopefully I'll get it back soon!!) Anyway, all seperate puzzles have different codes, meaning you can't use the code from 1. for 2. You can email me at faerysneezes at yahoo.com with your answers. I'll post the answers and the winners tomorrow in the afternoon. Just to warn you I did these kind of quickly so if you notice a mistake in my code i'm very very very sorry!! I know the first two puzzles are very large but i couldn't help it, they're two of my favorites ... okay here it goes... 1. EBZZC, CXF TLLH CXFZ AJZLTYJE. ALLQLZA BZL BSOBCA JEL XTLA OEX YLJ TXDDSLH DC JEL XJELZ JLBP. -- ALBPFA IVTTVYBT 2. SRDU FHRFQH BRPQK UAMTJ UAXU'D LRRK XTK VHAHXKHK, VPU RA TR, MU'D TRU HTRPLA CRE DME FERFHEQW KHZXFMUXUHK-FRKSREH. -- THXEQW AHXKQHDD TMZJ 3. OLQQ--SLCTM'B RJVN RWCQPCWLXU --RNXXM OLNBLQLM GOOD LUCK From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Sat Apr 22 00:01:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 20:01:00 -0400 Subject: Casting info!!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1126 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Casting info!!!! Date: 4/21/00 8:01 pm (ET) >From Corona, an extremely reliable site:April 21, 2000... Actress/talk show host Rosie O'Donnell told the Popcorn movie news website that she is in negotiations to play Mrs. Weasley, mother to Harry Potter's best friend Ron. ""I just think it's absolutely enchanting and I would love to be a part of it," O'Donnell told Popcorn. "I think it's going to go down in history as a Wizard Of Oz-type epic for the next generation." From norevoli at yahoo.com Sat Apr 22 02:12:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 22:12:00 -0400 Subject: Casting info!!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1127 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Casting info!!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1126] Casting info!!!! Date: 4/21/00 10:12 pm (ET) That's great! do you think Rosie will draw up an brit accent for herself?? I could actually picture her working herself up for a long lecture like Mrs. Weasley does many times in the book. From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 22 02:46:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 22:46:00 -0400 Subject: Casting info!!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1128 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Casting info!!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1127] Re: Casting info!!!! Date: 4/21/00 10:46 pm (ET) <I could actually picture her working herself up for a long lecture like Mrs. Weasley does many times in the book.> And can you picture Rosie's voice in the Howler? I can. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 22 03:41:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:41:00 -0400 Subject: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- VIA Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1129 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- VIA Reply To: [Yahoo! #1117] Re: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- Part V B Date: 4/21/00 11:41 pm (ET) The trip to Cairo would be a long one, Hagrid knew that and he had never been away from the British Islands. He stood next to Norbert carefully examining a muggle map of Europe. "Got to be careful with both Muggles and Magic types," he said to Norbert as he turned the map upside down trying to make sense of it. "Don't know what the attitudes in other countries toward dragons is likely to be. I reckon The English Channel is all right but the Mediterranean is a bit dodgy. That means its either through Spain, Gibraltar and North Africa or through Europe and Turkey. Whatcha think, Norbert?" Norbert snorted a ball of flame that landed square in the middle of Europe before it caused the map to explode into flames. "All right. Europe it is then. And we can go by Charlie Weasley in Romania. That's good thinking, Norbert. Charlie will have some ideas about what we should do next." The trip took four days and the magicking types in the other countries did have other ideas. In France it was: "Monsieur. We are certain that your dragon will be very good." "I think so. I hatched him from an egg meself." "Especially with a nice mint sauce and a good white wine." "Mint sauce?" his companion had said hitting him on the back. "Sacre bleu! Are you insane? This is a Norwegian Ridgeback. It must be a B'arnaise sauce and a strong red wine." "Bearnaise sauce? Mon Dieu. And you dare question my sanity. Did they teach you that culinary science was a dark art?" Hagrid had left them wrestling on the ground. In Germany, the situation was slightly different The wizard inspector told Hagrid that "We have ways of making your dragon talk." In Austria, Hagrid and Norbert crossed the Alps and Hagrid discovered to his delight that the hills really were alive with the sound of music. Or more properly of woodsprites who flew around them singing. At least they did until Norbert tried to take a bite out of one. Then the woodsprites flew up and sang to them from a safe distance. In Hungary, Hagrid found ... well... Hungarians. Shortly after crossing the border into Romania, a small black owl with red eyes flew close to them and for reasons that Hagrid could never tell anyone Hagrid decided to follow him. He lead them across farmlands and dark forests and mountains. Finally they cleared a mountain ridge and the small own flew straight toward a castle with many towers on a cliff above a mountain lake. Except that it was made of very dark stone it could have been Hogwarts. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 22 03:43:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 23:43:00 -0400 Subject: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- VIb Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1130 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- VIb Reply To: [Yahoo! #1129] Re: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- VIA Date: 4/21/00 11:43 pm (ET) But Hagrid and Norbert barely noticed the castle. The air was thick with dragons. Huge silver ones circled lazily over the castle while smaller blue and red ones dove into the lake and came up with mouths full of fish. A group of tiny green ones that seemed more like humming-birds than dragons flitted by Hagrid's head pausing for a heartbeat before disappearing. Large golden dragons sat patiently atop the castle walls as Hagrid and Norbert landed in the courtyard. They were greeted almost immediately by a young man with flame red hair. "Hagrid, my old friend," Charlie Weasley said pumping Hagrid's hand. "How are you? What do you think of Norbert now? Isn't he magnificent?" "Yes he is Charlie. I'm sorry about not bringing Ron. Your mum and your dad said a small black owl with red eyes came and fetched him just before I got there." "Small black with red eyes?" Charlie asked as though noticing that Ron wasn't there for the first time. "That would be an Egyptian Scarab Owl. But I wouldn't expect it to be from Bill. How curious." "Charlie. I am flattered that you want my help. But if you don't mind me asking... why me?" "Ah. That was my idea. There's something I have to show you. This has been a dragon center since before the Middle Ages," Charlie said as they entered the building and went into one of the research labs. "We've found some ancient paintings that ... well you'll just have to see them." Charlie lead Hagrid to a large table that was covered by a plain white cloth. Charlie pulled back the cloth to reveal a large stone with a painting on it. Hagrid moved around to get a better look. The painting was of a giant feathered serpent near a pyramid with several people around it. "Blimey. I ain't never seen a dragon like that one." "No one has. Not recently anyway. It was called Quetzalcoatl or Kukulcan in the Americas. There are several things wrong with the picture. The pyramids for example." "I heard they had pyramids in the Americas." "They do. But these are Egyptian pyramids. And look at this woman," Charlie said tapping one figure in the painting. Hagrid swallowed hard when he saw her in the picture. She had long black bushy hair and was twice as big as anyone else in the picture. "She looks too large to be allowed. Just like you." Tag, sweetandsour. You're it. (I guess we're just too verbose Iago_Nyc) From sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 22 15:18:00 2000 From: sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com (sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 11:18:00 -0400 Subject: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- VII Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1131 From: sweetandsour6453 Subject: Re: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- VII Reply To: [Yahoo! #1130] Re: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- VIb Date: 4/22/00 11:18 am (ET) "Blimey! She's a beauty! i've got to find her!" Hagrid cried. "Hagrid wait! Slow down! I think that maybe she raised this dragon, like you raise Norbert. And maybe it means that when and extrodinary person, raises a semi rare or rare dragon (like Norbert) they become something amazing because there owner is amazing. So i am giving you Norbert back, or at least till i figure something else out." "Gee...thanks Charlie!" "alright. Well now you need to help Bill. I'm sure you've already figured out that Gringotts has him locked up. That's were you come in. I think that if you wait maybe a week beforegoing to help him, and keep Norbert with you, Norbert may become something amazing. But you must keep him secret. The plan is to let him go outside of the Gringotts prison, were Bill is. The Goblin gaurds will see him, and if all goes according to plan, be distracted. Perharps we'll be lucky and they will even call The Ministy of Magic. That is when you sneak in and try to find Bill, and save him." "Wait...but doesn't Gringotts have all sorts of spells and enchantsments on it?" "well yes, it does. But i'm hoping that somehow, you'll be able to save bill." Just Then, a Small Black Owl, with red eyes swooped down to Charlie. he dropped a message at his feet and then flew away. Charlie opened the envelope and a note fell out. Charlie- HELP!!!!! It's me, Ron. i'm at the Gringotts prison, with Bill. They caught him trying to send another Owl, one to me. And the intercepted the letter! They knew that Charlie was trying to get me to help save Bill, so they sent this owl to get me before he could! Now they have me locked up too! Isn't that awful? but please, come! I've been watching the gaurds very closly and i know there schedul. Come around 1 AM that's when the Nightgaurd sneaks off to watch Wizrad News for about 15 minutes. one night I asked to get out to use the Rest Room right before he went to watch. When he had gone to watch, I switched the light switch that he uses to turn off the light in the cells so that it turns off the enchantments and spells. So please, cpme arpund 1 Am. PLEAsE!!!! Ron Melanie Moore it's your turn! From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Sat Apr 22 21:45:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:45:00 -0400 Subject: Casting info!!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1132 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Casting info!!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1128] Re: Casting info!!!! Date: 4/22/00 5:45 pm (ET) Yes, Rosie's actually been campaigning for the role ever since she had Ms. Rowling on her show! On another note, these books have finally prompted me to get off my duff and write that children's book I've always promised (threatened?) to write. From norevoli at yahoo.com Sat Apr 22 22:17:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 18:17:00 -0400 Subject: Encouragement Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1133 From: norevoli Subject: Encouragement Reply To: [Yahoo! #1132] Re: Casting info!!!! Date: 4/22/00 6:17 pm (ET) <<On another note, these books have finally prompted me to get off my duffand write that children's book I've always promised (threatened?) to write.>> let me give you a little whoop of encouragement!!! Go voicelady go!!! From arawa_99 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 23 15:21:00 2000 From: arawa_99 at yahoo.com (arawa_99 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 11:21:00 -0400 Subject: Encouragement Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1134 From: arawa_99 Subject: Re: Encouragement Reply To: [Yahoo! #1133] Encouragement Date: 4/23/00 11:21 am (ET) Yay voicelady! From your start to "How Hagrid..." I can see its less of a threat and more of a promise! From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 23 19:38:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:38:00 -0400 Subject: Encouragement Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1135 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Encouragement Reply To: [Yahoo! #1134] Re: Encouragement Date: 4/23/00 3:38 pm (ET) Thanks, guys. ;-) From lisavision at yahoo.com Sun Apr 23 22:24:00 2000 From: lisavision at yahoo.com (lisavision at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:24:00 -0400 Subject: length of book 4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1136 From: lisavision Subject: length of book 4 Date: 4/23/00 6:24 pm (ET) hi I dunno if this has been mentioned before, but has anyone seen that book 4 is going to have over 600 pages? thats double the amount of POA. it says that in amazon - its either a misprint or the next book is mega-long! cant wait! From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 23 22:58:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:58:00 -0400 Subject: length of book 4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1137 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: length of book 4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1136] length of book 4 Date: 4/23/00 6:58 pm (ET) Actually, it's supposed to be over 700 pages. Woo-hoo! From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 24 10:15:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 06:15:00 -0400 Subject: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- VIII Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1138 From: melaniem68 Subject: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- VIII Reply To: [Yahoo! #1131] Re: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- VII Date: 4/24/00 6:15 am (ET) Hagrid and Charlie looked at each other, aghast. 'Think Norbert can hold both of us?' Charlie finally asked. 'Yeah, but I don' know 'bout Bill and Ron on the way back,' Hagrid replied. 'You oughta stay here in case I have trouble, too.' Charlie nodded reluctantly. 'At least take these.' He took an object off a shelf and handed it to Hagrid. 'Another of Dad's muggle artifacts,' he said, in response to Hagrid's questioning look. 'They're called binoculars. These are amplified to see for miles.' He led Hagrid outside, and showed him how to look through the binoculars at a distant mountain. Putting the binoculars to his eyes, Hagrid was astonished to see, quite clearly, a tiny cottage near the peak. Charlie reached up and twisted the tubes of the binoculars. 'And, when you adjust them...' The walls of the distant house seemed to melt, revealing the family within. They went about their business, not noticing the transparency of their house. 'I've never used that feature,' Charlie explained hastily. 'But Dad says he's caught quite a few wizards red-handed that way. And I thought it might help you to see what's going on in the prison from far away.' 'Good idea,' said Hagrid. 'Well, I gotta get movin'!' Maybe Charlie had put a speed spell on Norbert, or maybe the Mediterranian wind was simply blowing them onward, but the trip to Egypt lasted only one day. Finally, at sunset, the super-binoculars revealed a flock of black, red-eyed owls, flying around a large building. 'That must be it!' Hagrid exclaimed, landing behind a sand dune a safe distance from the prison. Hagrid trained the binoculars toward the building. Hours later, the lights all switched off, except one window. Hagrid adjusted the binoculars as Charlie had shown him, and watched the front wall fade from view. A heavy-set goblin guard waddled into the lighted room, and settled down before a strange box with moving pictures eminating from one side. 'Now!' he said, not allowing himself to dwell on the object, he leapt onto Norbert, and the two charged toward the prison. 'About ten minutes left to find Bill and Ron and get outa here!' With the magical forcefield down, Hagrid had no trouble creeping into the row of cells. 'Now to find 'em! Lumos,' he commanded his wand. 'Hagrid? Over here! Hurry!' Hagrid looked toward the voices, to find two red heads behind a set of iron bars--and a very un-magic looking lock. Hagrid took out his wand. 'Now, what was that unlocking spell? I'm rusty.' 'It's Al--.' Bill began. 'Freeze!' A voice came from behind him, cutting bill off. A chill swept through Hagrid, and he was, literally, unable to move. Ron and Bill were also frozen in place. 'Turn around nice and slow, now,' the voice continued. 'No funny stuff.' Hagrid's body rose a few inches in the air, and rotated without otherwise moving. He found himself staring, not at the goblin guard, but at... Your turn Norovelli! From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Apr 24 12:44:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 08:44:00 -0400 Subject: Puzzle #3 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1139 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Puzzle #3 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1125] Puzzle #3 Date: 4/24/00 8:44 am (ET) Well, I've got Melanie, Penny and Christine to answer my crytogram...Does anyone else want to give it another try??? It seems everyone doesn't want to do the next crytogram....I'll give till the afternoon.... Norevoli From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Mon Apr 24 14:06:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:06:00 -0400 Subject: Story Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1140 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Story Date: 4/24/00 10:06 am (ET) Hi everyone: I'm going to be in England and Scotland on vacation for the next 12 days or so . . . so, if the plan is to circle back through the list of story writers again & again until we reach the conclusion, you should skip me. I'll be checking the board occasionally while I'm away but doubt I'll have the time to compose part of the story. Penny From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 24 14:33:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:33:00 -0400 Subject: Our Story Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1141 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Our Story Date: 4/24/00 10:33 am (ET) I read our story to my 10 year old and the reaction was... well... telling. Her only comment was that it wasn't funny. The only point where she laughed out loud was after Norbert tried to take a bite out of the woodsprites and they responded by flying around them and singing at a safe distance. (I wrote that part so my reading may have influenced her response.) My defense of the humor of Hagrid's idea of a light dessert got only a "hmmm." We've spent a lot of time discussing what it is about Harry Potter that makes the books so lovable. Consider the possibility that its because they are funny. Or perhaps more precisely, Ms. Rowling has a special knack for getitng the mix of humor and adventure just right. The closest analogy to Harry Potter that I've come up with, and I admit it isn't a very good one, is Tom Sawyer. Mark Twain certainly mixed his adventure with humor. Maybe the humor is a crucial element. From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Apr 24 15:48:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:48:00 -0400 Subject: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- IX A Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1142 From: norevoli Subject: Re: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- IX A Reply To: [Yahoo! #1138] How Hagrid Became A Hero -- VIII Date: 4/24/00 11:48 am (ET) Hagrid's body rose a few inches in the air, and rotated without otherwise moving. He found himself staring, not at the goblin guard but at--nothing?? "Oh my God! It's Hagrid!" screeched a high pitched voice. "Hermione?" Hagrid asked the voice coming from nowhere, "Don' tell me that its y--" But before Hagrid could finish he fell to the floor with an almighty bang. Hermione, in the suprise of finding Hagrid, had lost her hold on him and broke her floating charm. "Hermione! You'll alert the guard!" another voice whispered hastily, which Hagrid recognized as Harry's. (Meanwhile, in the other room, the guard was *too busy* trying very hard to clear the television screen of static to notice the great big thud. That was loud enough that it would have woken up the penguins in Anartica.) Hagrid was *slowly* pulled to his feet by Harry and Hermione who had taken off the invisibility cloak which they had been hiding under. "Uh, Hermione?" came Ron's voice from within the cell, "I'd really like to get some feeling back into my limbs." said Ron who still had a look of shock frozen on his face .. "Oh, sorry I forgot." Hermione said as she absent-mindedly waved her wand to break the freezing charm she had placed on both Bill and Ron. "What is it with you and this forgetting thing." Ron mumbled as he stretched his stiff arms and legs. From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Apr 24 15:59:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:59:00 -0400 Subject: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- IX Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1143 From: norevoli Subject: Re: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- IX Reply To: [Yahoo! #1142] Re: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- IX A Date: 4/24/00 11:59 am (ET) Harry, Hermione and Hagrid approached the bars of the cell. "Hurry," said Bill hushed, "We've only got a few minutes left before the goblin guard returns." "Alohomora." whispered Hermione... but nothing happened. "It doesn't work!" exclaimed Ron "Bill! You're the curse breaker! Do something!" "I can't break a spell from the inside or I would have done it ages ago." Bill explained. The group stood there speechless, all thinking very hard about what to do-- except Hagrid who was looking out the window at something. "Look, there's nothing we can do now. We've got two minutes left and we don't ALL want to be caught." said Harry "We'll come back tomorrow and try again." said Hermione. Hagrid was still looking curiously out the window at something and thinking about something too. He had forgotten something very important and he was trying extremely hard to remember what it was. "And spend another day in here!" complained Ron. "They serve the worst food!" "Oh Ron stop whining!" "You don't get it Hermione! I can't spend another day in here. I gotten so bored that I've been singing 'A 100 bottles of butterbeer on the wall' all day! I even started at 250 and it wasn't enough to keep me occupied!" "Ron we've got more important things to worry about" Hermione scolded as she rolled her eyes at him. "It's horrible in here... they've got *spiders*" Ron shuddered. "It can't be that bad, it's only Gringotts." Harry reasoned. "But it is! Isn't it Bill?" Ron turned to Bill for support but Bill, like Hagrid, was staring out the window. "Bill? HELLO? BILL?" Ron waved his hands at him to check for signs of life. "What do you suppose..." Bill started to say as he approached the window in his cell. Everyone followed his gaze out the window and stared along with him at the something in the sky... Then if finally came to Hagrid... "Where's Norbert?" ... okay back to Voicelady! From alohomora7 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 24 19:03:00 2000 From: alohomora7 at yahoo.com (alohomora7 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:03:00 -0400 Subject: Hi i'm new Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1144 From: alohomora7 Subject: Hi i'm new Date: 4/24/00 3:03 pm (ET) hi i'm new.... just wanted to say hi... Sarah From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Apr 24 19:15:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:15:00 -0400 Subject: Puzzle #3 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1145 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Puzzle #3 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1139] Re: Puzzle #3 Date: 4/24/00 3:15 pm (ET) Melanie will be doing the next puzzle/game.... here are the answers to the last crytogram 1. Harry, you need your strength. Seekers are always the ones to get nobbled by the other team. Seamus Finnigan 2. Most people would think that's good and behead but oh no, it's not enough for sir properly-decapitated-podmore -Nearly Headless Nick 3. Well-Percy's got a girlfriend -Ginny Weasley From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Mon Apr 24 23:03:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:03:00 -0400 Subject: Puzzle #4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1146 From: melaniem68 Subject: Puzzle #4 Date: 4/24/00 7:03 pm (ET) For a change of pace, I thought I'd try a different type of puzzle: a logic one (my other favorite puzzle type). For those not familiar with logic puzzles, you are given a introduction and a list of clues to solve the puzzle. It also helps to make up a chart to keep the clues straight. No need to remember any HP facts or trivia. In fact, if I've written this correctly, it can be solved even by someone who's never heard of Harry Potter! Clear as mud? OK! As usual, e-mail me with your solutions (melaniem68 at yahoo.com), or if you have any questions, or are "stuck" and need more clues. I've written the puzzle below. Melanie MEDIEVAL HOGWARTS It took young Nicky Flamel most of his first year at Hogwarts to get his five teachers straight, because their names all began with T (Tadsworth, Tamboni, Tolliver, Tombryan, and Tonilla). Four of his professors were heads of houses, each in charge of a different Hogwarts house (Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw, or Slytherin); the fifth did not have a house of his own, but was a deputy, ready to step in as the head of any house in an emergency. Each of the five graduated from Hogwarts in a different year (1305, 1307, 1312, 1314 or 1319), and wound up teaching a different subject (Astronomy, Charms, Defense against Dark Arts, Potions and Transfigurations). Using the clues below, can you figure out when each teacher graduated, which house (if any) he/she was in charge of, and what he/she taught? 1) The five teachers were the head of Hufflepuff, the 1305 graduate, the Potions professor, Professor Tonilla and the one who graduated in 1314. 2) Professor Tadsworth graduated in 1312. He was not the head of Gryffindor, who taught Defense against Dark Arts. 3) The Astronomy professor graduated 12 years before Professor Tamboni, who was in charge of Ravenclaw. 4) Professor Tombryan was the head of a house, but it wasn't Slytherin. 5) Professor Tolliver taught Transfigurations. 6) Professor Tonilla graduated earlier than the deputy head of house. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 13:39:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 09:39:00 -0400 Subject: Revision #4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1147 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Revision #4 Date: 4/25/00 9:39 am (ET) Hi all. We have a new member who asked to be added to our little round robin - so we have to keep the story going for a while longer! Actually - no worrry there! I'm getting ready to post and Im going to add a few new twists! So here's revision #4. voicelady Dariwin_nyc plinsenmayer arawa pet4ever iago_nyc Skimmel_98 sweetandsour Melanie Moore norevoli alohomora7 From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 14:37:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:37:00 -0400 Subject: How Hagrid Became a Hero Xi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1148 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: How Hagrid Became a Hero Xi Reply To: [Yahoo! #1143] Re: How Hagrid Became A Hero -- IX Date: 4/25/00 10:37 am (ET) Everyone followed his gaze out the window and stared along with him at the something in the sky... Then it finally came to Hagrid... "Where's Norbert?" >From both sides of the bars, everyone gathered as close to the window as they could, peering anxiously for some sight of the dragon. For a tense moment they stared in complete silence. Suddenly, Hagrid remembered Charlie's binoculars. He began fumbling through his many pockets, digging up a harmonica, a half-eaten pecan pie, a shoehorn for a very large shoe, and a rubber spider (at this Ron gave a quick yelp and then blushed furiously) before coming up with the binoculars in hand. He held them up to his eyes and fiddled with the control. The mountain looming in front of him seemed to vanish. And on the other side of the mountain was Norbert. Norbert was flying away from them! "Oh Norbie, are you gonna leave Mummy here?" Hagrid whispered sadly. But then, Norbert turned around and began flying back towards them as fast as a dragon ever flew. "Oh, he's comin' back! He's comin" fer us!" Hagrid cried. "Everyone down!" Everyone dropped to the floor. And just in time. Hagrid was on the floor, too, but because he was just too big to be allowed, he could still see what was happening through the window. Norbert was actually gaining speed. He grew bigger and bigger in Hagrid's sight until he was practically in the room with them. And then with a huge CRASH! Norbert WAS in the room with them! "Oh, Norbert, I knew ya wouldn't leave yer Mummy." Norbert seemed to bare his great, spiked teeth into a gigantic grin. He snorted and grunted a bit at Hagrid. "Okay, everyone. Back up as much as you can. Norbert's gonna get Bill and Ron out of the locked cell." Norbert backed up to the gate and wrapped his tail around a bar. He then flapped his wings, rose up into the air and with a great big HEAVE he pulled the gate out of the wall. He flew a little out into the open and dropped it down the mountainside. Norbert than flew back into the room and laid his tail down on the ground to invite everyone to climb onto his back. Once everyone was settled comfortably, or as comfortably as you could get on a dragon's back (they don't have reclining seats with flight attendant service, you know), Norbert rose into the air and began to fly away. After only a few minutes in flight, though, Norbert began to falter. "Hagrid, I think there's too much weight!" From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 14:41:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 10:41:00 -0400 Subject: How Hagrid Became a Hero Xii Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1149 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: How Hagrid Became a Hero Xii Reply To: [Yahoo! #1148] How Hagrid Became a Hero Xi Date: 4/25/00 10:41 am (ET) "We're going to land!" squealed Hermione. For a tense moment, they all held their collective breath, hoping that Norbert's strength wouldn't give out before they touched down. But luck was on their side this time. They landed on the self-same mountain from which they were trying to escape. Immediately, Norbert began eating the bushes, grass and leaves in order to replenish his stamina. "Hagrid, Bill," Harry asked, "what are we going to do now? I have my wand. Should I try to cast a spell to find out where we are?" "We know where we are," answered Ron. "We're on Gringott's prison mountain." "No, we're not," said Bill. "This isn't Gringott's prison." Everyone gaped at him. "I've been thinking a lot about this. Gringott's wouldn't have tossed me into the clink without listening to an explanation. I've been working there for a long time. They know me, and they know I would never do anything to jeopardize my position there. I think someone else - a not so very nice someone else - has taken me prisoner. And I think he's neutralized my magic. That's why I was unable to unlock the door." Bill sighed sadly. "Harry," Hermione said, "use your wand. Try to do some magic. Puh-lease! Try anything at all!" Harry pulled out his wand. He was afraid. He took a deep breath and then waved his wand while saying, "Vanicioro!" Nothing happened. Nothing at all. "Oh no..." he said. Ron grew pale, Hermione clutched at her hair, Bill just looked impossibly sad and Norbert snorted an alarm. Hagrid turned to Bill. "Bill, did you send an owl to Ron asking him to come for a visit?" Bill seemed surprised at the question. "No. I was just happy to see him. I never thought to ask why he was there." Hagrid then turned on Harry and Hermione. "'Ow did you know to come here to help them?" "Ron sent us an owl," they said. "No, I didn't!" Ron cried. "Right then, everyone who got a small black owl with fiery red eyes, raise yer hands." Everybody raised their arms except Bill. "It seems to me," Hagrid began, "it seems to me that someone went to a lot of trouble to get you all together." "My, my," exclaimed a voice from behind them. Five pairs of eyes swiveled towards the sound. "So it takes the overgrown idiot among you to begin sorting thing out." The speaker was the most frightening person they'd ever seen. He was impossibly tall, with lank, greasy dark hair down to his shoulders. His skin seemed only to just cover his bones. His fingernails were sharpened to sharp points. But the worst was his eyes. His eyes were a fiery red. Just like the evil owl. "Let me introduce myself. My name is Grebon. I'm so happy you've come to visit me. It's so nice to have guests. Especially the famous Harry Potter and friends. Having you here will raise my rank among Lord Voldemort's followers. Once he knows you're here, I shall become more than just a hanger-on. Oh yes..." his voice trailed off into a hiss. The group was terrified. "It's time to follow me. We have so much to do..." And against their will, they all followed Grebon back to the castle. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 15:08:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:08:00 -0400 Subject: The other author Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1150 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: The other author Date: 4/25/00 11:08 am (ET) Just in case anyone is interested, I just stumbled into a website dedicated to Ms. Stouffer, the one involved in the lawsuit against Rowling for copyright infringement. The address is: http://www.realmuggles.com/ From christineoswell at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 15:35:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 11:35:00 -0400 Subject: The other author Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1151 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: The other author Reply To: [Yahoo! #1150] The other author Date: 4/25/00 11:35 am (ET) hhmmmmm... seems a little biased to me... Gotta like the "articles" that don't quote from any particular source.. Christine From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 18:26:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:26:00 -0400 Subject: The other author Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1152 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: The other author Reply To: [Yahoo! #1151] Re: The other author Date: 4/25/00 2:26 pm (ET) Which articles? The press releases? They were, presumably, released by her, so that explains the bias. From christineoswell at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 19:31:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:31:00 -0400 Subject: The other author Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1153 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: The other author Reply To: [Yahoo! #1152] Re: The other author Date: 4/25/00 3:31 pm (ET) I just got the feeling that she did the site herself, but wants people to get the impression that it was done by someone else (if that makes sense..). Kinda like someone creating their own fan club. :o) Christine From norevoli at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 20:19:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:19:00 -0400 Subject: The other author Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1154 From: norevoli Subject: Re: The other author Reply To: [Yahoo! #1150] The other author Date: 4/25/00 4:19 pm (ET) i have to admit that the infringement chart shows alot of similarities between the two books. But at the same time they nit pick on little details that could be found in alot of other fantasy books/stories. I think the worst part was the part was in one of the articles where she is quoted making herself out as little David at the feet of Goliath. Sort of like when kids over exaggerate how much their knee hurts so that others will feel sorry for them. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 20:33:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:33:00 -0400 Subject: The other author Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1155 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: The other author Reply To: [Yahoo! #1154] Re: The other author Date: 4/25/00 4:33 pm (ET) Seems to me as though she's jealous of someone else's success and is trying to find some way to cash in on it. Muggle - a very easy word for totally dfferent people to come up with. From christineoswell at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 20:48:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:48:00 -0400 Subject: The other author Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1156 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: The other author Reply To: [Yahoo! #1154] Re: The other author Date: 4/25/00 4:48 pm (ET) <I think the worst part was the part was in one of the articles where she is quoted making herself out as little David at the feet of Goliath. Sort of like when kids over exaggerate how much their knee hurts so that others will feel sorry for them.> hee hee hee! good analogy! From what I understand, Stouffer approached JK last fall and wanted an out of court settlement for infringing on her copyrights, but never offered actual proof of them. So JK and Scholastic took Stouffer to court. Don't know if it was ever settled. Now that WB and the toy companies are involved Stouffer has brought action against them. I agree, I think she is jealous and wants a piece of the pie.... Christine From christineoswell at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 20:49:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:49:00 -0400 Subject: The other author Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1157 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: The other author Reply To: [Yahoo! #1156] Re: The other author Date: 4/25/00 4:49 pm (ET) Oh ya, I forgot to post this link to an article I found about it... http://www.bookmagazine.com/mar2000/potter.shtml From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Apr 25 21:54:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:54:00 -0400 Subject: The other author Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1158 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: The other author Reply To: [Yahoo! #1157] Re: The other author Date: 4/25/00 5:54 pm (ET) (Note: the following needs to be read rather sarcastically) Forget Mrs. Stouffer! I was going through my bookshelves looking for something to read, and I found a book that was even more similar. Ooh, JK Rowling has really done it with infringement this time! Let me list the similarities: Harry Potter and the Sorcer's Stone and the Mystery Book both have: Orphan boy - Leaves "bad" place to find a happier place - Mother dies trying to save him - Takes place in England - Written in English - Many characters have unusual, made-up names - Eventually meets his legal guardian - Is taken from his original bad situation by a large person - Main character denied food in his home - Abused by bullies - Small for his age - 10 letters in first and last name combined - A favorite character is named Oliver The book? Oliver Twist by Charles Dickens. I think Nancy Stouffer needs to get a grip. 'Nuff said. From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Apr 26 02:49:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:49:00 -0400 Subject: How Hagrid Became a Hero Xiii Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1159 From: darwin_nyc Subject: How Hagrid Became a Hero Xiii Reply To: [Yahoo! #1149] How Hagrid Became a Hero Xii Date: 4/25/00 10:49 pm (ET) And against their will, they all followed Grebon back to the castle. Upon their arrival, they were greeted by a small creature whom Grebon referred to as Geegorp - apparently, the house elf. "Take them to the cell for now!" Grebon ordered. "I shall deal with them momentarily. As for the dragon, take him to the kitchen. Prepare him French-style - with a nice, mild mint sauce." They were thrown into the cell and left alone for the moment. Everyone began to talk at once. "Oh no, whatever shall we -" "How on earth are we going to -" "I can't believe it, it's all my fault, we -" "SHHHHH!" whispered Hermione. "Don't you people EVER do the reading?? I have an idea. . ." From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Apr 26 13:37:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:37:00 -0400 Subject: How Hagrid Became a Hero ADDENDUM Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1160 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: How Hagrid Became a Hero ADDENDUM Reply To: [Yahoo! #1159] How Hagrid Became a Hero Xiii Date: 4/26/00 9:37 am (ET) Shame on me! The TITLE of this gollydarn story is "How Hagrid Became a Hero," and here I am screwing that up by setting Hermione up to save the day. I'm at work right now and I don't have time to remedy the situation just yet, so I propose two possible solutions: 1. Gimme a bit of time to fix my story before the next installment is written. I can probably do it this evening. 2. Skip over me and pretend I didn't even write anything - ignore it and continue from Voicelady's stuff. Whatever you do, don't let my ill-conceived paragraph blow the direction of the story! Smooches, Darwin From sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 26 20:06:00 2000 From: sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com (sweetandsour6453 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:06:00 -0400 Subject: How Hagrid Became a Hero ADDENDUM Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1161 From: sweetandsour6453 Subject: Re: How Hagrid Became a Hero ADDENDUM Reply To: [Yahoo! #1160] Re: How Hagrid Became a Hero ADDENDUM Date: 4/26/00 4:06 pm (ET) I think we can still save it. Just have the next person (the one who tells Hermoines plan) make sure the plot ivolves Hagrid playing the main part. If that happens and hagrid pulls it off he still is a hero. So don't worry about it!! :) oh and not that it's a big deal, i know it was probably a mistype or something but Harry Potter and Oliver Twist each have 11 letters in there names, not 10. But no big deal. The other author needs to as my friend Rachel says "take a chill pill!" Kimmy From arawa_99 at yahoo.com Wed Apr 26 20:56:00 2000 From: arawa_99 at yahoo.com (arawa_99 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 16:56:00 -0400 Subject: Story Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1162 From: arawa_99 Subject: Re: Story Reply To: [Yahoo! #1140] Story Date: 4/26/00 4:56 pm (ET) OK - I am aware it should be me next as Pilsenmayer is in England /Scotland for awhile - lucky her - Easter with my family would have been great... Give me a couple more hours OK, as I'm having a pretty bad day and won't have time to sit down until this evening. Darwin, don't worry, it just extends the story and throws a few twists in - something any good story must have... Anyway, I'll post the next installment sometime overnight... Anna From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Thu Apr 27 00:28:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:28:00 -0400 Subject: Puzzle #4 - Winners and Answers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1163 From: melaniem68 Subject: Puzzle #4 - Winners and Answers Reply To: [Yahoo! #1146] Puzzle #4 Date: 4/26/00 8:28 pm (ET) Congratualtions to christineoswell, lrcjestes, and sarvalsha, who solved the logic puzzle about Hogwarts in Nicolas Flamel's day. I've chosen lrcjestes to bring us the next puzzle (any type that translates well to the message board). The answers (in the form Professor - graduation year - house - subject): Tadsworth - 1312 - Hufflepuff - Charms Tonilla - 1307 - Slytherin - Astronomy Tamboni - 1319 - Ravenclaw - Potions Tolliver - 1314 - deputy head of house - Transfigurations Tombryan - 1305 - Gryffindor - Defense against Dark Arts Thanks to all who participated. Melanie From cj_bsm at yahoo.com Thu Apr 27 16:53:00 2000 From: cj_bsm at yahoo.com (cj_bsm at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:53:00 -0400 Subject: Puzzle #5 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1164 From: cj_bsm Subject: Re: Puzzle #5 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1163] Puzzle #4 - Winners and Answers Date: 4/27/00 12:53 pm (ET) EEEEEEK, now I have to think. I have an idea me and my 6yo son are working on. I'll try to get it ready for post this evening. Thanks for the confidence. cj (lrcjestes) From cj_bsm at yahoo.com Thu Apr 27 21:14:00 2000 From: cj_bsm at yahoo.com (cj_bsm at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 17:14:00 -0400 Subject: Puzzle #5 - Wands Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1165 From: cj_bsm Subject: Puzzle #5 - Wands Date: 4/27/00 5:14 pm (ET) Well, I came up with the Part A, then decided it would be too easy for most potterphiles, so I added the logic puzzle (Part B) For Quiz # 5 We'll be discussing wands. Quiz Part A: Fill in To whom does each wand belong: A. 10 '" willow (nice for Charms work) B. 11" mahogany (excellent for transfiguration) C. 13 '" yew (phoenix feather core) D. 16" oak (think size) E. 11" holly (phoenix feather core) F. 14" willow (unicorn tail hair core) Quiz Part B: Logic Mr. Olivander says the wand picks the wizard. Here are some hypothetical wands. You need to match the wizard to the length of his / her wand, the outer material and the inner magic core. The Wizards are: Sirius Black, Hermoine Granger, Remus Lupin, Severus Snape, and Fred Weasley. The lengths are: 9 '", 11", 11 '", 12", and 13". Outer materials include: Aspen, Cherry, Dogwood, Rosewood, and Womping Willow. Finally the cores are made of Asp Tongue, Centaur Tail Hair, Dragon Heartstring, Eagle Feather, and Unicorn Tail Hair. Your Clues (should you choose to accept this assignment: 1. Snape's prickly wand does not have a core of eagle feather. 2. Remus' wand is made from a tree with very distinctive bark and has a core of centaur tail hair. 3. Neither the cherry wand nor the wand made from womping willow wood have a dragon heartstring core, and neither of these wands belong to Sirius, or Snape. 4. Each of these wands belong to a different wizard: The 11" wand, the dogwood wand, the wand with the unicorn tail hair core, the womping willow wand, and the asp tongue wand. 5. Hermoine's wand is 2 '" longer than Fred Weasley's wand and 1" shorter than Severus Snape's. 6. Hermoine's wand has a core of unicorn tail hair. Good Luck. Responses and questions can be directed to CJ at lrcjestes at msn.com From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Thu Apr 27 23:06:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:06:00 -0400 Subject: Puzzle #5 - Wands Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1166 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: Puzzle #5 - Wands Reply To: [Yahoo! #1165] Puzzle #5 - Wands Date: 4/27/00 7:06 pm (ET) Oooh, oooh, I know, I know! Professor Plumb did it in the conservatory with the lead pipe. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 28 14:37:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:37:00 -0400 Subject: Puzzle #5 - Wands Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1167 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Puzzle #5 - Wands Reply To: [Yahoo! #1166] Re: Puzzle #5 - Wands Date: 4/28/00 10:37 am (ET) Nope. I have the lead pipe. From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Sat Apr 29 20:04:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 16:04:00 -0400 Subject: WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1168 From: darwin_nyc Subject: WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Date: 4/29/00 4:04 pm (ET) Youse go bye byes? From cj_bsm at yahoo.com Sat Apr 29 21:28:00 2000 From: cj_bsm at yahoo.com (cj_bsm at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 17:28:00 -0400 Subject: WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1169 From: cj_bsm Subject: Re: WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1168] WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Date: 4/29/00 5:28 pm (ET) Did my puzzle frighten everyone away???? From cj_bsm at yahoo.com Sun Apr 30 00:36:00 2000 From: cj_bsm at yahoo.com (cj_bsm at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 20:36:00 -0400 Subject: Puzzle #5 - Wands Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1170 From: cj_bsm Subject: Re: Puzzle #5 - Wands Reply To: [Yahoo! #1165] Puzzle #5 - Wands Date: 4/29/00 8:36 pm (ET) There have been some questions about the wood that the wands are made of....particularly the prickly wooded wand and the wood from a tree with distinctive bark. This is the list of possible woods: Aspen, Cherry, Dogwood, Rosewood, and Womping Willow For the prickly wooded bark....think of a flowering bush that yeilds prickly, but beautiful flowers. For the distinctive bark wood....Its the aspen...very similar to a birch tree in the northeast. Hope this helps. Melanie has gotten Part A correct....no answers for Part B yet. CJ From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Sun Apr 30 01:17:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:17:00 -0400 Subject: WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1171 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1169] Re: WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Date: 4/29/00 9:17 pm (ET) Probably not, but when's that story continuing? Aside from that, I'm sure that there are other conversations that can commence -- Or is everyone hunched down in their basements waiting for July 8th? From christineoswell at yahoo.com Sun Apr 30 01:51:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:51:00 -0400 Subject: WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1172 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1171] Re: WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Date: 4/29/00 9:51 pm (ET) Maybe if I had a basement, I might be... But instead I'm stuck in our tiny apartment waiting for the April Showers to end so I can enjoy my flowers. From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Sun Apr 30 02:25:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:25:00 -0400 Subject: WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1173 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1168] WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Date: 4/29/00 10:25 pm (ET) I had a similar question: Are the Friday night chats still active? Last night was the first Friday in a long time, where I was able to make it. But I signed into the chat room at around 7:00 (PST) and no one was there (twilight zone music here). Did the chat die out within the first hour, or is it no longer going on at that time period? Melanie From estesrandy at yahoo.com Sun Apr 30 14:04:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 10:04:00 -0400 Subject: Vancouver / Time Travel Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1174 From: estesrandy Subject: Vancouver / Time Travel Reply To: [Yahoo! #1172] Re: WHERE EVERYBODY GOED? Date: 4/30/00 10:04 am (ET) We have a basement, but I'd much rather be in Vancouver. I visited there 9 years ago and have many fond memories of Vancouver, Victoria island and Whistler. I have a thought about the third book. It seems to me that the author was very careful to avoid changing the timeline at the end of the book. Harry was not allowed to alter any activity that had been written about, and he actually saw himself do something before he was sent by Dumbledore to do it. This almost implies that any time travel has in effect already taken place and would have been part of the story line. I suppose that this makes it easier for the author to keep sane when trying to tell a story, but it seems to limit the possibilities for changing the outcome of the story if something bad happens. Also, Harry says that he knew he could do something because he had already see himself do it. This seems to take some of the excitement out of the story to me. Speaking of Time Travel, I wonder what happens if you actually talk to yourself (ie. meet yourself while travelling back in time)? Would you just assume it was someone else like Harry Potter did? From cj_bsm at yahoo.com Sun Apr 30 14:29:00 2000 From: cj_bsm at yahoo.com (cj_bsm at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 10:29:00 -0400 Subject: Puzzle #5 - Wands - We have a winner Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1175 From: cj_bsm Subject: Re: Puzzle #5 - Wands - We have a winner Reply To: [Yahoo! #1165] Puzzle #5 - Wands Date: 4/30/00 10:29 am (ET) Melanie got Part A Correct: A. 10 '" willow (nice for Charms work) - (future)Lily Potter (since she was not a Potter when she bought her wand) B. 11" mahogany (excellent for transfiguration)- James Potter C. 13 '" yew (phoenix feather core) - Tom Riddle / Voldemort D. 16" oak (think size) - Rubeus Hagrid E. 11" holly (phoenix feather core) - Harry F. 14" willow (unicorn tail hair core) - Ron's new wand (to replace the broken wand) Christine got Part B correct. 1. Fred Weasley - 9 3/4 - eagle feather - whomping willow 2. Sirius Black - 11 1/2 - dragon heartstring - dogwood 3. Hermione Granger - 12 - unicorn - cherry 4. Remus Lupin - 11 - centaur tail - aspen 5. Severius Snape - 13 - asp tongue - rosewood My son and I spent the better part of an afternoon thinking up appropriate wands for everyone... It was fun Since Christine got the meat of the last puzzle I'll choose her to do the next puzzle....should she choose to accept this assignment...This message will self destruct in 5 seconds.......