Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C6524 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Re: GoF Question & Statements Reply To: [Yahoo! #6522] GoF Question & Statements Date: 8/10/00 2:18 pm (ET) Goyle and Crabbe mentioned in this text, I believe are the fathers, and not the children in their fourth year. Does this help?