Dumbeldores reaction

brooksindy brooksindy at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 1 15:51:00 UTC 2000


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From: brooksindy
Subject: Re: Dumbeldores reaction
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Date: 8/1/00 11:51 am  (ET)

I don't think we officially decided to end Spoiler Alerts after August
1 yet, so here is some space.
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MULTIPLE COMMENTS
1) On the gleam in Dumbldore's eyes. Note my message 5484, which is a
major speculation.
If Voldy can now safely touch Harry, and yet Harry's scar pain is
tolerable, maybe that means that one element of the long-term anti-Voldy
plan that I hypothesize Dumbledore to have, is now coming alive. For
Harry to lose that protection (Voldy hurting to touch him) is bad for
Harry, but maybe it creates a new vulnerability of Voldy *to* Harry -
and the explanation of the momentary gleam of triumph, is that Dumbledore
realizes this.

2) On the issue of Voldy's corporeal body achieved in Book IV - I
withdraw my suggestion that it might be the wreck of Bertha's body,
possessed and re-animated. A re-reading clearly shows that:
a) Voldy says her body was now useless to him after the torture/memory
spell shattering;
b) Voldy seems to be saying immediately thereafter that Wormtail did some
kind of spell that gave him a twisted, deformed but moderately useful
mini-version of his own body, and the cauldron spell was to convert that
to a full-grown usable body. So it appears that the Wormtail early spell
gave V. perhaps a homunculus type body, created out of nothingness (or
from whatever is necessary for a homunculus-creating spell). There is no
particular need for a possessed body if the homunculus body is created,
and that does seem to be what JKR is saying happened.

We still do not know who had/hid V's wand for the last 13 years though.

3) Here is an entirely different problem, although I think I also have
the solution.

Voldy wants to defeat death (presumably permanently).

Re-read Snape's opening speech in first day of potions class in Book I. He
says "potions can even stopper death". I take that to mean 'put a stopper
(that is, block up the hole) in the bottle from whence death comes' -
and I think he means this as a metaphor, not as a literal intepretation
of using a potion as a poison antidote. So if potions can already stop
death, what is Voldy trying to beat?

I think the explanation is simply that potions can delay or postpone
death, but never totally, permanently beat it. Voldy is/was seeking a
true non-philosophers/sorceror's stone means to physical immortality.






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