From tracilbell at yahoo.com Sat Jan 1 01:16:00 2000 From: tracilbell at yahoo.com (tracilbell at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 20:16:00 -0500 Subject: Introducing myself Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C267 From: tracilbell Subject: Re: Introducing myself Reply To: [Yahoo! #264] Introducing myself Date: 12/31/99 8:16 pm (ET) Nice to meet you harrypottertc ! :) I am an early 30's woman from western Canada who has a serious addiction to these books. They are the best I've read all century ;) Traci From angelx_ph at yahoo.com Sat Jan 1 16:34:00 2000 From: angelx_ph at yahoo.com (angelx_ph at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 11:34:00 -0500 Subject: Just joined the club Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C268 From: angelx_ph Subject: Just joined the club Date: 1/1/00 11:34 am (ET) First of all, Happy Y2K, everyone!!! Well, I just joined the club. I haven't finished reading the first book. I just started reading it today, as a matter of fact. I read eight chapters in one day. I couldn't put it down. It's so good. I can see why American kids are reading again because of this. I can't wait for the movie. Oh yeah, I agree that Steven Spielberg is the perfect director for the film (being a Spielberg fan, I gotta admit I'm kinda biased) but I also think Tim Burton ("Sleepy Hollow", "Batman") will also do justice to the book. I know that they are planning to search for British actors for the three lead kids but I think they need not look further for their Harry Potter because Haley Joel Osment (the kid from "The Sixth Sense"), in my opinion, will make a great Harry Potter. (P.S. I heard from reliable sources that he is, in fact, interested in the role and they're doing the necessary negotiations already but nothing's final). One last thing: Kristin Scott Thomas or Miranda Richardson as Professor McGonagall? What do you guys think? From norevoli at yahoo.com Sat Jan 1 16:41:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 11:41:00 -0500 Subject: Just joined the club Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C269 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Just joined the club Reply To: [Yahoo! #268] Just joined the club Date: 1/1/00 11:41 am (ET) As much as Haley Joel Osment was great in the sixth sense, I still would rather have an unknown brit kid to get the part. One, its an excellent start for them and Two, Harry Ron and Hermione are all British and its best to keep the brit flavour in there (flavour spelt the Canadian way =)...) But I wasn't aware that the head hunters for the Potter film had any dealings with him yet. Anyway, Welcome to the club, and IF you don't already have them, get books 2 and 3 right away so after you finish one you can dive right into the other. enjoy the books! From jeralynks at yahoo.com Sat Jan 1 18:46:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 13:46:00 -0500 Subject: Y2K cheer! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C270 From: jeralynks Subject: Y2K cheer! Date: 1/1/00 1:46 pm (ET) Happy New Year all! So after I finally convinced my husband to read "those childrens' books", and he reluctantly started Sorcerer's Stone, he flew through all three! It was rather funny watching him take off the dust jackets in the morning so he could read on the subway. Although he got the idea from watching me! One month closer to the next installment! Yay! Jeralyn From angelx_ph at yahoo.com Sun Jan 2 13:09:00 2000 From: angelx_ph at yahoo.com (angelx_ph at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 08:09:00 -0500 Subject: Just joined the club Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C271 From: angelx_ph Subject: Re: Just joined the club Reply To: [Yahoo! #269] Re: Just joined the club Date: 1/2/00 8:09 am (ET) Yeah, I know they're British. But I think casting Haley Joel Osment in the part of Harry would widen the film's audience. Using an unknown would probably only attract those who have read Harry Potter or true fans of fantasy movies. If Osment is cast in the part, it would widen the film's audience and would attract new readers to the books. Besides, a little makeup and a dialect coach could make Osment as British as tea and crumpets. From jeralynks at yahoo.com Sun Jan 2 15:06:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 10:06:00 -0500 Subject: Just joined the club Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C272 From: jeralynks Subject: Re: Just joined the club Reply To: [Yahoo! #271] Re: Just joined the club Date: 1/2/00 10:06 am (ET) Yes, Haley Joel Osment is a delightful little boy and a very good actor. However, he is just not Harry Potter. But don't worry about the film's prospective audience. With the publicity it's already getting, and with kids going to see it 3 and 4 times, I'm sure it will do just fine. From delysa2u at yahoo.com Sun Jan 2 17:46:00 2000 From: delysa2u at yahoo.com (delysa2u at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:46:00 -0500 Subject: Just joined the club Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C273 From: delysa2u Subject: Re: Just joined the club Reply To: [Yahoo! #272] Re: Just joined the club Date: 1/2/00 12:46 pm (ET) I have to agree with jeralynks. The books are soooo popular it doesn't matter who they cast. Look at Willy Wonka, does anyone know who any of those kids are? But it didn't matter one bit that you didn't. I hope they stick to the British casting and do it true to the book. They can cast some of the adult charactors with famous Brits and it will be more "American friendly". I'm still really pushing for Tim Curry as Snape. Brenda Blethen as Ron's Mom. Robbie Coltrane as Mr. Dursley. Helen Mirren, Amanda Richardson, Eric Idle, John Cleese, etc. Get my drift? <grin> Debbie {:O) From angelx_ph at yahoo.com Sun Jan 2 17:54:00 2000 From: angelx_ph at yahoo.com (angelx_ph at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:54:00 -0500 Subject: Other casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C274 From: angelx_ph Subject: Other casting Date: 1/2/00 12:54 pm (ET) Here are some of my other casting ideas: Madame Hooch - Brenda Blethyn Professor McGonagall - Miranda Richardson (or Kristin Scott Thomas) Snape - Rupert Everett Quirrell - Martin Short From angelx_ph at yahoo.com Sun Jan 2 18:06:00 2000 From: angelx_ph at yahoo.com (angelx_ph at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 13:06:00 -0500 Subject: Paperback??? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C275 From: angelx_ph Subject: Paperback??? Date: 1/2/00 1:06 pm (ET) I'm down to the last two chapters which I'll probably finish tomorrow. I can believe it. I read 15 chapters in less than two days. I have the paperback copy of the first book. I couldn't find the paperback versions of the other two books. Hardcover is a lot more expensive than paperback and I'm too much of a cheapskate to buy those. So I was just wondering if paperback versions of those two books are already released there in the US or UK. It's not yet available in my country. P.S. I respect your opinions and I know I'm just new to the novel, not yet having finished the first one yet, but I still think Haley Joel Osment could, with a little prosthetics and a dialect coach, pull off the role of Harry well. (If you saw "Bogus", you'd probably think the same way). From superfreak_14_2000 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 2 23:18:00 2000 From: superfreak_14_2000 at yahoo.com (superfreak_14_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 18:18:00 -0500 Subject: Hi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C276 From: superfreak_14_2000 Subject: Hi Date: 1/2/00 6:18 pm (ET) Would everyone please join my sister's club she needs members the site is http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/macisharrypotterclub Thanks, Eric From chiapet_22 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 05:22:00 2000 From: chiapet_22 at yahoo.com (chiapet_22 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 00:22:00 -0500 Subject: I have a question Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C277 From: chiapet_22 Subject: I have a question Date: 1/3/00 12:22 am (ET) I was wondering, If ravenclaw's mascot is a raven gryffindor's is a gryffin slythrin is a snake What is hufflepuffs mascot? And another thing, someone ought to start a harry potter movie club. Since there are so many peeps out there waiting for the movie to come out. And so many of you are always disagreeing on who should play what ect.. Well Anyways happy newyear From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 06:38:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 01:38:00 -0500 Subject: If BABE can make it so can Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C278 From: norevoli Subject: If BABE can make it so can Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #275] Paperback??? Date: 1/3/00 1:38 am (ET) I see you've got this total fling for Osment huh? But everyone of course is entitled to there own opinions. I think that the one thing that will make or break this movie most is the critics --like Ebert and that new girl... Seagal? If you're woried about a widened audience the publicity and the good feed back from critics will more than likely make the film popular enough to see. I mean How did BABE make it? as far as I know... we here in canada have 2 and 3 in hard cover... but i know the states have a different cover, i thought maybe 2 and 3 were paper back in that version. From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 06:43:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 01:43:00 -0500 Subject: Other casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C279 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Other casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #274] Other casting Date: 1/3/00 1:43 am (ET) Rupert Everett..that's the guy from My Best Friend's Wedding and Inspector Gadget right... Well, I can really see him as Snape... I figured Snape to be older with a really big nose... Rupert's not conniving and sly and irritatingly pompous enough Martin Short? him... if he would be anyone, I'd pick him to be little Flitwick or even Dobby's voice...( I know we're suppose to be thinking brit stars but martin is canadian and I think he's so funny=) From angelx_ph at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 09:19:00 2000 From: angelx_ph at yahoo.com (angelx_ph at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 04:19:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter---computer animated??? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C280 From: angelx_ph Subject: Harry Potter---computer animated??? Date: 1/3/00 4:19 am (ET) I read a rumour that Steven Spielberg would make the "Harry Potter" movie in computer animation a la "Toy Story" and "A Bug's Life". Personally, a live-action film would be better (if "Harry Potter" was made as a live action movie, the amount of computer graphics, blue screen digital shots, animatronics and prothetic makeup would rival that of "Star Wars") . Oh, guys, I finally finished my first "Harry Potter" book, it was fantastic. I'm definitely gonna buy the rest. From Skimble7 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 14:53:00 2000 From: Skimble7 at yahoo.com (Skimble7 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 09:53:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter---computer animated??? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C281 From: Skimble7 Subject: Re: Harry Potter---computer animated??? Reply To: [Yahoo! #280] Harry Potter---computer animated??? Date: 1/3/00 9:53 am (ET) Angel, Spielberg's GGI was Jurassic Park and Lost World. Pixar did Toy Story and Bugs Life. :^) From Skimble7 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 14:54:00 2000 From: Skimble7 at yahoo.com (Skimble7 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 09:54:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter---computer animated??? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C282 From: Skimble7 Subject: Re: Harry Potter---computer animated??? Reply To: [Yahoo! #281] Re: Harry Potter---computer animated??? Date: 1/3/00 9:54 am (ET) Oops. Typo. Should be CGI (Computer Generated Imagery) From Skimble7 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 15:06:00 2000 From: Skimble7 at yahoo.com (Skimble7 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 10:06:00 -0500 Subject: Ok Ok Ok Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C283 From: Skimble7 Subject: Re: Ok Ok Ok Reply To: [Yahoo! #247] Re: Ok Ok Ok Date: 1/3/00 10:06 am (ET) No to the tattoo. I used lipstick and it looked really great. Steven went with the picture on the cover of "Sorcerer's Stone" so he wore a striped rugby shirt, jeans and sneakers. I sewed a scarlet quiditch cape and we found a broom at Jo-Annes Fabrics that actually had twigs instead of straw. We made an owl cage from a cardboard box and I printed out a photo of a snowy owl on the PC and mounted it on cardboard and in the cage. Oh, and we bought the "nerd" glasses at party store and drilled out the lenses. He looked great. From jeralynks at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 16:05:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 11:05:00 -0500 Subject: Steven's costume Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C284 From: jeralynks Subject: Re: Steven's costume Reply To: [Yahoo! #283] Re: Ok Ok Ok Date: 1/3/00 11:05 am (ET) Very clever! From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 21:12:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 16:12:00 -0500 Subject: Ok Ok Ok Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C285 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Ok Ok Ok Reply To: [Yahoo! #283] Re: Ok Ok Ok Date: 1/3/00 4:12 pm (ET) maybe next year after i've finished the book with my brothers and sisters I'll get them to do the same... except I think my sister wood prefer to be ginny or hermione =) btw .... how do you pronouce Hermione? Her-Me-On? that's how i say it From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Jan 3 21:16:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 16:16:00 -0500 Subject: Next book Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C286 From: norevoli Subject: Next book Date: 1/3/00 4:16 pm (ET) Back some time ago, someone said they heard a rumor about the name of the next Harry Potter book... what was it? norevoli From itm55 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 00:11:00 2000 From: itm55 at yahoo.com (itm55 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 19:11:00 -0500 Subject: Ok Ok Ok Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C287 From: itm55 Subject: Re: Ok Ok Ok Reply To: [Yahoo! #285] Re: Ok Ok Ok Date: 1/3/00 7:11 pm (ET) I think it's Her-mi-o-ne pronounced with long vowel sounds on the 2nd, 3rd and 4th syllable From Amenhotep7 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 02:49:00 2000 From: Amenhotep7 at yahoo.com (Amenhotep7 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:49:00 -0500 Subject: Next book Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C288 From: Amenhotep7 Subject: Re: Next book Reply To: [Yahoo! #286] Next book Date: 1/3/00 9:49 pm (ET) Supposedly it's called "Harry Potter and the Doomspell Tournament". From chiapet_22 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 02:57:00 2000 From: chiapet_22 at yahoo.com (chiapet_22 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 21:57:00 -0500 Subject: All you Harry Potter buffs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C289 From: chiapet_22 Subject: All you Harry Potter buffs Date: 1/3/00 9:57 pm (ET) What is hufflepuffs mascot? I know the rest but im unsure of hufflepuffs. Help me out here From delysa2u at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 17:43:00 2000 From: delysa2u at yahoo.com (delysa2u at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 12:43:00 -0500 Subject: Most fascinating Woman Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C290 From: delysa2u Subject: Most fascinating Woman Date: 1/4/00 12:43 pm (ET) JK Rowling was named one of the most fascinating women of the year by the Ladies Home Journal (hmph, like WE didn't already know that, LOL). I haven't seen the magazine but they had the tv show on last nite and had a really nice (short) interview with her. I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to post it, I didn't know she was on it until I was already watching it. She was in there with Jodie Foster, Aretha(!!!) Franklin, Mia Hamm, Susan Sarandon and some others. WooHoo!! From Skimble7 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 18:13:00 2000 From: Skimble7 at yahoo.com (Skimble7 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 13:13:00 -0500 Subject: Ok Ok Ok Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C291 From: Skimble7 Subject: Re: Ok Ok Ok Reply To: [Yahoo! #287] Re: Ok Ok Ok Date: 1/4/00 1:13 pm (ET) When we saw J.K. Rowlings on Donnie and Marie, she said "the proper pronunciation is Her-my-nee. From Skimble7 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 18:21:00 2000 From: Skimble7 at yahoo.com (Skimble7 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 13:21:00 -0500 Subject: The Henson Angle... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C292 From: Skimble7 Subject: Re: The Henson Angle... Reply To: [Yahoo! #253] Re: The Henson Angle... Date: 1/4/00 1:21 pm (ET) Sadly Henson and/or The Monster Shop will be unable to do anything with Harry due to the fact that they are owned by Disney. Warner Bros. and Disney get along about as well as a lighted match and gasoline. The reason I say "Sadly" is because my son and I agree that with a dye job on the hair...The Ghost of Christmas Present from Muppets Christmas Carol, would be the perfect Hagrid. From general_kargin at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 19:21:00 2000 From: general_kargin at yahoo.com (general_kargin at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 14:21:00 -0500 Subject: Hello! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C293 From: general_kargin Subject: Hello! Date: 1/4/00 2:21 pm (ET) Greetings and thanks for being part of this club! True it may be that I am only 15, but I tire of talking to the same group of people about Harry Potter. I'd like to have a variety in the types of people that I speak to and would appreciate it if everyone here would not criticize me for my views on things and for my being 15. Well, if anyone would like to talk to me, I'm here and I have Yahoo Messenger that I'm often on. From jrobertm at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 19:53:00 2000 From: jrobertm at yahoo.com (jrobertm at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 14:53:00 -0500 Subject: The Henson Angle... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C294 From: jrobertm Subject: Re: The Henson Angle... Reply To: [Yahoo! #292] Re: The Henson Angle... Date: 1/4/00 2:53 pm (ET) Original message: Sadly Henson and/or The Monster Shop will be unable to do anything with Harry due to the fact that they are owned by Disney. Warner Bros. and Disney get along about as well as a lighted match and gasoline. Reply to: Actually Henson (I believe) is only partially owned by Disney and the rest is still owned by the Henson family. I'm not sure who has the controlling power, but the possibility is still there. From suvwi at yahoo.com Tue Jan 4 20:40:00 2000 From: suvwi at yahoo.com (suvwi at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 15:40:00 -0500 Subject: Howdy Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C295 From: SuvwI Subject: Howdy Date: 1/4/00 3:40 pm (ET) I thought I would say hello since I just joined. It is nice to find some intelligent discussion. I love the idea of casting Michael Clarke Duncan as Hagrid. And not to be picky he is well over 6 feet. About 6'5" or so I think. He has been in other movies, the one that comes to mind is Armageddon, he played Bear. Looking forward to more conversation! Megan From b_drey at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 00:27:00 2000 From: b_drey at yahoo.com (b_drey at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 19:27:00 -0500 Subject: Happy New Year/ Welcome/Chat Time Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C296 From: b_drey Subject: Happy New Year/ Welcome/Chat Time Date: 1/4/00 7:27 pm (ET) I just wanted to welcome all our new members and to wish everyone a belated happy New Year! I also wanted to remind you that a regular chat time has been scheduled every Friday night at 9:00 pm, USA Eastern Standard Time (e.g., New York or Boston time). Usually, there will not be an "MC", but anyone is welcome to join and start chatting about whatever grabs his/her fancy. Don't forget that our chat room is available at any time for any club members to chat. I haven't tried the "live voice" option, but it seems to be there! Anyone can schedule a chat time. Finally, let me know if there would be a better time/day for a scheduled chat. Barbara From norevoli at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 01:52:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 20:52:00 -0500 Subject: All you Harry Potter buffs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C297 From: norevoli Subject: Re: All you Harry Potter buffs Reply To: [Yahoo! #289] All you Harry Potter buffs Date: 1/4/00 8:52 pm (ET) I believe that the hufflepuff mascot is an eagle (according pg 30.. if you have the UK version of the Philosopher's Stone... its in the chapter "Letters from No one" and its mentioned just after Harry reads the address on his first letter) From norevoli at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 01:57:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 20:57:00 -0500 Subject: How do you pronounce Hermione Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C298 From: norevoli Subject: How do you pronounce Hermione Reply To: [Yahoo! #291] Re: Ok Ok Ok Date: 1/4/00 8:57 pm (ET) Her-my-nee? why is there an O in it then? That's gonna take alittle getting used to. Your sure about that Skimble7? How does everyone else pronounce it? From b_drey at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 03:20:00 2000 From: b_drey at yahoo.com (b_drey at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 22:20:00 -0500 Subject: How do you pronounce Hermione Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C299 From: b_drey Subject: Re: How do you pronounce Hermione Reply To: [Yahoo! #298] How do you pronounce Hermione Date: 1/4/00 10:20 pm (ET) It's pronounced: her - MY - oh - knee with the emphasis on the 2nd syllable. B. From delysa2u at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 05:06:00 2000 From: delysa2u at yahoo.com (delysa2u at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 00:06:00 -0500 Subject: How do you pronounce Hermione Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C300 From: delysa2u Subject: Re: How do you pronounce Hermione Reply To: [Yahoo! #299] Re: How do you pronounce Hermione Date: 1/5/00 12:06 am (ET) Yep, that's how JK told Rosie O'Donnell it was pronounced. I still like Hermie-One, kinda like Obi-wan...LOL. Debbie {:O) From norevoli at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 06:04:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 01:04:00 -0500 Subject: How do you pronounce Hermione Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C301 From: norevoli Subject: Re: How do you pronounce Hermione Reply To: [Yahoo! #300] Re: How do you pronounce Hermione Date: 1/5/00 1:04 am (ET) Her-My-Oh-knee? okay... I was thinking that it may sound like "harmony" but weirdish like... its good to know... thank you for your help =) From norevoli at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 06:06:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 01:06:00 -0500 Subject: a little memory jog Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C302 From: norevoli Subject: a little memory jog Date: 1/5/00 1:06 am (ET) when is the new book coming out? July 2000? where is it coming out at that date? sorry... I forget alot =) From jeralynks at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 14:27:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 09:27:00 -0500 Subject: a little memory jog Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C303 From: jeralynks Subject: Re: a little memory jog Reply To: [Yahoo! #302] a little memory jog Date: 1/5/00 9:27 am (ET) The book is being released both in the UK and the US on July 8th this year. An extremely long wait for all of us who are big Harry buffs! And it's definitely her MY oh knee - just like the actress Hermione Gingold. Jeralyn From Skimble7 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 17:12:00 2000 From: Skimble7 at yahoo.com (Skimble7 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 12:12:00 -0500 Subject: How do you pronounce Hermione Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C304 From: Skimble7 Subject: Re: How do you pronounce Hermione Reply To: [Yahoo! #298] How do you pronounce Hermione Date: 1/5/00 12:12 pm (ET) That's how the English pronounce it. So does my mother. There was an old newspaper columnist back in the 40's whose name was Hermoine Gingold(sp?) and that's how she pronounced her name. From crazee85264 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 5 21:52:00 2000 From: crazee85264 at yahoo.com (crazee85264 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 16:52:00 -0500 Subject: Blimey!!!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C305 From: crazee85264 Subject: Blimey!!!!! Date: 1/5/00 4:52 pm (ET) Again! What the heck is hufflepuffs mascot? An elephant, mabey???? Curiosity killed the cat! From norevoli at yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 02:39:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 21:39:00 -0500 Subject: Blimey!!!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C306 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Blimey!!!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #305] Blimey!!!!! Date: 1/5/00 9:39 pm (ET) An eagle From jeralynks at yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 02:53:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 21:53:00 -0500 Subject: Blimey!!!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C307 From: jeralynks Subject: Re: Blimey!!!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #306] Re: Blimey!!!!! Date: 1/5/00 9:53 pm (ET) Actually, I believe it was a badger. ...Harry saw a purple wax seal bearing a coat of arms; a lion, an eagle, a badger, and a snake... We know that Gryffindor is a griffon. The lion would represent the griffon. Ravenclaw's is a raven. The only bird is the eagle, so we can eliminate that. Slytherin is the snake, as we all know, so by process of elimination, that would leave the badger , or something similar, as the animal representing Hufflepuff. I really have too much time on my hands. Jeralyn From general_kargin at yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 12:40:00 2000 From: general_kargin at yahoo.com (general_kargin at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 07:40:00 -0500 Subject: How do you pronounce Hermione Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C308 From: general_kargin Subject: Re: How do you pronounce Hermione Reply To: [Yahoo! #304] Re: How do you pronounce Hermione Date: 1/6/00 7:40 am (ET) Also in the audio tapes for the Harry Potter books, they pronounce "Hermione" as "Hermonie". From Misswingz_54 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 14:43:00 2000 From: Misswingz_54 at yahoo.com (Misswingz_54 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 09:43:00 -0500 Subject: "Amusing Story" Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C309 From: Misswingz_54 Subject: "Amusing Story" Date: 1/6/00 9:43 am (ET) As I've posted before I have a 9 yr old that I share Harry with. I also have a set of 14 yr old B/G twins who are freshmen in high school. Yesturday the Girl twin came home and said, The choral instructor asked them if anyone was reading "Harry Potter" of course it wouldn't be cool to admit that your reading Harry Potter as a freshman. But, my daughter had no trouble raising her hand to say, I'm not but, my mom is. (I think she thought she might get a laugh) When the teacher said to them, I bought the books for my son for Christmas and I can't put them down. She told them her husbund kept telling her to shut the light off and go to sleep during Christmas break.I thought it was a rather amusing story and wanted to share it. And thanks for asking how to pronounce Miss Grangers name. Chelsey and I haven't pronounced it the same way twice. From Misswingz_54 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 15:22:00 2000 From: Misswingz_54 at yahoo.com (Misswingz_54 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 10:22:00 -0500 Subject: "FYI" Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C310 From: Misswingz_54 Subject: "FYI" Date: 1/6/00 10:22 am (ET) Tomorrow on the "Donny and Marie Show" at 9:00a.m. central, J.K. Rowling will be a guest. It's a rerun but, if you didn't get to see it the first time here's your chance. From delysa2u at yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 16:43:00 2000 From: delysa2u at yahoo.com (delysa2u at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 11:43:00 -0500 Subject: 2 Potter things from SciFi website: Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C311 From: delysa2u Subject: 2 Potter things from SciFi website: Date: 1/6/00 11:43 am (ET) Potter Author On 10 Best List It's magic: J.K. Rowling, author of the popular Harry Potter series of young adult novels, was cited as one of "10 people who mattered" in 1999 by Time magazine. Rowling was a runner-up in the magazine's annual competition for "Person of the Year." "The idea came to the aspiring author in 1990 during a train ride from Manchester to London," Time reported. "It involved a young orphan who discovers he is a wizard, then is whisked away from his cruel aunt and uncle to be schooled in the use of his magical powers. This year that inspiration produced a publishing wonder: three novels about Harry Potter that keep crowding the top three spots on the fiction best-seller lists. ... "J.K. Rowling, who lives in Edinburgh, Scotland,has four more Harry Potters planned," Time said. "Her readers, young and old, are clearing more bookshelf space now." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spielberg Gets Peek At Potter Script Warner Bros. last week gave Steven Spielberg an exclusive peek at its 138-page first draft script for the feature film version of J.K. Rowling's popular Harry Potter young adult novel series. Spielberg is still mulling whether to take on the Harry Potter movie, SF thriller Minority Report, or A.I., which Spielberg is writing based on a treatment by the late Stanley Kubrick, according to Variety. Spielberg will likely meet in early January with Potter screenwriter Steve Kloves and Warner executives to discuss the project. It's possible that Spielberg, who once argued for a computer-animated version of the Potter books, would choose to act as producer rather than direct the film. Other directors under consideration for the Potter movie are Robert Zemeckis, Jonathan Demme, Brad Silberling, Rob Reiner, Mike Newell and Tim Robbins. Just thought you all would like to see these. Debbie {:O) From Skimble7 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 18:05:00 2000 From: Skimble7 at yahoo.com (Skimble7 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 13:05:00 -0500 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C312 From: Skimble7 Subject: Re: Reply To: [Yahoo! #310] "FYI" Date: 1/6/00 1:05 pm (ET) Any of you that questioned the pronunciation of Hermoine....watch this one. It will solve the mystery. :^) From mrslibrarian at yahoo.com Thu Jan 6 22:39:00 2000 From: mrslibrarian at yahoo.com (mrslibrarian at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 17:39:00 -0500 Subject: Paperback??? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C313 From: mrslibrarian Subject: Re: Paperback??? Reply To: [Yahoo! #275] Paperback??? Date: 1/6/00 5:39 pm (ET) I haven't seen Bogus or Sixth Sense so can't comment on Haley Joel Osment. Re the paperback question, books 1 and 2 are out in paperback in the UK, book 3 is still only hardback here. I have no ideas about the release dates for paperbacks in the US, I suggest you contact Scholastic. :) From smitster1 at yahoo.com Sun Jan 9 07:33:00 2000 From: smitster1 at yahoo.com (smitster1 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 02:33:00 -0500 Subject: Spielberg Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C314 From: smitster1 Subject: Re: Spielberg Reply To: [Yahoo! #254] Spielberg Date: 1/9/00 2:33 am (ET) I've always imagined Tim Burton handling a Harry Potter motion picture. For reference, Burton has worked on 'Sleepy Hollow,' 'Beetlejuice,' 'Batman,' 'Edward Scissorhands,' and 'The Nightmare Before Christmas.' From musicmonk at yahoo.com Sun Jan 9 11:13:00 2000 From: musicmonk at yahoo.com (musicmonk at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 06:13:00 -0500 Subject: HP Movie/Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C315 From: musicmonk Subject: HP Movie/Casting Date: 1/9/00 6:13 am (ET) Hi! I'm currently reading the first HP book and I'm already hooked. For the movie, personally I hope Spielberg does it. Not only because Spielberg is an incredible director with a great vision, but it would also mean that John Williams (Star Wars, Jaws, Superman, Jurassic Park) would probably do the score as they almost always work as a team...and that would be amazing! Williams would give Harry Potter a famous music theme to go along with everything else it has going for it. As I'm reading, so far here's what I've come up with for who I would cast for the roles. You can disagree of course, this is my own personal opinion: Hagrid - while he physically wouldn't look the part, I can't help but hear Sean Connery's voice when I read Hagrid's speech. Costuming can do a lot though. Then again Mike Myers as Fat Bastard could do it too, right? Ha ha! Professor McGonagall - Angelica Huston (Morticia Addams from the Addams Family, also the evil stepmother in "Ever After"). She'd have sternness down pat. Albus Dumbledore - Christopher Lloyd ("Doc" from Back to the Future: Great Scot!!!) Professor Snape - can't remember his name but the guy who played the evil English King in Braveheart. All the kids are hard to cast because there aren't any famous kid actors I can recall easily(besides the kid from Sixth Sense who was superb...but I don't see him as Harry Potter). Well that's what I've come up with so far. Anyone else have ideas? From jeralynks at yahoo.com Sun Jan 9 20:33:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 15:33:00 -0500 Subject: Prof. Snape Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C316 From: jeralynks Subject: Prof. Snape Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #315] HP Movie/Casting Date: 1/9/00 3:33 pm (ET) I'm not sure if I'm just repeating something that I read in a previous post or if I'm being original, but has anyone else ever thought about casting Christopher Walken or Gary Oldman as Snape? Personally, my preference is Walken. He is just so good when he's playing a sinister character. From delysa2u at yahoo.com Mon Jan 10 01:56:00 2000 From: delysa2u at yahoo.com (delysa2u at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 20:56:00 -0500 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C317 From: delysa2u Subject: Casting Date: 1/9/00 8:56 pm (ET) I give up. Let's just Americanize the whole thing. I'm sure there's a role for Jim Carrey in there somewhere. From nyias at yahoo.com Mon Jan 10 03:08:00 2000 From: nyias at yahoo.com (nyias at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 22:08:00 -0500 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C318 From: nyias Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #317] Casting Date: 1/9/00 10:08 pm (ET) But Jim Carrey is... Canadian, isn't he? nyias From musicmonk at yahoo.com Mon Jan 10 04:02:00 2000 From: musicmonk at yahoo.com (musicmonk at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2000 23:02:00 -0500 Subject: Prof. Snape Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C319 From: musicmonk Subject: Re: Prof. Snape Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #316] Prof. Snape Casting Date: 1/9/00 11:02 pm (ET) I can definitely see Walken as Snape. Good pick! From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Jan 10 18:46:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:46:00 -0500 Subject: Prof. Snape Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C320 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Prof. Snape Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #316] Prof. Snape Casting Date: 1/10/00 1:46 pm (ET) Who is christopher walken? From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Jan 10 18:48:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 13:48:00 -0500 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C321 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #317] Casting Date: 1/10/00 1:48 pm (ET) Jim Carey? Go canada... (sorry just alittle national pride =) hmm... who would he play... if he were younger, he'd make a good Tom Riddle. But I can't see him as anything else. From jeralynks at yahoo.com Mon Jan 10 19:08:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:08:00 -0500 Subject: Christopher Walken Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C322 From: jeralynks Subject: Christopher Walken Reply To: [Yahoo! #320] Re: Prof. Snape Casting Date: 1/10/00 2:08 pm (ET) I'm actually drawing a blank on his feature films (it's Monday - forgive me), and the only thing that is coming to mind is the film "Prophecy" in which he played the evil avenging angel. If I remember anything more, I'll post later. Unless anyone else out there can help me out...:^p From jeralynks at yahoo.com Mon Jan 10 19:33:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 14:33:00 -0500 Subject: Christopher Walken films Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C323 From: jeralynks Subject: Christopher Walken films Date: 1/10/00 2:33 pm (ET) Okay, I'm back. Here's a short list: Sleepy Hollow Blast From the Past he did a voice in Antz Mouse Hunt Suicide Kings Pulp Fiction Nick of Time Batman Returns King of New York Biloxi Blues The Dead Zone Heaven's Gate The Deer Hunter Annie Hall He almost always plays the villain or just an extremely creepy, quirky character. Hope this jogs your memory. From delysa2u at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 02:57:00 2000 From: delysa2u at yahoo.com (delysa2u at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2000 21:57:00 -0500 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C324 From: delysa2u Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #321] Re: Casting Date: 1/10/00 9:57 pm (ET) Be he American or Canadian he and everyone not British is just wrong for this, even Gwenyth who thinks she's a Brit, LOL. {:OI From angelx_ph at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 12:14:00 2000 From: angelx_ph at yahoo.com (angelx_ph at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 07:14:00 -0500 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C325 From: angelx_ph Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #324] Re: Casting Date: 1/11/00 7:14 am (ET) That's like saying British actors can't play Americans. Canadians can't play Americans. Americans can't play Canadians. Australians can't play Americans. Anthony Hopkins was wonderful as John Adams in "Amistad" so was Kate Winslet in "Titanic". They both played Americans. Russell Crowe is Australian yet he is wonderful in "L.A. Confidential" and "The Insider" (he's a lock for a Best Actor nom for the latter this year) They should base their casting decisions on ACTING ABILITY not citizenship or nationality. From delysa2u at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 13:57:00 2000 From: delysa2u at yahoo.com (delysa2u at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 08:57:00 -0500 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C326 From: delysa2u Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #325] Re: Casting Date: 1/11/00 8:57 am (ET) I never said anything of the sort. I would just like it to be authentic and believable. I've heard some outrageous suggestions for these roles, I mean come on, Danny Devito as Dursley? He doesn't even fit the description in the book! I don't think JK worked so long and hard on these only to have it go "Hollywood". And all the people you named played wonderful Americans but not many Yanks do a good Brit. From jeralynks at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 14:10:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 09:10:00 -0500 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C327 From: jeralynks Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #326] Re: Casting Date: 1/11/00 9:10 am (ET) Once again, as I've said BEFORE, WE are not casting this film. We are just having fun. There is no need for childish behavior or insulting other people's opinions. It's great to have an opinion, but not at the expense of putting someone else down. SO GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE ONCE AND FOR ALL! Okay, now that I've said it again, I hope I haven't offended anybody. From delysa2u at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 15:45:00 2000 From: delysa2u at yahoo.com (delysa2u at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 10:45:00 -0500 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C328 From: delysa2u Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #327] Re: Casting Date: 1/11/00 10:45 am (ET) Of course you have, that was your intent wasn't it? You would not have been YELLING if not. And I happen to like the view from my high horse, thank you. Good bye to the 'adult' club. I know you will be so sorry to see me go, as sorry as I am to be leaving... From jeralynks at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 16:18:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 11:18:00 -0500 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C329 From: jeralynks Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #328] Re: Casting Date: 1/11/00 11:18 am (ET) I would like to take this time to apologize to anyone else whose feeling were hurt by my expressions of my feelings. I simply felt that we should all just enjoy oursleves. After all, that's what we're here for, isn't it? And Delysa, if you're still watching the posts, there's no reason to leave, and there is no reason to change your opinion. But there is a way to get your own opinion across without knocking someone else. And in the long run, our thoughts will matter little, if at all, in the actual casting of the film. We're just fans. ;^) From musicmonk at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 18:06:00 2000 From: musicmonk at yahoo.com (musicmonk at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:06:00 -0500 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C330 From: musicmonk Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #329] Re: Casting Date: 1/11/00 1:06 pm (ET) Wow looks like a little powder keg went off in here! Yes I think we all need to just take a deep breath and remember we're just fans and this is all in good fun. I understood the point that the characters in the HP books are British and thus should not lose it's "Britannical" feel. But I wouldn't underestimate the ability of American actors to do the job. One thing that is important to remember is that Warner Bros., an American company, has purchased the rights and therefore the priority will be to sell to an American crowd. Personally I think the English accents would add to the unique flavor of the mood Rowling creates, but you never know...marketing executives often aren't too concerned with pleasing readers of the books so much as getting people in the theater (those darn Muggles! lol). The good news is that Rowling is supposed to be involved with the film so as to keep it the way she envisions it. So let's all hope! From jeralynks at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 18:16:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 13:16:00 -0500 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C331 From: jeralynks Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #330] Re: Casting Date: 1/11/00 1:16 pm (ET) Thanks, musicmonk. And being a member of the film/theatre community, I know very well that too often the original characterizations get lost in transition from novel to screen. Well, we can all hope for our own personal wishes to come true, but in the end we'll get what we get, and I'm sure we'll enjoy it immensely anyway! From norevoli at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 21:25:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 16:25:00 -0500 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C332 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #331] Re: Casting Date: 1/11/00 4:25 pm (ET) I think that the most important thing to remember here that in our own heads we read with our own accents. So maybe when Harry speaks in my head he doesn't have even the slightest brit accent whatsoever, so what? I think that we're starting to get over boiled alittle... don't you all just wish that fourth book would come out! I think that all this worrying will get us nowhere. JK is an accomplished writer and I think she can handle the enterprise just fine. You'll all see that the movie will turn out wonderful... guaranteed! From crazee85264 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 12 04:59:00 2000 From: crazee85264 at yahoo.com (crazee85264 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2000 23:59:00 -0500 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C333 From: crazee85264 Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #332] Re: Casting Date: 1/11/00 11:59 pm (ET) I Agree with you on that one. This club has really mostly been about The Harry Potter Movie rather than Harry Potter the books. I think we have all been so caught up in this movie hype we are forgeting that J.K is the one who made Harry Potter and she more or less intended him to be a literary figure rather than a movie icon. From jeralynks at yahoo.com Wed Jan 12 13:58:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 08:58:00 -0500 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C334 From: jeralynks Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #333] Re: Casting Date: 1/12/00 8:58 am (ET) Amen. From norevoli at yahoo.com Thu Jan 13 03:19:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 22:19:00 -0500 Subject: just pondering =) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C335 From: norevoli Subject: just pondering =) Date: 1/12/00 10:19 pm (ET) I was just thinking about the books again and how appealing they are. They seem to have the ability to entice the reader to read more and more and more. I don't know if its the wording that JK puts into it or the characters themselves. I think that its just the fact that this wizarding world is a means to get away from reality. And the mentor, Dumbledore, makes it even more special. How many of us have wanted someone like that to look up to? And even though Harry is able to get away from the wicked Dursley's 10 months in the year, he comes back. And although he blows up his aunt or threatens or even thinks of doing evil things to them... it never really happens unless he loses his temper, his control. I think that's the best part about it, how it shows us to be patient in times of turmoil. And that's difficult to do when you're only a kid! Sorry, sometimes I like to get my stupid thoughts on paper. thanx for reading Nor From musicmonk at yahoo.com Thu Jan 13 04:28:00 2000 From: musicmonk at yahoo.com (musicmonk at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2000 23:28:00 -0500 Subject: just pondering =) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C336 From: musicmonk Subject: Re: just pondering =) Reply To: [Yahoo! #335] just pondering =) Date: 1/12/00 11:28 pm (ET) Hello Nor, No need to apologize for your thoughts: they were very good ones! Also, we needed to get back on track and talk about the books rather than the movie anyway. I think that the appeal of Harry Potter for the grown up is for all the reasons you listed: a good writing style (that isn't "dumbed down" for a child), interesting characters (interesting to say the least!), and the escape from the stress of the real world. Many people (Muggles essentially) put down escaping into fantasy, but I disagree with that opinion. In fact I think that adults may have more of a need for fantasy than a child, because being able to escape for a little while refreshes us mentally, spiritually, and even physically (tension is bad for the body, too!). It's this return to innocence and childhood wonder that I as a "grown-up" (well I'm only 22, but you'd be surprised in this day and age how much childhood is eradicated from a person that soon) am strongly drawn to the HP books. What do you all think? From jeralynks at yahoo.com Thu Jan 13 15:51:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 10:51:00 -0500 Subject: just pondering =) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C337 From: jeralynks Subject: Re: just pondering =) Reply To: [Yahoo! #336] Re: just pondering =) Date: 1/13/00 10:51 am (ET) I definitely agree that adults need more of a fantasy life. Kids already have it. They know how to play and imagine, and they don't have to work at it. I think a lot adults need to get over their inhibitions and remember what it was like to be able to enjoy playing make-believe. Being a kid was a very magical time when everything was possible. And I think that's why so many adults are enjoying Harry Potter so much. It helps us remember the joy of being a child when we could fly! (Does this make any sense?) ;^) From musicmonk at yahoo.com Thu Jan 13 18:08:00 2000 From: musicmonk at yahoo.com (musicmonk at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 13:08:00 -0500 Subject: just pondering =) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C338 From: musicmonk Subject: Re: just pondering =) Reply To: [Yahoo! #337] Re: just pondering =) Date: 1/13/00 1:08 pm (ET) It makes perfect sense. :) From norevoli at yahoo.com Thu Jan 13 19:27:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 14:27:00 -0500 Subject: just pondering =) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C339 From: norevoli Subject: Re: just pondering =) Reply To: [Yahoo! #336] Re: just pondering =) Date: 1/13/00 2:27 pm (ET) Musicmonk, I really do agree about how adults need to escape reality more than children do. I think society is built so that we learn not to imagine, or pretend, only to see what we have in front of our limited vision. But I have always found that the creative people, the extraordinary multi-talented people spend a lot of time wondering and imagining. Have you ever read this short story called "the secret life of walter mitty"? It totally deal with escape from reality like HP does. The ironic thing that even though they have that escape they always end up back to where they were escaping from (like Harry going back to the Dursley's every summer=0 ) But I guess even though that irony is there, it's still nice to know have the choice I am I going alittle weird on you ? Nor From jeralynks at yahoo.com Thu Jan 13 23:11:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2000 18:11:00 -0500 Subject: ??? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C340 From: jeralynks Subject: ??? Date: 1/13/00 6:11 pm (ET) Hey, I think I've got a new question. It may be silly, but exactly how do you pronounce Ms. Rowling's last name? I've heard it both as row-ling (as in to row a boat) and as rowl-ing (the ow as in owl). Does anyone know for sure which is correct? From janey_13 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 14 14:07:00 2000 From: janey_13 at yahoo.com (janey_13 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 09:07:00 -0500 Subject: ??? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C341 From: janey_13 Subject: Re: ??? Reply To: [Yahoo! #340] ??? Date: 1/14/00 9:07 am (ET) I heard that it is purnounced like "rolling". But I could be wrong. :) From Skimble7 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 14 16:33:00 2000 From: Skimble7 at yahoo.com (Skimble7 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 11:33:00 -0500 Subject: ??? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C342 From: Skimble7 Subject: Re: ??? Reply To: [Yahoo! #341] Re: ??? Date: 1/14/00 11:33 am (ET) According to J.K. herself...it is pronounced Rolling. In the interview posted on the web site of her British publisher, she states that kids used to sing the "Rawhide" theme song when she walked down the halls of the school she taught at. You know..."Rollin', rollin', rollin'..." From Skimble7 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 14 19:00:00 2000 From: Skimble7 at yahoo.com (Skimble7 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 14:00:00 -0500 Subject: ??? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C343 From: Skimble7 Subject: Re: ??? Reply To: [Yahoo! #340] ??? Date: 1/14/00 2:00 pm (ET) A quick follow-up on my previous post. Here is the URL http://www.okukbooks.com/harry/rowling.htm She makes numerous references in this interview (read Part 1 and Part 2) to the pronunciation of her name. From jeralynks at yahoo.com Fri Jan 14 20:36:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 15:36:00 -0500 Subject: !!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C344 From: jeralynks Subject: !!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #343] Re: ??? Date: 1/14/00 3:36 pm (ET) Thanks, Skimble! ;^P From mystril at yahoo.com Mon Jan 17 23:42:00 2000 From: mystril at yahoo.com (mystril at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 18:42:00 -0500 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C345 From: Mystril Subject: Other books Date: 1/17/00 6:42 pm (ET) So what other books should a "grown up" Harry Potter fan read? My (so far short) list so far is: Wrinkle in Time (L'Engle) So You Want to be a Wizard (Duane) The Golden Compass (Pullman) Grown up stuff: Tolkien, Charles de Lint, Neil Gaiman. That's all I can think about off the top of my head. Additional suggestions? From jeralynks at yahoo.com Tue Jan 18 00:26:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:26:00 -0500 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C346 From: jeralynks Subject: Re: Other books Reply To: [Yahoo! #345] Other books Date: 1/17/00 7:26 pm (ET) Some of my favorites include "A Wrinkle in Time" as well. Also: CS Lewis' Narnia Chronicles The Lord of the Rings Trilogy Roald Dahl's Willy Wonka Series Lewis Carroll's Alice stories Stuff for grownups: "Wicked" - by Gregory Maguire (it's a take on The Wizard of Oz from the witch's point of view) "Good Omens" - Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchitt - I laughed out loud when I was reading it. and "Bring Me the Head of Prince Charming", "A Farce to Be Reckoned With", and "If at Faust You Don't Succeed" - 3 books by Roger Zelazny and Robert Sheckley - all very funny. Also - Orson Scott Card's "Ender's Game" - an absolutely fabulous book. And my favorite book of all time (and I read EVERYTHING) A Prayer for Owen Meany by John Irving. Try a few and let me know what you think. ;^) From nlpnt at yahoo.com Tue Jan 18 00:39:00 2000 From: nlpnt at yahoo.com (nlpnt at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:39:00 -0500 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C347 From: nlpnt Subject: Re: Other books Reply To: [Yahoo! #346] Re: Other books Date: 1/17/00 7:39 pm (ET) I liked Owen Meany, too- the movie of that (Simon Birch) was a real disappointment. Especially since they cut the Volkswagen-on-the-stairs part! From jeralynks at yahoo.com Tue Jan 18 00:56:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 19:56:00 -0500 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C348 From: jeralynks Subject: Re: Other books Reply To: [Yahoo! #347] Re: Other books Date: 1/17/00 7:56 pm (ET) I realize that everyone is going to gasp in horror, but that is one of the reasons I'm starting to have mixed feelings about this wonderful, magical book being made into a film. Owen Meany was, and still is, my favorite book. I was so excited when Simon Birch came out. But the film just didn't do the story justice. And with Harry, I have the most wonderful images in my imagination, and I KNOW that nothing will ever compare. So for now, I'm just waiting for the next installment to come out so I can lengthen the film I've created in my mind. What do other people think? From mystril at yahoo.com Tue Jan 18 02:24:00 2000 From: mystril at yahoo.com (mystril at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:24:00 -0500 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C349 From: Mystril Subject: Re: Other books Reply To: [Yahoo! #348] Re: Other books Date: 1/17/00 9:24 pm (ET) Rumor has it that Spielberg is going to direct it, which gives me faith that it will be good. Different, but good in its own way. I actually think the film will be terrible (like Simon Birch), but it can't be as wonderful as the books are. I feel the same way about the Lord of the Rings films they're making in Australia now. From general_kargin at yahoo.com Tue Jan 18 03:27:00 2000 From: general_kargin at yahoo.com (general_kargin at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 22:27:00 -0500 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C350 From: general_kargin Subject: Re: Other books Reply To: [Yahoo! #348] Re: Other books Date: 1/17/00 10:27 pm (ET) I agree with jeralynks, I don't really want to see the movie. I've seen what's happened with other book series' and stuff, and let me just tell you, it's not good. I doubt that any of you personally have read the book series Animorphs, but most likely have a least heard of it from your children. Well, I used to read the book series and it took me a while to get convinced to watch the t.v. series they'd made for it, and when I did, it just.....ruined every image I'd had of the characters and creatures, SO, with that in mind, I'm not so sure that I want to watch the Harry Potter movie when it comes out. That's just my opinion though because I have a really good imagination (a little overactive, but that's beside the point, lol) and I'd prefer to keep the images of the characters and creatures for THIS book series as they are! Anyone else share the same view? From angelx_ph at yahoo.com Tue Jan 18 11:39:00 2000 From: angelx_ph at yahoo.com (angelx_ph at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 06:39:00 -0500 Subject: It's official: Spielberg will direct. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C351 From: angelx_ph Subject: It's official: Spielberg will direct. Date: 1/18/00 6:39 am (ET) It's official: according to the Internet Movie Database (The IMDb), Spielberg will make "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone" his next film. From angelx_ph at yahoo.com Tue Jan 18 11:39:00 2000 From: angelx_ph at yahoo.com (angelx_ph at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 06:39:00 -0500 Subject: It's official: Spielberg will direct. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C352 From: angelx_ph Subject: It's official: Spielberg will direct. Date: 1/18/00 6:39 am (ET) It's official: according to the Internet Movie Database (The IMDb), Spielberg will make "Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone" his next film. Now, I REALLY can't wait to see the movie. From Skimble7 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 18 17:34:00 2000 From: Skimble7 at yahoo.com (Skimble7 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 12:34:00 -0500 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C353 From: Skimble7 Subject: Re: Other books Reply To: [Yahoo! #350] Re: Other books Date: 1/18/00 12:34 pm (ET) I'm sure my son and I will go to see the movie but I don't have high hopes. My 15 year old daughter loved the book "I know what you did last summer" and she was totally disgusted with the screen version. But this was not the first time she had been disappointed. When she was in 5th grade, her English teacher did a project to show the kids how screenwriters take liberties. She had them read "My Side of the Mountain" and then watch the movie. It made a big impression on the kids. From tracilbell at yahoo.com Tue Jan 18 19:39:00 2000 From: tracilbell at yahoo.com (tracilbell at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 14:39:00 -0500 Subject: Spielberg etc. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C354 From: tracilbell Subject: Spielberg etc. Reply To: [Yahoo! #353] Re: Other books Date: 1/18/00 2:39 pm (ET) My Side Of The Mountain left a big impression on me as well. I had a parapalegic sister and it really hit home. I think Spielberg will do it justice, however it has been awhile since he did a kid's movie. I hated Hook, so I am hoping it will be absolutely nothing like that boring mess. I read yesterday that he wasn't sure whether it would be live action or animated. I hope it's live action. I know J.K. Rowling want's live. From hughmania at yahoo.com Tue Jan 18 21:21:00 2000 From: hughmania at yahoo.com (hughmania at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 16:21:00 -0500 Subject: Spielberg etc. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C355 From: hughmania Subject: Re: Spielberg etc. Reply To: [Yahoo! #354] Spielberg etc. Date: 1/18/00 4:21 pm (ET) Aaaaaaaargh! Hook is one of my alltime favorite movies! From norevoli at yahoo.com Tue Jan 18 22:27:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:27:00 -0500 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C356 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Other books Reply To: [Yahoo! #350] Re: Other books Date: 1/18/00 5:27 pm (ET) I really like to read books in the young readers section... I see animorphs alot an I tend to pine away from them because I thought it was just a money making thing ( I thought the show came out first not the books, so I thought they were trying to profit off of the success of the Tv show)... like those buffy the vampire slayer books. And when I did see bits and pieces of the show I didn't like it, so I classified those books in my head under the heading "waste of time". Is it really a good series? cuz if it is then may be I'll give it a try. Nor From norevoli at yahoo.com Tue Jan 18 22:29:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 17:29:00 -0500 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C357 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Other books Reply To: [Yahoo! #346] Re: Other books Date: 1/18/00 5:29 pm (ET) Jeralynks, are all those books you listed available in most coles and chapters book stores? I'm really interested! Nor From general_kargin at yahoo.com Tue Jan 18 23:06:00 2000 From: general_kargin at yahoo.com (general_kargin at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 18:06:00 -0500 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C358 From: general_kargin Subject: Re: Other books Reply To: [Yahoo! #356] Re: Other books Date: 1/18/00 6:06 pm (ET) No, don't bother reading the recent books, if you want to read some of the good ones, start at #1 and go to maybe #27, that's where I stopped cause KA Applegate started having ghostwriters by then, so they started to have it a money sucking thing by then, lol. From jeralynks at yahoo.com Wed Jan 19 00:25:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 19:25:00 -0500 Subject: Coles and Chapters Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C359 From: jeralynks Subject: Re: Coles and Chapters Reply To: [Yahoo! #357] Re: Other books Date: 1/18/00 7:25 pm (ET) Okay, for a huge reader, I think I'm about to seem very uninformed. Coles and Chapters? If I remember correctly, you're in Canada, right? (My husband and I are taking a long weekend in Quebec starting Friday BTW) and I have never heard of them. However, you can get them at any Barnes and Noble or BN.com on the web, or I'm sure you could order any of them through amazon.com, too. Good luck and enjoy! ;^) From musicmonk at yahoo.com Wed Jan 19 04:22:00 2000 From: musicmonk at yahoo.com (musicmonk at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:22:00 -0500 Subject: HP Movie vs. Book Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C360 From: musicmonk Subject: HP Movie vs. Book Date: 1/18/00 11:22 pm (ET) After reading all the posts on the upcoming HP movie, a certain theme seemed to emerge. I'll state it as it honestly sounds: "The movie is going to suck so let's hate it now." Now, of course, I know I'm exaggerating and no one here is being that vicious (and not every single person expressed this sentiment). But honestly, doesn't it look to you like "we're going to be disappointed so let's save them the trouble and do it ourselves ahead of time"? And isn't it a bit bitter, to say the least? C'mon! Don't be Muggles and expect the worst...expect the best! Granted, many filmmakers have taken liberties with books and made massacres of them--there's no denying that. But I HIGHLY doubt Spielberg would do that. Sure, maybe "Hook" wasn't as good as it could have been...but remember that Spielberg is also the man who did "E.T."! Now who here hated THAT? If you do...how could you like Harry Potter??!?! If E.T. didn't make you feel like a kid again filled with wonder, well then you missed out on something that those of us who were entranced will always treasure. Added bonus: if Spielberg directs, then John Williams will most likely do the score...and I don't know how familiar you are with JW but I'll tell you now that we could be in for the next great movie theme. John Williams also did "E.T." by the way, and you remember how it goes don't you? Maybe you'll be humming the "Harry Potter" theme soon...who knows? I guess all I'm saying is- yeah I understand that it could suck and maybe there is a reason to take it with a grain of salt, but there's also a lot to be hopeful for. Good people are going to work on this, and Rowling herself has a say (Spielberg will listen to her and respect her world--trust me, he will). So let's not kill the movie before it has a chance. And if it does stink and I was wrong...then I was wrong. Oh well. :) From musicmonk at yahoo.com Wed Jan 19 04:33:00 2000 From: musicmonk at yahoo.com (musicmonk at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 23:33:00 -0500 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C361 From: musicmonk Subject: Other books Date: 1/18/00 11:33 pm (ET) I would highly recommend the following: The Dragonlance Chronicles (it's a trilogy) by Margaret Weis & Tracy Hickman. The sequel trilogy, Legends, is even better. Definitely check them out. A new edition just came out of Chronicles, an annotated version of all three books in one. From jeralynks at yahoo.com Wed Jan 19 14:09:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:09:00 -0500 Subject: HP Movie vs. Book Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C362 From: jeralynks Subject: Re: HP Movie vs. Book Reply To: [Yahoo! #360] HP Movie vs. Book Date: 1/19/00 9:09 am (ET) Oh, I don't think the movie will suck at all! But I think that what some of us feel is that JK Rowling's imagery is so real, that we've already got the most wonderful visions in our own imaginations, and nothing can compare with that really. What I DO know, for myself anyway, is that I know I'll go see the film and be enchanted anyway! ;^) From Skimble7 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 19 14:44:00 2000 From: Skimble7 at yahoo.com (Skimble7 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:44:00 -0500 Subject: What's the deal? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C363 From: Skimble7 Subject: What's the deal? Date: 1/19/00 9:44 am (ET) Has anyone checked out harrypotterstore.com. I just got e-mail from them to order Book 4. I went to the site and I have never seen cheesier merchandise in all my life. It's an insult to Harry and J.K. in my opinion. I almost want to turn these folks in. It's bad enough we will have Harry Potter action figures in the next 18 months that will (once again) foist someone else's imagination on us and our kids but this stuff is even worse. Thank you. I'm done venting now. :^ ) From nlpnt at yahoo.com Wed Jan 19 15:43:00 2000 From: nlpnt at yahoo.com (nlpnt at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:43:00 -0500 Subject: HP Movie vs. Book Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C364 From: nlpnt Subject: Re: HP Movie vs. Book Reply To: [Yahoo! #360] HP Movie vs. Book Date: 1/19/00 10:43 am (ET) About John Williams doing the score; Musicmonk, when I was reading your post, I was humming the Star Wars theme in my head! From musicmonk at yahoo.com Wed Jan 19 19:31:00 2000 From: musicmonk at yahoo.com (musicmonk at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:31:00 -0500 Subject: HP Movie vs. Book Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C365 From: musicmonk Subject: Re: HP Movie vs. Book Reply To: [Yahoo! #364] Re: HP Movie vs. Book Date: 1/19/00 2:31 pm (ET) You mean in the sense that you were already humming it before you even knew I was going to mention John Williams? Wow, interesting. Won't it be great if he does the score to HP? From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 19 19:59:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:59:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter for Everyone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C366 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Reply To: [Yahoo! #4] Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/19/00 2:59 pm (ET) Barbara - Did you ever get an answer to your question? The reply chain seems to immediately vanish into movie discussions. At first I rejected the cliche answer that I like the books because I identified with the main character. Then as I re-read the part where Harry and Ron steal the car to get to Hogwarts, I changed my mind. Harry was caught up with the momentum into making the awful decision but at the time it seemed perfectly logical. Then confronted with his own foolishness, they felt very stupid. Who hasn't experienced something similar emotionally if not physically? The tone of the books are perfect. I read them to my daughter and she laughes in places and shivers in places as well. I just wish I was young enough to actually laugh out loud at all the same places she does. On a more theoretical basis, Harry is a classic character, the little guy, downtrodden by primal muggle forces, who finds something special within himself, that something extra we all hope to find, and triumphs against overwhelming odds. Who wouldn't like the Harry Potter books? Now if I could only find someone outside of cyberspace who has actually read the books. Stephen From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 19 20:11:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:11:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter for Me! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C367 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Harry Potter for Me! Reply To: [Yahoo! #366] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/19/00 3:11 pm (ET) You wrote: <I just wish I was young enough to actually laugh out loud at all the same places she does.> Well, I'm 35 years old and still consider myself young enough to laugh out loud. And I do! And I probably always will! From mrslibrarian at yahoo.com Wed Jan 19 22:46:00 2000 From: mrslibrarian at yahoo.com (mrslibrarian at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 17:46:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter for Everyone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C368 From: mrslibrarian Subject: Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Reply To: [Yahoo! #366] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/19/00 5:46 pm (ET) I've bought copies of all three books for our school library, and most of the time they are off the shelves (despite the fact that so many kids have their own copies anyway) but I did have one boy last week who came to me very sadly and asked if he could change it as he wasn't enjoying it. He's obviously aware that somehow the magic isn't there for him. I really felt for him! Now I'm trying to find something he will enjoy.... Diana Wynne Jones was recommended to me as 'another author to enjoy' as she writes about 'magic' characters. "Archer's Goon" was good, I haven't found any others yet. Any ideas, anyone? Nikki From mystril at yahoo.com Wed Jan 19 23:19:00 2000 From: mystril at yahoo.com (mystril at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:19:00 -0500 Subject: Salon article about HP Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C369 From: Mystril Subject: Salon article about HP Date: 1/19/00 6:19 pm (ET) I don't know the exact URL, but there's an interesting article on salon.com about the female characters in HP. I'm not sure I agreed, since I think Hermione is a good, or great, female character. Last year, when the Harry frenzy started to get into full swing, they did a few highly complimentary stories, but this one criticizes all of the female characters. From norevoli at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 00:04:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:04:00 -0500 Subject: Salon article about HP Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C370 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Salon article about HP Reply To: [Yahoo! #369] Salon article about HP Date: 1/19/00 7:04 pm (ET) I did get a chance to run through that article. But I think what she (the author) forgets is that the adventures are told through Harry. I believe there is only one scene that is not told in Harry's perspective (right before Harry is dropped off at the Dursley's door). So in some ways there should be that predominance toward the boys and the male role models. Remember that Harry is only 11-13 and is bound to be squemish about girls. The writer remarks about how although hermione is smart, she chickens out when something bad goes wrong (like the troll in the washroom incident in book one) but aren't there many scenes where Ron shows fear?... like the one with the giant spider?...Hermione is also a voice of reason when Harry is very very angry and almost revengeful at Sirius before he knew that he was innocent. but I really think that the first point I made about it being told from a boy's point of view is really what makes the difference. I really have no big insight on this but I remember when I used to be squemish about boys and all I would talk to and play with were girls, girls, girls and the men confused me in general. I think that's the reason for the predominance. From norevoli at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 00:07:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:07:00 -0500 Subject: harry potter's girl troubles article Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C371 From: norevoli Subject: harry potter's girl troubles article Date: 1/19/00 7:07 pm (ET) if anyone wants to check out that article its in www.salon.com click archives under the heading books click feature then click harry potter's girl troubles From angelx_ph at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 00:33:00 2000 From: angelx_ph at yahoo.com (angelx_ph at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:33:00 -0500 Subject: Spielberg denies report. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C372 From: angelx_ph Subject: Spielberg denies report. Date: 1/19/00 7:33 pm (ET) I just got word that Steven Spielberg said through his spokesman that his directing and producing the "Harry Potter" movie hasn't yet been finalized as of now. He's still considering other projects. Oh yeah, concerning the score to the movie, I think Danny Elfman would be a more appropriate choice rather than John Williams (though Williams is terrific, Elfman has that "weird, gothic" music nailed, perfect for "Harry Potter") From musicmonk at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 02:51:00 2000 From: musicmonk at yahoo.com (musicmonk at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 21:51:00 -0500 Subject: Spielberg denies report. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C373 From: musicmonk Subject: Re: Spielberg denies report. Reply To: [Yahoo! #372] Spielberg denies report. Date: 1/19/00 9:51 pm (ET) It will be interesting to see if Spielberg finalizes the deal. I hope he does. Danny Elfman is certainly another good candidate for the score, although Spielberg uses Williams consistently. If Spielberg ends up not doing it, then perhaps Danny Elfman may get a call. The only other composer I could accept is James Horner ("Braveheart," "Willow," "The Rocketeer"), who might also be able to do it. I'd still prefer Elfman above him, and Williams most of all. From tori_grrrl at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 05:39:00 2000 From: tori_grrrl at yahoo.com (tori_grrrl at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 00:39:00 -0500 Subject: My 2 cents... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C374 From: tori_grrrl Subject: My 2 cents... Date: 1/20/00 12:39 am (ET) For me...the ideal Harry Potter movie would involve Tim Burton, and the Henson people...I can just picture a "Ghost of Christmas Present" type of muppet for Hagrid's character. Then...of course...Elfman would HAVE to do the score. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 13:33:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:33:00 -0500 Subject: Salon article about HP Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C375 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Salon article about HP Reply To: [Yahoo! #370] Re: Salon article about HP Date: 1/20/00 8:33 am (ET) I think the author of that article is completely off-base. Her argument amounts to saying that Peanuts is a sexist comic strip because there are no realistically drawn female characters. There are very few "realistically" drawn characters in Harry Potter beyond the core trio. And I'm insulted if she thinks Snape, Malfoy, Gilderoy Lockhart and the Dursleys are realistic and positive representations of males. Rowling made choices about what characters. As you said, she chose an 11-13 year old boy as the main character. Appropriately, she spends the most time developing his character. Realistically, she chose a male as his best friend, Ron. Appropriately she spends the next most effort developing his character. Given that Harry is the age he is, I consider it remarkable that Hermione is his next best friend. Everyone else in the books is given less time for character development and accordingly is increasingly two dimensional. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 13:37:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 08:37:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter for Everyone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C376 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Reply To: [Yahoo! #368] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/20/00 8:37 am (ET) I am curious about the child who didn't enjoy Harry Potter. Did he give a reason? The books can be pretty intense. Harry qualifies as an abused child while living with the Dursleys. It takes several chapters before the fun begins in the first one. From quidditchfan at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 18:58:00 2000 From: quidditchfan at yahoo.com (quidditchfan at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 13:58:00 -0500 Subject: New Here Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C377 From: quidditchfan Subject: New Here Date: 1/20/00 1:58 pm (ET) Hi, all. I just joined. I'm a big fan of HP & children's fiction in general. I noticed in a couple of prior messages you were talking about other books that you might like to try out. Some of my favorites that weren't mentioned are anything by David Eddings (the Belgariad & Mallorian series) and Piers Anthony - the Xanth, Phaze, & Incarnations of Immortality series. A children's book I really enjoyed was Ella Enchanted - a twist on Cinderella. Also, Lloyd Alexander's Prydain Chronicles are great. From norevoli at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 19:16:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:16:00 -0500 Subject: New Here Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C378 From: norevoli Subject: Re: New Here Reply To: [Yahoo! #377] New Here Date: 1/20/00 2:16 pm (ET) I loved Ella Enchanted too! Hooray for Gail Carson Levine's dipiction of Ella... a real person and not a 'damsel in distress' and i like the close relationship between her and Char! I would recommend it to anyone...specially 11-12 year olds. From norevoli at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 19:21:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:21:00 -0500 Subject: Salon article about HP Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C379 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Salon article about HP Reply To: [Yahoo! #375] Re: Salon article about HP Date: 1/20/00 2:21 pm (ET) I absolutely agree! When you have secondary characters they can't be more complex than the main character himself. And I don't really like her dipiction of the transfiguration teacher... of course she has to stand by the rules, that's just the type of character she is... military type, and she is Deputy headmistress so she isn't being pushed into the back ground. And Lockhart isn't exactly a wonderful male role model either! He's a very very bad one and i think everyone can agree on that. Sometimes people read into structure of story too much. From norevoli at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 19:23:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 14:23:00 -0500 Subject: Just Wondering... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C380 From: norevoli Subject: Just Wondering... Date: 1/20/00 2:23 pm (ET) Does any one know what this means ...Draco, dormiens, Nunquam, Titillandus ? its on the coat of arms on the first or second page of every book. Nor From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 20:00:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:00:00 -0500 Subject: Just Wondering... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C381 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Just Wondering... Reply To: [Yahoo! #380] Just Wondering... Date: 1/20/00 3:00 pm (ET) If I remember my high school latin at all I think it means something like Never provoke the sleeping dragon. Or something like that. And my response to the salon article is that I personally think that the author is over-reacting. It's a nice series of books meant only to entertain, for pete's sake! And I've heard too many stories of parents saying that their kids are enjoying reading for the first time, so I say "Way to go JK Rowling! More power to ya!" In addition, we all know that in one of the upcoming books, the villain is a woman. (Wasn't that something she was complaining about?) So I think we should all just ignore her and make up our own minds. And I'm pretty sure we're all in agreement about how we feel. By the way, I'm new here and it's great to join you all! This club has the nicest people in all of the clubs I read! From jeralynks at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 20:03:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:03:00 -0500 Subject: Hey Norevoli... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C382 From: jeralynks Subject: Hey Norevoli... Date: 1/20/00 3:03 pm (ET) Sorry about completely going off-topic for the moment with this very specific message... I just "got" your name! Very cute...if I'm right. ;^ ) From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 20:10:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:10:00 -0500 Subject: Just Wondering... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C383 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Just Wondering... Reply To: [Yahoo! #381] Re: Just Wondering... Date: 1/20/00 3:10 pm (ET) Your translation is probably better than mine, but I enjoyed mine more. Assuming titillandus is related to the root word for titillate, I translated it "Never tickle a sleeping dragon." From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 20:36:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 15:36:00 -0500 Subject: Just Wondering... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C384 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Just Wondering... Reply To: [Yahoo! #383] Re: Just Wondering... Date: 1/20/00 3:36 pm (ET) I like yours, too! But it just dawned on me that draco also refers to snake, and since we know that "you-know-who" could speak with snakes and is considered synonymous with snake, that "Never provoke (or tickle) the sleeping snake" is probably more likely. Kathy From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 21:31:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 16:31:00 -0500 Subject: Other magical books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C385 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Other magical books Reply To: [Yahoo! #368] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/20/00 4:31 pm (ET) Well, they're not really for kids, because ocaisonally they contain some adult themes, but the Terry Brooks "Magic Kingdom For Sale - Sold!" series are fun. The first book begins with a man who buys a magic kingdom from an advertisement in a newspaper thinking it's just a joke. But then... From norevoli at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 22:52:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:52:00 -0500 Subject: Just Wondering... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C386 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Just Wondering... Reply To: [Yahoo! #381] Re: Just Wondering... Date: 1/20/00 5:52 pm (ET) One of the new villians is going to be a woman? I didn't know that! Really? Nor From norevoli at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 22:53:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:53:00 -0500 Subject: Hey Norevoli... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C387 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Hey Norevoli... Reply To: [Yahoo! #382] Hey Norevoli... Date: 1/20/00 5:53 pm (ET) thanx...I have crush on him =) nor From norevoli at yahoo.com Thu Jan 20 22:59:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 17:59:00 -0500 Subject: Chat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C388 From: norevoli Subject: Chat Date: 1/20/00 5:59 pm (ET) um... do we arrange chat days in this club? cuz I'd really like to meet some of you and our chat room is always empty... Nor From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 21 01:52:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 20:52:00 -0500 Subject: Just Wondering... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C389 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Just Wondering... Reply To: [Yahoo! #386] Re: Just Wondering... Date: 1/20/00 8:52 pm (ET) Yup. She's a nasty character who turns up in book 4, Harry Potter and the Doomspell Tournament, and it's rumored that her name will be icicle. From frank_l_harris_1999 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 21 03:18:00 2000 From: frank_l_harris_1999 at yahoo.com (frank_l_harris_1999 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2000 22:18:00 -0500 Subject: Chat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C390 From: frank_l_harris_1999 Subject: Re: Chat Reply To: [Yahoo! #388] Chat Date: 1/20/00 10:18 pm (ET) I am a new member and would like to know that myself. Let me know if you find out anything. From musicmonk at yahoo.com Fri Jan 21 12:07:00 2000 From: musicmonk at yahoo.com (musicmonk at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 07:07:00 -0500 Subject: Chat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C391 From: musicmonk Subject: Re: Chat Reply To: [Yahoo! #390] Re: Chat Date: 1/21/00 7:07 am (ET) Why don't we arrange a regular scheduled chat time? Like Tuesday or Thursday evenings? That's when I can chat, and I'd love to. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 21 13:27:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:27:00 -0500 Subject: Chat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C392 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Chat Reply To: [Yahoo! #391] Re: Chat Date: 1/21/00 8:27 am (ET) According to the calendar we have a club chat from 9:00pm to 12:00am Eastern time for tonight. Maybe I'm reading that wrong. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 21 13:29:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 08:29:00 -0500 Subject: Yahoo Messenger Skin Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C393 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Yahoo Messenger Skin Date: 1/21/00 8:29 am (ET) I have a Harry Potter Messenger skin that I put together. You're welcome to it. From crazee85264 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 21 18:37:00 2000 From: crazee85264 at yahoo.com (crazee85264 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 13:37:00 -0500 Subject: Yahoo Messenger Skin Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C394 From: crazee85264 Subject: Re: Yahoo Messenger Skin Reply To: [Yahoo! #393] Yahoo Messenger Skin Date: 1/21/00 1:37 pm (ET) How do i get it??? From norevoli at yahoo.com Fri Jan 21 19:34:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:34:00 -0500 Subject: yahoo messenger skin Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C395 From: norevoli Subject: yahoo messenger skin Date: 1/21/00 2:34 pm (ET) yes... how do you get a Yahoo Messenger skin thingy-dodad or whatchamacallit! nor From norevoli at yahoo.com Fri Jan 21 19:36:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:36:00 -0500 Subject: Chat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C396 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Chat Reply To: [Yahoo! #390] Re: Chat Date: 1/21/00 2:36 pm (ET) Welcome to the club! From norevoli at yahoo.com Fri Jan 21 19:39:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 14:39:00 -0500 Subject: Where do you guys find your rumors on HP Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C397 From: norevoli Subject: Where do you guys find your rumors on HP Reply To: [Yahoo! #389] Re: Just Wondering... Date: 1/21/00 2:39 pm (ET) Where do you get all your info? Voicelady_2000 you know alot of things that I didn't even hear about! or maybe I just don't know anything Nor=) From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 21 20:10:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 15:10:00 -0500 Subject: yahoo messenger skin Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C398 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: yahoo messenger skin Reply To: [Yahoo! #395] yahoo messenger skin Date: 1/21/00 3:10 pm (ET) I'll send you the messenger skin using Messenger itself. Just let me know that you want it. You aren't listed as being on-line, norevoli. Do you have Messenger? The skin won't do you a lot of good without it. From tracilbell at yahoo.com Fri Jan 21 21:15:00 2000 From: tracilbell at yahoo.com (tracilbell at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2000 16:15:00 -0500 Subject: Where do you guys find your rumors o Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C399 From: tracilbell Subject: Re: Where do you guys find your rumors o Reply To: [Yahoo! #397] Where do you guys find your rumors on HP Date: 1/21/00 4:15 pm (ET) my favourite place for rumours and facts is www.geocities.com/harrypotterfans From Ravenw0lf at yahoo.com Sun Jan 23 14:34:00 2000 From: Ravenw0lf at yahoo.com (Ravenw0lf at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 09:34:00 -0500 Subject: other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C400 From: Ravenw0lf Subject: other books Date: 1/23/00 9:34 am (ET) I love all Dragonlance and Forgotten Realms books. My husband and I love fantasy and play Dungeons and Dragons. After years of reading about strong characters and epic adventures I was totally swept away by the innocence of Harry and all the wonderful things that happened to him. These books definetly took me back to my childhood and kept me entranced like the Chronicles of Narnia series did when I was 10. From mrslibrarian at yahoo.com Sun Jan 23 23:22:00 2000 From: mrslibrarian at yahoo.com (mrslibrarian at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 23 Jan 2000 18:22:00 -0500 Subject: Just Wondering... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C401 From: mrslibrarian Subject: Re: Just Wondering... Reply To: [Yahoo! #384] Re: Just Wondering... Date: 1/23/00 6:22 pm (ET) Titillandus is given in my Latin dictionary as tickle, no question. Draco, however, has several meanings, including Draco the Athenian lawgiver (as in Draconian laws), a cohort's standard and an old vine branch. While the idea of not being able to tickle a sleeping old Athenian amuses, I tend to go with the dragon/snake/serpent theory. The Latin word draco, incidentally, comes from the Greek dracon, "a kind of serpent, dragon" according to the same dictionary. Back to the real world..... From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 24 16:33:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 11:33:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter Article Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C402 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Harry Potter Article Date: 1/24/00 11:33 am (ET) Here's a Harry Potter article that was posted over the weekend with some interesting tidbits. http://kids.infoplease.com/spot/harrypotter1.html From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 24 22:32:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 17:32:00 -0500 Subject: Where do you guys find your rumors o Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C403 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Where do you guys find your rumors o Reply To: [Yahoo! #399] Re: Where do you guys find your rumors o Date: 1/24/00 5:32 pm (ET) I also get my information from the geocities site because it's connected with Scholastic, the US Publishers/Distributors of the Harry Potter series. They're very trustworthy when it comes to information. From b_drey at yahoo.com Tue Jan 25 02:59:00 2000 From: b_drey at yahoo.com (b_drey at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 21:59:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter for Everyone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C404 From: b_drey Subject: Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Reply To: [Yahoo! #366] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/24/00 9:59 pm (ET) Actually, no - so I'll ask again. We can speculate on the movie forever--but it will be what it will be, However, we should have some ideas on the answer to this question: Why do the Harry Potter books appeal to people of all ages? As a sort of post script, I must admit that not all of my friends liked the books, and I classify them as "pseudo-intellectuals", but I'm probably being petty. Barbara From norevoli at yahoo.com Tue Jan 25 03:49:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:49:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter for Everyone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C405 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Reply To: [Yahoo! #404] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/24/00 10:49 pm (ET) really? They don't enjoy the book at all? How old are theY? they must be reading it upside down... nor From norevoli at yahoo.com Tue Jan 25 03:54:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2000 22:54:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter Article Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C406 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Harry Potter Article Reply To: [Yahoo! #402] Harry Potter Article Date: 1/24/00 10:54 pm (ET) That's a great site Skimmel... http://kids.infoplease.com/spot/harrypotter1.html I was oo-ing and ah-ing my way throught it... I didn't know that the death was coming in book four... that's so soon! Nor From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Tue Jan 25 16:35:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:35:00 -0500 Subject: Another interesting site/article Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C407 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Another interesting site/article Date: 1/25/00 11:35 am (ET) I found this article to be interesting. It is entitled "Why We Like Harry Potter." Their conclusion? "Amid the laugh-out-loud scenes are wonderful examples of compassion, loyalty, courage, friendship, and even self-sacrifice. No wonder young readers want to be like these believable characters. That is a Christmas present we can be grateful for." I agree. http://www.christianityonline.com/ct/current/9C13/9C13a.html From mrslibrarian at yahoo.com Tue Jan 25 23:09:00 2000 From: mrslibrarian at yahoo.com (mrslibrarian at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:09:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter for Everyone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C408 From: mrslibrarian Subject: Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Reply To: [Yahoo! #404] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/25/00 6:09 pm (ET) I'm sure you're not being petty - that sounds pretty pseudo-intellectual to me. Prisoner of Azkaban has just been pipped to the Whitbread Book of the Year Award by Seamus Heaney and Beowulf - it 'only' won the Children's Book of the Year. Clearly some real intellectuals rather appreciated it! From musicmonk at yahoo.com Wed Jan 26 03:18:00 2000 From: musicmonk at yahoo.com (musicmonk at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:18:00 -0500 Subject: Is it just me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C409 From: musicmonk Subject: Is it just me... Date: 1/25/00 10:18 pm (ET) or did everyone catch that the writing on the Mirror of Erised says: "I show not your face but your hearts desire." It just says it backwards and broken up. Maybe everyone knows this and I'm kind of foolish for assuming otherwise...but just wanted to know how many people figured that out. From mystril at yahoo.com Wed Jan 26 03:34:00 2000 From: mystril at yahoo.com (mystril at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 22:34:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter for Everyone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C410 From: Mystril Subject: Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Reply To: [Yahoo! #404] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/25/00 10:34 pm (ET) I don't think the HP books appeal to everyone. While at least 4 of my coworkers have read them and I referred them to a few parents, but at least one woman has 3 children who are terrified of anything that is fantasy. On the happy side, one woman bought the book for her son and now the whole family reads it over and over. I can't tell you why everyone likes the books, I can only tell you why I like them and make broad generalizations on the rest. My story: Sometime before HP made the cover of Time, someone on a mailing list mentioned this great kids book. I was very reluctant to buy it in hardcover, but the next time I was desperate for some escapist fiction, I bought it. Around 2 am that Sunday, I finished it. The main reason I like the books is that I like Harry and I like seeing him succeed. I also enjoy watching him grow up and learn how to deal with unpleasant realities. I also liked the idea that there is magic in Harry's England. But the overall theme of good vs. evil almost always attracts me and in a good book, the author always leaves me guessing where the evil is coming from. I'm also on a constant quest for good fantasy and HP just clicked with me. I think the HP books are popular with kids because some many books that come out are poorly written or didactic, while HP is neither. The popularity of the books in the press probably has something to do with it too, since I've never seen such a fad over a book. I think the adults who read Harry Potter are simply appreciating a good story or are reminded of books they read when they were children. I could go on and discuss how the structure relates to the hero's journey, which is one of the reasons some people think Dumbledore is going to die, but before I start theorizing, I'd like to wait for the last book. Sorry for the massiveness of this message, it's just difficult for me to describe something ephemeral like the appeal of a good book. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Wed Jan 26 13:52:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 08:52:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter for Everyone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C411 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Reply To: [Yahoo! #410] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/26/00 8:52 am (ET) Mystril is very close to the mark. Adults like Harry for all those reasons. But the books don't remind me of anything I read as a child. The Harry Potter books are about interesting characters with a lot of admirable characteristics and identifable failings. Harry and Ron and Hermione are engaged in a classic struggle of good versus evil in which the outcome is in doubt until the very last moment. The books are written with charm and wit and a very nice style. That's very important. There are lots of books with all the other story characteristics as Harry but without the style. Although it would be odd for the title character to be killed off in the third book of a seven book set when we read the books, the outcome is in doubt because we are so deeply caught up by the writer's skill. I know people who don't understand what Harry Potter is all about. I don't understand them. In the SF community, they're referred to as Mundanes because they can't get interested in anything but the Mundane world. In the Harry Potter field, these same folks are Muggles. My best explanation for Mundanes and Muggles is that the world has crushed all the imagination out of them. From jeralynks at yahoo.com Wed Jan 26 14:56:00 2000 From: jeralynks at yahoo.com (jeralynks at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 09:56:00 -0500 Subject: Is it just me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C412 From: jeralynks Subject: Re: Is it just me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #409] Is it just me... Date: 1/26/00 9:56 am (ET) Hiya Monk, No it isn't just you. I've spoken to quite a number of people and the Mirror of Erised clue flew right by them as did quite a few other hints in her books. I'm a big reader and love how words are used and am always on the lookout for clues in names. And JK Rowling uses language in a way to make the story more interesting to her readers. For instance, remember Professor Lupin? His last name is a big clue to figuring out what his problem is. I won't say anymore for those who haven't gotten that far yet. And of course there is Tom Riddle. Once again, I won't give anything away, but if you've read that far, you'll understand. She uses word games like that a lot. ;^) From brewergirl at yahoo.com Wed Jan 26 16:52:00 2000 From: brewergirl at yahoo.com (brewergirl at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 11:52:00 -0500 Subject: Is it just me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C413 From: BrewerGirl Subject: Re: Is it just me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #412] Re: Is it just me... Date: 1/26/00 11:52 am (ET) Those kinds of word plays are just one of the reasons I enjoy these books. It was actually my second time through "Chamber of Secrets" that I picked up that "Knockturn Alley" was a play on "nocturne." I think I missed it the first time through because I was reading it to myself .. the second time I was reading it aloud to my niece. (She didn't think it was as neat as I did ... "Yeah, yeah, I get it. Can you keep reading, please?") Another of my favorite books is "The Phantom Toolbooth." Almost the whole book is a play on words! From norevoli at yahoo.com Wed Jan 26 22:28:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:28:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter for Everyone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C414 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Reply To: [Yahoo! #411] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/26/00 5:28 pm (ET) I deeply agree about the way that the world has crushed the imagination out of the lives of many people. and i'm sure there are many who say forget imagination, and art and dance and music--forget that, its not important. But everytime this comes up I am reminded of a true story, (that happened to be a sight passage on an english exam!) and it talks about someone's experience in a concentration camp. A group of the imprisoned decided to stay up and share with those around their joys and passions--literature, operas, dramas, plays, and songs. Many of the fellow prisoners scoffed at them for spending their energy staying up all night when they could be resting. But what happens in the end is that all that were living to survive, those that did not spend a few hours reminising about their joys... were the one's that died. Why do you think they burnt books? so that they could squeeze the imagination and with it the hope of something better. So more likely than not, those that don't enjoy the book, really aren't 'reading' it. They've been too busy forgetting imagination that they haven't learned how to really read- to understand and envision what is being said in a few words and spots of ink. --do you get what i'm saying? From norevoli at yahoo.com Wed Jan 26 22:33:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:33:00 -0500 Subject: Is it just me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C415 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Is it just me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #409] Is it just me... Date: 1/26/00 5:33 pm (ET) I got it the second time around. And you know what else I figure? that the quiet one's are the ones you should suspect to be involved... ex. Quirell, Ginny, Sirius, Pettigrew--that dirty rat! From iago_nyc at yahoo.com Thu Jan 27 01:44:00 2000 From: iago_nyc at yahoo.com (iago_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 20:44:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter for Everyone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C416 From: iago_nyc Subject: Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Reply To: [Yahoo! #411] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/26/00 8:44 pm (ET) "the world has crushed all the imagination out of them". Oh, please. Can't someone not like what you like? I liked the Potter books, but in no way do they compare with the Alice books or Lord of the Rings -- FOR ME. Other people may feel differently. THEY ARE ALLOWED THIS INDISCRETION. Some people prefer reading about quantum mechanics. Does this mean that they have no imagination? Has it been "crushed" out of them? No. They simply prefer something else. If we were all the same, then nothing would be interesting -- we'd all be the same person. This is not even mentioning what happens over time. There have been some very popular novels that have become tinder over time. Can't people have different "time views" in the same period of time? I predict that Harry Potter novels will fall -- in some measurable amount of time -- into the category of "quaintly popular". Must everyone today exist in your "pop" culture? Allow people to have different opinions and lifestyles -- afterall, isn't this the driving premise of the Potter books? From musicmonk at yahoo.com Thu Jan 27 02:46:00 2000 From: musicmonk at yahoo.com (musicmonk at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:46:00 -0500 Subject: The Art of Dreaming Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C417 From: musicmonk Subject: The Art of Dreaming Reply To: [Yahoo! #416] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/26/00 9:46 pm (ET) Perhaps we should replace the word "imagination" with "dreaming." They are not the same. iago_nyc: you bring up a good point, that people who read different things do not necessarily lack imagination. It's interesting that you used the example of quantum mechanics, because that indeed does take a lot of imagination to be able to conceptualize what is going on. But while people may have imaginations and use them in different ways, what I believe is missing from most people these days are dreams. People don't seem to have dreams anymore. This condition reminds me of Langston Hughes famous poem: "What happens to a dream deferred? Does it dry up Like a raisin in the sun?" Everyone is stuck on "survival" mode and this usually means money. Almost everyone is living just to make money. I understand that there are bills to pay, but I think--no, I KNOW--life is so much more than this! And THIS to me is what Harry Potter is all about: living your dreams. Muggles are people without dreams, or who don't pay attention to them...and there are far too many Muggles. I don't hate them...I just feel sad for them. The story of J.K. Rowling and the creation of Harry Potter in itself is a testimony to this. I'm sure you are all familiar with how it all started on scraps of paper in a cafe. Rowling is a real life person who is a living example of following your dreams. She is the real hero of Harry Potter, at least to me. Well that's my two cents. (smile) From mystril at yahoo.com Thu Jan 27 02:51:00 2000 From: mystril at yahoo.com (mystril at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 21:51:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter for Everyone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C418 From: Mystril Subject: Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Reply To: [Yahoo! #416] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/26/00 9:51 pm (ET) I agree with you Iago. I know many people who don't like fantasy (including my entire family). I wasn't trying to judge my coworker's family, but when someone asked who would not like HP, I wanted to give an example. In my situation, the children don't like books that can't be true. They do very well in school and are not social pariahs, they just don't like fantasy. I'm very uncomfortable with the idea that because someone doesn't like one book (or one genre) they have no imagination. I don't think that is a fair judgment. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Thu Jan 27 18:25:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:25:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter for Everyone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C419 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Reply To: [Yahoo! #418] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/27/00 1:25 pm (ET) Iago and Mystril's point is well taken and I did over simplify what I said. I was referring to the Mundanes and Muggles who don't like any imaginative fiction. I understand folks whose fantasies deal with the Old West or Tarzan or outer space or whatever and that's fine. There are things I like better than Harry Potter. The folks I don't understand are the ones who don't enjoy fantasies at all. And we all know some of them. I just don't understand how they got that way. I have never run into a child who didn't enjoy some type of fantasy play or fiction. But we all know a good number of adults who don't read, who don't go to movies or plays, who don't watch television shows that aren't heavily steeped in reality. Somehow when those people grew up, they lost their "sense of wonder." Those are the folks I meant when I said they'd had the imagination crushed out of them. I don't care if they don't like Harry but their plight saddens me. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the Muggles are the ones who matured and we're the ones who never grew up. However, given my choice between the Dursleys and Harry Potter, then I'll vote with Peter Pan. From mrslibrarian at yahoo.com Thu Jan 27 21:27:00 2000 From: mrslibrarian at yahoo.com (mrslibrarian at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:27:00 -0500 Subject: Setting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C420 From: mrslibrarian Subject: Setting Date: 1/27/00 4:27 pm (ET) When I first read Harry Potter, it was as part of an adult discussion group. The book had just come out, and we were reading it to see if we could recommend it to children. A number of the adults felt that by setting it in a boarding school, JKR would alienate children unfamiliar with that environment. Having dealt with children and adults who have been both boarders and non-boarders, this not only doesn't alienate them, it doesn't even seem to impinge on their understanding of the story. When I was a kid, we read loads of stories set in boarding schools e.g. Jennings, and the whole setting then seemed rather romantic. Does it make a difference in Harry Potter? Other than the obvious mechanism for escaping from the Dursleys, of course. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Fri Jan 28 00:17:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 19:17:00 -0500 Subject: Setting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C421 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Setting Reply To: [Yahoo! #420] Setting Date: 1/27/00 7:17 pm (ET) Rather than alienating young readers, I personally think that it would only enhance the story. As you said, it makes it more romantic. Imagine it...what escapism! Kids who actually seem to have more responsibility for themselves in the absence of parents! Harry gets to spend practically all of his time with his friends, and, at the same time, make his own decisions. How could that NOT appeal to a young reader, assuming, that is, that s/he likes fantasy -- refer back to Iago's remarks <smile>. Kathy From norevoli at yahoo.com Fri Jan 28 21:25:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:25:00 -0500 Subject: Harry Potter for Everyone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C422 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Reply To: [Yahoo! #416] Re: Harry Potter for Everyone Date: 1/28/00 4:25 pm (ET) I guess I was a bit too harsh in what I said about people who don't enjoy the books as much as we do. I keep forgetting that not everyone thinks like me--a rather selfcentered problem that i'm trying to get rid of. It really all depends in the way that your mind works huh? But I think that every book captivates its audience in different ways and creates different sparks of interest. what iago said about becoming the same person if we all enjoyed the same thing reminds me of another book by Lois Lowry called the Giver...which was a good book-- for me (I'm learning.) From norevoli at yahoo.com Fri Jan 28 21:31:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 16:31:00 -0500 Subject: Setting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C423 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Setting Reply To: [Yahoo! #420] Setting Date: 1/28/00 4:31 pm (ET) I suppose that the way a child's mind works is different from the way an adult's does. A boarding school is an unfamiliar environment to alot of kids but wasn't Wonderland? and Never never land? And isn't England(for those who don't live there)? I think that boarding school is just a way of getting away from that world of limitations--the Dursley's-- but at the same time it also shows that even though Harry has his freedom at Hogwarts, he still has rules and now decisions to make. Question: Would this "getting way from the cruel world" situation that Harry gets to do encourage children to runaway? From mrslibrarian at yahoo.com Sun Jan 30 08:37:00 2000 From: mrslibrarian at yahoo.com (mrslibrarian at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 03:37:00 -0500 Subject: Running Away Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C424 From: mrslibrarian Subject: Running Away Reply To: [Yahoo! #423] Re: Setting Date: 1/30/00 3:37 am (ET) Don't suggest that! More ammo for those parents in South Carolina! Personally, I would hope that they escape from unpleasant situations by reading imaginative books and a) living in their fantasy worlds for a while, and b) seeing how their heroes/heroines deal with unpleasant situations, learning from their 'experiences'. Admittedly, it's hard to follow Harry's methods of dealing with nasty adults unless you have magic powers.... From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Jan 31 02:43:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2000 21:43:00 -0500 Subject: Running Away Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C425 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Running Away Reply To: [Yahoo! #424] Running Away Date: 1/30/00 9:43 pm (ET) I'm not suggesting that that's what the book does but I've heard about that situation and I was wondering... anyway I always thought that the fact that harry has to go and see the dursley's again every summer is proof that you can't just run away from your problems. I think Hogwarts is giving him the knowledge and understanding to deal with the dursley's. So i guess maybe it doesn't provoke running away... it encourages them to work out their problems... does that make any sense? From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 31 13:42:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 08:42:00 -0500 Subject: Running Away Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C426 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Running Away Reply To: [Yahoo! #425] Re: Running Away Date: 1/31/00 8:42 am (ET) It makes perfect sense. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Jan 31 18:13:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 13:13:00 -0500 Subject: Amazon.com Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C427 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Amazon.com Date: 1/31/00 1:13 pm (ET) I was surfing yesterday, and I noticed on Amazon.com that "Harry Potter and the Doomspell Tournament" is already on the top 5 books on their list. People have already been preordering it by the tousands! I think I'll wait. From norevoli at yahoo.com Mon Jan 31 20:46:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2000 15:46:00 -0500 Subject: Amazon.com Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C428 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Amazon.com Reply To: [Yahoo! #427] Amazon.com Date: 1/31/00 3:46 pm (ET) I think I'll do the same... then I will be won't have anything to look forward to in the summer! From nobodyknows at yahoo.com Sat Jan 1 05:00:00 2000 From: nobodyknows at yahoo.com (nobodyknows at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:00:00 -0500 Subject: Message deleted Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1704 From: nobodyknows Subject: Message deleted Date: 1/1/00 0:00 am (ET) Message deleted or lost. From nobodyknows at yahoo.com Sat Jan 1 05:00:00 2000 From: nobodyknows at yahoo.com (nobodyknows) Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 00:00:00 -0500 Subject: Message deleted Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C7204 From: nobodyknows Subject: Message deleted Date: 1/1/00 0:00 am (ET) Message deleted or lost. 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