From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 1 05:46:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 01:46:00 -0400 Subject: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1569 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1548] Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Date: 6/1/00 1:46 am (ET) "Let's see..... hmmmm... that is seven different syllabi and lessons plans for seven different levels, four sections each (for each of the four houses), all of which is seven times the workload I ever had when I was a teacher! Geeeeezzz!! How does she do it guys?" It's easy if you have a time-turner! Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 1 05:57:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 01:57:00 -0400 Subject: Unofficial Merchandise Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1570 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Unofficial Merchandise Reply To: [Yahoo! #1565] Unofficial Merchandise Date: 6/1/00 1:57 am (ET) I've been thinking laterally about merchandise, which can be more fun than chasing after over-priced movie-promoting stuff. The other day, for example, I went to Hamley's toy shop in London to look at their stuffed animals (as you do). I was looking for a 'Hedwig' - but I left disappointed! I'm also on the lookout for a lightning bolt tie-pin, which probably does exist... somewhere, and I've just decided to try to find a model Ford Anglia (I wonder why?). It keeps me off the streets... Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 1 06:13:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 02:13:00 -0400 Subject: Prefects Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1571 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Prefects Reply To: [Yahoo! #1561] Prefects Date: 6/1/00 2:13 am (ET) If there was only one prefect per house, Percy would, perhaps, have been described as "the Gryffindor prefect" rather than "a prefect". On the subject of numbers, is it possible that there are other Gryffindors in Harry's year who we never see or hear from? Perhaps Jo is employing the 'ensemble cast' idea favoured by "Star Trek" and teen situation comedies like "Sabrina - The Teenage Witch" where a small group of main characters do all the talking and action, while a large cast of extras walk around in the background entering turbolifts or opening lockers. I think the Hogwarts' numbers must still be quite small, because there aren't very many teachers... Oh, I finally found out that the elusive fourth house at my school was called 'Stags' (Gryphons, Lions, Dragons and Stags). I knew you'd all be thrilled to know that. Neil From babynick34 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 1 08:59:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 04:59:00 -0400 Subject: Unofficial Merchandise Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1572 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Unofficial Merchandise Reply To: [Yahoo! #1570] Re: Unofficial Merchandise Date: 6/1/00 4:59 am (ET) Neil... Let us know what you manage to find. I suspect the Model Ford Anglia will be the easiest to locate - though it might mean going to some of the Toy Collectors fairs. I'm past my toy car stage... remind me who makes toy cars cabn you - I think MatchBox makes them, must be others. Nick. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 02:40:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 22:40:00 -0400 Subject: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books 1-3 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1573 From: plinsenmayer Subject: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books 1-3 Date: 6/1/00 10:40 pm (ET) Hi: I promise I will post some sort of a new activity -- unless I get creative soon, it will be more of the quotes variety trivia quiz. But, I also thought I would propose a re-read (and discussion) of each of the 3 books since it is now June 1st and officially not much more than a month away from Book 4 release. Is anyone interested in an in-depth discussion (we could do a few chapters each day -- if we do only 1 chapter per day, we wouldn't finish all 3 books)? How about Chapters 1-4 of Sorcerer's Stone for tomorrow? Penny From georgeweasley_2000 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 02:44:00 2000 From: georgeweasley_2000 at yahoo.com (georgeweasley_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 22:44:00 -0400 Subject: Hi there !! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1574 From: georgeweasley_2000 Subject: Hi there !! Date: 6/1/00 10:44 pm (ET) I was flying by an open window on my broomstick and I happened to see someone's computer screen logged on to your club messages. I thought I would join too! Now that I'm out of Hogwarts, I can classify myself as an adult! I'm not sure what has happened to Fred lately since he cast that love spell on that old guy and some girl named Monica Lewinsky. Mom and Dad keep saying that we should settle down and find respectable work, but we don't really want to grow up just yet. After we heard our life stories were being sold to some Muggle in England and she was actually profitting from them, Mom got really mad! She was particularly upset about the story about Dad and Lucius Malfoy in the bookstore being printed. She had asked for that to be left out of the story, but the muggle insisted. She also wanted to protect Ginny from all of the hype surrounding the Chamber of Secrets, but Ginny said it was okay because she had learned to deal with it. I've got to be on my way, but it was fun saying hi to all of you muggles. This computer stuff isn't so bad and it doesn't make the mess that the owls sometimes do. Sincerely, Fred Weasley (I mean George) Oh, you can tell the difference anyway, can't you? From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 04:10:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 00:10:00 -0400 Subject: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1575 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1573] New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books 1-3 Date: 6/2/00 12:10 am (ET) *raising hand* I'll join in. However, I must admit that you're ruining my plans of torturing myself - I'd planned on going to my local bookstore (community needs the money, I'm sure) and getting my grubby little hands on that wonderful book on the 8th of July, then keeping it by my side (to look at the cover) while I reread the first three. But! I can still do that. ;) Jen Ps. Realistically, I don't expect to get through all three - probably just to the part where Harry is making Dudley's birthday bacon. Then I'll just say "aw, forget it!" and ravishing my new book. ;) Of course, then I'll be done in 3 hours (thank goodness it's 700+ pages long) and I'll think "Why couldn't I just put it off a night longer????? Me again, of course. From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 04:12:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 00:12:00 -0400 Subject: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1576 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1575] Re: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Date: 6/2/00 12:12 am (ET) Duh. I usually hit the "preview before posting" button, but I missed, and therefore missed the terrible "then I'll just say and ravishing" mistake. Boy, just knock me down, I feel sheepish. Anyway, change it to ravish, and pretend that my joke went over just fine, kay? Jen (hanging her head in shame) From christineoswell at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 04:27:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 00:27:00 -0400 Subject: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1577 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1575] Re: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Date: 6/2/00 12:27 am (ET) I would love to, but my grandmother still has my Philosopher's Stone, and my sister still has my Chamber of Secrets (doesn't that sound strange? LOL), and I can't see getting them back in the next little while :o(. I do have 2 copies of Azkaban, but I don't suppose that will help, will it? Christine (who is itching to peruse the first two books again!) From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 06:23:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 02:23:00 -0400 Subject: Unofficial Merchandise Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1578 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Unofficial Merchandise Reply To: [Yahoo! #1572] Re: Unofficial Merchandise Date: 6/2/00 2:23 am (ET) Yes, Matchbox do make toy cars. There are several other manufacturers as well. So far, I've found several types of Ford among the smaller diecast models, but no Ford Anglias, and nothing in turquoise. I'm no fan of cars in general, but I think it's safe to say that the Ford Anglia wouldn't be at the top of any collector's list! Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 06:27:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 02:27:00 -0400 Subject: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1579 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1573] New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books 1-3 Date: 6/2/00 2:27 am (ET) That sounds good... it's like getting homework again! Neil From nlpnt at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 14:57:00 2000 From: nlpnt at yahoo.com (nlpnt at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 10:57:00 -0400 Subject: Unofficial Merchandise Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1580 From: nlpnt Subject: Re: Unofficial Merchandise Reply To: [Yahoo! #1578] Re: Unofficial Merchandise Date: 6/2/00 10:57 am (ET) Lledo makes a 1/43 Anglia; if you're in England you should have a lot easier time finding one than I did here in the US. Mine WAS white and green, but I've been a car modeler for 15 years so changing the color of a diecast is nothing to me. Now if only Tamiya would do a 1/24 plastic 105E kit ! From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 15:48:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 11:48:00 -0400 Subject: Ford Anglia Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1581 From: babynick34 Subject: Ford Anglia Date: 6/2/00 11:48 am (ET) Model Cars are available from: http://www.collectiques.net Not knowing anything about cars... what model of Ford Anglia are we looking for? Nick. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 15:55:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 11:55:00 -0400 Subject: Ford Anglia Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1582 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Ford Anglia Reply To: [Yahoo! #1581] Ford Anglia Date: 6/2/00 11:55 am (ET) Another place Car fans might like to try is: http://www.toynet.f9.co.uk/makes.html http://www.toybox100.freeserve.co.uk/vanguard.htm Where model VA1001 is a Green Ford Anglia <img src="http://www.toybox100.freeserve.co.uk/images/VA1001.jpg"> From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 16:08:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 12:08:00 -0400 Subject: Unofficial Merchandise Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1583 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Unofficial Merchandise Reply To: [Yahoo! #1580] Re: Unofficial Merchandise Date: 6/2/00 12:08 pm (ET) >Lledo makes a 1/43 Anglia; if you're in England you should have a lot easier time finding one than I did here in the US. >Mine WAS white and green, but I've been a car modeler for 15 years so changing the color of a diecast is nothing to me. See other posts for locations of stores that sell these models. Seems to be a variety of colors available - well Yellow & Green I found so far... but no sign of a Blue one. So how easy is it to change the color? Would a model shop need to know what colour it would be, or would that info need to be got from Ford? Can someone help out... where is the reference in COS to the color and make of the car? Thanks Nick. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 16:32:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 12:32:00 -0400 Subject: German Book Covers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1584 From: babynick34 Subject: German Book Covers Date: 6/2/00 12:32 pm (ET) Hi all. I've just noticed... the German book covers are completely different. See: http://www.users.interport.net/~dinosaur/harrypotter.html While the British and US versions make Harry look loveable... the German Version (in my opinion) makes him look evil. What do you think? From davehoz at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 17:04:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 13:04:00 -0400 Subject: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1585 From: davehoz Subject: Re: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1573] New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books 1-3 Date: 6/2/00 1:04 pm (ET) This sounds like a good idea! On rereading Chapter one of Book one there's something I'd like to point out: Has anyone else noticed that there's one other Hogwarts professor besides Dumbledore, McGonnegal, and Hagrid who makes an appearence in that first chapter? Anyone know who it is? (I'll wait a few hours and then give the answer.) From quidditchfan at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 18:11:00 2000 From: quidditchfan at yahoo.com (quidditchfan at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 14:11:00 -0400 Subject: German Book Covers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1586 From: quidditchfan Subject: Re: German Book Covers Reply To: [Yahoo! #1584] German Book Covers Date: 6/2/00 2:11 pm (ET) Hmm, I kind of like the German covers. Gotta love those tiny retro glasses. From vikar25 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 18:53:00 2000 From: vikar25 at yahoo.com (vikar25 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 14:53:00 -0400 Subject: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1587 From: vikar25 Subject: Re: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1585] Re: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Date: 6/2/00 2:53 pm (ET) The only other person who was mentioned from Hogwarts was Sirius Black. Hagrid borrowed his motorcycle. Other than that, I have no idea. Regards, Vikar25 From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 21:19:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:19:00 -0400 Subject: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1588 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1585] Re: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Date: 6/2/00 5:19 pm (ET) Well, I've always wondered if the "tiny old man" who hugs Vernon around his middle was Prof. Flitwick, but who's to say? Besides, what time of year is it? If it's not during summer holidays, then why would he be celebrating down in London? McGonnagal, Dumbledore, and Hagrid are down south because they're dropping off Harry, but there's no real reason for Flitwick to be there. Anyway, that's my guess. :) Jen From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 21:55:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:55:00 -0400 Subject: New Puzzle Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1589 From: plinsenmayer Subject: New Puzzle Date: 6/2/00 5:55 pm (ET) Hi: I decided to do a word scramble (find hidden words). Hopefully it will come out formatted correctly (otherwise it would be pointless, heh?). There are 22 hidden words or phrases in all. They can be vertical, horizontal, diagonal, backwards vertical or backwards horizontal. I would think it will be easiest to do if you can print it out rather than trying to look at your screen (although you may need to even out the spacing manually before printing if needed so you can easily do the diagonal ones). :--) Oh, they are all from Sorcerer's Stone. Please email your list of found words to me at linsenma at hic.net. Here goes: Y M A R X T U C B B O T C H Z A G N I D D U P E L C A E R T R H G D T K E O L I U F F U H M O E D E M O Q A M E T O T A T S S L R I X I L E O N L O R N T A X E Q J P A Y S I L U R G E R B H E R M I G S C I R L N H R J U A K T I M B L V O E I M T E V I R P Z K A M A D R C E A O I M E R H K I N N E I H A B R I Z M K Y E A Q D L S O E B E A T E R L S Z U E M E Z I Y P L E M O J A S I R I D T E C J F L B A N E X C O L A C L A S R X R A R O W E R O M E I T O S X A G R A N G E R E F O C I G O L J U A S R R A H E G L I D O L M Q S T I C A E R O D C S L A X E A N I V I D P U C E S U O H N A R N I W W X E N I B A C O R R I D O R I A T J I O M N K O A Z E Y I K T R E V O R C A N L Q M X E X THE END Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 21:57:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 17:57:00 -0400 Subject: Reference to 4th professor in Chapter 1 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1590 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Reference to 4th professor in Chapter 1 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1588] Re: New Activity; Group Re-Read of Books Date: 6/2/00 5:57 pm (ET) Hi: Like Jen, the only other person in Chapter 1 that I see who *might* be a professor is the tiny old man that Vernon Dursley bumps into (might be Flitwick as Jen suggested). Otherwise, I'm stumped. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 22:07:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 18:07:00 -0400 Subject: Chapters 1-4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1591 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Chapters 1-4 Date: 6/2/00 6:07 pm (ET) Hi: Since I suggested this, I'll start. I think we should push the re-read of Chapters 1-4 into tomorrow and then we can start discussing 5-8 on Sunday/Monday. Then, we can go from there at whatever pace makes sense. 1. I know the Dursleys are supposed to provide the fairy tale quality (they are the very caricature of mean evil "step-parents"). But, I am always left wondering how, given the abuse that was heaped on him from the time he was one year old, Harry turned out to not be a psycho or otherwise disturbed or evil. As Dumbledore predicted, he turned out better than if he'd been raised knowing about his fame. But, why couldn't he have been taken with a wizard family, as long as the wizard family agreed to shelter him from the tale about his fame until he had reached an age where he could handle it. I have heard we'll eventually receive an explanation re: the Dursleys so maybe all will be more clear later. 2. I love the fact that Sirius Black was introduced to us in this chapter, without the slightest clue about his later importance. Although Hagrid mentions that Sirius lent him the motorbike, he doesn't say anything about how distraught Sirius was, that he (Hagrid) comforted him in his grief or that Sirius wanted to take Harry. 3. If the attack on the Potters occurred on Halloween night, then where were Hagrid & Harry during that entire day that Prof McGonagall hung out on Privet Drive? The celebrations were going on all that day, which rules out the possibility that the attack took place & Harry was left at the Dursleys all in the same evening/night. 4. I love the chapter about all the letters -- I think Vernon's response (while motivated by ignorance, prejudice, etc.) is nonetheless very comic. I may have more comments in a bit. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 22:09:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 18:09:00 -0400 Subject: Puzzle (Clarification) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1592 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Puzzle (Clarification) Date: 6/2/00 6:09 pm (ET) Hi: The "emailed" version of my puzzle came out a bit garbled so I thought I should say that if you need to recreate the puzzle, it should be 15 letters across (with 23 rows in all). Let me know if that doesn't make sense. Penny From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 23:10:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 19:10:00 -0400 Subject: Talking about cars... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1593 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Talking about cars... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1580] Re: Unofficial Merchandise Date: 6/2/00 7:10 pm (ET) Thanks for that technical stuff, nlpnt...! Yesterday, I wouldn't have had a clue what you were talking about, but I looked around the 'net earlier today and found out that the 105E was the later version of the Ford Anglia (and the one pictured on the UK cover of COS). In the book, the car is first described as "an old turquoise car" (I think that answers your colour question, Nick) and I've discovered that the very early versions of the Ford Anglia looked totally different to the 1960s one (the 105E). The earliest Ford Anglia seems to have been around in the late 1940s (it was also called the Ford Popular) and looked a bit like a London black taxi cab - large, and very rounded on top. Then there was one that looked more like the 105E, smaller than the earlier car, but less 'pointy' at the back than the later one. So, which model would it be? The 1960s one seems to be the best bet (especially as it's turquoise - that's SOOOOO 1960s), but I think a clapped-out 1940s model would better suit the Weasley family. Anyway - enough about this! I'll let you know if I find one... Neil From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 23:14:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 19:14:00 -0400 Subject: Chapters 1-4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1594 From: sarvalsha Subject: Re: Chapters 1-4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1591] Chapters 1-4 Date: 6/2/00 7:14 pm (ET) 1. Now that I have read and re-read and listened and re-listened to each of the books, I usually skip most of the Dursley material. Except I do love some of the stuff in these chapters. Like the snake and the letters. It isn't so much that they sent Harry to the Dursleys in the first place that I find hard to understand. It's that they continue to send him knowing what it's like. So I'm going to be very interested in the explanation. Also why the Dursleys continue to take him back. 2. Not only is it great what she didn't say. It's that we don't find out the significance until TWO books later. Makes you wonder what other things you've just passed by. 3. I never thought about that time gap. Maybe Hagrid was just having so much fun being able to do magic that he took as much time as possible. Of course Professor Dumbledore wasn't expecting him until then either. The one thing that always bothers me though reading about the celebrations is how little mourning is being done for the Potters. I mean Voldemort's gone but at a great cost. And other than Professors McGonagall and Dumbledore, all we hear about is how wonderful it all is. 4. I too love the letters. I think that was when I realized how special the book was going to be. It's all handled so imaginatively. I also love the idea of owls delivering the mail. Not just that it's owls. But also that they are capable of delivering mail to people even when the sender doesn't know where they are. And when Hedwig shows up at the Leaky Cauldron after Harry ran away; and when she went to Hermione in France so Harry would get a birthday present. Another thing that I always notice about the letter thing is that even though Dudley wants to know what's in the letters, when his father makes him get the mail the day after the first letter arrives, Dudley tells everyone another one has arrived instead of simply reading it. Not a very bright boy, is he? Margaret From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 23:16:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 19:16:00 -0400 Subject: German Book Covers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1595 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: German Book Covers Reply To: [Yahoo! #1586] Re: German Book Covers Date: 6/2/00 7:16 pm (ET) I agree that the German covers are quite cool, but get a load of the Finnish ones!!!! What sort of warped mind sketched those monsters? Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 23:48:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 19:48:00 -0400 Subject: Harry and King Arthur Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1596 From: Danemead Subject: Harry and King Arthur Date: 6/2/00 7:48 pm (ET) I posted this on harrypotteranonymous, but someone reminded me that not everyone on this list is signed up there as well. I thought this might be an interesting topic to discuss for Chap 1-4 of the first book: I was thinking about the first few chapters of HP BOOK I, and how so many children's fairy tales start out with descriptions of the physical and/or mental abuse of the main character in childhood. My thoughts jumped to a comparison of one of the versions of the tale of the young boyhood of King Arthur, who was apprenticed to a knight as a child, referred to as "Wart", and treated a little less kindly than the castle dogs. I think Arthur was about Harry's age in "Sorcerer's Stone" when he pulled the sword from the stone and learned he was the future King of Britain. Very much along those lines, Dumbledore explains to Minerva just why he is placing the baby Harry with the Dursleys. I guess the object of these literary devices is to teach the child humility or something. BECAUSE he will one day be so famous and powerful, Dumbledore wants him to grow up thinking he is lower than dirt? Surely he could have been raised by a kindly and discreet wizard family out in the boondocks somewhere away from anything that could clue him in to his fame? I know there are a great number of people who have managed to turn a bitter childhood into a character-strengthening asset, but many more whose minds and souls are corrupted by the experience. Any thoughts about this phenomenon? Did JKR make Harry an abused child to gain our sympathy or merely to draw parallels with other great myths and legends? From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 2 23:53:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 19:53:00 -0400 Subject: Chapters 1-4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1597 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Chapters 1-4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1591] Chapters 1-4 Date: 6/2/00 7:53 pm (ET) 1. I was amazed at how much I'd missed on my first reading of the book! Isn't it odd that Dumbledore doesn't recognise McGonagall as a tabby cat? Surely he would have seen her animagus before! (She says, "How did you know it was me?") I don't think I realised I was captivated by the story until the very very end of Chapter one, where Harry is left on the doorstep. 2/3. I find it strange that Harry had absolutely no friends until he started at Hogwarts. In Ch. 2 we learn that "at school, Harry had no one"... because no one wanted to cross Dudley's gang, and in Ch. 3 it says "he had no friends, no other relatives". Along with the abuse Harry suffered, how could he possibly have turned out to be so balanced, charming and popular from age 11 onwards? I guess the wretched upbringing adds to the 'rags to riches' element of the story (perhaps the film version should film the Muggle world in black and white and the Magic world in colour... that would be a good contrast). 4. I agree that the chapter on the letters is a real turning point. I particularly like the last address on his letter: "Mr H Potter, The Floor, Hut-on-the-Rock, The Sea". The slightly sarcastic humour in the writing is one of the special things for me - it's quite an adult concept in a children's book. Ch 1-4 seem to be defining the Dursleys and Hagrid as the main comedy characters in the books, but they are really littered with hidden clues and references to later events. We should read between the lines! Neil From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 00:02:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 20:02:00 -0400 Subject: Chapters 1-4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1598 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Chapters 1-4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1594] Re: Chapters 1-4 Date: 6/2/00 8:02 pm (ET) Hi: Glad to have you posting again Sarvalsha! <The one thing that always bothers me though reading about the celebrations is how little mourning is being done for the Potters. I mean Voldemort's gone but at a great cost. And other than Professors McGonagall and Dumbledore, all we hear about is how wonderful it all is.> I hadn't really thought about that before. We don't really know too much about the celebrations though -- maybe they are also lamenting the death of the Potters even though they're celebrating the demise of Voldemort. To bring up my religious allegory again, they are also IMO celebrating the victory of a "savior" (not just Voldemort's downfall in & of itself). <Another thing that I always notice about the letter thing is that even though Dudley wants to know what's in the letters, when his father makes him get the mail the day after the first letter arrives, Dudley tells everyone another one has arrived instead of simply reading it. Not a very bright boy, is he?> I thought of that myself when I was re-listening to my Sorcerer's tapes for the bazillionth time. Funny how you find something new or different or funny each time you read/hear these books. :--) I like the King Arthur parallel Danemead. Jumping ahead, but I've always seen some King Arthuresque elements in the final dramatic scene in the Chamber of Secrets. But, I hadn't ever thought about the fact that Arthur lived an ordinary or deprived childhood as a sort of preparation for his later greatness. Great point! Penny Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 00:08:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 20:08:00 -0400 Subject: Chapters 1-4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1599 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Chapters 1-4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1597] Re: Chapters 1-4 Date: 6/2/00 8:08 pm (ET) Me again! <2/3. I find it strange that Harry had absolutely no friends until he started at Hogwarts. In Ch. 2 we learn that "at school, Harry had no one"... because no one wanted to cross Dudley's gang, and in Ch. 3 it says "he had no friends, no other relatives". Along with the abuse Harry suffered, how could he possibly have turned out to be so balanced, charming and popular from age 11 onwards?> Exactly! How *did* he turn out to be such an inherently good person and so capable of being sociable, moral, etc.?? Given the picture painted of his life, he should, by all accounts, be completely devoid of social skills & the ability to feel & express emotions. One would think. He is painted as somewhat shy & awkward, but nevertheless, he is also a leader and makes friends with Ron & others quickly enough. Interesting point to ponder, isn't it? Penny From pt4ever at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 00:40:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 20:40:00 -0400 Subject: Chapters 1-4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1600 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Chapters 1-4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1599] Re: Chapters 1-4 Date: 6/2/00 8:40 pm (ET) >>> Exactly! How *did* he turn out to be such an inherently good person and so capable of being sociable, moral, etc.?? Given the picture painted of his life, he should, by all accounts, be completely devoid of social skills & the ability to feel & express emotions. One would think. He is painted as somewhat shy & awkward, but nevertheless, he is also a leader and makes friends with Ron & others quickly enough. >>> Remember at the end of Sorcerer's Stone, when Quirrel couldn't touch Harry without his skin blistering? Dumbledore said that because Harry's mother died to save him, it placed a powerful countercharm on him. Riddle said something to the same effect in CoS. Perhaps that's the reason Harry managed to be a "normal" kid -- the powerful magic of his parents' love kept him from feeling too unloved and neglected. After all, in both the Muggle and Magic worlds, the love of a mother and/or father for a child is a powerful thing. Although Harry didn't grow up with his parents, their love for him remained with him and kept him from suffering psychological trauma due to treatment from the Dursleys. That's my guess, anyway. :) -- JoAnna From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 00:56:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 20:56:00 -0400 Subject: Chapters 1-4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1601 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Chapters 1-4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1599] Re: Chapters 1-4 Date: 6/2/00 8:56 pm (ET) We're probably meant to be puzzled by the contrast between Harry's upbringing and his character, because it enhances the fact that he is a unique individual. He defeated Voldemort and if he has that power in him, it ought to shield him from the harsh experiences of the Muggle world. *** "I've written them a letter" What exactly was in the letter Dumbledore wrote to the Dursleys? Hagrid and Prof McGonagall obviously think the letter explains who Harry is, what happened to his parents and when to tell him everything etc. but... (a) the Dursleys know all about Hogwarts already - Petunia's sister Lily went there, after all. As Dumbledore says, they will "be able to explain everything to him when he's older." (b) they seem to be under some unswerving obligation to look after Harry. If they hate him that much, why didn't they just drop him on another doorstep? He had no other relatives... (c) why write to Dursleys about Harry being a wizard etc? He'd get a letter from Hogwarts anyway, when he was 11 and Dumbledore didn't want him to know anything until he was "ready to take it". Conclusion: Dumbledore asked, charmed or paid the Dursleys to treat Harry the way they did... or said something else entirely in that letter. Perhaps... Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 00:59:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 20:59:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1602 From: Danemead Subject: Harry's Parents Date: 6/2/00 8:59 pm (ET) A couple of points on James and Lily: Is Lily the child of Muggle parents? Or was Aunt Petunia a Squib in a wizard family? No one ever mentions the mother & father of Lily and Petunia, except when Petunia complains about how proud her parents were of Lily's being a witch. What about James' family... was he an only child, and were both of his parents already dead when Harry was born? I'd love to see a little bit more of Harry's heritage explored in future books. 2. Why do so many people tell Harry that he looks almost exactly like his father, except that he has his mother's eyes? Didn't I read somewhere that JKR said that "his mother's eyes" were an important future plot point? Or did I dream that? 3. What did Harry's parents DO for a living? Was James Potter from a wealthy old wizarding family, that he was able to leave such a fortune to his son? I guess that's enough for one message From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 01:06:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:06:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1603 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1602] Harry's Parents Date: 6/2/00 9:06 pm (ET) 2. Why do so many people tell Harry that he looks almost exactly like his father, except that he has his mother's eyes? Didn't I read somewhere that JKR said that "his mother's eyes" were an important future plot point? Or did I dream that? She did say that. But, is Lily Harry's real mother? He may have his 'mother's' eyes, but does he have Lily's eyes? Just a thought. Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 01:17:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:17:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1604 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1603] Re: Harry's Parents Date: 6/2/00 9:17 pm (ET) When Harry looks in the Mirror of Erised, doesn't he note the eyes of the woman standing next to the man with scruffy black hair and glasses? He knows that's his Dad because it looks like him, and the woman standing next to him and waving must be his mom because she has green eyes? And since his greatest desire was to see his parents, then that is what he IS seeing... mom and dad/James and Lily. And what about all the wizard photos in the album Hagrid gave him. Surely they show her green eyes, too. From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 01:19:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:19:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1605 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1602] Harry's Parents Date: 6/2/00 9:19 pm (ET) Lily IS the child of muggle parents. It says as much in CoS - after Malfoy calls Hermione a mudblood, and they go to Hagrid's hut and complain about him, he mentions that some of the best wizards and withches come from muggle families "look at your mother, Harry!" (or something like that - books are at home; I'm at my dad's house for the weekend. Also, at the end of CoS, Riddle calls Harry a "half-blood", just like him, referring to the fact that Lily was muggle-born. Jen From Danemead at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 01:20:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:20:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1606 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1604] Re: Harry's Parents Date: 6/2/00 9:20 pm (ET) Oops, what I was going to say in the previous reply was that it seems to me that "having your mother's eyes" may mean MUCH MORE than just having green eyes like your mom. There was some special power in Lily Potter's eyes that Harry has inherited that will come into play in a future plot... kinda like when he found out he was a Parselmouth. He had an unknown talent that set him apart from the others. We know that he has SOMETHING very special about him that was capable of destroying Voldemort's power. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 01:24:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:24:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1607 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1604] Re: Harry's Parents Date: 6/2/00 9:24 pm (ET) "When Harry looks in the Mirror of Erised, doesn't he note the eyes of the woman standing next to the man with scruffy black hair and glasses? He knows that's his Dad because it looks like him, and the woman standing next to him and waving must be his mom because she has green eyes?" Yes, but is that woman Lily Potter? If his desire is to see his parents he *would* see his mother there, but it might not be Lily. Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 01:29:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:29:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1608 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1607] Re: Harry's Parents Date: 6/2/00 9:29 pm (ET) >>>>Yes, but is that woman Lily Potter? If his desire is to see his parents he *would* see his mother there, but it might not be Lily. <<<< What plot are you dreaming up? This is intriguing!!! Let us hear some of the ideas you have as to Harry's real mom. From Danemead at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 01:38:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:38:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1609 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1605] Re: Harry's Parents Date: 6/2/00 9:38 pm (ET) Thanks Jen - I missed that, or forgot it. The study of Muggle vs Magic Genetic Material might make for an intriguing career. What is in the DNA of two Muggle dentists that produced the magical Hermione? Is it a dominant or recessive gene in the human race? Hmmmmm >>> Jen wrote: VLily IS the child of muggle parents. It says as much in CoS - after Malfoy calls Hermione a mudblood, and they go to Hagrid's hut and complain about him, he mentions that some of the best wizards and withches come from muggle families "look at your mother, Harry!" (or something like that - books are at home; I'm at my dad's house for the weekend. Also, at the end of CoS, Riddle calls Harry a "half-blood", just like him, referring to the fact that Lily was muggle-born. Jen From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 01:44:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 21:44:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1610 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1608] Re: Harry's Parents Date: 6/2/00 9:44 pm (ET) "What plot are you dreaming up? This is intriguing!!! Let us hear some of the ideas you have as to Harry's real mom." Well, I don't have names! I'm just speculating wildly, and probably getting it wrong as usual. I notice that Harry dreams of a green flash in connection with the Voldemort attack, and he has green eyes... ...alright, that's clutching at straws. Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 02:51:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 22:51:00 -0400 Subject: Advance Orders Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1611 From: Danemead Subject: Advance Orders Date: 6/2/00 10:51 pm (ET) I just popped over to Amazon.com to look for some books and they have a Harry Potter counter on the page, showing how many advance orders they have for copies of Book #4. So far it's 130,408. Wouldn't you hate to work in the shipping department on July 8th? From Danemead at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 02:58:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 22:58:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1612 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1610] Re: Harry's Parents Date: 6/2/00 10:58 pm (ET) Good point! That would open up a whole new universe of possibilities. I never made the connection between the green light and their green eyes. What if Harry's mom was still alive somewhere.... Wheeeee! Hagrid didn't mention seeing the bodies, did he? If the house was blown to smithereens, why was Harry's only injury the scar on his forehead. (What ARE smithereens, anyway? Sorry...that ??? just popped into my head). >>>>>Neil wrote: Well, I don't have names! I'm just speculating wildly, and probably getting it wrong as usual. I notice that Harry dreams of a green flash in connection with the Voldemort attack, and he has green eyes... From m_j_beeman at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 03:44:00 2000 From: m_j_beeman at yahoo.com (m_j_beeman at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 02 Jun 2000 23:44:00 -0400 Subject: Advance Orders Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1613 From: m_j_beeman Subject: Re: Advance Orders Reply To: [Yahoo! #1611] Advance Orders Date: 6/2/00 11:44 pm (ET) That's nothing, Book number four has been on Amazon's bestseller list for the last two weeks and the list at Barnes & Noble.Com for the last four weeks. And that is just the internet, folks, would anyone like to guess how many copies are pre-ordered at all the bookstores across the country? and that is only people who know it's coming out. It's going to straight to number one on the NYT list of the week of July 8th. I would say that they could easily sell 2-5, even 10 million copies in the first week. From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 04:08:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 00:08:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1614 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1607] Re: Harry's Parents Date: 6/3/00 12:08 am (ET) <Yes, but is that woman Lily Potter? If his desire is to see his parents he *would* see his mother there, but it might not be Lily.> But he also saw Lily's picture in the wedding album Hagrid put together for him. If they were different women, would Harry ask about it, or at least think it strange? From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 04:09:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 00:09:00 -0400 Subject: Oops, quick fingers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1615 From: melaniem68 Subject: Oops, quick fingers Reply To: [Yahoo! #1614] Re: Harry's Parents Date: 6/3/00 12:09 am (ET) I meant *wouldn't* Harry ask about it or think it strange. From cj_bsm at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 04:11:00 2000 From: cj_bsm at yahoo.com (cj_bsm at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 00:11:00 -0400 Subject: New Puzzle Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1616 From: cj_bsm Subject: Re: New Puzzle Reply To: [Yahoo! #1589] New Puzzle Date: 6/3/00 12:11 am (ET) For those of us attempting the puzzle, you can even out the spacing easily by copying the puzzle into a word processing program (WORD) and then changing the font to Courier. Courier puts the same space between each letter. Just a tip cj From davehoz at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 04:58:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 00:58:00 -0400 Subject: Chapters 1-4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1617 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Chapters 1-4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1597] Re: Chapters 1-4 Date: 6/3/00 12:58 am (ET) >2/3. I find it strange that Harry had absolutely >no friends until he started at Hogwarts. I don't find this odd... The thugs at my elementary school did a pretty efficient job in intimidating everyone from making friends with *me*... From davehoz at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 05:06:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 01:06:00 -0400 Subject: Chapters 1-4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1618 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Chapters 1-4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1591] Chapters 1-4 Date: 6/3/00 1:06 am (ET) >I love the fact that Sirius Black was introduced >to us in this chapter, without the slightest clue >about his later importance. She seems to like to do this... The rumor mill says that the next DADA professor will be someone who is mentioned in passing in PoA. (I won't spoil it by saying whom.) Does anyone besides me think that Daedalus Diggory (mentioned in Book 1 Chapter 1) will become an important character at some point? (With the mythological name "Daedalus" I reckon he's either a Pro Quidditch player or holds the patent on the Firebolt.) From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 05:28:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 01:28:00 -0400 Subject: Chapters 1-4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1619 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Chapters 1-4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1618] Re: Chapters 1-4 Date: 6/3/00 1:28 am (ET) First: I don't believe the rumor mill on this one. I'll try not to spoil it, but tell you why, anyway. Thus, here is a spoiler! s p o i l e r h e r e There, hope that's enough space. I believe you're speaking of the rumor that the new DADA teacher will have a "magical eye", and will be none other than Davey Gudgeon, the boy Lupin mentions when telling Harry (the first time) about the whomping willow. However, Lupin tells Harry that Davey *almost* lost an eye - he didn't lose it. Now, if the new theory is that the whomping willow somehow made that eye magical, that would be something different altogether. Second: it's Daedalus Diggle and Cedric Diggory. ;) (wonder if long ago in their respective families they were once related... things like that happen in family trees...) Jen From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 05:32:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 01:32:00 -0400 Subject: question from chapters 1-4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1620 From: jenP_97 Subject: question from chapters 1-4 Date: 6/3/00 1:32 am (ET) Okay. I just read _Circle of Friends_ by Maeve Binchy, and it called to mind a question that I've never gotten around to asking. Can anyone (thank goodness we've had a recent influx of Brits to the club to call upon for bits of useful knowledge) tell me what the heck a Knickerbocker Glory is? All I can make out is that it's some sort of ice cream wonder, but is there some specific formula for making it that's known throughout the UK? Jen (who is too scared to try the "SOS" (Superior Oversized Sundae) at Superior Dairy (local ice cream place), but thinks that Dudley would probably want to take a crack at it) From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 07:29:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 03:29:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1621 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1614] Re: Harry's Parents Date: 6/3/00 3:29 am (ET) "But he also saw Lily's picture in the wedding album Hagrid put together for him. If they were different women, would Harry ask about it, or at least think it strange?" Okay, here endeth my 'mother's eyes' theory. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 07:44:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 03:44:00 -0400 Subject: question from chapters 1-4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1622 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: question from chapters 1-4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1620] question from chapters 1-4 Date: 6/3/00 3:44 am (ET) A Knickerbocker Glory is a really massive ice-cream dessert, consisting mostly of fruit, ice-cream and whipped cream, piled really high, with a cherry on the top. Not useful as part of a calorie-controlled diet! It comes in a certain type of tall glass (at least 12 inches high) which splays out at the top, and you sometimes get a really long spoon to eat it with. I assume that the glass looks like the leg of a pair of Victorian knickerbockers (the origin of the word 'knickers', BTW) - hence the name, but that's a guess. When I was a kid, this would be the ultimate dessert to have in any cheap restaurant. To Harry, therefore, it would seem like the height of luxury! Neil From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 07:55:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 03:55:00 -0400 Subject: Chapters 1-4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1623 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Chapters 1-4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1618] Re: Chapters 1-4 Date: 6/3/00 3:55 am (ET) <Does anyone besides me think that Daedalus Diggory (mentioned in Book 1 Chapter 1) will become an important character at some point? (With the mythological name "Daedalus" I reckon he's either a Pro Quidditch player or holds the patent on the Firebolt.) > I wonder if he's related to Cedric Diggory, the captain and seeker of the Hufflepuff Quidditch team in POA. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 08:04:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 04:04:00 -0400 Subject: PS on Knickerbockers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1624 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: PS on Knickerbockers Reply To: [Yahoo! #1622] Re: question from chapters 1-4 Date: 6/3/00 4:04 am (ET) My dictionary mentions that 'Knickerbocker' was a nickname for someone from New York, who was descended from the original Dutch settlers. Neil From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 12:22:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 08:22:00 -0400 Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1625 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/3/00 8:22 am (ET) Hi: Boy, lots of discussion last night on all sorts of topics. IMO, the fact that it is stressed again & again that Harry has his mother's eyes has something to do with Snape. I think the relationship between Harry having his mother's eyes and Snape's hatred of Harry will be revealed in a later book. I think we've floated this theory before but here it is again. Snape was in love with Lily (whether secretly or openly I can't guess) at Hogwarts, and hence his hatred of James Potter had at least as much or more to do with James & Lily's relationship than it had to do with James' Quidditch skills. I don't know if I believe Snape was actually spurned by Lily or if he just had this from afar wild love for her that was completely unrequited. In any case, I think whenever Snape looks into Harry's eyes, he's reminded of Lily. And, of course, since Harry otherwise looks exactly like James, this infuriates Snape. Hence, his horrible treatment of Harry. As for Lily and whether or not she's really Harry's mum, I think the Mirror of Erised and the photo album do establish that Lily Potter was his mum. And, actually, Hagrid did say in Sorcerer's Stone that he saw the bodies of Harry's parents, didn't he?? Plus, for so many people to comment that Harry has his mother's eyes would add support to the fact that it must be Lily. Penny From b_drey at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 16:19:00 2000 From: b_drey at yahoo.com (b_drey at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 12:19:00 -0400 Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1626 From: b_drey Subject: Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1625] Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/3/00 12:19 pm (ET) Penny - good idea to read all the books - since I just finished doing that! I thought the Harry/Snape thing was because the "gang of four" almost killed Snape in a practical joke and James--whom Snape hated and was jealous of--saved him (POA). Also, I don't think we should intellectualize the Dursley/child abuse thing too much - after all, these are (or started as) children's books and a lot of fairy tales have that Cinderella aspect of a bad life magically becoming a good life. I know that I, as a child and as an adult, love that theme. My mother's favorite book as a child was the one about the little princess living in poverty in the school tower because they thought she was poor and abandoned. Finally (and then I'll shut up), Harry's bad childhood is mentioned, but mostly not "lived" in the books - I think the Dursleys are meant to be sort of comic relief (??) and to give that Cinderella feeling to the story. Barbara From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 16:49:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 12:49:00 -0400 Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1627 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1625] Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/3/00 12:49 pm (ET) <Snape was in love with Lily> I was actually going to post the same theory when I turned on the computer, and lo and behold, there it already was. I guess great Ravenclaw minds think alike. :) If Snape was in love with Lily *and* otherwise competitive with James, he might have several levels of resentment. Aside from the obvious of wanting Lily for her own sake, he might be thinking everything from "James beat me out *again*!" to "If she'd married me, she'd still be alive!" And, like Penny said, when Snape sees someone who looks like James "strutting" (his word, not mine) around with Lily's eyes, it reminds him all over again. Melanie From m4mitchell at yahoo.com Sat Jun 3 20:02:00 2000 From: m4mitchell at yahoo.com (m4mitchell at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 03 Jun 2000 16:02:00 -0400 Subject: Scholastic Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1628 From: m4mitchell Subject: Scholastic Date: 6/3/00 4:02 pm (ET) Has anyone gone to the Scholastic Harry Potter site(http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter/home.asp) lately? 'Cause they've updated it, and it's much better then it used to be. There's also a Wizard Trivia game - and you can also suggest more questions for it. ~Mairi~ From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 4 14:20:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 10:20:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid & Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1629 From: babynick34 Subject: Hagrid & Harry Date: 6/4/00 10:20 am (ET) Hi all I know we have probably said this before, but I've been rereading Chapter 1, Philosophers Stone and have been thinking Aren't Harry and Hagrid rather similar? I mean... they both have wild black hair. They are both liked by Dumbledore. They both get up to adventures. They both like animals. They are both sort-of outcasts. Perhaps they are related? Just a thought. Nick. From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com Sun Jun 4 21:52:00 2000 From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (daughterofthedust at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 17:52:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid & Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1630 From: DaughteroftheDust Subject: Re: Hagrid & Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #1629] Hagrid & Harry Date: 6/4/00 5:52 pm (ET) I don't know...That's an interesting question. I have another minor prediction for the next book. I bet the next Defence Against the Dark Arts teacher will be a vampire...*heh,heh* Since thy joked about it in the end of the last book. From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com Sun Jun 4 22:08:00 2000 From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (daughterofthedust at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 18:08:00 -0400 Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1631 From: DaughteroftheDust Subject: Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1625] Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/4/00 6:08 pm (ET) That's a good theory, I just can't see Snape holding that much resentment inside for so many years over what was essentially a childhood prank (albeit, a life-threatening prank). Your "unrequited love" theory, would definitely fit. Has Snapes ever commented about Harry's eyes? I just finished the last book by the way (I really liked Scabbers!! *sigh* Oh, well). From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sun Jun 4 23:25:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 19:25:00 -0400 Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1632 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1626] Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/4/00 7:25 pm (ET) Hi: <I thought the Harry/Snape thing was because the "gang of four" almost killed Snape in a practical joke and James--whom Snape hated and was jealous of--saved him (POA).> Well, we definitely know that is *one* reason why Snape would dislike James Potter. And, maybe he has transferred some of his dislike to Harry for that reason. But, that may not be the *only* reason he disliked James & still dislikes Harry. Since JKR has said that the importance of all the references to Harry having his mother's eyes will be made clear later, I am theorizing that Snape was in love in Lily and that Harry's eyes remind him of Lily (and his unrequited love for her). Just a theory, but it does *seem* that Snape becomes most vicious when he's looked Harry in the face. I agree that the Dursleys provide that "fairy tale" quality to the stories. But, outside of a fairy tale (or a fantasy novel such as the HP books!), a child who had that experience might *not* turn out very well. Personally, I liked JoAnna's theory that Harry's parents' love for him provided him with a moral compass and prevented him from becoming disconnected, anti-social, etc. as a result of his treatment by the Dursleys. That's a nice thought. :--) Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sun Jun 4 23:31:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 19:31:00 -0400 Subject: Winner of Word Scramble Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1633 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Winner of Word Scramble Date: 6/4/00 7:31 pm (ET) Hi: We have a winner in the Word Scramble -- flying_ford_anglia (a/k/a Neil) got 21 of 22 correct. Like I told him, the 22nd word was actually probably way too difficult in retrospect. Neil was the only person to email me so I hope I didn't make it too hard. :--) Here are the words that were in the puzzle: Ollivander Privet Tabby Cat Treacle Pudding Remembrall Beater Pig Snout Corridor Prefect Blimey Erised Bane Harry's Scar Chess Logic Elixir House Cup Ron Granger Ghost Trevor #22 -- Oy (okay, probably too buried & too arcane) Neil can devise our next "activity"! Penny From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 4 23:39:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 19:39:00 -0400 Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1634 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1632] Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/4/00 7:39 pm (ET) I think Snape was to Harry's father as Draco is to Harry. Someone with a real hunger for power and adulation, who resents terribly the classmate who has all the gifts of popularity and success. Imagine if Draco grew up and (Merlin forbid!) became a professor at Hogwarts. I can see him hating a student who was the son of Harry Potter. If a person like Snape or Draco is sufficiently small-minded and morally deficient, the resentment of their childhood could easily carry over into adulthood. From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Jun 5 01:13:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 21:13:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1635 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1609] Re: Harry's Parents Date: 6/4/00 9:13 pm (ET) >Thanks Jen - I missed that, or forgot it. The study of Muggle vs Magic Genetic Material might >make for an intriguing career. What is in the DNA of two Muggle dentists that produced the magical >Hermione? Is it a dominant or recessive gene in the human race? Hmmmmm I dunno... But while fairly certain that I'm a Muggle, I like to think that I'm a "carrier" of wizarding powers. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 5 03:31:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 23:31:00 -0400 Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1636 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1634] Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/4/00 11:31 pm (ET) I'm still on the Mother's eyes thing... I think Lily had green eyes because she carried something which protected her against dark forces (or maybe a dark force in itself). I think the green flash Harry sees in his visions is not from Voldemort's attack, it's from Lily, passing the protective force from herself to her baby. Perhaps she died, unprotected, in order to protect her son. Lily's origins are certainly a key factor... She may have been a Slytherin (as someone has suggested), she may have been a parselmouth even, and she may have been involved with Tom Riddle. Okay, Harry is a 'true' Gryffindor, but does that mean he couldn't have a Slytherin parent? I think the sorting hat sorts people on their own merits, not because of their family history (although, in most cases, people from the same family seem to end up in the same house). Now, it looks like I have the dubious honour of devising an activity for you, so I'd better get my wand out! Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 5 05:19:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 01:19:00 -0400 Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1637 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1636] Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/5/00 1:19 am (ET) >>>>>Neil wrote: I think the sorting hat sorts people on their own merits, not because of their family history although, in most cases, people from the same family seem to end up in the same house). <<<<<< Me: I found this ODD, because you usually have a mix of personality types in a family. What are the odds that ALL the Weasleys would end up in Gryffindor? Bill and Charlie were brainy, Percy is pompous, Fred & George are fun-loving, Ginny is shy. Yet they all end up in the same house. (By the way, one of the things I like about the "Paradigm of Uncertainty" fan fic is the explanation given for why Hermione, a Ravenclaw type, was put in Gryffindor instead.) I do remember Hagrid saying that James and Lily were Head Boy and Girl in their time at Hogwarts. It sounds like that post was awarded to the persons who got the most points on their O.W.L.'s. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 5 05:49:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 01:49:00 -0400 Subject: Sorting anomalies Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1638 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Sorting anomalies Reply To: [Yahoo! #1637] Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/5/00 1:49 am (ET) Danemead wrote: "I found this ODD, because you usually have a mix of personality types in a family. What are the odds that ALL the Weasleys would end up in Gryffindor? Bill and Charlie were brainy, Percy is pompous, Fred & George are fun-loving, Ginny is shy. Yet they all end up in the same house." Comment: There does seem to be some sort of family link, but perhaps Harry isn't the only one who *could* have ended up in a different house. Perhaps some of the Weasleys were offered an alternative by the hat, but chose to go into Gryffindor because it was a family tradition. I haven't seen the fanfic you mentioned - where is it? Neil From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 5 07:13:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 03:13:00 -0400 Subject: Sorting Hat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1639 From: melaniem68 Subject: Sorting Hat Reply To: [Yahoo! #913] Re: Sorting Hat Date: 6/5/00 3:13 am (ET) Two months ago, I mentioned here that I was working on a Sorting Quiz (not the Meyers-Briggs one), and would post it here when I finished. Well, it's ready! I've posted it on my new HP web site (using the Yahoo ID, ravenclawlady). If you'd like, I can also post it in this club (just say the word). But, since I've also used a few other ideas I've gotten from these discussions, I thought you all might want to check it out. The address is: http://www.geocities.com/ravenclawlady Or, to go straight to the Sorting Hat, http://www.geocities.com/ravenclawlady/sorting.html Unfortunately, I couldn't find software to instantly score the test; it sends me an e-mail, so I can hand-score the quiz and e-mail the results to the quiz-taker. Maybe that's why all the sorting hats I've seen on the web are either randomly generated, or just ask the person what house they want to be in. But, I'm also starting to teach myself Java, so maybe soon I'll be able to make it self-scoring. Hope you like it. MelanieM68 aka RavenclawLady From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 5 07:31:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 03:31:00 -0400 Subject: Giving credit where it's due Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1640 From: melaniem68 Subject: Giving credit where it's due Date: 6/5/00 3:31 am (ET) Another thing I'll be putting on my site is a list of "Favorite Songs at Hogwarts" from the "Favorite Songs" thread last month. Since many of you mentioned songs I ended up using, I want to give you credit for contributing. But I also respect your privacy, and don't want to put your names in without permission. Here is what I have on that page (which isn't yet "visible" on the web) at this point. For those whose first names I know, that's what I used. For those whose first names I didn't know, I used your Yahoo ID. If anyone doesn't want to be listed, or wants their name put in diffently, e-mail me privately at melaniem68 at yahoo.com. Thanks for all your help, Melanie Popular Songs at Hogwarts Pinball Wizard - The Who (Have to Believe We are) Magic - Olivia Newton-John Magic Man - Heart (contributed by estesrandy) I Put a Spell on You - Bette Middler This Magic Moment - Jay and the Americans (contributed by Andy) (It's) Magic - Pilot Abracadabra - Steve Miller Band (contributed by Christine) You Can Do Magic - America Witchy Woman (contributed by Voicelady) Witchcraft A Kind of Magic - Queen (contributed by Christine) Magic Bus - The Who Every Little Thing She Does is Magic - The Police (contributed by estesrandy) Could it be Magic? - Barry Manilow (contributed by Voicelady) That Old Black Magic (contributed by Voicelady) Do You Believe in Magic? - Lovin' Spoonful (contributed by Penny) Professors' Favorite Songs Snape: Love Potion #9 Hagrid: Puff the Magic Dragon - Peter, Paul and Mary (contributed by Voicelady), Purple People Eater (contributed by Darwin) Pomfrey: Spoonful of Sugar from Mary Poppins (contributed by JoAnna) Quirrell: I'm Going Out of My Head Over You (contributed by estesrandy), I've Got You Under My Skin (contributed by estesrandy) Lockhart: I Feel Pretty from West Side Story (contributed by JoAnn), You're So Vain - Carly Simon Lupin: Werewolves in London - Warren Zevon (contributed by CJ) Trelawney: Crystal Ball - Styx From m_j_beeman at yahoo.com Mon Jun 5 07:37:00 2000 From: m_j_beeman at yahoo.com (m_j_beeman at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 03:37:00 -0400 Subject: 3.8 million copies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1641 From: m_j_beeman Subject: 3.8 million copies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 6/5/00 3:37 am (ET) Scholastic will be releasing 3.8 million copies of Harry Potter #4 on July 8th, as reported in teh Raleigh News & Observers today. Just thought you would all like to know. P.S. Just for reference, Stephen King's last book sold 1.3 million copies. From cj_bsm at yahoo.com Mon Jun 5 15:00:00 2000 From: cj_bsm at yahoo.com (cj_bsm at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 11:00:00 -0400 Subject: Sorting anomalies Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1642 From: cj_bsm Subject: Re: Sorting anomalies Reply To: [Yahoo! #1638] Re: Sorting anomalies Date: 6/5/00 11:00 am (ET) Neil wrote: >>>I haven't seen the fanfic you mentioned - where is it?<<<< URL to this page: http://www.egroups.com/group/ParadigmOfUncertainty you don't have to join the egroup to read the story. Its 10 chapters so far. Go to the main page and along the left is a column of other pages. Click on the "files" and all the chapters are there. You can download them or read them on line. They are also posted on fanfic.net. Its a geat story. cj From wulfblat at yahoo.com Mon Jun 5 17:20:00 2000 From: wulfblat at yahoo.com (wulfblat at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 13:20:00 -0400 Subject: Sorting Hat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1643 From: wulfblat Subject: Re: Sorting Hat Reply To: [Yahoo! #1639] Sorting Hat Date: 6/5/00 1:20 pm (ET) Nice hat -- if you'd like help on writing the automatic scoring code, let me know. I created an automated sorting hat that used questions and weighted answers six months ago, but never got around to adding the archiving system I planned to use (maybe I'll do so this month). The sorting hat is at the following URL: http://www.teleport.com/~leonard/sort/sort.html Enjoy, Leonard Bottleman leonard at teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~leonard From b_drey at yahoo.com Mon Jun 5 22:30:00 2000 From: b_drey at yahoo.com (b_drey at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 18:30:00 -0400 Subject: Songs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1644 From: b_drey Subject: Songs Reply To: [Yahoo! #1640] Giving credit where it's due Date: 6/5/00 6:30 pm (ET) How about "moon dance" for Lupin From b_drey at yahoo.com Mon Jun 5 22:45:00 2000 From: b_drey at yahoo.com (b_drey at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 18:45:00 -0400 Subject: Songs for Lupin Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1645 From: b_drey Subject: Re: Songs for Lupin Reply To: [Yahoo! #1644] Songs Date: 6/5/00 6:45 pm (ET) Oh dear! - I'm afraid I could go on forever: Moonlight Becomes You, Blue Moon, Moon over Miami, It's only a Paper Moon, Full Moon and Empty Arms, Moonglow, Shine on Harvest Moon, Moon River, Moon Shadow His book would have to be "Good Night, Moon" and I guess his favorite snack would be . . . You got it . . . Moon Pies! Ok, I'll stop. Barbara From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Mon Jun 5 23:35:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 19:35:00 -0400 Subject: Songs for Lupin Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1646 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Songs for Lupin Reply To: [Yahoo! #1645] Re: Songs for Lupin Date: 6/5/00 7:35 pm (ET) *singing* Oh, I'm being followed by a moonshadow! Moonshadow, moonshadow! etc.etc. (Don't get me started...) From morrigan09 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 00:13:00 2000 From: morrigan09 at yahoo.com (morrigan09 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 20:13:00 -0400 Subject: Songs for Lupin Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1647 From: morrigan09 Subject: Re: Songs for Lupin Reply To: [Yahoo! #1645] Re: Songs for Lupin Date: 6/5/00 8:13 pm (ET) Actually, I always associated him with Blondie's "Atomic". ("Toniiiight, your hair is beautifuull... ",and most of the rest of the lyrics are just howls.) Sorry, just had to get that out of my system! From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 00:20:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 20:20:00 -0400 Subject: Giving credit where it's due Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1648 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Giving credit where it's due Reply To: [Yahoo! #1640] Giving credit where it's due Date: 6/5/00 8:20 pm (ET) Melanie: I love the musical compilation you've created! Now I want the CD! <g> I am very impressed with your website also. And, I'm so happy -- I *knew* I was a Ravenclaw (rather than the Hufflepuff that Meyers/Briggs told me I was)!! Is anyone ready to talk about Chapters 5-8 of Sorcerer's Stone? I'm nearly there -- later tonight. Penny From pt4ever at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 00:47:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 20:47:00 -0400 Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1649 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1636] Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/5/00 8:47 pm (ET) >>>> Lily's origins are certainly a key factor... She may have been a Slytherin (as someone has suggested), she may have been a parselmouth even, and she may have been involved with Tom Riddle. >>>> Lily might have been a Slytherin (or even James -- I don't think it's definitely stated which house he was in) but as for being involved with Riddle, I don't think so. In CoS, it's stated (by Dumbledore, I think) that Tom Riddle had been a student at Hogwarts fifty years ago, which means, if Lily was still alive, she'd over sixty years old. That's pretty old to have a 12-year-old son, unless wizards age differently than Muggles. Unless, of course, Lily was somehow related to Riddle, which could be a possibility. Or perhaps James was related to Riddle! It's said by Riddle himself that he and Harry share many characteristics -- black hair, both half-bloods, etc. Perhaps Riddle/Voldemort is Harry's grandfather, and the reason Riddle/Voldemort wanted to kill James was because the son was trying to thwart his father's evil plans? Possible, but I don't know. It's just a theory. That might make it too Star Wars-ish, anyway. I was also thinking this weekend...since Hagrid went to Hogwarts with Tom Riddle, fifty years ago, that means Hagrid would be over sixty years old as well. He doesn't seem that old! I always thought of him in his late 30's-early 40's. I suppose he could be...I mean, if Dumbledore was a teacher at Hogwarts fifty years ago, he's probably in his 70's-80's. Also, in one of the books (I think it's Sorcerer's Stone) it's mentioned that James, Lily, and Harry Potter lived in a house in "Godric's Hollow" when Voldemort showed up and killed James & Lily. "Godric" as in "Godric Gryffindor," perhaps? -- JoAnna From estesrandy at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 01:50:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 21:50:00 -0400 Subject: More songs for the CD Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1650 From: estesrandy Subject: More songs for the CD Reply To: [Yahoo! #1648] Re: Giving credit where it's due Date: 6/5/00 9:50 pm (ET) Lily Potter- "Green Eyed Lady" A trip to Diagon Alley - "Magical Mystery Tour" Professor Trelawney (couldn't think of an Evil Magic Woman - "Black Magic Woman" ( could be Allegra in Paradigm of Uncertainty" From estesrandy at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 02:08:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 22:08:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Mum Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1651 From: estesrandy Subject: Harry's Mum Date: 6/5/00 10:08 pm (ET) I know this sounds a little strange, but everyone keeps hinting at something peculiar about the fact that Harry has his mother's eyes. And the green flash that he recalls at the encounter with Voldemort. What if Harry literally has his mother's eyes by some magic spell. And these eyes protect him like alot of you have been saying that his mother found a way to protect him. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 05:55:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 01:55:00 -0400 Subject: RECESS FOR MACBETH! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1652 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: RECESS FOR MACBETH! Date: 6/6/00 1:55 am (ET) Okay - Penny invited me to set the next 'activity', so here it is! An anagram plays an important part in "...Chamber of Secrets". Here are 16 anagrams from that book. The first eight are the names of characters, the second eight are 'things'. Some of these could be really difficult (I can't tell, since I have the answers in front of me!), but let's see how you get on, before I provide some more clues... ***8 PEOPLE Tip: The anagrammatical names aren't necessarily the same sex as the person they are hiding. 1. Cardinal Helen Sykes 2 .Sir Forrest Passion 3. Craig Flush 4. Marco A Floyd 5. Lucifer Segundo 6. Evelyn Cicero 7. Antony Glimmer 8. Carmen Millenia ***8 THINGS Tip: There's a clue to each thing, but there are also clues in the anagrams themselves. 1. Fleshy inheritor (an unpopular title) 2. Athiest throng (decisions and divisions) 3. Papery - hold it... (a seer) 4. Boy, illicit via 'skin' (covers a multitude of sins) 5. Cuboid shirt: QED (four-sided - each has a different set) 6. Owl wing with phloem (a variety of beater) 7. Powerful, balky Merlin (an alternative wand) 8. Sign on tracks - 'tis so! (where training begins) E-mail your answers to me at neilward at dircon.co.uk Thanks Neil (flying_ford_anglia) From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 06:07:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 02:07:00 -0400 Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1653 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1649] Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/6/00 2:07 am (ET) "Lily might have been a Slytherin (or even James -- I don't think it's definitely stated which house he was in) but as for being involved with Riddle, I don't think so." I didn't mean 'involved' in that way, but under his influence... perhaps. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 06:22:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 02:22:00 -0400 Subject: RECESS FOR MACBETH! - correction Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1654 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: RECESS FOR MACBETH! - correction Reply To: [Yahoo! #1652] RECESS FOR MACBETH! Date: 6/6/00 2:22 am (ET) Sorry, No. 2 of THINGS should say "Atheist throng" - it doesn't affect the anagram though! Neil From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 07:31:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 03:31:00 -0400 Subject: More songs for the CD Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1655 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Re: More songs for the CD Reply To: [Yahoo! #1650] More songs for the CD Date: 6/6/00 3:31 am (ET) And over in the Forbidden Forest... They play the Mash They play the Monster Mash... From vikar25 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 12:46:00 2000 From: vikar25 at yahoo.com (vikar25 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 08:46:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Mum Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1656 From: vikar25 Subject: Re: Harry's Mum Reply To: [Yahoo! #1651] Harry's Mum Date: 6/6/00 8:46 am (ET) Interesting theory. It adds more humor to "you have your mother's eyes". It is reminicent of the Addam's Family Values. "He has grandfather's eyes." "Gomez! Take those out of his mouth!" In any event, I think that it was more evident that Harry was saved by the power of his mother's love. At least that is what Dumbledore told him. I think it was stated in "Prisoner". And I think that it would make more sense that something like that which was so good and pure would be able to defeat something so evil. And let's face it heredity must have given Harry something of his mother's because Harry is in all other respects the spitting image of his father. Regards, Vikar25 From pt4ever at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 17:16:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 13:16:00 -0400 Subject: Sorting Hat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1657 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Sorting Hat Reply To: [Yahoo! #1639] Sorting Hat Date: 6/6/00 1:16 pm (ET) Woohoo! I'm in Ravenclaw! *cheers* BTW, I noticed something while rereading Sorcerer's Stone last weekend...I'd always thought that Harry's encounter with the Grey Lady, the Ravenclaw ghost, that J.K. Rowling spoke of had happened before the Sorting when the ghosts saw the first year students waited to be sorted. However, when Harry is looking for the Mirror of Esrid, a ghost glides silently by...most likely the Grey Lady. Many apologies if this has been mentioned already! -- JoAnna From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 17:40:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 13:40:00 -0400 Subject: Sorting Hat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1658 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Sorting Hat Reply To: [Yahoo! #1639] Sorting Hat Date: 6/6/00 1:40 pm (ET) Melanie, you did a wonderful job with the new site! My hypothetical hat is off to you! Kudos! From vikar25 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 17:49:00 2000 From: vikar25 at yahoo.com (vikar25 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 13:49:00 -0400 Subject: Sorting Hat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1659 From: vikar25 Subject: Re: Sorting Hat Reply To: [Yahoo! #1657] Re: Sorting Hat Date: 6/6/00 1:49 pm (ET) That would be The Mirror of Erised. I don't know how many of you read the inscription under the mirror but the gibberish translates to English when read backward (as a mirror). ERISED is Desire spelled backward. Regards, vikar25 From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 20:22:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 16:22:00 -0400 Subject: We have a winner! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1660 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: We have a winner! Date: 6/6/00 4:22 pm (ET) Hi everyone... Well, it looks like my anagrams were just *too* easy! Simon Branford has sent me a full set of correct answers, already. He wins, hands down. Maybe I'll wait a bit before posting the answers, though, so that other people can have a go. Penny - I suggested to Simon he should produce the next activity - that is how it works, isn't it? Neil From babynick34 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 20:39:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 16:39:00 -0400 Subject: We have a winner! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1661 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: We have a winner! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1660] We have a winner! Date: 6/6/00 4:39 pm (ET) Congratulations Simon... Obviously someone was bored at work today! I managed to print out the email this morning at work... but didn't manage to get anywhere with it - the phone didn't stop ringing. Oh well - I'm not very good with Anagrams anyway. Nick From babynick34 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 21:01:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:01:00 -0400 Subject: Mugs and Shirts arrived Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1662 From: babynick34 Subject: Mugs and Shirts arrived Date: 6/6/00 5:01 pm (ET) Hi all... well, WB Store have excelled themselves. Placed the order on 31/May/00 and the goods arrived today sometime (I found the box at the bottom of the stairs - I live in a block of flats). I wonder if Fed-Ex are going to send me a customs bill... I doubt it, as they don't usually leave a package if there is duty to pay. Well, on to the goodies. Hogwarts School Mug ------------------- 4.5 inches high. 3 inch diameter Holds 15 FL ozs (3/4 pint - 425ml?) It is navy blue in color. It has the Hogwarts School Crest printed in one side, looks like a 4 color print - maybe 5. When looking at the School Crest... the handle is on the right. The Mug is made in China by Linyi. It is printed at an unknown location... probably somewhere in the US I would guess. Hogwarts School Adult XL Sized T-Shirt -------------------------------------- Now this is nice... it's navy blue in color. It says it's 100% Cotton, 100% Baumwoole (is Baumwoole, French for Cotton?). Made in the U.S.A. source unknown. It has a nice HP tag... someone flying on broom, over the letters HP. The print itself is very good... it is a screen print made up of 4 colors plus silver sparkle. One down side though... it is washable at 20 degrees... not 40... so wash it rarely, and carefully. Gryffindor Adult XL T-Shirt --------------------------- Not as nice as the Hogwarts T-Shirt, not as good a print. It is Grey in color with a Gryffindor Lion shield print on it. The screen print is not as high quality as that on the Hogwarts Shirt... it is a 4 color print. No sparkles this time. Harry Potter Logo Mug --------------------- Another nice mug, made in China, and decorated in the United States. Holds the same amount as the Hogwarts School Mug... but unlike the Hogwarts mug which is the same width from bottom to top, this has a 2 inch diameter base, and 3.5 inch diameter mouth. It is decorated on both sides with the Warner Brothers, Harry Potter logo. The logo is in a metallic gold. According to the manufacturer, it is microwaveable, though it should not be dishwashed - hand wash only with soap and water. There you go... that's the low down on what I got. Nick. From davehoz at yahoo.com Tue Jun 6 21:33:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 17:33:00 -0400 Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1663 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1649] Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/6/00 5:33 pm (ET) >Lily might have been a Slytherin... I still want to know if there's a single Slytherin who is a decent human being. >That might make it too Star Wars-ish, anyway. That's why I reject all the "Harry, I'm your father" scenarios. But while I reject all these theories, including the theory that Lily and Petunia's maiden name is "Riddle", there is one other theory I've heard that I find much more compelling: That Lily and Petunia's maiden name is "Snape"... > ...that means Hagrid would be over sixty years >old as well. He doesn't seem that old! I think wizards *do* age more slowly than Muggles. (But I doubt Lily was chonologically in her 60's.) From morrigan09 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 00:12:00 2000 From: morrigan09 at yahoo.com (morrigan09 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 20:12:00 -0400 Subject: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1664 From: morrigan09 Subject: Re: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Reply To: [Yahoo! #1663] Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/6/00 8:12 pm (ET) >> Lily might have been a Slytherin... >I still want to know if there's a single Slytherin who is a decent human being. Well, since Harry was nearly one the answer's going to be "yes"! Cool Snape theory, though I hold firm to the view that Snape was in love with Lily, (not her brother. ) Oh... and I can't remember if Dumbledore's age is being discussed here or somewhere else, but he defeated Grindelwald in 1945 (does anyone else really like that link between wizarding and real events?). Sorry if that's not relevant here. Some pointless wonderings of my own: WHY does Snape favour Draco? Maybe Lucius Malfoy got him the teaching job? Why won't Dumbledore give him the Defence against the Dark Arts post? I have no clue here, but don't think it's because he doesn't trust him. What did he know about the Chamber of Secrets? More than he was telling, that's clear if you read the book carefully. Why did Sirius try to *kill*him? There must be some back story there. Gaah... Snape is an unsolvable Man of Mystery, to me anyway. If any ingenious person has ideas about him, I'd love to hear them! From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 00:14:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 20:14:00 -0400 Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1665 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1663] Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/6/00 8:14 pm (ET) Okay! I am ready to put money down here... Rowling has deliberately avoided saying which houses James and Lily were in, allow us to lull ourselves into believing both were is Gryffendor. I say Lily was in Slytherin, and that Snape was in love with her, but she got radical and fell for a Gryffendor! I say that Voldemort wanted her to come to his side and that she resisted-- and that marrying James was a part of that resistance! I say her green eyes have some sort of special power, and I am CERTAIN that it is no coinicidence that the flashing Harry saw was green! BTW, was Lucius Malfoy at Hogwarts contemporary to Lily and James? It doesn't seem so, but then their children are all the same age, so it is plausible. Doesn't Malfoy snarl at some point that james and Lily "didn't know what was good for them?" Implying perhaps that they had an offer to come over to the Dark side? Just thoughts..... From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 01:07:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 21:07:00 -0400 Subject: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1666 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Reply To: [Yahoo! #1664] Re: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Date: 6/6/00 9:07 pm (ET) Hi: <<Lily might have been a Slytherin... >I still want to know if there's a single Slytherin who is a decent human being.>> <<Well, since Harry was nearly one the answer's going to be "yes"!>> I think we talked last month at some point about the fact that the Slytherins are not necessarily evil, they are just ambitious & cunning. Ambition can be a good thing, but it can also be used for less than noble ends. So, I would say that there *must* be some decent Slytherins. We just haven't met any yet. As a sidebar, my husband places in Slytherin under all 3 Meyers/Briggs type test results that we talked about last month (so they can't be *all* bad!!). <<Cool Snape theory, though I hold firm to the view that Snape was in love with Lily, (not her brother).>> Hmm . . . the brother thing is interesting. If true, that would mean that Petunia was perhaps the only all-muggle child of Harry's grandparents (unless there were other siblings of course). Wouldn't Petunia have mentioned a brother who was a wizard in her tirade about how her parents favored Lily, the witch, over her, the muggle? No . . . I still adhere to the Snape was in love with Lily theory. He can't harbor *that* much hatred & resentment over James' Quidditch talent *or* even that James' best friend Sirius played a life-threatening joke on him. I think there was some unrequited love thing there. <<Why did Sirius try to *kill*him? There must be some back story there.>> I agree. There's more there than just "oh let's play a funny joke on that meddlesome Snape." Sirius had to have known the joke had the potential to end up with Snape getting killed . . . to do that must have been motivated by something more than just schoolboy rivalry. I agree Snape is a mystery man! Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 01:15:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 21:15:00 -0400 Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1667 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1665] Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/6/00 9:15 pm (ET) Hi: <<Rowling has deliberately avoided saying which houses James and Lily were in, allow us to lull ourselves into believing both were is Gryffendor. I say Lily was in Slytherin, and that Snape was in love with her, but she got radical and fell for a Gryffendor! I say that Voldemort wanted her to come to his side and that she resisted-- and that marrying James was a part of that resistance! I say her green eyes have some sort of special power, and I am CERTAIN that it is no coinicidence that the flashing Harry saw was green!>> Well, I don't know about the Lily as a Slytherin theory (could be true though), but I do think you're on to something about the "green" light that Harry remembers from the night his parents were attacked. Is there any significance to the fact that green smoke billows out of Harry's vault at Gringotts? Could the color green have multiple layers of significance?? Hmm . . . <<BTW, was Lucius Malfoy at Hogwarts contemporary to Lily and James? It doesn't seem so, but then their children are all the same age, so it is plausible.>> I would think they might have been at Hogwarts at around the same time. I've wondered where the Weasleys (Arthur & Molly) fit into the timeline. I've done some rigorous analysis of the probable ages of the Weasley children though, and it would seem that since Bill & Charlie are in their early to mid-20s at the time Harry & Ron are 11-13, doubtful that Arthur & Molly overlapped much at all with James & Lily. I bet Arthur & Molly were hip & happening Hogwarts students in the 1960s, with James, Lily, Sirius, Lupin et al coming later in the 1970s. <<Doesn't Malfoy snarl at some point that james and Lily "didn't know what was good for them?" Implying perhaps that they had an offer to come over to the Dark side?>> There are several references to James & Lily meddling where they shouldn't and not "knowing what was good for them", etc. And, they do apparently have a small fortune by wizarding standards. Where did all the money come from? What were their occupations? How were they running afoul of Voldemort & gang? Why did they retain such close connections with Dumbledore after graduating from Hogwarts? Dumbledore volunteered to be their secret keeper, which seems to indicate that the Potters were quite high-up and important in the fight against Voldemort's forces. So many questions . . . hoping *some* of them will be answered or clarified in Book 4! Penny From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 02:15:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:15:00 -0400 Subject: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1668 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #1667] Re: Mother's Eyes/Lily Potter Date: 6/6/00 10:15 pm (ET) "Well, I don't know about the Lily as a Slytherin theory (could be true though), but I do think you're on to something about the "green" light that Harry remembers from the night his parents were attacked. Is there any significance to the fact that green smoke billows out of Harry's vault at Gringotts? Could the color green have multiple layers of significance?? Hmm . . . ...and green is the House colour for Slytherin, of course. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 02:26:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:26:00 -0400 Subject: Grindelwald Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1669 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Grindelwald Date: 6/6/00 10:26 pm (ET) "Oh... and I can't remember if Dumbledore's age is being discussed here or somewhere else, but he defeated Grindelwald in 1945 (does anyone else really like that link between wizarding and real events?). Sorry if that's not relevant here". That's an interesting point. I guess it's no coincidence that Grindelwald is a German name and Dumbledore's first name, Albus, is related to Albion, another name for Britain. Neil From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 02:39:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 22:39:00 -0400 Subject: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1670 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Reply To: [Yahoo! #1664] Re: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Date: 6/6/00 10:39 pm (ET) "Some pointless wonderings of my own: WHY does Snape favour Draco? Maybe Lucius Malfoy got him the teaching job?" This is puzzling to me as well. I thought at first that he simply favored Slytherin because it was his house, but I don't think it can ever be that simple. I don't think Malfoy got him his job-- I don't see any compelling evidence yet that he was connected to the Dark Side, and in the first book at least, actively fought it in Quirrell. Maybe he favors Draco simply to get up Harry's nose. "Why won't Dumbledore give him the Defence against the Dark Arts post? I have no clue here, but don't think it's because he doesn't trust him." Why does he want it so badly? What is his background? "What did he know about the Chamber of Secrets? More than he was telling, that's clear if you read the book carefully." Yes, and he advised Draco to summon up the snake during the duel, remember? He KNEW somethign about the effect that would have on Harry.... Yes, yes.. a very intriguing man! I want to believe that he is capable of fallign deeply in love and being redeemed.... From estesrandy at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 03:33:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 23:33:00 -0400 Subject: We have a winner! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1671 From: estesrandy Subject: Re: We have a winner! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1660] We have a winner! Date: 6/6/00 11:33 pm (ET) What's all this? Don't we Yanks get a chance to answer the silly quiz before you Brits give out the Winner's award to another Brit. The guy must have been working on it for 8 hours before we even get our lunch break at work. You posted the victor in about 14 hours and I was asleep for at least 6 of those hours ! Sheeeesh ! Anyway I'll send you an email with my answers, but I just can't figure out that Sir Forrest Passion character. Give us a hint! Eh! From Pixzee at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 03:47:00 2000 From: Pixzee at yahoo.com (Pixzee at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 23:47:00 -0400 Subject: More songs for the CD Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1672 From: Pixzee Subject: Re: More songs for the CD Reply To: [Yahoo! #1655] Re: More songs for the CD Date: 6/6/00 11:47 pm (ET) what about "We've got magic to do" from the show Pippin??? BTW- I'm Lacey, I'm not really new, just REALLY quiet on here. From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 05:17:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 01:17:00 -0400 Subject: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1673 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Reply To: [Yahoo! #1670] Re: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Date: 6/7/00 1:17 am (ET) re: snape favoring Malfoy and Slytherin... I always thought that Snape sort of wanted to give Slytherin a "fair chance" - sort of a "everybody thinks Slytherin's evil, so I'm going to give them a break" attitude. But then, in book 1, they've won the house championship for 6 years running, so it's not like they're being picked on by the other teachers or anything. Hmmm.... not sure about this one. re: DADA position... You know, the books never really say if Snape actually wants the position. Everyone's *heard* that he wants it, but I figure that if he really did, he would have had a chance to fill it by now (with all the vacancies and all). I'm thinking that he'd rather be potions master and out of the "limelight", so to speak. I do think Snape is a fascinating character - and I would probably like him a lot more if he didn't go off the deep end at the end of book 3. I mean, sure, he's angry and resentful that the guy who tried to kill him so many years ago is free AGAIN - but get a grip! ;) Jen From davehoz at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 05:42:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 01:42:00 -0400 Subject: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1674 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Reply To: [Yahoo! #1670] Re: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Date: 6/7/00 1:42 am (ET) >Maybe he favors Draco simply to get up Harry's nose. That's what I think -- It sounds to me like one of those "My enemy's enemy is my friend" things... From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 08:45:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 04:45:00 -0400 Subject: We have a winner! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1675 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: We have a winner! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1671] Re: We have a winner! Date: 6/7/00 4:45 am (ET) "What's all this? Don't we Yanks get a chance to answer the silly quiz before you Brits give out the Winner's award to another Brit. The guy must have been working on it for 8 hours before we even get our lunch break at work. You posted the victor in about 14 hours and I was asleep for at least 6 of those hours ! Sheeeesh !" It may be an idea in future to wait for a couple of days before posting the winner and then randomly selecting between the first few in to try and negate and advantage some will have by time zone differences. I spent about half of my lunch break and a little time while eating breakfast working on them, not in that order! It was luck that I had finished re-reading the second book on Monday so it was fresh in my memory. "Anyway I'll send you an email with my answers, but I just can't figure out that Sir Forrest Passion character. Give us a hint! Eh!" This character is only mentioned once in the whole book. For the time being I am unable to spend much time thinking about setting the next quiz, have lots of revision to do, so can this responsibility go to someone else. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 12:05:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:05:00 -0400 Subject: We have a winner! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1676 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: We have a winner! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1671] Re: We have a winner! Date: 6/7/00 8:05 am (ET) Doh! Sorry everyone - I completely forgot about the time difference. To be honest, I wasn't expecting anyone to get all the answers quite *that* quickly, so Simon threw me a bit. Hmmm. Maybe it was silly, but I've seen sillier things in the name of fandom! Actually I only did it because Penny asked me to think of an activity... Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 12:17:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 08:17:00 -0400 Subject: We have a winner! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1677 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: We have a winner! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1675] Re: We have a winner! Date: 6/7/00 8:17 am (ET) Simon's suggestion sounds sensible, and since he's resigned responsibility for setting the next round of silliness, I guess the first runner-up should come up with the next quiz. Don't all rush at once! Neil PS: Anglo-American relations restored, I hope... PPS: 'Sir Forrest Passion' - part of the answer is a title. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 13:35:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 09:35:00 -0400 Subject: Hi, everyone! Miss me? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1678 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Hi, everyone! Miss me? Date: 6/7/00 9:35 am (ET) Melanie's sorting hat put me into Gryffindor! Cool! From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 13:40:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 09:40:00 -0400 Subject: Hi, everyone! Miss me? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1679 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: Hi, everyone! Miss me? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1678] Hi, everyone! Miss me? Date: 6/7/00 9:40 am (ET) Oh, were you gone? From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 14:42:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 10:42:00 -0400 Subject: Hi, everyone! Miss me? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1680 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: Hi, everyone! Miss me? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1678] Hi, everyone! Miss me? Date: 6/7/00 10:42 am (ET) Ohhh, VOICELADY, it's YOU. I thought it was that Beckhorn guy. Yes, of course I missed you and noticed you were gone, because you are special and wonderful and not a big stinkyhead in any way whatsoever that I know of. Glad we cleared that up! From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 14:47:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 10:47:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1681 From: yrbecca_call Subject: I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 10:47 am (ET) Ive been lurkin here for a bit now, but got some info I am just busting to blurt out..... The title of the next book is not Doom Spell Tournament.... I can't say what it is exactly ( Due to job security)but according to the way you refer to the other books it will be Harry Potter and the CoF. :-) From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 14:55:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 10:55:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1682 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1681] I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 10:55 am (ET) Chariots of Fire? Castle of Frankenstein? Closet of Frisbees? Case of Frankfurters? Coat of Feathers? Cast of "Friends?" From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 14:55:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 10:55:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1683 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1681] I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 10:55 am (ET) So, now we have to guess...? I suppose 'Chariots of Fire' is out of the running :), but I think the last word might be Flame(s). I'm guessing though. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 14:57:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 10:57:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1684 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1682] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 10:57 am (ET) Cast of "Friends"... LOL - I love it! Neil From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 14:58:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 10:58:00 -0400 Subject: I never could keep a secret Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1685 From: yrbecca_call Subject: I never could keep a secret Date: 6/7/00 10:58 am (ET) Email me, and I will tell you, but please do not post it. A job could seriously be on the line. From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 14:59:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 10:59:00 -0400 Subject: Close Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1686 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Close Date: 6/7/00 10:59 am (ET) Chariots of Fire is close..... :-) From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 15:00:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:00:00 -0400 Subject: I never could keep a secret Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1687 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: I never could keep a secret Reply To: [Yahoo! #1685] I never could keep a secret Date: 6/7/00 11:00 am (ET) What's your e-mail address? Neil From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 15:02:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:02:00 -0400 Subject: I never could keep a secret Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1688 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Re: I never could keep a secret Reply To: [Yahoo! #1687] Re: I never could keep a secret Date: 6/7/00 11:02 am (ET) I can't post it it has my name. Are you online now? From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 15:04:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:04:00 -0400 Subject: I never could keep a secret Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1689 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: I never could keep a secret Reply To: [Yahoo! #1688] Re: I never could keep a secret Date: 6/7/00 11:04 am (ET) Yes... Or you could e-mail me at neil.ward at cba-international.com er, Cauldron...Casket From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 15:04:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:04:00 -0400 Subject: I never could keep a secret Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1690 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: I never could keep a secret Reply To: [Yahoo! #1685] I never could keep a secret Date: 6/7/00 11:04 am (ET) Lemme get this straight - you don't know any of us, and someone could lose their job if this info gets out, but you're willing to trust all of us to keep this very sought-after under our sorting hats? Hmmmm. Something smells fishy to the ol' Darwinner. At any rate, it's more fun to not know. :^) P.S. CAULDRON of fire???? From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 15:07:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:07:00 -0400 Subject: I never could keep a secret Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1691 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: I never could keep a secret Reply To: [Yahoo! #1690] Re: I never could keep a secret Date: 6/7/00 11:07 am (ET) Great minds think alike... I would never reveal the truth - even as an anagram (!) Neil From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 15:08:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:08:00 -0400 Subject: I never could keep a secret Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1692 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Re: I never could keep a secret Reply To: [Yahoo! #1691] Re: I never could keep a secret Date: 6/7/00 11:08 am (ET) Thanks Niel!!!! From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 15:09:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 11:09:00 -0400 Subject: That is ....Neil..... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1693 From: yrbecca_call Subject: That is ....Neil..... Date: 6/7/00 11:09 am (ET) Sorry about the spelling From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 16:16:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 12:16:00 -0400 Subject: I never could keep a secret Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1694 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: I never could keep a secret Reply To: [Yahoo! #1690] Re: I never could keep a secret Date: 6/7/00 12:16 pm (ET) You're willing to trust a group of strangers with this info, for which you could lose your job? I agree with Darwin; I think someone's pulling our leg. From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 16:43:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 12:43:00 -0400 Subject: I never could keep a secret Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1695 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Re: I never could keep a secret Reply To: [Yahoo! #1694] Re: I never could keep a secret Date: 6/7/00 12:43 pm (ET) As long as it is anonomous, I think Im ok. Hey you will know in a month won't you? From christineoswell at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 18:06:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 14:06:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1696 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1682] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 2:06 pm (ET) how about "Champions of Fire"? From davehoz at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 18:08:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 14:08:00 -0400 Subject: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1697 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Reply To: [Yahoo! #1664] Re: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Date: 6/7/00 2:08 pm (ET) >Why did Sirius try to *kill*him? There must be >some back story there. I think he just didn't think about that possibility. I get the feeling that Sirius was a rather reckless and lawless boy in his early days. I don't know how many Louisa May Alcott fans are on this list, but Sirius reminds me strongly of Dan in _Little Men_/_Jo's Boys_. He too has a short, sometimes violent temper, has a revulsion for any sort of restraint, and sometimes acts on impulse without thinking. He practically burns down the whole school, which is as serious as almost killing a student. (I don't think Sirius meant to kill Snape any more than Dan meant to set fire to Plumfield... They just didn't think of consequences.) The parallels between Sirius and Dan go even further. They both are initially handsome and strong and much admired. Then they both get thrown in prison for a crime they didn't commit and emerge as mere shadows of their former selves: "gaunt" and hidden behind "starved masks". Dan is eventually sent away to the wilderness and ends up dead; that's why I have anxiety that Sirius will meet the same (or worse) fate. From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 18:14:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 14:14:00 -0400 Subject: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1698 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Reply To: [Yahoo! #1697] Re: Slytherin, and Snape quesions Date: 6/7/00 2:14 pm (ET) Ah, I love the comparison between Dan and Sirius. The sequels to _Little Women_ are a couple of my favorite books - and Dan ends up to be one of my favorite characters. I didn't notice the resemblance before now, though. It makes me wonder - was Sirius in love with anyone (like Dan was in love with Bess) that he could never have - like Lily, perhaps? Anyway, I'm truly hoping that Sirius doesn't meet the same end as Dan - I never fail to be newly disappointed that he dies at the end of that book. :( Jen From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 18:24:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 14:24:00 -0400 Subject: I never could keep a secret Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1699 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: I never could keep a secret Reply To: [Yahoo! #1695] Re: I never could keep a secret Date: 6/7/00 2:24 pm (ET) Hey, if it's the truth, I will be the first to concede it. And you've got more guts than I! <LOL> Although, I don't really want to know. I'm rather enjoying the anticipation. What is it that Willy Wonka says: "The anticipation is killing me! I hope it lasts!" voicelady From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 18:24:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 14:24:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1700 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1696] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 2:24 pm (ET) Hmm... I don't know quite how to start this off - I see in the logical part of my brain that it's very unlikely that someone who has a job at stake would risk it to spill a secret to a bunch of (worthy!) people he/she doesn't know. However, I'm having a great time thinking about what CoF could stand for (Cauldron of Fire is my favorite suggestion so far). Also, if I were in this person's place, I'm afraid I would probably be doing the same thing. I hate secrets (my husband can't understand that I always want to peek at my presents under the wrapping paper - he always thinks I'm just kidding and that I really DO like surprises), and though I am ABLE to keep them when it's necessary, I really don't like doing it. If I were sitting on the actual title of the 4th book, I don't think I could even take place in any of the conversation on this board. I'd be itching to tell every single one of you what it really was - simply because I know that you'd really enjoy hearing it. So! Maybe it IS true. Maybe this person really does know the real title and is just ACHING to tell someone (like I would be), and is just a little overly trusting of us adults. ;) Anyway - I'm going to give this person the benefit of the doubt - but I'm not going to ask her what the title is, simply because I like guessing what the initials are better. ;) Jen (again - I just can't keep away from this board while I'm at work! Darnit!) From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 18:35:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 14:35:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1701 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1700] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 2:35 pm (ET) I'm thinkin', the lovely and talented Ms. Rowling has gone to considerable effort to *keep this a secret*, so kindamaybe we should respect her wishes. . . . Anyway, I bet four nickels that this is a big ol' hoax!!!!!!! Hee hee. Who all's meeting me in my fair city when they do that thingie in Times Square anyway? From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 18:41:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 14:41:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1702 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1701] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 2:41 pm (ET) Consider me there! Where do you want to meet? From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 18:46:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 14:46:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1703 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1702] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 2:46 pm (ET) Your house? How 'bout we meet at The Lion King or something? Something that's in the area and easy to find. From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 18:52:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 14:52:00 -0400 Subject: I never could keep a secret Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1705 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: I never could keep a secret Reply To: [Yahoo! #1685] I never could keep a secret Date: 6/7/00 2:52 pm (ET) What's your email addy???? *pouncing on you* I WANNA KNOW!!! --Suzanne From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 18:59:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 14:59:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1706 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1700] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 2:59 pm (ET) I was told by someone at Scholastic that the manuscript is under lock and key, and that when it comes out only about five people will have read it. Of course, knowing how things are around the office cooler, I wouldn't be too surprised if little things leaked out. Cauldron of Fire is may favorite so far.... How about Cirlce of Fire? My email is rainy_lilac at hotmail.com TELL ME!!!!! From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 19:00:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 15:00:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1707 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1701] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 3:00 pm (ET) We are having a bash her in Boston at midnight, June 7th, at Wordsworth Books in Harvard Square. I hope I can get a cloak by then! From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 19:02:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 15:02:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1708 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1707] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 3:02 pm (ET) If you want a decent cloak I would try renstore.com From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 19:05:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 15:05:00 -0400 Subject: Times Square Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1709 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Times Square Date: 6/7/00 3:05 pm (ET) What's up in Times Square? From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 19:10:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 15:10:00 -0400 Subject: Times Square Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1710 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Times Square Reply To: [Yahoo! #1709] Times Square Date: 6/7/00 3:10 pm (ET) There will be a big to-do with the lighting up of Times Square and every child in the tri-state area will be there, no doubt. That includes all of us big kids-at-heart, too! From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 19:12:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 15:12:00 -0400 Subject: Times Square Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1711 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Re: Times Square Reply To: [Yahoo! #1710] Re: Times Square Date: 6/7/00 3:12 pm (ET) Wow all this for the book? Or am I mixing up events? From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 19:49:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 15:49:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1712 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1706] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 3:49 pm (ET) I couldn't resist asking, so I'm willing to divulge the alleged title of Book 4 by e-mail to help protect the anonymity of the person who knows... It probably is more fun to keep guessing though. Neil neilward at dircon.co.uk From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 19:57:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 15:57:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1713 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1712] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 3:57 pm (ET) I am willing to divulge by email too... and to say what I think is so funny about the title! *snort snort* O the bible thumpers will love this one.... ((Don't worry friend: I will NOT forward your email or divulge your identity!)) From mr_beckhorn at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 20:10:00 2000 From: mr_beckhorn at yahoo.com (mr_beckhorn at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 16:10:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1714 From: mr_beckhorn Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1713] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 4:10 pm (ET) I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 20:25:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 16:25:00 -0400 Subject: Okay, so we all know now.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1715 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Okay, so we all know now.... Date: 6/7/00 4:25 pm (ET) That Harry is a Unitarian. ROFL! Chuckling, Suzanne rainy_lilac at hotmail.com From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 20:34:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 16:34:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1716 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1713] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/7/00 4:34 pm (ET) <<O the bible thumpers will love this one....>> What, is it "Harry Potter and the Crucifixtion of Flitwick"? From davehoz at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 21:14:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 17:14:00 -0400 Subject: Times Square Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1717 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Times Square Reply To: [Yahoo! #1711] Re: Times Square Date: 6/7/00 5:14 pm (ET) Parties, midnight book sales, merchandicing plans, Times Square lightings, all for the most anticipated book of the century if not the millenium. So as Fred Weasley might say to JKR: "So no pressure, Jo!" From babynick34 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 21:40:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 17:40:00 -0400 Subject: Costumes, Time Square and Other Things Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1718 From: babynick34 Subject: Costumes, Time Square and Other Things Date: 6/7/00 5:40 pm (ET) Hi all Ok... so firstly, this new name for book 4 seems interesting. 1. Back in February I was asked to hand over www.doomspell.co.uk I did so... but it still remains in my control - why? The transfer has not been processed. Hmm.. maybe, just maybe, WB/C.Little don't want the domain? 2. Many people know the title for book 4. If Scholastic are printing 3.8 million coppies - imagaine how long that takes to print! These have been stockpileing for the past few weeks, if not months. There are going to be a number of people in every book publishers print rooms who know's the title of this book. 3. Jo likes to keep her titles secret. Doomspell has been known about for a while... who leaked it? Answer: Scholastic. Genuine title - unlikly. 4. Cauldron of Fire I like... but I'm a bit stuck on this Bible connection. Now Costumes Anyone know where you can get costumes made? And if so, at what cost? I think I will be Dumbledore - I have the blue eyes, but not the beard. I wonder how much makeup will be needed to make me look old? Time Sqaure... So I think I missed something here, when is it happening? Who is organising it? Who is the press officer? Etc. Please post info - pity I don't think I will be able to get a flight out there... but who knows, miricles happen! Other things. So this has probably been asked before, but I don't know the answer - so perhaps you can help. What does the following say/mean in english Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus Thanks Nick. PS. Been working on Perl scripts tonight... oh what fun, but at least I managed to get sendmail on Rapidsite's server to work eventually. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 22:04:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 18:04:00 -0400 Subject: Costumes, Time Square and Other Thin Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1719 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Costumes, Time Square and Other Thin Reply To: [Yahoo! #1718] Costumes, Time Square and Other Things Date: 6/7/00 6:04 pm (ET) Ok... so I found the answer on Newsweek - but anyone here who did Latin - can you confirm it? (I got 2% in my Latin exam when I was 12, so I have no idea!). Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus "Never Tickle a Sleeping Dragon" Nick. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 22:20:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 18:20:00 -0400 Subject: 8th July Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1720 From: babynick34 Subject: 8th July Date: 6/7/00 6:20 pm (ET) Some interesting things about the 8th July 1. It's after the 4th July (hey, I'm good... I can add!) Seriously... 4th July is a holiday in the US, so not a good day for a book release. 2. Harry Potter PoA was released 8th July 1999. 3. Bloomsbury Publishing (http://www.bloomsbury.com) are said to have called the 8th July: "Harry Potter Day" 4. Mathematicians born on this day: 1760 : Kramp 1777 : Hecht 1904 : Henri Cartan Mathematicians who died on this day: 1390 : Albert 1476 : Regiomontanus 1695 : Huygens 1971 : Reidemeister So nothing overly exciting about the 8th July... but it does seem to be the date which has stuck as being "Harry Potter Day". Nick. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 22:24:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 18:24:00 -0400 Subject: 0870 16 HOGWARTS Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1721 From: babynick34 Subject: 0870 16 HOGWARTS Date: 6/7/00 6:24 pm (ET) Ok... Bloomsbury are having some fun me thinks. They have published the following phone number for fans to call: 0870 16 HOGWARTS (Thats: 0870 16 464 92 787) for those not used to letters yet. NOTE: THIS IS A UK NUMBER. I wonder what happens if you call it... maybe I will try and see. Nick. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 22:31:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 18:31:00 -0400 Subject: 0870 16 HOGWARTS Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1722 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: 0870 16 HOGWARTS Reply To: [Yahoo! #1721] 0870 16 HOGWARTS Date: 6/7/00 6:31 pm (ET) Ok... so it's 11.24pm here in the UK, and they are answering this phone number. However, it seemed to be answered by an american lady... hmm. When asked about the new name for book 4, she was unable to comment. Could not say a thing... not even that it had changed. So... I wonder why this phone number exists. Nick. From austen_fanatic at yahoo.com Wed Jun 7 22:48:00 2000 From: austen_fanatic at yahoo.com (austen_fanatic at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 18:48:00 -0400 Subject: Wanted: Title of bk 4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1723 From: austen_fanatic Subject: Wanted: Title of bk 4 Date: 6/7/00 6:48 pm (ET) My e-mail is: austen_fantic at yahoo.com Would one of you kindly arrest my curiosity, by telling me the title? And while you're at it, I'd love all the juicy secrets, too, if there are any. LOL --Skye From estesrandy at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 00:10:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 20:10:00 -0400 Subject: Wanted: Title of bk 4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1724 From: estesrandy Subject: Re: Wanted: Title of bk 4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1723] Wanted: Title of bk 4 Date: 6/7/00 8:10 pm (ET) Okay Okay I just can't keep it a secret any longer.... The new book title reflects the fact that the entire book takes place at the Dursley's house. It's called "Harry Potter and the Collection of Fatheads!" From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 00:49:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 20:49:00 -0400 Subject: Grindelwald Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1725 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Grindelwald Reply To: [Yahoo! #1669] Grindelwald Date: 6/7/00 8:49 pm (ET) Hi: <That's an interesting point. I guess it's no coincidence that Grindelwald is a German name and Dumbledore's first name, Albus, is related to Albion, another name for Britain.> The Anglophile, World War II buff and historian in me thinks this is a very cool observation. The American in me, however, can't help pointing out that Albion (Albus) couldn't have defeated Germany (Grindelwald) in 1945 without the help of the Yanks. <vbg> Penny From estesrandy at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 02:52:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 22:52:00 -0400 Subject: Grindelwald Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1726 From: estesrandy Subject: Re: Grindelwald Reply To: [Yahoo! #1725] Re: Grindelwald Date: 6/7/00 10:52 pm (ET) So, in the German versions of Harry Potter, is Grindelwald a good guy or a bad guy? Another question: If the people in the pictures can move around like the Fat Lady and Sir Cadogan, what happens if someone moves their original frame while they are wandering around loose? This also leads to a lot of moral questions about the Louvre. Are some of those religious paintings being left by the subjects to go party with the naked women in the next room? If there are ghosts wandering around the hallways, do they know things about who is sneaking around at night? If so, as the teenagers mature, will they get any privacy for smootching with Peeves looking for trouble all the time? Also, has a game of Quidditch ever been played where the golden snitch was never caught? Say for instance , Harry gets injured and Draco can't catch the damn thing to save his life ! Where do the Professors go during the summer? What do people in Diagon Alley do after closing time? Do Wizards get drunk and raid the Muggle bars after midnight causing all kinds of trouble? In summary, some of the most important questions will probably never be answered in the books !! From pt4ever at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 02:59:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 22:59:00 -0400 Subject: Times Square Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1727 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Times Square Reply To: [Yahoo! #1717] Re: Times Square Date: 6/7/00 10:59 pm (ET) *sigh* Any multi-millionaires out there who can send me a plane ticket to NYC so I can celebrate with y'all? :) Let's see...on July 8th I will be back home in North Dakota putting up with my bratty little sister. Oh, joy. On the other hand, I'll be with my mom, who's a librarian and the one who introduced me to Harry Potter (by handing me a paperback copy of Sorcerer's Stone before a 45 minute car trip and saying, "Here. Do you want to try Harry Potter?" By the time we got home, I was hooked. I couldn't even put the book down while walking into the house. I nearly stepped on my cat!). Oh, BTW -- maybe something with "cave" for the book 4 title? Cave of Fire? Cave of Future? I'd rather wait 'til July 8 to find out, though. -- JoAnna From estesrandy at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 03:06:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 07 Jun 2000 23:06:00 -0400 Subject: Fly like an Eagle Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1728 From: estesrandy Subject: Fly like an Eagle Date: 6/7/00 11:06 pm (ET) By the way, the sorting hat has officially named me a Ravenclaw ! This agrees with one of the Myers-Briggs assessments. I guess I'm Randy Ravenclaw! And as my first official act in the House, I declare the official song of Ravenclaw to be Steve Miller's "Fly like an Eagle"! I guess it's my Ravenclaw nature to ask alot of questions. Hence the previous posting. By the way if Harry and Hermione leave Madam Pomfreys room at 11:00pm travelling at 10 miles an hour using the talisman, and they pass a werewolf travelling north northeast at 7 miles an hour and dragging something behind him, How many pages does it take for Harry to retrace his steps and save the day? Couldn't Harry and Hermione keep using the time travel talisman and relive the ending into perpetuity? Why not, my wife plans to reread these novels so many times she could run into them one of these days by accident! From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 06:07:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 02:07:00 -0400 Subject: Grindelwald Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1729 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Grindelwald Reply To: [Yahoo! #1725] Re: Grindelwald Date: 6/8/00 2:07 am (ET) The Anglophile, World War II buff and historian in me thinks this is a very cool observation. The American in me, however, can't help pointing out that Albion (Albus) couldn't have defeated Germany (Grindelwald) in 1945 without the help of the Yanks. <vbg> I should have seen that one coming! Perhaps Albus has a cousin, who lent him a 20-inch wand that did for Grindelwald, or perhaps the pair of them just drove over him in a tank. I guess we'll never know. Neil From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 06:20:00 2000 From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (daughterofthedust at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 02:20:00 -0400 Subject: Wanted: Title of bk 4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1730 From: DaughteroftheDust Subject: Re: Wanted: Title of bk 4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1724] Re: Wanted: Title of bk 4 Date: 6/8/00 2:20 am (ET) That last post gave me an idea... How about we come up with ridiculous, or plausible guesses for the title of the new Harry book, using that CoF anagram as a basis? PLEASE, don't give away the actual title. It would be fun to see how close any of us come to the actual title, when the book hits the shelves.. Here are mine: Harry Potter and... The Circle of Fire The Crickets of Fireswamp The Crisis on Fire Mountian From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 06:23:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 02:23:00 -0400 Subject: Costumes, Time Square and Other Thin Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1731 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Costumes, Time Square and Other Thin Reply To: [Yahoo! #1718] Costumes, Time Square and Other Things Date: 6/8/00 2:23 am (ET) Nick said: "Anyone know where you can get costumes made? And if so, at what cost? I think I will be Dumbledore - I have the blue eyes, but not the beard. I wonder how much makeup will be needed to make me look old?" ** Is this for fun, Nick, or is it a lifestyle decision? They tend to arrest old men with beards who pull out their wands in public... ** Myself, I was going to try for Minerva McGonagall, but I couldn't get my hair into a bun. I have the glasses though, and I am a bit catty. ** Seriously, there's a big theatrical costumiers just off Charing Cross Road - they also hire out stuff for fancy dress parties etc. It's called 'Angel and something' (a very HP-sounding name). If you want something a bit less pricey, try one of the tacky fancy dress shops, like Escapade, in Camden. They do good wigs. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 06:56:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 02:56:00 -0400 Subject: Costumes, Time Square and Other Thin Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1732 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Costumes, Time Square and Other Thin Reply To: [Yahoo! #1731] Re: Costumes, Time Square and Other Thin Date: 6/8/00 2:56 am (ET) The fancy dress shop/costumiers I mentioned: Angels & Bermans - 119, Shaftesbury Avenue, London WC2H 8AE They make costumes for films and TV programmes as well... Neil From babynick34 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 10:01:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 06:01:00 -0400 Subject: UK - HP Merchandise - XMAS Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1733 From: babynick34 Subject: UK - HP Merchandise - XMAS Date: 6/8/00 6:01 am (ET) Hi All Thanks Neil for the details on costume makers. Warner Brothers (London) called me this morning. I was cooking breakfast, so the answerphone took the call. Below is a transcript - for anyone who is interested. ---------------- Tina Louise Phips - Warner Bros. Studio Stores, London Thank you for your letter dated 4th June, regarding our Kinston Store and the information on Harry Potter. What I will do is send you a letter in the post. The reason the stores don't have the information is that there is a huge confidentiality agreement with the UK. We will be having the merchandise, but slightly later than the US. The US is due in July / August time, the actual website is run from the US - we don't have a UK website at present. We will be receiving our stock ready for this Christmas. We are aware obviously of the rights and the merchandising rights we have secured around the Harry Potter books. As of yet the stores are not allowed to release information regarding the marketing for the UK this holiday season. I will re-irritate everything in a letter to you. I hope this is satisfactory. If you have any more queries, please contact me direct on **** ******* alternatively I will send you my address on the letter. Thanks for your enquiry. (Thursday, 8th June 2000. 9.30am) ---------------- So... it appears that you lucky lot in the US can have the mugs, tshirts etc... but us here in the UK have to wait till Christmas - or so WB thinks! WB are fueling the black market with this sort of policy. Why on earth are they holding back release in the UK til christmas, when they are not doing the same in the US? Nick. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 10:07:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 06:07:00 -0400 Subject: 0870 16 HOGWARTS Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1734 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: 0870 16 HOGWARTS Reply To: [Yahoo! #1722] Re: 0870 16 HOGWARTS Date: 6/8/00 6:07 am (ET) *STOP PRESS* NEWS JUST ARRIVED FROM BLOOMSBURY PUBLISHING ----- The number goes to a call centre based in the UK. (hmm, they must have American staff!) There is a Harry Potter fan club in the UK, we can send you details if you send your address, (I'm already a member of that... it's not much to shout about) but if an international one were to be set up, it would probably be done by Warner Bros. (or maybe I will get their first!) JK Rowling will be doing some events in the UK in July, these include events at Harrods, Waterstones Picadilly and Borders Brighton. (I see a visit to London coming right up) These stores will be able to give you details. (If you know the store contact details, please post them... I'm off to track them down) There will be more events which have not yet been finalised. Our web site and the call centre will have details when they are confirmed. --------- That's all folks! From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 10:32:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 06:32:00 -0400 Subject: JK in in the UK Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1735 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: JK in in the UK Reply To: [Yahoo! #1734] Re: 0870 16 HOGWARTS Date: 6/8/00 6:32 am (ET) I've read somewhere that King's Cross Station is mocking up a Platform Nine and three-quarters for the release day of the book. Does anyone know any more about that? Waterstone's Piccadilly is fairly close to my workplace, so I rang them to find out what's happening... The good news is that Joanne Rowling is due to be there, signing books, on 12th July. The bad news is that it might be an 'invitation only' event! The guy said he's phone me back with the full details. Neil From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 12:42:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 08:42:00 -0400 Subject: Wanted: Title of bk 4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1736 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Wanted: Title of bk 4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1723] Wanted: Title of bk 4 Date: 6/8/00 8:42 am (ET) Oh, there are many juicy secrets... *smile* From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 13:50:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 09:50:00 -0400 Subject: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1737 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1736] Re: Wanted: Title of bk 4 Date: 6/8/00 9:50 am (ET) I don't know about anyone else, but (apart from the title) I'd rather not know anything about the content of book four, juicy or otherwise, until I can read it for myself. My mouth is watering, my stomach is rumbling, but the dinner is still in the oven - I think I'll wait til it's on the table before I eat it. Neil bored, thinking up stupid analogies From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 14:03:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 10:03:00 -0400 Subject: Typo? And observation Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1738 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Typo? And observation Date: 6/8/00 10:03 am (ET) Hi, In book one, Hagrid takes Harry to the apothecary's when they're shopping for his Hogwart's stuff and part of the description reads: "...bundles of feathers, strings of fangs and snarled claws hung from the ceiling." should that be "gnarled claws"? Also, in the wand shop, Ollivander says that one phoenix provided a feather for Harry's wand and only one other, which had gone into Voldemort's wand. Could this phoenix be Fawkes? Is that why Fawkes came to Harry's rescue, later? Neil From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 14:05:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 10:05:00 -0400 Subject: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1739 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1737] Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Date: 6/8/00 10:05 am (ET) "My mouth is watering, my stomach is rumbling, but the dinner is still in the oven - I think I'll wait til it's on the table before I eat it." *Peeking into the oven and seeing what is cooking... Mmmmm... all the juices running and the skin crackling with the scent of rosemary and lemon.... Not being able to resist... Reaching a fork in and pulling out a bit to taste....* Yuuuuuuummmmmm... Oh, this is going to be a good one! From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 14:08:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 10:08:00 -0400 Subject: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1740 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1739] Re: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Date: 6/8/00 10:08 am (ET) <<"My mouth is watering, my stomach is rumbling, but the dinner is still in the oven - I think I'll wait til it's on the table before I eat it." *Peeking into the oven and seeing what is cooking... Mmmmm... all the juices running and the skin crackling with the scent of rosemary and lemon.... Not being able to resist... Reaching a fork in and pulling out a bit to taste....*>> Great, now I'm hungry. And it's still 2 hours 'til lunch. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 14:13:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 10:13:00 -0400 Subject: Typo? And observation Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1741 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Typo? And observation Reply To: [Yahoo! #1738] Typo? And observation Date: 6/8/00 10:13 am (ET) <In book one, Hagrid takes Harry to the apothecary's when they're shopping for his Hogwart's stuff and part of the description reads: "...bundles of feathers, strings of fangs and snarled claws hung from the ceiling."> Snarled can mean entangled or twisted together. Simon From babynick34 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 14:25:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 10:25:00 -0400 Subject: Typo? And observation Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1742 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Typo? And observation Reply To: [Yahoo! #1741] Re: Typo? And observation Date: 6/8/00 10:25 am (ET) If it helps, Gnarl means: to twist into a knotted or distorted form. So Gnarled is possibly what Jo meant... though I can't seem to locate Snarled on the On-Line dictionary at www.infoplease.com MS-WORD says Snarled is like Jumbled, Confused, Diordered, Chaotic. Nick. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 14:58:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 10:58:00 -0400 Subject: Typo? And observation Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1743 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Typo? And observation Reply To: [Yahoo! #1742] Re: Typo? And observation Date: 6/8/00 10:58 am (ET) According to www.dictionary.com: snarl (sn'rl) n. 1. A tangled mass, as of hair or yarn. 2. A confused, complicated, or tangled situation; a predicament. gnarled (n'rld) adj. 1. Having gnarls; knotty or misshapen: gnarled branches. 2. Morose or peevish; crabbed. 3. Rugged and roughened, as from old age or work: the gnarled hands of a carpenter. -- JoAnna From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 15:06:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 11:06:00 -0400 Subject: Typo? And observation Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1744 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Typo? And observation Reply To: [Yahoo! #1743] Re: Typo? And observation Date: 6/8/00 11:06 am (ET) Okay, so it could be snarled - looks like my vocab doesn't stretch to describing claws. Am I right, though, in assuming the US version of the book says "snarled"? Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 15:12:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 11:12:00 -0400 Subject: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1745 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1739] Re: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Date: 6/8/00 11:12 am (ET) *Peeking into the oven and seeing what is cooking... Mmmmm... all the juices running and the skin crackling with the scent of rosemary and lemon.... Not being able to resist... Reaching a fork in and pulling out a bit to taste....* **Burning fingers on searing metal interior...Ouch!!!...Not being able to resist...Getting a faceful of spitting, smouldering fat...Picking at the semi-raw delights...Ending up in hospital with rampant food poisoning...Ohhhhh...!** Neil :) From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 15:17:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 11:17:00 -0400 Subject: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1746 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1745] Re: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Date: 6/8/00 11:17 am (ET) <<**Burning fingers on searing metal interior...Ouch!!!...Not being able to resist...Getting a faceful of spitting, smouldering fat...Picking at the semi-raw delights...Ending up in hospital with rampant food poisoning...Ohhhhh...!**>> Okay, now I'm NOT hungry anymore... From b_drey at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 15:32:00 2000 From: b_drey at yahoo.com (b_drey at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 11:32:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1747 From: b_drey Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1713] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/8/00 11:32 am (ET) Crisis of Faith? Barbara From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 15:42:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 11:42:00 -0400 Subject: Long message, only small mention of food Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1748 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Long message, only small mention of food Date: 6/8/00 11:42 am (ET) I'm still working my way through Chapters 5-8 of book one (second time only). I was sitting in a caf' in my lunch hour, reading the book, when this woman of my age came over to me and said: "That's my son's favourite book." "I think it's one of mine, too" I beamed. Then she sat staring at me, so I had to leave... I love chapter 6, where Harry meets Ron and Hermione, for the first time, on the train. The character of Ron is captured so well in those few pages, and it's really touching when Harry shares his sweets and cakes with Ron; he seems strong and supportive, despite being overwhelmed by strange experiences, while Ron comes across as vulnerable and animated, and protective of his new friend. Then, chapter 7, where they're sorted: the Sorting Hat's crafty song playing against that ludicrous school song. Anyway, enough rambling... I have a few questions and posers: Q: What's a Madam in witchcraft circles? Why Madams Malkin, Hooch and Pomfrey, but Mrs Weasley? Why not Professor Hooch? Q: Why witches and wizards, rather than witches and warlocks? Q: There's mention of twins called Patil. Parvati ends up in Gryffindor. Does her sister (or brother, perhaps) end up in another House, or do just vanish? Did I miss something? Comment: Scabbers originally belonged to Percy Weasley. Was it Pettigrew when he had it, or was Scabbers replaced by a look-alike animagus? (is that why he's fat in book one and skinny later on?) Should we keep an eye on Percy? Comment: The Sorting Hat only mentioned Slytherin to Harry because he was thinking "Not Slytherin". It says he's difficult to place, but maybe it's just that he has such a rich personality that he could be placed in any of the Houses. Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 15:57:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 11:57:00 -0400 Subject: Long message, only small mention of Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1749 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Long message, only small mention of Reply To: [Yahoo! #1748] Long message, only small mention of food Date: 6/8/00 11:57 am (ET) <Q: What's a Madam in witchcraft circles? Why Madams Malkin, Hooch and Pomfrey, but Mrs Weasley? Why not Professor Hooch?> A madam is a polite way of addressing a female. Professor implies an educational qualification. <Q: Why witches and wizards, rather than witches and warlocks?> Warlock has certain negative connotations (satan). <Q: There's mention of twins called Patil. Parvati ends up in Gryffindor. Does her sister (or brother, perhaps) end up in another House, or do just vanish? Did I miss something?> Seemingly vanished! <Comment: Scabbers originally belonged to Percy Weasley. Was it Pettigrew when he had it, or was Scabbers replaced by a look-alike animagus? (is that why he's fat in book one and skinny later on?) Should we keep an eye on Percy?> It suggests that Scabbers was Peter all the time. He had placed himself with a wizard family so he could find out what was going on in the wizarding world. He only started to lose weight when Sirius escaped as he guessed that he was after him. <Comment: The Sorting Hat only mentioned Slytherin to Harry because he was thinking "Not Slytherin". It says he's difficult to place, but maybe it's just that he has such a rich personality that he could be placed in any of the Houses.> Harry in Hufflepuff? Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 16:00:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:00:00 -0400 Subject: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1750 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1745] Re: Mmmmmm - juicy secrets... Date: 6/8/00 12:00 pm (ET) **Burning fingers on searing metal interior...Ouch!!!...Not being able to resist...Getting a faceful of spitting, smouldering fat...Picking at the semi-raw delights...Ending up in hospital with rampant food poisoning...Ohhhhh...!** Are you trying to put peopple off their dinners? Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 16:51:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:51:00 -0400 Subject: Long message, only small mention of Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1751 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Long message, only small mention of Reply To: [Yahoo! #1749] Re: Long message, only small mention of Date: 6/8/00 12:51 pm (ET) A madam is a polite way of addressing a female. Professor implies an educational qualification. *** I knew that much! I was thinking more of the association with magic/witchcraft. Seafront palmists and crystal ball gazers are often called Madam Something (mainly the women), which I assumed was an affectation. I just wondered if it meant something beyond that. Warlock has certain negative connotations (satan). ***Except that warlock is usually taken as the male equivalent of witch, so both have certain negative connotations. Wizard is a bit more myth'n'magic and could be regarded as unisex, perhaps. There's no such thing as a Wizardess is there (unless you count Sorceress)? Thanks for the note on Scabbers, Simon. I'd forgotten that bit of the tale. Neil From pt4ever at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 17:11:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 13:11:00 -0400 Subject: Scabbers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1752 From: pt4ever Subject: Scabbers Reply To: [Yahoo! #1751] Re: Long message, only small mention of Date: 6/8/00 1:11 pm (ET) Does anyone have any thoughts on why Scabbers attacked Goyle (or was it Crabbe?) in book 1? The incident takes place on the Hogwarts Express, after Harry and Ron's first meeting with Malfoy. Goyle tries to steal some of Harry and Ron's snack food, and Scabbers bites him. Why? Loyalty to Ron? If that's the case, it means that Peter Pettigrew does have some redeeming qualities...or maybe he made a better rat than a human. :) As for book 4...hmmm...if the bible-thumpers are gonna be riled, perhaps it's Cross of Fire, or Cross of Flame, or something to that effect? Circus of Freaks? Cat of Fury? Cape of Fear? Curse of Flitwick? Candle of Fire/Flame/Future? Castle of Fun? Okay, I'll stop now. :) -- JoAnna From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 17:56:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 13:56:00 -0400 Subject: Wizard Vs. Warlock Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1753 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Wizard Vs. Warlock Reply To: [Yahoo! #1748] Long message, only small mention of food Date: 6/8/00 1:56 pm (ET) I seem to remember somewhere in the books, someone makes mention of warlocks. Whatever. JK probably didn't think about this, and it is probably immaterial to the HP books, but I think it is worth mentioning that the history of the words "wizard" and "warlock" are profoundly different-- "warlock" is distinctly derogatory, and comes from a Scottish word that means "oathbreaker". It was devised during the time of the witch trials in Scotland, and was fully intended to be degrading and insulting. "Wizard" has no such history or connotation. Among contemporary Wiccans, both men and women are referred to as "witch", "wizard" being considered archaic. "Warlock" is never, ever used because it is an insult. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 18:06:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 14:06:00 -0400 Subject: Wizard Vs. Warlock Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1754 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock Reply To: [Yahoo! #1753] Wizard Vs. Warlock Date: 6/8/00 2:06 pm (ET) Thanks very much for the comments on wizards vs warlocks. I always wondered why some men say they are witches... Dumbledore has a list of titles after his name on the Chocolate Frog card - one of them is 'Chief Warlock' or somesuch. That's the only time it's mentioned I think. Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 18:52:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 14:52:00 -0400 Subject: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1755 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Reply To: [Yahoo! #1754] Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock Date: 6/8/00 2:52 pm (ET) "Dumbledore has a list of titles after his name on the Chocolate Frog card - one of them is 'Chief Warlock' or somesuch. That's the only time it's mentioned I think." Headmaster: Albus Dumbledore (Order of Merlin, First Class, Grand Sorc., Chf Warlock, Supreme Mugwump, International Confed. of Wizards) On the letter from Hogwarts telling Harry that he has a place there. Mugwump - Jocular term for a great man. What Hagrid calls him all the time! Simon From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 18:58:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 14:58:00 -0400 Subject: Wizard Vs. Warlock Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1756 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock Reply To: [Yahoo! #1754] Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock Date: 6/8/00 2:58 pm (ET) You're right - although it's part of the title given to him in the Hogwarts letter - he is the "Chf. Warlock" (among other things). Very interesting. By the way - about those eating metaphors... When rainy_lilac mentioned taking a bite of the *whatever* in the oven (before it was done, I might add), I got the distinct picture of the movie _A Christmas Story_ where the dad is poking at the Christmas turkey on the kitchen table and the mom shouts from downstairs "Don't you touch that turkey mister! It's got an hour to cook! You'll get WORMS!" hahahahahahaha.... and then when I read the followup with the food poisoning... haha. Kay, sorry. Just had to get that out of my system. Jen Ps. Cross of Fire sounds great! Sounds like the bible thumpers would have a field day with that one. So would the KKK, though. ;) What about this one (my favorite so far): Harry Potter and the Cantankerous Old Fart. ;) Jen From nabsie at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 19:04:00 2000 From: nabsie at yahoo.com (nabsie at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 15:04:00 -0400 Subject: Scabbers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1757 From: nabsie Subject: Scabbers Date: 6/8/00 3:04 pm (ET) Hi, The recent posts about Scabbers have brought me out of lurkdom <waving to Penny!>. In Cos, Harry gets notification that as a first year, he can bring "an owl OR a cat OR a toad" to Hogwarts. Unless this is just specific to Harry, then why is Ron allowed to bring a rat in the first place? Also, Ron is said to have "Charlie's old wand." What could be the explanation for Charlie needing a *new* wand if the old one was just fine? CoF Hmmm... Case of Floopowder ? Castration of Firenze ? sorry, I'd better go now <G>. Nancy in MT From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 19:07:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 15:07:00 -0400 Subject: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1758 From: sarvalsha Subject: Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Reply To: [Yahoo! #1755] Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Date: 6/8/00 3:07 pm (ET) I've always wondered about the difference as well. Especially as warlocks are referred to in official capacities a couple of times. Book 1: the Warlocks Convention of 1709 banned dragon breeding. Book 2: the International Confederation of Warlocks Statute of Secrecy is cited on the warning letter from the Ministry to Harry. I have also re-read (well, actually re-listened to) book 1 to get ready for 4. I am bothered every time I read/hear the part about Harry and Hermione getting caught coming down from the Astronomy tower. I understand Professor McGonagall's reaction and the other Gryffindors (well except for Fred and George who have apparently lost lots of points themselves). I don't understand Harry's, Hermione's, and especially Hagrid's. Harry goes on about how ashamed he is and how he and Hermione deserve their punishment. You'd think they had just been up there on a lark or something. But they were protecting Hagrid. Not something they should be ashamed about. And Hagrid never mentions feeling guilty about getting them in trouble. Always strikes me as weird. Margaret From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 19:16:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 15:16:00 -0400 Subject: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1759 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Reply To: [Yahoo! #1758] Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Date: 6/8/00 3:16 pm (ET) <I am bothered every time I read/hear the part about Harry and Hermione getting caught coming down from the Astronomy tower. I understand Professor McGonagall's reaction and the other Gryffindors (well except for Fred and George who have apparently lost lots of points themselves). I don't understand Harry's, Hermione's, and especially Hagrid's. Harry goes on about how ashamed he is and how he and Hermione deserve their punishment. You'd think they had just been up there on a lark or something. But they were protecting Hagrid. Not something they should be ashamed about. And Hagrid never mentions feeling guilty about getting them in trouble. Always strikes me as weird.> It could be they are ashamed that they forgot the invisibility cloak and so know that they should never have been caught. Also they know they cannot get out of it by telling the truth as that would cause even more trouble. Hagrid is still feeling upset that Norbert had to go in the first place. Simon From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 19:20:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 15:20:00 -0400 Subject: Audio books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1760 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Audio books Date: 6/8/00 3:20 pm (ET) How are the audio books by the way? Who reads them? One actor or many? Is it abridged or full text? From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 19:25:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 15:25:00 -0400 Subject: Audio books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1761 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Audio books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1760] Audio books Date: 6/8/00 3:25 pm (ET) One actor, Jim Dale, reads them and they are unabridged. He's wonderful. I've got the full set and I enjoy listening to them very much. From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 19:57:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 15:57:00 -0400 Subject: Audio books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1762 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Re: Audio books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1761] Re: Audio books Date: 6/8/00 3:57 pm (ET) I enjoy listening to them also. When Ron gets the Howler in CoS, I turn it to maximum volume for effect. When I read the books (the paper ones, that is), I always somehow picture Mrs Weasley's voice *shouting* above everything, though I know it's her regular (or slightly raised) voice with the volume turned up. Does that make any sense? From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 20:44:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 16:44:00 -0400 Subject: Audio books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1763 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Audio books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1762] Re: Audio books Date: 6/8/00 4:44 pm (ET) I was looking at the audio tapes in a bookshop the other day. I guess you could say I was *coveting* them - you know, picking them up and reading all the notes, putting them back, picking them up again, running my finger along the shelf, etc. I know I'll buy them eventually (or get arrested for loitering), but I'm enjoying the anticipation. The person who gave me the first book as a present first came across it himself as an audio tape and recommends this medium. The British versions are read by actor/comedian Stephen Fry, who has a great 'bumbly' voice (perfect for Dumbledore, in particular). The tapes last about 9 hours per book and cost about four times as much as the papery equivalents. Final thing on this point: Wouldn't it be great if the books were done as radio plays, with different actors playing the parts? Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 20:57:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 16:57:00 -0400 Subject: The damned quiz results! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1764 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: The damned quiz results! Date: 6/8/00 4:57 pm (ET) At the risk of highlighting my administrative cockup on the last quiz, I'll post the results now and hide in the corner. Simon got them all right, but ducked out of setting the next quiz. Randy got 95% right, so I'll had the baton to him. ***RECESS FOR MACBETH***CHAMBER OF SECRETS 8 PEOPLE 1. Cardinal Helen Sykes - Nearly Headless Nick 2 .Sir Forrest Passion - Professor Sinistra 3. Craig Flush - Argus Filch 4. Marco A Floyd - Draco Malfoy 5. Lucifer Segundo- Cornelius Fudge 6. Evelyn Cicero - Colin Creevey 7. Antony Glimmer - Monaning Myrtle 8. Carmen Millenia - Ernie MacMillan 8 THINGS 1. Fleshy inheritor (an unpopular title) - Heir of Slytherin 2. Athiest throng (decisions and divisions) - The Sorting Hat 3. Papery - hold it... (a seer) - Daily Prophet 4. Boy, illicit via 'skin' (covers a multitude of sins) - Invisibility Cloak 5. Cuboid shirt: QED (four-sided - each has a different set) - Quidditch Robes 6. Owl wing with phloem (a variety of beater) - The Whomping Willow 7. Powerful, balky Merlin (an alternative wand) - flowery pink umbrella 8. Sign on tracks - 'tis so! (where training begins) - King's Cross Station Neil/flying_ford_anglia (that's not an anagram) From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 21:00:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 17:00:00 -0400 Subject: The damned quiz results! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1765 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: The damned quiz results! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1764] The damned quiz results! Date: 6/8/00 5:00 pm (ET) ..hand the baton.. I was excited. From davehoz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 22:32:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 18:32:00 -0400 Subject: Grindelwald Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1766 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Grindelwald Reply To: [Yahoo! #1726] Re: Grindelwald Date: 6/8/00 6:32 pm (ET) >If the people in the pictures can move around >like the Fat Lady and Sir Cadogan, what happens >if someone moves their original frame while they >are wandering around loose? This also leads to a >lot of moral questions about the Louvre. Are some >of those religious paintings being left by the >subjects to go party with the naked women in the >next room? I wouldn't be suprised... They just have to do it at night when Jesse Helms isn't there. >If there are ghosts wandering around the allways, >do they know things about who is sneaking around >at night? If so, as the teenagers mature, will >they get any privacy for smootching with >Peeves looking for trouble all the time? I'd say that Filch is a bigger threat to a teenage Wizard's hormones than Peeves. >Also, has a game of Quidditch ever been played >where the golden snitch was never caught? Say for >instance , Harry gets injured and Draco can't >catch the damn thing to save his life ! Maybe Quidditch has an equivalent to the "Fifty Move Rule" in chess -- If 50 moves are made without a capture or pawn move the game is automatically a draw. So maybe after a certain about of time without a capture of the snitch the game is automatically drawn. >Where do the Professors go during the summer? Rio? Bermuda? The Isle of Man? >Do Wizards get drunk and raid the Muggle bars >after midnight causing all kinds of trouble? That would explain all those weird sounds I hear at night. From davehoz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 22:38:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 18:38:00 -0400 Subject: Movie casting based on the Audio books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1767 From: davehoz Subject: Movie casting based on the Audio books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1763] Re: Audio books Date: 6/8/00 6:38 pm (ET) >The British versions are read by actor/comedian >Stephen Fry, who has a great 'bumbly' voice >(perfect for Dumbledore, in particular). How about Stephen Fry as Dumbledore and Jim Dale as Hagrid! >Final thing on this point: Wouldn't it be great >if the books were done as radio plays, with >different actors playing the parts? Yes! I'd actually prefer this to a movie... (I don't want my personal images of the characters disrupted!) From davehoz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 22:39:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 18:39:00 -0400 Subject: Audio books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1768 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Audio books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1761] Re: Audio books Date: 6/8/00 6:39 pm (ET) I love Jim Dale's Hagrid! I always laugh during the "Norbert" episode. From davehoz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 22:59:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 18:59:00 -0400 Subject: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1769 From: davehoz Subject: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Reply To: [Yahoo! #1728] Fly like an Eagle Date: 6/8/00 6:59 pm (ET) >By the way, the sorting hat has officially named >me a Ravenclaw ! It sorted me into Ravenclaw too! I was happy to subject myself to a "scientific" sorting! I hope I'm not the only guy whose favorite literary figure (outside Hogwarts) is Jo March. >I declare the official song of Ravenclaw to be >Steve Miller's "Fly like an Eagle"! My vote is for ABBA's "Eagle". >I guess it's my Ravenclaw nature to ask alot of >questions. And in my Ravenclaw nature to try to answer them... :) > ...if Harry and Hermione leave Madam Pomfreys room at >11:00pm travelling at 10 miles an hour using the >talisman, and they pass a werewolf travelling >north northeast at 7 miles an hour and dragging >something behind him, How many pages does it take for Harry to retrace >his steps and save the day? Couldn't Harry and Hermione keep using the >time travel talisman and relive the ending into perpetuity? No, because then they'd see themselves. See, I think the thing is is that they can change time so long as they have not observed the outcome, because before they do, the outcome exists in a state of "Quantum Ambiguity" where it can go one way or the other. That's why Hermione can't go back and attend the Charms class she misssed, because the minute Harry and Ron awoke her, Harry and Ron's ambiguous state in Hermione's consciousness was resolved, and could not be altered. Likewise, the reason they can save Buckbeak is because they didn't *see* him get beheaded -- They only heard an ax whack that could or could not have been the beheading. Buckbeak was in an quantum-ambiguous state until Harry and Hermione resolved the ambiguity by saving him. And when Harry sees himself creating the Patronous, he wasn't really there across the lake, he was only potentially there. Harry himself existed in an ambiguous state until voluntarily saved his own life. Got that? :) From babynick34 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 8 23:07:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 19:07:00 -0400 Subject: Audio books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1770 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Audio books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1768] Re: Audio books Date: 6/8/00 7:07 pm (ET) Ok... to anyone anywhere... if you are planning on getting the audio version... get the Learning Library ones (that is the US edition, read by Jim Dale). I have the UK version of Philosopher's Stone, and the US version of Chamber of Secrets - and COS is far the better version - Jim puts more life in it than Stephen does, though I did think Stephen was good, until I heard Dale. I also prefer the CD versions. My tape version is not lasting well - my car tape player almost mangled one of the tapes yesterday. The CD's are better - don't suffer quite as much damage - and weigh less (imporant if shipping transatlantic!). Radio Plays - now that sounds like a great idea. Pity Warner Bros would never allow it to happen - I'm sure they would find something which would stop it. Nick. From estesrandy at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 01:51:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 21:51:00 -0400 Subject: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1771 From: estesrandy Subject: Re: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Reply To: [Yahoo! #1769] Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Date: 6/8/00 9:51 pm (ET) So, if I get this straight. Time can be changed only if the outcome is uncertain. Sort of like playing a record (for those of you who remember what that is) and the songs are playing and you can move the needle until it gets to the end and the automatic shutoff picks up the needle for the last time and shuts off the record and resolves the ending. Or maybe like hitting pause and rewind/replay on a videotape until the end of the spool is reached and autorewind kicks in. Is this related to the Heizenberg Uncertainty Principle where you can not measure both the momentum and position of an electron with unlimited accuracy at the same time? If you accurately measure the position, you can't measure the momentum accurately and vice versa. So if you resolve the actions of the characters, you can't travel to the same place and change the actions. Resolution of the actions would imply that you know their position in time and the events that have occurred during that time (ie. momentum), you do not have any uncertainty. If you don't know the resolution of the characters actions, you can change the outcome via time travel. I know this is a big stretch, but it does make me sound pompous anyway. Perhaps I can get a job at Hogwarts. Afterall, Professor Trelawney has them baffled and she has a job. Oh well, enough of that. I just want my portrait painted and hung up in the Louvre. So many opportunities and so much time ! Ha ! From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 02:51:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 22:51:00 -0400 Subject: Fly like an Eagle Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1772 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Fly like an Eagle Reply To: [Yahoo! #1728] Fly like an Eagle Date: 6/8/00 10:51 pm (ET) Hi: Well, it appears that I'm about 50 posts behind. Good grief -- how did that happen? Anyway . . . <Couldn't Harry and Hermione keep using the time travel talisman and relive the ending into perpetuity? Why not, my wife plans to reread these novels so many times she could run into them one of these days by accident!> ROFL!! I might meet your wife and Harry & Hermione myself one of these days. Yes, I've seen the later posts on the time travel business. I just had to respond to this since I too am re-reading these books so many times. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 02:58:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 22:58:00 -0400 Subject: Typo? And observation Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1773 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Typo? And observation Reply To: [Yahoo! #1738] Typo? And observation Date: 6/8/00 10:58 pm (ET) Hi: <Also, in the wand shop, Ollivander says that one phoenix provided a feather for Harry's wand and only one other, which had gone into Voldemort's wand. Could this phoenix be Fawkes? Is that why Fawkes came to Harry's rescue, later?> Do phoenixes die after giving up their tail feathers? If Fawkes was the one who gave 2 feathers for these 2 wands, then why hasn't he given any more? He's clearly got plenty -- enough for Harry et al to hang on to when they flew out of the Chamber of Secrets. I thought Fawkes came to his rescue because Harry displayed loyalty to Fawkes' master, Dumbledore. Fawkes arrived right after Harry retorted that Dumbledore wasn't so gone as Riddle might think. As I was listening to the audio versions later, I realized that Dumbledore told Harry that "phoenixes make highly faithful pets, can carry immensely heavy loads and their tears have healing powers." What I want to know about Fawkes is how did he get *into* the Chamber of Secrets without Ron seeing him? Ron acted as though he'd not seen Fawkes before as they were leaving. And, Ron might not have even cleared away enough rock for Fawkes to go that route at the time that he came to Harry's aid. So, is there another entrance to the Chamber of Secrets? Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 03:00:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 23:00:00 -0400 Subject: I could just scream! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1774 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: I could just scream! Reply To: [Yahoo! #1747] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/8/00 11:00 pm (ET) <Crisis of Faith?> I like that guess Barbara -- fits in with the whole "Bible thumpers up in arms" business. Penny From cj_bsm at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 03:04:00 2000 From: cj_bsm at yahoo.com (cj_bsm at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 23:04:00 -0400 Subject: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1775 From: cj_bsm Subject: Re: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Reply To: [Yahoo! #1771] Re: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Date: 6/8/00 11:04 pm (ET) >Oh well, enough of that. I just want my portrait >painted and hung up in the Louvre. So many >opportunities and so much time ! Ha ! Watch it, I've heard your wife reads these posts From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 03:05:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 23:05:00 -0400 Subject: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1776 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Reply To: [Yahoo! #1758] Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Date: 6/8/00 11:05 pm (ET) <But they were protecting Hagrid. Not something they should be ashamed about. And Hagrid never mentions feeling guilty about getting them in trouble. Always strikes me as weird.> I agree Margaret -- I don't understand why Hagrid doesn't at least say something to them about being sorry that they're in trouble & all. I didn't think that reflected well on Hagrid at all. Penny From cj_bsm at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 03:07:00 2000 From: cj_bsm at yahoo.com (cj_bsm at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 23:07:00 -0400 Subject: Fly like an Eagle Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1777 From: cj_bsm Subject: Re: Fly like an Eagle Reply To: [Yahoo! #1772] Re: Fly like an Eagle Date: 6/8/00 11:07 pm (ET) >Well, it appears that I'm about 50 posts behind. >Good grief -- how did that happen? Anyway . . . You've been busy obsessing over "Paradigm..." cj From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 03:15:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 23:15:00 -0400 Subject: Audio books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1778 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Audio books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1770] Re: Audio books Date: 6/8/00 11:15 pm (ET) Hi: <Ok... to anyone anywhere... if you are planning on getting the audio version... get the Learning Library ones (that is the US edition, read by Jim Dale). I have the UK version of Philosopher's Stone, and the US version of Chamber of Secrets - and COS is far the better version - Jim puts more life in it than Stephen does, though I did think Stephen was good, until I heard Dale.> Oh good -- I'm glad someone (especially someone from Britain) has done a comparison. I own the Jim Dale versions and had been contemplating whether it was worthwhile to own the UK audio versions. Glad to know I can cross that off my list of "must haves." <I also prefer the CD versions. My tape version is not lasting well - my car tape player almost mangled one of the tapes yesterday.> I have the tape versions as I don't have a CD player in my car, but I don't think the tapes are holding up all that well. Gosh, wonder if that has *anything* to do with the fact that I've listened to them a bazillion times *and* have loaned them to several people (hi Skimmel & Amy!). I'm slowing acquiring the CD versions for *when* I have a car CD player. I love the audio versions -- you pick up on so many things you missed before (or I do). Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 03:17:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 08 Jun 2000 23:17:00 -0400 Subject: Fly like an Eagle Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1779 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Fly like an Eagle Reply To: [Yahoo! #1777] Re: Fly like an Eagle Date: 6/8/00 11:17 pm (ET) Hi: <>Well, it appears that I'm about 50 posts behind. >Good grief -- how did that happen? Anyway . . . You've been busy obsessing over "Paradigm..."> Isn't that the truth? Obsessing over the lack of Paradigm is more like it. Penny From smitster1 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 04:05:00 2000 From: smitster1 at yahoo.com (smitster1 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 00:05:00 -0400 Subject: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1780 From: smitster1 Subject: Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Reply To: [Yahoo! #1776] Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Date: 6/9/00 12:05 am (ET) Comment: I've also always been bothered at Hagrid's behavior towards the end of book one. Up until the Forbidden Forest thing, Hagrid showed nothing but protection towards Harry. And then his actions drove Harry, et. al. to their eventual punishment. What's more, upon greeting them he says, "You've done wrong and now you've got to pay for it." Now that's cruel. Even if he may have been putting on an 'act' for Malfoy's sake. Question: Does the British edition also title Dumbledore as "Chief Warlock?" If it historically is an insult, this sounded curious. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 04:36:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 00:36:00 -0400 Subject: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1781 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Reply To: [Yahoo! #1771] Re: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Date: 6/9/00 12:36 am (ET) "So, if I get this straight. Time can be changed only if the outcome is uncertain." I thought I'd entered a Star Trek nerds club by mistake! So, how do we explain the fact that the outcome may be experienced differently by different people in the same timeline? Is it the case that anyone who witnessed the execution of Buckbeak could not alter that outcome, but those who merely knew it happened could alter it? And if they did alter the outcome, is it the case that the people who actually witnessed it automatically enter an alternate timeline? (the original scenario still playing out). If we apply an uncertaintly principle to Book 4, should we assume that anyone who does not know its title can still travel back through time, phone JK Rowling and persuade her to call it something else? Do we have to see the book, in front of us, before that situation is resolved? How can we stop one of the four billion or so other people on this planet from altering the timeline? Er, I've confused myself now. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 04:39:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 00:39:00 -0400 Subject: Audio books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1782 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Audio books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1770] Re: Audio books Date: 6/9/00 12:39 am (ET) Thanks Nick! I now know I should get the US CD versions (I didn't even think of talking books being on CD - duh!). I guess Amazon stock them? Neil From p_dumbledore at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 04:44:00 2000 From: p_dumbledore at yahoo.com (p_dumbledore at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 00:44:00 -0400 Subject: Audio books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1783 From: p_dumbledore Subject: Re: Audio books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1763] Re: Audio books Date: 6/9/00 12:44 am (ET) I like to listen to the tapes, while traveling when reading and watching the road is difficult. Jim Dale who has done the US tapes, and I understand the last two books sold in the UK instead of the original reader Stephen Fry. I would be interested in listening to the Fry read. Jim Dale is able to provide a very recognizeable voice for every person in the book, It's more than a read almost a radio play, I would recommend it to any one who enjoys tapes. I have the new audio book on order... 19 hours long on 12 tapes.. Whew !!! If you can get a Jim Dale read, sure would be interested in the difference between the Fry read. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 04:56:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 00:56:00 -0400 Subject: Audio books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1784 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Audio books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1783] Re: Audio books Date: 6/9/00 12:56 am (ET) I've seen Stephen Fry readings of the first two books, so I guess he did PoA as well. I'd like to compare them too, but I don't want to spend the entire contents of my vault on this aural experience! Clearly, from what you say, Book 4 is about twice as long as CoS... Neil Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 04:57:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 00:57:00 -0400 Subject: Audio books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1785 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Audio books Reply To: [Yahoo! #1784] Re: Audio books Date: 6/9/00 12:57 am (ET) Sorry, I signed that twice. The second one was an alternative me *witnessing* myself sending the message... N From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 07:09:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 03:09:00 -0400 Subject: Grindelwald Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1786 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Grindelwald Reply To: [Yahoo! #1766] Re: Grindelwald Date: 6/9/00 3:09 am (ET) <>Also, has a game of Quidditch ever been played >where the golden snitch was never caught? Say for >instance , Harry gets injured and Draco can't >catch the damn thing to save his life ! Maybe Quidditch has an equivalent to the "Fifty Move Rule" in chess -- If 50 moves are made without a capture or pawn move the game is automatically a draw. So maybe after a certain about of time without a capture of the snitch the game is automatically drawn.> When they are talking about quidditch in the build up to one of the games , I think Harry's first, they mention a game that went on for 3 months when they had to use substitutes! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 07:12:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 03:12:00 -0400 Subject: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1787 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Reply To: [Yahoo! #1780] Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Date: 6/9/00 3:12 am (ET) <Comment: I've also always been bothered at Hagrid's behavior towards the end of book one. Up until the Forbidden Forest thing, Hagrid showed nothing but protection towards Harry. And then his actions drove Harry, et. al. to their eventual punishment. What's more, upon greeting them he says, "You've done wrong and now you've got to pay for it." Now that's cruel. Even if he may have been putting on an 'act' for Malfoy's sake.> Matbe he is worried about finding out what is going on and this worry surfaces in a very cruel comment. <Question: Does the British edition also title Dumbledore as "Chief Warlock?" If it historically is an insult, this sounded curious.> Yes, message 1755 has his full title. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 07:23:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 03:23:00 -0400 Subject: Movie (was something about audio books) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1788 From: hert0661 Subject: Movie (was something about audio books) Reply To: [Yahoo! #1767] Movie casting based on the Audio books Date: 6/9/00 3:23 am (ET) <>Final thing on this point: Wouldn't it be great >if the books were done as radio plays, with >different actors playing the parts? Yes! I'd actually prefer this to a movie... (I don't want my personal images of the characters disrupted!)> Are we getting HP and the Sorcerer's Stone or HP and the Philosopher's Stone? Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 08:28:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 04:28:00 -0400 Subject: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1789 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Reply To: [Yahoo! #1781] Re: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Date: 6/9/00 4:28 am (ET) <So, how do we explain the fact that the outcome may be experienced differently by different people in the same timeline?> I think that it can be explained by saying that they cannot change anything that they know has definitely happened. H & H only change something that they have suspected to have happened but has in fact not happened! Hope that clears it all up! Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 08:35:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 04:35:00 -0400 Subject: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1790 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Reply To: [Yahoo! #1789] Re: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Date: 6/9/00 4:35 am (ET) Simon, I don't suppose you're studying for a BA in Harry Potter by any chance? Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 09:13:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 05:13:00 -0400 Subject: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1791 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Reply To: [Yahoo! #1790] Re: Some Ravenclaw Techno-babble Date: 6/9/00 5:13 am (ET) <Simon, I don't suppose you're studying for a BA in Harry Potter by any chance> Now that would be a good idea! Unfortunaley I am studying for a degree in mathematics, which is not nearly as exciting. Especially when exams, which count for 69% of my final grade, start on Monday. Simon (off to do more revision!) From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 09:50:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 05:50:00 -0400 Subject: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1792 From: babynick34 Subject: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Date: 6/9/00 5:50 am (ET) Hi all For those of you in the UK, if you want a Hogwarts Mug - I've put one on Yahoo Auctions. http://page.auctions.yahoo.com/uk/auction/28663523 I'm afraid the cost is a bit high... but the exchange rate is not good at the moment. At least postage is included if you are on the Mainland. I've only got the ONE spare mug. *** STOP PRESS *** Filly just called my answerphone... seems that Jo might not be in London July 12th. Will call her, to see what the latest is. Neil - did Waterstones say the date might be subject to change? Nick. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 10:20:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 06:20:00 -0400 Subject: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1793 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Reply To: [Yahoo! #1792] UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Date: 6/9/00 6:20 am (ET) Blimey, Nick! '20... Mind you, I've just spent $140+ on US CD versions of books 1-3, via Amazon (told you I'd give in on that one). Waterstones were a bit vague. The first person I spoke to hadn't got the foggiest idea, and the bloke I ended up asking said she was scheduled to appear. He hasn't got back to me yet. My friend David, a self-styled book dealer (and big HP fan), contacted Borders in Brighton. They are running a ticket-only event for the first 200 arrivals, with a 'one book-one signature' policy. This is supposedly on 8th July, which seems unlikely. Perhaps Jo feels that Brighton is a safer place, on that day, than London? Harrods say "they are dealing with" David's enquiry. I'm actually not that interested in getting a signature like some can of beans on a conveyor belt. I'd like to meet JK Rowling though. I remember the time I met Armistead Maupin at a book signing. I just stood there with my mouth open: "Do you want me to sign these?" "Yes" "There you go...!" I treasure that moment. Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 10:26:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 06:26:00 -0400 Subject: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1794 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Reply To: [Yahoo! #1793] Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Date: 6/9/00 6:26 am (ET) <I'd like to meet JK Rowling though. I remember the time I met Armistead Maupin at a book signing. I just stood there with my mouth open: "Do you want me to sign these?" "Yes" "There you go...!" I treasure that moment.> I remember a similar moment for myself with Terry Pratchett as I just managed to say my name, pass over the book and then have it rerturned too me and I left! Better was the time in the queue talking to people about his books. Can we hope for JKR to go on a book signing tour and visit some places (like Dorset) where most authors do not manage to get too! Simon From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 11:22:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 07:22:00 -0400 Subject: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1795 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Reply To: [Yahoo! #1793] Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Date: 6/9/00 7:22 am (ET) OK... Just spoken to Filly - "the one with Jo's diary". 8th July 2000 Jo will be at King's Cross Station, London to officially launch Book 4. They are indeed building a new platform - it is not known if this is tempoary, or if it will be a fixture. The Hogwarts Express will also be at the station on the 8th July... yes, they have a train! I've just booked the day off work - so hope to see you there. Anyone know the station very well? Where could we meet? - Waterstones - According to Jo's diary... she is there on Monday 17th July. No further details, unless you know of any Neil. That's the latest. Nick. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 11:27:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 07:27:00 -0400 Subject: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1796 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Reply To: [Yahoo! #1793] Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Date: 6/9/00 7:27 am (ET) I know '20 is a bit high... but we are not at a '1.63 to US$ ratio any more - and the shipping cost from Warner Bros was so high! $145 on CD's... I hope you got those sent DHL World Mail, or you may also get customs charges added if using the express option! $145 for those interested, is about '96 at current exchange rate of 1.51 '/US$ Nick. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 11:43:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 07:43:00 -0400 Subject: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1797 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Reply To: [Yahoo! #1795] Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Date: 6/9/00 7:43 am (ET) "Jo will be at King's Cross Station, London to officially launch Book 4." **Great. I was thinking of suggesting a London gathering at King's Cross Station, at some point. At this rate, the place will be rammed with kids! **The platform will probably be temporary, unless they want a permanent disruption to regional train services. Perhaps they'll demolish it when they pull down the Millennium Dome :) **I'm a bit worried about trying to buy the book at King's Cross itself though... I think I'll order it from WH Smith's, near where I live, pick it up there and then make my way to KC. "I've just booked the day off work - so hope to see you there. Anyone know the station very well? Where could we meet?" **I know it, but I haven't been there recently. I'll check it out tonight and suggest a sensible meeting place. Any idea what time? **This is complete madness, isn't it? Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 11:49:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 07:49:00 -0400 Subject: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1798 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Reply To: [Yahoo! #1796] Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Date: 6/9/00 7:49 am (ET) "$145 on CD's... I hope you got those sent DHL World Mail, or you may also get customs charges added if using the express option!" **I can't remember which option I selected. I don't really care though... I know they'll be worth every penny! Probably-insane-Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 12:20:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:20:00 -0400 Subject: JK signings in the UK... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1799 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: JK signings in the UK... Date: 6/9/00 8:20 am (ET) The Waterstone's, Piccadilly event is definitely on the 17th. David spoke to them directly. The Borders, Brighton signing is on the 18th (but only the first 200 people to buy a copy of the book on the 8th will be allowed in for the signing). I deduce that the Harrod's signing session is on probably on the 19th. That one will be for all the little Draco Malfoy clones to send the chauffeur in to get theirs signed. Apologies to all the US people for these very Anglocentric postings! Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 12:23:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:23:00 -0400 Subject: JK signings in the UK... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1800 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: JK signings in the UK... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1799] JK signings in the UK... Date: 6/9/00 8:23 am (ET) Apologies to all the US people for these very Anglocentric postings! I mean any non-UK people, of course :) From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 12:27:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:27:00 -0400 Subject: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1801 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Reply To: [Yahoo! #1798] Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Date: 6/9/00 8:27 am (ET) How true Neil... they will be worth every penny, even if UK customs do sting you for another '10 or '15. DHL World Mail from Amazon, for those interested, comes via Amsterdam. Never been charged yet (touch wood) importing via there, even with high value items such as DVD's. Ok... so back to my idea of an International J.K.Rowling Fan Club. If you would be interested in joining such a thing (and if I persuade Jo to allow it to happen), then please do visit: www.nicmit.com All you need to do is enter your email address on the form. Then, if it gets the go-ahead, you will be emailed info. Nick. UK Co-ordinator The International J.K.Rowling Fan Club (Unofficial) From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 12:46:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:46:00 -0400 Subject: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1802 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Reply To: [Yahoo! #1797] Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Date: 6/9/00 8:46 am (ET) **I know it, but I haven't been there recently. I'll check it out tonight and suggest a sensible meeting place. Any idea what time? - No idea... no details as yet about when Jo will be there, but I think the earlier the better! Though that will create a problem, as my local bookshop will not open til 9am, so earliest train I could get would be 10:12, arrriving Waterloo, 11 O'clock ish. Then tube accross to Kings Cross, I might get there for Midday! **This is complete madness, isn't it? Of course not. UPDATE: new warner brothers URL http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com No great info posted there... new address for US children to write to who want to be included in the movie (does this imply it's being filmed in the US?) Also a release date for first movie: 16th November 2000 I suspect this is the US release date! Nick. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 12:49:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:49:00 -0400 Subject: WorldMail Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1803 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: WorldMail Reply To: [Yahoo! #1801] Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Date: 6/9/00 8:49 am (ET) "DHL World Mail from Amazon, for those interested, comes via Amsterdam. Never been charged yet (touch wood) importing via there, even with high value items such as DVD's." Phew! I picked WorldMail when I ordered... From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 12:57:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 08:57:00 -0400 Subject: JK signings in the UK... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1804 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: JK signings in the UK... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1799] JK signings in the UK... Date: 6/9/00 8:57 am (ET) Hi: <Apologies to all the US people for these very Anglocentric postings!> No apologies needed! I'm *enjoying* hearing about the UK events, and I can almost "hear" your British accents in your posts. :--) I am quite peeved that there will be a mockup of Platform 9 3/4 (which might or might not be permanent)at King's Cross. I'm the one who dragged my reluctant spouse halfway across London to King's Cross station as I just *had* to see the barrier between Platforms 9 & 10. Only to discover that there *was* no such barrier. That was such a letdown! It will be several years at least before we get back to the UK for a vacation (sadly), so someone needs to send me pictures of all this. If any of you UK folks have a scanner, perhaps you could scan in some photos and post them to the photos section of this Board. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 13:00:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 09:00:00 -0400 Subject: Movie Release Date Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1805 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Movie Release Date Reply To: [Yahoo! #1802] Re: UK ONLY - Hogwarts Mug Date: 6/9/00 9:00 am (ET) Hi: <Also a release date for first movie: 16th November 2000 I suspect this is the US release date!> WHAT???! I thought it was scheduled for release in May 2000. If they are already *that* behind, it doesn't bode well, does it? I'd be interested to hear where it's being filmed. I would have hoped it would be filmed in the UK (Scotland preferably). I hope they don't just settle for having 3 British actors (Harry, Ron & Hermione). I'd rather see the vast majority of the cast (and the extras) be British and have it filmed in Britain. I guess they are not asking me though, are they? Penny From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 13:15:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 09:15:00 -0400 Subject: Movie Release Date Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1806 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Movie Release Date Reply To: [Yahoo! #1805] Movie Release Date Date: 6/9/00 9:15 am (ET) <I'd be interested to hear where it's being filmed. I would have hoped it would be filmed in the UK (Scotland preferably). I hope they don't just settle for having 3 British actors (Harry, Ron & Hermione). I'd rather see the vast majority of the cast (and the extras) be British and have it filmed in Britain. I guess they are not asking me though, are they?> Very conflicting messages seem to being made. There seems to be different casting for both USA and UK. At last count they were asking for people who could do a proper British accent, but this does not guarantee a British cast. I heard that they were planning to film in the UK, maybe at the studio where one of the recent Bond films was filmed. It will be interesting to see where they pick for the castle! Simon From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 13:27:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 09:27:00 -0400 Subject: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1807 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Reply To: [Yahoo! #1780] Re: Wizard Vs. Warlock and Mugwump Date: 6/9/00 9:27 am (ET) Question: Does the British edition also title Dumbledore as "Chief Warlock?" If it historically is an insult, this sounded curious. Historically it certainly is, but you will still find the word in fairy tales and fantasy books, though I think even there it usually has a negative connotation, implying Dark Wizardry. Wizard, Sorcerer, Mage, Magician all have a better connotation. Someone who is using the word from a fairy tale context might not in fact know the history of the word, but JK, with her immense sensitivity to language, strikes me as someone who would. Curious. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 13:51:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 09:51:00 -0400 Subject: Um, signings (again) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1808 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Um, signings (again) Date: 6/9/00 9:51 am (ET) Here's the latest:- "....The JK Rowling event is not confirmed as yet but it is regarded that the 17th July is the possible date. As and when it is confirmed we will e-mail you to notify you of the details. We are very sorry for the confusion surrounding these events. Customer Services Waterstone's Piccadilly" Perhaps they should send me an owl... Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 13:56:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 09:56:00 -0400 Subject: JK signings in the UK... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1809 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: JK signings in the UK... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1804] Re: JK signings in the UK... Date: 6/9/00 9:56 am (ET) "No apologies needed! I'm *enjoying* hearing about the UK events, and I can almost "hear" your British accents in your posts. :--)" **Oh dear, is it that obvious? "If any of you UK folks have a scanner, perhaps you could scan in some photos and post them to the photos section of this Board." **I guess we'll be fighting for that job... but I had planned to do that anyway. The event in New York sounds like fun too. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 14:02:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 10:02:00 -0400 Subject: Movie Release Date Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1810 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Movie Release Date Reply To: [Yahoo! #1805] Movie Release Date Date: 6/9/00 10:02 am (ET) "WHAT???! I thought it was scheduled for release in May 2000. If they are already *that* behind, it doesn't bode well, does it?" Don't you mean 2001? Otherwise, they'd better get their skates on with those casting sessions! I thought it had been moved from May to November 2001, probably so they could cash in on the merchandise over Christmas. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 14:23:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 10:23:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1811 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Please humour me... Date: 6/9/00 10:23 am (ET) Hi everyone! Amazing as it may seem, less than a month ago I had only a subliminal, if any, awareness of JK Rowling and Harry Potter. I was given the Philosopher's Stone on 12th May, for my birthday the next day, and even then didn't start reading the thing immediately. And, look at me now - a half-crazed fanatic! Anyway, as I'm still fairly new to this club, it would be good to hear from other members about how they got into Harry Potter in the first place (with apologies if you've been through this before). I've already noticed that most of you are women (five points to Gryffindor!) and concluded that most of you are either parents, teachers, writers or witches (or all of the above) and that many of you were, like me, introduced to the books by another fan. I'd like to know how you felt reading the books for the first time, and when you realised this was no ordinary experience... Also, do any other authors grab you in quite same way? Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 14:58:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 10:58:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1812 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1811] Please humour me... Date: 6/9/00 10:58 am (ET) <...hear from other members about how they got into Harry Potter in the first place...> While revising, about 2 months ago when I was just starting this long boring process, I decided that I wanted something to read and chose the 'latest phenomenon' expecting a normal kids book. I really enjoyed the first and then read the second and third. <I've already noticed that most of you are women (five points to Gryffindor!) and concluded that most of you are either parents, teachers, writers or witches (or all of the above) and that many of you were, like me, introduced to the books by another fan.> No. No. No. No. No. No. (I think that answers that!) <I'd like to know how you felt reading the books for the first time, and when you realised this was no ordinary experience...> I have no idea how to explain this, except that once I had started I was not going to stop reading until I had finished. <Also, do any other authors grab you in quite same way?> Terry Pratchett. Simon From morrigan09 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 17:19:00 2000 From: morrigan09 at yahoo.com (morrigan09 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 13:19:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1813 From: morrigan09 Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1811] Please humour me... Date: 6/9/00 1:19 pm (ET) well, I was in Vienna and wandered into an English-language bookshop. I picked up PS, skimmed it, bought it, and then the very next day I was back again for book 2... so I realised it at once. But I never dreamed it would force me to start writing fan fiction-- I just couldn't seem to let go of the story. The fascination for me is in the vivid characterisations, and the complicated relationships between the characters as well as the beautifully real-seeming wizarding world. Jane Austen is the only other writer I can imagine doing fan fiction for, and one of very few authors that I've re-read more times than JKR. I think a twin Harry Potter/Jane Austen obsession isn't as unusual as you'd expect, I know other fanfiction writers who have it. Anyone else here? And I'm female, a writer and a wizard ;-), so I fit your generalisation fairly well! From pt4ever at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 20:33:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 16:33:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1814 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1813] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/9/00 4:33 pm (ET) I'd heard of Harry Potter before I began reading the books, because my aunt is a third-grade teacher (now sixth-grade) who absolutely loved the books and read them to her kids. They even did a Harry Potter play in her classroom! Anyway, I thought about reading one so I could discuss them with her, but I really didn't act on my vague desire until January 2000. My mother is a librarian, and I went to the library with her to help her catalogue her books, and when we were getting ready to leave she handed me a paperback copy of Sorcerer's Stone and asked, "Do you want to read some Harry Potter?" I said, "What the heck, it's a 45-min. car ride home and I have nothing better to do." So, I began to read, and by the time we got home I could not put it down. I didn't even stop reading while walking into the house (and I nearly stepped on my cat!). As soon as I got back to college I went to barnesandnoble.com and ordered my own copies of SS, CoS, and PoA. Now, I am eagerly and anxiously awaiting my copy of book 4! BTW, I'm enjoying the "Anglocentric" posts as well. I've never been to the UK (I've never seen the ocean or been overseas at all, actually) but I dream of visiting London someday, perhaps during or after college. -- JoAnna From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 22:04:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 18:04:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1815 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1811] Please humour me... Date: 6/9/00 6:04 pm (ET) Hi all >I've already noticed that most of you are women (five points to Gryffindor!) and concluded that most of you are either parents, teachers, writers or witches (or all of the above) and that many of you were, like me, introduced to the books by another fan. Ok... answers to the above first: Women - Nope Parents - Nope Teachers - Not as such Writers - Nope Witch - Nope Introduced by another fan - Nope Ok... so here are my details: Age: 25 Gender: Male Current Occupation: Children's Retail (UK Sales Manager for Rainbow Play Systems, Inc.) Previous Occupations: Children's Nanny. PC Engineer. Pre-school assistant. Nursery Worker. How was I introduced: July 1999... must have watched the news about POA book launch. Forgot all about it until... November 1999... I still nanny 2 days a week in addition to my full-time job, so I was hunting for a Birthday present for the 8 year-old I nanny. Went into a bookshop... saw Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone, and brought it. Thought nothing about it until his Birthday came - then I read the first chapter to him that evening at bedtime. I enjoyed it so much... next day I went to the bookshop and brought all 3 books. That was just the beginning! I won't bore you with the rest of the goings on since then - some of you will know about it... some won't... it's boring stuff... legal dispute with Warner Bros. that sort of thing. >I'd like to know how you felt reading the books for the first time, and when you realised this was no ordinary experience... That was a while back now... so not sure how to answer... but it's just that I've never been much of a reader. In fact, I was always bad at English at school... and as my mum will tell you (if you ask her), I've never read a 'story book' longer than a few pages, cover to cover before I discovered the Harry Potter books. I think it boils down to how the books encourage you to continue reading... once you have read a chapter, it's very hard to put the book down. My Managing Director at work has found this out very recently... her daughter (aged 7) was ill from school on Thursday, so she stayed home with her - and started to read POA to her. She called me at lunchtime to say that she loved the book! >Also, do any other authors grab you in quite same way? Nope... not really read books by any other authors. However, I did read Bill Bryson's Notes from a Big Country... and I liked that, but I can't get into another of his books. Nick. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 22:08:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 18:08:00 -0400 Subject: Movie Release Date Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1816 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Movie Release Date Reply To: [Yahoo! #1810] Re: Movie Release Date Date: 6/9/00 6:08 pm (ET) >Don't you mean 2001? Otherwise, they'd better get their skates on with those casting sessions! Yes, I thought it was a mistake too... but it does appear to be November 2000. Take a look yourself - http://harrypotter.warnerbros.com/cmp/casting.html Nick From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 22:12:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 18:12:00 -0400 Subject: JK signings in the UK... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1817 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: JK signings in the UK... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1804] Re: JK signings in the UK... Date: 6/9/00 6:12 pm (ET) >It will be several years at least before we get back to the UK for a vacation (sadly), so someone needs to send me pictures of all this. If any of you UK folks have a scanner, perhaps you could scan in some photos and post them to the photos section of this Board. No problem Penny. I'll take my digital camera with me - far easier than getting pictures developed and then scanned. With luck, will be able to have images available within a few hours of the event. Talking of which... 11am seems to be the time the book will be launched. Went to Woodley today (near Reading) and the bookshop there said that they could not sell the book until 11am on the 8th. So... in terms of a meeting time... I'd say 10am, maybe a little earlier. With luck we might be able to get a copy of the book up there, though if you do not already have one on order - may be worth putting one on order with your local bookstore, bloomsbury directly, or with amazon etc. Nick. Nick. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 22:13:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 18:13:00 -0400 Subject: JK signings in the UK... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1818 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: JK signings in the UK... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1817] Re: JK signings in the UK... Date: 6/9/00 6:13 pm (ET) Oh no... I just doubled signed like Neil did! Neil... it must be catching. Nick. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 22:37:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 18:37:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1819 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1815] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/9/00 6:37 pm (ET) <Nope... not really read books by any other authors. However, I did read Bill Bryson's Notes from a Big Country... and I liked that, but I can't get into another of his books.> I have read most of his books and they vary from unreadablde to very very funny. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 9 23:50:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 19:50:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1820 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1815] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/9/00 7:50 pm (ET) Inevitably, as soon as I list some likely attributes of our club members, we hear from two male, non-parental, non-teaching, non-writing, muggles who discovered the books by their own endeavours... But, as for the *rest* of you... it's different, eh? So, November 2000 for the film. Are they seriously releasing a major box office film in November when they haven't even cast it in June? Wow. As for the King's Cross event, I aborted my attempt to go there on my way home from work, because there was a signal failure at Victoria, and some other nonsense happening on the Underground. Yawn. The usual rush hour story with London transport (no steam trains in the vicinity, unfortunately!) Okay then, Nick. Let's say 10.00 and decide on a meeting point later. I suspect the place will be packed with excitable children and TV cameras, not mention a few people hoping to use the station for travelling purposes (a novel idea, but it works). I'm assuming there are a *few* other British people active in this club, who might be able to get there? Note: Apparently, PoA was launched in Manchester - that's northern England - last year (not sure why - any ideas???) and they had trouble with the queues. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 00:01:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 20:01:00 -0400 Subject: Stepping on cats Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1821 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Stepping on cats Reply To: [Yahoo! #1814] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/9/00 8:01 pm (ET) "I didn't even stop reading while walking into the house (and I nearly stepped on my cat!)." Thanks for that image JoAnna! I was the same, en route to work. I alighted from trains and just kept on reading. I walked along streets holding the book out in front of me like a preacher, knocking people sideways in my wake. Nothing else existed while I was absorbed in that book. I was captivated and oblivious to my surroundings. I was damn nearly run over by a car on several occasions. See? Those books ARE dangerous. Neil-Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 00:30:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 20:30:00 -0400 Subject: Sprout Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1822 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Sprout Date: 6/9/00 8:30 pm (ET) Q: Does Professor Sprout have a first name? I mean, do we know what it is? Comment: If not, I guess 'Brussels' and 'Prefab' are not very likely. Any suggestions? I like 'Wisteria' or 'Belladonna'. Or is she just 'Sprout', like 'Cher'? Neil-Neil From p_dumbledore at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 00:58:00 2000 From: p_dumbledore at yahoo.com (p_dumbledore at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 20:58:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1823 From: p_dumbledore Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1811] Please humour me... Date: 6/9/00 8:58 pm (ET) Not a big reader, but like to listen to books on tape in particular when traveling. A Douglas Adams fan, and have all his books on tape, for an author he is one of the better readers. Picked up the first tape set, for a short vacation trip and the wife and I listened intently, enjoying the Jim Dale read, and the story. Unfortuntately it ended too soon, and we were craving more. Found a book store out in the wilderness that happened to have the next tape set. The trip back home was completed with book two, and went out and got three for a business trip. Trying to plan a nice vacation trip to enjoy the 19 hours of the next tape when it arrives. Hope the tape player in the car holds up! Prof Dumbledore From Danemead at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 01:19:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 21:19:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1824 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1811] Please humour me... Date: 6/9/00 9:19 pm (ET) Dear Neil-Neil Woman - yes Parent - no Teacher - no Writer - no Witch - no (alas!) I read about the Harry Potter phenomenon in an article in the book section of the Sunday paper last fall. I seem to have missed out reading a lot of the children's classics when I was a child, being more absorbed in Hardy Boys, Nancy Drew, and horse stories, so I had been reading - for the first time at age 47 - things like Chronicles of Narnia and the Wrinkle in Time quartet. I sent for a copy of HP/SS and LOVED it -- immediately ordered the other two. In preparation for #4, I pulled the other 3 off the shelf to re-read them. Now I have begun to think I will have them memorized soon. Thank heaven next month I will have a new loooooong book to devour. I tend to enjoy the beginning chapters of the books the most (Harry's background and the events leading up to the arrival at Hogwarts). From estesrandy at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 02:05:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 22:05:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1825 From: estesrandy Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1811] Please humour me... Date: 6/9/00 10:05 pm (ET) Female- no Parent-yes teacher-no writer- a little for my own enjoyment witch- not that i am aware of- Still waiting for a letter from Hogwarts It all started with my son Brian who is an advanced reader for his young six years. He was forced to change schools when we moved, so his teacher gave him the first book as a going away gift for us to read to him and later for him to read to himself. My wife proceeds to read it to him and gets hooked. She then buys the other two and goes off the deep end. Since my son wants to hear it again, she gets me to read it aloud to him. We take turns reading aloud to our sons. I was reading along to him and started to make up different voices for the characters. Aunt Petunia sounds like one of the Monty Python characters in drag. Vernon is the uptight english businessman's voice. But then I started reading Hagrid in my best Scottish accent and fell in love with the story. I worked with a few Scotsmen and his voice is a combination of all the things I remember. Kind of like Sean Connery after a full night of drinking. I was saddened when we had to quit reading each night for him to go to bed. So after the first book, I proceeded to read the other two to myself so I can understand the weird conversations between my son and his mother about the Harry Potter stories. I practically ignored my in-laws over the Easter weekend even though we had driven 300 miles to see them because I was trying to finish the third book and they kept interrupting me! They kept wanting to talk about the Elian Gonzalez story and I wanted to know what was going to happen next in the shrieking shack. So I stayed up a few minutes later each night until I finished POA. I haven't read books with this enthusiasm since I read Ray Bradbury books back in high school. I did like the Douglas Adams books too since someone mentioned them in another post. My wife has been converting all her friends and her mom to the Harry Potter books. I have briefly mentioned them at work to people who can't comprehend the phenomenon unless they have kids. From ggbickerson at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 03:02:00 2000 From: ggbickerson at yahoo.com (ggbickerson at yahoo.com) Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2000 23:02:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1826 From: ggbickerson Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1825] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/9/00 11:02 pm (ET) I am a female, a parent, writer (for pleasure and maybe someday for a living) AND a teacher...(how many points does that get us!) LOL I got hooked on the first book when I subbed in a classroom and the teacher had left it for me to read as a filler. I asked for them for xmas, got ALL 3 and am soo excited for number four so I can read the rest of the summer away! I don't post here a lot but I do read a lot of what you all talk about. I have found these books to be facinating and very imaginative! I have started re-reading number one to my son, but the chapters are long and he's only 10 months old so I may have to wait a few more years! From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 07:47:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 03:47:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1827 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1825] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/10/00 3:47 am (ET) <But then I started reading Hagrid in my best Scottish accent and fell in love with the story. I worked with a few Scotsmen and his voice is a combination of all the things I remember. Kind of like Sean Connery after a full night of drinking. I was saddened when we had to quit reading each night for him to go to bed...> Scottish? I was going with him being from the west country or a cockney (from east end of Londen). What do others think? Simon From Danemead at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 08:26:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 04:26:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as an Animagi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1828 From: Danemead Subject: Harry as an Animagi Date: 6/10/00 4:26 am (ET) If Harry Potter ever became an Animagi, what sort of animal do you think he would become? I'm rather partial to the idea of a black panther with emerald green eyes! Danemead From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 08:51:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 04:51:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as an Animagi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1829 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry as an Animagi Reply To: [Yahoo! #1828] Harry as an Animagi Date: 6/10/00 4:51 am (ET) <If Harry Potter ever became an Animagi, what sort of animal do you think he would become? I'm rather partial to the idea of a black panther with emerald green eyes!> I believe JKR has said he will not be one. If he did, I could see him becoming a stag like James. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 10:53:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 06:53:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as an Animagi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1830 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Harry as an Animagi Reply To: [Yahoo! #1828] Harry as an Animagi Date: 6/10/00 6:53 am (ET) "If Harry Potter ever became an Animagi, what sort of animal do you think he would become? I'm rather partial to the idea of a black panther with emerald green eyes!" That would be interesting... Do you think people can choose an animagus, or are they just turned into 'whatever', based on their character? I guess not. Imagine Sirius Black as a French Poodle, Peter Pettigrew as a goldfish, James Potter as a hamster... and Professor McGonagall as a flea. Not quite the same, is it? Neil From cj_bsm at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 12:07:00 2000 From: cj_bsm at yahoo.com (cj_bsm at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 08:07:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as an Animagi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1831 From: cj_bsm Subject: Re: Harry as an Animagi Reply To: [Yahoo! #1829] Re: Harry as an Animagi Date: 6/10/00 8:07 am (ET) <If Harry Potter ever became an Animagi, what sort of animal do you think he would become? I'm rather partial to the idea of a black panther with emerald green eyes!> >>I believe JKR has said he will not be one. >>If he did, I could see him becoming a stag like >>James. Ooooo, I really like the black panther idea...much easier to get around. Speaking of getting around, in POA I think it was Lupin who said Black, Potter, and Pettigrew would transform, then come through the passage to the shrieking shack to meet up with werewolf Lupin. Sometime before that the passage was described as rather cramped. I've always wondered how Prongs and his antlers fit into that passageway...any ideas??? cj From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 12:17:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 08:17:00 -0400 Subject: A Bit of Fun Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1832 From: babynick34 Subject: A Bit of Fun Date: 6/10/00 8:17 am (ET) Hi all I'm bored at work, so I've been playing with Anagrams... they are great things! Here is one for you to try: gardening poles Hint: Something to do with the Hogwarts Creast. Need another hint... scroll down. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Hint 2 . It is not: dragon penis gel (Yes, that is a valid anagram, but not the one I'm looking for) From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 12:29:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 08:29:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as an Animagi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1833 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry as an Animagi Reply To: [Yahoo! #1831] Re: Harry as an Animagi Date: 6/10/00 8:29 am (ET) <Ooooo, I really like the black panther idea...much easier to get around. Speaking of getting around, in POA I think it was Lupin who said Black, Potter, and Pettigrew would transform, then come through the passage to the shrieking shack to meet up with werewolf Lupin. Sometime before that the passage was described as rather cramped. I've always wondered how Prongs and his antlers fit into that passageway...any ideas???> Maybe by cramped it means that there is not much height to the tunnel. This would mean that it would be difficult for a person to stand up in but a stag would be fine as its antlers would not be as high. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 12:38:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 08:38:00 -0400 Subject: A Bit of Fun Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1834 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: A Bit of Fun Reply To: [Yahoo! #1832] A Bit of Fun Date: 6/10/00 8:38 am (ET) <I'm bored at work, so I've been playing with Anagrams... they are great things! Here is one for you to try: gardening poles Hint: Something to do with the Hogwarts Creast.> Obviously, the very famous: Ireland peg song Simon From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 13:51:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:51:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1835 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1823] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/10/00 9:51 am (ET) Hi: We have done this before, but I think it's fun and we've got lots of new members (so, hint hint, I think our longstanding members should join in too). Female, not a parent yet, a budding writer of sorts (not fiction), not a teacher & not introduced by someone else really. My sister (3rd grade teacher) did ask for them for Christmas, and when I visited bn.com and saw I could buy all 3 hardbacks for under $30, I thought I would buy myself a set as well "to see what all the fuss was about." In my case, the "fuss" was not necessarily that I'd heard friends talking about the books, but rather that I couldn't help noticing the number of weeks these books had spent on the NY Times Bestseller List (being the voracious reader that I am). So . . . I picked up SS in mid-January. Read all 3 books within a week. After devouring SS & CoS, I told myself I would savor PoA since it would be months before the release of Book 4. My resolution to "savor" this book lasted about, oh, 1.5 days. I told myself I'd just read a chapter with my lunch one Saturday and found myself out on the back deck 5 hours later, still reading nonstop. I suspect that will be the case with Book 4. Despite all good intentions to "savor" it -- it will be read in short order. Other authors that draw me in like JKR -- well, I bet noone on this board will have this one except one other friend (hi Nancy if you're still reading) -- Laura Ingalls Wilder. You Brits may have heard of Noel Barber -- noone in the US has. But honestly, the HP books are still quite special in their own way, and the appeal they have can't really be matched for me, even with my other long-time favorite authors. Hard to explain really. Sorry for the rambling . . . Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 13:55:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:55:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's Accent Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1836 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Hagrid's Accent Reply To: [Yahoo! #1827] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/10/00 9:55 am (ET) Hi: <Scottish? I was going with him being from the west country or a cockney (from east end of London). What do others think?> Great topic -- I've always meant to ask this question. I've heard others, including my husband, say that Hagrid has a Scottish brogue. That's certainly the tack that Jim Dale took with the audio versions. But, when I read through them the first time, I thought west country. Or maybe Cockney/East London. But, I thought it more likely that Hagrid grew up in a rural area than in East London. So, I settled on west country. UK members: what do you think??? Penny From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 13:57:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:57:00 -0400 Subject: I'm Really Bored at work Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1837 From: babynick34 Subject: I'm Really Bored at work Date: 6/10/00 9:57 am (ET) Hi all Ok... so if you are really bored as well... here is something for you to do. How many times does the word 'Harry' or plural's of the word occur in Chapter One of Philosophers/Sorcerers Stone? I don't think there should be a difference between the two versions when it comes to that word. As you can see... I'm very bored today! Nick - sat in a hot office on Saturday afternoon, thinking of the next thing to do. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 13:58:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 09:58:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as an Animagi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1838 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Harry as an Animagi Reply To: [Yahoo! #1828] Harry as an Animagi Date: 6/10/00 9:58 am (ET) Hi: <If Harry Potter ever became an Animagi, what sort of animal do you think he would become? I'm rather partial to the idea of a black panther with emerald green eyes!> Since my high school mascot was a black panther, I *like* that image! I haven't heard JKR say he won't be an animagi. He is alot like his father, but I would think he might nonetheless have his own unique animagi if he became one. On the other hand, is his patronus form any indication of what animagi he would become? If so . . . then he would be stag like James. Penny From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 14:01:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 10:01:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's Accent Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1839 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Hagrid's Accent Reply To: [Yahoo! #1836] Hagrid's Accent Date: 6/10/00 10:01 am (ET) See the following URL: http://www.dvd-films.freeuk.com/harrypotter/b1hagrid.html "Hagrid is an Old English word meaning, if you were hagrid, you had had a bad night. Hagrid is a big drinker he's had a lot of bad nights." I think he's Cockney... Nick. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 14:04:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 10:04:00 -0400 Subject: I'm Really Bored at work Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1840 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: I'm Really Bored at work Reply To: [Yahoo! #1837] I'm Really Bored at work Date: 6/10/00 10:04 am (ET) <How many times does the word 'Harry' or plural's of the word occur in Chapter One of Philosophers/Sorcerers Stone?> I would gues at around 20, but am supposed to be working so will have to wait until later to check. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 15:53:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 11:53:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's Accent Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1841 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Hagrid's Accent Reply To: [Yahoo! #1839] Re: Hagrid's Accent Date: 6/10/00 11:53 am (ET) Hagrid: Maybe he just has some sort of nondescript 'uncultured' accent? He seems very much part of the Magic world and is not that familiar with the ways of the Muggle world. Is there any reason to assume that pure-blood wizards and witches assume the same dialects as Muggles? Is he pure-blood? I hear him as vaguely Cockney, but Hagrid *sounds* like a good name for a wild-looking Highland warrior, so he could be a Scot. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 15:59:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 11:59:00 -0400 Subject: A Bit of Fun Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1842 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: A Bit of Fun Reply To: [Yahoo! #1832] A Bit of Fun Date: 6/10/00 11:59 am (ET) Here is one for you to try: gardening poles It's not the Hogwart's caretaker, Reginald Sponge, is it? Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 16:02:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 12:02:00 -0400 Subject: A Bit of Fun Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1843 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: A Bit of Fun Reply To: [Yahoo! #1842] Re: A Bit of Fun Date: 6/10/00 12:02 pm (ET) It's not the Hogwart's caretaker, Reginald Sponge, is it? Note - he only works there in the summer holidays, when Filch is in Marbella, earning extra money as a pole dancer... Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 16:32:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 12:32:00 -0400 Subject: A Bit of Fun Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1844 From: Danemead Subject: Re: A Bit of Fun Reply To: [Yahoo! #1843] Re: A Bit of Fun Date: 6/10/00 12:32 pm (ET) >>>>V...Filch is in Marbella, earning extra money as a pole dancer...<<<< OMIGOD! What an image!! :P I'm also beginning to suspect that Hagrid and Prof. McGonnagall have a thing going on... From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 22:04:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 18:04:00 -0400 Subject: Book 4 - Cheapest UK Supplier Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1845 From: babynick34 Subject: Book 4 - Cheapest UK Supplier Date: 6/10/00 6:04 pm (ET) Hi all... For anyone interested... WHSMITHONLINE are the cheapest online supplier for Book 4 in the UK. '7.50 plus postage ('2.24) And you can get Clubcard points as well! They also have the US Cloth Back edition coming in... and price seems very good, considering the poor US$ exchange rate at the moment. Nick --------------- The International J.K.Rowling Fan Club (unofficial) http://www.nicmit.com From p_dumbledore at yahoo.com Sat Jun 10 22:54:00 2000 From: p_dumbledore at yahoo.com (p_dumbledore at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 18:54:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter Chat ?? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1846 From: p_dumbledore Subject: Harry Potter Chat ?? Date: 6/10/00 6:54 pm (ET) Anyone aware of a Harry Potter Chat area that is active? Or reasonably so. This is one of the best e-mail groups I've found, but still looking for an online chat area. BTW - While out shopping at the Mall, we found our own "Hedwig" Owl. To take to the Harry Potter Night Party on the 7th. It's really nice and been great fun just playing with it. Check here... http://www.folkmanis.com/snowybig.htm They also have a Scabbers..(RAT) if your so inclined.. Prof Dumbledore From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 02:55:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 22:55:00 -0400 Subject: Book 4 - Cheapest UK Supplier Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1847 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Book 4 - Cheapest UK Supplier Reply To: [Yahoo! #1845] Book 4 - Cheapest UK Supplier Date: 6/10/00 10:55 pm (ET) Re: WH Smiths (UK stationer/book shop). I pre-ordered book 4 from my local branch, and I was given a glossy slip, designed specifically for advance orders of the Harry Potter book. I had to pay a one pound deposit and agree to collect before 22nd July to ensure supply. As if I would wait *that* long before picking it up! Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 02:59:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 22:59:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter Chat ?? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1848 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Harry Potter Chat ?? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1846] Harry Potter Chat ?? Date: 6/10/00 10:59 pm (ET) **BTW - While out shopping at the Mall, we found our own "Hedwig" Owl. To take to the Harry Potter Night Party on the 7th. It's really nice and been great fun just playing with it. Check here... http://www.folkmanis.com/snowybig.htm** BLESS! It's very cute. Which reminds me... that was one of items on my rather fanciful HP shopping list. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 03:22:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2000 23:22:00 -0400 Subject: Nick's club... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1849 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Nick's club... Date: 6/10/00 11:22 pm (ET) Nick, I had a look at your club page and dutifully entered my e-mail address (BTW, is that witch wearing a bikini?). Note...it says "Rowing" at the bottom of the page. I'm interested in the fact that Warner Brothers own the trademark 'Harry Potter'. Is that the name itself or the logo they use? I would have assumed that the author or publishers owned the rights to the name. I gather you had some legal trouble over a previous web site??? It's a bit of a minefield (cough - I'm speaking from experience). What do you envisage doing with this fan club? Won't it be a bit difficult to run it, if it doesn't have the support of the author/publishers etc. Have they commented on your idea? Anyway, good luck with it. Neil From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 09:28:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 05:28:00 -0400 Subject: Nick's club... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1850 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Nick's club... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1849] Nick's club... Date: 6/11/00 5:28 am (ET) Hi Neil and all >I had a look at your club page and dutifully entered my e-mail address (BTW, is that witch wearing a bikini?). Yes... it look as though she is doesn't it. Do you like the Logo? >Note...it says "Rowing" at the bottom of the page. Thanks for spotting that one. Proof reading has never been my strong point, and a spell checker would pick up on that one. Pages have now been updated with the correct spelling. >I'm interested in the fact that Warner Brothers own the trademark 'Harry Potter'. Is that the name itself or the logo they use? Unknown... from my discussions with their solicitors in London, it appears they have filed for a trademark of the name itself. >I would have assumed that the author or publishers owned the rights to the name. Yes, they own the rights to the use of the name, but they do not automatically own the trademark - at least, that's my understanding. Do we have a Lawyer in the house? As a lot of the Harry Potter Properties (as they are known) have been given over to Warner Bros (for a high fee no doubt), Warner do seem to be the Big Guys in control. >I gather you had some legal trouble over a previous web site??? It's a bit of a minefield (cough - I'm speaking from experience). Only a wee bit... cough, cough. I don't know why, but Warner UK took a disliking to my main site (formerly www.harrypotterisawizard.co.uk) After a good few months of battles with their solicitors, the domain was handed over to them. They also have my www.doomspell.co.uk domain, but that appears to be still inactive - so does that tell us something about the title of book 4? >What do you envisage doing with this fan club? Well, the aim is for a club, run by fans, for fans. So... your input is requested as to what you would like from a fan club. The main idea will be to run it something like the way The International Wizard Of Oz club is run. But to start with, due to cost implications, the club will be based on-line, rather than accepting postal memberships. >Won't it be a bit difficult to run it, if it doesn't have the support of the author/publishers etc. Have they commented on your idea? Yes it might be... however I keep asking Jo about having an International Club, and am getting no where - thus, for now, the immediate plan is to establish how many people would like to join such a club, and in doing so, convince Jo and the powers at be, that a club would be worthwhile having. >Anyway, good luck with it. Thanks, think I will need it. Assistance is required with the club... so anyone who wants to offer help, let me know. Nick From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 09:30:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 05:30:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter Chat ?? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1851 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Harry Potter Chat ?? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1846] Harry Potter Chat ?? Date: 6/11/00 5:30 am (ET) The Chat area here works... but whenever I go in there, no one else comes in. Maybe we need to have a chat schedule, so we know when chat will occur. How about... 8pm BST Sunday (i.e. today). Not sure what that is in EST, or PST. Nick. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 09:49:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 05:49:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter Chat ?? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1852 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry Potter Chat ?? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1851] Re: Harry Potter Chat ?? Date: 6/11/00 5:49 am (ET) <How about... 8pm BST Sunday (i.e. today). Not sure what that is in EST, or PST.> EDT, which appears as the post time for messages, is 5 hours behing BST. Hope that helps. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 11:47:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 07:47:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter Chat ?? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1853 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Harry Potter Chat ?? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1852] Re: Harry Potter Chat ?? Date: 6/11/00 7:47 am (ET) As the founder of another Yahoo club (off-topic and much less active), I can confirm that the chat rooms work better with a scheduled meeting time. This is quite a small club really, so the chances of two people both being online for chatting at the same time are slim. 8pm is a good choice, because we should all be awake - even the Australian/NZ members, if there are any! Maybe see you in there... Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 11:57:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 07:57:00 -0400 Subject: Reading around... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1854 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Reading around... Date: 6/11/00 7:57 am (ET) When I went to order my HP4, I decided to buy three other books with a fantasy-for-juveniles angle, to see how they compare with JK Rowling. The only other criterion I set was that I musn't have read anything by the authors before (so, no Tolkien, CS Lewis et al) I bought "The Colour of Magic" by Terry Pratchett (thanks for that tip, Simon); "The Magicians of Caprona" by Diana Wynne Jones; and "The Iron Giant" by Ted Hughes. I'll let you know what I make of them! Incidentally, Warner Bros apparently did a good job with the cartoon version of "The Iron Giant". That's why I want to read that one (it's only 62 pages long though!) Neil From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 13:09:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:09:00 -0400 Subject: Reading around... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1855 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Reading around... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1854] Reading around... Date: 6/11/00 9:09 am (ET) The Iron Giant is a poem (I seem to recall) thus why the shorter length. The Warner Cartoon was quite good... I have it on DVD. The kids I nanny for liked it - and I have to say it's very watchable as an adult (though I still prefer Toy Story). Nick. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 13:24:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 09:24:00 -0400 Subject: Reading around... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1856 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Reading around... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1855] Re: Reading around... Date: 6/11/00 9:24 am (ET) <The Iron Giant is a poem (I seem to recall) thus why the shorter length. The Warner Cartoon was quite good... I have it on DVD. The kids I nanny for liked it - and I have to say it's very watchable as an adult (though I still prefer Toy Story).> Didn't see the film, but remember the book to be quite good - though I haven't read it for over 10 years. I prefer Bug's Life but Toy Story and its sequeal are good. Simon From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 16:08:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:08:00 -0400 Subject: Reading around... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1857 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Reading around... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1854] Reading around... Date: 6/11/00 12:08 pm (ET) "The Magicians of Caprona" was actually my LEAST favorite of the four Chrestomanci novels by Diana Wynne Jones. All the novels have a different setting and a different "feel" to them, so even if you don't care much for Caprona, try one of the others: Witch Week (very good fun), Lives of Christopher Chant, and Charmed Life. From p_dumbledore at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 16:24:00 2000 From: p_dumbledore at yahoo.com (p_dumbledore at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:24:00 -0400 Subject: New Harry Potter Book will be Banned Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1858 From: p_dumbledore Subject: New Harry Potter Book will be Banned Date: 6/11/00 12:24 pm (ET) Yes.. In a conversation with Professor Trelawney the Divination instructor, she has predicicted that soon after the release of the book. It will be banned from schools and copies of it will be confiscated from students who bring then to school. This will also include a number of offices, businesses and goverment facilities who will politely ask that employees do not bring the book to work. I agree with Ms. Trelawney on this one, it seems that because of the ability of JKR to write a book that is so very difficult to put down, even listening to the tapes, I found myself not wanting to turn them off. That the disruptions caused by students reading in classes, workers who are not working but reading, and the vast array of others that will be reading the book. It seems only reasonable that the book will be banned to prevent the giant loss to education and world wide productivity. I know several people who won't get anything done until the book is read at least twice. I'm sure most all of YOU too !!!!! Prof Dumbledore From christineoswell at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 16:52:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 12:52:00 -0400 Subject: New Harry Potter Book will be Banned Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1859 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: New Harry Potter Book will be Banned Reply To: [Yahoo! #1858] New Harry Potter Book will be Banned Date: 6/11/00 12:52 pm (ET) <It seems only reasonable that the book will be banned to prevent the giant loss to education and world wide productivity.> Loss of education due to reading? Hmmmm.. That sure sounds rational. Besides, school isn't in in July, is it? From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 17:08:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:08:00 -0400 Subject: New Harry Potter Book will be Banned Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1860 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: New Harry Potter Book will be Banned Reply To: [Yahoo! #1859] Re: New Harry Potter Book will be Banned Date: 6/11/00 1:08 pm (ET) <Loss of education due to reading? Hmmmm.. That sure sounds rational. Besides, school isn't in in July, is it?> Schools will still have about 2 weeks left for most of the UK when the book comes out. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 17:11:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 13:11:00 -0400 Subject: New Harry Potter Book will be Banned Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1861 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: New Harry Potter Book will be Banned Reply To: [Yahoo! #1858] New Harry Potter Book will be Banned Date: 6/11/00 1:11 pm (ET) <I know several people who won't get anything done until the book is read at least twice. I'm sure most all of YOU too !!!!!> This is where I am glad that I have a 3 month holiday starting on Wednesday week and my plans are to watch a couple of films at the cinema and read some books. HP4 being one of them. I just wish I could remain a student for the rest of my life! Simon (27 days to go) From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 19:01:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:01:00 -0400 Subject: Reading around... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1862 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Reading around... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1857] Re: Reading around... Date: 6/11/00 3:01 pm (ET) "even if you don't care much for Caprona, try one of the others: Witch Week (very good fun), Lives of Christopher Chant, and Charmed Life." **I wanted to start with "Charmed Life," but they only had the other three. I'll take your advice though. Neil From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 19:02:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:02:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter Chat ?? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1863 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Harry Potter Chat ?? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1851] Re: Harry Potter Chat ?? Date: 6/11/00 3:02 pm (ET) Hi: We previously had a chat-time scheduled for Friday evenings, 9:00 p.m. (EST) - 12:00 a.m. (EST). I was never able to make that time, so I have no idea how many people thought it was convenient. I think we should take a poll about time & day preferences. Sunday might generally be a good day. Friday & Sat evenings are generally bad for me. Weeknights may be not as convenient for people who must get up early for work the next day. So, I guess all that said, I'd vote for a Sunday chat. We should keep our UK members in mind, but 8:00 p.m. (BST) may be a bit early for some of the US crowd (that's noon Pacific time). I don't know -- maybe that's not a bad time. That's 2:00 Central, 3:00 EST -- thoughts? I can't chat today though. Penny From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 19:05:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:05:00 -0400 Subject: New Harry Potter Book will be Banned Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1864 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: New Harry Potter Book will be Banned Reply To: [Yahoo! #1860] Re: New Harry Potter Book will be Banned Date: 6/11/00 3:05 pm (ET) "Schools will still have about 2 weeks left for most of the UK when the book comes out." **Isn't that why they chose to release the book on a Saturday, a non-school day? Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 19:13:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:13:00 -0400 Subject: Ted Hughes... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1865 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Ted Hughes... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1855] Re: Reading around... Date: 6/11/00 3:13 pm (ET) "The Iron Giant is a poem (I seem to recall) thus why the shorter length." **I've noticed that the original book was called "The Iron Man," but that later editions are retitled - another example of Warner Brothers interfering with art! It wasn't a poem - more like a fable - but Ted Hughes was Poet Laureate [essentially, poet to The Queen] until his death in 1998. I've probably heard one of the verses he would have been obliged to write for official Royal occasions, but I don't count that as having read something by him. Sorry, this is straying a bit... Neil From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 19:19:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:19:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter Chat ?? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1866 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Harry Potter Chat ?? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1863] Re: Harry Potter Chat ?? Date: 6/11/00 3:19 pm (ET) Hi all >We previously had a chat-time scheduled for Friday evenings, 9:00 p.m. (EST) - 12:00 a.m. (EST). I was never able to make that time, so I have no idea how many people thought it was convenient. Well... I think 9pm EST is about 2am UK time. So usually around my bedtime! >I think we should take a poll about time & day preferences. Yes... sounds a good idea. >Sunday might generally be a good day. Agreed... being a workaholic as I am, Sunday is the only time I'm ever likely to be around. >We should keep our UK members in mind, but 8:00 p.m. (BST) may be a bit early for some of the US crowd (that's noon Pacific time). Agreed... 8pm BST is probably a bit early for most... however whatever time is selected it won't suit us all, therefore I think it's best to pick a day, and then select some time slots - for example 9-12pm GMT, and 9-12 EST or/and 9-12 PST. >I don't know -- maybe that's not a bad time. That's 2:00 Central, 3:00 EST -- thoughts? It's very hard to know... I guess most of us access the net in the evenings in whichever time zone we are in... thus I think a scheduled chat for each time zone would be better... possibly combining time zones which are close to each other. Nick. From smitster1 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 19:51:00 2000 From: smitster1 at yahoo.com (smitster1 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:51:00 -0400 Subject: Grindelwald (Quidditch called games) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1867 From: smitster1 Subject: Re: Grindelwald (Quidditch called games) Reply To: [Yahoo! #1786] Re: Grindelwald Date: 6/11/00 3:51 pm (ET) Searching for an answer to another post, I came accross an answer for a point raised here. A Quidditch match can go on indefinately. A match only ends with the snitch is caught. Reference the audio clip here (time 0:22:15) http://www.npr.org/xpr_programming/npc/rowling2.html From smitster1 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 19:59:00 2000 From: smitster1 at yahoo.com (smitster1 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 15:59:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as an Animagi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1868 From: smitster1 Subject: Re: Harry as an Animagi Reply To: [Yahoo! #1838] Re: Harry as an Animagi Date: 6/11/00 3:59 pm (ET) Actually, Simon was right about this. I also heard JKR say that Harry will not be trained to become an animagi. But his powers will be concentraited elsewhere. (Cool.) Reference audio clip here (at 0:24:50) http://www.npr.org/xpr_programming/npc/rowling2.html From smitster1 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 20:02:00 2000 From: smitster1 at yahoo.com (smitster1 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 16:02:00 -0400 Subject: Sorry--too vague Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1869 From: smitster1 Subject: Sorry--too vague Date: 6/11/00 4:02 pm (ET) My last too posts, I see, were not specific enough. The audio clips I am referring to were from the "National Press Club." Sorry 'bout that. (Not the NPR reports.) From smitster1 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 20:12:00 2000 From: smitster1 at yahoo.com (smitster1 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 16:12:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1870 From: smitster1 Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1811] Please humour me... Date: 6/11/00 4:12 pm (ET) We've done this before? I must have missed it the first go-around. I first found out about Harry Potter from an NPR report one morning last summer. Not a teacher. Not a witch, but I was born on Halloween which is cool. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 20:58:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 16:58:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as an Animagi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1871 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry as an Animagi Reply To: [Yahoo! #1868] Re: Harry as an Animagi Date: 6/11/00 4:58 pm (ET) <Actually, Simon was right about this. I also heard JKR say that Harry will not be trained to become an animagi. But his powers will be concentraited elsewhere. (Cool.)> But which area is the question? What animal would people be if they were an animagi? Simon PS: I have just realised that it is a little stupid to polish black shoes while weraing a white shirt! Doh! From p_dumbledore at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 22:00:00 2000 From: p_dumbledore at yahoo.com (p_dumbledore at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 18:00:00 -0400 Subject: Chat Schedule ! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1872 From: p_dumbledore Subject: Chat Schedule ! Date: 6/11/00 6:00 pm (ET) I don't know about others, but the 8pm UT/GMT/BST time worked out well. Just needed to get here on time 12pm PST. Look forward to more visits. Dumbledore From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 22:22:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 18:22:00 -0400 Subject: Brain Droppings... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1873 From: jenP_97 Subject: Brain Droppings... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1824] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/11/00 6:22 pm (ET) I would have entered my two cents earlier on a lot of these if my ISP hadn't suddenly gone into a coma that lasted the entire weekend. Anyway, here's my "profile": woman: yes, but I'm not old enough to be called that yet. parent: yes, but not a factor. Virginia turned 15 months yesterday, and although she's a genius (hehe), she can't read yet. teacher: yes, also not a factor. When I finally discovered Harry Potter, I was at my current job teaching for a welfare-to-work program at my local community college. Not a lot of children's books readers in the group I see every day. writer: no, although I do have a small story on fanfiction.net (I'm not telling you what my penname is because it's crap, I tell you!) witch: nope. I was introduced to Harry Potter like so many other adults out there... the Rosie O'Donnell show. Until I heard the books mentioned on her show, I hadn't even known they'd existed - and apparently, I'd waited until the 4th or 5th time she'd talked about them to catch the right show! Then, I was walking though my neighborhood Target and saw CoS sitting on the shelf for $11. I said to myself, "Eleven dollars for a HARDCOVER book??????? Sure!" and I bought it. I'm a big children's lit fan, so I wasn't too worried that I wouldn't like it. Loved it so much I finished it in a few hours, then ordered the other two (PoA had just come out the day before! how's that for timing!) from Amazon.com, then two weeks later, I went to Amazon.co.uk to order my British copies. :) About Hagrid: I think when I first started reading him, I did a (poor) Scottish accent - then I read somewhere that he was supposed to be from Western England, and I stopped that. Of course, even though I'm a linguist and a dialect-lover of all sorts, I can't do a Western English dialect. Darn! I can do a wicked RP, my Austrailian is getting better all the time, and you'd never know I wasn't from the South if you heard me (I had a Southern (US) babysitter from the time I was 6 to when I was 9), but I can't pick out the nuances of the "nonstandard" (I hate that word) accents from the UK. Anyway, sorry for the mishmash, here. I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I'm very excited to get back online. I'd hate to think what would happen if I couldn't have my computer for more than a weekend. Jen From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 22:31:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 18:31:00 -0400 Subject: Interesting question: Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1874 From: jenP_97 Subject: Interesting question: Date: 6/11/00 6:31 pm (ET) While dining out with my husband, I was mentioning that our local bookstore (Judy's) has a huge cardboard castle up with "Hogwarts" over the doorway and a sign that says, "Harry Potter's coming on July 8th! Reserve your copy inside!" in their window. My husband wasn't very interested. So I said, "You just don't understand how much I'm looking forward to reading this book, do you?" and he said, "No, but tell me in terms I'd understand." So I proceeded to tell him that I'm as excited about HP4 as he would be if: A new microbrewery showed up in Porterville (our town) overnight and had a "free pint of each beer" weekend... And then Phish showed up for a live concert... And then the original Yes (gawd, there is so much Yes in our cd collection I could puke) showed up to do another free concert and hand out their new cd... And then at the end, the owners of the brewery came out and said, "Thanks for coming! You all get a new car!" and handed us the keys. So. Needless to say, he was impressed. Then he asked me a funny question that I'd like to ask all of you: "Let's say you had a choice: either accept a new car (value: $50k) and vow NEVER to read the 4th HP book (didn't say anything about the rest), or give it all up and read it... which would you choose?" I said, "I'd read it, duh!" But he didn't believe me. After all, the other half of my conversation tends to revolve around not having enough money to pay our bills. And I was wondering if any other adults would give up such a large sum (or larger!) of money that they could use to pay for college for their kids and other things just to read a kids book... so.... would you? Jen From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 11 23:26:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 19:26:00 -0400 Subject: Interesting question: Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1875 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Interesting question: Reply To: [Yahoo! #1874] Interesting question: Date: 6/11/00 7:26 pm (ET) Yes, I would rather read the book than have the car! I am absolutely serious. The book will open up a whole new section of the universe in my brain. The car would just cost a lot of money for insurance, license plates, maintenance, and would end up breaking down anyway (LOL!). Danemead From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 00:32:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 20:32:00 -0400 Subject: Brain Droppings... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1876 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Brain Droppings... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1873] Brain Droppings... Date: 6/11/00 8:32 pm (ET) >About Hagrid: I think when I first started >reading him, I did a (poor) Scottish accent - then >I read somewhere that he was supposed to be from >Western England, and I stopped that. >Of course, even though I'm a linguist I like the accent Jim Dale gives him -- What is that, Yorkshire? What sort of accent to you read the Weasleys with? For some reason I give them Liverpuldian (sp?) accents. ( I guess I see them as the sort of people you'd find in a Wily Russell play. :) ) >I'm very excited to get back online. I'd hate to think what would happen if >I couldn't have my computer for more than a weekend. Last year a Norwegian Ridgeback sneezed on my system and I was without it for a *month* while they replaced the toasted motherboard. I was ready for treatment by Madam Pomfrey, such was the state of sanity when I finally got it back. From estesrandy at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 02:06:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:06:00 -0400 Subject: Book One Anagrams Test Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1877 From: estesrandy Subject: Book One Anagrams Test Date: 6/11/00 10:06 pm (ET) I have taken the torch that was passed to me by the last quiz master, and I have done my best to create difficult and extremely silly sounding anagrams using the first book for all of my creations. Number 2 sounds a bit risque but this is an adult message board, and the answer is not really dangerous ! Book One Anagrams: 1. Rent Her Hardy Teapot's Corner Stores 2. Porn Requires Bar Sluts - ROFL 3. Wealthy Sweet Sin 4. Queen Mothers Partner in Lard Fat 5. Little Boy needs a shovel 6. Gracey Elbo Band 7. See Mrs. Potato Thin 8. Etch Color of Gas 9. Brave Boys Battle is Net Forever 10. What if Cement was Hot Good Luck to all of those who test their skills !! From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 02:37:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:37:00 -0400 Subject: Brain Droppings... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1878 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Brain Droppings... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1876] Re: Brain Droppings... Date: 6/11/00 10:37 pm (ET) Hah! I tend to give the Weasleys a touch of cockney - to make them more "lower class" (wealth wise, that is - not personality wise). However, I was reading somewhere that a lot of people think that they reside somewhere near Exeter - being as there is a "Chudleigh" and an "Ottery St. Marie" near there that J.K. could have gotten "Chudley" and "Ottery St. Catchpole" from. I don't know about accents in specific parts of England, so I'm not sure if my (likewise poor) cockney would work for that location. ;) Jen From estesrandy at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 02:58:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 22:58:00 -0400 Subject: Visions of Music Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1879 From: estesrandy Subject: Visions of Music Date: 6/11/00 10:58 pm (ET) I was listening to an oldies station on the radio yesterday and some strange thoughts came into my head. Sort of like that song on Sgt. Peppers - I'm fixing a hole where the rain gets in and stops my mind from wandering... Anyway, I had some visions in my head when the music was playing and trying to place the music in a Harry Potter movie. I guess it's my own version of the movie sound track. I thought the movie could begin and end with the Cat Stevens Song " Oh Very Young what will you leave us this time..." Another thought came when they played the Beatles song called "The End" from Abbey Road. During the song Paul, George, and John start playing different leads on each of their guitars (sort of like a contest). The guitar leads create musical tension which represents conflict. There is a crescendo and the song ends with a nice melody which represents resolution of the conflict. The music reminds me of the Harry Potter encounters with evil at the end of each book and the resolution of the conflict fits the song I just described. The movie could have a close up of Hermione at some point and have "Witchy Woman" by the Eagles playing in the background. A seen with Mrs. Weasley at their house could have "Lady Madonna" playing in the background. Hagrid comes riding in on the motorcycle to "Born to Be Wild" by Steppenwolf. Lord Voldemort gets zapped to "I can't get no Satisfaction" by the Rolling Stones. Ron Weasley and Harry are talking on the train to the tune of James Taylor's " You've got a Friend". I think that was actually written by Carole King. The Quidditch match in Book Three could end to the tune of "We are the Champions" by Queen. I could go on forever.. Anyway, Does anybody else hear songs that would fit the movie? From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 03:31:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:31:00 -0400 Subject: Interesting question: Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1880 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Interesting question: Reply To: [Yahoo! #1874] Interesting question: Date: 6/11/00 11:31 pm (ET) "Let's say you had a choice: either accept a new car (value: $50k) and vow NEVER to read the 4th HP book (didn't say anything about the rest), or give it all up and read it... which would you choose?" ** I'd take the book! Okay, I could sell the car and spend the money, but it would just be too difficult to avoid reading the book. Note: I haven't driven for 18 years, I don't have a parking space outside my flat, and I'm anti-car for environmental reasons. My bookshelf has a space, waiting... Neil From p_dumbledore at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 03:39:00 2000 From: p_dumbledore at yahoo.com (p_dumbledore at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:39:00 -0400 Subject: Interesting question: Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1881 From: p_dumbledore Subject: Re: Interesting question: Reply To: [Yahoo! #1880] Re: Interesting question: Date: 6/11/00 11:39 pm (ET) I'll take the Car..... Provided it has a tape player so I can "LISTEN" to the book.. You did say not read the book.. Sorry.. couldn't pass it up.. Actually in either case, would probably go for the book.. Dumbledore From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 03:44:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 23:44:00 -0400 Subject: Accents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1882 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Accents Date: 6/11/00 11:44 pm (ET) I think Hagrid is the only one who has a regional accent in my head, because of the way he's written. It is sort of 'Cockney/West Country' -oriented. I usually think of Long John Silver, the pirate speaking really loudly? "Har, Har, Me Hearties!!!" "Ooo-Ar, Jim Lad!"... that type of thing. I can imagine Jim Dale doing something like that... The Weasleys, a bit like Hagrid, are from a non-Muggle environment, so I give them nondescript, downmarket accents - possibly West Country/Welsh, though. The Dursleys are dead common - nouveau riche, I'd say: Londoners who moved to Surrey and try to behave like suburban snobs... Hermione is posh, middle-class (with a name like that, she's not going to have a Brum accent - that's from Birmingham for those scratching their heads) Snape could be Scottish - a very cultured, Edinburgh would suit him. Neil From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 06:23:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 02:23:00 -0400 Subject: Interesting question: Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1883 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Interesting question: Reply To: [Yahoo! #1874] Interesting question: Date: 6/12/00 2:23 am (ET) <"Let's say you had a choice: either accept a new car (value: $50k) and vow NEVER to read the 4th HP book (didn't say anything about the rest), or give it all up and read it... which would you choose?"> How could anyone possibly choose money over Harry Potter??????????? Money is green paper with pictures of dead presidents on it; Harry Potter books make life worth living. (OK, maybe I am exaggerating, but just a little.) From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 07:13:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 03:13:00 -0400 Subject: Accents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1884 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Accents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1882] Accents Date: 6/12/00 3:13 am (ET) <The Weasleys, a bit like Hagrid, are from a non-Muggle environment, so I give them nondescript, downmarket accents - possibly West Country/Welsh, though. The Dursleys are dead common - nouveau riche, I'd say: Londoners who moved to Surrey and try to behave like suburban snobs... Hermione is posh, middle-class (with a name like that, she's not going to have a Brum accent - that's from Birmingham for those scratching their heads)> Hermione from middle england - Oxfordshire, Berkshire type of place, or maybe anywhere else but living out in a posh part of a large town. Weasleys - from near a large industrial city such as Manchester was my thought but then not mixing with the locals much nd so noy picking up much of an accent. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 07:19:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 03:19:00 -0400 Subject: Book One Anagrams Test Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1885 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Book One Anagrams Test Reply To: [Yahoo! #1877] Book One Anagrams Test Date: 6/12/00 3:19 am (ET) Not good timing! I don't have time to look at these for at least today (exams and football in the way). Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 09:35:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 05:35:00 -0400 Subject: Book One Anagrams Test Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1886 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Book One Anagrams Test Reply To: [Yahoo! #1885] Re: Book One Anagrams Test Date: 6/12/00 5:35 am (ET) Quick everyone... we have a chance to have a go before Simon gets them all right! :) Neil PS - actually, they look really hard. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 11:47:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:47:00 -0400 Subject: NEW PICTURES - Kings Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1887 From: babynick34 Subject: NEW PICTURES - Kings Cross Date: 6/12/00 7:47 am (ET) Hi all I've added a new album for pictures from King's Cross and other stations / things to do with trains, from the books. There is no work to be seen going on at the moment at Kings Cross with regard to a tempoary platform 9&3/4. No one at the station seemed to know anything... either they knew or would not say... or they honestly didn't know. WHSMITH (the bookshop at the station) did not know anything, and would not accept pre-orders for the book - said I would have to go to one of their main branches. Nick. From elizabeth0o0o at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 11:51:00 2000 From: elizabeth0o0o at yahoo.com (elizabeth0o0o at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 07:51:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1888 From: Elizabeth0o0o Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1607] Re: Harry's Parents Date: 6/12/00 7:51 am (ET) wouldnot harry figure out that the woman in the mirror didnot look like the pictures of lilly and james ha got from hagred From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 12:07:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:07:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1889 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1888] Re: Harry's Parents Date: 6/12/00 8:07 am (ET) Yes, someone else pointed that out... I like to come up with ridiculous theories now and then, so I can have them shot down in flames! Neil From elizabeth0o0o at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 12:22:00 2000 From: elizabeth0o0o at yahoo.com (elizabeth0o0o at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 08:22:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Parents Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1890 From: Elizabeth0o0o Subject: Re: Harry's Parents Reply To: [Yahoo! #1889] Re: Harry's Parents Date: 6/12/00 8:22 am (ET) no dont say that i love the theary i also love the one aboult the eyes From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 13:02:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:02:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1891 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1835] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/12/00 9:02 am (ET) Okay then. I posted an "essay" quite a while back, so I'll just hit the high points this time: I've always enjoyed kids' books; noticed the NY Times bestsellers list; was curious about a kids' book that could generate such interest; bought the first in paperback; finished it that night; went back to the store and bought the others immediately. And in answer to my "type": female - yes parent - no teacher - no, but should be witch - sometimes I think so (I get a twinkle every now and then) refered by another fan - no On to another topic (my computer at home is dead, so I'm back at work trying to recall all of our recent posts): I get the feeling that Hagrid's dialect is something unique and all his own. And though the Weasley's are definitely British, I always hear Mrs. Weasley, especially during the howler scene, as very Irish. From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 13:35:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 09:35:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1892 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1891] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/12/00 9:35 am (ET) Hi! My turn to answer! I hadn't really heard anything about HP at first. Then this girl I know, who is definitely a sillybutt but who has good taste in books, recommended them to me. (She also hears 2000 voices in her head, but that's a topic for another post.) I bopped into Barnes and Noble on my lunch hour and wound up flipping through one of the books - I honestly don't remember which one it was, I just know that it wasn't the first. Of course, it made no sense to me. But I'd mentioned to my family that I was curious about them, and my twin brother wound up getting me all three books for Christmas. I became hooked right away - I love beginnings and origin stories and stuff, so Sorcerer's Stone sucked me in immediately. Oh, by the way - I just started reading that Paradigm of Uncertainty fan fiction stuff, and it's spectacular. I highly recommend it. Smoooches, Darwin (male, not a parent, not a teacher but my twin brother is, giggles at the idea of witchcraft in real life but DOES like a good magic trick, referred to HP by a sillybutt.) From estesrandy at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 14:27:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 10:27:00 -0400 Subject: Book One Anagrams Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1893 From: estesrandy Subject: Book One Anagrams Date: 6/12/00 10:27 am (ET) Oops ! I forgot to mention that the answers to the Book One Anagrams should be emailed to me at estesrandy at yahoo.com which many of you already know. If these are too hard, let me know and I will give out some hints. By the way, my wife is not allowed to win this particular puzzle. She is disqualified because she heard me mumbling phrases on Sunday and laughing hysterically especially about number 2. First Hint: Most of the anagrams are phrases and not just people's names, but they may contain people's names. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 16:57:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 12:57:00 -0400 Subject: Book One Anagrams Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1894 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Book One Anagrams Reply To: [Yahoo! #1893] Book One Anagrams Date: 6/12/00 12:57 pm (ET) *sigh* I'm terrible at anagrams... I have an activity in mind, though, so if the person who wins doesn't want to do one, I'll gladly take the next turn! If not, that's perfectly all right, I'll just try to win the next (and hopefully easier) activity! :) -- JoAnna From elizabeth0o0o at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 18:05:00 2000 From: elizabeth0o0o at yahoo.com (elizabeth0o0o at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 14:05:00 -0400 Subject: Brain Droppings... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1895 From: Elizabeth0o0o Subject: Re: Brain Droppings... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1873] Brain Droppings... Date: 6/12/00 2:05 pm (ET) woman---- yes teacher---- no not for pay hehehe parent ---- yes but seeing that they are still in diapors i dont think that is an issue writer----no i bought the harry potter book because it was on an end cap so i bought the papper back. this was in oct or nov of 1999 i read the first page and put it down thinking it was stupid the nekt week i saw it on the table and read it in that night i did not sleep that night the next morning i bought the hard cover of all three:-) From pt4ever at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 20:04:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:04:00 -0400 Subject: Basilisk Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1896 From: pt4ever Subject: Basilisk Date: 6/12/00 4:04 pm (ET) I finally scanned and posted the picture of a basilisk that I got from the book "Signs and Symbols in Christian Art" by George Ferguson. Sorry it's so blurry -- I don't have a very good scanner. :) -- JoAnna From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 20:40:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:40:00 -0400 Subject: Weasley accents... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1897 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Weasley accents... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1891] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/12/00 4:40 pm (ET) "I always hear Mrs. Weasley, especially during the howler scene, as very Irish." Yes, that works... it's the red hair that gives them a sort of Irish leaning, perhaps...? Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 20:47:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 16:47:00 -0400 Subject: King's Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1898 From: Danemead Subject: King's Cross Date: 6/12/00 4:47 pm (ET) Neil (or do I call you Mr. Anglia?) - just had a peek at the King's Cross photos you uploaded. Thanks! Doesn't look anything like what I imagined, but I've only seen train stations in movies, never in real life. Actually it looks rather scary place to be, if there was a large crowd of fans pushing and shoving. I hope they have good crowd control on Harry Potter Day! From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 21:03:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:03:00 -0400 Subject: I didn't say... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1899 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: I didn't say... Date: 6/12/00 5:03 pm (ET) Ahem. Maybe I should answer my own questions, just for the record. I'm not a woman, parent or teacher. I'm not a writer by profession (although I have written things) and I'm not a witch (a bitch, maybe), but I was given the first HP by a friend, to whom I am eternally grateful. My reactions I've already noted, and they were much the same as for everyone else. How apt is the phrase, "once I'd picked it up, I couldn't put it down"? I'm a fan of Scottish author Iain Banks, expecially the 'Culture' stuff (as Iain M Banks) and I was recently grabbed big time by Patrick S'skind's "Perfume" - a sick, strange, but very engaging book. Neil PS - Thanks to all those of you who have responded to my original request. It's nice to know a bit more about you all (um, some of those profiles are a bit thin!). Hey, I'm glad to be here!! From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 21:06:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:06:00 -0400 Subject: King's Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1900 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: King's Cross Reply To: [Yahoo! #1898] King's Cross Date: 6/12/00 5:06 pm (ET) Actually, it was young Nick who loaded the pics - he's much more on the case than I am! You can call me Neil, although my parents, Mr and Mrs Ford-Anglia still insist on calling me 'Flying' :) From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 21:18:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 17:18:00 -0400 Subject: King's Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1901 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: King's Cross Reply To: [Yahoo! #1900] Re: King's Cross Date: 6/12/00 5:18 pm (ET) Good pictures, Nick! Not that I need to see them, of course, as I live in London. I can just see me squeezing my bulky frame between those two ticket machines and escaping to Hogwarts. Perhaps I'll try that on the 8th. We could meet outside the entrance to platforms 9-11 - seems as good a place as any. Neil PS Did anyone expect it to look less 'modern'? I still picture HP set somewhere between the 1940s and 1960s, so I tend to visualise King's Cross in a completely different period (it doesn't help, knowing exactly what it really looks like!) From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 22:28:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 18:28:00 -0400 Subject: King's Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1902 From: Danemead Subject: Re: King's Cross Reply To: [Yahoo! #1900] Re: King's Cross Date: 6/12/00 6:28 pm (ET) Whoops! Thank you NICK! Brain must still be in necromimetic stasis from the weekend.... I definitely pictured the station as being more old-fashioned, but again I think that was the movie influence. The only train ride I ever took was at Disneyland. I always envied all the train-traveling in British mysteries! From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Mon Jun 12 23:59:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 19:59:00 -0400 Subject: King's Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1903 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: King's Cross Reply To: [Yahoo! #1902] Re: King's Cross Date: 6/12/00 7:59 pm (ET) Where are these pictures?? From Danemead at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 00:51:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 20:51:00 -0400 Subject: King's Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1904 From: Danemead Subject: Re: King's Cross Reply To: [Yahoo! #1903] Re: King's Cross Date: 6/12/00 8:51 pm (ET) The list on the left side of the screen, click on Photos. From p_dumbledore at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 01:30:00 2000 From: p_dumbledore at yahoo.com (p_dumbledore at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 21:30:00 -0400 Subject: If I run really fast - I might fit Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1905 From: p_dumbledore Subject: If I run really fast - I might fit Date: 6/12/00 9:30 pm (ET) Yes, Thanks for the photos' Nick.. Changed a little since my last visit to Kings Cross about 10 years ago. But I think If I run real fast I might fit between the two automatic ticket machines and find Gate 9-3/4. Right! I can just see the Weaslys' comming down the platform now.. all that red hair just blowing in the wind. Prof Dumbledore From b_drey at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 02:58:00 2000 From: b_drey at yahoo.com (b_drey at yahoo.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jun 2000 22:58:00 -0400 Subject: Crises of Faith Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1906 From: b_drey Subject: re: Crises of Faith Reply To: [Yahoo! #1774] Re: I could just scream! Date: 6/12/00 10:58 pm (ET) I like to do my share, Penny, against the unreasonable (leaving myself very open with that remark!!). Barbara From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 08:42:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 04:42:00 -0400 Subject: Book One Anagrams Test Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1907 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Book One Anagrams Test Reply To: [Yahoo! #1886] Re: Book One Anagrams Test Date: 6/13/00 4:42 am (ET) <Quick everyone... we have a chance to have a go before Simon gets them all right! :) Neil PS - actually, they look really hard. > I have made a start on them. So far I have only been able to do 4 of them! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 10:09:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 06:09:00 -0400 Subject: Thanks Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1908 From: hert0661 Subject: Thanks Date: 6/13/00 6:09 am (ET) I would just like to say thank you to all those that were on the onlint chat on Sunday. I had spent most of Sunday getting very stressed about my exams and to be able to spend an hour in the evening relaxing and thinking about something completely different was very beneficial. So thank you to all that were there (I would try and list you all but would be bound to forget some). Simon PS: Sorry about this not being at all on topic. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 13:24:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 09:24:00 -0400 Subject: Book One Anagrams Test Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1909 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Book One Anagrams Test Reply To: [Yahoo! #1907] Re: Book One Anagrams Test Date: 6/13/00 9:24 am (ET) "I have made a start on them. So far I have only been able to do 4 of them!" I've done 3 and half (well, 3)! I'm assuming we're not supposed to look at the book while we're doing these? Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 15:17:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 11:17:00 -0400 Subject: Latest news....? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1910 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Latest news....? Date: 6/13/00 11:17 am (ET) The news item below suggests that the HP film is due for release in Nov 2001. Mind you, it also reckons Book 4 is called HP and The Doomspell Tournament! Is that debate open again? Neil http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/bpihw/20000611/en/_harry_potter_meeting_the_licensi ng_sorcerers_1.html From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 16:52:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:52:00 -0400 Subject: Book One Anagrams Test Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1911 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Book One Anagrams Test Reply To: [Yahoo! #1909] Re: Book One Anagrams Test Date: 6/13/00 12:52 pm (ET) <"I have made a start on them. So far I have only been able to do 4 of them!" I've done 3 and half (well, 3)! I'm assuming we're not supposed to look at the book while we're doing these?> Up to 6 now but have had to use the book to check a couple of spellings. Also realised that American spelling were being used (as the quiz setter is American this is to be expected). Simon From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 16:54:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 12:54:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1912 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1811] Please humour me... Date: 6/13/00 12:54 pm (ET) Hi, New to the list and had to answer this... Not a woman, Not a parent or teacher, Writer, not really, Witch or wizard as you prefer... (Hogwart's, class of '84) Heard about HP for a while, then read an article on CNN and how witches liked the book, so I read Sorcerer's Stone and Chamber of Secrets, picking up Prisoner this week... From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 17:50:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 13:50:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1913 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1912] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/13/00 1:50 pm (ET) I am female. I am not a parent, but was once a teacher. Changed careers because I did not want to be poor. I am a writer! And yeah, I am a witch. These books had me hooked from the first page-- I read them all in a three day swoop, and I continue to pick them up when I need an escape. Ta da! --Suzanne From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 19:17:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:17:00 -0400 Subject: LA Times 6/12 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1914 From: sarvalsha Subject: LA Times 6/12 Date: 6/13/00 3:17 pm (ET) I was reading the LA Times last night and who should be the lead story in the Living section? Harry! The story is called Secrecy Casts a Magic Spell Over the Latest Harry Potter. I skipped most of it because I am one of those who doesn't want to know anything about the book until I've read it. It did say that book 4 and book 7 will be the longest ones. There is also another story with a photo of our heroine about what special things local bookstores are planning for July 8th. And another with some silly ideas for book 5 like 'When Harry Potter Met Sally', 'Muggles are from Mars, Witches are from Venus', etc. Also a couple of other articles about books to read until the 8th. If anyone wants to check them out, you can see them on www.latimes.com. Just search on Harry Potter. Margaret From christineoswell at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 19:18:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 15:18:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1915 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1913] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/13/00 3:18 pm (ET) Female - yes Parent - yes (both still in diapers though) Writer - no Witch - no (though I have been accused of it, and I own and have read a handful of books on Wicca) I had heard about HP in passing on Rosie, but didn't know anything about him. My sister had heard about the books, and knowing that I like anything to do with castles/wizards/magic, she bought the Philosopher's Stone for me for Christmas, and I've been hooked since. And from an earlier question, about preferences for chats or message boards, I'm an introvert, but I have to say that I tend to like chats more. It is amazing what having kids will do to your memory and brain power! Composing a long message is overwhelming some days, and I find that I tend to ramble. I don't like chatting with a lot of people that I don't know, but if it is a small group of people I'm familiar with, it's alright. I like that chatting is more personal and conversations can flow naturally, rather than being pre-thought. Christine From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 20:02:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:02:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1916 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1811] Please humour me... Date: 6/13/00 4:02 pm (ET) Sorry I'm so late responding to this, and thank you for asking. Here are my brief stats: Woman: yes Parent: no Teacher: no Writer: yes (of YA romance, though my own writing's suffered greatly since I found HP) Witch: no Introduced by other fan: yes and no I first heard of the books through my on-line writing group. But I didn't pay much attention to the discussion at the time. So little, in fact, that I thought at first they were talking about Beatrix Potter (the author of Peter Rabbit)! A couple months later, last November, I saw the books in a local bookstore (what a concept! <G>). I thought they might be a good Christmas present for my then 11-year-old niece, Robin. So I went to the clerk to ask what age group it was for (to make sure *Robin* wouldn't find it too young). The clerk assured me that plenty of adults also enjoyed the series. When Robin and her family came out for Thanksgiving, I found out she was already a fan, but hadn't been able to get her hands on PoA. I bought it for her early so she could read it on the train back home. Throughout all this, I became, in the words of Lewis Carroll, "curiouser and curiouser" about the series. I bought SS for myself in early December. I planned to wait two weeks for my next paycheck, then buy CoS, then PoA two weeks after that. Well, as I'm sure most of you can guess, it didn't work out that way. Despite the flu, I finished SS in one night. The next day, I staggered to the bookstore and bought the other two. Let's just say I didn't get the rest I needed to recuperate! I finished all three in (I believe) four days! Well, enough of my rambling. For those still reading, thank you for your patience. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 20:15:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:15:00 -0400 Subject: LA Times 6/12 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1917 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: LA Times 6/12 Reply To: [Yahoo! #1914] LA Times 6/12 Date: 6/13/00 4:15 pm (ET) Margaret thanks... Nice to be kept informed of any media coverage. I like some of those titles the LA Times came up with, especially this one: "Harry Potter and the Phantom Menace." Harry learns that his father is Darth Vader. For those in the US who want to know which bookstores are opening Midnight... the LA Times has a list. I can post it if you like, but you should find it at: http://www.latimes.com/living/20000611/t000055566.html Nick. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 20:19:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:19:00 -0400 Subject: Please humour me... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1918 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Please humour me... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1915] Re: Please humour me... Date: 6/13/00 4:19 pm (ET) *WARNING* OFF TOPIC POST Christine wrote: >Parent - yes (both still in diapers though) Christine that's the best age... kids are far easier when they are little. Treasure those moments, as before you know it, they will be ready for college! Nick the Nanny. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 20:23:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:23:00 -0400 Subject: Book Ages Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1919 From: babynick34 Subject: Book Ages Date: 6/13/00 4:23 pm (ET) In the June 11, 2000 LA Times Children's best seller list that have two of HP Books. However, they seem to think that the books are only suitable for children aged 9-12. I think it's much more and 8-98 kinda thing. ---------------- HARRY POTTER AND THE SORCERER'S STONE by J.K. Rowling (Arthur A. Levine: $5.99 paper) Unhappy at home, a young boy discovers that he is a magician with great powers. (Ages 9-12) ---------------- HARRY POTTER AND THE PRISONER OF AZKABAN by J.K. Rowling (Scholastic: $19.95) Sirius Black, an escaped convict, is on the loose, and he's after Harry. (Ages 9-12) ---------------- What do you think... should books have age classifications? Nick. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 20:29:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:29:00 -0400 Subject: Year 1 Roll Call Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1920 From: babynick34 Subject: Year 1 Roll Call Date: 6/13/00 4:29 pm (ET) Hi all... so a question... who are the first years? Here is my list so far... please feel free to add to this list, or amend anything I may have wrong. Nick. ---------------- Format: Surname, Firstname, House Abbot, Hannah, H Bones, Susan, H Boot, Terry, R Brocklehurst, Mandy, R Brown, Lavender, G Bulstrode, Millicent, S Finch-Fletchley, Justin, H Finnigan, Seamus, G Granger, Hermione, G Longbottom, Neville, G MacDougal, Morag, ? Malfoy, Draco, S Moon, ? , ? Nott, ? , ? Parkinson, Pansy, S Patil, Parvati, G Patil, ?, ? Perks, Sally-Anne, ? Potter, Harry, G Thomas, Dean, ? Turpin, Lisa, R Weasley, Ron, G Zabini, Blaise, S Then there is Crabbe and Goyle... both in S. But is Crabbe and Goyle their surname's or firstnames? Can you help fill any of the blanks (?) Thanks... Nick. From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 20:52:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 16:52:00 -0400 Subject: Year 1 Roll Call Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1921 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Re: Year 1 Roll Call Reply To: [Yahoo! #1920] Year 1 Roll Call Date: 6/13/00 4:52 pm (ET) <Then there is Crabbe and Goyle... both in S. But is Crabbe and Goyle their surname's or firstnames?> I have pretty much the same thing, but I can answer the Crabbe/Goyle question (also using the last name, first name, house format): Crabbe, Vincent, S Goyle, Gregory, S From davehoz at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 21:24:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:24:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Noir? (was: LA Times 6/12) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1922 From: davehoz Subject: Harry Noir? (was: LA Times 6/12) Reply To: [Yahoo! #1917] Re: LA Times 6/12 Date: 6/13/00 5:24 pm (ET) I must admit I'm a bit concerned about the article's assertions that the books will grow ever darker. If this next book is pretty scary/somber as advertised, then I wish Book 5 would act as a bit of light, upbeat relief. Baum's Oz books always alternated between darker and more humorous storylines and I think that was wise of him. If the style of the Harry Potter series follows an uninterrupted linear trend toward dark, downbeat storylines, I think it will only destroy all the progress the series has made in offering quality literature to children and adults alike. I threw _Jo's Boys_ and _Mostly Harmless_ across the room in disgust because they were such somber, depressing conclusions to their respective series... I hope I won't be doing the same with Harry Potter VII. From Danemead at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 21:37:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:37:00 -0400 Subject: Tantalizing Remark Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1923 From: Danemead Subject: Tantalizing Remark Date: 6/13/00 5:37 pm (ET) In the LA Times article, they quote Rowling : "There is something in 'Sorcerer's Stone' [the first book] that is absolutely crucial to the ending of book four. People will remember it," she said, declining to be more specific. AAAAGGGGHHHHHH!! One tiny maddening little statement and I'm gonna be awake all night, wondering. From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 21:58:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:58:00 -0400 Subject: Book Ages Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1924 From: sarvalsha Subject: Re: Book Ages Reply To: [Yahoo! #1919] Book Ages Date: 6/13/00 5:58 pm (ET) Until recently the HP books were listed on the regular LA Times bestseller list. I had heard of other publications getting objections from publishers and authors that the books should only appear on the children's bestseller lists. I guess maybe the Times gave in to similar pressure. I don't normally read the book section except to check the lists for HP and didn't see any notification of why the books were removed from the regular list. Perhaps we should inquire why. Personally I don't think the projected age of the readers should influence what list a book gets on. Obviously HP is not selling strictly to 9-12 year olds. And if they are selling enough to get on the regular bestseller list they should be listed there. The NY Times BTW still lists the HP books on the regular list where they belong. Margaret From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 21:59:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 17:59:00 -0400 Subject: Year 1 Roll Call Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1925 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Year 1 Roll Call Reply To: [Yahoo! #1920] Year 1 Roll Call Date: 6/13/00 5:59 pm (ET) Dean Thomas is in Gryffindor. MacMillan, Ernie H Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 22:25:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:25:00 -0400 Subject: Book Ages Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1926 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Book Ages Reply To: [Yahoo! #1919] Book Ages Date: 6/13/00 6:25 pm (ET) Hmmm. An age range of 9-12 does seem a bit narrow in general, but perhaps it isn't in the context of a pre-adult market, where reading skills are still developing. In the UK, at least, they market the HP books separately to adults, with grown-up covers. I, for one, have no qualms about reading 'children's' literature in front of other grown-ups, so I don't really understand that move. I'd assumed, because of the marketing, that JK Rowling set out to write for older children, but perhaps she didn't have a specific age group in mind. Has she said? Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 22:34:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 18:34:00 -0400 Subject: A book is a book is a book Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1927 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: A book is a book is a book Reply To: [Yahoo! #1924] Re: Book Ages Date: 6/13/00 6:34 pm (ET) Boo to the LA Times... Surely bestsellers are those books which sell in the highest numbers? Okay, have separate lists for children's books, fiction, non-fiction, cookery, quiltmaking, modern, ancient, whatever... but the main list should include all of them! Neil From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Jun 13 23:32:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 19:32:00 -0400 Subject: Bestseller v Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1928 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Bestseller v Reply To: [Yahoo! #1924] Re: Book Ages Date: 6/13/00 7:32 pm (ET) Hi: <Until recently the HP books were listed on the regular LA Times bestseller list. I had heard of other publications getting objections from publishers and authors that the books should only appear on the children's bestseller lists.> I personally think it's preposterous for the HP books to be removed from any of the official bestseller lists (especially the NY Times!!!), on the grounds that they are children's books. I have heard rumor that the NY Times Bestseller List will cave to publisher pressure in this regard in the near future, and I think it's an outrage. The performance of the HP titles on the NY Times list was what drew me to the HP books in the first place, so perhaps that's why this is such a sore spot with me. It's also quite clear to me that 30 million copies++ aren't sold solely to the 9-12 set. I read somewhere that a bestselling children's book is regarded as anything that sells 300,000 copies. The HP books have outstripped that measure by such a margin that it's just nuts to say that they should be relegated to a "children's bestseller list." The first print run of HP #4 (whatever the title is!) is projected to be the largest in publishing history (not just children's books history). Grisham's largest 1st print run so far was less than 2.5 million I believe. I say we all write letters to the NY Times . . .!!!!! As for HP marketing in the UK, I feel compelled to comment that I was very disappointed on my recent visit to the UK. I made a point to go in several bookstores around England & Scotland while we were there -- in most cases, I couldn't even find the HP books. I did find the adult cover versions in pb at Harrod's. But, Harrod's children's book section had no HP books at all (let alone a large display). I think I was expecting more somehow. At least here in the US, you can't walk into a bookstore without tripping over a pile of HP books. I've been buying sets of them for gifts at Sam's (a wholesale club), and the cashier told me last week that they get a shipment of HP books *every day*! Wow! Penny From norevoli at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 00:39:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:39:00 -0400 Subject: Book Binges Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1929 From: norevoli Subject: Book Binges Date: 6/13/00 8:39 pm (ET) lala...(that would be me prancing in) Its been a long 400 messages since I've been here last. So please forgive for repeating anything... I know I've already said this but as far as Gilderoy lockhart goes, Cary Elwes is still my number one choice,(Robin Hood Men in Tights, Princess Bride) Now this CoF thing.. Cof? cof? hmmm..I can't think of anything... although the crisis of faith thing was a good guess...h well, I think I'll wait until 4 comes out... I can wait... I think...' Next thing... i know it is already less than a month til the masterpiece comes out but I'm on a very very big book binge. Any suggestions? I've already explored the realms of Fanfic-dom but I was wondering about other authors you would suggest... Just incase there are other book bingers out there, I would definately suggest Terry Brooks Knight of the Word trilogy... absolutely amazing (and i'm only on the second book...must get that thrid book soon)Fr anyone who wants to pick it up the first book is called Running with the Demon, then Knight of the Word, then Angle Fire East. But PLEASE... I need to read SOMETHING until this book comeout...HELP! norevoli (prance out) From norevoli at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 00:48:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 20:48:00 -0400 Subject: Rootbeer Racinette-Hagrid Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1930 From: norevoli Subject: Rootbeer Racinette-Hagrid Date: 6/13/00 8:48 pm (ET) Oh ... one more thing I have to mention... On my book binge, I came across a book by Canadian Author Gordan Korman. Upon reading his book "Losing Joe's Place" I came across a character that really really resembles Hagrid in the "too big to be allowed way" This character's name is Rootbeer Racinette (Racinette being rootbeer in french...rootbeer rootbeer, get it?) And he is always trying to find hobbies to help him escape from 'executive burnout', going from blowing the guiness book of world records biggest bubble gum bubble to playing the harp. He's got the same sort of naive air about him that Hagrid can have (Hagrid being naive when it comes to his exotic "pets" being poor unfortunate cute things.. you know what i mean) But for the most part Root beer is alittle more naive about himself than Hagrid I think what really made me pin the two together was the fact that they are so comfortable with themselves. They're comfortable with their largeness, and seemingly naive about how strange they are. has anyone else read this book? norevoli From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 01:23:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:23:00 -0400 Subject: Silly question: What are chipolatas? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1931 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Silly question: What are chipolatas? Date: 6/13/00 9:23 pm (ET) I suspect this is some kind of British dish? I have never heard of them, but they seem to be a favorite of Hogwarts students.... Thanks! From christineoswell at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 01:27:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 21:27:00 -0400 Subject: Rootbeer Racinette-Hagrid Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1932 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: Rootbeer Racinette-Hagrid Reply To: [Yahoo! #1930] Rootbeer Racinette-Hagrid Date: 6/13/00 9:27 pm (ET) At one point in life, I had read EVERY Gordon Korman book. But I haven't read any now for over 10 years. I really enjoyed his books, I guess I'll have to go out and get that one now! Christine From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 03:40:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2000 23:40:00 -0400 Subject: Rootbeer Racinette-Hagrid Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1933 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: Rootbeer Racinette-Hagrid Reply To: [Yahoo! #1932] Re: Rootbeer Racinette-Hagrid Date: 6/13/00 11:40 pm (ET) GORDAN KORMAN!!!!!!!!!!!! Oh man, he was my favorite in elementary school. "I Want To Go Home" was so great. "Betwixt these sheets sleepeth ye biggest twit in Ontario." What was the one where the kid was a drummer and stuff? Ooh, I haftagotta read his stuff again! From christineoswell at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 04:13:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 00:13:00 -0400 Subject: Rootbeer Racinette-Hagrid Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1934 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: Rootbeer Racinette-Hagrid Reply To: [Yahoo! #1933] Re: Rootbeer Racinette-Hagrid Date: 6/14/00 12:13 am (ET) Who is Bugs Potter? My grade 7 teacher read it to us in class. :o) From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 05:24:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 01:24:00 -0400 Subject: Silly question: What are chipolatas? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1935 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Silly question: What are chipolatas? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1931] Silly question: What are chipolatas? Date: 6/14/00 1:24 am (ET) Chipolatas are a type of sausage, quite thin and usually made of pork. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 05:39:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 01:39:00 -0400 Subject: Bestseller v Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1936 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Bestseller v Reply To: [Yahoo! #1928] Bestseller v Date: 6/14/00 1:39 am (ET) "As for HP marketing in the UK, I feel compelled to comment that I was very disappointed on my recent visit to the UK." Now that you mention it, they don't exactly push the boat out here, do they? I went to Borders in Oxford Street to buy books 2 and 3 and couldn't find them, at first, in the children's section. Then I looked round and a modest and well-behaved pile of books cried out feebly, "here we are!" I rescued a couple of them. In WH Smiths, where I ordered book 4, the pile was even smaller and more pathetic. It looked like it hadn't been fed for days. It's that British reserve I guess, but I imagine there will be some slightly more OTT activity in the run-up to 8th July. Reservedly yours, Neil Ward Esq. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 06:52:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 02:52:00 -0400 Subject: Bestseller v Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1937 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Bestseller v Reply To: [Yahoo! #1936] Re: Bestseller v Date: 6/14/00 2:52 am (ET) <"As for HP marketing in the UK, I feel compelled to comment that I was very disappointed on my recent visit to the UK." Now that you mention it, they don't exactly push the boat out here, do they?> Things seem to be a bit more obvious in Oxford. Blackwell's (a large, mainly academic, book shop has two large book shelves of them. Waterstones has a massive window display and then all the books together on a table as you go in one of the doors. WHSmiths has a small table with the books on at the entrance to the book section. I guess it makes a difference where you live. Having said that all of them have the books in the normal fiction section instead of the childrens section. Simon From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 07:47:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 03:47:00 -0400 Subject: Chat time poll Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1938 From: melaniem68 Subject: Chat time poll Reply To: [Yahoo! #1866] Re: Harry Potter Chat ?? Date: 6/14/00 3:47 am (ET) Sounds like several people were happy with Sunday's chat time, but I still think a poll might still be a good idea. After all, we may have some who couldn't make it at all and others who made it, but it really wasn't the best time. So, I've set up a poll at: http://www.misterpoll.com/poll.wga?id=2331733056 I'd like to see the input of anyone interested in chatting, whether last Sunday's chat time was ideal for you, the worst possible time anyone could come up with <g>, or anywhere in between. It sounds like Sundays at 8:00 GMT will be good for several for a permanent chat. But if the poll reveals another popular day and time, maybe we can create a second chat, as Nick suggests. Hopefully, everyone who would like to chat can make it to one or the other (or both). From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 11:32:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 07:32:00 -0400 Subject: Ron Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1939 From: hert0661 Subject: Ron Date: 6/14/00 7:32 am (ET) Has anyone got an idea of how Ron is going to explain to his parents where he got the owl from? It would not be possible for him to say it is from Sirius because everyone still thinks he is guilty. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 12:42:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:42:00 -0400 Subject: Ron Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1940 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Ron Reply To: [Yahoo! #1939] Ron Date: 6/14/00 8:42 am (ET) "Has anyone got an idea of how Ron is going to explain to his parents where he got the owl from? It would not be possible for him to say it is from Sirius because everyone still thinks he is guilty." He could say Hedwig had a baby... Neil From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 12:43:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:43:00 -0400 Subject: Ron Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1941 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Ron Reply To: [Yahoo! #1940] Re: Ron Date: 6/14/00 8:43 am (ET) ...or that Hagrid, care-of-magical-creatures-guy that he is, gave it to him... From morrigan09 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 12:54:00 2000 From: morrigan09 at yahoo.com (morrigan09 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 08:54:00 -0400 Subject: Book Ages Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1942 From: morrigan09 Subject: Re: Book Ages Reply To: [Yahoo! #1926] Re: Book Ages Date: 6/14/00 8:54 am (ET) > I'd assumed, because of the marketing, that JK Rowling set out to write for older children, but perhaps she didn't have a specific age group in mind. Has she said? > She's said she wrote it purely for herself, without any particular audience in mind (can't recall the exact quote). --morrigan From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 13:11:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:11:00 -0400 Subject: Book Ages Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1943 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Book Ages Reply To: [Yahoo! #1942] Re: Book Ages Date: 6/14/00 9:11 am (ET) "She's said she wrote it purely for herself, without any particular audience in mind (can't recall the exact quote)." Imagine, then, if Book 7 turns out satanically dark and controversial, to the extent that anyone would regard it as being unsuitable for children. How on earth would they market it? Neil From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 13:23:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:23:00 -0400 Subject: Professor McGonogal Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1944 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Professor McGonogal Date: 6/14/00 9:23 am (ET) According to my best pal Harry over at aint-it-cool-news, looks like we may get Maggie Smith!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 13:27:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:27:00 -0400 Subject: Professor McGonogal Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1945 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Professor McGonogal Reply To: [Yahoo! #1944] Professor McGonogal Date: 6/14/00 9:27 am (ET) Maggie Smith!?! Excellent! From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 13:34:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:34:00 -0400 Subject: Professor McGonogal Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1946 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: Professor McGonogal Reply To: [Yahoo! #1945] Re: Professor McGonogal Date: 6/14/00 9:34 am (ET) No, Maggie SIMPSON I said. It's going to be animated, and they're all going to have yellow skin. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 13:37:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:37:00 -0400 Subject: Professor McGonogal Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1947 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Professor McGonogal Reply To: [Yahoo! #1946] Re: Professor McGonogal Date: 6/14/00 9:37 am (ET) So we'll finally get to hear her speak. Interesting. Or will she be miming her performance? Hmmm, very avant garde... From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 13:39:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:39:00 -0400 Subject: Professor McGonogal Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1948 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: Professor McGonogal Reply To: [Yahoo! #1947] Re: Professor McGonogal Date: 6/14/00 9:39 am (ET) Bah, we've already heard Maggie Simpson speak! Liz Taylor did the voice. Man, get with the program! From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 13:42:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:42:00 -0400 Subject: Professor McGonogal Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1949 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Professor McGonogal Reply To: [Yahoo! #1948] Re: Professor McGonogal Date: 6/14/00 9:42 am (ET) Ahh, but it wasn't a full, coherent sentence. From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 13:45:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 09:45:00 -0400 Subject: Professor McGonogal Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1950 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: Professor McGonogal Reply To: [Yahoo! #1949] Re: Professor McGonogal Date: 6/14/00 9:45 am (ET) Oh! Oh! Just move the goalposts whydon't cha? Ooooh, people like you make me sooo mad!!! "But we've already heard Maggie speak in coherent sentences!" "Yes, but we haven't heard her speak in Hebrew whilst inhaling helium!" From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 14:15:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:15:00 -0400 Subject: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1951 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Date: 6/14/00 10:15 am (ET) I was dumbstruck by the lawsuit that Stouffer is claiming against Rowling. On her page http://www.realmuggles.com she has a link to her claims of copyright infringement. Below is a link to a copy of her claims with my comments in RED... I don't think she has a case... http://www.geocities.com/losin-it/compare.html From vikar25 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 14:15:00 2000 From: vikar25 at yahoo.com (vikar25 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:15:00 -0400 Subject: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1952 From: vikar25 Subject: Re: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1951] Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Date: 6/14/00 10:15 am (ET) Comical, isn't it? Regards, Vikar25 From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 14:26:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:26:00 -0400 Subject: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1953 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1952] Re: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Date: 6/14/00 10:26 am (ET) Saddest thing is, her characters are pitiful and scary at the same time. They bear a striking resemblance to the guy in the Canteena scene in Star Wars. I wonder if George Lucas is going to sue her? From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 14:28:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:28:00 -0400 Subject: Professor McGonogal Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1954 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Professor McGonogal Reply To: [Yahoo! #1950] Re: Professor McGonogal Date: 6/14/00 10:28 am (ET) Seriously, though... I think Maggie Smith would be great, or Dame Judi Dench. She kinda has an old school marm presence too. From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 14:31:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:31:00 -0400 Subject: Professor McGonogal Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1955 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Professor McGonogal Reply To: [Yahoo! #1944] Professor McGonogal Date: 6/14/00 10:31 am (ET) Oh I would love that!! From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 14:33:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 10:33:00 -0400 Subject: Professor McGonogal Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1956 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Professor McGonogal Reply To: [Yahoo! #1954] Re: Professor McGonogal Date: 6/14/00 10:33 am (ET) Have you ever seen the film "The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie"? She's stern, but very lovable at the same time. I think she's an excellent choice. From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 15:05:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:05:00 -0400 Subject: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1957 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1953] Re: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Date: 6/14/00 11:05 am (ET) Add this to the fact that her books were entirely self-published at were only distributed in her hometown. She never made it into books-in-print, nor is she registered with the Library of Congress. Also, tradmeark and copyright are not the same thing-- Rowling was not using the word Muggle as a tardemark-- she was using it as a word which exists in the English language. I mean that would be like me trying to lay sole claim for the use of the word "turnip". If you read her entire complaint, it gets even worse. She says that the accusations of promoting witchcraft by conservative religious groups against Rowling have damaged HER because she uses the word muggles, and that Rowling should bear financial responsibility for this alleged "damage". She also says that she has received hate mail from Harry Potter fans, and that people have said bad things about her on the net, and that since Rowling has not worked to stop them from doing this, she is in effect ENCOURAGING them, and is thus responsible. SHe implies at her site that the Harry Potter books are dangerous and encourage anti-social behaviour. This is potentially libelous, and from what I understand, there is very little chance that this case is going to go anywhere. Alas, the system is set up so that even the most frivolous claims can get their day in court, so this will probably go on for as long as Stouffer wishes to waste her time and everybody else's. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 15:18:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:18:00 -0400 Subject: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1958 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1957] Re: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Date: 6/14/00 11:18 am (ET) <<...accusations of promoting witchcraft by conservative religious groups...>> Last Sunday, I attended a Christening at Trinity Church here in NYC. For those of you who don't know, it is one of the oldest churches in the US, and is EXTREMELY religious - Apostolic Episcopalean - even more catholic than the Catholic Church! On the back of the service agenda, there was a listing of the church's activities, one of which was the Trinity Reader's Group. They are having their first meeting next Sunday, and the first book they are discussing is Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. It seems to me that the majority of people realize that this is just a STORY and is not promoting anything other than an increase in reading. Which is a pretty good thing, in my humble opinion. From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 16:06:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:06:00 -0400 Subject: Bestseller v Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1959 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Bestseller v Reply To: [Yahoo! #1936] Re: Bestseller v Date: 6/14/00 12:06 pm (ET) >>>It's that British reserve I guess,<<<< Well, you know we Yanks like to be LOUD and enthusiastic about stuff we like. We have no shame!!! We enjoy dressing up and pretending we are great big kids. We chase after the latest sensation like boisterous puppies! Let me stop before I get carried away..... Danemead From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 16:39:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:39:00 -0400 Subject: Voldemort's Wand Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1960 From: Danemead Subject: Voldemort's Wand Date: 6/14/00 12:39 pm (ET) I've been thinking about WHAT it might be in Sorcerer's Stone that will be crucial to the ending of HP#4 (according to JKR). First thing that comes to mind is the scene where Harry buys his wand, which turns out to be the "brother" of Voldemort's wand. Since You-Know-Who apparently lost his body in the encounter with baby Harry (he had to use Quirrell's body to re-animate himself), did he drop his wand at the Potter's house, or manage to take it with him to wherever he's been hiding for 10 years? Was it destroyed, or does someone have possession of it? Can it be harmful to Harry in someone else's hands. Just speculating..... From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 16:42:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 12:42:00 -0400 Subject: Bestseller v Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1961 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Bestseller v Reply To: [Yahoo! #1959] Re: Bestseller v Date: 6/14/00 12:42 pm (ET) "Well, you know we Yanks like to be LOUD and enthusiastic about stuff we like. We have no shame!!! We enjoy dressing up and pretending we are great big kids. We chase after the latest sensation like boisterous puppies!" Tut, tut... just as I thought! Neil From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 17:27:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:27:00 -0400 Subject: Just out today Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1962 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Just out today Date: 6/14/00 1:27 pm (ET) With a release date at the end. http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/eo/20000614/en/the_hunt_for_harry_potter_2.html From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 17:39:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:39:00 -0400 Subject: Just out today Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1963 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Just out today Reply To: [Yahoo! #1962] Just out today Date: 6/14/00 1:39 pm (ET) Here's my question. I want to be Professor Sprout. REALLY BADLY. So... can I send a tape of me reading in my best British accent, telling a joke, my name, etc., to Warner Brothers and ask to be considered for Professor Sprout? I'm young, but I'd make a good "dumpy little witch". ;) Jen Ps. what characters would YOU guys like to play in the movie (assuming that you're all as attention-hungry as I am)? From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 17:52:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:52:00 -0400 Subject: Just out today Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1964 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Just out today Reply To: [Yahoo! #1963] Re: Just out today Date: 6/14/00 1:52 pm (ET) <Ps. what characters would YOU guys like to play in the movie (assuming that you're all as attention-hungry as I am)?> Well the juvenile child bit of me would say Harry of course. The fact that I am a 21 and a lot taller than a small 10 year old may get in the way of this! I could see myself as Oliver Wood - I can be quite obsesive at times! Friends would say that I could do a good Percy - struting around like a peacock, thinking that I am very important. I seem to run out of other possibilities since most of the other characters are much younger or older. Simon From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 17:57:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 13:57:00 -0400 Subject: Just out today Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1965 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Just out today Reply To: [Yahoo! #1963] Re: Just out today Date: 6/14/00 1:57 pm (ET) I'd mentioned quite a while ago that I'd love to be Madame Hooch. If not her, then Madame Pomfrey. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 18:03:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:03:00 -0400 Subject: Just out today Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1966 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Just out today Reply To: [Yahoo! #1962] Just out today Date: 6/14/00 2:03 pm (ET) >So boys and girls, mark this date down: November 16, 2001. That's the day Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone casts its spell in theaters everywhere. What an interesting phrase... "ub theaters everywhere." So, does that mean they are going to be releaseing it Worldwide on the same date. It would be nice... and I think Prince Of Egypt almost managed to do it, so it is possible. Nick. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 18:09:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:09:00 -0400 Subject: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1967 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1958] Re: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Date: 6/14/00 2:09 pm (ET) <It seems to me that the majority of people realize that this is just a STORY and is not promoting anything other than an increase in reading. Which is a pretty good thing, in my humble opinion.> I lived in a big city for quite a few years and it was a big problem to get kids to read anything. So it is self defeating to start banning books which they are more likely to read! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 18:12:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:12:00 -0400 Subject: Just out today Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1968 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Just out today Reply To: [Yahoo! #1966] Re: Just out today Date: 6/14/00 2:12 pm (ET) <So, does that mean they are going to be releaseing it Worldwide on the same date. It would be nice... and I think Prince Of Egypt almost managed to do it, so it is possible..> Lets hope so. And also lets hope for a film that is faithful to the books. Simon From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 18:56:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 14:56:00 -0400 Subject: Year 1 Roll Call Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1969 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Year 1 Roll Call Reply To: [Yahoo! #1920] Year 1 Roll Call Date: 6/14/00 2:56 pm (ET) Dean Thomas is in Gryffindor. Crabbe and Goyles first names are mentioned somewhere, I think they are Vincent Crabbe and Gregory Goyle if I remember correctly. Another person in Harrys year is Ernie MacMillan of Hufflepuff. As far as I can remember, Ernie M. is the only kid in Harrys year who is not mentioned in the Book 1 sorting ceremony and is mentioned by name later on. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 19:06:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:06:00 -0400 Subject: Questions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1970 From: hert0661 Subject: Questions Date: 6/14/00 3:06 pm (ET) The following are a few questions that I thought of while reading the books: Who pays the teachers - do the pupils pay to go to the school? Where did Harry get his trunk from - there is no mention of it until he turns up at the train station in book 1. Simon From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 19:24:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:24:00 -0400 Subject: Questions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1971 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Questions Reply To: [Yahoo! #1970] Questions Date: 6/14/00 3:24 pm (ET) I would guess the teachers are paid by the Ministry of Magic, who probably are paid by taxes of some kind. And the trunk probably was picked up during the shopping trip with Hagrid, although it is not mentioned, makes the most sense though. From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 20:53:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 16:53:00 -0400 Subject: Just out today Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1972 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Just out today Reply To: [Yahoo! #1963] Re: Just out today Date: 6/14/00 4:53 pm (ET) Oh I want to be Madam Rosemerta, proprieter of the Three Broomsticks! I wanna wear those sparkly truquoise high heels, and I would play her very flirtatiously. *grins* From lilly_potter at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 21:14:00 2000 From: lilly_potter at yahoo.com (lilly_potter at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:14:00 -0400 Subject: chat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1973 From: lilly_potter Subject: chat Date: 6/14/00 5:14 pm (ET) hi guys do we have set times to chat Christina From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 21:29:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:29:00 -0400 Subject: chat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1974 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: chat Reply To: [Yahoo! #1973] chat Date: 6/14/00 5:29 pm (ET) <hi guys do we have set times to chat> The information is on the calendar. At the moment the times are Friday 9pm-12am and Sunday 2pm-4pm in Eastern Daylight time. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 21:48:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 17:48:00 -0400 Subject: Who would you be? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1975 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Who would you be? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1963] Re: Just out today Date: 6/14/00 5:48 pm (ET) I think if I had a role in the film, it would probably have to be one wearing a big foam-rubber costume, with a voice dubbed on afterwards by Jim Dale. Let's see - I could be Norbert or, with my naturally grey complexion, the troll... On the other hand, I quite fancy trying my hand at Severus Snape. I don't look much like him, but I'm good at being bitter and snappy. Neil From pt4ever at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 22:00:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:00:00 -0400 Subject: Just out today Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1976 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Just out today Reply To: [Yahoo! #1972] Re: Just out today Date: 6/14/00 6:00 pm (ET) I'd want to be Moaning Myrtle. She's the only character in the book who even remotely matches my description. I'm plump, I wear glasses (when I'm not wearing my contact lenses, that is) and I can whine with the best of them! :) -- JoAnna From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 22:31:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:31:00 -0400 Subject: More about the Stouffer Bimbo Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1977 From: rainy_lilac Subject: More about the Stouffer Bimbo Date: 6/14/00 6:31 pm (ET) Well I went to hwer site and she is... ahem... quite SHIRTY about the rumours that she will be dropping her lawsuit, and she is now soliciting donations to help pay for her legal fees. The "interest" she claims people are showing in her "product" can't be much since she is still hawking the goods. Pitiful. That website gets more and more bitter everytime she updates it. Time to deep six this so-called "news". From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 14 22:44:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 18:44:00 -0400 Subject: Eeesh.. I shouldn't call her a bimbo.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1978 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Eeesh.. I shouldn't call her a bimbo.... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1977] More about the Stouffer Bimbo Date: 6/14/00 6:44 pm (ET) Bad girl, bad girl.... From draconic_mage at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 01:20:00 2000 From: draconic_mage at yahoo.com (draconic_mage at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:20:00 -0400 Subject: It`s me! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1979 From: draconic_mage Subject: It`s me! Date: 6/14/00 9:20 pm (ET) "If I wanted to be like anyone I wouldd definitely, with no hesitation, have to say Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington. Otherwise known as Nearly-Headless Nick. Because he is like me in almost all aspects, besides the being a ghost part. I just kind of hover around people not saying much just putting in a helpful word or two when needed, or suggestions when asked. If I choose to be I can basically be forgotten and just hover around with nobody noticing or be right in the heat of things and never get burned(so to speak). Although I am also very much a Peeves type person in those same aspects. I am definitely a troublemaker" *laughs* "definitely, YOU try sneaking into the school after dark and setting up locker bombs, or setting every single clock in the whole place forward or backwards one hour" *laughs again* "oh yea! remember: If life is a waste of time and time is a waste of life them let`s all get wasted and have the time of our lives! ha ha. No I don`t drink but it`s still funny. Just to say I don`t do ANY types of drugs either. "It`s a good thing I don`t get caught in HALF the things I do or I would REALLY be in trouble. I don`t do ANYTHING that will hurt people though. The locker-bombs I make are only for blowing open the lockers. Not even enough to scorch a person. But it does blow, and I mean BLOW the lockers open! I think I`ve rattled on enough so I`ll leave reading this up to you. simply put, 'mage' From estesrandy at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 01:57:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 21:57:00 -0400 Subject: Anagram Hints Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1980 From: estesrandy Subject: Anagram Hints Date: 6/14/00 9:57 pm (ET) I haven't gotten any emails at estesrandy at yahoo.com yet, so I figure you are either a. You are being held captive, tied up and trying to send me your email by moving the mouse with your outstretched tongue b. You met Mr. or Miss Right and have been making mad passionate love since Monday and have been too tired to send me your email. c. You have been arrested for reading subversive material like Harry Potter to minors d. You are stumped on the anagrams and need some hints I'll assume most of you fit answer d. so here goes Book One Anagram Hints: 1. You talk about it every day 2. Evil Coverup 3. Can't get a straight answer 4. Is it really there? 5. Missing a Reptile? 6. Knuckleheads 7. Mix it up ! 8. Yummy Yummy 9. Bet you can't eat just one ! 10. Did you say that or did I? Regarding the perfect role for me in the movie: By the way, In my younger days I would make a great Fred or George Weasley. Now that I have three kids, I figure I must be Arthur Weasley. I secretly wish to be Hagrid, but I'm not that big. From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 03:03:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97 at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 23:03:00 -0400 Subject: More about the Stouffer b**** Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1981 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: More about the Stouffer b**** Reply To: [Yahoo! #1977] More about the Stouffer Bimbo Date: 6/14/00 11:03 pm (ET) See? Now you don't have to worry - I took out the "imbo" in bimbo. ;) Anyway....... I went to the site and thought "hey, let's look at this author interview and see what she has to say when someone impartial asks her questions." I thought it'd take me to some other site with a print copy of an interview. Probably a small-town newspaper or something. Anyway, it takes me to another of her pages, and when reading the questions, it seems to me that she just made up an interview with herself. "Where did you get the idea for your *cute* little characters?" Hello? They're CREEPY! And I like the claim that J.K. Rowling is an American citizen and she has a certified copy of a document that states that. Ha! I'd LOVE to see that document. Sorry, still reeling from that "interview". I think I'd kinda like to ask that interviewer some questions of my own... Jen From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 03:18:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 23:18:00 -0400 Subject: More about the Stouffer b**** Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1982 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: More about the Stouffer b**** Reply To: [Yahoo! #1981] Re: More about the Stouffer b**** Date: 6/14/00 11:18 pm (ET) Hi: <. . . it seems to me that she just made up an interview with herself. "Where did you get the idea for your *cute* little characters?" Hello? They're CREEPY!> ROFL! I couldn't agree more!! I also had the impression that the "interview" was written by her (or perhaps by her totally brainless lawyer who filed this suit in the first place). <And I like the claim that J.K. Rowling is an American citizen and she has a certified copy of a document that states that. Ha! I'd LOVE to see that document.> Yeah, I can't wait until she has to produce that one into evidence. I suspect she (and/or her atty) have completely misconstrued something. Supposedly her copyright application says she's a US citizen. I doubt it. I bet it says Scholastic is a US corporation. I might, just for grins, see if I can procure a copy of said copyright application. I'll post if I do get it. Penny From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 04:27:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:27:00 -0400 Subject: Just out today Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1983 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Just out today Reply To: [Yahoo! #1976] Re: Just out today Date: 6/15/00 12:27 am (ET) I wanna be Moaning Myrtle. I WAAAAAANNNNNA!!!!!!! Whine whine whine. You just say you want to be Moaning Myrtle to hurt my feelings. Thats right, make fun of me just because Im a ghost. Moooooooooooooooaaaaaaannnn. Whiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnne. Do I get the part? From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 04:30:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 00:30:00 -0400 Subject: Eeesh.. I shouldn't call her a bimbo Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1984 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Eeesh.. I shouldn't call her a bimbo Reply To: [Yahoo! #1978] Eeesh.. I shouldn't call her a bimbo.... Date: 6/15/00 12:30 am (ET) The word bimbo is, in general, a mean and sexist word that I, personally, almost never use. On the other hand, I have to say that I really hate that Stouffer bimbo. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 05:05:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 01:05:00 -0400 Subject: Eeesh.. I shouldn't call her a bimbo Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1985 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Eeesh.. I shouldn't call her a bimbo Reply To: [Yahoo! #1984] Re: Eeesh.. I shouldn't call her a bimbo Date: 6/15/00 1:05 am (ET) Incidentally, there's a surreal British comedian called Harry Hill. One of the regular characters on his show is a rubber cat called Stouffer - he does a daft ventriloquist's act with it. Perhaps someone is working Nancy from behind...? Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 05:07:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 01:07:00 -0400 Subject: Anagram Hints Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1986 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Anagram Hints Reply To: [Yahoo! #1980] Anagram Hints Date: 6/15/00 1:07 am (ET) Well, I'm up to seven now... I wish Simon would hurry up and win this thing! Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 05:27:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 01:27:00 -0400 Subject: Voldemo... oops, You-Know-Who Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1987 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Voldemo... oops, You-Know-Who Date: 6/15/00 1:27 am (ET) I read in the news somewhere that they might not cast Voldemort in the HP film - they're considering using a computer-generated image. The story also confirmed that Maggie Smith is thinking about playing Minerva McGonagall, if she can get out of a West End commitment next year. I was was going to post the link, but I can't find it now... Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 05:29:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 01:29:00 -0400 Subject: Voldemo... oops, You-Know-Who Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1988 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Voldemo... oops, You-Know-Who Reply To: [Yahoo! #1987] Voldemo... oops, You-Know-Who Date: 6/15/00 1:29 am (ET) "I read in the news somewhere that they might not cast Voldemort in the HP film - they're considering using a computer-generated image." ... there must be so many actors wanting to play the back of someone's head :) Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 08:25:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 04:25:00 -0400 Subject: Anagram Hints Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1989 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Anagram Hints Reply To: [Yahoo! #1986] Re: Anagram Hints Date: 6/15/00 4:25 am (ET) <Well, I'm up to seven now... I wish Simon would hurry up and win this thing!> I am also up to seven - struggling with the remaining ones! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 08:32:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 04:32:00 -0400 Subject: Anagram Hints Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1990 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Anagram Hints Reply To: [Yahoo! #1989] Re: Anagram Hints Date: 6/15/00 4:32 am (ET) The hints are helping - I got nine of them now. Just 5 left. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 10:19:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 06:19:00 -0400 Subject: Anagram Hints Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1991 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Anagram Hints Reply To: [Yahoo! #1990] Re: Anagram Hints Date: 6/15/00 6:19 am (ET) 5 and 10 are stumping me... Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 10:26:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 06:26:00 -0400 Subject: Anagram Hints Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1992 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Anagram Hints Reply To: [Yahoo! #1991] Re: Anagram Hints Date: 6/15/00 6:26 am (ET) I've finished them now. They seem to be in the order they appear in the book - this may help you solve them. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 10:57:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 06:57:00 -0400 Subject: Anagram Hints Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1993 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Anagram Hints Reply To: [Yahoo! #1992] Re: Anagram Hints Date: 6/15/00 6:57 am (ET) "They seem to be in the order they appear in the book - this may help you solve them." I don't have your memory for the chronology of events... Neil From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 11:04:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 07:04:00 -0400 Subject: Eeesh.. I shouldn't call her a bimbo Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1994 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Eeesh.. I shouldn't call her a bimbo Reply To: [Yahoo! #1985] Re: Eeesh.. I shouldn't call her a bimbo Date: 6/15/00 7:04 am (ET) ROFL!!! Neil that is great! From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 11:05:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 07:05:00 -0400 Subject: Voldemo... oops, You-Know-Who Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1995 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Voldemo... oops, You-Know-Who Reply To: [Yahoo! #1987] Voldemo... oops, You-Know-Who Date: 6/15/00 7:05 am (ET) Ohhhhhh!!! Find the link, find the link!!!! SOmebody has to be Voldemort's voice though..... From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 11:09:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 07:09:00 -0400 Subject: Voldemort's Wand Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1996 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Voldemort's Wand Reply To: [Yahoo! #1960] Voldemort's Wand Date: 6/15/00 7:09 am (ET) Well, we KNOW that this wand will be important later on in one of the books! It has to. There is no way that Rowling would create such a detail without it becoming key later. I think there is something more about the protection his mother gave him that we will learn later..... From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 11:11:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 07:11:00 -0400 Subject: Voldemort's Wand Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1997 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Voldemort's Wand Reply To: [Yahoo! #1960] Voldemort's Wand Date: 6/15/00 7:11 am (ET) Oh God, and if Lucius Malfoy (who should be very bitter by now) had possession of Tom Riddle's diary, who knows what other things he might have that belonged to him. What else is in that hidden room underneath the Malfoy drawing room? From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 12:20:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 08:20:00 -0400 Subject: Voldemo... oops, You-Know-Who Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1998 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Voldemo... oops, You-Know-Who Reply To: [Yahoo! #1995] Re: Voldemo... oops, You-Know-Who Date: 6/15/00 8:20 am (ET) <<Somebody has to be Voldemort's voice though.....>> I'll do it! <BG> From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:02:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:02:00 -0400 Subject: Picked up "P.O.A." last night. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C1999 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Picked up "P.O.A." last night. Date: 6/15/00 9:02 am (ET) and now I understand why I feel the way I do when I am at work, and why I crave chocolate afterwards! From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:11:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:11:00 -0400 Subject: I actually don't have anything exciting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2000 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: I actually don't have anything exciting Reply To: [Yahoo! #1999] Picked up "P.O.A." last night. Date: 6/15/00 9:11 am (ET) to say. I just wanted to be 2000! Good morning all, only a few more weeks until Book 4! Woo hoo! From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:16:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:16:00 -0400 Subject: I actually don't have anything excit Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2001 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: I actually don't have anything excit Reply To: [Yahoo! #2000] I actually don't have anything exciting Date: 6/15/00 9:16 am (ET) Are we all meeting on the night of the 7th? Should we wear wizard hats to distingush us from the rest of the crowd in Times Square? From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:19:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:19:00 -0400 Subject: I actually don't have anything excit Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2002 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: I actually don't have anything excit Reply To: [Yahoo! #2001] Re: I actually don't have anything excit Date: 6/15/00 9:19 am (ET) Somehow, I think wizard hats will be rather popular. If everyone could go to a t-shirt store and get one made with "HP for Grownups" across the front, it might make us more easily distinguishable. Thoughts, anyone? From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:32:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:32:00 -0400 Subject: I actually don't have anything excit Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2003 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: I actually don't have anything excit Reply To: [Yahoo! #2002] Re: I actually don't have anything excit Date: 6/15/00 9:32 am (ET) Ooh, howsabout we all wear our underpants on our heads????? Or we could just pick a location and meet there. Which wouldn't prevent those who wanted to wear underwear hats from doing so. From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:37:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:37:00 -0400 Subject: I actually don't have anything excit Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2004 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: I actually don't have anything excit Reply To: [Yahoo! #2003] Re: I actually don't have anything excit Date: 6/15/00 9:37 am (ET) But how will we distiguish from the muggles who wear their underwear on their head in Times Square? From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:39:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:39:00 -0400 Subject: I actually don't have anything excit Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2005 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: I actually don't have anything excit Reply To: [Yahoo! #2004] Re: I actually don't have anything excit Date: 6/15/00 9:39 am (ET) <<But how will we distiguish from the muggles who wear their underwear on their head in Times Square?>> He definitely has a point, Darwin. This IS New York, remember? Unless we all get Harry Potter underwear! ;-p From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:42:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:42:00 -0400 Subject: I actually don't have anything excit Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2006 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: I actually don't have anything excit Reply To: [Yahoo! #2002] Re: I actually don't have anything excit Date: 6/15/00 9:42 am (ET) Hi: <If everyone could go to a t-shirt store and get one made with "HP for Grownups" across the front, it might make us more easily distinguishable.> Sounds like fun -- wish I could be there! I have a small contingent of HP buddies here in Houston who are meeting at the B&N on Post Oak at midnight to pick up our copies. If anyone else is from the Houston area and wants to meet up with us, let me know (Skimmel???). We're planning to wear the official HP shirts (Warner Brothers). Penny From p_dumbledore at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:43:00 2000 From: p_dumbledore at yahoo.com (p_dumbledore at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:43:00 -0400 Subject: I actually don't have anything excit Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2007 From: p_dumbledore Subject: Re: I actually don't have anything excit Reply To: [Yahoo! #2001] Re: I actually don't have anything excit Date: 6/15/00 9:43 am (ET) Acutally I suspect just wearing our wizarding robes will probably be sufficient. Don't want to stand out too much in the crowds.. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:43:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:43:00 -0400 Subject: I actually don't have anything excit Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2008 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: I actually don't have anything excit Reply To: [Yahoo! #2005] Re: I actually don't have anything excit Date: 6/15/00 9:43 am (ET) You could all wear HP underwear on your heads, carry a wizard hat, have t-shirts with Grown Ups Love Harry Potter. Also carrying along a broomstick which is doubling up as a Gryffindor flag! Simon PS: Living in the UK I feel I can make stupid suggestions as I know it will not effect me. From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:45:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:45:00 -0400 Subject: WB Stores in NY Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2009 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: WB Stores in NY Date: 6/15/00 9:45 am (ET) I went to a WB Store yesterday and asked about the HP products. They didn't have them out yet and were surprised I knew they were going to carry them. They told me to expect it by the end of JULY! They managers had to read the book by the end of June. Probably will get more addicted adults... One friend told me she was sending me to Betty Ford. From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:46:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:46:00 -0400 Subject: I actually don't have anything excit Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2010 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Re: I actually don't have anything excit Reply To: [Yahoo! #2005] Re: I actually don't have anything excit Date: 6/15/00 9:46 am (ET) Oooooh, we're talking about the Times Square in NEW YORK. I was thinking of the West Virginia Times Square. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:50:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:50:00 -0400 Subject: WB Stores in NY Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2011 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: WB Stores in NY Reply To: [Yahoo! #2009] WB Stores in NY Date: 6/15/00 9:50 am (ET) Hi: <I went to a WB Store yesterday and asked about the HP products. They didn't have them out yet and were surprised I knew they were going to carry them. They told me to expect it by the end of JULY!> They don't have them in the WB store in Houston either. I got mine online through www.wbstore.com -- it did take nearly 2 weeks to arrive though so act quickly if you want one for the 7th. Penny From babynick34 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:55:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:55:00 -0400 Subject: WB Stores in NY Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2012 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: WB Stores in NY Reply To: [Yahoo! #2009] WB Stores in NY Date: 6/15/00 9:55 am (ET) Hi... There is an earlier posting on this subject in the message archive. WBStore (UK) have told us that US stores are expecting delivery in July... and that UK stores won't be getting merchandise until December! I complained about this naturally... seeing that the books started out here in the UK first, surely the merchandise would be here first. WBros here in the UK are saying that due to confidentiality agreements, they can say nothing further about the situation - so I wrote to Jo to ask her intervene... with luck she will do a Professor MacGonagall impression at the next meeting! Nice to know they are making their store managers read the books. I suggested to Warner's Lawyers that they should do that... not sure if they did! Nick. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 13:58:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 09:58:00 -0400 Subject: I actually don't have anything excit Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2013 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: I actually don't have anything excit Reply To: [Yahoo! #2008] Re: I actually don't have anything excit Date: 6/15/00 9:58 am (ET) >Living in the UK I feel I can make stupid suggestions as I know it will not effect me. So you won't be wearing a "Grownups Love Harry Potter" t-shirt on the 8th of July at Kings Cross then Simon! Hmm... I wonder if I can get a backprint done on to my Hogwarts T-Shirt. Nick. From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 14:08:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:08:00 -0400 Subject: Casting Aunt Marge Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2014 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Casting Aunt Marge Date: 6/15/00 10:08 am (ET) How about Patricia Routledge? Not a far stretch from Hyacinth... From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 14:10:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:10:00 -0400 Subject: I actually don't have anything excit Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2015 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: I actually don't have anything excit Reply To: [Yahoo! #2013] Re: I actually don't have anything excit Date: 6/15/00 10:10 am (ET) <So you won't be wearing a "Grownups Love Harry Potter" t-shirt on the 8th of July at Kings Cross then Simon!> Well as Neil said yesterday we are more reserved in this country. Simon From babynick34 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 14:24:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34 at yahoo.com) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 10:24:00 -0400 Subject: Casting Aunt Marge Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2016 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Casting Aunt Marge Reply To: [Yahoo! #2014] Casting Aunt Marge Date: 6/15/00 10:24 am (ET) Oh yes... I can picture this one. Though are there not any bigger parts that might be suitable... I wonder how she would do as a Professor MacGonagall? Nick From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 16:01:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:01:00 -0400 Subject: Ok, so I'm evil.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2017 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Ok, so I'm evil.... Date: 6/15/00 12:01 pm (ET) Go to the Stouffers page, scroll down to the 2nd picture on the page. Put your thumb over the top part of the Muggles face, and they look like little butts! I am a grown up....no really, 27 infact, but it is damn funny. From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 16:02:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:02:00 -0400 Subject: And that link is... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2018 From: yrbecca_call Subject: And that link is... Date: 6/15/00 12:02 pm (ET) http://www.realmuggles.com/ So you don't have to dig. From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 16:20:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:20:00 -0400 Subject: Ok, so I'm evil.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2019 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Ok, so I'm evil.... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2017] Ok, so I'm evil.... Date: 6/15/00 12:20 pm (ET) That's what I thought when I first saw them. I guess her muggles can rightly be called "BUTTHEADS" From Danemead at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 16:30:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:30:00 -0400 Subject: Picked up Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2020 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Picked up Reply To: [Yahoo! #1999] Picked up "P.O.A." last night. Date: 6/15/00 12:30 pm (ET) >>>Fawkes wrote: and now I understand why I feel the way I do when I am at work, and why I crave chocolate afterwards! <<<< Too true! I used to gauge the awfulness of my workday by how many M&M's I had consumed by the end of the day. Dementors present at all staff meetings, and they send their little offspring, the Energy Vampires, out to suck the happiness out of you, disguised as people you work with. My boss was one... had to spend HOURS listening to her talk about her boring self, and I couldn't even charge her $60 an hour psychiatrist fees. But I killed her, so I'm OK now. From christineoswell at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 16:31:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:31:00 -0400 Subject: And that link is... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2021 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: And that link is... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2018] And that link is... Date: 6/15/00 12:31 pm (ET) What I think is funny, is that she carries on about how exciting it is that her books are still and becoming more popular with children and their parents everywhere. So I thought I would check the meca of online bookstores, Amazon.com, to see if they had the Legend of Rah and the Muggles. What I found was "the Legend of Bagger Vance: A Novel of Golf and the Game of Life". This got me thinking, when will she file a lawsuit against this book? Things in common: they are both novels, they both have LEGEND in the title, they are both about life, and her characters are based on her son Vance and this book is based on someone named Vance.... From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 16:49:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:49:00 -0400 Subject: Ok, so I'm evil.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2022 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Ok, so I'm evil.... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2019] Re: Ok, so I'm evil.... Date: 6/15/00 12:49 pm (ET) That is exactly what I thought! From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 16:51:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 12:51:00 -0400 Subject: And that link is... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2023 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: And that link is... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2021] Re: And that link is... Date: 6/15/00 12:51 pm (ET) What I think is funny is that she keeps talking about how successful her work is, yet she is not even in Books-in-Print! AND the first thing you see when you go to her sight is that silly scrolling banner which says "Lincensing is now available!" There do not appear to be any takers.... From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 17:08:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:08:00 -0400 Subject: Get Stouffered! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2024 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Get Stouffered! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2023] Re: And that link is... Date: 6/15/00 1:08 pm (ET) Announcement I think Nancy Stouffer is an innovative literary genius whose masterly creations have been cruelly overlooked for years. I would gladly lose a limb in return for a signed copy of "The Legend of Rah and The Muggles". I look forward to the joy I will bring when I distribute small buttock-like beanie babies as Christmas gifts... In my opinion, JK Rowling should hand over her entire fortune, including her clothes, to Nancy Stouffer, this instant! Neil From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 17:13:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:13:00 -0400 Subject: Get Stouffered! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2025 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Get Stouffered! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2024] Get Stouffered! Date: 6/15/00 1:13 pm (ET) Then Jo's butt will look like a "REALMUGGLE" and Stouffer will sue her for some kind of butt-infringement. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 17:37:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:37:00 -0400 Subject: Nancy Stouffer for Grown Ups Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2026 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Nancy Stouffer for Grown Ups Date: 6/15/00 1:37 pm (ET) I've posted a picture of Stouffer... the cat, in the 'photos' section of the club. I'm told the resemblance is uncanny. Neil From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 17:53:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 13:53:00 -0400 Subject: WB Stores in NY Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2027 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: WB Stores in NY Reply To: [Yahoo! #2009] WB Stores in NY Date: 6/15/00 1:53 pm (ET) I also went to a WB store to ask about the HP products and the people who work at the store looked at me like I was nuts. They had never heard of Harry Potter!!!!!!!! I guess the 10 million people who have bought the Harry Potter books are the ONLY people who ever read books at all. From davehoz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 18:48:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:48:00 -0400 Subject: What's going on? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2028 From: davehoz Subject: What's going on? Date: 6/15/00 2:48 pm (ET) As of June 15, 11:45 PDT, the posts that are listed on the "Recent Messages" page are not linked to messages and are not showing up on the main messages page! (They seem to be messages regarding Nancy Stouffer, so I'm wondering if someone is tinkering with the system! (I know, I'm paranoid.) P.S. Does anyone know if by any chance Nancy Stouffer has been seen wearing a purple turban? From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 18:57:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:57:00 -0400 Subject: What's going on? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2029 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: What's going on? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2028] What's going on? Date: 6/15/00 2:57 pm (ET) This seems to be happening all over the Yahoo boards. I don't think Nancy has any power anymore, since that house fell on her sister... From davehoz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 18:58:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 14:58:00 -0400 Subject: What's going on? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2030 From: davehoz Subject: Re: What's going on? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2028] What's going on? Date: 6/15/00 2:58 pm (ET) I'm currently acessing the board with IE with no difficulty -- The Messages are all there... The problems I was having appear to be a bug in Netscape. I apologize to the board (but not to Nancy Stouffer). From davehoz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 19:05:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:05:00 -0400 Subject: What's going on? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2031 From: davehoz Subject: Re: What's going on? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2029] Re: What's going on? Date: 6/15/00 3:05 pm (ET) >This seems to be happening all over the Yahoo boards. Well, maybe it *isn't* Netscape. >I don't think Nancy has any power anymore, since >that house fell on her sister. I'm actually waiting for her lawsuit for plagerism (or maybe libel) against the L. Frank Baum estate next... From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 19:05:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:05:00 -0400 Subject: And that link is... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2032 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: And that link is... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2023] Re: And that link is... Date: 6/15/00 3:05 pm (ET) I notice also that she has a "hit counter" on her site. I wonder if she looks at it, saying, "See you popular I am?". Pathetic, considering at least 99% of the hits are probably people like us, going to the site to see what malarky (to put it politely) she's come up with now. Melanie From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 19:07:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:07:00 -0400 Subject: And that link is... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2033 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: And that link is... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2032] Re: And that link is... Date: 6/15/00 3:07 pm (ET) When you first go to her site, you have to "Sign" in with a name. I signed in as "Potter" she is going to be paranoid.... Ooops, too late. From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 19:12:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:12:00 -0400 Subject: Nancy Stouffer for Grown Ups Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2034 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Nancy Stouffer for Grown Ups Reply To: [Yahoo! #2026] Nancy Stouffer for Grown Ups Date: 6/15/00 3:12 pm (ET) <<I've posted a picture of Stouffer... the cat, in the 'photos' section of the club. I'm told the resemblance is uncanny.>> Awww! Let's not insult the poor kitty! As for Jen, changing the "imbo" to "****". I hope that doesn't imply what I think it does. That would be an insult to female dogs everywhere! <G> From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 19:18:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:18:00 -0400 Subject: For those of us in the Northeast Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2035 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: For those of us in the Northeast Reply To: [Yahoo! #2034] Re: Nancy Stouffer for Grown Ups Date: 6/15/00 3:18 pm (ET) Who wants to charter a Knight Bus to Pennsylvania and protest in front of Nancy's house. We can all wear our Hogwart's robes or Quidditch Robes, whichever you prefer... If you are interested, e-owl me. From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 19:22:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:22:00 -0400 Subject: For those of us in the Northeast Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2036 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Re: For those of us in the Northeast Reply To: [Yahoo! #2035] For those of us in the Northeast Date: 6/15/00 3:22 pm (ET) Im all for it, if this goes off let me know. From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 19:44:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 15:44:00 -0400 Subject: For those of us in the Northeast Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2037 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: For those of us in the Northeast Reply To: [Yahoo! #2036] Re: For those of us in the Northeast Date: 6/15/00 3:44 pm (ET) It was actually a joke, but... If people wanna go, I could just be persuaded to wear a wizard robe and cap with a protest sign "Down with Butthead, er Real Muggles (tm)" From davehoz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 20:04:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:04:00 -0400 Subject: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2038 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Reply To: [Yahoo! #1967] Re: Stouffer's Lawsuit ... Date: 6/15/00 4:04 pm (ET) >I lived in a big city for quite a few years and it was a big problem to get kids to read >anything. So it is self defeating to start banning books which they are more likely to read! The would-be Harry banners are governed by the old Puritan assumption that if someone is enjoying something, then it must be bad for them. (The modern venacular is: "No pain, no gain.") These are people who won't be happy until children are forced to agonize over "Belsham's Essays" and "Book of Funeral Orations". From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 20:12:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:12:00 -0400 Subject: Hahhahahhaha! Bimbo! Bimbo! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2039 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Hahhahahhaha! Bimbo! Bimbo! Date: 6/15/00 4:12 pm (ET) That felt good! I would love to brainstorm for a creative ways to let her know what we think of her misguided crusage. Alas work will prevent me from going to PA to protest, Quidditch robes or no. What could we do online that might get the message across? Maybe put up a "Nancy yer a Bimbo" page and ask people to add their names? From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 20:15:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:15:00 -0400 Subject: Speaking of robes.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2040 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Speaking of robes.... Date: 6/15/00 4:15 pm (ET) I am trying to picture the robes Wizards wear. It seems capes and robes are de riguer. I picture them as something like academic robes, only with ordinary clothing underneath. Rowling doesn't give much detail alas.... The only thing I can't get used to though are th pointed hats!! I think I would look silly in one of thsoe things!! I still want to wear sparkly turquoise high heels btw...... From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 20:24:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 16:24:00 -0400 Subject: Oh!! This is so nice!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2041 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Oh!! This is so nice!! Date: 6/15/00 4:24 pm (ET) Yeah yeah, I know it's just marketing, but I think whoever thought up putting a golden ticket into one copy of HP #4, carrying with it a prize of a trip to LA for a family of four should get a prize. Straight out of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory! I think thuogh that a trip to Scotland would be even better.... But what the hey..... I am reliving my childhood. I was a happy child..... From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 21:01:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:01:00 -0400 Subject: Speaking of robes.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2042 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Speaking of robes.... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2040] Speaking of robes.... Date: 6/15/00 5:01 pm (ET) Robes are pretty basic for wizards/witches. Usually they are plain robes of silk, cotton or linen, ankle length with loose, open sleeves. They could be decorated with magical designs if you like. The pointy hats are always available at Hallowe'en and I have seen a really nice one available in Greenwich Village, NYC all the time. I saw it in a store on St. Mark's. I only have one robe currently, and I use it, so I can't loan it out. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 21:01:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:01:00 -0400 Subject: Hahhahahhaha! Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2043 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Reply To: [Yahoo! #2039] Hahhahahhaha! Bimbo! Bimbo! Date: 6/15/00 5:01 pm (ET) <I would love to brainstorm for a creative ways to let her know what we think of her misguided crusage. Alas work will prevent me from going to PA to protest, Quidditch robes or no. What could we do online that might get the message across? Maybe put up a "Nancy yer a Bimbo" page and ask people to add their names?> I think that people should be quite careful as to what they say and do towards Nancy. Putting up hate pages and posting hate message will only help her gain support from other people as they will feel that HP fanatics are trying to put her off the lawsuit by intimadation. If we do anything it should be as constructive support for JKR and saying how much we love HP. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 21:03:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:03:00 -0400 Subject: What's going on? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2044 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: What's going on? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2031] Re: What's going on? Date: 6/15/00 5:03 pm (ET) <>This seems to be happening all over the Yahoo boards. Well, maybe it *isn't* Netscape.> I have been having problems all day trying to access the messages. If I click on a specific message it sometimes brings up the list of the first 40 messages. Also Yahoo seems to be very slow today. Simon From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 21:05:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:05:00 -0400 Subject: Hahhahahhaha! Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2045 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Reply To: [Yahoo! #2043] Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Date: 6/15/00 5:05 pm (ET) That is a great idea... Does anybody have copies of Nancy's work? If someone has read her material, they might be better prepared to comment on the differences in what she is claiming. I would love to help JKR out on this one. I haven't been this excited about a book (HP) in a long time. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 21:17:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:17:00 -0400 Subject: Hahhahahhaha! Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2046 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Reply To: [Yahoo! #2045] Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Date: 6/15/00 5:17 pm (ET) <Does anybody have copies of Nancy's work?> I have looked online at Amazon (UK version) and BOL and WHSmithsonline and can find no mention of anything by her. Also tried a search of my unis libary and they have nothing by here either (this is not as silly as it may at first sound as it is a copyright library and so can demand a copy of any book published in the UK). Every where I look I find no books by her! Simon From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 21:26:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:26:00 -0400 Subject: Errrghhh... I can't read the posts.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2047 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Errrghhh... I can't read the posts.... Date: 6/15/00 5:26 pm (ET) Yahoo appears to be havign a crisis. Well here is an idea: Let's make out own site about what we think of Stouffer: We can have one page in which we counter her "claims" as somebody did here, we can have another page in which we lsist every know usage of the word "muggles" (it is pretty long), then another page stating what we feel abuot Stouffer's more scurrilous accusations. We can have another page-- a challenge!-- in which we go on a world-wide search for any red-blooded child who would prefer reading one of her "butthead" stories over Harry Potter. Then, best of all, we can have a "Guestbook" especially for Stouffer, where EVERYONE can publically post their personal message to her. (No obscenities or threats allowed, of course, and all in good humor.) Maybe we can even have an online petition requesting that Stouffer drop her silly crusade and get a life. This could be fun.... From christineoswell at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 21:27:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:27:00 -0400 Subject: Hahhahahhaha! Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2048 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Reply To: [Yahoo! #2046] Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Date: 6/15/00 5:27 pm (ET) I tried the "out of print" section of Barnes and Noble, which searches through a number of dealers carrying used/rare/out of print books. Know what I found? Nada, zip, zilch! You gotta wonder if these books even ever existed...... From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 21:33:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:33:00 -0400 Subject: Hahhahahhaha! Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2049 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Reply To: [Yahoo! #2046] Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Date: 6/15/00 5:33 pm (ET) She is not even registered with the libray of congress. By law, a copy of everything published in the US has to go there. My theory is that her books were self published-- runn off and Kinko's and marketed out of the back seat of her car. Another page we can feature! "In Search of the so-called real Muggles..." We can document all our efforts to find her books and thus demonstrate that since we can't find them even with our most vigorous efforts, how likely is it that anyone ever read them? We can issue another challenge: "Has anyone out there ever read these silly things? Do you really want to admit it?" From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 21:35:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:35:00 -0400 Subject: Speaking of robes.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2050 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Speaking of robes.... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2042] Re: Speaking of robes.... Date: 6/15/00 5:35 pm (ET) Are you a Witch too Fawkes? I have a little blue velvet slipdress I wear for spellwork, and I am saving up for a cape. *smile* From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 21:36:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:36:00 -0400 Subject: Hahhahahhaha! Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2051 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Reply To: [Yahoo! #2043] Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Date: 6/15/00 5:36 pm (ET) I suggest this jokingly really.... *smile* You are probably right Simon.... From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 21:40:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:40:00 -0400 Subject: Is there any way to remove a post? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2052 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Is there any way to remove a post? Date: 6/15/00 5:40 pm (ET) End of the day and I was being nasty. Please disregard my earlier post suggesting that we lambaste Nancy. I agree with Simon. It is counter-productive. I am sorry if I offended anyone. From christineoswell at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 21:48:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 17:48:00 -0400 Subject: Errrghhh... I can't read the posts.. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2053 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: Errrghhh... I can't read the posts.. Reply To: [Yahoo! #2047] Errrghhh... I can't read the posts.... Date: 6/15/00 5:48 pm (ET) <Yahoo appears to be havign a crisis.> So does anyone who was chatting on Sunday remember what I said about Yahoo? This is typical yahoo behavior. Doesn't happen constantly, but often enough to be irritating... From babynick34 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 22:43:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:43:00 -0400 Subject: Golden Ticket Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2054 From: babynick34 Subject: Golden Ticket Date: 6/15/00 6:43 pm (ET) Is this rumour about a Golden Ticket in one of the UK books true? I can't find reference to it at Reuters... though a recent posting to Harrypotteranonymous at egroups.com contained it. I can't believe Jo would allow such a thing to happen. And it doesn't make sense... what has a trip to LA got to do with the books? Nick. From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 22:45:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 18:45:00 -0400 Subject: Speaking of robes.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2055 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Speaking of robes.... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2040] Speaking of robes.... Date: 6/15/00 6:45 pm (ET) Ah, well, Madame Rosmerta probably doesn't wear them - the sleeves would probably interfere with serving people drinks. I kinda picture her in an off-the-shoulder "wench" outfit (you know, like the medieval times restaurant outfits that show a lot of cleavage) (and turquoise, of course) with lots of black curly hair piled on her head and bright red lipstick. Course, in my head, she kinda looks a bit cheap, but I think it's all in the "look". I also pictured the robes to look like academic ones - but I also have a picture in my head of monks' robes, too. Maybe a cross between the two? Like very heavy cotton/linen/wool/other natural fiber fabric - something that hangs pretty heavily. Except perhaps the quidditch robes, which are some synthetic fabric meant to be more aerodynamic and light. Kay, enough of this blabbering. ;) Jen Ps. About the ****. I'm not saying what it means - you can insert your favorite letters there if you want. Lessee - how many five letter b words are there? Bimbo (we've covered this already) B**** (the female dog one, likewise covered) Beach Bacon Bagel Baldy Banjo Barf-o Batty Beast Belch Biddy Bidet Bigot Biped Bison Biter Blank Bleep Blimp Bloke Blond ? Blurb Bogus Booby Bowel Brick Brine Broad Bruin Brute Bulge Bully (not really, I guess) Butch Jen (who has WAAAAAY too much time on her hands - YES, I used a dictionary - but only the "Handy College" one) From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Thu Jun 15 23:25:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 19:25:00 -0400 Subject: Robes Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2056 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Robes Date: 6/15/00 7:25 pm (ET) Hi: I picture cotton for spring/summer and wool for winter. Although one would think that having clothes underneath the robes in the spring/summer might be uncomfortable (even in Britain), even if the robes were cotton. <g> I think of them as akin to academic robes I suppose. Do we think they do always wear clothes under the robes? Sorry -- it's in the 90s here today (as it is from April - Nov) -- that just seems really really uncomfortable to me. Penny From triner2001 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 01:39:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 21:39:00 -0400 Subject: "RealMuggles" Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2057 From: triner2001 Subject: "RealMuggles" Date: 6/15/00 9:39 pm (ET) Hi, y'all! I just discovered this fab club! So glad to find adult fans of all things Potter! If anyone is interested, on the "Unofficial Harry Potter Fan Site" there is a Muggle Sighting page regarding the term Muggle and alternate meanings. There's even a few restaurants and music shops. Looks like Nancy's gonna have her hands full suing everyone who uses the word! Also, I noticed on her website that she said something about the word 'nimbus' being part of her work too. Hmmm...I was under the impression that "NIMBUS" was a cloud! From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 02:45:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:45:00 -0400 Subject: From Corona Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2058 From: darwin_nyc Subject: From Corona Date: 6/15/00 10:45 pm (ET) The last bit sounds interesting. . . June 14, 2000... The Hollywood Reporter says that acclaimed British actress Maggie Smith is in negotiations to play Professor Minerva McGonagall in the Harry Potter film. McGonagall is the deputy headmistress at Harry's school for sorcery. Also mentioned in the Reporter piece is an update on the search for a young actor to play Harry Potter continues; with over 40,000 submissions received and so far just 300 kids that the production has looked closely at, there's still a ways to go before we learn the name of the lucky lad. As well, the production is playing around with the idea of making Harry's arch nemesis, Voldemort, a entirely CGI character in the film! [Scooped by Ken Rocker and Matt Allen; originally appeared in The Hollywood Reporter.] From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 02:46:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:46:00 -0400 Subject: Get that school uniform out... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2059 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Get that school uniform out... Date: 6/15/00 10:46 pm (ET) >From recent Yahoo news: "Publishers Bloomsbury are even keeping the book's title secret before a grand launch for schoolchildren at a London railway station. One platform will be turned into Harry's fictitious platform nine-and-three-quarters." Invariably (and annoyingly) the books are described as being: a - for children b - for children of all ages ... but I'm worried now. Will grown ups be allowed into King's Cross Station on the 8th? I really don't look good in shorts and a blazer. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 02:52:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 22:52:00 -0400 Subject: From Corona Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2060 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: From Corona Reply To: [Yahoo! #2058] From Corona Date: 6/15/00 10:52 pm (ET) I guess that was the thing I saw (see message 1987). I never did find the link... Neil From xiola_hush at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 03:15:00 2000 From: xiola_hush at yahoo.com (xiola_hush) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:15:00 -0400 Subject: hi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2061 From: xiola_hush Subject: hi Date: 6/15/00 11:15 pm (ET) just joined this fantastic club! hi everyone! From alohomora7 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 03:29:00 2000 From: alohomora7 at yahoo.com (alohomora7) Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2000 23:29:00 -0400 Subject: HI!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2062 From: alohomora7 Subject: HI!! Date: 6/15/00 11:29 pm (ET) wazzap!! I'm new!! From Danemead at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 05:47:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 01:47:00 -0400 Subject: Trolls in the Servers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2063 From: Danemead Subject: Trolls in the Servers Date: 6/16/00 1:47 am (ET) Gol Dang! What is up with Yahoo? Took me half the day trying before I could see the recent messages. Welcome to all the new "kids"! From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 07:28:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 03:28:00 -0400 Subject: Trolls in the Servers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2064 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Trolls in the Servers Reply To: [Yahoo! #2063] Trolls in the Servers Date: 6/16/00 3:28 am (ET) <Gol Dang! What is up with Yahoo? Took me half the day trying before I could see the recent messages.> I have, as yet, been unable to view any of the messages that have been posted since my last message! Hello newbies. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 07:32:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 03:32:00 -0400 Subject: Hahhahahhaha! Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2065 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Reply To: [Yahoo! #2051] Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Date: 6/16/00 3:32 am (ET) <I suggest this jokingly really.... *smile* You are probably right Simon....> I like your web page idea - as long as it is done in a constructive way and not just written to slag off Stouffer. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 12:36:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 08:36:00 -0400 Subject: Er... hello? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2066 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Er... hello? Date: 6/16/00 8:36 am (ET) Assuming that Yahoo will eventually get their act together and sort out the gremlins... I've just noticed that in the Yahoo 'Club Spotlight' there's a note, "Harry Potter fever hots up for the summer" and a link to this club! Perhaps that explains the sudden influx of new members and the massive increase in 'page views'. We'd better be careful what we say! Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 12:44:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 08:44:00 -0400 Subject: Er... hello? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2067 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Er... hello? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2066] Er... hello? Date: 6/16/00 8:44 am (ET) <Assuming that Yahoo will eventually get their act together and sort out the gremlins...> I have taken to having the messages e-mailed to me - this seems to be working! <I've just noticed that in the Yahoo 'Club Spotlight' there's a note, "Harry Potter fever hots up for the summer" and a link to this club! Perhaps that explains the sudden influx of new members and the massive increase in 'page views'. We'd better be careful what we say!> We do seem to be very popular at the moment. Lots of messages to read and respond to. Now to work out when to have my tea break to avoid returning and finding 20 new messages have arrived. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 12:55:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 08:55:00 -0400 Subject: It's hopeless! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2068 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: It's hopeless! Date: 6/16/00 8:55 am (ET) I can't open or read anything. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 13:00:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:00:00 -0400 Subject: Welcome to all newbies Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2069 From: babynick34 Subject: Welcome to all newbies Date: 6/16/00 9:00 am (ET) As we have new members... thought I'd greet you all. Hello and welcome Hola y recepci'n Bonjour et bienvenue Hallo und Willkommen Ciao e benvenuto Hello e boa vinda Well, that's a welcome in a few languages! Nick ----------- The International J.K. Rowling Fan Club http://www.broomsticks.org (temp URL: www.nicmit.com) From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 13:11:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:11:00 -0400 Subject: Speaking of robes.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2070 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Speaking of robes.... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2050] Re: Speaking of robes.... Date: 6/16/00 9:11 am (ET) <Are you a Witch too Fawkes?> Yes... Male (Wizard if you like...) After reading HP books, I am liking the Wizard title more and more. Especially since studying more ceremonial. From cateyes589745 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 13:15:00 2000 From: cateyes589745 at yahoo.com (cateyes589745) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 09:15:00 -0400 Subject: Hi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2071 From: cateyes589745 Subject: Hi Date: 6/16/00 9:15 am (ET) Hey I'm new. But i think Griffyindor Rules. From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 14:02:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:02:00 -0400 Subject: Someone message me.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2072 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Someone message me.... Date: 6/16/00 10:02 am (ET) and tell me what to do about yahoo... help!! From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 14:31:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:31:00 -0400 Subject: About Robes Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2073 From: rainy_lilac Subject: About Robes Date: 6/16/00 10:31 am (ET) I just went to the Harvard University commencements awhile back, and spent a lot of time looking at the rich, often very ceremonial looking academic robes people wore, which tended to differ according to their degree. They all had very slight v-necks, intricate gathers and smocking about the yoke, big full sleeves, and hemlines reaching below the knees. Many of them had the crests of their schools sewn on at the collar, at about the height of the adams apple, one on each side. The undergrads wore plain black, but other who had degrees tended to have hoods (decorative and not really functional) of different colors. Doctorates tended to wear red robes with black stripes on the sleeves etc. All of the robes were of light fabric, and many people wore them casually and open as they walked down the street. Back when I was in Britain I noticed that in Oxford, it was still the custom of many to wear light academic robes over ones ordinary clothes for everyday wear. This is sort of what I picture for Hogwarts students. Has anyone foudn any references to other clothing in their reading? Any passing reference to Hermione's sweater, or Harry's trousers? I would be interested..... From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 14:42:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:42:00 -0400 Subject: Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer page Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2074 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer page Date: 6/16/00 10:42 am (ET) There will be no personal insults allowed. We will simply present our argument with the following: A detailed analysis of her claims, and the many discrepancies between her claims and reality. Many of us have already done that-- why not post it as sort of a table? Stouffer's claims on one side, our responses on the other. A link to the Unofficial Harry Potter club's "Muggle Sightings Page" which has an extensive list of all the many uses of the word Muggle. A link to the trademark directory (which is online-- forgot the link) which reveals that there are five different businesses out there pre-dating Stouffer which are using the word Muggle as a trademark. No sign of Stouffer btw. "In Search of Rah and The Muggles": a cool headed and journalistic description of our efforts to find any evidence that Stouffer's works have in fact been published, including documentation that it is not in Books-in-Print or registered with the Library of Congress. Facts only. And to tie it all up, a mission statement of sorts. You can certainly talk about your own feeligns about Stouffer's outrageous and potentially libelous claims and couch your remarks in "I" statements-- which means you are talking about YOUR feelings rather than attacking her. We can wrap it all up with our own pro-HP comments, and our own view of what is really important here. All of this might very well be wasted effort, and i certainly don't want Stouffer to get this idea that she is "important". It is really clear that this is a frivolous lawsuit. I guess I just find frivolous lawsuits to be demeaning. Thoughts? From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 14:49:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:49:00 -0400 Subject: About Robes Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2075 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: About Robes Reply To: [Yahoo! #2073] About Robes Date: 6/16/00 10:49 am (ET) <Back when I was in Britain I noticed that in Oxford, it was still the custom of many to wear light academic robes over ones ordinary clothes for everyday wear. This is sort of what I picture for Hogwarts students.> I feel that I must comment to this. It is likely that the students you saw were in fact off to examinations. It is part of the regulations that people sitting examinations have to go to and from the examination place wearing waht is called sub fusc. Sub fusc comprises of a dark coloured suit for blokes and curiously a white bow tie, white shirt and back skirt for women. On top of this is worn a gown. For plane commoners (like myself) this is just a flimsy piece of material with stupid bit for arms. For scholars (people who do well in their first set of examinations) it is a fairly impressive thing which is how I would imagine a robe to look. Tutors then were more colourful gowns which look even more impressive. The gown are made of a thin material and are not very noticable when being worn. The most impressive sight is to watch someone in full academic dress cycling as the gown billows out behind them - rather as I expect quidditch robes do. I am looking for a web link so you can have a look at the photos but am stuggling to find any! Simon PS: You are allowed to take the suit jacket off when in the exam, especially good in the current hot weather! From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 14:50:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:50:00 -0400 Subject: Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer p Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2076 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer p Reply To: [Yahoo! #2074] Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer page Date: 6/16/00 10:50 am (ET) I think this is a great idea and could even be used as a reference for Scholastic/WB in their defense. Anybody in PA that might be able to find Stouffer's books in a small bookshop? This could help us out knowing what her books are about. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 14:54:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 10:54:00 -0400 Subject: Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer p Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2077 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer p Reply To: [Yahoo! #2074] Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer page Date: 6/16/00 10:54 am (ET) Muggle definitions from the OED. 1) An alleged Kentish word for 'tail'. Hence muggling (also moglynge), a tailed man. 2) Slang: pl. Marijuana; sing. or pl., a marijuana cigarette. Also Comb., as muggle-head, -smoker, one who smokes marijuana; so muggler, a marijuana addict. Maybe the second one explains about those pictures of Stouffer's website! As I posted earlier - no sign of her books in the UK Simon From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 15:03:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:03:00 -0400 Subject: Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer p Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2078 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer p Reply To: [Yahoo! #2077] Re: Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer p Date: 6/16/00 11:03 am (ET) I think this would work best if it was simply cool-headed investigative reporting, combined with our own individual reflections-- and strictly avoids any personal remarks about Stouffer. I think posting a message board would be treacherous-- I could imagine people filling it with insults-- but perhaps we can devise some way for people to "vote" on the issue. I would be fine with a message board with a statement that it is unmoderated and does not necessarily reflect our pov. From lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 15:51:00 2000 From: lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com (lady_emerlyn) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:51:00 -0400 Subject: Speaking of robes.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2079 From: lady_emerlyn Subject: Re: Speaking of robes.... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2040] Speaking of robes.... Date: 6/16/00 11:51 am (ET) As I made my own robe and cape your assumption is both correct and incorrect about these things that we wear- I am much like Hermione being muggle born and the like. Traditional and ritual wear requires tunic like "dress" that should be tied with a belt to hold whatever needs to be there with a cape which should tie or other wise fasten around the neck and be at least tea length. The concept of the pointed hat bothers me too as I look stupid in one. I prefer a cape with a hood or if not that atleast a head dress that is kept on by a crown of some sort, much prettier on the ladies From lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 15:58:00 2000 From: lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com (lady_emerlyn) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 11:58:00 -0400 Subject: Hahhahahhaha! Bimbo! Bimbo! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2080 From: lady_emerlyn Subject: Re: Hahhahahhaha! Bimbo! Bimbo! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2039] Hahhahahhaha! Bimbo! Bimbo! Date: 6/16/00 11:58 am (ET) Now Now calling people names wont solve anything but will nonetheless feel good in the interim. I happen to be in Pa what is going on here that I don't know about and where can I debut my new broomstick? From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 16:00:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:00:00 -0400 Subject: Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer p Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2081 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer p Reply To: [Yahoo! #2078] Re: Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer p Date: 6/16/00 12:00 pm (ET) <but perhaps we can devise some way for people to "vote" on the issue.> If you mean like a poll, there are sites for just that, such as www.MisterPoll.com (which I used for the chat time survey on this list) or the Quiz/Poll Network (which I used for the Prediction Poll on my web site, though I'm afraid I don't have their web address at the moment). I also came across www.freepolls.com, though I haven't tried it out. All of them will set up the polls for you, and give you a link to put in your web site. From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 16:26:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 12:26:00 -0400 Subject: Maybe one of you have the definitive... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2082 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Maybe one of you have the definitive... Date: 6/16/00 12:26 pm (ET) answer to this question of some debate between my friends that I have lent my collection to. The pronounciation of Hermione. It's quite an uncommon name in the states, not sure if it's any more common in the UK. Also, when a British author says a character has a drawl, what accent is she probably refering to? Around the states, a drawl usually is a southern or southeastern American accent. I'm new around here - does Ms. Rowling ever show up on the board here? I am a member of a few other fan clubs that the authors occasionally find their way to... Thanks in advance, Jarnor23 From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 17:21:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:21:00 -0400 Subject: Golden Ticket Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2083 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Golden Ticket Reply To: [Yahoo! #2054] Golden Ticket Date: 6/16/00 1:21 pm (ET) Read about the "Golden Ticket" on CNN http://www.cnn.com/2000/books/news/06/15/arts.potter.reut/index.html From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 17:42:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:42:00 -0400 Subject: Maybe one of you have the definitive Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2084 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Reply To: [Yahoo! #2082] Maybe one of you have the definitive... Date: 6/16/00 1:42 pm (ET) Finally, I've managed to access all the new messages, and now I have to dash off for a 'meeting'. A belated hello to the new members. I can confirm that Hermione is quite a rare name, especially for a teenager, but probably marginally more common in the UK than the US. It's pronounced Her-MY-on-ee. A drawl refers to a slow, drawn-out, deliberate way of speaking. Now, I'd better go... Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 17:43:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:43:00 -0400 Subject: Okay, one more thing... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2085 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Okay, one more thing... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2081] Re: Okay seriously: a counter-Stouffer p Date: 6/16/00 1:43 pm (ET) Why don't we ask Nancy Stouffer where we can get a copy of her book? Presumably, somewhere other than a cardboard box in her attic. Neil Really going now. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 17:45:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:45:00 -0400 Subject: Maybe one of you have the definitive Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2086 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Reply To: [Yahoo! #2082] Maybe one of you have the definitive... Date: 6/16/00 1:45 pm (ET) <answer to this question of some debate between my friends that I have lent my collection to. The pronounciation of Hermione. It's quite an uncommon name in the states, not sure if it's any more common in the UK.> Her-my-oh-nee I have a friend with that name. Scholastic have a pronounciation guide for some words - http://www.scholastic.com - and then follow the links. Simon From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 17:46:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:46:00 -0400 Subject: Maybe one of you have the definitive Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2087 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Reply To: [Yahoo! #2082] Maybe one of you have the definitive... Date: 6/16/00 1:46 pm (ET) <<answer to this question of some debate between my friends that I have lent my collection to. The pronounciation of Hermione.>> It's pronounced "her-my-uh-nee" with the accent on the "my" and the "uh" is more of a schwa sound. From blue_m_m14 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 17:58:00 2000 From: blue_m_m14 at yahoo.com (blue_m_m14) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 13:58:00 -0400 Subject: debate Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2088 From: blue_m_m14 Subject: debate Date: 6/16/00 1:58 pm (ET) Hello...i am new to this club...what is the debate about?? From Danemead at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 18:04:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:04:00 -0400 Subject: Stouffer the Cat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2089 From: Danemead Subject: Stouffer the Cat Date: 6/16/00 2:04 pm (ET) Dang, Neil! That is one scary looking cat! Thanks for posting this photo -- it sure made me smile. Now you say this thing is manipulated from behind? I have a very sick image in my head... Does it just miaow or does it have a standup comedy routine? URF!! From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 18:17:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:17:00 -0400 Subject: debate Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2090 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: debate Reply To: [Yahoo! #2088] debate Date: 6/16/00 2:17 pm (ET) A "person" named Nancy Stouffer is sueing Scholastic, WB and JK Rowling for what she refers to as "copyright" or "trademark" infringement. See her site for details: http://www.realmuggles.com/ We are trying to help Scolastic/JKR by showing that these so-called muggle books are not easily found and there is no copywrite or trademark infringement. It appears that Stouffer is simply jealous of the quality and success of JKR's work. From rc_collin_s at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 18:18:00 2000 From: rc_collin_s at yahoo.com (rc_collin_s) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 14:18:00 -0400 Subject: preview on the newest book Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2091 From: rc_collin_s Subject: preview on the newest book Date: 6/16/00 2:18 pm (ET) I've found this link to a preview of the next book. check it out. thanks a bunch. http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/jasonleeandsomuchmore From morrigan09 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 19:18:00 2000 From: morrigan09 at yahoo.com (morrigan09) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 15:18:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2092 From: morrigan09 Subject: Hagrid Reply To: [Yahoo! #32] Re: Snape Date: 6/16/00 3:18 pm (ET) 12 feet tall? Where did you hear that? Did JKR say it? Please tell me, I was wondering about Hagrid From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 20:42:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:42:00 -0400 Subject: Have you heard about the new flavor of Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2093 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Have you heard about the new flavor of Date: 6/16/00 4:42 pm (ET) Bertie Bott's Every Flavour Bean? It's flavored like the "realMuggles" look, it's butthead flavored. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 20:58:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 16:58:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2094 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Hermione Date: 6/16/00 4:58 pm (ET) Yahoo playing up again, so sorry for the new post rather than a reply. If you want to hear how Jo say's Hermione's name, I have a WAV file available. It's at: http://www.nicmit.com/year1/hermionegranger.html Nick From pt4ever at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 21:29:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 17:29:00 -0400 Subject: Golden Ticket Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2095 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Golden Ticket Reply To: [Yahoo! #2083] Re: Golden Ticket Date: 6/16/00 5:29 pm (ET) Wow! I've never seen a picture of J.K. Rowling before, but she's gorgeous!!! As to the anti-Stouffer webpage(s), I'll gladly donate space on my Geocities page, if it's needed. I agree that saying nasty things about her will just display immaturity. Trying to logically disprove her claims is a much better idea. -- JoAnna From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 22:43:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 18:43:00 -0400 Subject: Yahoo is shit... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2096 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Yahoo is shit... Date: 6/16/00 6:43 pm (ET) and I am in one foul mood!!! From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 22:45:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 18:45:00 -0400 Subject: Hahhahahhaha! Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2097 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Reply To: [Yahoo! #2045] Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Date: 6/16/00 6:45 pm (ET) >Does anybody have copies of Nancy's work? NO ONE has any copies of her work, because it has never really been published. She claims it was published by a small publishing firm which has since closed down, but it is hard to believe. I think maybe she *published* it herself at her local Kinkos. It is not listed in the Library of Congress catalog. All publishers in the U.S. are required to send 2 copies of all copyrighted material to the Library of Congress. Legally, in the U.S., anything you write is automatically copyrighted but unless you register the copyright and send copies to the LOC it is virtually impossible to protect yourself. I find this women to be totally despicable. The only connection I find between her and Harry Potter is the phony interview on her website - she clearly *interviewed* herself - which reminds me of Gilderoy Lockhart. From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 22:48:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 18:48:00 -0400 Subject: Hahhahahhaha! Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2098 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Reply To: [Yahoo! #2049] Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Date: 6/16/00 6:48 pm (ET) Rainy Lilac wrote: >She is not even registered with the libray of congress. By law, a copy of everything published in the US has to go there. My theory is that her books were self published-- runn off and Kinko's and marketed out of the back seat of her car. I posted my last message before reading the above. Interesting that Rainy Lilac and thought exactly the same thing. Either great minds think alike, or this Stouffer bimbo is so full of it that it is incredibly obvious what her methods are, or both. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 22:52:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 18:52:00 -0400 Subject: Yahoo is shit... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2099 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Yahoo is shit... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2096] Yahoo is shit... Date: 6/16/00 6:52 pm (ET) ...oh, NOW it's back up again NOW it's decided to work okay... grrrrrr!!! Just don't ask me about Nancy effing Stouffer while I'm in this state of mind! Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 22:58:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 18:58:00 -0400 Subject: Stouffer the Cat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2100 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Stouffer the Cat Reply To: [Yahoo! #2089] Stouffer the Cat Date: 6/16/00 6:58 pm (ET) Thanks for asking (I've calmed down now). Stouffer is badly-made blue rubber cat which sits on a red velvet, gilded throne. Harry Hill has his hand inside the puppet and does the 'voice', but he's fooling nobody, since he deliberately makes no attempt at illusion. An acquired taste, but it has to be seen... Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 16 23:53:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 19:53:00 -0400 Subject: Jo Rowling OBE! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2101 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Jo Rowling OBE! Date: 6/16/00 7:53 pm (ET) Jo Rowling has has received an OBE from the Queen in the latest honours list. Neil Note: OBE = Order of the British Empire From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 00:13:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 20:13:00 -0400 Subject: JKR OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2102 From: plinsenmayer Subject: RE: JKR OBE Date: 6/16/00 8:13 pm (ET) Hi: <Rowling has received OBE> Order of the British Empire??? Can you provide further details of what this is and what it means for us Yanks? All I could find on the web was a description of the OBE medal, pre and post 1937, and a brief history indicating that it was a military award originally instituted in 1917 for WWI service. I gather it has evolved into something more than just military honors. Can you elaborate? Thanks! I'm getting emails but I can see that navigating the homepage is problematic today. Yahoo has bouts of this -- hopefully it will be better tomorrow. Penny From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 01:52:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:52:00 -0400 Subject: Harry fan Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2103 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Harry fan Date: 6/16/00 9:52 pm (ET) i am so glad i found this group! i doubt i classify as an adult, as i'm only 16, and without the F7 button, i am sure there will be a ton of typos in this message. so pleased i could find other harry potter fans, who actually like harry hill to (in reference to stouffer posts) - all my friends say i am really sad, but it is an excellent book. i originally got the first two on tape as i was ill, and couldn't read to see. stephen fry made an excellent book brilliant on tape. i had to order the books and have just read the third - escape from askaban, and ordered the fourth from alphabetsreet.com - does anyone know what it is called? so glad i found this group nicholas From Danemead at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 01:57:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 21:57:00 -0400 Subject: OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2104 From: Danemead Subject: RE: OBE Date: 6/16/00 9:57 pm (ET) Gad - I thought you were going to say she had an Out of Body Experience (OBE)! (SSIH - Smacking Self in Head). All kidding aside, this is great news - I think she should also get the Order of Merlin, First Class, for demonstration of outstanding magical abilities in the field of fiction! From estesrandy at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 02:33:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 22:33:00 -0400 Subject: Book One Anagrams Answers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2105 From: estesrandy Subject: Book One Anagrams Answers Date: 6/16/00 10:33 pm (ET) It appears that Simon has figured out the anagrams again, but he said that he has a backlog of potions to mix up for Professor Snape and is unable to create a new quiz activity. I believe that someone called pt4ever has an idea for a new activity. Whoever it was, please come forward and provide us with much needed mind puzzlers. Anyway, the answers to the Book One Anagrams is posted Below: Anagrams 1. Rent Her Hardy Teapot's corner Stores 2. Porn Requires Bar Sluts- ROFL 3. Wealthy Sweet Sin 4. Queen Mothers Partner in Lard Fat 5. Little Boy needs a shovel 6. Gracey Elbo Band 7. See Mrs. Potato Thin 8. Etch Color of Gas 9. Brave Boys Battle is net Forever 10. What if Cement was Hot Answers : 1. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone 2. Professor Quirrell's Turban 3. The Weasley Twins 4. Platform Nine and Three Quarters 5. Neville the Toadless Boy 6. Crabbe and Goyle 7. The Potions Master 8. Chocolate Frogs 9. Bertie Bott's Every Flavor Beans 10. The Man with Two Faces I guess number two should be Bar Slut instead of Bar Sluts because there are one too many s's. I guess I just got so tickled with that one that I goofed up. I guess Porn only really needs one. Anyway, Pt4ever please create a new game wherever you are! From sheilaneilaweila at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 03:14:00 2000 From: sheilaneilaweila at yahoo.com (sheilaneilaweila) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:14:00 -0400 Subject: Make $20 an hour Minimum! Free sign up! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2106 From: sheilaneilaweila Subject: Make $20 an hour Minimum! Free sign up! Date: 6/16/00 11:14 pm (ET) Make $20 an hour viewing internet ads. Minimum! No referrals needed! Sign up today at... http://www.bepaid.com/users.rhtml?REFID=10460505 From davehoz at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 03:36:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:36:00 -0400 Subject: Maybe one of you have the definitive Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2107 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Reply To: [Yahoo! #2082] Maybe one of you have the definitive... Date: 6/16/00 11:36 pm (ET) Jim Dale on the tapes of the books says "Her-MI-nee" and the great British actress Hermione Gingold said, "Her-MI-nah". Both of these are acceptable I think. "Her-mi-ON-nee" or any four-syllable variation is definitely wrong. As for a drawl, I think it means a slurring of words as Dale does for Draco's lines, e.g. "Gaaawwwd, this place is goin' to the dawwwgs!" From davehoz at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 03:46:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2000 23:46:00 -0400 Subject: Golden Ticket Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2108 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Golden Ticket Reply To: [Yahoo! #2095] Re: Golden Ticket Date: 6/16/00 11:46 pm (ET) >Wow! I've never seen a picture of J.K. Rowling before, but she's gorgeous!!! I love the picture of her from People's "People of 1999" issue. She was dressed in Gryffindor-red robes. (If it had been blue I would have thought she was Rowena Ravenclaw.) Does anyone have a scan of that they could post in the photos area? (In return, I'll post a photo of a *real* basilisk!) From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 05:15:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 01:15:00 -0400 Subject: Maybe one of you have the definitive Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2109 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Reply To: [Yahoo! #2107] Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Date: 6/17/00 1:15 am (ET) >>Jim Dale on the tapes of the books says "Her-MI-nee" and the great British actress Hermione Gingold said, "Her-MI-nah". Both of these are acceptable I think. "Her-mi-ON-nee" or any four-syllable variation is definitely wrong.<< I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one. J.K. Rowling herself has told people in interviews that it's pronounced with four syllables. And I've listened to blurbs (from RandomHouse Audio Books site) of the books-on-tape, and Jim Dale just sounds like he's running the syllables together more than leaving one out. (In college, I had to listen to countless tapes of people speaking in order to write them down phonetically - I'm positive of this one.) Jen From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 06:53:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 02:53:00 -0400 Subject: Book One Anagrams Answers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2110 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Book One Anagrams Answers Reply To: [Yahoo! #2105] Book One Anagrams Answers Date: 6/17/00 2:53 am (ET) Thanks for putting me out of my misery on that one. I just couldn't get 5 and 10! Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 06:58:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 02:58:00 -0400 Subject: Maybe one of you have the definitive Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2111 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Reply To: [Yahoo! #2107] Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Date: 6/17/00 2:58 am (ET) It is definitely somethingf along the lines of Her-my-oh-nee. JKR has said something like this and it is how my friend with this name said to pronounce it. Drawl - speak lazily or with drawn-out vowel sounds. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 07:00:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 03:00:00 -0400 Subject: Book One Anagrams Answers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2112 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Book One Anagrams Answers Reply To: [Yahoo! #2105] Book One Anagrams Answers Date: 6/17/00 3:00 am (ET) <I guess number two should be Bar Slut instead of Bar Sluts because there are one too many s's. I guess I just got so tickled with that one that I goofed up. I guess Porn only really needs one.> No bar sluts is right, two 's' in professor and one for Quirell's. That makes three as required. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 07:04:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 03:04:00 -0400 Subject: JKR OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2113 From: hert0661 Subject: RE: JKR OBE Reply To: [Yahoo! #2102] RE: JKR OBE Date: 6/17/00 3:04 am (ET) Try the following news item. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/in_depth/uk/2000/birthday_honours_2000/newsid_7 92000/792498.stm It seems to give a good indication of the British honours system. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 07:49:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 03:49:00 -0400 Subject: Maybe one of you have the definitive Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2114 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Reply To: [Yahoo! #2111] Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Date: 6/17/00 3:49 am (ET) "Her-mi-ON-nee" or any four-syllable variation is definitely wrong. I still think most people would pronounce it as four syllables, the middle two flowing together with a slight inflection. Some, like Jim Dale, would make the middle two syllables sound almost like one. Can we agree on three and a half syllables? (or three and three-quarters...<g>) It's a bit like my name, Neil. It has one and half syllables and most people pronounce it 'NEE-ul', but some would say 'NEEEL' because of their accent (Irish people, for example) while others would say something a bit like 'NIL' (Cockney Londoners, for example - Jim Dale is in that vicinity, which may be why he says 'Her-MI-nee'). In some languages, the last syllable of Hermione would be pronounced short ('uh'), as Hermione Gingold apparently said it. Although she was English, her father was Austrian, which might explain her Germanic pronunciation of her name (useless fact #37 - her middle name was Ferdinanda). NEE-ul From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 07:54:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 03:54:00 -0400 Subject: JKR OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2115 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: RE: JKR OBE Reply To: [Yahoo! #2113] RE: JKR OBE Date: 6/17/00 3:54 am (ET) So, it's actually 'Officer of the Order of the British Empire'. I was nearly right! Neil From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 08:57:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 04:57:00 -0400 Subject: Harry fan Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2116 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Harry fan Reply To: [Yahoo! #2103] Harry fan Date: 6/17/00 4:57 am (ET) Hi Nicholas, welcome to the group. At 16, I'd say you do fall into the adult category, as the book publishers seem to think the books are for children aged 9-12 years. Do we know the title of book 4... well, some of us have been told the title by a source. However, it would be very wrong of us to post it here. Nick (also another Nicholas, but I prefer being called Nick). From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 11:54:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 07:54:00 -0400 Subject: Maybe one of you have the definitive Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2117 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Reply To: [Yahoo! #2114] Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Date: 6/17/00 7:54 am (ET) i think anything is better than how my friends brother pronounced it... Her-mee-one lol has anyone heard about JK Rowling being sued by someone? what for? what book has she supposedly copied? btw, i don't believe she did... nicholas From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 13:46:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 09:46:00 -0400 Subject: Maybe one of you have the definitive Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2118 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Reply To: [Yahoo! #2117] Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Date: 6/17/00 9:46 am (ET) <i think anything is better than how my friends brother pronounced it... Her-mee-one> Her-mee-one-kenobi Another Star Wars reference! <has anyone heard about JK Rowling being sued by someone? what for? what book has she supposedly copied? btw, i don't believe she did...> You'll be looking for any of the posts on Stouffer! JKR (OBE) has supposedly copied characters and words from Stouffer. The fact that these books never seem to have existed or been opublished and if they have then only in USA doesn't seem to come into it. Also lots of Stouffer's claims are pretty vague. Like Hogwarts being a castle with a great hall for eating in and a lake outside.... Simon PS: Hello Nicholas (I know this should have been nearer the beginning - but it is the thought that counts!) From katewinslet77 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 14:01:00 2000 From: katewinslet77 at yahoo.com (katewinslet77) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 10:01:00 -0400 Subject: Simply Kate Winslet Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2119 From: katewinslet77 Subject: Simply Kate Winslet Date: 6/17/00 10:01 am (ET) Come and join or look at my dedicatory Kate Winslet club it is the biggest on Yahoo and has the largest selection of photos as well at: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/simplykatewinslet From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 14:45:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 10:45:00 -0400 Subject: Simply Kate Winslet Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2120 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Simply Kate Winslet Reply To: [Yahoo! #2119] Simply Kate Winslet Date: 6/17/00 10:45 am (ET) Surely Kate Winslet is not going to be considered for the movie... she's too much of 'mummys girl'. Nick. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 14:58:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 10:58:00 -0400 Subject: New members Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2121 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: New members Date: 6/17/00 10:58 am (ET) Welcome to all 30 new members, including Nicholas, the Kate Winslet fan who got off the train at the wrong station, and the woman offering us $20 an hour for something-or-other. Nicholas, in answer to your question, there are children of all ages, but there are also grown ups of all ages! I'm Zaineb Badawi. From Five896 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 15:20:00 2000 From: Five896 at yahoo.com (Five896) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 11:20:00 -0400 Subject: rumor Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2122 From: Five896 Subject: rumor Date: 6/17/00 11:20 am (ET) hi everyone, I hope at 18 (almost anyway) I qualify as an adult and can be here. ;-) I was just wondering if anyone else can confirm this rumor. I work at a library part-time, and have heard from other employees there that the title of the new book will be 'Harry Potter and the Doomspell Tournament'. Now, I've also read that that the title is being kept completely secret and barely anybody knows it. Are my co-workers crazy, or are we onto something? From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 15:34:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 11:34:00 -0400 Subject: Maybe one of you have the definitive Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2123 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Reply To: [Yahoo! #2114] Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Date: 6/17/00 11:34 am (ET) I think Hermione is one of those names with more than one correct pronounciation. Take my name, for example. I pronounce it like Melanie Griffith and the "Gone With the Wind" character: MEL-uh-nee (where Mel is a natural nickname). But I seem to remember an All My Children character with my name, who pronounced it mel-LAY-nee (and used Lanie for a nickname). Another example I used a few months ago was Bette. Is it pronounced like Betty (as in Davis) or Bet (as in Midler)? From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 15:42:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 11:42:00 -0400 Subject: rumor Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2124 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: rumor Reply To: [Yahoo! #2122] rumor Date: 6/17/00 11:42 am (ET) It looks like it's unlikely to be "...Doomspell Tournament". JK Rowling has, reportedly, said that that is not the title of book 4. But we'll know for sure on 8th July! Neil From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 16:43:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 12:43:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione Pronounciation Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2125 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Hermione Pronounciation Reply To: [Yahoo! #2123] Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Date: 6/17/00 12:43 pm (ET) Hi: Having just wended my way through 3 separate freeway closures whilst listening to PoA tapes (thank god!), I wanted to comment on this whole pronounciation issue. Jim Dale's version has *always* sounded to me like he's saying Her-mon-knee (mon rhyming with Ron) or Her-ma-knee (as in Ma -- American colloquial term for mother/mom/mum what have you). I've been told by Voicelady that Jim Dale is just running the 2 middle syllables together with a schwaa or something, but it still sounds like Her-mon-knee to this southern ear. It sounds like JKR uses the same pronounciation as Jim Dale from listening to Nick's voice clip. This was surprising to me, since I'd read some interview transcript with her where she'd said it should be pronounced Her-my-oh-knee. And, maybe that's what she's doing but it sounds like 3 syllables if she's running the my-oh syllables together. I will probably continue to just think & say Her-mon-knee as it's easiest. <g> Penny From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 17:15:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 13:15:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione Pronounciation Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2126 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Hermione Pronounciation Reply To: [Yahoo! #2125] Hermione Pronounciation Date: 6/17/00 1:15 pm (ET) Glad you made it through the jams Penny. >It sounds like JKR uses the same pronounciation as Jim Dale from listening to Nick's voice clip. For newbies and anyone who missed it... the voice clips are at: http://www.broomsticks.org/year1/hermionegranger.html >This was surprising to me, since I'd read some interview transcript with her where she'd said it should be pronounced Her-my-oh-knee. Her-my-ohnee perhaps. >And, maybe that's what she's doing but it sounds like 3 syllables if she's running the my-oh syllables together. This is a tricky one isn't it... maybe I need to play with the audio editing software to see if the voice can be slowed down. Nick. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 18:21:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:21:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione Pronounciation Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2127 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Hermione Pronounciation Reply To: [Yahoo! #2126] Re: Hermione Pronounciation Date: 6/17/00 2:21 pm (ET) Amazing isn't it, that with all the rich language in the Harry Potter books, we debate a single word! I finally plugged my speakers in and listened to the sample on Nick's site. With her fairly 'proper' English accent, Jo says Hermione roughly as I would say it, and she is saying Her-my-ohnee to my ears. However, American English tends to lengthen vowel sounds, so I can see where the confusion lies. I imagine most Americans, for example, would pronounce Ron as R-ah-n rather than Ron with a shorter vowel sound? Is this making any sense? Probably not! Neil From estesrandy at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 18:48:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:48:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2128 From: estesrandy Subject: Hermione Date: 6/17/00 2:48 pm (ET) You say Her My Nee and I say Her My On Nee. You say Tomato and I say Tomaaato Tomato, Tomaaato Her My Nee, Her My On Nee. Let's call the whole thing off! Sorry I just couldn't resist. The song just kept playing in my head! By the way, it occurs to me that the battle between Arthur Weasley and Lucius Malfoy has just begun. Isn't Arthur looking for Wizards storing items for Black Magic? And I believe Lucius Malfoy has the motherload of bad stuff tucked away in his basement. Let's hope Arthur can nail him on something in the next book! Regarding the accent of Hagrid... As far as I am concerned he has a Scottish Brogue. You can make tapes and movies all you like, but it's etched into me mind now. Ef yee giv me eny moooore greeeef abooot it, I'll zap a Pig's tail on yer behind !! It's like saying you can make Roger Moore and other actors into James Bond instantly and not still have the image of Sean Connery as James Bond etched into your mind as the "REAL James Bond" forever. That's why books are more powerful than movies because they use your own imagination !!!! There, I feel much better now !! From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 18:55:00 2000 From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (DaughteroftheDust) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 14:55:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid...What House was he in?? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2129 From: DaughteroftheDust Subject: Hagrid...What House was he in?? Date: 6/17/00 2:55 pm (ET) I'm just curious...Personally I think it was Hufflepuff...He's a kindly, serving, and loyal type a guy. From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 19:01:00 2000 From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (DaughteroftheDust) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:01:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione and Love... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2130 From: DaughteroftheDust Subject: Hermione and Love... Date: 6/17/00 3:01 pm (ET) I have the sneaking suspiscion, her love interest will end up being Ron Weasley...Why? you may ask...Well, he picks at her the most...Though he likes her as a friend, he can't stand her perfectionism, and goody-goody ways. They argue all the time. Need I say more? Harry will end up with either the Ravenclaw seeker, Cho Chang or Ron's little sister. In both cases, one party has already found the other party attractive...;-) From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 19:28:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:28:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione and Love... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2131 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Hermione and Love... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2130] Hermione and Love... Date: 6/17/00 3:28 pm (ET) I think Ron will fall in love with Hermione, but I don't really know about what her feelings will be. I predict that Harry will have an unrequited crush on Cho. Besides Ginny, I wonder who else will have their cap set for Harry? *grin* From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 19:41:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:41:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione and Love... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2132 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Hermione and Love... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2131] Re: Hermione and Love... Date: 6/17/00 3:41 pm (ET) Hi: Couldn't resist weighing in on this topic . . . <g> <I think Ron will fall in love with Hermione, but I don't really know about what her feelings will be.> Well . . . there are clues in each book that *her* heart may be set on Harry, even though it certainly has every appearance that Ron is the one with the potential crush on her. I see the possibility for love and betrayal among the 3-some. <I predict that Harry will have an unrequited crush on Cho. Besides Ginny, I wonder who else will have their cap set for Harry?> Well, JKR has said that they will all 3 fall for the wrong person in Book 4 and it certainly appears that Harry is set up to have some sort of crush on Cho in Book 4. But, alas for Ms. Chong, it seems she is destined to be his "Ms. Wrong" (hey that rhymes and I didn't even *intend* that!). If you want to read a really great fanfic that has an adult Harry/Hermione relationship (I know *you're* hooked Suzanne) -- read Paradigm of Uncertainty (ParadigmOfUncertainty is an egroups.com listserve). You can read archived chapters and posts at that site (and subscribe for subsequent posts & commentary should you enjoy it). Alot of us are pretty hooked on the story . . . Penny From triner2001 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 19:57:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 15:57:00 -0400 Subject: Maybe one of you have the definitive Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2133 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Maybe one of you have the definitive Reply To: [Yahoo! #2082] Maybe one of you have the definitive... Date: 6/17/00 3:57 pm (ET) Many people have wondered! I saw an interview with Jo and she provided the answer. Her-my-uh-nee Hope this helps! From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 20:14:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:14:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione and Love... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2134 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Hermione and Love... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2132] Re: Hermione and Love... Date: 6/17/00 4:14 pm (ET) We've been into this topic before but I can't resist. The kids teasing each other and yet falling in love is an ancient cliche. I'd like to think Rowling could do better but I'll forgive her this one. I think Harry will run through about three romances... one per book... before settling on Miss Right. My guess is Ginny Weasley. From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 20:16:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:16:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid...What House was he in?? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2135 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Hagrid...What House was he in?? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2129] Hagrid...What House was he in?? Date: 6/17/00 4:16 pm (ET) I agree; The guy has Hufflepuff written all over him. I think he may also be Gryffindor, as he is also very brave (especially when it comes to "interesting creatures"). He also cheers on Gryffindor at Quidditch, even when they're playing Hufflepuff. But then, that may be because of Harry. Would his loyalty be to his old house, or to Harry's current one (if they're not the same)? On my web site, I have him listed as both a possible Gryffindor and a possible Hufflepuff. I can't see him as a Slytherin or a Ravenclaw, however. I've often wondered something about the scene where Harry (after meeting Draco) asks Hagrid about the houses. Hagrid says something to the effect of "People say the Hufflepuffs are a lot of duffers, but..." Harry interrupts him with "I bet I'm in Hufflepuff." I've often wondered what Hagrid had been about to say. Was it just something in their defense or was he also about to say he'd been one? From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 20:39:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:39:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione and Love... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2136 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Hermione and Love... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2134] Re: Hermione and Love... Date: 6/17/00 4:39 pm (ET) The only reason I question Ginny is that her interest in Harry seems to have disappeare in Book 3.... I suspect Harry is the kind of guy who will be an utter heart throb when he is and adult but is condemned to be quite gawky and unsure of himself as a teenager..... From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 21:30:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 17:30:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione and Love... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2137 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Hermione and Love... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2136] Re: Hermione and Love... Date: 6/17/00 5:30 pm (ET) I think Hermione will have a crush on someone older. After all, she went all moony-eyed about Gilderoy Lockhart in CoS. Don't ask me who though - perhaps one of the Weasley twins, so they can have some fun pretending to be each other? Also, as Oliver Wood must have been in his 7th year in Prisoner of Azkaban, there will be space on on the Gryffindor Quidditch team. I think whoever takes that place will be the temporary love interest for one of the three main characters. Either a new character, or a previously minor character, like Parvati. One of them is bound to fall for a really appealing 'one-book' character who turns out to be corrupt, or a scary monster, at the end. Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 21:57:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 17:57:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione and Love... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2138 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Hermione and Love... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2136] Re: Hermione and Love... Date: 6/17/00 5:57 pm (ET) I can't see Harry getting a decent girlfriend before the series of books finish. This is unless Ron dies and then he and Hermione get together. I do not see a H&H romance while Ron is still around. No to Ginny and Hsrry, do not know why but I am dead against this! Simon From biteback_2000 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 22:00:00 2000 From: biteback_2000 at yahoo.com (biteback_2000) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:00:00 -0400 Subject: when is book 4 out? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2139 From: biteback_2000 Subject: when is book 4 out? Date: 6/17/00 6:00 pm (ET) i have only been intrested in harry potter a while but love it. i will be first in line to buy it when book 4 comes out. i want to know when it is out in ireland? it is huge there. From biteback_2000 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 22:04:00 2000 From: biteback_2000 at yahoo.com (biteback_2000) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:04:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione and Love... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2140 From: biteback_2000 Subject: Re: Hermione and Love... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2138] Re: Hermione and Love... Date: 6/17/00 6:04 pm (ET) here is what COULD happen. harry & herminone are alone. ron is not there.he is going out with herminone. then somebody tells them about rons death. they are devstated.he was killed by voldemort says dumbledore. @ rons funeral harry & herminone kiss.then mrs. weasly comes in. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 22:09:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:09:00 -0400 Subject: Book One Anagrams Answers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2141 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Book One Anagrams Answers Reply To: [Yahoo! #2105] Book One Anagrams Answers Date: 6/17/00 6:09 pm (ET) >>> Anyway, Pt4ever please create a new game wherever you are! >>> *raises her hand* That would be me, and I do have a new activity in mind! I'll get it out ASAP! :) -- JoAnna From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 22:13:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:13:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione and Love... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2142 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Hermione and Love... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2138] Re: Hermione and Love... Date: 6/17/00 6:13 pm (ET) Hi: <No to Ginny and Hsrry, do not know why but I am dead against this!> I can tell you why *I'm* set against this. First, because Ginny is not (at least at this point) a strong enough character to be the eventual love interest of the hero. She's described as whiny in Book 1, a victim in Book 2 and barely has 10 lines in Book 3. *How* can she be an appropriate romantic partner for Harry? Second, I'm in favor of an H/H relationship (thanks to Paradigm of Uncertainty). In contrast to Ginny, Hermione can hold her own with Harry and is clearly a strong enough person to be his love interest. My $.02 -- Penny From pt4ever at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 22:15:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 18:15:00 -0400 Subject: New Activity!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2143 From: pt4ever Subject: New Activity!! Date: 6/17/00 6:15 pm (ET) It's the Harry Potter Crossword Puzzle! To do it, you need to go to: http://www.geocities.com/pt4ever/hpstart.html Have fun! Answers should be sent to pt4ever at yahoo.com -- JoAnna From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 23:30:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:30:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione and Love... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2144 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Hermione and Love... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2140] Re: Hermione and Love... Date: 6/17/00 7:30 pm (ET) <@ rons funeral harry & herminone kiss.then mrs. weasly comes in.> You honestly believe that they might kiss at his *funeral*???? That would be so completely out of character . . . not to mention that I cannot fathom the circumstances in which Rowling would write such a crass scene. From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 23:48:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:48:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione and Love... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2145 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Hermione and Love... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2144] Re: Hermione and Love... Date: 6/17/00 7:48 pm (ET) hi i just became a member and i'd like to say i love harry potter books! (umm on another note you might see my profiles alittle messed up thats because i rpging in other clubs... ) hermione and love.... hmmmm..... it seems that its a fight between harry and ron for hermione i can more she her with harry but ron stands a good chance... if not he (ron) could get Parvati Patil, in book 3 J.K Rowling hinted at it when she wrote in professor trelawney said " 'By the way my dear,' she shot suddeny at Parvati Patil, 'beware a red haired man.' " so i think that hints that parvati we some how play a part with ron in one of the next books... From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 23:51:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:51:00 -0400 Subject: Still Wondering About OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2146 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Still Wondering About OBE Date: 6/17/00 7:51 pm (ET) Hi: Did I miss an explanation from one of our UK members re: the meaning of OBE, or are we still waiting? (hint, hint) <g> Yahoo has been so nuts lately that the explanatory message may have just not been delivered to me. Penny From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Sat Jun 17 23:57:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 19:57:00 -0400 Subject: when is book 4 out? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2147 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: when is book 4 out? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2139] when is book 4 out? Date: 6/17/00 7:57 pm (ET) ireland? i love ireland! of couse i've never being there but i still think its one of the best places on the planet! do i know when book four is out? in canada/U.S.A its out in july 8 (or around that date..) but in ireland... hmmm i'd say a month or two after that so mabey the start of school for you guys... mabey From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 00:00:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 20:00:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione Pronounciation Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2148 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Hermione Pronounciation Reply To: [Yahoo! #2125] Hermione Pronounciation Date: 6/17/00 8:00 pm (ET) speaking of vocie clips... if you have napster you can screah for harry potter and it will bring up chapters the someones downloaded onto the ciomputer couse its voice recorded and it doesn't get all of the chapter and the pronounciation (in my opion) is way off but still From sacred_moon19 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 01:18:00 2000 From: sacred_moon19 at yahoo.com (sacred_moon19) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 21:18:00 -0400 Subject: new member Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2149 From: sacred_moon19 Subject: new member Date: 6/17/00 9:18 pm (ET) Hi, I am new to this club. Harry potter is one of the best books I have read since Interview with Vampire. I am glad to see that there others that have the same interest as I. Tonia From coihueco at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 02:47:00 2000 From: coihueco at yahoo.com (coihueco) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 22:47:00 -0400 Subject: Still Wondering About OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2150 From: coihueco Subject: Re: Still Wondering About OBE Reply To: [Yahoo! #2146] Still Wondering About OBE Date: 6/17/00 10:47 pm (ET) Penny, OBE stands for Order of the British Empire. It is a knightship granted by her Royal Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. From davehoz at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 03:25:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 23:25:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione and Love... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2151 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Hermione and Love... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2136] Re: Hermione and Love... Date: 6/17/00 11:25 pm (ET) >The only reason I question Ginny is that her interest in Harry seems to have disappeare in Book 3.... Remember the scene where Ginny gives him a "Get Well" card and blushes? I think it's clear she still likes him, it's just that JKR pretty much ignored her in book 3. Someone on Jenna's message board pointed out that if we're going to take Ginny seriously as a potential life partner for Harry, JKR's *got* to develop her character in Book 4. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 03:47:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 23:47:00 -0400 Subject: Still Wondering About OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2152 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Still Wondering About OBE Reply To: [Yahoo! #2150] Re: Still Wondering About OBE Date: 6/17/00 11:47 pm (ET) Hi: <OBE stands for Order of the British Empire. It is a knightship granted by her Royal Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.> Well, I knew what it stood for -- what I was wondering is more whether it is still a military honor -- seems it originated as a military honor for WWI service (or at least that's all I've been able to find out about it online). Just wondering more specific info -- how often is it awarded (annually?), to how many recipients in general, would it be common to bestow it on an author, etc. Thanks though -- Penny From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 04:28:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 00:28:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione and Love... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2153 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Hermione and Love... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2151] Re: Hermione and Love... Date: 6/18/00 12:28 am (ET) <Someone on Jenna's message board pointed out that if we're going to take Ginny seriously as a potential life partner for Harry, JKR's *got* to develop her character in Book 4. > And that may yet happen.... Especially now that there will be a lot of hormones rushing about! From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 07:28:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 03:28:00 -0400 Subject: Still Wondering About OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2154 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Still Wondering About OBE Reply To: [Yahoo! #2146] Still Wondering About OBE Date: 6/18/00 3:28 am (ET) Hi Penny Simon from Oxford posted a very good link which explains all the British honours. This corrected my previous assumption as to the expansion - OBE is Officer of the Order of the British Empire (higher than a Member - MBE, but lower than a Commander - CBE) Yahoo has been awful recently, but it seems to have cleared. You've possibly missed quite a few messages... Here's the link Simon posted: - http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/in_depth/uk/2000/birthday_honours_2000/newsid_7 92000/792498.stm From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 07:34:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 03:34:00 -0400 Subject: Still Wondering About OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2155 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Still Wondering About OBE Reply To: [Yahoo! #2150] Re: Still Wondering About OBE Date: 6/18/00 3:34 am (ET) "It is a knightship granted by her Royal Majesty Queen Elizabeth II" Not quite a knightship - that would make her Dame Joanne Rowling... Maybe in ten years' time! Neil Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 07:56:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 03:56:00 -0400 Subject: when is book 4 out? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2156 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: when is book 4 out? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2147] Re: when is book 4 out? Date: 6/18/00 3:56 am (ET) "but in ireland...hmmm i'd say a month or two after that so mabey the start of school for you guys... mabey" Poor Ireland! As the book is being released on 8th July, it should be available in Ireland on that date - why think otherwise? I would assume that Bloomsbury covers Ireland as well as Britain, but there may be a separate Irish publisher. If not, you could always order it from Amazon.com. Neil From morrigan09 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 11:00:00 2000 From: morrigan09 at yahoo.com (morrigan09) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 07:00:00 -0400 Subject: Ireland book times and other stuff Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2157 From: morrigan09 Subject: Ireland book times and other stuff Reply To: [Yahoo! #2139] when is book 4 out? Date: 6/18/00 7:00 am (ET) Hi, I doubt it will be out later in Ireland than in Britain: the PoA paperback was out at the same time on both sides of the border anyway. If it *is* out late you could always drive North and buy it... if you're anywhere near obsessed enough to fit in here you'll do that ;-) Oh, and a temporary goodbye, people, I'm off to the Scottish Highlands next week... I'll keep an eye out for enchanted cliffside castles! Oh, and WolfieTwins are goddesses, witches and I suspect at least *one* of them has to be a werewolf-- how else could she write about it so vividly... read their Lupin story Call of The Wild on fanfiction.net, it's amazing... http://www.fanfiction.net/master.cfm?action=Directory-AuthorProfile&UserID=10632 From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 12:14:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 08:14:00 -0400 Subject: ATTN: Meaning of OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2158 From: Carlsson79 Subject: ATTN: Meaning of OBE Date: 6/18/00 8:14 am (ET) OBE in fact means Officer of the british empire - i'm allmost sure it does. Someone put a link to the BBC homepage on here, which explained it well for me nicholas PS i think Hagrid has a Cornish accent From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 13:12:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:12:00 -0400 Subject: ATTN: Meaning of OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2159 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: ATTN: Meaning of OBE Reply To: [Yahoo! #2158] ATTN: Meaning of OBE Date: 6/18/00 9:12 am (ET) OBE is one of a series of honours which are collectively known as Orders of the British Empire. They are awarded in recognition for exceptional achievement or service. The O stands for Officer. I think the title is then; Officer of the British Empire. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 13:17:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:17:00 -0400 Subject: ATTN: Meaning of OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2160 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: ATTN: Meaning of OBE Reply To: [Yahoo! #2159] Re: ATTN: Meaning of OBE Date: 6/18/00 9:17 am (ET) "I think the title is then; Officer of the British Empire." Yes... I think I was confused earlier! Neil From biteback_2000 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 13:17:00 2000 From: biteback_2000 at yahoo.com (biteback_2000) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:17:00 -0400 Subject: when is book 4 out? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2161 From: biteback_2000 Subject: Re: when is book 4 out? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2147] Re: when is book 4 out? Date: 6/18/00 9:17 am (ET) i think in july. a harry potter e-mail friend told me. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 13:33:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:33:00 -0400 Subject: Fan or fanatic? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2162 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Fan or fanatic? Date: 6/18/00 9:33 am (ET) Hmmmm - I certainly have time on my hands... I was watching a UK daytime chatshow earlier ('Trisha' - a bit like 'Jerry Springer', but much more polite) and the subject was "Fan or fanatic?" The guests were people who were obsessed with singers/bands. For example, they had a guy who sold his house so that he could follow Janet Jackson on her tour of America (and he had a tattoo of Janet on his arm - yeuch!!!). Q: How far have any of you been in the name of Harry Potter? Does anyone feel they've gone a bit beyond fandom? Has anyone commented on your behaviour? Have you been caught trying on pointed hats? I see myself as a fairly modest fan. Okay, I check out this club every single day and I just bought all the CD versions of the books, but I wouldn't sell my parents into slavery in return for a ticket to ride on JK Rowling's steam engine (she's touring British towns, doing book signings). So, any fanatics out there? What's your worst Harry Potter excess? Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 13:44:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:44:00 -0400 Subject: Fan or fanatic? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2163 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Fan or fanatic? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2162] Fan or fanatic? Date: 6/18/00 9:44 am (ET) <So, any fanatics out there? What's your worst Harry Potter excess?> My excess is reading this message board and the HP newsgroup everyday. I dont even have plans at the moment to visit King's Cross on the 8th. Simon From msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 13:46:00 2000 From: msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com (msjanedoe31) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:46:00 -0400 Subject: Who is Nancy? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2164 From: msjanedoe31 Subject: Who is Nancy? Date: 6/18/00 9:46 am (ET) Hello all! I am so happy to have found this site. I recently completed a course at the local university in children's literature. I was then on a mission to read all of the great books out there for children, since I will be a teacher next year I felt it was relevant. I was bitten by the bug (love bug) of Harry Potter. I went and purchased all of the hardback copies and pre-ordered the fourth one. I cannot explain my love and intrigue for these books, except that it is magical, simply magical. Harry, Ron, Hermione, Hagrid, etc., are not just characters in a book, they are much more than that. Harry put a spell on me. Happy Father's Day to Mr. Weasley, Hagrid, and Mr. Granger, but not to Mr. Dursley! Who is Nancy and what is she trying to do? From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 13:51:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:51:00 -0400 Subject: Who is Nancy? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2165 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Who is Nancy? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2164] Who is Nancy? Date: 6/18/00 9:51 am (ET) The best thing to do is check out this link from one of the Harry Potter fan sites. It explains the whole thing. http://www.geocities.com/harrypotterfans/lawsuit.html Neil From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 13:55:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 09:55:00 -0400 Subject: Does anyone agree with me? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2166 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Does anyone agree with me? Date: 6/18/00 9:55 am (ET) Does anyone agree with me when i say i think Severus Snape is brilliant. I wanted to get the Yahoo! name Snape, or Severus_Snape, but i can't - people obviously like him? what do you think. At leats he has talent, unlike that Gilderoy Lockhart... nicholas From drusilla_antonia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 14:39:00 2000 From: drusilla_antonia at yahoo.com (drusilla_antonia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 10:39:00 -0400 Subject: Ploting against Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2167 From: drusilla_antonia Subject: Ploting against Harry Date: 6/18/00 10:39 am (ET) There are a bunch of Dark Arts clubs that are ploting to ruin the Good Harry Potter clubs and are trying to get more books banned.Im currently spying for Readers Against Harry Potter Exile,I'll let you guys know if you are in danger of being shut down. From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 15:18:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 11:18:00 -0400 Subject: Ploting against Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2168 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Ploting against Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2167] Ploting against Harry Date: 6/18/00 11:18 am (ET) Huh? I know there are people who would like to ban HP, but we are hardly in danger of being "shut down". There is this little thing called the First Amendment you see.... From candlebones at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 15:43:00 2000 From: candlebones at yahoo.com (candlebones) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 11:43:00 -0400 Subject: New to The Club Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2169 From: candlebones Subject: New to The Club Date: 6/18/00 11:43 am (ET) Hello! I am eagerly awaiting the newest Harry Potter adventure. I have enjoyed losing myself in the world of Harry, Ron, and Hermoine. Looking forward to being a part of this club!! From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 16:19:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 12:19:00 -0400 Subject: Who is Nancy? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2170 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Who is Nancy? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2164] Who is Nancy? Date: 6/18/00 12:19 pm (ET) >>>>msjanedoe31 wrote: Happy Father's Day to...Hagrid...<<<< LOL! Do you think Norbert sent Hagrid a Father's Day card or a Mother's Day card? "...Mummy loves you, Norbert!..." From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 16:23:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 12:23:00 -0400 Subject: Fan or fanatic? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2171 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Fan or fanatic? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2162] Fan or fanatic? Date: 6/18/00 12:23 pm (ET) I'm a lonely outpost fan. I don't know anyone in my own life who likes Harry Potter -- I'm not even sure they ever read books. I even asked my 17-year-old nephew if he read any of them and he didn't know who Harry Potter was {{{sigh}}}. I'm the family mutant, the person who spent the first night of her LIFE staring around the hospital nursery looking for something to read. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 16:25:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 12:25:00 -0400 Subject: Who is Nancy? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2172 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Who is Nancy? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2170] Re: Who is Nancy? Date: 6/18/00 12:25 pm (ET) <LOL! Do you think Norbert sent Hagrid a Father's Day card or a Mother's Day card? "...Mummy loves you, Norbert!..."> That is going to be one confused dragon in later life. Think of the therapy needed! Simon From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 16:31:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 12:31:00 -0400 Subject: Call of the Wild #5 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2173 From: Danemead Subject: Call of the Wild #5 Date: 6/18/00 12:31 pm (ET) I just wandered over to fanfiction.net and the WolfieTwins have posted the 5th chapter of "Call of the Wild" -- Yippee! It's nice and looooong, too. Thanks to Morrigan for the address: http://www.fanfiction.net/master.cfm?action=Directory-AuthorProfile&UserID=10632 From nyias at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 17:26:00 2000 From: nyias at yahoo.com (nyias) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:26:00 -0400 Subject: Ploting against Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2174 From: nyias Subject: Re: Ploting against Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2168] Re: Ploting against Harry Date: 6/18/00 1:26 pm (ET) She means that there are people (mainly kids) who are going around and getting club founders to reveal their passwords. Then the "Dark Arts" people delete the clubs. There is no danger of having a club deleted if you don't give out your password. nyias From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 17:37:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:37:00 -0400 Subject: Ploting against Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2175 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Ploting against Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2174] Re: Ploting against Harry Date: 6/18/00 1:37 pm (ET) Hehe... Penny, you'd better watch out. If you ever get a message saying "Hey! How's it going? Can I have your password?", now you know that you shouldn't give it out. ;) It seems a bit strange to me that the members of RAHPE (mostly kids) should feel that it is their duty to protect us from the dangers of the "Dark Arts"... are we really as doddering and useless as that already? ;) Jen, an old stodgy adult who barely knows how to work the microwave at age 25. ;) From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 17:39:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:39:00 -0400 Subject: Plotting against Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2176 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Plotting against Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2175] Re: Ploting against Harry Date: 6/18/00 1:39 pm (ET) Jen the teacher re-enters and corrects a few things: First. Fixes the spelling mistake in the subject. Second. Takes out all her unnecessary winky-smiles (new member of the teletubbies cast?) Third. Removes 99.44 percent of her sarcasm and apologises. Jen From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 17:39:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:39:00 -0400 Subject: Ploting against Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2177 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Ploting against Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2167] Ploting against Harry Date: 6/18/00 1:39 pm (ET) <Im currently spying for Readers Against Harry Potter Exile,I'll let you guys know if you are in danger of being shut down.> Ooohh -- we'll be waiting with bated breath to hear if we're in danger of being "shut down"! All sarcasm aside, would you mind explaining to me exactly what Readers Against Harry Potter Exile *thinks* it might do if they found a club devoted to discussing the ways to ban the books? This is not the first time that our club has been "visited" by a representative of this group, and so I just can't resist asking what you think you might do if we didn't "pass muster" so to speak. Ahem . . . don't you realize that if you try to ban people from discussing why HP is bad, you'd be guilty of the same crime (banning free expression and exchange of ideas)? Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 17:43:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:43:00 -0400 Subject: Plotting against Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2178 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Plotting against Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2176] Re: Plotting against Harry Date: 6/18/00 1:43 pm (ET) <Third. Removes 99.44 percent of her sarcasm and apologises. Jen> Jen -- No need to remove your sarcasm -- I thought it was funny (and hopefully effective!). Plus, I think I might have gone a step further in the sarcasm department . . .and I don't intend to retract it. <g> Penny From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 17:46:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:46:00 -0400 Subject: Plotting against Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2179 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Plotting against Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2178] Re: Plotting against Harry Date: 6/18/00 1:46 pm (ET) Well, I did only remove 99.44 percent. That leaves a good .56%... It looks like we're all ready and waiting to go chat today - that was a record time for a response, Penny. Hope to see you in the chat room in a few minutes! Jen - going off to see if there are any new posts in PoA - but hoping there aren't if they're just reposts of news articles... I can't tell you how mad I get to see that guy just rehashing news we can get elsewhere. Nothing to do with Lori's story at all. Okay, enough complaining. Jen (again - of course) From msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 17:51:00 2000 From: msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com (msjanedoe31) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:51:00 -0400 Subject: please clarify Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2180 From: msjanedoe31 Subject: please clarify Date: 6/18/00 1:51 pm (ET) When I posted a "Happy Father's Day" and included Hagrid it was not intended to be a message from his own. Fathers can be everyone and anyone in a family. In my opinion, Hagrid looked out for Harry more than the Dursleys, therefore his message was from Harry. I felt and still feel it is warranted. I believe a member named Simon stated that a confused dragon would need therapy in the future. I want to know if that dragon it supposed to be me meaning that I am confused about Hagrid's existence? I joined this club to share my love of Harry Potter books, not argue or defend myself with anyone. Maybe this is the wrong club for me. Thanks for reading my post. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 17:52:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:52:00 -0400 Subject: Chat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2181 From: hert0661 Subject: Chat Reply To: [Yahoo! #2179] Re: Plotting against Harry Date: 6/18/00 1:52 pm (ET) <It looks like we're all ready and waiting to go chat today - that was a record time for a response, Penny. Hope to see you in the chat room in a few minutes!> I have an odd feeling there has been a mix up with British and Eastern time. It is just before 7pm here. I may be able to join the chat later but am about to go off and have some dinner! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 17:55:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:55:00 -0400 Subject: please clarify Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2182 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: please clarify Reply To: [Yahoo! #2180] please clarify Date: 6/18/00 1:55 pm (ET) <I believe a member named Simon stated that a confused dragon would need therapy in the future. I want to know if that dragon it supposed to be me meaning that I am confused about Hagrid's existence? > I was jokingly refering to Norbert. Sorry if I caused any offence. <I joined this club to share my love of Harry Potter books, not argue or defend myself with anyone. Maybe this is the wrong club for me. Thanks for reading my post. > That is why we are here. Stay and discuss some points of the books. Simon From msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 17:58:00 2000 From: msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com (msjanedoe31) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:58:00 -0400 Subject: please clarify Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2183 From: msjanedoe31 Subject: Re: please clarify Reply To: [Yahoo! #2182] Re: please clarify Date: 6/18/00 1:58 pm (ET) Thank you for your kind response. Melissa From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 17:59:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 13:59:00 -0400 Subject: please clarify Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2184 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: please clarify Reply To: [Yahoo! #2180] please clarify Date: 6/18/00 1:59 pm (ET) Not entirely sure how to phrase this but here goes! When I write I sometimes mean somethings as a joke but fail to appericaite that anyone who reads my messages may not realise that this is what I intended in the message. Might have to start using smiley faces! Sorry if I have offended anyone. Simon From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 18:10:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:10:00 -0400 Subject: Chat Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2185 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Chat Reply To: [Yahoo! #2181] Chat Date: 6/18/00 2:10 pm (ET) Interesting. At first I thought I'd calculated wrong - I'm PST (Pacific time) (or is it PDT now? I'm so confused!), so I have to subtract three hours from the Eastern Time zone.... Maybe we'll have to change the chat time on the calendar to 3-5pm ET. Of course, I was all excited to finally be able to make one - but I have to leave at around 11:30 my time to go to some guy's house to watch a car race (my husband's idea, he's a big race fan) and make sure my baby doesn't stick her fingers into any non-babyproofed electric sockets. I swear, I don't know why my husband thinks it's no big deal to go over to houses that don't have any young children in them. Oh. Yes I do. Because HE'S not the one watching Ginger. Sorry, there's a little bit of OT bitterness for you. And on Father's Day, too. I should be ashamed of myself. Of course, I'm not. Jen, who had to take out most of the smiley faces that she put in by habit. (ps. I met my husband online in a "chat" about 6 years ago - this was before the web was visual - it was mostly text at the time - so I have a habit of putting smileys at the end of almost everything I say. I have to get out of the habit when posting to a bb.) From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 18:19:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:19:00 -0400 Subject: other HP groups Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2186 From: joywitch999 Subject: other HP groups Date: 6/18/00 2:19 pm (ET) Are there other Harry Potter groups on the internet that people here like to read? I have been reading the usenet group alt.fan.harry-potter, but it doesnt get much traffic. I read the amazon.com group sometimes, but most of its participants are pre-literate children who talk about how much they like each other. I know there are a lot of other Yahoo groups but I have assumed (possibly wrongly) that they are just like the amazon group. I am looking for groups like this one -- interesting comments, discussions, speculations and information about the Harry Potter books from people who understand the concepts of spelling and grammar. From firstrecorder at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 18:23:00 2000 From: firstrecorder at yahoo.com (firstrecorder) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 14:23:00 -0400 Subject: please clarify Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2187 From: firstrecorder Subject: Re: please clarify Reply To: [Yahoo! #2180] please clarify Date: 6/18/00 2:23 pm (ET) When I posted a "Happy Father's Day" and included Hagrid it was not intended to be a message from his own. Fathers can be everyone and anyone in a family. In my opinion, Hagrid looked out for Harry more than the Dursleys, therefore his message was from Harry. I felt and still feel it is warranted. First of all I just joined this list. Have finished reading the first three books with my 10 year old daughter. I wanted to comment on this point because it is very personal to me. I have spent most of my life raising other men's children. The 10 year old in question and her 17 year old sister I have been raising since I met their mother 7 years ago. Before then there was a long string of children I cared for between the ages of 2 and 8 years old that each spent a few years in my life before their mothers moved on for various reasons. I also spent a year and a half caring for a friend's infant daughter. I don't see them much any more but am told that to this day if she can't have mommy she calls me for me, not her daddy even though he has never been absent from her life. Make of it what you will. From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 19:16:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:16:00 -0400 Subject: please clarify Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2188 From: Danemead Subject: Re: please clarify Reply To: [Yahoo! #2180] please clarify Date: 6/18/00 3:16 pm (ET) I meant no offense with my post, either. When you were wishing Hagrid a Happy Father's Day, my mind immediately asked "Who would be sending Hagrid a Father's Day card?" and then I remembered Norbert and his "mommy" -- never even considered that HARRY might feel kinship with Hagrid (good thought, though!). Speaking of which -- don't you wonder what Hagrid's parents WERE? Were they giants, or did they just have an really oversized child? From davehoz at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 19:22:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:22:00 -0400 Subject: Harry, Ron, Hermione and Love... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2189 From: davehoz Subject: Harry, Ron, Hermione and Love... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2151] Re: Hermione and Love... Date: 6/18/00 3:22 pm (ET) I think we should expect to be surprised (is that a contradiction?) at Harry's future mate. Look at _Little Women_: How many of you, while reading the first half of it, would ever in a million years have dreamed that Jo would end up marrying a middle-aged bearded German professor? FWIW, I'm a Ron + Hermione person. (Please don't kill Ron off, JKR!) As I like to frequently point out, I'm glad were allowed to have this kind of discussion about love involving Harry and his collegues. In the Oz world, the idea of any of the established characters falling in love is considered "blasphemous" by Oz scholars. (A century hence, will there be "Harry Potter Scholars"? Yeeech! I hope not.) From candlebones at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 19:46:00 2000 From: candlebones at yahoo.com (candlebones) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 15:46:00 -0400 Subject: Fan or fanatic? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2190 From: candlebones Subject: Re: Fan or fanatic? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2171] Re: Fan or fanatic? Date: 6/18/00 3:46 pm (ET) There are a lot of people out here who love to read and a lot more who don't care to read. Where I work, most of the staff and their kids have never heard of the Harry Potter books. My own daughter hasn't read the books yet....it was my older brother who introduced me to the series.....to me ..we all need this kind of release from the world. From davehoz at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 20:04:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:04:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's family (was: please clarify) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2191 From: davehoz Subject: Hagrid's family (was: please clarify) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2188] Re: please clarify Date: 6/18/00 4:04 pm (ET) >Speaking of which -- don't you wonder what Hagrid's parents WERE? >Were they giants, or did they just have an really oversized child? That's a good question -- We know nothing of his backround. He's muggle-born for all we know! From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 20:14:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:14:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's family (was: please clarify Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2192 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Hagrid's family (was: please clarify Reply To: [Yahoo! #2191] Hagrid's family (was: please clarify) Date: 6/18/00 4:14 pm (ET) His dad died - no mention of mum. Simon From mam87_00000 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 20:51:00 2000 From: mam87_00000 at yahoo.com (mam87_00000) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: WAKE UP CALL Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2193 From: mam87_00000 Subject: WAKE UP CALL Date: 6/18/00 4:51 pm (ET) WHAT IN THE WORLD IS WRONG WITH HARRY POTTER I MEAN ITS JUST A STORY THAT KIDS ENJOY BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO USE THERE IMAGINATION AND HERE YOU ALL ARE LIKE CAKLING OLD HENS DISING SOMETHING THAT HAS FINALLY GOT YOUR CHILDREN TO READ IMEAN THINK ABOUT IT PEOPLE!YOUR CHILDREN ARENT THINKING ABOUT THE BAD STUFF YOU GUYS ARE THINKIG WAY TO HARD From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 21:55:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 17:55:00 -0400 Subject: WAKE UP CALL Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2194 From: Danemead Subject: Re: WAKE UP CALL Reply To: [Yahoo! #2193] WAKE UP CALL Date: 6/18/00 5:55 pm (ET) DUH! You are posting this on the wrong board. Everyone in this club loves Harry Potter. But we do appreciate MATURE discussions of plot and character and motivation... maybe that's beyond you? From msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 22:12:00 2000 From: msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com (msjanedoe31) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:12:00 -0400 Subject: WAKE UP CALL Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2195 From: msjanedoe31 Subject: Re: WAKE UP CALL Reply To: [Yahoo! #2194] Re: WAKE UP CALL Date: 6/18/00 6:12 pm (ET) Well said Danemead. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 22:25:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:25:00 -0400 Subject: New members... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2196 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: New members... Date: 6/18/00 6:25 pm (ET) Some new members seem a bit unsure of what we're doing here. I only joined about a month ago, and I can say, for sure, that - this is the only Harry Potter club or message group I've found that has worthwhile discussions - the members sometimes tease each other - it's not ALL serious literary stuff... - we're not anti Harry Potter! Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 22:34:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:34:00 -0400 Subject: Book 4 - don't spoil! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2197 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Book 4 - don't spoil! Date: 6/18/00 6:34 pm (ET) Some of us were just chatting (in the chat room, naturally), and wondering what we should do when Book 4 comes out. Not everyone will be able to read the book immediately, and it would be a shame if people gave away bits of the plot in their early posts. It might be a bit much to say 'don't discuss the book' but perhaps messages should be marked 'spoiler alert' if they contain any really juicy bits? Penny (and anyone else), what do you think? Neil PS - to the person who entered the chat room and left quickly: you didn't wait long enough to see any messages come up! We were all 'thinking' (sort of) when you entered. Sorry. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 22:41:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:41:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2198 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Hagrid... Date: 6/18/00 6:41 pm (ET) As Hagrid is SO big, I think perhaps he isn't totally human? Maybe half-giant? (imagine that conception scene) The early description of him is as "a giant of a man," but the implication is that he is more than unusually large. If dragons exist in the magical world, then maybe there are Jack and the Beanstalk type giants roaming the countryside as well. The other possibility is that he has been made larger by a spell. Perhaps. Neil From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 22:58:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 18:58:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2199 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: Hagrid... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2198] Hagrid... Date: 6/18/00 6:58 pm (ET) maybe she has invented a new race or something? i mean - there are mountain trolls, and i never knew there were different types... also, what about all of the unusual creatures lupin taught them how to fight? dementors - there are so many 'new' inventions - i don't think we can guess... nicholas From triner2001 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 23:03:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:03:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's family (was: please clarify Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2200 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Hagrid's family (was: please clarify Reply To: [Yahoo! #2191] Hagrid's family (was: please clarify) Date: 6/18/00 7:03 pm (ET) Hagrid can't be a muggle-born, otherwise he wouldn't be so astonished by the Metro and other Muggle-esque forms of transportation (remember the esclator?) and he could've handled the Muggle money instead of having Harry do it. Trina From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 23:14:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:14:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2201 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Hagrid... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2199] Re: Hagrid... Date: 6/18/00 7:14 pm (ET) You're right, Nicholas. We shouldn't assume anything in the magical universe behaves as it does in the Muggle world. After all, there are centaurs, pixies, elves, goblins, trolls, dragons, giant talking spiders, hippogryffs, animagi and Aunt Marge. Hagrid seems pretty normal against that zoo. The only thing JK Rowling has said, in recent interviews, is that she wouldn't bring people back from the dead with magic (i.e. Harry's parents) - otherwise, anything goes, from invisibility and time travel to reading tea leaves! Hagrid also represents that 'gentle-but-simple giant' character that appears so often in mythical and horror literature. A bit like Frankenstein... well sort of (can't think of another example right now). We love him, because he befriends the heroes, even though he could snap their necks like matchsticks if he wanted. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 23:15:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:15:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2202 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Hagrid... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2201] Re: Hagrid... Date: 6/18/00 7:15 pm (ET) "...and Aunt Marge" Okay, she's a Muggle - I got carried away! Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 23:33:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:33:00 -0400 Subject: Book 4 - don't spoil! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2203 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Book 4 - don't spoil! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2197] Book 4 - don't spoil! Date: 6/18/00 7:33 pm (ET) I don't think I want to wait to discuss the books, but I agree that we need to remember to put SPOILER in the title to avoid giving away things to those who haven't read it yet. It's going to be a long book - over 700 pages -- but if it is as good as the last three, I fear I will still be awake at 2 a.m. trying to finish the whole thing in a day! I have mine on order from Amazon, so I won't get it on July 8 (unless my grocery store has some in plain view!... I'll end up buying it there.... I wouldn't be able to resist). Is there anyone in the group who has to wait until a library copy is free, or wait for a friend/relative to loan it? From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 23:35:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:35:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2204 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Hagrid... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2199] Re: Hagrid... Date: 6/18/00 7:35 pm (ET) no... she didn't make a new race... she said in ehr intervewin at the scholastic site, that she will be making some new creatures of her oen in book four book non before... mabey hagrids size has somthing to do with his family line, like mabey his great great grand-dad saved a gaint and so the gaint gave him his strengh when he was inneed or something like that.... no wait what are the chances that J.K would write in somthing like that.... From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 23:39:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:39:00 -0400 Subject: Book 4 - don't spoil! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2205 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Book 4 - don't spoil! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2197] Book 4 - don't spoil! Date: 6/18/00 7:39 pm (ET) I think spoiler alerts are a good idea. For myself, I've ordered Book 4 through Amazon, and it's supposed to be delivered July 12. Between July 8 and the time I finish reading Book 4, I plan to make myself scarce from all HP-related forums, for that very reason. All the more to read and discuss after I've read it! I'm not sure I'll be able to stay away, however. I certainly couldn't if the interim were more than a week. :) Melanie From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 23:41:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:41:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2206 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Hagrid... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2204] Re: Hagrid... Date: 6/18/00 7:41 pm (ET) Hagrid could be: An oddity of nature (you never see any others like him around). An exceptionally powerful wizard admitted to Hogwarts on merit, somewhat like Remus Lupin was admitted... for his talent and in spite of being "different" from the other magical kids. An exchange student from "Land of the Giants" (just kidding) From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 18 23:58:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 19:58:00 -0400 Subject: Thanks for the pronounciation... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2207 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Thanks for the pronounciation... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2206] Re: Hagrid... Date: 6/18/00 7:58 pm (ET) although I still have one question - I know what a drawl is, but in America if you say someone has a drawl, you think of a person from south or southeast America. Now, although there are students from other lands than the UK at Hogwart's, I was wondering if perhaps in Britain a drawl is usually associated with another accent, perhaps from one part of the UK or another. If they are from America, Lucius Malfoy sure shows up a lot, although being rich and a wizard could do that, I'd wager. Anyone have any input on this? Also, spoiler alert in the heading is very appreciated by anyone who hasn't grabbed and finished a copy yet, although I doubt that will be me. :) Definately a good part of bullitan board netiquette. Jarnor23 From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 00:05:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 20:05:00 -0400 Subject: Thanks for the pronounciation... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2208 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Thanks for the pronounciation... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2207] Thanks for the pronounciation... Date: 6/18/00 8:05 pm (ET) A drawl is a good way to describe a rather sleazy, sneering way of speaking (very Slytherin, therefore). It's more a *way* of speaking, but, to answer your question, some accents in the UK would certainly suit it better than others. Neil From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 00:18:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 20:18:00 -0400 Subject: WAKE UP CALL Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2209 From: davehoz Subject: Re: WAKE UP CALL Reply To: [Yahoo! #2194] Re: WAKE UP CALL Date: 6/18/00 8:18 pm (ET) The original poster may have been complaning about our discussions about contradictions and continuity holes, which seem to really get under some people's skin for some reason. (Nothing unique -- the same is true of Oz and Red Dwarf.) They don't seem to understand that we're not "dissing" the books -- Just discussing interesting points and details that JKR may have missed. For the record, the first three books of the Harry Potter series have far fewer errors/inconsistancies than either the Oz Books or Red Dwarf... From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 00:25:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 20:25:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter clubs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2210 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Harry Potter clubs Date: 6/18/00 8:25 pm (ET) In relation to an earlier question, I notice that this club is now poised to assume 2nd place (in terms of members) in the Yahoo list of Harry Potter clubs. The only functional Yahoo clubs larger than this are Harry Potter's Place and Hogwarts, and they are both full of teenagers, role-playing in silly, semi-literate exchanges. I can't see the point of it myself, but they must be keen on the books at least! BTW, one of the members of Harry Potter's Place posted that rather deranged message here, earlier, and another confused girl claims to be head of the cheerleading squad - you know, that familiar institution of British boarding schools? :) Sorry, that just amused me. Anyway, I'm not meaning to be too critical of da kidz - maybe it's my age, eh? Neil From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 00:26:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 20:26:00 -0400 Subject: Strange movie casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2211 From: davehoz Subject: Strange movie casting Date: 6/18/00 8:26 pm (ET) Okay, I've got an unorthodox idea for casting the movie: How about a cameo by Patrick Moore as Professor Sinastra the astronomy professor. For those of you whose E-mail addresses end in ".com" instead of ".uk", Patrick Moore is a popularizer of astronomy in Great Britian. Those of us Yanks who know of him call him "The British Carl Sagan". I'm imagining a scene where he's introducing Harry's class to using the telescope in the castle observatory. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 00:30:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 20:30:00 -0400 Subject: Oz - slightly off-topic :) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2212 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Oz - slightly off-topic :) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2209] Re: WAKE UP CALL Date: 6/18/00 8:30 pm (ET) I've been meaning to ask you: Are the Oz books worth reading? I guess you'll say yes, but I read the first one and was really disappointed. Do they get better? I'm reading around wizardy-type books at the moment. HP withdrawal symptoms, I guess! Neil From christineoswell at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 00:44:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 20:44:00 -0400 Subject: Thanks for the pronounciation... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2213 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: Thanks for the pronounciation... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2207] Thanks for the pronounciation... Date: 6/18/00 8:44 pm (ET) >Now, although there are students from other lands than the UK at Hogwart's< I thought I heard Jo say in an interview that there are wizarding schools all over the world, Hogwarts isn't the only one. And book 4 is supposed to have a great deal of the world quidditch championship, which I am assuming is between the different schools. I remember her saying that Scotland would lose to Luxembourg.... From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 00:46:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 20:46:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2214 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Hagrid... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2201] Re: Hagrid... Date: 6/18/00 8:46 pm (ET) >Hagrid also represents that 'gentle-but-simple giant' character that appears so often in mythical and horror literature. A bit like Frankenstein... well sort of (can't think of another example right now). Another example I can think of is the BFG -- Big Friendly Giant -- of the book of the same name by Roald Dahl, who IMHO is one of JKRs influences. From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 01:00:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:00:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 1 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2215 From: joywitch999 Subject: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 1 Date: 6/18/00 9:00 pm (ET) This is part 1 of a collection of mysteries, inconsistencies, and other questions about the first 3 HP books. It is being posted in 3 parts because it is long. Some of these questions are based on my own reading of the books, but many are questions which have been and are being discussed on several HP discussion groups, including the amazon.com group, the usenet group (alt.fan.harry-potter), and the this one. Some of these are important plot questions, but many of them are simply nitpicking. It does not include any future book speculation, such as the oft-asked "Who will die in Book 4?" nor does it include any interesting, but purely speculative questions, such as whether Harry is related in some way to Dumbledore, Riddle, Godric Gryffindor, etc. The first, and most important, mystery of the Harry Potter books is of course: Why does Voldemort want to kill Harry? What was Professor Trewlawny's first accurate prediction? Was it that Harry would bring about Voldemort's downfall? [OK, I admit it, this question falls into the category of speculation about future books, which I said I wouldn't get into here, but I am convinced that that's why Voldemort tried to kill Harry when he was still a baby.] Does Snape really want the Defense against the Dark Arts job or is that just a rumor that the Hogwarts students have made up? What house was James Potter in when he went to Hogwarts? [Everyone seems to assume he was in Gryffindor. If James was in Gryffindor, then Sirius Black and probably Lupin and Pettigrew were too, unless the social structure of how kids make friends at Hogwarts has changed considerably. But Hagrid says that all of the wizards who followed Voldemort were in Slytherin, and at the time everyone believes that Sirius Black followed Voldemort, and Pettigrew really did. Therefore, unless Hagrid was wrong or lying then Black and Pettigrew were in Slytherin, and then probably James Potter and Lupin were too.] Why doesn't Harry ever seem to give anyone presents, only get them? [This could simply be JKR writing style, after all, she can't include every event of Harry's life.] What happened to the rest of Harry's family? How is it possible that James' parents, Lily's parents and ALL their relatives except for Petunia are dead? Why was there a green flash when Voldemort tried to kill Harry? Does it have something to do with Lily's dying to save him, the fact that Lily had green eyes, and that Harry has the same green eyes? Why did James Potter give Dumbledore the invisibility cloak? Wouldn't an invisibility cloak be a useful thing to have around if an evil wizard were looking for you? From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 01:03:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:03:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2216 From: joywitch999 Subject: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Date: 6/18/00 9:03 pm (ET) This is a collection of mysteries, inconsistencies, and other questions about the first 3 HP books. It is being posted in 3 parts because it is long. In Book 1, after Hagrid delivers the baby Harry to his the Dursley's house he tells Dumbledore that he has to go return the motorcycle to Sirius Black. But in Book 3, Sirius says that he gave the motorcycle to Hagrid because he didn't need it anymore. Why does it take Hagrid so long to get to the Dursleys with the infant Harry Potter? Voldemort kills Harry's parents and is defeated by Harry on Halloween night. The witches and wizards are already celebrating in the morning when Mr. Dursley is going to work, they are still celebrating when he goes home from work. Then Dumbledore shows up at the Dursley's house at midnight to wait for Hagrid. It seems to me that, therefore, Hagrid doesn't actually arrive at the Dursleys until almost a day after Voldemort's defeat. In Book 1, Nearly Headless Nick says he hasn't eaten anything in nearly 400 years, but in book 2 it turns out he's been dead for 500 years. Which is it? [An observant person somewhere noted that the way Nick is dressed -- in ruffs and tights -- was the fashion of 400 years ago, not 500.] What happened to the other Patil twin, Parvati's twin sister, who is sorted at the same time as Harry? Why does Ron get to bring a rat to Hogwarts, when the Hogwarts acceptance letter specifically says students can bring a cat or a toad or an owl? How do the Dursleys get back to land from the Hut on the Rock, since Hagrid and Harry take the boat when they leave? How did Hagrid get the key to the Potter's Gringotts vault? Did he take it from the ruins of the Potter's house? If so, why didn't Voldemort take it? How do new Hogwarts students who come from muggle families know how to find Diagon Alley and Platform 9 3/4? [Maybe Hagrid, or a Hogwarts professor, visits each muggle family to explain everything (since after all the letter must come as something of a shock) and then takes the new student to Diagon Alley to buy their school supplies] Why does Harry have to continue to live with the Dursleys? After all, in Book 2 the Dursleys tell him to find out if he can spend the summer at Hogwarts. Couldn't he just hang out with Hagrid all summer? [I think the answer is simply that Harry's adventures with the Dursleys are an important plot device that JKR wants to continue.] How come Moaning Myrtle is able to flood the bathroom? Ghosts are supposed to be able to pass through matter without disturbing it, and there are numerous references in the book to them doing so, such as Professor Binns entering the classroom through the blackboard. The water shouldn't move when Moaning Myrtle is inside the toilet. Both Snape and Hermione point out that no one can apparate or disapparate inside of Hogwarts. Then how does Dobby get into the hospital wing to see Harry after the Quidditch match? [One possible answer is that elves power may be stronger, or different, than wizard's spells.] How did Fawkes get into the Chamber of Secrets? [May have the same answer as the above question] Do Harry and Hermione show up twice on the Marauder's Map while they are time traveling? Does Hermione show up twice when she is attending more than one class? If so, how come Fred, George, Harry, Lupin, and Snape -- all of whom have access to the map at some point -- never notice? Also, how come none of the above people except Lupin ever notice while looking at the map that Ron is always accompanied by Peter Pettigrew? In Book 3, when they are returning to the castle from the Shrieking Shack, Lupin turns into a werewolf when the clouds part to show the full moon. But if he only changes when the full moon is visible, why doesn't he just stay inside? Why do the dementors try to give Harry the kiss of death? From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 01:05:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:05:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter clubs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2217 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Harry Potter clubs Reply To: [Yahoo! #2210] Harry Potter clubs Date: 6/18/00 9:05 pm (ET) hey! whats the matter with roll play? its fun i do it all the time under this id (hence the messed up profile) the only problem i see with roll playing is that some books you just can't roll rplay like the harry potter books, J.K has made such a story that roll playing for anything to do with harry potter, is imposible less it destorys to whole fun of rpging trust me i've seen it with another book series and a yahoo clubs.... but the point is don't dis rpging! anyway HARRY POTTER RULEZ!!!!!! From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 01:05:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:05:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 3 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2218 From: joywitch999 Subject: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 3 Date: 6/18/00 9:05 pm (ET) This is a collection of mysteries, inconsistencies, and other questions about the first 3 HP books. It is being posted in 3 parts because it is long. How did the Marauder's map write the insults about Snape from Padfoot, Prongs, etc., in other words is the map just "programmed" to write insults, or is the map a bridge to the past in the same way as Riddle's diary was? Harry's glasses are taped up in the first book. In the second book they seem to be whole, then get snapped in half when he falls down in Knockturn Alley (while using the Floo Powder). How does this happen. [This has been a topic of much discussion somewhere, I forget where exactly. Personally I think that one of the Hogwarts professors repaired Harry's glasses when he first got to Hogwarts, and it wasn't mentioned because, after all, JKR can't mention EVERYTHING that happens to Harry. I mean, do we really need to know every time he takes a shower or changes his socks?] What's the difference between a wizard and a warlock? Why does Snape tell Malfoy to make a snake appear during the duel (Book 2)? Does Snape have some idea that Harry is a parselmouth? And how does Malfoy create the snake anyway? Doesn't creating an animal out of thin air seem pretty hard, as compared with what the second years are learning in their classes? Dumbledore's card (from the Chocolate Frogs) says that one of his accomplishments is the defeat of the dark wizard Grindelwald in 1945. Is Grindelwald supposed to be Hitler? Does that explain why the Allies won World War II? [A sociology professor recently told me that no one really understands why the Allies won the war. It seems to me that the fact that 40 or 50 million Russians died fighting Hitler explains a lot but according to this professor that is only one of a number of possible reasons. I was tempted to tell him my theory about Dumbledore.] How is Ron going to explain his new owl? [In the discussion group where this question was introduced, the response I like the best is that he can tell his parents that Hedwig had a baby.] Where do kids from wizard families go to school before they are old enough for Hogwarts? They have to learn to read and write somehow, but if they went to regular schools wouldn't all the muggle kids learn more than they should about witches and wizards? Why does Harry's scar hurt from time to time? From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 01:15:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:15:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 1 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2219 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 1 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2215] Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 1 Date: 6/18/00 9:15 pm (ET) intersting topic, i can only reply to one or two though... >What happened to the rest of Harry's family? How is it possible that James' parents, Lily's parents and ALL their relatives except for Petunia are dead?< problay becasue Petunia is a muggle and everyone else is a wizard, voldemort problay had being trageting the potters for years slowing killing them all off before for he got him self blast by harry... >Why did James Potter give Dumbledore the invisibility cloak? Wouldn't an invisibility cloak be a useful thing to have around if an evil wizard were looking for you? < mabey james new voldemort would probaly kill them and he wanted some one (like harry if he survied which he did...) to have the invisblity cloak some one poor or with out a family... casue that cloaks worth alot right? it could make poor people rich and some one with out a family really happy (or in some casue fred and geoge really really happy hehehe...) From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 01:25:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:25:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2220 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2216] Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Date: 6/18/00 9:25 pm (ET) >How did Hagrid get the key to the Potter's Gringotts vault? Did he take it from the ruins of the Potter's house? If so, why didn't Voldemort take it?< voldemort was problay in a rush to get away so no one would see him or sumthing mabey he was thinking he would return to power (ya right...) and then just bust into gringotts and steal everyones money, or mabey the potters gave it to a friend knowing the problay won't make it and some one should get all the money. > How do new Hogwarts students who come from muggle families know how to find Diagon Alley and Platform 9 3/4? [Maybe Hagrid, or a Hogwarts professor, visits each muggle family to explain everything (since after all the letter must come as something of a shock) and then takes the new student to Diagon Alley to buy their school supplies] < the might get a note saying how to get in or where to meet a wizard that could show you how.... > Why does Harry have to continue to live with the Dursleys? After all, in Book 2 the Dursleys tell him to find out if he can spend the summer at Hogwarts. Couldn't he just hang out with Hagrid all summer? [I think the answer is simply that Harry's adventures with the Dursleys are an important plot device that JKR wants to continue.] < who says he would have to live with hagrid oln the summer i think he would spend apart of the summer with ron and the other part with hermione. > How come Moaning Myrtle is able to flood the bathroom? Ghosts are supposed to be able to pass through matter without disturbing it, and there are numerous references in the book to them doing so, such as Professor Binns entering the classroom through the blackboard. The water shouldn't move when Moaning Myrtle is inside the toilet.< myrtle flods them by crying not splashing water around... > Also, how come none of the above people except Lupin ever notice while looking at the map that Ron is always accompanied by Peter Pettigrew?< problay casue harry only used the map when ron was at hogsmead so he couldn't see ron and he problay wasn't looking to she who was hanging in there common room fred and geogre didn't need it so they problay hadn't used it since book 1 and then they wouldn't be checking to see who was sleeping in the common room... lupin problay didn't use it except for that one time becasue he would know that if he saw sirus sneaking in he would have a hard time explain how he came across the map and all that... >Why do the dementors try to give Harry the kiss of death? < becasue he interfeared with them trying to do it to sirus... From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 01:33:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:33:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 3 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2221 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 3 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2218] Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 3 Date: 6/18/00 9:33 pm (ET) >they problay put magic in it so that if anyone they knew tryed to use it and failed it would insult them or somthing like that snape just happened to be someone they knew (sucker...) >What's the difference between a wizard and a warlock?< in the books warlocks are a high ranking wizard rember all the professor titles? professor so and so order of mryln first secound or thrid class, gran sroc of the warlocks commite or something like that.... >Why does Snape tell Malfoy to make a snake appear during the duel (Book 2)? Does Snape have some idea that Harry is a parselmouth? And how does Malfoy create the snake anyway? Doesn't creating an animal out of thin air seem pretty hard, as compared with what the second years are learning in their classes< snape just want to make harry look scared and need help he had no idea that harry could talk with snakes, snape might have cast the spell on malfoys want so all he had to do was say the last word and poof! snake attack!!! >How is Ron going to explain his new owl? [In the discussion group where this question was introduced, the response I like the best is that he can tell his parents that Hedwig had a baby.]< he might say harry got him the owl as a gift casue he lost scabbers... >Where do kids from wizard families go to school before they are old enough for Hogwarts? They have to learn to read and write somehow, but if they went to regular schools wouldn't all the muggle kids learn more than they should about witches and wizards?< mabey there familys teach them or mabey the have tutors... ther might be a care care or somthing... >Why does Harry's scar hurt from time to time?< it hurts casue its a warning say hey this guy hates you or he's going to kill you i'm give you the power to hurt him back... From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 01:34:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:34:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and inconsistencies Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2222 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Mysteries and inconsistencies Reply To: [Yahoo! #2218] Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 3 Date: 6/18/00 9:34 pm (ET) masn thats alot of writeing... shhs man nooffense or anything but if you pay alittle more attention to the book it explains some of your questions From triner2001 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 01:43:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:43:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries & Inconsistencies Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2223 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Mysteries & Inconsistencies Date: 6/18/00 9:43 pm (ET) Here are some of my thoughts. 1. How did Hagrid and Dumbledore get the Potter's bank key and Invisibility Cloak? Perhaps when they discussed the Fidelius charm w/ Dumbldore James gave them to him just in case. Obviously they knew Voldemort was after them 2. Spending the summer @ Hogwarts. Remember in CoS when Tom Riddle is told by the old Headmaster that that is not possible? 3. Ron explaining the owl. Well, the truth always is a nice touch. Although, when his mom hears about it...you never know how she'll react! 4. You'll notice Harry's scar only hurts when Voldemort is around. 5. I'm not going to get into why there wasn't 2 of H & H when Lupin was looking at the map, but perhaps he was so stunned to see Pettigrew that's all he paid attention to. As for Snape, well obviously Moony, Wormtail, Padfoot & Prongs magicked some safeguards into it in the event it fell into unfriendly hands--Snape, Filch, any professor. Trina From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 01:51:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:51:00 -0400 Subject: Rah! Rah! Rah! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2224 From: davehoz Subject: Rah! Rah! Rah! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2210] Harry Potter clubs Date: 6/18/00 9:51 pm (ET) >The cheerleading squad - you know, that familiar institution >of British boarding schools? :) Can you imagine Quidditch with cheerleading? It staggers the imagination. Of course, that's probably the only way the Slytherins will let the girls take part in Quidditch... From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 01:55:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:55:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries & Inconsistencies Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2225 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Mysteries & Inconsistencies Reply To: [Yahoo! #2223] Re: Mysteries & Inconsistencies Date: 6/18/00 9:55 pm (ET) 1: ya thats basicly what i said but who has time to read everything i write... 2:it was not possibly becasue of the problems with the chamber of serects other wise it might have been possibul 3: yes tell everyone how ron got the iowl then he and harry would probly be locked up for the summer with the minstery of magic trying to disspell what ever spell they think sirus put on them, hey that would be kinda of funny... 4: not always in book 1 near the end he was say he wished he knew why his scare hurt and voldemort/quirrel was half way across the school 5:i to will not get into the two H&H thing but if you read one of my latest entirs you see that i said the exact same thing about the map only in different words man nobdy every listens to me, oh well From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 01:58:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 21:58:00 -0400 Subject: Rah! Rah! Rah! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2226 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Rah! Rah! Rah! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2224] Rah! Rah! Rah! Date: 6/18/00 9:58 pm (ET) probaly it would be funny to she hermione on the cheerleading sqaud and giiny to! they both be cheering for harry more than for anyone else, hey you no what in book three when malfoy has his arm broke? (faking it) all the girls in slytherin where all oh is it okay draco.... they like him... or hes paying them to try and make harry jealous (ya right harry jeaslous of that guy...) From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 02:00:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:00:00 -0400 Subject: Rah! Rah! Rah! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2227 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Rah! Rah! Rah! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2224] Rah! Rah! Rah! Date: 6/18/00 10:00 pm (ET) probaly it would be funny to she hermione on the cheerleading sqaud and giiny to! they both be cheering for harry more than for anyone else, hey you no what in book three when malfoy has his arm broke? (faking it) all the girls in slytherin where all oh is it okay draco.... they like him... or hes paying them to try and make harry jealous (ya right harry jeaslous of that guy...) hey wait who said slytherin wasn't lettting girls on their team mabey none of the girls tryed out or mabey the just didn't have the skill, oh wait a minute i'm help supporting slytherins...eerrrr forget what i said!!!!! man i knew i shpuldn't have clicked post before i could erase all this..... LOL From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 02:07:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:07:00 -0400 Subject: Oz - slightly off-topic :) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2228 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Oz - slightly off-topic :) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2212] Oz - slightly off-topic :) Date: 6/18/00 10:07 pm (ET) Well, I'll concede that reading Harry Potter throws the shortcomings of the Oz books into sharp relief. I'd say give them a try -- They're fun and imaginative if not up to J.K. Rowling's quality of plot and dialogue. I recommend _Ozma of Oz_, _The Patchwork Girl of Oz_, _The Scarecrow of Oz_ and _Merry-Go-Round in Oz_ as the best of the series. From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 02:13:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:13:00 -0400 Subject: new photo album Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2229 From: david_the_bravest Subject: new photo album Date: 6/18/00 10:13 pm (ET) some of you may have some problems with the photo album i made but i felt like adding a funny pic, Harry demonter (i ment to say bogart damn...) (pic i added) is what a bogart would trying into for an older harry ginny with njew clothes trying to catch harrys eye From cj_bsm at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 02:14:00 2000 From: cj_bsm at yahoo.com (cj_bsm) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:14:00 -0400 Subject: No offense intended Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2230 From: cj_bsm Subject: No offense intended Reply To: [Yahoo! #2227] Re: Rah! Rah! Rah! Date: 6/18/00 10:14 pm (ET) just a quick note....please, before you hit post, reread what you typed and check your spelling and sentence structure...we really want to read what you have to say, but if it is incomprehensible people (particularly on this board for GROWN UPS) will be irritated and not read your posts. The "you" in this post is not meant necessarily just for "david_the_bravest" but for "you" meaning all of US (including me). I'll take off the teachers hat (I'm not a teacher but am descended from an entire family of teachers). Post away, just think before you hit send. cj From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 02:16:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:16:00 -0400 Subject: No offense intended Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2231 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: No offense intended Reply To: [Yahoo! #2230] No offense intended Date: 6/18/00 10:16 pm (ET) ya well sorry its late here and i can't get to sleep so i'm stay online for alittle while hoping to trie myself oiut and thus making some miskes in what i type, From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 02:32:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:32:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter clubs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2232 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Harry Potter clubs Reply To: [Yahoo! #2217] Re: Harry Potter clubs Date: 6/18/00 10:32 pm (ET) Say, "david_the_bravest".... why do I have a hard time believing that you are 60 years old, as your profile says you are? From dee_97527 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 02:35:00 2000 From: dee_97527 at yahoo.com (dee_97527) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:35:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's family (was: please clarify Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2233 From: dee_97527 Subject: Re: Hagrid's family (was: please clarify Reply To: [Yahoo! #2200] Re: Hagrid's family (was: please clarify Date: 6/18/00 10:35 pm (ET) Remember that Hagrid went to school over 50 years ago. There would have been many changes over this time. Not that I really think that Hagrid is Muggle-born Diann From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 02:35:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:35:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter clubs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2234 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Harry Potter clubs Reply To: [Yahoo! #2232] Re: Harry Potter clubs Date: 6/18/00 10:35 pm (ET) i'm not 60 yeasrs old i rpg in another club and my char is 60 years old in the race he belongs, pay no attention to anything my profile says its all for the rpging i do in my other clubs From daughterofthedust at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 02:38:00 2000 From: daughterofthedust at yahoo.com (DaughteroftheDust) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:38:00 -0400 Subject: In Defense of dave-the-bravest... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2235 From: DaughteroftheDust Subject: In Defense of dave-the-bravest... Date: 6/18/00 10:38 pm (ET) Umm, didn't he say he rped under his alias?? Meaning, of course, the age and everything else isn't him. Anyway, back to topic. ;-) From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 02:40:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 22:40:00 -0400 Subject: In Defense of dave-the-bravest... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2236 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: In Defense of dave-the-bravest... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2235] In Defense of dave-the-bravest... Date: 6/18/00 10:40 pm (ET) its not the guys fault he thought i was 60 he probaly just joined or hasn't being reading all of the msgs so he didn't know i was writing under a rpg alias but thanks for backing me up Daughterofthedust From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 03:09:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 23:09:00 -0400 Subject: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2237 From: plinsenmayer Subject: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Date: 6/18/00 11:09 pm (ET) Hi: The subject heading was not meant to be shouting but rather an attention grabber. <g> A few housekeeping matters (review of etiquette, purpose of this club, etc.) seem to be in order: 1. SPOILERS FOR BOOK 4: It will be in everyone's best interest if we all agree to use ***SPOILER*** in the subject heading of any post that has any details relating to Book 4 throughout July (or until most of us agree it's no longer needed). Also, VERY IMPORTANT -- as you can see, the first sentence or 2 of your post will appear plainly to anyone reading the recent messages on the homepage. Use some spoiler space in the text of your message please. It is rumored to be a long book. Many of us (myself included) have set aside the weekend of 8-9 July with the intent of reading more or less non-stop, but it may take other people several weeks to finish it. So, let's all agree to be considerate. 2. PURPOSE OF THE LIST: I am planning to revise the Founder's Message to be more specific that this club is for adult fans of the HP books who want to have adult-level (literate) discussions. I don't know yet how the space constraints of that message will affect my ability to clearly communicate this purpose. I have searched Yahoo Clubs to no avail -- does anyone know how I might go about setting up an introductory message to go out to all new members when they join? Ideally I would like an intro message to new members so that new members can be clear that: a) We are all fans of the HP books. This does not mean that I would want free speech to be squelched, but I'd also rather avoid frequent messages from people who are anti-HP and trying to stir everyone up. This detracts from the purpose of the club: enjoyable discussion of the many great points of the HP series. b) This club is intended for adults. I don't think this requires an age litmus test (i.e. that members must be over a certain age), but I do want to be clear that the intent is for there to be a forum for "grown-ups" to engage in literate, adult-level, in-depth discussions of the books, character development, comparisons to other literature, mythology, fanfic, etc. (and tangential issues like casting the movie). There are literally hundreds (perhaps thousands) of listserves, bbs, chat groups, RPGs, etc. geared toward children, teenagers & a combination of children & teenagers. I have only found a handful of groups with active adult membership. My point in emphasizing this is that this forum may not be the most ideal forum for teenage fans. I was messengered by one person who was trying to join our club and who was surprised to learn that it was *not* the *only* HP club on Yahoo. Okay, so anyone who knows how I might best communicate our purpose and our membership -- please let me know. If you're still listening -- thanks. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 03:27:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2000 23:27:00 -0400 Subject: Changes to Founder's Message Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2238 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Changes to Founder's Message Date: 6/18/00 11:27 pm (ET) Hi: I've changed the Founder's Message to (hopefully) clarify a bit about this club. If anyone has any suggested changes or thoughts, I'd be happy to hear them. You can email me privately at linsenma at hic.net if you prefer. Penny From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 04:16:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 00:16:00 -0400 Subject: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2239 From: Danemead Subject: Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Reply To: [Yahoo! #2237] MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Date: 6/19/00 12:16 am (ET) Good post, Penny. I don't have any suggestions to add, except perhaps to suggest to new members or prospective members to read at least a few dozen of the previous messages to get a feel for what subjects are discussed and where our interests lie. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 04:59:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 00:59:00 -0400 Subject: Fan or fanatic? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2240 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Fan or fanatic? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2171] Re: Fan or fanatic? Date: 6/19/00 12:59 am (ET) >>> I'm a lonely outpost fan. I don't know anyone in my own life who likes Harry Potter -- I'm not even sure they ever read books. I even asked my 17-year-old nephew if he read any of them and he didn't know who Harry Potter was {{{sigh}}}. I'm the family mutant, the person who spent the first night of her LIFE staring around the hospital nursery looking for something to read. >>> Girl, you sound like my soul mate! However, I'm not TOTALLY alone -- my aunt loves Harry Potter, and my mom likes him too. But I'm the most fanatical in the family, although the excess of my "fandom" is joining this club and buying the books and audiobooks, although I'll probably buy some Harry Potter merchandise (T-shirt or coffee mug) fairly soon. And the joke in my family is that I came out of the birth canal with a book in my hand! :) -- JoAnna From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 05:01:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 01:01:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter clubs/readable posting! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2241 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Harry Potter clubs/readable posting! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2217] Re: Harry Potter clubs Date: 6/19/00 1:01 am (ET) "hey! whats the matter with roll play? its fun i do it all the time under this id" Um, I wasn't criticising role-play as such. I was commenting on the content of messages in other Harry Potter clubs, as I saw it. If this club didn't exist, I'd feel I had to start one like it, because the other large HP clubs on Yahoo are involved in rather shallow role-play and not much else. Also, david_the_bravest, don't take offence at people not acknowledging all your comments. The way you type and spell makes your posts *extremely* difficult to read (exhausting, in fact). You make some good points, but try reading your own messages after you've posted them and you'll see what everyone else sees. It's like another language! Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 05:21:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 01:21:00 -0400 Subject: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2242 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Reply To: [Yahoo! #2237] MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Date: 6/19/00 1:21 am (ET) Penny, as Founder, you could send an e-mail message directly to all the current members. If you did that, the points about spoilers and the general club rules would be drummed home, good and proper! Other than that, I don't know what else you can do; I think your message says it all and I'm sure most people will take it on board. Thanks. Neil From golden_faile at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 05:54:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 01:54:00 -0400 Subject: Fan or fanatic? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2243 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: Fan or fanatic? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2240] Re: Fan or fanatic? Date: 6/19/00 1:54 am (ET) there are going to always be peoplewho don't understand your love of good books. no one in my family understands either! the good thing is i get to noe share my love with my son(he is truly a kindred spirit!)i read harry potter with him and loved it. we now anxiously await the 4th book. keep your chin up, you can always sign on and talk to other fans such as us who share your interests. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 06:00:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 02:00:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's family Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2244 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Hagrid's family Reply To: [Yahoo! #2242] Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Date: 6/19/00 2:00 am (ET) I had a thought about Hagrid today... Wouldn't it be an interesting plot turn in book 4 if Hagrid was re-admitted to Hogwarts? He was expelled in his third year for opening the Chamber of Secrets. However, in book 2, it's proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that Hagrid did NOT open the CoS and therefore did not deserve to be expelled. He was made a teacher in PoA, but shouldn't he be able to become a fully qualified wizard, as he would have if not for Tom Riddle? (Of course, there's a chance he would have been expelled later in his Hogwarts career for taking care of other "interesting creatures.") If Hagrid was re-admitted to Hogwarts, he'd be in Harry's class (a fourth-year)! Wouldn't that make for some interesting chapters? Of course, maybe it's not possible for him to be re-admitted, if it's a hard and fast rule that only children can be Hogwarts students....but it would be interesting! -- JoAnna From rjcool4 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 06:01:00 2000 From: rjcool4 at yahoo.com (rjcool4) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 02:01:00 -0400 Subject: NEW MEMBER of HP & HUGE FAN Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2245 From: rjcool4 Subject: NEW MEMBER of HP & HUGE FAN Reply To: [Yahoo! #2240] Re: Fan or fanatic? Date: 6/19/00 2:01 am (ET) I am the weird one in my family, I have all 3 and read them several times each. And my family just looks at me and says WHY? cause reading isnt something i have time for always, but once I start a book I cant stop. Over the summer, I am teaching a English Lit Analysis course through series. Looking for and explaining continuity and character development, why something happens or doesnt, and plot progression. One of the 3 series we are using is HP. We start HP 2 weeks before 4 comes out, so when 4 comes out - they will be reading that, having finished 1-3. I cant wait, it will be a blast. I just wanted to introduce myself and say HI HI. rj ==== >>> I'm a lonely outpost fan. I don't know anyone in my own life who likes Harry Potter -- I'm not even sure they ever read books. I even asked my 17-year-old nephew if he read any of them and he didn't know who Harry Potter was {{{sigh}}}. I'm the family mutant, the person who spent the first night of her LIFE staring around the hospital nursery looking for something to read. >>> Girl, you sound like my soul mate! However, I'm not TOTALLY alone -- my aunt loves Harry Potter, and my mom likes him too. But I'm the most fanatical in the family, although the excess of my "fandom" is joining this club and buying the books and audiobooks, although I'll probably buy some Harry Potter merchandise (T-shirt or coffee mug) fairly soon. And the joke in my family is that I came out of the birth canal with a book in my hand! :) -- JoAnna ==== From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 06:14:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 02:14:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's family Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2246 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Hagrid's family Reply To: [Yahoo! #2244] Re: Hagrid's family Date: 6/19/00 2:14 am (ET) Hagrid is a big enigma. He's never actually graduated from school, but we know that Hogwarts is only for the best and the brightest of wizard children, and Hagrid was a student. Hagrid SEEMS to be rather further down on the social and intellectual scale, and yet Dumbledore acknowledges his trustworthiness and his intelligence (saying that he would trust Hagrid with his own life, trusting Hagrid to retrieve the Sorcerer's Stone from Gringott's, appointing Hagrid as a teacher, etc.) It will be interesting to see if there is more to Hagrid than we've been led to believe. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 07:20:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 03:20:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2247 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2216] Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Date: 6/19/00 3:20 am (ET) <In Book 1, Nearly Headless Nick says he hasn't eaten anything in nearly 400 years, but in book 2 it turns out he's been dead for 500 years. Which is it? [An observant person somewhere noted that the way Nick is dressed -- in ruffs and tights -- was the fashion of 400 years ago, not 500.]> He says in book 1 that he caneat food but there is no point. Maybe ghosts can change thre clothes. <Why does Ron get to bring a rat to Hogwarts, when the Hogwarts acceptance letter specifically says students can bring a cat or a toad or an owl?> Non exhaustive list! <Also, how come none of the above people except Lupin ever notice while looking at the map that Ron is always accompanied by Peter Pettigrew?> Thye never look at the right part - only look at the bit they are interested in. <In Book 3, when they are returning to the castle from the Shrieking Shack, Lupin turns into a werewolf when the clouds part to show the full moon. But if he only changes when the full moon is visible, why doesn't he just stay inside?> >From other books with werewolves - if outside and the moon is visible around full moon then he is forced to change but on the night of the full moon he will change no matter where he is. <Why do the dementors try to give Harry the kiss of death?> It is described as food for them - maybe they were just hungry. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 07:24:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 03:24:00 -0400 Subject: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2248 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Reply To: [Yahoo! #2237] MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Date: 6/19/00 3:24 am (ET) <1. SPOILERS FOR BOOK 4: It will be in everyone's best interest if we all agree to use ***SPOILER*** in the subject heading of any post that has any details relating to Book 4 throughout July (or until most of us agree it's no longer needed). Also, VERY IMPORTANT -- as you can see, the first sentence or 2 of your post will appear plainly to anyone reading the recent messages on the homepage. Use some spoiler space in the text of your message please.> It is the first so many characters of the post, so when including a spoiler space write something like 'this is a spoiler space' as the first few words. <It is rumored to be a long book. Many of us (myself included) have set aside the weekend of 8-9 July with the intent of reading more or less non-stop, but it may take other people several weeks to finish it. So, let's all agree to be considerate. > Some people around may even wait for the paperback version to come out - prove that we are all adults and think before you post. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 07:27:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 03:27:00 -0400 Subject: New members... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2249 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: New members... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2196] New members... Date: 6/19/00 3:27 am (ET) Also just because at times we seem to be picking holes in the books this is because we like them so much and want to discuss everything about them. Simon PS: I go to sleep and 60 messages are written! From babynick34 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 09:04:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 05:04:00 -0400 Subject: LATEST NEWS - "Official" Fan Club Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2250 From: babynick34 Subject: LATEST NEWS - "Official" Fan Club Date: 6/19/00 5:04 am (ET) 19th June 2000 - 10am BST NEWS JUST ARRIVED (care of muggle postal service) J K Rowling - Fan Club The Christopher Little Literacy Agency has contacted me this morning by letter regarding an "official" Fan Club. They say... and I quote... "developments for an official fan club are well advanced. Unfortunately, we cannot divulge any more about it at this stage." So... do you think Christopher is telling the truth... or just trying to stop the development of "unofficial" clubs by making it seem that an "official" club will be here soon. Nick. The International J.K. Rowling Fan Club (unofficial) www.broomsticks.org From v_breach at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 10:00:00 2000 From: v_breach at yahoo.com (v_breach) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 06:00:00 -0400 Subject: The next book Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2251 From: v_breach Subject: The next book Reply To: [Yahoo! #2246] Re: Hagrid's family Date: 6/19/00 6:00 am (ET) perhaps we shall find out more about hagrid in the next book. Oh yeah hen does it get released? I'm on an order for the book, but I don't know when to collect it! Vicky From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 11:57:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 07:57:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter clubs/readable posting! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2252 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Harry Potter clubs/readable posting! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2241] Re: Harry Potter clubs/readable posting! Date: 6/19/00 7:57 am (ET) o well i wrote most of my posts last night and i was tried up late but couldn't get to sleep.... From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 12:10:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 08:10:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's family Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2253 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Hagrid's family Reply To: [Yahoo! #2246] Re: Hagrid's family Date: 6/19/00 8:10 am (ET) >we know that Hogwarts is only for the best and the brightest of wizard children,< not so! on the J.K interveiw on the scholastic site some one asked a question. How do you find out if your amitted to hogwarts? She said a big book magicaly write down you name when you are born, and every year just after summer proffesor mcgonallen looks threw the book and sends letters to everyone who is turn 11. Besides some of hogawrts students are dumb but get by and get smarter (alittle) with help from there frinds take ummmmm neviell! the toadless boy! (sorry i can't spell his name, and i'm to lazy to get a book to read it from...) And if hagrid was reemitted, harry and all his other friends which he would surely make inwhat every house he was in, would help him get smart, and more up the social line, it would be funny to see some chapters were his in harrys class, even funnyer to see him paying quiddict agasint harry! it would be cool to see him runing around out side of the school (during breaks) and trying to keep up with his gameskeep jobs... and if he still had the job as care of magical teachers job it would be funny to see all of his class runing around with him trying to defrost broomsticks and all... i think it would be cool if hargrid was re emited for one book From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:06:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:06:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's family Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2254 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Hagrid's family Reply To: [Yahoo! #2253] Re: Hagrid's family Date: 6/19/00 9:06 am (ET) Neville is not that stupid. He is very good at herbology but suffers from a lack of confidence in many of his subjects. He just needs good teachers, like Lupin, to bring the best out of him. Simon (2 days to go) From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:09:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:09:00 -0400 Subject: Hahhahahhaha! Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2255 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Reply To: [Yahoo! #2097] Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Date: 6/19/00 9:09 am (ET) <<The only connection I find between her and Harry Potter is the phony interview on her website - she clearly *interviewed* herself - which reminds me of Gilderoy Lockhart. >> Now she will probably sue JKR on the fact that Gilderoy is based on Nancy herself... From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:14:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's family Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2256 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Hagrid's family Reply To: [Yahoo! #2254] Re: Hagrid's family Date: 6/19/00 9:14 am (ET) true i guess but he does give the appearance that he is stupid, just like hagrid, so put hagrid in some class with nice teachers so umm mabey just put him in care of magic creature he'd do well theer get him self a 100% in that subject... wait a minute that is his subject.. well i still think it would be neat if hagrid went to school for aleast olne book From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:14:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Holy Harry Potter, Batman! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2257 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Holy Harry Potter, Batman! Date: 6/19/00 9:14 am (ET) My goodness, there were some "interesting" things going on here over the weekend! I have two points that I wish to address. First, to those youngsters who log on and post messages to the adults assuming that we are "dissing" the books: Please read the posts first, and you'll realize that we love the books just as much as you do. Just because we are adults, don't assume that we are "stodgy old fogeys." At heart, we're all just a bunch of kids, too. Which actually brings me to my second point: are we fans or fanatics? This time I'd like to "talk" to the adults, my contemporaries. Let's see, most of us have all three books and have pre-ordered the fourth, I know that others have the books AND the tapes or CDs. We try to check the board a few times a day. Several of us have plans for the launch of the fourth book. I'm pretty sure that we can easily discuss events without consulting our books; we have the characters' names memorized and also what house they're in. Quite a number of us would turn down the car in favor of the book (reference: car vs. book argument.) I could go on and on. But we also have to realize that even though we love these books and tend to have intelligent discussions about them, they ARE intended for kids. I'm pretty sure that makes us fanatics. I hope I don't offend anyone (remember I'm including myself in that number!) From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:15:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:15:00 -0400 Subject: For all of those in the UK Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2258 From: hert0661 Subject: For all of those in the UK Date: 6/19/00 9:15 am (ET) Have just been to WHSmiths online website and they have now reduced the 4th book by 60%. So you can get it delivered to your door for '8.25. A reduction of 45%! Simon From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:17:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:17:00 -0400 Subject: JKR OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2259 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: RE: JKR OBE Reply To: [Yahoo! #2113] RE: JKR OBE Date: 6/19/00 9:17 am (ET) Does that make JKR Dame Jo now? From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:18:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:18:00 -0400 Subject: Hahhahahhaha! Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2260 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Reply To: [Yahoo! #2097] Re: Hahhahahhaha! <insert insult here Date: 6/19/00 9:18 am (ET) so w hat if she interveiw her self? if she did she did if she didn't she didn't, the point is her interveiw told us some stuff we want to know about harry potter, and Gilderoy Lockhart problay never interveiwed him self he problay had the Daily Prohat reporters all over him one he said he banished a Bansee From CarverWB at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:21:00 2000 From: CarverWB at yahoo.com (CarverWB) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:21:00 -0400 Subject: Holy Harry Potter, Batman! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2261 From: CarverWB Subject: Re: Holy Harry Potter, Batman! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2257] Holy Harry Potter, Batman! Date: 6/19/00 9:21 am (ET) <Which actually brings me to my second point: are we fans or fanatics?> There is a difference? It is a spectrum, of course. People who have never heard of the books might call someone a fanatic for simply reading 2 of the 3 books. While some of us who have all the books and the tapes and come online to read message boards might think only the roleplayers or costumers are fanatics. Just because I've made some chocolate frogs doesn't mean Im a fanatic! ;) Jen From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:25:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:25:00 -0400 Subject: JKR OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2262 From: hert0661 Subject: RE: JKR OBE Reply To: [Yahoo! #2259] RE: JKR OBE Date: 6/19/00 9:25 am (ET) No - an OBE is a lower honour than becoming a Dame. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:32:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:32:00 -0400 Subject: JKR OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2263 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: RE: JKR OBE Reply To: [Yahoo! #2262] RE: JKR OBE Date: 6/19/00 9:32 am (ET) <<- an OBE is a lower honour than becoming a Dame.>> So do you know what her title is? Or is a title even granted? From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:38:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:38:00 -0400 Subject: JKR OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2264 From: hert0661 Subject: RE: JKR OBE Reply To: [Yahoo! #2263] RE: JKR OBE Date: 6/19/00 9:38 am (ET) I dont think she gets a title. Is know Miss J.K. Rowling OBE Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:38:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:38:00 -0400 Subject: JKR OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2265 From: hert0661 Subject: RE: JKR OBE Reply To: [Yahoo! #2264] RE: JKR OBE Date: 6/19/00 9:38 am (ET) <I dont think she gets a title. Is know Miss J.K. Rowling OBE> Know should have been now. Must check my posts more carefully! From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:41:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:41:00 -0400 Subject: Ploting against Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2266 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Ploting against Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2175] Re: Ploting against Harry Date: 6/19/00 9:41 am (ET) I think there are enough REAL magical folks here that can give them a little excitement... From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:51:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:51:00 -0400 Subject: Considerations when you Post Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2267 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Considerations when you Post Date: 6/19/00 9:51 am (ET) Hi: I want to follow up on cj's comments from last night regarding content and format of posts to this list. She made some great points, and I'd like to expand on that for a moment. Things to consider when you post: 1. READ your own message carefully before you hit "Post Message." If you are a poor typist, run spell check if available. If your browser doesn't support spell check, then READ your message closely (or compose it in a word processing program and run spell check that way). 2. I cannot (and *will* not) continue to wade through messages that are in all lower-case, full of typos and spelling errors, grammatically incomprehensible and/or devoid of punctuation. If you consistently post messages with these faults, then you can expect that many of us will begin to skip over your posts (i.e. ignore them). Write in complete sentences. Use uppercase & lowercase (reading all lowercase is hard on the eyes). Use punctuation -- at the very least put a period at the end of each sentence. If you're not sure, run spell check or use a dictionary. Examples: Maybe is not spelled mabey. There is a difference between "there" and "their" (and neither of these words is spelled theer). 3. Please remember that most of the members are over 18. If you are not yet old enough to buy a beer, please pay particular attention to the above notes on posting. It might be helpful to think about whether your parents and/or teachers could read what you've just composed. Would they understand it? If not, reconsider posting it (please!). Hopefully, none of this has offended anyone. Thanks for listening -- Penny From msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:55:00 2000 From: msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com (msjanedoe31) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:55:00 -0400 Subject: Happy Monday! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2268 From: msjanedoe31 Subject: Happy Monday! Date: 6/19/00 9:55 am (ET) Good Morning to all. I just browsed through the photo album and I am amazed at how clean your city looks. It definitely puts New Orleans to shame. Oh, and I enjoyed the pictures of KingsCross and the escalators. I would love to see them in person, but air fare is a hefty penny. Perhaps, I shall look for some Floo powder. Have a magical day, Melissa From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 13:57:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 09:57:00 -0400 Subject: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2269 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Reply To: [Yahoo! #2242] Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Date: 6/19/00 9:57 am (ET) Hi: <Penny, as Founder, you could send an e-mail message directly to all the current members. If you did that, the points about spoilers and the general club rules would be drummed home, good and proper!> Well, that's a good suggestion Neil, except that it is possible to join a yahoo club and keep your email address private. So, I don't have access to email addresses for all members. And, sending an email to each new member sounds like more of an administrative chore than I have time for at the moment. If anyone can think of a way to automate it somehow (so that a message gets sent to the computer that just joined the club?? I'm not the most computer-savvy person around) -- I'd appreciate any input. Thanks, Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:00:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:00:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries & Inconsistencies Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2270 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Mysteries & Inconsistencies Date: 6/19/00 10:00 am (ET) Hi: Joywitch999 -- what a great compilation of the various mysteries and inconsistencies that we've bandied about for the last months!! I have no new answers or thoughts at the moment, but I've printed out your posts. I'm sure we'll continue to add to your list. Penny From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:03:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:03:00 -0400 Subject: Considerations when you Post Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2271 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Considerations when you Post Reply To: [Yahoo! #2267] Considerations when you Post Date: 6/19/00 10:03 am (ET) Hello; Another point people may wish to consider. If you are replying to a message and in doing so quote some of or all of the message you are replying to then can you make sure that: (1) Your reply is positioned below the quoted text so that when someone else is reading the post they understand the subject being discussed. (2) That you remove any of the message that your reply is not dealing with - especially names and signitures. (3) Vhange the subject line if the message is about something different to what the original topic was. Thanks to anyone who takes note of this. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:04:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:04:00 -0400 Subject: Holy Harry Potter, Batman! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2272 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Holy Harry Potter, Batman! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2261] Re: Holy Harry Potter, Batman! Date: 6/19/00 10:04 am (ET) "<Which actually brings me to my second point: are we fans or fanatics?> There is a difference?" Yes there is. Although 'fan' is short for 'fanatic', it has a milder meaning in common usage. Fan = enthusiastic devotee/ardent admirer. Fanatic = someone who is excessively and often uncritically enthusiastic. Obviously, as recent evidence suggests, some children and teenagers are being fanatical in their behaviour about HP! I would expect most adults to be fans rather than fanatics (and we are 'critical' in this group, it's safe to say). However, there are cases of 60-year old men filling their houses with, say, Elvis memorabilia, and selling all their worldly goods in the name of their obsession. Has anyone gone that far with HP or think they might? That was the point of my question... Neil From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:05:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:05:00 -0400 Subject: Holy Harry Potter, Batman! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2273 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Holy Harry Potter, Batman! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2257] Holy Harry Potter, Batman! Date: 6/19/00 10:05 am (ET) Hi: <I know that others have the books AND the tapes or CDs.> Or, there are those of us who have the books AND the tapes AND the CDs. <g> <But we also have to realize that even though we love these books and tend to have intelligent discussions about them, they ARE intended for kids. I'm pretty sure that makes us fanatics.> Well, they are marketed to kids, but don't forget that JKR has said that she wrote the books for herself (as an adult). I don't think she's surprised at the adult following. The main characters happen to be children, but I think they are intended for everyone (or certainly have appeal to all ages in any case!). Penny From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:07:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:07:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 3 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2274 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 3 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2218] Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 3 Date: 6/19/00 10:07 am (ET) <<Is Grindelwald supposed to be Hitler? Does that explain why the Allies won World War II? [A sociology professor recently told me that no one really understands why the Allies won the war. It seems to me that the fact that 40 or 50 million Russians died fighting Hitler explains a lot but according to this professor that is only one of a number of possible reasons.>> There was in fact a magical battle during WWII. Hitler dabbled in the occult and had actually banned its practice in all forms so that others could not interfere. There are several books on the subject. One of the most interesting is "The Magical Battle of Britain" in which Dion Fortune aka Violet Firth, and her magical order did a psychic battle with Hitler. They used the King Arthur story as a focal point so that everyone working in unison had the same thing in mind. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:12:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:12:00 -0400 Subject: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2275 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Reply To: [Yahoo! #2269] Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Date: 6/19/00 10:12 am (ET) "Well, that's a good suggestion Neil, except that it is possible to join a yahoo club and keep your email address private." Hmmmm - I wasn't sure about that. I wondered whether it just hid the e-mail address in the profile. As everyone has to include an e-mail of some sort in their application, I thought they might still receive any group mail-outs. I don't want to create work for you Penny! It was just a thought. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:16:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:16:00 -0400 Subject: Considerations when you Post Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2276 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Considerations when you Post Reply To: [Yahoo! #2271] Re: Considerations when you Post Date: 6/19/00 10:16 am (ET) "(3) Change the subject line if the message is about something different to what the original topic was." Yes, I agree with this one, and I'm guilty of not doing it myself! We need to think about this in the context of replying to 'spoiler' messages. If your reply could spoil things, you should put a new heading. Neil From triner2001 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:26:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:26:00 -0400 Subject: Did anyone else notice... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2277 From: triner2001 Subject: Did anyone else notice... Date: 6/19/00 10:26 am (ET) That the Pocket Sneakoscope actually *did* work? It went off when Scabbers (aka Pettigrew) and the Dursleys were around. And in the excitement of the evening no one actually put two and two together? Hopefully Harry will keep in on hand. Just a thought I had. Trina From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:30:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:30:00 -0400 Subject: Intro Message Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2278 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Intro Message Reply To: [Yahoo! #2275] Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Date: 6/19/00 10:30 am (ET) <I don't want to create work for you Penny! It was just a thought.> Don't get me wrong -- I very much appreciate the thought! I just wish it could be automated . . . I'm still hoping I'll get in touch with someone at Yahoo who will have the perfect solution for us. Yeah, right. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:33:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:33:00 -0400 Subject: Did anyone else notice... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2279 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Did anyone else notice... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2277] Did anyone else notice... Date: 6/19/00 10:33 am (ET) <That the Pocket Sneakoscope actually *did* work? It went off when Scabbers (aka Pettigrew) and the Dursleys were around.> I remember it going off twice around Scabbers (Pettigrew), but I don't remember it going off around the Dursleys. I feel sure Harry will keep it (he's kept it for years in one of the fanfics I follow -- Paradigm of Uncertainty). Penny From histtchr at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:36:00 2000 From: histtchr at yahoo.com (histtchr) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:36:00 -0400 Subject: Did anyone else notice... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2280 From: histtchr Subject: Re: Did anyone else notice... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2279] Re: Did anyone else notice... Date: 6/19/00 10:36 am (ET) Didn't the Sneakoscope go off when Harry first got it? --Jessica From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:38:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:38:00 -0400 Subject: Intro Message Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2281 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Intro Message Reply To: [Yahoo! #2278] Intro Message Date: 6/19/00 10:38 am (ET) <<-- I very much appreciate the thought! I just wish it could be automated . . I'm still hoping I'll get in touch with someone at Yahoo who will have the perfect solution for us.>> Penny, I think if you go into your founder's tools on the left of the screen and then click on options, you can send an email out to all of the members, whether their emails are listed or private. Hope this helps. (I've been fooling on the computer this morning trying to figure it our for you, as I have a very light workload today.) From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:40:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:40:00 -0400 Subject: Intro Message Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2282 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Intro Message Reply To: [Yahoo! #2281] Re: Intro Message Date: 6/19/00 10:40 am (ET) >From the Yahoo clubs help: Sending email to all club members Under "Admin Tools" on the left hand side, click on "Send Email." Write your message, and then click on "Send Mail." Note: Your email address will be revealed in the message you send. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 14:43:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 10:43:00 -0400 Subject: Did anyone else notice... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2283 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Did anyone else notice... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2280] Re: Did anyone else notice... Date: 6/19/00 10:43 am (ET) "Didn't the Sneakoscope go off when Harry first got it?" No. Ron says that it went off in Egypt before he sent it. He put this down to Fred and George putting beatles in Bill's soup or that he was sending it by Errol. Neither of these where meant to be going on! However he had Scabbers around and this fits with the earlier post. Simon From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 15:38:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:38:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter clubs/readable posting! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2284 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Re: Harry Potter clubs/readable posting! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2241] Re: Harry Potter clubs/readable posting! Date: 6/19/00 11:38 am (ET) <Also, david_the_bravest, don't take offence at people not acknowledging all your comments. The way you type and spell makes your posts *extremely* difficult to read (exhausting, in fact).> I'd like to add another reason your comments may not be acknowledged. And the same could be said for anyone's posts. I can only speak for myself, but when I reply to messages, I often do so right after reading that message, before going on to the others. Right now, for example, I have not read any posts beyond this one by Neil (the one to which I am replying). I may be repeating something someone has said in a later post, but if more people say the same thing, just think of that as reinforcement. From frostymane at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 15:50:00 2000 From: frostymane at yahoo.com (frostymane) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:50:00 -0400 Subject: Labyrinth Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2285 From: frostymane Subject: Labyrinth Date: 6/19/00 11:50 am (ET) Did you ever notice that Hoggle gets called Hogwart in the movie? From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:24:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:24:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's family Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2286 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Hagrid's family Reply To: [Yahoo! #2253] Re: Hagrid's family Date: 6/19/00 12:24 pm (ET) >> ...And if hagrid was reemitted, ...>> Just had to say it.... "ouch!" ;) Jen From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:28:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:28:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries & Inconsistencies Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2287 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Mysteries & Inconsistencies Reply To: [Yahoo! #2270] Mysteries & Inconsistencies Date: 6/19/00 12:28 pm (ET) I have a few unanswered questions, and maybe they ARE unanswerable: 1. What was in the letter that Dumbledore left with Harry on the Dursley's doorstep? We can assume that if Uncle Vernon destroyed it, Dumbledore has relayed any vital info that was in there to Harry, but I'd still like to have read it. 2. What became of Lord Voldemort's wand? Was it destroyed in the moment his curse on baby Harry rebounded, or was it picked up by someone? 3. Why were the Potters such major targets for Voldemort? Was there a prophecy about a member of the family defeating the Dark Lord? Dumbledore knows (see the hospital scene in the end of Book 1) but won't tell Harry. Were ALL the rest of Harry's family killed by Voldemort, or were they already dead by the time James and Lily were killed? (more questions to come, as they occur to me in the middle of the night...) 4. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:30:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:30:00 -0400 Subject: Ignored messages...and an observation Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2288 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Ignored messages...and an observation Date: 6/19/00 12:30 pm (ET) On the topic of being overlooked, it's worth stating the obvious - not every message creates a thread. I've often posted messages that just sat there, unloved (and so has every one of us, I imagine). I've also ignored fabulous questions posed by others and selfishly gone my own merry way. Which I'm about to do again... This thing about Harry *having* to stay with the Dursleys every summer is my No.1 dilemma at the moment. I've had a thought though - maybe it has nothing to do with the Dursleys at all. Maybe it's '4 Privet Drive' that is somehow protecting Harry from Voldemort. Could Dumbledore have placed a protective spell on the house? Otherwise, I can't see the point of placing Harry with his Muggle relatives as a baby, leaving him with no knowledge of his own magical powers, as a sitting duck for Voldemort. Logic would have placed Harry with a witch family and had him develop his magical powers as early as possible, so he could defend himself. Sorry if this theory is (a) repeating something posted before, (b) missing something really obvious or (c) too ****ing long to read. Neil From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:30:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:30:00 -0400 Subject: Yes, another casting question: Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2289 From: jenP_97 Subject: Yes, another casting question: Date: 6/19/00 12:30 pm (ET) As I'm sure everyone on the PoA list knows by know, the guy I'm not too fond of for posting irrelevant messages posted yet another one - but I decided it'd be relevant to THIS board, and so am boiling it down to this: Variety has reported that Tim Roth (_Rob Roy_, others) is in negotiations to play Snape. I never even thought of him before, but now that he's mentioned, I think he's sufficiently creepy, and yet possibly redeemable - and just the right age to play Snape. What do you guys think? Jen From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:31:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:31:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries & Inconsistencies Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2290 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Mysteries & Inconsistencies Reply To: [Yahoo! #2287] Re: Mysteries & Inconsistencies Date: 6/19/00 12:31 pm (ET) <3. Why were the Potters such major targets for Voldemort? Was there a prophecy about a member of the family defeating the Dark Lord? Dumbledore knows (see the hospital scene in the end of Book 1) but won't tell Harry.> Dumbledore's comment about this has always mystified me. He says that when Harry is old enough 'he will know'. It does not suggest that anyone will tell him but that he will figure it out! Simon From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:32:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:32:00 -0400 Subject: LATEST NEWS - Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2291 From: Danemead Subject: Re: LATEST NEWS - Reply To: [Yahoo! #2250] LATEST NEWS - "Official" Fan Club Date: 6/19/00 12:32 pm (ET) >>>>>Nick wrote: The Christopher Little Literacy Agency has contacted me this morning by letter regarding an "official" Fan Club. They say... and I quote... "developments for an official fan club are well advanced. Unfortunately, we cannot divulge any more about it at this stage."<<<< They sure are taking their time about it. Why don't you write back and ask if they have any *paid* positions open in their organization -- you might get lucky! From msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:33:00 2000 From: msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com (msjanedoe31) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:33:00 -0400 Subject: please clarify Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2292 From: msjanedoe31 Subject: please clarify Date: 6/19/00 12:33 pm (ET) What does J.K. stand for in the author's name? Melissa From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:33:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:33:00 -0400 Subject: Yes, another casting question: Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2293 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Yes, another casting question: Reply To: [Yahoo! #2289] Yes, another casting question: Date: 6/19/00 12:33 pm (ET) <PoA list> Am I missing something? PoA list? Where is ti? Simon From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:35:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:35:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's family Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2294 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Hagrid's family Reply To: [Yahoo! #2286] Re: Hagrid's family Date: 6/19/00 12:35 pm (ET) >>>>>> ...And if hagrid was reemitted, ...>> Just had to say it.... "ouch!" ;) Jen <<<<< ROFLMAO! I want my epidural!! Hagrid's mommy MUST have been a giant, or else she died in childbirth. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:35:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:35:00 -0400 Subject: please clarify Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2295 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: please clarify Reply To: [Yahoo! #2292] please clarify Date: 6/19/00 12:35 pm (ET) "What does J.K. stand for in the author's name?" Joanne Kathleen From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:35:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:35:00 -0400 Subject: Yes, another casting question: Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2296 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Yes, another casting question: Reply To: [Yahoo! #2293] Re: Yes, another casting question: Date: 6/19/00 12:35 pm (ET) Ack! Sorry, PoU. Paradigm of Uncertainty, a fanfic by Lori Summers. Duh... smack me now, I feel SO dumb. ;) Jen PoU PoU PoU PoU PoU (and on and on until I finally remember. Heck, it's been so darn long since we've gotten an installment, I think I should be pardoned for the mistake) From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:37:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:37:00 -0400 Subject: Yes, another casting question: Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2297 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Yes, another casting question: Reply To: [Yahoo! #2296] Re: Yes, another casting question: Date: 6/19/00 12:37 pm (ET) "Sorry, PoU. Paradigm of Uncertainty, a fanfic by Lori Summers." That fanfic is quite good. Sorry my brain did not make the leap that it may have been a mistype! Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:38:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:38:00 -0400 Subject: PoA...U Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2298 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: PoA...U Reply To: [Yahoo! #2296] Re: Yes, another casting question: Date: 6/19/00 12:38 pm (ET) That solves that one! I was about to ask the same thing, assuming there was a Prisoner of Azkaban board somewhere. I'm less than keen on the fanfic, dare I say. :) Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:41:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:41:00 -0400 Subject: Snape Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2299 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Snape Date: 6/19/00 12:41 pm (ET) I wouldn't have thought of Tim Roth, but he could do it, as could his mate, Gary Oldman. Neil PS - I might have another go at PoU - it seems very popular here... From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:41:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:41:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's family Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2300 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Hagrid's family Reply To: [Yahoo! #2256] Re: Hagrid's family Date: 6/19/00 12:41 pm (ET) People may act like stupid idiots at Hogwarts, but even those "idiots" seem to do well on their final exams. Crabbe and Goyle, the Neanderthals, pass their tests (and I imagine there is a "no cheating" spell in force). And WHY was bumbling pseudo-Squib Neville placed in Gryffindor? Obviously, because he has hidden talent, hidden reserves of bravery, and (as someone has so intelligently posted before) he merely LACKS CONFIDENCE in himself. He has the POTENTIAL, the Sorting Hat could see it. I still think Hogwarts is reserved for the best of the magical students, like Harvard, Yale and Stanford here in the USA (no offense to any else's alma mater). From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 16:47:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 12:47:00 -0400 Subject: C & G Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2301 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: C & G Reply To: [Yahoo! #2300] Re: Hagrid's family Date: 6/19/00 12:47 pm (ET) "Crabbe and Goyle, the Neanderthals, pass their tests" I wonder which classes they do well in? I can't see them shining in Divination or Care of Magical Creatures and they're hardly going to be like gazelles on their broomsticks. So they must do really well in DADA and Potions, to balance it out, I guess. Neil From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 17:16:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:16:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries & Inconsistencies Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2302 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Mysteries & Inconsistencies Reply To: [Yahoo! #2270] Mysteries & Inconsistencies Date: 6/19/00 1:16 pm (ET) <<Joywitch999 -- what a great compilation of the various mysteries and inconsistencies that we've bandied about for the last months!! I am glad you appreciate them, Penny. It is amazing what you can come up with to do when you are suppose to be sitting at your computer writing all day, but all you can really think about is how much you would like to be reading the next Harry Potter book! I never thought I would become so obsessed by a bunch of kids books but somehow I am -- perhaps the greatest HP mystery of them all! From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 17:18:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:18:00 -0400 Subject: Schools Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2303 From: hert0661 Subject: Schools Reply To: [Yahoo! #2300] Re: Hagrid's family Date: 6/19/00 1:18 pm (ET) <I still think Hogwarts is reserved for the best of the magical students, like Harvard, Yale and Stanford here in the USA (no offense to any else's alma mater).> More like Oxford as it is based in the UK. Simon, with a little pride creeping in! From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 17:27:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:27:00 -0400 Subject: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2304 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Reply To: [Yahoo! #2239] Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Date: 6/19/00 1:27 pm (ET) ok, you mentioned no age restrictions so would 16 count as adult because most of the other clubs seem to be aimed at 7-13 year olds. if anyone doesn't want me here then just tell me to go away and i will but i think its a really cool club!! From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 17:32:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:32:00 -0400 Subject: book4 spoiler/discussion Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2305 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: book4 spoiler/discussion Reply To: [Yahoo! #2244] Re: Hagrid's family Date: 6/19/00 1:32 pm (ET) ok spoiler thing here so im just filling up the first two lines so people don't have to read it. Ok, that fitted in well. As many people know someone close to Harry dies in book four....so, who do people think it is? (it isn't Ron or Hermione(did i spell that right?)) im placing my bets on one of the weasley's......or how about Sirius. ok, thats just my penny's worth in the pot *g* liz From triner2001 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 17:50:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 13:50:00 -0400 Subject: Ignored messages...and an observatio Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2306 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Ignored messages...and an observatio Reply To: [Yahoo! #2288] Ignored messages...and an observation Date: 6/19/00 1:50 pm (ET) As to why Harry was left in the care of the Dursleys (much to McGonagall's horror) Dumbledore expains it as "Famous before he can walk and talk!Can't you see how much better off he'll be, growing up away from all that until he's ready to take it?" But why he can't just hang with the Weasleys during the summer holidays now, I don't know. Maybe his "suffering through" the Dursley summers make him appreciate more the wizarding world that is his birthright so that he doesn't take it for granted. Trina From jeanne_1013 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 18:03:00 2000 From: jeanne_1013 at yahoo.com (jeanne_1013) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:03:00 -0400 Subject: book4 spoiler/discussion Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2307 From: jeanne_1013 Subject: Re: book4 spoiler/discussion Reply To: [Yahoo! #2305] book4 spoiler/discussion Date: 6/19/00 2:03 pm (ET) ***Spoilers*** x x x x x x x x x x I heard @ a fan site that it's going to be Dumbledore who dies(!). I hope not! Also, it might be the new girl JK's been talking about; isn't she supposed to be a relative of the Malfoys? From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 18:03:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:03:00 -0400 Subject: Summers with the Dursleys Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2308 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Summers with the Dursleys Date: 6/19/00 2:03 pm (ET) Well, each summer, something more interesting happens at the Dursley's. I imagine that soon, things will get pretty fun during the summertime. After Aunt Marge, I can only hope something spectacular happens... From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 18:11:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:11:00 -0400 Subject: Another pointless question.... :) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2309 From: Danemead Subject: Another pointless question.... :) Date: 6/19/00 2:11 pm (ET) In PoA, Lupin asks that the boggart in the staff room be left for his third-years to practice on. He uses it for the Gryffindor class, but they destroy it, so what do the other houses do in THEIR class? Silly question, I know... maybe there's plenty of other boggarts around. Lupin does find another one in Filch's filing cabinet. Wonder what Lupin's classroom supply budget looks like... he's got to buy quite a few critters to be "defeated" by all the upperclassmen/women. I think someone else brought up the question of tuition to Hogwarts. It must cost a bundle to keep that place supplied with food and whatnot for a couple hundred kids. Poor Weasleys -- imagine trying to pay for five children's tuitions & supplies at once. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 18:12:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:12:00 -0400 Subject: Summers with the Dursleys Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2310 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Summers with the Dursleys Reply To: [Yahoo! #2308] Summers with the Dursleys Date: 6/19/00 2:12 pm (ET) I think there will eventually be an explanation given for why Harry must put up with the Dursley's, but I think that Ms. Rowling's true reasoning is purely to give the readers that first bit of comic relief. Especially if the books are purportedly going to become darker and darker. It also gives the reader that first bit of sympathy for Harry which becomes empathy further on into the book. This writer really knows what she is doing! Just my little opinion. voicelady (Ya' know, I don't think I've done anything productive at work here today...) From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 18:15:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:15:00 -0400 Subject: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2311 From: Danemead Subject: Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Reply To: [Yahoo! #2304] Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Date: 6/19/00 2:15 pm (ET) >>>>ok, you mentioned no age restrictions so would 16 count as adult because most of the other clubs seem to be aimed at 7-13 year olds. if anyone doesn't want me here then just tell me to go away and i will but i think its a really cool club!! <<< "Adult" is a state of mind more than a chronological age. There are quite a few people under 18 in the club, and most are quite intelligent and literate. Their posts are a pleasure to read. I think most people will be able to see within a week or so whether they fit in the "grown-up" category or not. (That's not to say that we old fogies waive the right to be childish! We revel in silliness at times.) From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 18:25:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:25:00 -0400 Subject: Another pointless question.... :) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2312 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: Another pointless question.... :) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2309] Another pointless question.... :) Date: 6/19/00 2:25 pm (ET) <<It must cost a bundle to keep that place supplied with food and whatnot for a couple hundred kids>> Food seems to be supplied magically, also, Hagrid is the gamekeeper and seems there are gardens (maybe Madame Sprout supplies the veggies). Could be that there is no tuition. Perhaps it is paid for by wizard taxes taken in at Hogsmede. From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 18:28:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 14:28:00 -0400 Subject: Summers with the Dursleys Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2313 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Summers with the Dursleys Reply To: [Yahoo! #2310] Re: Summers with the Dursleys Date: 6/19/00 2:28 pm (ET) >>>> It also gives the reader that first bit of sympathy for Harry which becomes empathy further on into the book. This writer really knows what she is doing!<<<< It's the old Cinderella story, among others. Or as I mentioned before, certain versions of the King Arthur story, where the child is poor and downtrodden and abused, but turns out to be the Hero or the Princess. The early childhood experiences give them "character and humility" (at least in the fairy tales). This is a fantasy, not real life... even JKR says she doesn't believe in the witchcraft. She's creating this story from a long line of literature already imprinted in our genetic codes! From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:04:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:04:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2314 From: hert0661 Subject: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2282] Re: Intro Message Date: 6/19/00 3:04 pm (ET) Maybe as we are growing so quickly an FAQ is needed. This can be then held as a web page somewhere and when newbies ask for information they could be directed towards it. It could then include all of the points that have come up over the last few days about posting to this message board. Any other thoughts? Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:13:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:13:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2315 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2314] FAQ Date: 6/19/00 3:13 pm (ET) Perhaps it's more OER (Occasionally Enforced Rules) we need than an FAQ - but good idea! Mind you, easy Qs like 'when is book 4 out?' and 'what does JK stand for?' could be covered by an FAQ. Someone has to volunteer to do it though. We can't just expect Penny to wave her magic wand :) Neil From pt4ever at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:21:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:21:00 -0400 Subject: Harry & the Dursleys Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2316 From: pt4ever Subject: Harry & the Dursleys Reply To: [Yahoo! #2288] Ignored messages...and an observation Date: 6/19/00 3:21 pm (ET) >>> This thing about Harry *having* to stay with the Dursleys every summer is my No.1 dilemma at the moment. I've had a thought though - maybe it has nothing to do with the Dursleys at all. Maybe it's '4 Privet Drive' that is somehow protecting Harry from Voldemort. Could Dumbledore have placed a protective spell on the house? >>> Perhaps there is a Fidelus Charm on the Dursley's house and Dumbledore (or perhaps McGonagall, maybe even Hagrid) is Secret-Keeper. That way, if Voldemort somehow tried to find Harry during the summer, he wouldn't be able to do so, which is why Harry must stay there. When Harry is at Hogwarts, staying with the Weasleys, or in Diagon Alley, there are so many other witches and wizards around that he doesn't have to worry about being protected. Just a thought... -- JoAnna From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:24:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:24:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2317 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2315] Re: FAQ Date: 6/19/00 3:24 pm (ET) <Mind you, easy Qs like 'when is book 4 out?' and 'what does JK stand for?' could be covered by an FAQ.> And then all we have to do is agree on a pronunciation for Hermione! Simon From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:29:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:29:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2318 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2317] Re: FAQ Date: 6/19/00 3:29 pm (ET) Let's go for a french pronunciation... Like Her-mwon. I know, it's not right, but we could be creative and have a contest on just how many ways we can come up with to pronounce it. Her-me-onne Her-my-onne Her-mee-oh-nee Her-MY-oh-nee Her-mi-nee Her-mynee etc. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:31:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:31:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2319 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Hermione Reply To: [Yahoo! #2318] Re: FAQ Date: 6/19/00 3:31 pm (ET) <Like Her-mwon. I know, it's not right, but we could be creative and have a contest on just how many ways we can come up with to pronounce it.> I will always in my mind say Her-mi-one-ken-obi. A friend made this comment when Star Wars mania was around last year! Simon From Troubadesse at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:33:00 2000 From: Troubadesse at yahoo.com (Troubadesse) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:33:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2320 From: Troubadesse Subject: Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2317] Re: FAQ Date: 6/19/00 3:33 pm (ET) Hi - another question about Hermione. Are you guys talking about Hermione Granger? I was just wondering since it simply says "Hermine" in the German translation. So I was rather puzzled when you were talking about a certain Hermione, but I figured out it had to be her. I only read the first book so far and I can't wait to read the other ones as well! I might read them in English though, let's wait and see... Cheers, Troubadesse From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:41:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:41:00 -0400 Subject: Another pointless question.... :) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2322 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Another pointless question.... :) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2312] Re: Another pointless question.... :) Date: 6/19/00 3:41 pm (ET) >>>>Could be that there is no tuition. Perhaps it is paid for by wizard taxes taken in at Hogsmede. <<<< Hogwarts is a boarding school... I don't think taxes pay for all that (at least not in the real world -- taxes hardly pay for anything in schools around here). And they do seem to have kitchens, since James Potter used the Invisibility Cloak to steal food (according to Dumbledore). (I thought it was cute in the "Cub Scout" fanfic when James loaned the cloak to Remus and told him to go steal a side of beef for himself.) The kids don't seem to be able to CONJURE the food (otherwise they wouldn't go into Hogsmeade and buy candy). Which brings up another question... WHY are the Weasleys so "poor" -- aren't wizards allowed to conjure up new clothes for themselves? I got the impression sometimes that Mrs. Weasley was "conjuring" the meals during Harry's visit with them, but I'm wondering if she wasn't just conjuring the recipes, and the food had to be bought in the first place. Seems like they ought to be able to use a little magic to improve the living conditions. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:47:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:47:00 -0400 Subject: Another pointless question.... :) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2323 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Another pointless question.... :) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2322] Re: Another pointless question.... :) Date: 6/19/00 3:47 pm (ET) <Which brings up another question... WHY are the Weasleys so "poor" -- aren't wizards allowed to conjure up new clothes for themselves? I got the impression sometimes that Mrs. Weasley was "conjuring" the meals during Harry's visit with them, but I'm wondering if she wasn't just conjuring the recipes, and the food had to be bought in the first place. Seems like they ought to be able to use a little magic to improve the living conditions.> Conjuring something from nothing is probably very difficult - if not impossible. Where as changing one thing to another does not seem to be to difficult. Mrs Weasley - probably just conjuring to make the already bought food into a meal very quickly. Simon From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:48:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:48:00 -0400 Subject: Book 4 Rumors Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2324 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Book 4 Rumors Date: 6/19/00 3:48 pm (ET) I had read in a rumors page of a fan site (of course now I can't find it) that some one had posted a few chapters from the book on-line. Has anyone else heard this? Does anyone have the site link? From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:48:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:48:00 -0400 Subject: Harry & the Dursleys Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2325 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Harry & the Dursleys Reply To: [Yahoo! #2316] Harry & the Dursleys Date: 6/19/00 3:48 pm (ET) >>>>Perhaps there is a Fidelus Charm on the Dursley's house and Dumbledore (or perhaps McGonagall, maybe even Hagrid) is Secret-Keeper. That way, if Voldemort somehow tried to find Harry during the summer, he wouldn't be able to do so, which is why Harry must stay there. <<<<< Good point... When Harry storms out in Book 3, everyone goes berserk trying to find him before Sirius Black does. Were there people watching the house? Harry sees Sirius only a few blocks from where he lives, just before the Knight Bus picks him up. Did the wizard community feel that Harry was "safe" at the Dursley's, but not outside the house? Dobby got into the house in Book 2, so if there's something protecting Harry, it's obviously not impervious. From christineoswell at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:36:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:36:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione was Re: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2321 From: christineoswell Subject: Hermione was Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2318] Re: FAQ Date: 6/19/00 3:36 pm (ET) you forgot Her-moy-nee :o) From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:54:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:54:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2326 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2315] Re: FAQ Date: 6/19/00 3:54 pm (ET) I'd be happy to set it up on my web site. Since I've used so many ideas generated from this club, I'd be happy to give something back. (I'm currently working on a fan vs fanatic quiz--if it's all right with you, Neil.) Let me know either way. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:55:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:55:00 -0400 Subject: Harry & the Dursleys Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2327 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry & the Dursleys Reply To: [Yahoo! #2325] Re: Harry & the Dursleys Date: 6/19/00 3:55 pm (ET) <Good point... When Harry storms out in Book 3, everyone goes berserk trying to find him before Sirius Black does. Were there people watching the house? Harry sees Sirius only a few blocks from where he lives, just before the Knight Bus picks him up. Did the wizard community feel that Harry was "safe" at the Dursley's, but not outside the house? Dobby got into the house in Book 2, so if there's something protecting Harry, it's obviously not impervious. > But Dobby got into and out of Hogwarts which is supposedly impossible. I don't think the house is being watched. If it were, then one of the people watching would have stopped Harry for his protection. I guess there are some kind of spells on it to tell the ministry or Dumbledore what is going on there. This would also explain why Harry gets the reminder about no magic so quickly! Simon From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:55:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:55:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2328 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2326] Re: FAQ Date: 6/19/00 3:55 pm (ET) Ravenclawlady, What is your URL? From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:56:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:56:00 -0400 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2329 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Casting Date: 6/19/00 3:56 pm (ET) Don't know about you kids, but I think this is great news. http://mrshowbiz.go.com/news/Todays_Stories/619/timrothpotter061900.html From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 19:57:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 15:57:00 -0400 Subject: Book 4 Rumors Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2330 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Book 4 Rumors Reply To: [Yahoo! #2324] Book 4 Rumors Date: 6/19/00 3:57 pm (ET) <I had read in a rumors page of a fan site (of course now I can't find it) that some one had posted a few chapters from the book on-line. Has anyone else heard this? Does anyone have the site link? > I do not know the link but have visited the site and read a little of 'chapter 1'. From what I read it was clearly in a different style to the other Harry Potter books and so I came to the conclusion that it is a fake. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 20:00:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:00:00 -0400 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2331 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2329] Casting Date: 6/19/00 4:00 pm (ET) About Tim Roth for Severus Snape! I think he seems to be a good choice. I could not get why the article made a comment about him doing a good American accent. What has that got to do with Snape? Simon From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 20:01:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:01:00 -0400 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2332 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2329] Casting Date: 6/19/00 4:01 pm (ET) Excellent, I really likr Tim Roths work, he has a great acting range, I think Snape is just up his alley. From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 20:01:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:01:00 -0400 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2333 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2329] Casting Date: 6/19/00 4:01 pm (ET) Excellent, I really like Tim Roths work, he has a great acting range, I think Snape is just up his alley. From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 20:01:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:01:00 -0400 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2334 From: yrbecca_call Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2333] Re: Casting Date: 6/19/00 4:01 pm (ET) Whoops! Sorry! From fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 20:03:00 2000 From: fawkesthephoenix at yahoo.com (fawkesthephoenix) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:03:00 -0400 Subject: Hogwarts and Tuition... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2335 From: fawkesthephoenix Subject: Hogwarts and Tuition... Date: 6/19/00 4:03 pm (ET) Ok, I think I have a working theory. Hogwarts would need very little in tuition as the school was built hundreds of years ago and could be kept up by magic. There is no need for electricity, so no electric bill. The plumbing is probably charmed. Repairs would be done magically. Food could be supplied on the property. Only the salaries of the teachers and the various supplies would be needed and that could conceivably be paid for by W.A.R.T.S. (Wizarding Arts and Refreshments Tax System). ;^) From CarverWB at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 20:10:00 2000 From: CarverWB at yahoo.com (CarverWB) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:10:00 -0400 Subject: Hogwarts and Tuition... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2336 From: CarverWB Subject: Re: Hogwarts and Tuition... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2335] Hogwarts and Tuition... Date: 6/19/00 4:10 pm (ET) <Hogwarts would need very little in tuition as the school was built hundreds of years ago and could be kept up by magic. > and until very recently supplied with gold by Mr. and Mrs. N. Flammel? (just a though) From BonBon_076 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 20:33:00 2000 From: BonBon_076 at yahoo.com (BonBon_076) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:33:00 -0400 Subject: hello Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2337 From: BonBon_076 Subject: hello Date: 6/19/00 4:33 pm (ET) Hello everyone, I would like to say hi. I started reading the Harry Potter books a few weeks ago and could not put them down. A professor of mine absolutely loves them and kept on and on about them so I decided to read them. I have not read anything that captivated me like these books did in a long time. Well I hope to talk about these books with some people. Later, BonBon From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 20:45:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:45:00 -0400 Subject: book4 spoiler/discussion Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2338 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: book4 spoiler/discussion Reply To: [Yahoo! #2307] Re: book4 spoiler/discussion Date: 6/19/00 4:45 pm (ET) is the spoiler warning clear enough cos if it isn't then this is here to solve that ok, last book ever and book four spoiler so once more im babbling so u dont have to read this if you don't want to. ok, book seven spoiler..................... rumour has it that hogwarts is/almost is distroyed in book seven. harry finds out why v. wanted to kill him (remember the reference in hp&ps?) dumbledore is also rumoured to die then. some say that this has been confirmed From babynick34 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 20:47:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:47:00 -0400 Subject: Translations - Was Re: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2339 From: babynick34 Subject: Translations - Was Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2320] Re: FAQ Date: 6/19/00 4:47 pm (ET) >Are you guys talking about Hermione Granger? I was just wondering since it simply says "Hermine" in the German translation. Now here's a good point... I had always thought that the translations would have kept the same character names. After all, that's the way it usually is. But it seems that from what Troubadesse says, the German version has changed the spelling of Hermione. I wonder how many other characters are affected by name changes? Nick From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 20:48:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:48:00 -0400 Subject: book4 spoiler/discussion Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2340 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: book4 spoiler/discussion Reply To: [Yahoo! #2307] Re: book4 spoiler/discussion Date: 6/19/00 4:48 pm (ET) book four spoiler yadda yadda yadda. lalalalalala space filling s people don't have to read lalalala ok, new girl (harry's girlfriend): i reckon its gonns be cho chang...no prizes for guessing how i arrived at that conclusion. i don't think she's a reletive cos of her name. sounds kinda chinesey (is that a word) ok, that was mainly opinion and speculation. sorry bout the bad typing and spelling. had a german exam today so still not thinking in english properly!!! From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 20:52:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:52:00 -0400 Subject: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2341 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Reply To: [Yahoo! #2311] Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Date: 6/19/00 4:52 pm (ET) ok, neat, well i hope you'll find the posts to your liking (boy did that sound rude, sorry) in case anyone is thinking that this is kinda random then look at the post below (cos it's the original) hope once again that i labeled the spoilers well enough. scream at me if i didn't. like the idea of it being 700 pages..no there's something to do in german. i've just realsied that i've hardly talked bout hp so i'll shut up now!!! here are the original messages! >>>>ok, you mentioned no age restrictions so would 16 count as adult because most of the other clubs seem to be aimed at 7-13 year olds. if anyone doesn't want me here then just tell me to go away and i will but i think its a really cool club!! <<< "Adult" is a state of mind more than a chronological age. There are quite a few people under 18 in the club, and most are quite intelligent and literate. Their posts are a pleasure to read. I think most people will be able to see within a week or so whether they fit in the "grown-up" category or not. (That's not to say that we old fogies waive the right to be childish! We revel in silliness at times.) From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 20:56:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:56:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2342 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2315] Re: FAQ Date: 6/19/00 4:56 pm (ET) if anyone wants me to FAQ then im quite happy to give it a go. as im still in school, if i don't know then there are bound to be others that do. stick up a post if you want me to do it cos im happy to but i wouldn't want to stop someone else. From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 20:57:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:57:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 1 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2343 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 1 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2215] Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 1 Date: 6/19/00 4:57 pm (ET) >Why doesn't Harry ever seem to give anyone presents, only get them? This is the ever-popular "Harry as Scrooge" question. My answer is that, as you say, it is how JKR writes. She might have written at some point, to paraphrase Louisa May Alcott: "Everyone got Christmas presents, but we will only discuss Harry's, because it is with he that we have the most to do, the other characters being of only secondary importance." (I must admit, however, that I'm glad JKR never wrote such a passage -- I don't consider Ron, Hermione, Hagrid, etc. to be of only "secondary importance".) >Why did James Potter give Dumbledore the invisibility cloak? Wouldn't an invisibility >cloak be a useful thing to have around if an evil wizard were looking for you? It seems obvious to me that Dumbledore can "see through" the cloak -- Perhaps Voldemort could too. From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 20:58:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 16:58:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2344 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2317] Re: FAQ Date: 6/19/00 4:58 pm (ET) her-mi-o-nee i used to say herm-in-on (oooops!!) From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 21:02:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:02:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 1 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2345 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 1 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2343] Re: Mysteries and inconsistencies Pt 1 Date: 6/19/00 5:02 pm (ET) <It seems obvious to me that Dumbledore can "see through" the cloak -- Perhaps Voldemort could too.> What evidence do you have for this as I can think of none. <Why doesn't Harry ever seem to give anyone presents, only get them?> As the book is written in such a way that we only see, hear and understand what it is that Harry does then it is unimportant for us to see him giving as this would have little effect on a young teenager. Also, I get the impression that, along with him having received rubbish presents, he will never have given anything to the Dursley's. Simon From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 21:02:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:02:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2346 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2320] Re: FAQ Date: 6/19/00 5:02 pm (ET) ja wir sprechen uber hermione. ok thats the limits of my german without a dictionary but there you go. From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 21:20:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:20:00 -0400 Subject: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2347 From: Danemead Subject: Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Reply To: [Yahoo! #2341] Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Date: 6/19/00 5:20 pm (ET) >>>>>ok, neat, well i hope you'll find the posts to your liking (boy did that sound rude, sorry)<<< I enjoy reading your posts! I don't expect to agree with everything everyone says. Sometimes I feel like answering back with my opinion, and sometimes I'll just shrug and move on. Sometimes I'm not as kind in my writing as I ought to be, and then I'm ashamed of myself. :) From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 21:30:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:30:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2348 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2216] Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Date: 6/19/00 5:30 pm (ET) >In Book 1, Nearly Headless Nick says he hasn't eaten anything in nearly 400 years, but in book 2 >it turns out he's been dead for 500 years. Which is it? [An observant person somewhere noted that >the way Nick is dressed -- in ruffs and tights -- was the fashion of 400 years ago, not 500.] It also seems to me that it makes more sense that Nick lived during the era of Henry VIII and/or "Bloody Mary" (1500's) when there was much persecution/beheadings going on. (I can't believe Nick was executed for an actual *crime*.) I think he can't remember *when* he died. (Hence my rejection of his deathday cake as textual evidence of when the books take place.) >What happened to the other Patil twin, Parvati's twin sister...? Parvati's twin could be a boy. >How come Moaning Myrtle is able to flood the bathroom? She could be a poltergeist. >Do Harry and Hermione show up twice on the Marauder's Map while they are time traveling? We don't know... It's been suggested that the Map is "confused" by time travelers and doesn't show them. >Also, how come none of the above people except >Lupin ever notice while looking at the map that >Ron is always accompanied by Peter Pettigrew? I think Ron and Pettigrew are always off the Map (in Hogsmeade) when Harry looks, ditto when Snape looks at it. As for Fred and George, I get the impression that they used the map primarily for finding the secret passages and avoiding teachers, and maybe didn't pay much attention to students (especially siblings) or their compainions. >In Book 3, when they are returning to the castle >from the Shrieking Shack, Lupin turns into a werewolf >when the clouds part to show the full moon. But if he only changes when the full moon is visible, why >doesn't he just stay inside? He says that he transformed in the Shack. Clouds must have some special property that blocks the moonlight's effect. >Why do the dementors try to give Harry the kiss of death? I see the dementors as being a bit like mindless robots (in fact they remind me strongly of "Gort" in _The Day the Earth Stood Still_), and they may have been "programming" to finish off anyone who seemed to be helping Sirius. This may be why Snape thought the dementors would give the Kiss to Lupin. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 21:40:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:40:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2349 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2326] Re: FAQ Date: 6/19/00 5:40 pm (ET) "(I'm currently working on a fan vs fanatic quiz--if it's all right with you, Neil.)" I was about to register the idea as a trademark, but since it's you ;) Neil PS - you have my vote to do the FAQ - now you just have to persuade the other 214 or so members! PS - From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 21:45:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:45:00 -0400 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2350 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2329] Casting Date: 6/19/00 5:45 pm (ET) Well, I've already said that Tim Roth would be a good Snape, so I'll take this opportunity to repeat my previous glee at this prospect. He's a great actor. I think the reference to the American accent is just a comment on his talent. "He does voices, tap dances and makes shadow puppets!" [don't worry, I just made that up]. Robbie Coltrane as Hagrid though? I had him down for Vernon Dursley - he's made for that part. Neil From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 22:30:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:30:00 -0400 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2351 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2350] Re: Casting Date: 6/19/00 6:30 pm (ET) Tim Roth? Didn't he play that nasty guy in Rob Roy? If we are talking about the same person, I think he will be great!!! From triner2001 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 22:42:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:42:00 -0400 Subject: Casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2352 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2351] Re: Casting Date: 6/19/00 6:42 pm (ET) Yes, Tim Roth did play the nasty guy in Rob Roy. And I do think he'd be an excellent Snape. And as much as I admire Maggie Smith, somehow she doesn't fit my image of McGonagall. I imagine her to be a little bit younger, somewhere mid40's-mid50's. And if I may look forward to CoS movie, I think Phillip Bretherton who plays Alistair in "As Time Goes By" (love the show. I watch it every week on my local PBS station) would be a perfect Gilderoy Lockhart. Trina From triner2001 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 22:45:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:45:00 -0400 Subject: Spoilers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2353 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Spoilers Date: 6/19/00 6:45 pm (ET) I don't think we need to use spoiler alerts quite yet since the book isn't out yet. So far everything has been rumours and heresay, which I don't think will ruin anyone's enjoyment of Number 4. But after July 8th... Trina From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 22:52:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:52:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2354 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2348] Re: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Date: 6/19/00 6:52 pm (ET) >>It also seems to me that it makes more sense that Nick lived during the era of Henry VIII and/or "Bloody Mary" (1500's) when there was much persecution/beheadings going on. I think he can't remember *when* he died. (Hence my rejection of his deathday cake as textual evidence of when the books take place.) That is a good point. However, I have to disagree with your statements that (1) Parvatis twin could be a boy and (2) Moaning Myrtle could be a poltergeist. It is easy to overlook but Book 1 does clearly state that the Sorting Hat sorts *a pair of twin girls, Patil and Patil*. Also IMO the books make a pretty clear distinction between ghosts and poltergeists, and I think it is pretty clear that Myrtle is a ghost. From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 22:55:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:55:00 -0400 Subject: casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2355 From: joywitch999 Subject: casting Date: 6/19/00 6:55 pm (ET) How about Patrick Stewart as Dumbledore? From CarverWB at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 22:57:00 2000 From: CarverWB at yahoo.com (CarverWB) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 18:57:00 -0400 Subject: casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2356 From: CarverWB Subject: Re: casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2355] casting Date: 6/19/00 6:57 pm (ET) <How about Patrick Stewart as Dumbledore? > No! No! JIM DALE as dumbledore definately JIM DALE From triner2001 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 23:00:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:00:00 -0400 Subject: casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2357 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2355] casting Date: 6/19/00 7:00 pm (ET) I would never say no to Patrick Stewart! Also, how about Geoffrey Palmer for Cornelius Fudge? From what I read on some of the movie sites,they may be doing both HP1 and CoS at the same time to decrease costs an d use the same sets, so we might as well think ahead. Trina From emh_3000 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 23:07:00 2000 From: emh_3000 at yahoo.com (emh_3000) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:07:00 -0400 Subject: Younger members of This Club Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2358 From: emh_3000 Subject: Younger members of This Club Date: 6/19/00 7:07 pm (ET) I am posting a message to recruit some of the younger members out there. I have a club, Harry Potter's Place http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/harrypottersplace Where teens/young adults can Role Play, discuss Harry Potter and so on. You don't have to be a kid, only young at heart :-P. ~Eric From CarverWB at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 23:07:00 2000 From: CarverWB at yahoo.com (CarverWB) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:07:00 -0400 Subject: casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2359 From: CarverWB Subject: Re: casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2357] Re: casting Date: 6/19/00 7:07 pm (ET) <I would never say no to Patrick Stewart! > Ok, how about Jim Dale for Dumbledore and Patrick Steward for Lucius Malfoy ? From msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 23:10:00 2000 From: msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com (msjanedoe31) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:10:00 -0400 Subject: disappointed Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2360 From: msjanedoe31 Subject: disappointed Date: 6/19/00 7:10 pm (ET) Today I received a letter from merchandising at Barnes & Noble regarding my pre-ordered copy of #4. The letter stated that the excitement and anticipation generated by the Harry Potter phenomenon has reached epic proportions. Due to this excitement, the publisher has undertaken some unusual restrictions on all retailers (including Internet companies). All retailers are prohibited from selling and are banned from shipping Harry Potter IV before Saturday, July 8th, (ouch that hurts.) This now means that my copy won't be shipped until the 8th and received at my home no later than July 12th. Barnes & Noble will be celebrating the book release by staying open late on Friday, July 7th in order to host midnight parties and begin selling the book at midnight. The celebrations are to continue throughout the week-end with the making of pointed hats, wands, etc. So, I have decided to pull the plug on my order, attend the midnight party and purchase my book then. It will simply crush me to know that others have started on page 1 without me. Have a magical day, Melissa From Danemead at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 23:16:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:16:00 -0400 Subject: disappointed Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2361 From: Danemead Subject: Re: disappointed Reply To: [Yahoo! #2360] disappointed Date: 6/19/00 7:16 pm (ET) According to an article just posted to harrypotteranonymous at e-groups, Amazon.com is upgrading the shipping (for free!) on the first 250,000 copies of #4 to FedEx delivery. Theoretically, that would mean you would receive the book on July 8 -- however, since it's a Saturday, this may not be completely true. I don't know if FedEx delivers in all areas on Saturday. From Gwenyfhar at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 23:16:00 2000 From: Gwenyfhar at yahoo.com (Gwenyfhar) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:16:00 -0400 Subject: hello! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2362 From: Gwenyfhar Subject: hello! Date: 6/19/00 7:16 pm (ET) hi! i hope nobody minds my joining the club and posting right away, but i was looking through some past messages concerning the pronounciation of hermione. i don't know if the problem's been solved yet, but i had some input: i saw an interview between j.k. rowling and rosie o'donnel where ms. rowling says she pronounces it like her-my-oh-knee. i'm so excited about book four coming out! i've just finished reading the first 3 books for the third time in preparation =) has anybody else noticed that the harry potter books, unlike a lot of other books, are really easy to read and re-read? they never seem to get boring. From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Mon Jun 19 23:48:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 19:48:00 -0400 Subject: casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2363 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2359] Re: casting Date: 6/19/00 7:48 pm (ET) I think Jeremy Irons would be a good Lucius Malfoy..... From msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 00:12:00 2000 From: msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com (msjanedoe31) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:12:00 -0400 Subject: puzzle Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2364 From: msjanedoe31 Subject: puzzle Date: 6/19/00 8:12 pm (ET) For anyone who has access to AOL: If you put in Harry Potter as a keyword, there is a printable crossword puzzle to test your knowledge. Have Fun! Melissa From msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 00:17:00 2000 From: msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com (msjanedoe31) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:17:00 -0400 Subject: link Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2365 From: msjanedoe31 Subject: link Date: 6/19/00 8:17 pm (ET) http://familyeducation.com/printables/piece/0,2357,22-10005-333,00.html?aolci This should work. I'm out of here. Melissa From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 00:49:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:49:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2366 From: sarvalsha Subject: Re: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2216] Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Date: 6/19/00 8:49 pm (ET) Yikes! Leave your computer for the weekend and it's overrun with messages. Took me forever to get caught up. Just a short reply about Sirius' motorcycle. I don't believe it was Sirius who said he didn't need it. It was Hagrid who was remembering that night during the discussion about Sirius in the inn. The discussion with Fudge, McGonagall, and Flitwick that our intrepid trio overheard. Hagrid was saying he should have been suspicious about Sirius lending him the bike when Sirius loved it so. Then Hagrid went on to say that Sirius knew he wouldn't need it. Just Hagrid speculating about what happened. Margaret From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 00:58:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:58:00 -0400 Subject: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2367 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2366] Re: Mysteries and Inconsistencies Pt 2 Date: 6/19/00 8:58 pm (ET) no i read that hagrid went on and said that sirus said, you can have it i won't need it any more, thats whast i've read anyway From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 01:38:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:38:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter clubs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2368 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: Harry Potter clubs Reply To: [Yahoo! #2210] Harry Potter clubs Date: 6/19/00 9:38 pm (ET) please, criticise.... i am 16 and stand with you on this. i wouldn't go around sharing my dreams with people - i could get certified... nicholas (btw - i am a kid, so, permission granted) From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 01:54:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 21:54:00 -0400 Subject: Ignored messages...and an observatio Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2369 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: Ignored messages...and an observatio Reply To: [Yahoo! #2288] Ignored messages...and an observation Date: 6/19/00 9:54 pm (ET) i personally think it was almost explained. we know voldemort is wicked, but not mad. actually - we don't know that. nevermind. it just seems like the only 1 true place harry would be totally safe would have been at Hogwarts, and just imagine what that would entail. also - the fact that harry lives with people who 'hate' him, creates the Harry we all, *cough* like. i have a feeling if he had of grown up around witches, by the time he was 10, he would he so high on himself - he'd be in Slytherin. and, the fact that such a sad life turned out to be so much more fun was just wonderfull. i think it was one of the best parts of the book. we can all hope. btw, i'm 16 - and after that posting about roleplaying, typos, and anoying kiddies - i hope this lives up to your standard - does it? please tell me if i (16 years old) - am unwanted... nicholas From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 02:28:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 22:28:00 -0400 Subject: No offence or anything ... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2370 From: david_the_bravest Subject: No offence or anything ... Date: 6/19/00 10:28 pm (ET) ...but one thing i noticed is that this club just post in like 7 hours you guys had like 120 posts added, why dodn't you guys go looking for some more pics and stuff? From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 02:47:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 22:47:00 -0400 Subject: Intro Message; FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2371 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Intro Message; FAQ Date: 6/19/00 10:47 pm (ET) Hi: INTRO MESSAGE: Thanks to Voicelady & Simon for the tips on how I can send out an email to all members. Now, my next question is . . . I assume it has to be sent to all members and, therefore, in order to be sure the message is getting to the new members, I would need to send it out periodically? Does anyone have any suggestions around this problem? Does anyone care if I send out this message to you all on a periodic basis? Thoughts?? 2. FAQ -- I think this is a great idea (Simon gets the credit again). I'm willing to work on it with Melanie -- thanks Melanie for agreeing to host it on your website. Hopefully one of you is technically proficient enough to help me figure out how to post the link to Melanie's website. Melanie: let me know if you've started a FAQ already or if you want me to start it first. Penny From estesrandy at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 02:53:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 22:53:00 -0400 Subject: New People and Discussions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2372 From: estesrandy Subject: New People and Discussions Date: 6/19/00 10:53 pm (ET) Regarding all of these postings from new people to the club, I think the topics have been much more interesting since the new blood arrived. As long as everyone checks their posts for typos before sending them to the board, people can more easily read them. But the topics have been quite entertaining. I personally don't care about the lawsuit. I think we have given it alot more discussion than it ever deserved. I really like these discussions which center around the events in the books. Since Book 4 has Quidditch matches in the storyline, do you suppose that Ron's obsession with the game will be examined? He has all the Quidditch stuff in his room, and his greatest desire in the mirror of Erised was to be the Quidditch Team Captain. Regarding Ron Weasley and possible death sentence for the character. I don't think he is the one to die in the books. I wonder about poor Neville. He has victim written all over him ! From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 02:54:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 22:54:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as Scrooge Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2373 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Harry as Scrooge Date: 6/19/00 10:54 pm (ET) Hi: <This is the ever-popular "Harry as Scrooge" question. My answer is that, as you say, it is how JKR writes. She might have written at some point, to paraphrase Louisa May Alcott: "Everyone got Christmas presents, but we will only discuss Harry's, because it is with he that we have the most to do, the other characters being of only secondary importance." (I must admit, however, that I'm glad JKR never wrote such a passage -- I don't consider Ron, Hermione, Hagrid, etc. to be of only "secondary importance".)> Well, I'm guilty of raising this issue more than once I'm sure. It just bothers me that there is never any mention of him getting presents for others (especially since there is such emphasis on him *receiving* gifts). I can see how it might be cumbersome or cluttering to have mention of Ron & Hermione's birthdays. But, since Hermione's birthday was mentioned in PoA, how hard would it be to include 1-2 sentences indicating that Harry & Ron snuck off from Hermione and picked up her gifts in Diagon Alley?? How hard would it be to have a brief mention in one of the Christmas scenes that Ron was opening the box of chocolate frogs from Harry -- there's mention of the presents Ron is getting from others. In CoS when Hermione comes in on Xmas morning -- how much trouble would it have been to have Harry reach under his bed and toss presents to Ron & Hermione? No description of *what* he gave them would even be necessary. Don't know *why* this topic bothers me so much. Off my soapbox now -- Penny From Danemead at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 03:03:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:03:00 -0400 Subject: A Curse on Yahoo! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2374 From: Danemead Subject: A Curse on Yahoo! Date: 6/19/00 11:03 pm (ET) RATS! When is Yahoo gonna get their act together? Can't read messages online, mail delayed for hours. Typical Muggle outfit! From estesrandy at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 03:05:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:05:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as Scrooge Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2375 From: estesrandy Subject: Re: Harry as Scrooge Reply To: [Yahoo! #2373] Harry as Scrooge Date: 6/19/00 11:05 pm (ET) Let's face it, we don't like it when Harry does not act appropriately at all times! We see Harry as either ourselves, a son, a brother, or a best friend. We would want each of these people to be more generous. So come off it "Arry", give a little something to your friends once in a while. Or maybe Hagrid will have you cleaning the hippogriff stalls for a month! From lilly_potter at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 03:13:00 2000 From: lilly_potter at yahoo.com (lilly_potter) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:13:00 -0400 Subject: Tuition to Hogwarts Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2376 From: lilly_potter Subject: Tuition to Hogwarts Reply To: [Yahoo! #2309] Another pointless question.... :) Date: 6/19/00 11:13 pm (ET) I think maby tuition is paid for by taxes. But lets not get into that. Keep in mind when things like dates dont match up THIS IS NOT OUR WORLD lol. Christina From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 03:13:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:13:00 -0400 Subject: Tuition at Hogwarts Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2377 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Tuition at Hogwarts Date: 6/19/00 11:13 pm (ET) Hi: Someone was questioning whether there would be tuition at Hogwarts. I think there must be. In PoA, Harry talks himself out of even considering buying the Firebolt on the grounds that he has 5 years of school left. And, Hagrid tells him in SS that he's taken enough money for a couple of terms. I think both these instances imply that there are tuition charges. Surely they must pay room & board at the very least, eh? Yes, I'm sure the Weasley budget is quite stretched. Maybe they get a discount. Or maybe Percy at least has a scholarship. I guess the twins could have an athletic scholarship. <g> Penny From brp13 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 03:16:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:16:00 -0400 Subject: Tuition at Hogwarts Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2378 From: brp13 Subject: Re: Tuition at Hogwarts Reply To: [Yahoo! #2377] Tuition at Hogwarts Date: 6/19/00 11:16 pm (ET) It's not Tuition that's so expensive... It's the books that are expensive. I really doubt there is any kind of tuition to hogwarts, altho it's an interesting point. But for the most part it's the books that are the expensive part... Must be some kind of wizard tax that pays for the school. From brp13 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 03:20:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:20:00 -0400 Subject: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2379 From: brp13 Subject: Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Reply To: [Yahoo! #2341] Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Date: 6/19/00 11:20 pm (ET) I would think the term "Grown Ups" for Harry potter would be late teens and adults. Harry potter's biggest fans are the kids around harries own age, so basically anyone from 10-14. But those older than that can at least have some sort of maturity... Anyways, the main thing I was going to say was to recommend the spoiler notice cuttoff day be August 1st. That should give everyone time to get the book and read it, or at least most people. From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 03:23:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:23:00 -0400 Subject: Request for feedback Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2380 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: Request for feedback Date: 6/19/00 11:23 pm (ET) I'll never forget the day I finished the third book for the first time...as an adult, I had discovered the joy of this alleged "children's" book, and wanted to see what the internet had to offer. I was shocked and disheartened at the quality of the sites out there...most appeared to have been designed by 12 year olds (point in fact tho...this is not a slam against 12 year old's sites...some of the best HP sites out there are in fact done by 12 year olds, but dont LOOK like they were done by a 12 year old) So, being an adult, I wanted to create a HP site that I would enjoy. I would love any feedback people have for me, and feel free to e-mail me personally if you like to let me know what you think, and how I can make it better. http://www.hagridshut.com I also really look forward to getting involved in this newsgroup...I only discovered it today after being an active participant on alt.fan.harry-potter. Anywho, cheers. Look forward to your comments. - Hagrid From brp13 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 03:26:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:26:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as Scrooge Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2381 From: brp13 Subject: Re: Harry as Scrooge Reply To: [Yahoo! #2373] Harry as Scrooge Date: 6/19/00 11:26 pm (ET) LOL. I actually thought of this same thing not too long ago... Quite a mystery if you ask me. He DOES have a small fortune sitting in a vault, surely he would have some money to buy something... Of course, there is the fact that he can never go to a store to buy anything for Christmas, at least until Year 4, unless he was thinking about Christmas way back in August. Then again, by that same logic where does Hermione get her presents for Harry... From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 03:26:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:26:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as Scrooge Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2382 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: Harry as Scrooge Reply To: [Yahoo! #2375] Re: Harry as Scrooge Date: 6/19/00 11:26 pm (ET) hey llok at it this way think of harrys gifts as occasional gifts like choclate frogs and then another gift he gives to his friends, is one of the best of all... Freindship, plus he drags them into an adventure not worth missing out on, mabey he does ive presents to them but it just doesn't say it, mabey for herminoes b-day as its in the middle of sumemr the dusleys won't let harry go by a preenst it might be the same with ron but we don't know when his b-day is yet... From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 03:30:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:30:00 -0400 Subject: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2383 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Reply To: [Yahoo! #2379] Re: MESSAGE FROM FOUNDER Date: 6/19/00 11:30 pm (ET) no wait tell more into the year for the spoiler notices to be cut off, think of how many copies there are? and all of those copies are on hold for other people, so it will be months before people like oh say me can get the 4 book, it sounds really good and i don't want anyone to spoil it no matter what I SAY so please keep puting up spoiler alerts in the title or in the first sentences so we can read if its a spoiler or not From triner2001 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 03:46:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:46:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as Scrooge Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2384 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Harry as Scrooge Reply To: [Yahoo! #2373] Harry as Scrooge Date: 6/19/00 11:46 pm (ET) In the 1st book, during the trip to Hogwarts, Harry buys a bit of everything off the snack cart and shares with Ron. "Harry, who had never had anything to share before or, indeed, anyone to share it with. It was a nice feeling, sitting there with Ron..." He also treat H & R to ice cream in PoA and I think in general he does share his largess with the others in a quiet, understated way. After all, the books are told from his pov. I don't think he's a Scrooge. Trina From mairomatt at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 03:47:00 2000 From: mairomatt at yahoo.com (mairomatt) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:47:00 -0400 Subject: Cool site i found Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2385 From: mairomatt Subject: Cool site i found Date: 6/19/00 11:47 pm (ET) http://matthew.whitlock.tripod.com/therubberbandball/index.html From houston425 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 03:53:00 2000 From: houston425 at yahoo.com (houston425) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:53:00 -0400 Subject: Hello Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2386 From: houston425 Subject: Hello Date: 6/19/00 11:53 pm (ET) Hello all. I am a new member but I feel like an old one because I just waded through all the posts. (I have this sickness where I have to do things in order... It just drives me crazy to skip things!) I would like to answer the question about how I got into Harry Potter. My mother read the books and then read them to her 5th grade class (10 - 11 year olds) She loves the books and would tell me how much her students enjoyed them. She started getting essays and assignments and stories written by the students involving Harry and his friends. I always have to be reading something, like some other members of this group, so I was in the grocery store one day, saw the paper back version of book 1 and picked it up. The rest is history as they say. As to books that I enjoy reading.. I have many different interests. But one that I have not seen mentioned here is the Myth Adventures by Robert Aspirin. These are definitely not children's books however. I highly recommend the first *four* books starting with Another Fine Myth. There are ten books total. I could possibly stretch my recommendation to six, but not much beyond that. I have really enjoyed reading the posts and look forward to participating in this group. From triner2001 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 03:54:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2000 23:54:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as Scrooge Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2387 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Harry as Scrooge Reply To: [Yahoo! #2381] Re: Harry as Scrooge Date: 6/19/00 11:54 pm (ET) "Where does Hermione get her presents for Harry?" Well, she does subscribe to the "Daily Prophet" and her parents aren't horrified that she's a witch, unlike the Dursleys. Sorry about the double post. I read and posted before I read that one. Overeager, I suppose. Trina From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 04:48:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 00:48:00 -0400 Subject: Defense of Dark Arts and Snape Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2388 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: Defense of Dark Arts and Snape Date: 6/20/00 12:48 am (ET) So, I just reread the series again...and it occurs to me... If the post of Defense of Dark Arts is so hard to fill, and Snape desperately wants it...why don't they give it to him? Theories? Or is this just a plot point to be fleshed out in later books? Hagrid http://www.hagridshut.com From brp13 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 05:08:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 01:08:00 -0400 Subject: New book 700+ pages long... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2389 From: brp13 Subject: New book 700+ pages long... Date: 6/20/00 1:08 am (ET) I just heard a rumor that the new book is supposed to be a killer, over 700 pages long... Anyone able to confirm/deny this? From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 05:11:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 01:11:00 -0400 Subject: Slytherin tendencies/younger members Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2390 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Slytherin tendencies/younger members Reply To: [Yahoo! #2369] Re: Ignored messages...and an observatio Date: 6/20/00 1:11 am (ET) "i have a feeling if he had of grown up around witches, by the time he was 10, he would he so high on himself - he'd be in Slytherin." **Good point - keeping him with the Dursleys is for the purposes of humbling as much as protection. "btw, i'm 16 - and after that posting about roleplaying, typos, and anoying kiddies - i hope this lives up to your standard - does it? please tell me if i (16 years old) - am unwanted..." You are not unwanted at all, Nicholas! The fact that you *want* to be here is the important thing, even if some of us might sound like evil teachers giving you extra homework, sometimes :) I don't think any of us 'oldsters' would want the younger members of this club to feel rejected by what we've said. We're not asking for perfection in the posts, either - we just want them to be in English, and readable! Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 05:18:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 01:18:00 -0400 Subject: younger members Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2391 From: Danemead Subject: Re: younger members Reply To: [Yahoo! #2390] Slytherin tendencies/younger members Date: 6/20/00 1:18 am (ET) "btw, i'm 16 - and after that posting about roleplaying, typos, and anoying kiddies - i hope this lives up to your standard - does it? please tell me if i (16 years old) - am unwanted..." Hey, we want you! More members means livelier discussions. Different viewpoints! This is the most amazing thing about Harry Potter -- that it hooks almost all age groups. It's like a whole new planet has been discovered, and we all take frequent vacations there! From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 05:26:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 01:26:00 -0400 Subject: younger members Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2392 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Re: younger members Reply To: [Yahoo! #2391] Re: younger members Date: 6/20/00 1:26 am (ET) I am not certain if the age of the heart classifies one's age better than the age of the body? In body, I am 31, but at heart, I think I might be stuck at 8. (Smiles) I too am a Myth fan, btw (waves to the gentleman!), loving the tongue in cheek play with words there. I haven't read Harry quite yet--the books are in reserve awaiting funding at Amazon, and I have been outbid several times in Yahoo auction trying to get them. I like the classics, though, as Lewis, Carrol (or is it LL?), Tolkien, White (wonderful writer!) and even a lot of Poe. Don't ask about music--it's as varied as my book collection! Currently I am reading Dickson's Dragon Knight. Hopefully soon, I will be able to negotiate within this new world of interesting terms such as "sorting", "muggles", and "DA". Until then, I am just thankful to be along for the ride! Dee From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 05:28:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 01:28:00 -0400 Subject: Mind your language Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2393 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Mind your language Date: 6/20/00 1:28 am (ET) Re: Poor use of English in posts: I've had similar debates in other groups, where many non-English speakers post messages which are in English but, sometimes, difficult to understand. Some people correct them, without stopping to think that they are responding in what is, to them, a foreign language. In the case of teenagers, I suspect that the internet (chat rooms in particular) has created a new language - let's call it 'Internet Esperanto' - which says goodbye to capital letters and punctuation, and instead relies on firing off thoughts and ideas. This new language is accepted between those who use it, but seems really shoddy to the rest of us. People say that two drunks slurring away to each other hear each other speaking quite normally - is that a useful analogy? I'm not saying this new lingo is a good thing, but I think it explains the style of some posts. 'very old' Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 05:36:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 01:36:00 -0400 Subject: New book 700+ pages long... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2394 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: New book 700+ pages long... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2389] New book 700+ pages long... Date: 6/20/00 1:36 am (ET) Amazon.com lists the US hardcover of 'Book 4' at 752 pages. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 05:38:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 01:38:00 -0400 Subject: Request for feedback Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2395 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Request for feedback Reply To: [Yahoo! #2380] Request for feedback Date: 6/20/00 1:38 am (ET) "I wanted to create a HP site that I would enjoy. I would love any feedback people have for me" I looked at your site the other day. It's very good - a nice twist on HP! Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 06:48:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:48:00 -0400 Subject: Mind your language Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2396 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Mind your language Reply To: [Yahoo! #2393] Mind your language Date: 6/20/00 2:48 am (ET) I think the importamt thing is to read through your message before sending it. This will pick up on most mistakes. If needed have a dictionary positioned near your computer (I have one right next to mine as my spelling is quite terrible at times). Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 06:51:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:51:00 -0400 Subject: Tuition at Hogwarts Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2397 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Tuition at Hogwarts Reply To: [Yahoo! #2377] Tuition at Hogwarts Date: 6/20/00 2:51 am (ET) <And, Hagrid tells him in SS that he's taken enough money for a couple of terms.> Maybe it is Harry that is on a scholarship as his parents are dead. I personally am not sure about what they pay for. Why only take money for two terms as it is likely he will not be able to go to Gringotts until before the start of the next year. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 06:52:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:52:00 -0400 Subject: New People and Discussions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2398 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: New People and Discussions Reply To: [Yahoo! #2372] New People and Discussions Date: 6/20/00 2:52 am (ET) <Regarding Ron Weasley and possible death sentence for the character. I don't think he is the one to die in the books. I wonder about poor Neville. He has victim written all over him !> Exactly why I think Neville will not be the one to die. He has to do something to prove he is actually a good wizard. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 06:57:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 02:57:00 -0400 Subject: Intro Message; FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2399 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Intro Message; FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2371] Intro Message; FAQ Date: 6/20/00 2:57 am (ET) <INTRO MESSAGE: . <snip> I would need to send it out periodically? Does anyone have any suggestions around this problem? Does anyone care if I send out this message to you all on a periodic basis? Thoughts??> I personally would not be concerned if I received the FAQ as a e-mail once every couple of weeks, and I guess that most others would feel the same. <2. FAQ -- I think this is a great idea (Simon gets the credit again). I'm willing to work on it with Melanie -- thanks Melanie for agreeing to host it on your website.> If we also want a mirror of this is in the UK then I will be happy to host it as well. If it is being e-mailed to people then it is important that it be kept fairly short and simple. If anymore help is needed then I can offer help or advice but for the next week I am very busy. Simon (27 and 1/2 hours to go) From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 07:01:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 03:01:00 -0400 Subject: Time Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2400 From: hert0661 Subject: Time Reply To: [Yahoo! #2399] Re: Intro Message; FAQ Date: 6/20/00 3:01 am (ET) "Simon (27 and 1/2 hours to go)" I really must learn to tell the time - it is an hour earlier than I thought it was. The above should read 28 and 1/2 hours to go. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 09:03:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 05:03:00 -0400 Subject: Buying book 4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2401 From: hert0661 Subject: Buying book 4 Date: 6/20/00 5:03 am (ET) The following is from an e-mail from WHSmiths Online concerning the fact that they have recently reduced the price by 10%. A good lesson in how to create more work for your company. <start of quote> "Thanks for your message. As part of the sale we currently have running discounts have increased on some products. The system will not automatically update an order which was placed previously, so you wanted to purchase the book at this new price, you would need to place a new order and cancel your previous order." <end of quote> Simon From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 12:01:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:01:00 -0400 Subject: Internet esperanto Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2402 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Internet esperanto Date: 6/20/00 8:01 am (ET) Hi! sorry if I spelled Esperanto incorrectly - I know what you mean about bad spelling and lack of punctuation. I am always attempting to spell things correctly, and quite frankly, I cringe when I see people spelling things with x's. I.e. thankx, etc. I do try to keep my messages punctuated, so they flow well - but, I really don't see what is wrong with all lower case. you'll forgive me if I don't start writing with them now. Anyway, it's nice to know I am welcome here - especially with most of the other Harry Potter rooms filled with, erm..... I have just got my dad to read The Philosopher's stone - and he says I am like Dudley Dursley! I was really quite offended by this, as I a) am not violent, selfish, greedy, I am kind to others. b) I am always the one to get picked on in school. I would be one of Harry's friends. c) I have a neck - and am not fat. In fact - the only thing we have in common is that I have a lot of stuff in my room. Computer, stereo, TV, etc. I would like to point out that none of them are broken, and I never kicked the Television when my favourite program was cancelled. It is the first book he has read in years. Actually - it is a book on tape, but will someone please tell me I am not a Dursley! I am in Amnesty International for god's sake... Was that enough spelling punctuation, and correct grammar for you all? Nicholas 'Dudleykins' Stoker From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 12:06:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:06:00 -0400 Subject: Internet esperanto Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2403 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Internet esperanto Reply To: [Yahoo! #2402] Internet esperanto Date: 6/20/00 8:06 am (ET) <I really don't see what is wrong with all lower case.> If capital letters are used, in the right places, then it helps to break up the text in the same way that punctuation does. It also helps those who skim read to spot important names etc. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 12:37:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:37:00 -0400 Subject: Internet esperanto Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2404 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Internet esperanto Reply To: [Yahoo! #2402] Internet esperanto Date: 6/20/00 8:37 am (ET) "Was that enough spelling punctuation, and correct grammar for you all?" Ouch! Actually, I don't think you are the worst offender, Nicholas, but you seem to have taken the comments on board, and I'm sure everyone will agree that it's made a vast difference to the way you 'sound'. I would award ten points to Gryffindor, but that might sound patronising - plus, you seem like a Hufflepuff type to me :) Just to put your mind at rest, you don't appear to be like Dudley Dursley either, but we only have your word that you have a neck! Neil From CarverWB at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 12:46:00 2000 From: CarverWB at yahoo.com (CarverWB) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 08:46:00 -0400 Subject: Unintended Implications of insults Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2405 From: CarverWB Subject: Unintended Implications of insults Reply To: [Yahoo! #2402] Internet esperanto Date: 6/20/00 8:46 am (ET) <I have just got my dad to read The Philosopher's stone - and he says I am like Dudley Dursley! I was really quite offended by this> Which would make him Mr. Dursley? Does he make drills? O:) From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 13:45:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:45:00 -0400 Subject: Internet esperanto Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2406 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: Internet esperanto Reply To: [Yahoo! #2404] Re: Internet esperanto Date: 6/20/00 9:45 am (ET) Hufflepuff, eh? I was going to ask about houses, now someone has brought it up. I was wondering the difference between the houses. Somehow I think I might have been a Ravenclaw - could someone do some definitions? It would be interesting to know which house I would be in. Nicholas PS. I am going to keep up this SPG thing - I see what you mean about easier reading. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 13:46:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 09:46:00 -0400 Subject: Pass the smelling salts... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2407 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Pass the smelling salts... Date: 6/20/00 9:46 am (ET) I feel faint! I just took delivery of the CD versions of Books 1-3 from Amazon, and they look great. Now I have time to listen to all of them before Book 4 comes out. I'm looking forward to this. There - some mindless enthusiasm from me, for a change. Neil From Troubadesse at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 14:07:00 2000 From: Troubadesse at yahoo.com (Troubadesse) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:07:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2408 From: Troubadesse Subject: Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2346] Re: FAQ Date: 6/20/00 10:07 am (ET) Thanks for telling me anyway...your German is really good! It was a great surprise to read some words in my own language...:) From professor_jana_lupin at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 15:59:00 2000 From: professor_jana_lupin at yahoo.com (professor_jana_lupin) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 11:59:00 -0400 Subject: Internet esperanto Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2409 From: professor_jana_lupin Subject: Re: Internet esperanto Reply To: [Yahoo! #2406] Re: Internet esperanto Date: 6/20/00 11:59 am (ET) There is really no difference. They just named the places to live after the founders. However, the sorting hat just looks into your mind and sees where YOU want to live. From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 16:16:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:16:00 -0400 Subject: Houses... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2410 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Houses... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2406] Re: Internet esperanto Date: 6/20/00 12:16 pm (ET) First, I wish to commend you on your choice of using capitals and punctuation. It really looks good, and helps us all out here. Second, maybe dad is trying to get your goat by calling you Dudley. If he's not a real tempermental guy, you should point out to him that that would make him Mr. Dursley indeed. :) Third, on houses. Although the sorting hat does put you where you want to be, the houses do seem to attract certain types to them. This isn't exact though, and sometimes the hat seems to find something deep inside a person to put them someplace when another house seems more appropriate on the outside. Gryffindor gets those with a strong and courageous heart quite often, even when they may seem more apt for another house. Hufflepuff gets those who caring and kindness are their primary traits. Ravenclaw seems to get those whom knowledge is quite important, often the bookish types, although obviously in Hermione's case this isn't always where they end up. Slytherin seems to get those who lust for power, and to whom power is more important than most else, or maybe even all else. Just my observations. The sorting hat had something to say about this in the first book as well, but since all of my books are on loan to my friends, I can't look it up for you. :) Have a magical day! Jarnor23 From brp13 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 16:19:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:19:00 -0400 Subject: New People and Discussions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2411 From: brp13 Subject: Re: New People and Discussions Reply To: [Yahoo! #2398] Re: New People and Discussions Date: 6/20/00 12:19 pm (ET) I personally think if anyone dies it will be Hagrid, he's like the only fairly major character who would think could die... Dumbledoor is not likely to die, he's just too dang important. Same with Ron and Hermione. Sirus is a possibility suppose, altho he's not really that major of a character. Anyways, Hagrid would be my guess if someone dies. From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 16:27:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:27:00 -0400 Subject: On all of the banning nonsense... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2412 From: Jarnor23 Subject: On all of the banning nonsense... Date: 6/20/00 12:27 pm (ET) we really shouldn't be surprised in the slightest. Some people have absolutely zilch for imagination, and want to make sure to squelch it for everyone who does. The need to be practical seems to run foremost in many of this type's minds. I myself am a Christian, but I am not a judgemental idiot. In fact, someone truely following the teachings of Christ would not judge people, as we are expressly forbidden to do so. This shouldn't surprise anyone when the fundamentalists flip about Harry Potter though, I mean, look what they've done with other authors. Tolkien, evil apparently. Even C.S. Lewis for Pete's sake! I mean, C.S. Lewis is one of the foremost writers of Christian apologetical literature in this century, and a devout Christian himself, as was Tolkien. Lewis' writings led me to my beliefs that I follow today. I suppose again, we should not be suprised, after all, Lewis was talking about a loving God, and I have a feeling maybe they're following someone else. Almost as obnoxious are the people who look at you oddly if you mention that you are reading a fantasy book, especially a "children's" one. Don't even let me begin about how most people react to my role-playing games hobby! (Dungeons & Dragons, etc...) However, they usually don't get up in arms and try to ban/burn things. Also, it's a lot of fun blowing them a raspberry and skipping around having childish fun while they go about their miserable day. ;) Jarnor23 From triner2001 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 16:28:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:28:00 -0400 Subject: Fan or fanatic question Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2413 From: triner2001 Subject: Fan or fanatic question Date: 6/20/00 12:28 pm (ET) If upon hearing the name Angelina, you think "Johnson, Chaser for Gryffindor" rather than "Jolie, Oscar-award winning actress", then you may a FANATIC! Trina From Danemead at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 16:37:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 12:37:00 -0400 Subject: On all of the banning nonsense... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2414 From: Danemead Subject: Re: On all of the banning nonsense... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2412] On all of the banning nonsense... Date: 6/20/00 12:37 pm (ET) >>>>Also, it's a lot of fun blowing them a raspberry and skipping around having childish fun while they go about their miserable day. ;)<<<<< Too true! Who was it said "You only start getting old when you forget how to play." Wheeeee! From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:00:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:00:00 -0400 Subject: Top 10 signs you are a HP fanatic Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2415 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: Top 10 signs you are a HP fanatic Date: 6/20/00 1:00 pm (ET) Top 10 Signs You may be a Harry Potter Fanatic 10. You demand at your local bank to exchange your 10 dollar bill into sickles. 9. Unable to find an owl, you try to send your friend a note by tying it to the leg of a pigeon. 8. You ask the Hardware store clerk to take a broom for a test drive. 7. At parties you confuse your friends by raising a toast to "the boy who lived!" 6. You've set up your lights at home to turn on when you say, "Lumos!" 5. You go to pet shops and try talking to snakes. 4. You begin eying jelly beans suspiciously. 3. When people get rude with you, you yell, "5 points from Gryffindor!" 2. You try looking up Dumbledore in the phone book. 1. You celebrate July 31st as "Harry Potter Day" From estesrandy at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:00:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:00:00 -0400 Subject: Fan or fanatic question Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2416 From: estesrandy Subject: Re: Fan or fanatic question Reply To: [Yahoo! #2413] Fan or fanatic question Date: 6/20/00 1:00 pm (ET) We could start a series of one liners here. You know you're an HP Fanatic if... 1. You get more email from other Harry Potter readers in one day than you get from everyone else you know in a six month period. 2. You think most of your immediate problems will go away after July 8. ( At least for a while) 3. You've ordered items that represent the Hogwart's House that you were sorted into. 4. You've installed a resting post for owls next to your mailbox. 5. You've begun documenting strategies for playing Quidditch. 6. You've started searching your garden for gnome tracks. 7. You start to wonder if your kids will be Muggles or Wizards? 8. You've started keeping an eye on the neighbor's cat for any unusual activities. 9. You've started looking for a device that will let you go back in time to get more done before that office deadline arrives. 10. You've become suspicious of hardbound books that have all blank pages inside. From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:03:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:03:00 -0400 Subject: Fan or fanatic question Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2417 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: Re: Fan or fanatic question Reply To: [Yahoo! #2416] Re: Fan or fanatic question Date: 6/20/00 1:03 pm (ET) or, you could post top 10 lists (see my post right before this one) Hagrid www.hagridshut.com or, the 11th sign: You begin calling yourself "Hagrid" From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:13:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:13:00 -0400 Subject: Fan or fanatic question Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2418 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Fan or fanatic question Reply To: [Yahoo! #2416] Re: Fan or fanatic question Date: 6/20/00 1:13 pm (ET) Well, I already know I'm a fanatic, but it's just been ascertained. I am guilty of: 1. You get more email from other Harry Potter readers in one day than you get from everyone else you know in a six month period. 2. You think most of your immediate problems will go away after July 8. ( At least for a while) 3. You've ordered items that represent the Hogwart's House that you were sorted into. (This is a recent one. A few hours ago, I went onto the online WB store and ordered my Hogwart's and Gryffindor t-shirts.) 9. You've started looking for a device that will let you go back in time to get more done before that office deadline arrives. 10. You've become suspicious of hardbound books that have all blank pages inside. Voicelady From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:19:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:19:00 -0400 Subject: Houses... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2419 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Houses... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2410] Houses... Date: 6/20/00 1:19 pm (ET) Sorting Hat: Gryffindor - brave at heart, daring, nerve and chivarly. Hufflepuff - just and loyal, patient, true and unafraid of toil. Ravenclaw - wise old, ready mind, wit and learning. Simon Slytherin - cunning, use any means to achieve their ends. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:23:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:23:00 -0400 Subject: Fan or fanatic question Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2420 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Fan or fanatic question Reply To: [Yahoo! #2413] Fan or fanatic question Date: 6/20/00 1:23 pm (ET) "Jolie, Oscar-award winning actress" Who? I've heard the name before but cannot work out which films. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:25:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:25:00 -0400 Subject: Fan or fanatic question Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2421 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Fan or fanatic question Reply To: [Yahoo! #2416] Re: Fan or fanatic question Date: 6/20/00 1:25 pm (ET) "2. You think most of your immediate problems will go away after July 8. ( At least for a while)" No, that happens tomorrow when my exams stop! I seem to be doing very bad on all of these! Simon From pt4ever at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:29:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:29:00 -0400 Subject: casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2422 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2355] casting Date: 6/20/00 1:29 pm (ET) >>> How about Patrick Stewart as Dumbledore? >>> He has my vote! I'm a huge Star Trek fan, and Patrick Stewart has always been one of my favorite actors. I think he'd make a great Dumbledore. He has blue eyes, too. All he needs is a long, silvery fake beard. :) -- JoAnna From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:32:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:32:00 -0400 Subject: casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2423 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2422] Re: casting Date: 6/20/00 1:32 pm (ET) "How about Patrick Stewart as Dumbledore?" Please no! I will sit watching a film with him waiting for the rest of the Star Trek crew to appear. Simon From pt4ever at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:33:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:33:00 -0400 Subject: link Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2424 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: link Reply To: [Yahoo! #2365] link Date: 6/20/00 1:33 pm (ET) Hey! AOL stole my idea! :) Honestly, though, I had no idea there was another Harry Potter crossworld puzzle on the Web 'til Melissa's post. Speaking of mine, has anyone tried it yet? I haven't received any e-mails... Here's the URL again: http://www.geocities.com/pt4ever/hpstart.html -- JoAnna From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:35:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:35:00 -0400 Subject: casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2425 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2422] Re: casting Date: 6/20/00 1:35 pm (ET) >>> How about Patrick Stewart as Dumbledore? >>> I used to like Patrick Stewart until he pulled that conceited stunt during his recent performance on Broadway in "The Ride Down Mount Morgan." As for me, I'd love to see Michael Caine as Dumbledore. Voicelady From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:36:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:36:00 -0400 Subject: casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2426 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2422] Re: casting Date: 6/20/00 1:36 pm (ET) There was mention of Jim Dale as Dumbledore for the film, earlier, so can I now suggest Stephen Fry, who reads the UK audio versions of the books? (as JD does the US versions). He has a crooked nose and he does genial, bearded, twinkly-eyed headmasterful types very well. Okay, he's only about my age, but he can be aged. Neil Is pretending to be the casting director for Warner Brothers a sign of HP fanaticism? From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:36:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:36:00 -0400 Subject: casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2427 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2423] Re: casting Date: 6/20/00 1:36 pm (ET) It souns as if Robbie Coltrane will be Hagrid! The quote below is taken from an article on the BBC news website. "Robbie is in negotations to appear in the film, but that's all we can say at this stage." Simon From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:37:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:37:00 -0400 Subject: Intro Message; FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2428 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Intro Message; FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2371] Intro Message; FAQ Date: 6/20/00 1:37 pm (ET) somebody on the alt.fan.harry-potter usenet group is also working on a FAQ -- you might want to combine your efforts. I will try to find the email address of that person if you want. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:38:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:38:00 -0400 Subject: casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2429 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2425] Re: casting Date: 6/20/00 1:38 pm (ET) <As for me, I'd love to see Michael Caine as Dumbledore.> I agree! Sir Micheal 'Your only supposed to blow the b****y doors off' Caine would be a good idea for Dumbledore. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:40:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:40:00 -0400 Subject: Intro Message; FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2430 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Intro Message; FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2428] Re: Intro Message; FAQ Date: 6/20/00 1:40 pm (ET) "somebody on the alt.fan.harry-potter usenet group is also working on a FAQ -- you might want to combine your efforts. I will try to find the email address of that person if you want. " Sesra: sesra at my-deja.com Maybe with a little help from me! But I probably will just be hosting a finished version of it. Simon From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:42:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:42:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as Scrooge Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2431 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Harry as Scrooge Reply To: [Yahoo! #2381] Re: Harry as Scrooge Date: 6/20/00 1:42 pm (ET) >where does Hermione get her presents for Harry... Doesnt Hermione say she mail orders (or owl orders maybe) Harrys broomstick kit from an ad in the the Daily Prophet? From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:42:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:42:00 -0400 Subject: casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2432 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2429] Re: casting Date: 6/20/00 1:42 pm (ET) "<As for me, I'd love to see Michael Caine as Dumbledore.>" Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! Please not him. Neil PS - I still think Robbie Coltrane is more Vernon than Hagrid, but he'd be good at either. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:45:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:45:00 -0400 Subject: Harry as Scrooge Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2433 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry as Scrooge Reply To: [Yahoo! #2431] Re: Harry as Scrooge Date: 6/20/00 1:45 pm (ET) "where does Hermione get her presents for Harry... " She says that she bought it by owl-order, advertisement in the Daily Prophet. Simon From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:48:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:48:00 -0400 Subject: On all of the banning nonsense... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2434 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: On all of the banning nonsense... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2414] Re: On all of the banning nonsense... Date: 6/20/00 1:48 pm (ET) Too true! Who was it said "You only start getting old when you forget how to play." Was it Robyn? (Carlsson) Nicholas From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:49:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:49:00 -0400 Subject: Fan or fanatic question Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2435 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Re: Fan or fanatic question Reply To: [Yahoo! #2416] Re: Fan or fanatic question Date: 6/20/00 1:49 pm (ET) You know you're fanatic when... ... you call your cable or satellite company to ask what channel the Quidditch games are on? From trackgirl16 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:52:00 2000 From: trackgirl16 at yahoo.com (trackgirl16) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:52:00 -0400 Subject: hey! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2436 From: trackgirl16 Subject: hey! Date: 6/20/00 1:52 pm (ET) Though I've been lurking around here for a few weeks, I just today got around to joining. I must say that I've thouroughly enjoyed the debates, and even though I'm not the most educated HP fan (I've only read the books twice!) I'll contribute what I can. Oh, and I am one of those troublesome minors (17) but I assure you that I am more than capable of holding my own in a literary discussion! Later... Kris From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:54:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:54:00 -0400 Subject: Internet esperanto Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2437 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Internet esperanto Reply To: [Yahoo! #2402] Internet esperanto Date: 6/20/00 1:54 pm (ET) Nicholas -- You seem to be very intelligent and articulate, especially for a 16 year old, and I, personally, am glad to have your perspective on this group. You do not sound much like Dudley Dursley to me. I think that your father is probably saying that because, from his perspective, you have so many more possessions than he had when he was your age. Parents never seem to think that their children are as grateful as they should be for their computers, stereos, tvs, etc. My guess is that he is just blowing off steam and trying to be funny. Just thank him every now and then, buy him a Fathers Day present, and humor him. Thats all we old farts are really asking for. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 17:54:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 13:54:00 -0400 Subject: Maggie Smith Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2438 From: pt4ever Subject: Maggie Smith Date: 6/20/00 1:54 pm (ET) I posted a picture of Maggie Smith in the default album -- it's a cute picture from a production of "The Importance of Being Earnest." I didn't realize 'til today that Maggie Smith also played the Mother Superior in both "Sister Act" movies (both of which I enjoyed). I think she'd make a great McGonagall, although the book McGonagall does seem younger. *shrug* -- JoAnna From CarverWB at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 18:03:00 2000 From: CarverWB at yahoo.com (CarverWB) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:03:00 -0400 Subject: casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2439 From: CarverWB Subject: Re: casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2426] Re: casting Date: 6/20/00 2:03 pm (ET) <There was mention of Jim Dale as Dumbledore for the film, earlier, so can I now suggest Stephen Fry, who reads the UK audio versions of the books? (as JD does the US versions).> I didn't realize that there were 2 different audio editions. Does Stephen Fry do a good job? I got so spoiled by Jim Dale reading HP books, I have a hard time listening to other readers now. I really believe both Jim Dale and Stephen Fry should have good parts in the movie. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 18:07:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:07:00 -0400 Subject: casting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2440 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: casting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2439] Re: casting Date: 6/20/00 2:07 pm (ET) <<I really believe both Jim Dale and Stephen Fry should have good parts in the movie.>> Knowing the entertainment industry as I do, I wouldn't be at all surprised if there has already been a deal made for both of them. Kind of a "you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours" mentality is extremely prevalent in Hollywood. (not that I've ever worked there...darn...) From triner2001 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 18:08:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:08:00 -0400 Subject: Fan or fanatic question Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2441 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Fan or fanatic question Reply To: [Yahoo! #2420] Re: Fan or fanatic question Date: 6/20/00 2:08 pm (ET) Simon, She was in "Girl, Interrupted","The Bone Collectors", & is currently in "Gone in 60 Seconds" Trina From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 18:11:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:11:00 -0400 Subject: casting Jim Dale? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2442 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Re: casting Jim Dale? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2439] Re: casting Date: 6/20/00 2:11 pm (ET) Jim Dale, as in the antagonistic actor who plays in both "Pete's Dragon" as Doc Terminus and "The Unidentified Flying Oddball" as Mordred? I keep picturing him as he was in the 70's, so maybe my viewpoint is skewered--does anyone have a current picture? Then again, I recall when Hawkeye didn't have grey hair under his surgeon's cap! Dee From pt4ever at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 18:13:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:13:00 -0400 Subject: Netiquette Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2443 From: pt4ever Subject: Netiquette Date: 6/20/00 2:13 pm (ET) I did some searching, and this is the clearest, most concise guide to "netiquette" -- i.e., "Internet etiquette" -- that I could find. IMHO, it explains "do's" and "don't's" for both e-mail and groups like this very well. If you're not familiar with netiquette, this is a good place to go. Hope it helps! :) http://www.primenet.com/~vez/neti.html -- JoAnna From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 18:22:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:22:00 -0400 Subject: Crossword Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2444 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Crossword Reply To: [Yahoo! #2424] Re: link Date: 6/20/00 2:22 pm (ET) "Speaking of mine, has anyone tried it yet? I haven't received any e-mails..." I have done most of it but have had to refer to the book for one of the answers (3 across). Simon (17 hours to go!) From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 18:37:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:37:00 -0400 Subject: JoAnna's puzzle Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2445 From: ravenclawlady Subject: JoAnna's puzzle Reply To: [Yahoo! #2424] Re: link Date: 6/20/00 2:37 pm (ET) I tried printing it, but the printer cut off about three inches on the right. I couldn't figure out how to get it to print the whole thing (even if it spreads to 2 pages). It looked like fun, too! Oh well... From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 18:44:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:44:00 -0400 Subject: age Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2446 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: age Reply To: [Yahoo! #2390] Slytherin tendencies/younger members Date: 6/20/00 2:44 pm (ET) ok, just a fairly random quick poll here cos i thought that i was probably one of the youngest peoploe here being 16 and all.......who else is 16 or under? From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 18:57:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 14:57:00 -0400 Subject: age Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2447 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: age Reply To: [Yahoo! #2446] age Date: 6/20/00 2:57 pm (ET) <<who else is 16 or under?>> At heart, I'm about 12. <G> voicelady (who, in actuality, is probably one of the oldest members...) From roxanneyoung at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 19:06:00 2000 From: roxanneyoung at yahoo.com (roxanneyoung) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:06:00 -0400 Subject: Hello Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2448 From: roxanneyoung Subject: Hello Date: 6/20/00 3:06 pm (ET) Just wanted to say hello. I just joined. From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 19:07:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:07:00 -0400 Subject: Internet esperanto Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2449 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: Internet esperanto Reply To: [Yahoo! #2402] Internet esperanto Date: 6/20/00 3:07 pm (ET) u go nick!!! ok, just to annoy you (and yes, i DO have a paranoia of upper case (is that one word or two?) unless im shouting so sorry to be annoying!!) thanx for the posting From Danemead at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 19:12:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:12:00 -0400 Subject: It's TRUE...Amazon bonus! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2450 From: Danemead Subject: It's TRUE...Amazon bonus! Date: 6/20/00 3:12 pm (ET) For those who have pre-ordered: Greetings from Amazon.com. Great news, Muggles! We have made special arrangements to deliver your copy (or copies) of J.K. Rowling's "Harry Potter (Book 4)" on Saturday, July 8, the date of publication--at no additional charge to you. You may be the first on your block to hold this 700-page book in your hands! (We would have sent your package by owl messenger, but "Book 4" weighs 2.7 pounds.) From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 19:15:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:15:00 -0400 Subject: houses Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2451 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: houses Reply To: [Yahoo! #2406] Re: Internet esperanto Date: 6/20/00 3:15 pm (ET) ok, (sorry bout all s/p/g mistakes in advance!!) hufflepuff- nice but not always really brainy (i sort of think Neville should be in Hufflepuff) I think that it was Hagrid's old house Ravenclaw: really brainy. seen nice enough. we don't know much Slytherin..... draco malfoy...nedd i say more? Griffindor_Haryy Potter, Hermione (Herm-i-on-nee) and Ron. as above, need i say more? From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 19:17:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:17:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2452 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2408] Re: FAQ Date: 6/20/00 3:17 pm (ET) meine Deutsche ist schlecht aber, wenn Sie mogen ich in Deutsche schreiben kann. (my german is bad. but if you want then i can write in German) From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 19:21:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:21:00 -0400 Subject: Top 10 signs you are a HP fanatic Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2453 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: Top 10 signs you are a HP fanatic Reply To: [Yahoo! #2415] Top 10 signs you are a HP fanatic Date: 6/20/00 3:21 pm (ET) lol From CarverWB at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 19:24:00 2000 From: CarverWB at yahoo.com (CarverWB) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:24:00 -0400 Subject: whats with post #40 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2454 From: CarverWB Subject: whats with post #40 Date: 6/20/00 3:24 pm (ET) and why does yahoo direct all messages there?? From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 19:26:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:26:00 -0400 Subject: On all of the banning nonsense... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2455 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: On all of the banning nonsense... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2412] On all of the banning nonsense... Date: 6/20/00 3:26 pm (ET) i am a wiccan but i feel that if the christian God as i understand Christians to believ him to be had not wanted the books writtten then surely he would not have inspired jkr to write then. im sorry if i have got the christian beliefs wrong. please feel free to correct me From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 19:31:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:31:00 -0400 Subject: hey! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2456 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: hey! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2436] hey! Date: 6/20/00 3:31 pm (ET) yeah....so im not the only one aged under 18 (along with Nicholas)oh, be impressed, i used a capital!! anyway, its a really cool club and once again, im sorry for the fact i cant be bother to use capitals or commas, but they annoy me! From christineoswell at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 19:58:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 15:58:00 -0400 Subject: What's with post #40 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2457 From: christineoswell Subject: re: What's with post #40 Date: 6/20/00 3:58 pm (ET) Whenever yahoo has trouble (as it now seems to be..) and you can't access the new messages, it seems to default to the first page of messages. I don't know why it does this, I find it very irritating. But be persistent, eventually you will be able to read the new messages. I'm not sure why I am writing this, since chances are you won't be able to read it yet either! Smiles, Christine From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 20:00:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:00:00 -0400 Subject: It's TRUE...Amazon bonus! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2458 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: It's TRUE...Amazon bonus! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2450] It's TRUE...Amazon bonus! Date: 6/20/00 4:00 pm (ET) Please go to; www.noamazon.com Nicholas From golden_faile at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 20:03:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:03:00 -0400 Subject: Considerations when you Post Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2459 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: Considerations when you Post Reply To: [Yahoo! #2267] Considerations when you Post Date: 6/20/00 4:03 pm (ET) The problem is, most of us have a hard enough time just typing these messages out. I don't think people intend to be inconsiderate as you call it. MOST people are typing for fun and not thinking about grammar.Do you use proper grammar when writing in your journal? I'm sorry about being so blunt, I simply could'nt ignore this message.I did think it was offensive. We are here to share our interests not criticize and pick each other apart. You will probably hate me now but I had to comment. From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 20:08:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:08:00 -0400 Subject: Considerations when you Post Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2460 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: Considerations when you Post Reply To: [Yahoo! #2459] Re: Considerations when you Post Date: 6/20/00 4:08 pm (ET) Ahme, I use good grammar in my </change language [yank]> journal </end [yank]> (Diary). And upper case letters. Nicholas From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 20:12:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:12:00 -0400 Subject: Reading posts... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2461 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Reading posts... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2386] Hello Date: 6/20/00 4:12 pm (ET) "I am a new member but I feel like an old one because I just waded through all the posts. (I have this sickness where I have to do things in order... It just drives me crazy to skip things!)" **Starting at No.1 and working through? I'm impressed. I tried to do that and gave up and that was before we were adding about a 1000 posts a minute! Welcome though (even you message seems ages ago, now). Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 20:23:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:23:00 -0400 Subject: Yahoo bug Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2462 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Yahoo bug Date: 6/20/00 4:23 pm (ET) Christine, I can't actually open your message about Yahoo, but I see enough of it to know what it's about. I complained to them before about the problem with new posts being unavailable to read and I received this helpful reply: - "Howdy! Thank you for your email. As you know, Yahoo! Message Boards sometimes experience delays and posting problems. We want to reassure you that we have been working diligently to rectify this issue as soon as possible. We apologize for any frustration you have experienced using message boards. Thank you for your patience as we work to improve this site for you and other users. Thanks for your interest and patience. Regards, Customer Care" **Actually, I don't have any patience at all. Neil From CarverWB at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 20:26:00 2000 From: CarverWB at yahoo.com (CarverWB) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:26:00 -0400 Subject: Yahoo bug Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2463 From: CarverWB Subject: Re: Yahoo bug Reply To: [Yahoo! #2462] Yahoo bug Date: 6/20/00 4:26 pm (ET) < **Actually, I don't have any patience at all.> Me neither, but thank you for posting what Yahoo said, since I didn't even have patience enough to write them. :) I guess we just overwhelm them. From b_drey at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 20:51:00 2000 From: b_drey at yahoo.com (b_drey) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:51:00 -0400 Subject: New book 700+ pages long... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2464 From: b_drey Subject: Re: New book 700+ pages long... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2389] New book 700+ pages long... Date: 6/20/00 4:51 pm (ET) Amazon emailed me today saying that they were fedexing the book to me so that it would arrive on Saturday, July 8 - at no cost to me!! They also pointed out that the book is over 700 pages long and weighs in at 4 lbs (I think). I also read yesterday in the business news that Amazon would be out of bsn in 8 months - having never turned a profit. I can see why, tho I'm delighted they're rushing the book to me. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 21:16:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:16:00 -0400 Subject: The CD books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2465 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: The CD books Date: 6/20/00 5:16 pm (ET) I mentioned earlier that I'd just received the CD versions of Books 1-3 from the US (a rather expensive impulse buy at $148 the set). When I got home I took the wrappers off and just sat there admiring them, like a lovestruck schoolboy. They are beautifully designed, with fold-out wallets covered in Mary GrandPre's artwork, and housed in a box with the same artwork as the book covers. Book 1 is on 7 CDs (8 hours), Book 2 on 8 CDs (9 hours) and Book 3 on 10 CDs (12 hours). I estimate that the new one will have to be on 15 CDs lasting around 18 hours - perhaps even longer! For, me these are worth the money (and I haven't even listened to them yet - another point for the fanatic in me). Neil PS - can't open any of the new messages at the moment, which is why I'm thrilling you all with these vital statistics. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 21:20:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:20:00 -0400 Subject: The CD books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2466 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: The CD books Reply To: [Yahoo! #2465] The CD books Date: 6/20/00 5:20 pm (ET) ... and to answer an eariler message I did manage to see, I don't know whether Stephen Fry does a good job on the UK audio versions, because I haven't heard them. I decided to go for the US versions, because Nick (one of the members here) said Jim Dale was more animated in his performance than Stephen. Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 21:24:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:24:00 -0400 Subject: Reading yahoo Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2467 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Reading yahoo Reply To: [Yahoo! #2466] Re: The CD books Date: 6/20/00 5:24 pm (ET) If the message board is playing up, find a message that you can read then click on reply, but do this so that it opens it in a new window. Then if you change the number at the end, which is the number of the message, you can read through all of the messages. Hope this makes some sense. Simon (14 hours to go - I am really getting into this countdown idea!) From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 21:25:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:25:00 -0400 Subject: Whoa Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2468 From: david_the_bravest Subject: Whoa Date: 6/20/00 5:25 pm (ET) people slow down with the post, again i get back and theres about 80 new post to read, i'm not going to read them i'm just going to read from this msg... From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 21:32:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:32:00 -0400 Subject: Membership boost Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2469 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Membership boost Date: 6/20/00 5:32 pm (ET) ***************boredom alert - more stats! I notice that we now have 250 members, 100 of whom have joined within the last five days! That makes this the second largest HP club on Yahoo. So, welcome to everyone - whether you're 13 or 99. Also, on that 'getting-a-bit-sensitive-now' age topic, I'm pleased to find that there are about 18 HP4GU members older than me, plus a couple who say they're older, but aren't, and one who masquerades as a 15-year-old, but is actually 50. Still not too many UK members, which is a shame. We're planning to meet at King's Cross Station in London on 8th July, for the launch of Book 4, for anyone who missed that in earlier posts. Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 21:35:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 17:35:00 -0400 Subject: Whoa Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2470 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Whoa Reply To: [Yahoo! #2468] Whoa Date: 6/20/00 5:35 pm (ET) "people slow down with the post" No. I will post replies to any message I feel like replying too. "again i get back and theres about 80 new post to read" Likewise. I just spend a few minutes sifting through for the topics I want to read and ignore the rest! "i'm not going to read them i'm just going to read from this msg..." I have no idea what you mean by this! Simon From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 22:41:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:41:00 -0400 Subject: Posting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2471 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Posting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2459] Re: Considerations when you Post Date: 6/20/00 6:41 pm (ET) Hi: Well, at the risk of alienating anyone else any further, I do feel compelled to respond a bit further on this subject. I have put <g> and other indications of friendly emotion into this message in the hopes that I won't receive any more messages telling me I'm rude. <vbg> I should also say that this is all *my opinion.* <You will probably hate me now but I had to comment.> No I don't hate you at all! You're perfectly free to express your opinions after all. I would hope you'd extend me the same courtesy though. <g> And, I do have some rather strong opinions on this subject. I also recognize that my opinions are strong & *not* necessarily shared by others. <The problem is, most of us have a hard enough time just typing these messages out. I don't think people intend to be inconsiderate as you call it. MOST people are typing for fun and not thinking about grammar.> The basic point I'm trying to get across is this: if you post a message that is all run together in lower case and full of typos and spelling errors, then I have a hard time reading it AND understanding it. Maybe I'm the only one, but I doubt it. A bulletin board such as this relies on written communication. Yes, it is for fun!! I agree wholeheartedly! There can be little doubt of its purpose --but it's just no fun to *me* to try and wade through something that's all run together and full of typos. It's just my opinion that if I can't read or understand what you're trying to say, then you've essentially wasted your time, because I won't be engaging in back & forth dialogue with you (even though the substance of what you had to say might have been quite interesting had I been able to understand your point). Well, you've wasted your time if you consider back & forth dialogue with me to be worthwhile that is. <vbg> I always proof my own posts, and I find typos and grammar problems (or just plain things I didn't mean to say) in 9 out of 10 times. :--) By fixing my posts though -- I make it easier on people who are trying to read them and I communicate my point more effectively. You are free to ignore my suggestions for communicating more effectively with this group. Just as I am free to ignore your posts if I am consistently unable to read what you have to say. :--) I am bombarded with far too heavy a load of email to try & wade through incomprehensible messages (and I do have a life outside the internet as well). Hoping I haven't stirred up a hornet's nest again - Penny From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 22:55:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 18:55:00 -0400 Subject: Okay, here's a problem: Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2472 From: jenP_97 Subject: Okay, here's a problem: Date: 6/20/00 6:55 pm (ET) I pre-ordered HP4 oh - in January, I think (Christmas gift certificate from my very strange brother-in-law -- at least THIS time he didn't get me some weird nerdy gift (not that a gift certificate to a BOOK STORE isn't nerdy, but I mean, if I can call his usual gifts nerdy, but like the amazon.com gift, just think how bad his normal gifts are!)), and then my account got all messed up. Well, NOW I hear that they're upgrading to FedEX shipping for free, and that most other people have gotten letters from amazon.com saying they're upgrading their shipping. Not me! Oh, I've got plenty of letters from the company, just none that have GOOD news in them! :( Now what do I do? Call them AGAIN and beg in a little whiny voice "Please upgrade my shipping! Please Please Please???" Huh. Anyway, I'm sorry about this post. I had to sub for my husband today (same students as I have every MWF, but now I had them on Tuesday, too) and although I hate to say it, I'm starting to dread work. These people really know how to push my buttons, and I'm having a minor meltdown here. That and I just took a nap this afternoon and woke up on the wrong side of the bed - so now I'm a "Miss Crankypants" (a title I've taken to giving my daughter every once in a while) and I have a 50 minute lap swim class to go to at 5, and I'm so tired I'll probably drown. Foul-mooded Jen From msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 23:04:00 2000 From: msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com (msjanedoe31) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:04:00 -0400 Subject: a couple of things Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2473 From: msjanedoe31 Subject: a couple of things Date: 6/20/00 7:04 pm (ET) First, I visited www.hagridshut.com and it is great; a lot to see. Thanks for the suggestion. Second, I am enjoying the posts, but am confused about the meaning behind the astericks and abbreviations being used. Will someone clarify what they mean? Some examples are *me*, >, <. Thanks to anyone who takes time to post a response to this question. Third, I did print the other crossword puzzle, not the AOL one I mentioned earlier. I wanted to comment on the nice job. Neil, Please let us know how the CDs are playing. I am without a doubt that you are enjoying them, who wouldn't? The top 10 signs that Hagrid_Rubues posted are a delight to read. And oh so true! Have a magical evening, Melissa From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 20 23:12:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 19:12:00 -0400 Subject: Absolute Power... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2474 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Absolute Power... Date: 6/20/00 7:12 pm (ET) Well, they say absolte power corrupts a bit, and i have just joined a new Harry Potter group, and (as the second memeber) - quickly been made a founder. I really was surprised by this, but i am going to have a good go at it. It's called Potter's Hangout [I THINK]. I have just been told by the group leader/creator - that she might address me as Professor Dumbledore - and I really don't know what I think about it all. She is already calling herself McGonagall, which i fine by me. I don't think, however - this groups is going to turn out to be a role playing thing - which I don't think I'd be good at (or enjoy), so maybe a few of you could join, steer it on an intelligent path. Bow down before me, that kind of thing. (j/k). If this co-founder insists on giving me a HP name, can someone tell me who is head of Ravenclaw? I had something worthwhile to say, but I seem to have forgotten it. Oh, the character that dies - let's hope it's Crabbe. It might change Malfoy a bit, or at least take some of his ullying power away. I thik that's about it for now, so I may hear from you soon. Nicholas From houston425 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 00:14:00 2000 From: houston425 at yahoo.com (houston425) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:14:00 -0400 Subject: Reading posts... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2475 From: houston425 Subject: Re: Reading posts... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2461] Reading posts... Date: 6/20/00 8:14 pm (ET) >>Starting at No.1 and working through? I'm impressed. I tried to do that and gave up and that was before we were adding about a 1000 posts a minute!<< Thank you for the welcome Neil. I almost gave up a couple of times but... I just never could. It's a sickness I tell you!! From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 00:20:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 20:20:00 -0400 Subject: Harry and Gifts Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2476 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Harry and Gifts Date: 6/20/00 8:20 pm (ET) I rember a while back someone saying Harry never gave anyone gifts. I am reading the books now, as I had only previously heard them on tape. The Chamber of Secrets, At Flourish and Blotts, just before they meet Draco. Harry is presented with all of the Lockhart series, and gives them to Ginny, before buying his own. There, he does give presents out. Nicholas From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 01:15:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:15:00 -0400 Subject: You know you're a Harry Potter fan when. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2477 From: Danemead Subject: You know you're a Harry Potter fan when. Date: 6/20/00 9:15 pm (ET) You know you are a Harry Potter fan when..... You call your local nursery to see if they have any Whomping Willows in stock. You start comparing broomstick brands at the local hardware store. You start picking up broken twigs from the trees, hoping that one of them will be YOUR magic wand. You start thinking werewolves are pretty cute, after all. You find yourself muttering "Expelliarmus!" at the guy with the pointer in staff meetings, just to see if you can make him drop it. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 01:42:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:42:00 -0400 Subject: Posting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2478 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Posting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2471] Posting Date: 6/20/00 9:42 pm (ET) I find myself in Cyberia... the most pathetic excuse for an Internet connection I've ever seen. I had thought that 1200 baud had disappeared somewhere near the dawn of time but that's the approximate speed I get. It takes me the better part of a minute to call up even one message using the browser. In the past I've set the options to deliver the postings to my email box but now I find I'm getting swamped with postings. There are nearly 100 just today. It is difficult on good days to read them all and more times than I can count I've had to delete messages unread. Folks, if you can't take the time to find the shift key or the period key then you move your message to the head of the delete unread list. I don't mind bad grammar and I certainly don't mind folks practicing their English in the medium. And I'm sure you have something interesting to say. I just have to have some criteria to thin it down and that's the one I use. From brp13 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 01:55:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 21:55:00 -0400 Subject: Membership boost Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2479 From: brp13 Subject: Re: Membership boost Reply To: [Yahoo! #2469] Membership boost Date: 6/20/00 9:55 pm (ET) That tends to happen when you get an ad off the main Yahoo Clubs page... From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 02:29:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:29:00 -0400 Subject: Interesting state of yahoo affairs.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2480 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Interesting state of yahoo affairs.... Date: 6/20/00 10:29 pm (ET) I have noticed the yahoo-thing happens frequently after I hear through channels that yahoo has been hacked once more....this isn't that same hacking that made the news a few monthes ago--this is just the minor annoyance type. Not certain if there's a correlation. Dee From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 02:46:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:46:00 -0400 Subject: Posting by Skimmel_98 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2481 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Re: Posting by Skimmel_98 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2478] Re: Posting Date: 6/20/00 10:46 pm (ET) Skimmel, I hope you don't find this offensive. I am a full-time student, type 80wpm, and yes, I do make mistakes, and a "chatter" in the RP world. There is a tendency there to not use the uppercased letters as speed is important--the opponent tends to kill you if you take that extra stroke to find the shift key. Yes, I know, that in postings one should take extra time to proofread one's work. That's the problem we had in another club. A few people started criticizing people's posting skills, and soon we lost a few good people. One explained about (SP?) dyxclesia, and said that she had a problem putting the letters in the right order sometimes. Until Yahoo came up with a "spell-check" system, she hoped we would understand and roll with it. I will apologize now for any laspes in ' in contractions--I do have a tendency to forget that (again, the chat rooms seem to have forgotten it). As for taking the time out for "WORD" creation/spellchecking? I am taking 11 credit hours this 8 week term--which translates into 22 during the regular year due to the one week=one class acceration of the summer term. I don't always have time to devote to cutting/pasting posts between the two! It's a great idea, but there's so much on my plate, I haven't room for the peach pie! Looks down to notice that, yes, she is standing on a soapbox? Excuses herself, and jumps down--becoming a bit boring! Sorry folks for the length. Just wanted people to understand that all spelling mistakes and punctuation errors aren't due to 1. ignorance, 2. neglect (like who cares attitude), and 3. degradation of the English language....although, the latter is coming about quickly! Night all. Dee From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 02:57:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 22:57:00 -0400 Subject: Posting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2482 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Posting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2471] Posting Date: 6/20/00 10:57 pm (ET) >>The basic point I'm trying to get across is this: if you post a message that is all run together in lower case and full of typos and spelling errors, then I have a hard time reading it AND understanding it. Maybe I'm the only one, but I doubt it. I agree with the above. I think that those people who do not want to take the time to check their spelling and grammar so that their posts are readable, and who are taking offense at others requests to do so, are probably too young -- in either chronological or mental years -- to participate in this club, and would probably be happier elsewhere. Really, kids, if you are offended by the requests to use proper English, wouldnt it make sense to join a club where they dont care about such things? From christineoswell at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 03:47:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 23:47:00 -0400 Subject: Posting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2483 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: Posting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2482] Re: Posting Date: 6/20/00 11:47 pm (ET) >>>The basic point I'm trying to get across is this: if you post a message that is all run together in lower case and full of typos and spelling errors, then I have a hard time reading it AND understanding it. Maybe I'm the only one, but I doubt it. > I agree with the above. I think that those people who do not want to take the time to check their spelling and grammar so that their posts are readable, and who are taking offense at others requests to do so, are probably too young -- in either chronological or mental years -- to participate in this club, and would probably be happier elsewhere. Really, kids, if you are offended by the requests to use proper English, wouldnt it make sense to join a club where they dont care about such things? I have to agree with this as well. Taking the time to look over what you have written is a common courtesy, like excusing yourself when you bump into someone. The odd spelling mistake I have no problem with either, but when it is consistent it starts to annoy me. What really bugs me is the (lack of) capitals and punctuation. It takes me right back to my gr. 9 english class, when my teacher would give us paragraphs similar to that to add the proper punctuation and capitals. Christine From yankpeach at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 04:19:00 2000 From: yankpeach at yahoo.com (yankpeach) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:19:00 -0400 Subject: Bringing my son to Harry Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2484 From: yankpeach Subject: Bringing my son to Harry Potter Date: 6/21/00 12:19 am (ET) Hi My name is Donna and I have just joined the club. I read the first book a couple of months ago and I had to go and get the rest. This summer I decided during summer break my youngest who is 13 had to read books. The second week home he tried to read one book and he just didn't get into it and I was fighting with him non-stop. I told him to read Harry Potter and he refused so he tried another book and that didn't go over any better. I told him to read Harry Potter or no games at all this summer. He started the book last week and he had a hard time with the first chapter but I kept telling him it was going to get better. By the third day of reading I noticed he was laughing and not putting the book down. He looks forward to reading and talking to me about the book now. I told him I would go out and buy the remaining books when he is done with this one. He is now looking forward to summer reading thanks to the Harry Potter books. Sorry but I just had to share that. My son is a good boy and is smart but he doesn't think so his older brother everything comes easy too and I'm trying to help him anyway I can. But I must say I'm looking foward to all future books myself. Thank you Donna 44 single mother of two teenagers. From p_dumbledore at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 04:50:00 2000 From: p_dumbledore at yahoo.com (p_dumbledore) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 00:50:00 -0400 Subject: The CD books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2485 From: p_dumbledore Subject: Re: The CD books Reply To: [Yahoo! #2466] Re: The CD books Date: 6/21/00 12:50 am (ET) Neil, if you haven't aready started, I know you will enjoy the Jim Dale read. By the second book he has all the voices down and makes listening to the tapes/CD a pleasure. Have the tapes on order with delivery on the 8th. Said it was 12 Tapes, and 19 hours long. Sorry, missed the last CHAT day.. out of town. Prof. Dumbledore From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 05:22:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:22:00 -0400 Subject: Professor Polyglot speaks... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2486 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Professor Polyglot speaks... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2481] Re: Posting by Skimmel_98 Date: 6/21/00 1:22 am (ET) Roleplay: "There is a tendency there to not use the uppercased letters as speed is important--the opponent tends to kill you if you take that extra stroke to find the shift key" **This is what I was getting at earlier, when I talked about 'Internet Esperanto' - a new language. Perhaps it's a difficult habit to drop for some of you, but you've hopefully noticed by now that this *isn't* a RPG group and we're not waiting to kill you if you don't blast your message onto the page in under 3 seconds! "One explained about (SP?) dyxclesia, and said that she had a problem putting the letters in the right order sometimes" **She was talking about dyslexia. Some people have a genuine difficulty in spelling and sorting out the order of letters. They invariably have difficulty in reading as well. At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I don't think any of us expects every word to be perfect, and if someone has dyslexia, we need to make allowances for that; it's a serious condition. However, in most cases, dyslexia is not the problem, it's laziness. Let's use an analogy here. If you relocated to France, would you continue speaking in English and make no attempt use French? "Sorry mate, I haven't got time to learn French properly, so I'll just speak in English and you can translate it." No, of course not! Eventually you'd realise that you could communicate more effectively if you learned some French and started using it. In short, 'when in Rome, do as the Romans do'. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 05:42:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:42:00 -0400 Subject: The CD books/Also: Chrestomanci Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2487 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: The CD books/Also: Chrestomanci Reply To: [Yahoo! #2485] Re: The CD books Date: 6/21/00 1:42 am (ET) Thanks Prof! Hey, we missed you and Dee last Sunday. If Book 4 is 19 hours long, that's probably 16 CDs - yikes! (Inevitably, I'll have to order Book 4 on CD as well). I'm a bit puzzled though - I thought CDs had a greater capacity than tapes, but it seems to be the other way round. Curious. I haven't started listening yet. I want to choose the moment (and buy some batteries for my CD Walkman). Plus, I'm still reading "Witch Week" by Diana Wynne Jones (DWJ) at the moment and it's a lot of fun. BTW, thanks to whoever it was who recommended trying the other Chrestomanci books, by DWJ. I enjoyed "The Magicians of Caprona" as well. I suspect that the UK reprint of DWJ's books (written in the 70s and 80s) is directly related to the Harry Potter phenomenon. She mixes witchcraft and comedy and uses 'misfit' children as her protagonists. "Witch Week", for example, is based in a boarding school for witch orphans (witchcraft being stamped out by Draconian laws and "Inquisitors"). It's a million miles from HP, but, somehow, in the same vein. Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 06:28:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 02:28:00 -0400 Subject: Professor Polyglot speaks... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2488 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Professor Polyglot speaks... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2486] Professor Polyglot speaks... Date: 6/21/00 2:28 am (ET) >>>>In short, 'when in Rome, do as the Romans do'. Neil <<<< Does this mean we can have a toga party? :P From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 06:29:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 02:29:00 -0400 Subject: The CD books/Also: Chrestomanci Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2489 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: The CD books/Also: Chrestomanci Reply To: [Yahoo! #2487] Re: The CD books/Also: Chrestomanci Date: 6/21/00 2:29 am (ET) "If Book 4 is 19 hours long, that's probably 16 CDs - yikes! (Inevitably, I'll have to order Book 4 on CD as well). I'm a bit puzzled though - I thought CDs had a greater capacity than tapes, but it seems to be the other way round. Curious." A CD, of music quality, is about 74 minutes long. I would assume that the books are put on at this high quality and so require more than using 90minute tapes. Simon From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 06:38:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 02:38:00 -0400 Subject: a couple of things Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2490 From: Danemead Subject: Re: a couple of things Reply To: [Yahoo! #2473] a couple of things Date: 6/21/00 2:38 am (ET) >>>>Second, I am enjoying the posts, but am confused about the meaning behind the astericks and abbreviations being used. Will someone clarify what they mean? Some examples are *me*, >, <. Thanks to anyone who takes time to post a response to this question.<<<<< The asterisks, such as *me* are a way of providing emphasis to a word. The > and < signs are put at the beginning and ending of a quote from a previous message, before you post a reply (like I did above). From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 06:40:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 02:40:00 -0400 Subject: Posting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2491 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Posting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2471] Posting Date: 6/21/00 2:40 am (ET) "that I won't receive any more messages telling me I'm rude." I think, as group founder, you were perfectly within in your right to say what you said. I did not think your messages on this topic were rude. Instead you agve a balnced reasoning as to why you wished people to write their message in a particular style. "I always proof my own posts, and I find typos and grammar problems (or just plain things I didn't mean to say) in 9 out of 10 times. :--) By fixing my posts though -- I make it easier on people who are trying to read them and I communicate my point more effectively." The same here. My spelling is not too good and a almost always find mistakes. Simon (less than 5 hours to go) From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 06:51:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 02:51:00 -0400 Subject: Professor Polyglot speaks... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2492 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Professor Polyglot speaks... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2488] Re: Professor Polyglot speaks... Date: 6/21/00 2:51 am (ET) "Does this mean we can have a toga party? :P " Hmmmm. Perhaps we shouldn't take on all the Romans' habits :) N From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 06:54:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 02:54:00 -0400 Subject: CD capacity Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2493 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: CD capacity Reply To: [Yahoo! #2489] Re: The CD books/Also: Chrestomanci Date: 6/21/00 2:54 am (ET) "A CD, of music quality, is about 74 minutes long. I would assume that the books are put on at this high quality and so require more than using 90minute tapes" Ooops - I knew that, didn't I? Silly me. Simon, are you going to explode at the end of your countdown? Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 06:56:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 02:56:00 -0400 Subject: The Dark is Rising Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2494 From: Danemead Subject: The Dark is Rising Date: 6/21/00 2:56 am (ET) I've just started reading the "Dark is Rising" series by Susan Cooper. This is another set of "children's" literature that adults can really enjoy. It has a King Arthur/Merlin type background, but set in modern times. Merlin is in there, disguised. It also has your standard set of heroes... two boys and one girl. Why do almost all the children's fantasy/quest stories have this 2-to-1 thing? Anyhow, it's a fantastic read. The titles, in order, are: 1. Over Sea, Under Stone 2. The Dark is Rising 3. Greenwitch 4. The Grey King 5. Silver on the Tree From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 07:15:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 03:15:00 -0400 Subject: CD capacity Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2495 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: CD capacity Reply To: [Yahoo! #2493] CD capacity Date: 6/21/00 3:15 am (ET) "Simon, are you going to explode at the end of your countdown?" My exams finish. I celebrate lots and then fall asleep! 4 hours 15 minutes now! Simon From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 12:20:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:20:00 -0400 Subject: Okay, time to lighten things up a bit! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2496 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Okay, time to lighten things up a bit! Date: 6/21/00 8:20 am (ET) Good morning, (it's morning here, anyway) all! This current debate about what constitutes a grownup planted the seed of an idea in my head. So without further ado: YOU KNOW YOU'RE A GROWNUP WHEN: (This is for amusement purposes only and is not intended to put down anyone at all.) You remember when The Fonz was the coolest man alive. You can name all four of Lucille Ball's television shows. On the Dick Van Dyke show, Little Richie's middle name was Rosebud, and you know why. You don't mind when someone says that you look much younger than your age. You refer to your CD collection as albums. You remember what a carbon copy smells like. When you're driving with your parent and throw your arm of steel in front of him/her when you come to a sudden stop. When the radio announcer refers to the songs you listened to when you were a kid as "oldies." A misplaced comma makes you a little nuts. You remember when $30 for a new pair of sneakers was expensive. When you say, "Life was so much simpler when I was a kid." You remember paying $1 for a movie ticket. You typed your papers for school on a typewriter. You remember when Pong was the greatest game in the world. You know who said "Dy-no-mite!" You saw Richard Nixon say "Sock it to me, baby." You remember when phones really rang, had cords and a circular dial, and you only had one. You remember when he was known as "Little" Stevie Wonder. You remember new math. You watched news clips of the Vietnam war on the black and white television in your kitchen during dinner time. You remember when you had to study Cobol in computer class. You remember when Aretha Franklin wasn't fat. When you say to your kids, "You don't know how easy you have it!" From Troubadesse at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 12:43:00 2000 From: Troubadesse at yahoo.com (Troubadesse) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:43:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2497 From: Troubadesse Subject: Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2452] Re: FAQ Date: 6/21/00 8:43 am (ET) Don't worry, your German is quite good! There aren't so many native speakers of English who can speak a foreign language at all (no offence to anyone!)and besides German is extremely hard to learn! Where did you learn your German? From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 12:49:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:49:00 -0400 Subject: Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2498 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2496] Okay, time to lighten things up a bit! Date: 6/21/00 8:49 am (ET) Of course, I can't remember most of the things you listed, because they happened in the US, but the mention of Cobol brought me out in a cold sweat. When I studied Computer Studies at school, there was no such thing as a personal computer and 'terminals' were rare. I had to write my exam program for a line printer (and since it was a board game, it had to be printed out after each move - obviously, it wasn't very successful). The aforementioned line printer was attached to a room-sized computer, like something out of James Bond, located ten miles away at the local technical college. We communicated with it via a 'modem', which, in those days, meant pressing the telephone receiver into a sponge. Later, at college, I progressed to learning Fortran and preparing punched cards on a machine that looked like a torture device. These cards were presented to the surly computer room supervisor, who would feed them into the mammoth computer for processing. A few days later, you could collect the results of your program, only to find that you'd put a hole in the wrong place and declared war on Russia. In order to avoid being completely off-topic, I wonder if they have computers at Hogwarts? Do they ban all modern technology, so that the students can appreciate the joys of the owl post and candlelight? Do they not have electricity? Is it all done by magic? Neil From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 12:52:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:52:00 -0400 Subject: Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2499 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2498] Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Date: 6/21/00 8:52 am (ET) <<Of course, I can't remember most of the things you listed, because they happened in the US>> I'm sorry. That was rather rude of me. I think that, with a club or message board, response time is so immediate, that I always forget that everybody isn't right around the corner from me. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 12:56:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 08:56:00 -0400 Subject: Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2500 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2499] Re: Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Date: 6/21/00 8:56 am (ET) "I'm sorry. That was rather rude of me." Not at all - for a minute there, I could imagine I was too young to remember those things ;) Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 13:02:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:02:00 -0400 Subject: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2501 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Reply To: [Yahoo! #2496] Okay, time to lighten things up a bit! Date: 6/21/00 9:02 am (ET) "You remember new math." I seem to be very good at forgetting this at the moment! I have finished my exams so am off to catch up on some sleep. Simon From msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 13:02:00 2000 From: msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com (msjanedoe31) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:02:00 -0400 Subject: Good morning Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2502 From: msjanedoe31 Subject: Good morning Date: 6/21/00 9:02 am (ET) Hello all! It's morning here and must say that what got me out of bed this morning was not my alarm clock,(that never really works), but I simply had to sign on and see what topics were being discussed. That is a good sign, right? One thing saddens me a little this morning. Should I mention it-O.K. here goes-I can actually relate to 99% of "YOU KNOW YOU'RE A GROWNUP WHEN." Personally,I thought I was going to marry the Fonz and have little Fonzettes. CDs, albums, heck I remember playing my 8 tracks, try explaining that to the youth today. I have some more I must confess, pardon me I'm a little silly this morning. I remember the day MTV premiered and also did anyone else countdown to Michael Jackson's "Thriller" video? O.K., my trip down memory lane is too long. voicelady_2000, Thanks for the posting. Aside from being funny, it has actually brought back some nice childhood memories. My coffee awaits me, Have a magical day!, Melissa From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 13:14:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: A bitchy request from a cranky grownup Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2503 From: rainy_lilac Subject: A bitchy request from a cranky grownup Date: 6/21/00 9:14 am (ET) Please take no offense at this: I cannot possibly read every post that is made to this forum, and it gets rather annoying to often encounter posts that are a.) unreadable due to spelling, grammar, or lack of punctuation, b.) Consist of little more than one line without contributing much to the discourse, or c.) Appear to be miss the spirit of this forum. I am cracking down. If you want me to open and read your post, you had better have an intelligent subject heading that indicates the content of your post. Thank you. I am not trtying to be a pain in the ass, I just want to sort the sheep from the goats. Younger members, please, please do not be offended by this: But I came to this club precisely to GET AWAY from RPG, one line posts, repetition of rumors that are already widely known as if they were new, or purely social posts. I don't want to offend-- I simply will and must make a decision about which posts I will open and which I will dump. Thank you for listening to my rant. --Suzanne rainy_lilac at hotmail.com From triner2001 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 13:27:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:27:00 -0400 Subject: Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2504 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2498] Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Date: 6/21/00 9:27 am (ET) >>I wonder if they have computers at Hogwarts? Do they ban all modern technology, so the students can appreciat the joys of the owl post and candlelight? Do they not have electricity? Is it all done by magic?<< In CoS, when Harry is staying at the Burrows with the Weasleys, Mr W. is constantly asking Harry about Muggle life and says, "Fascinating! Ingenious, really how many ways Muggles have found of getting along without magic." Therefore, all our modern technology comes from not having magic. What a thought, eh? Trina From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 13:28:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:28:00 -0400 Subject: Casting for. . .Hogwarts? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2505 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Casting for. . .Hogwarts? Date: 6/21/00 9:28 am (ET) http://aint-it-cool-news.com/display.cgi?id=6270 From golden_faile at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 13:29:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:29:00 -0400 Subject: Considerations when you Post Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2506 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: Considerations when you Post Reply To: [Yahoo! #2460] Re: Considerations when you Post Date: 6/21/00 9:29 am (ET) My dear you are a rarity(smile)! From golden_faile at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 13:40:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:40:00 -0400 Subject: Posting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2507 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: Posting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2471] Posting Date: 6/21/00 9:40 am (ET) No I don't hate you either! I understand fully what you are trying to say. I see what you mean by a heavy load! There have got to be at least forty more postings since I left this message(WOW)! From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 13:47:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:47:00 -0400 Subject: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2508 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Reply To: [Yahoo! #2496] Okay, time to lighten things up a bit! Date: 6/21/00 9:47 am (ET) Voicelady -- I love your list! I could answer yes to 14 out of 23 so I guess I qualify. I do remember Vietnam War clips but we had a color TV by then so I didn't count that one as a "yes." In the same vein, I got an email recently listing all the things that children born in 1980 can't remember being without (MTV, pacman, AIDS, VCRs, etc.) -- I *really* felt quite old reading that one! Penny From golden_faile at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 13:57:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 09:57:00 -0400 Subject: The Dark is Rising Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2509 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: The Dark is Rising Reply To: [Yahoo! #2494] The Dark is Rising Date: 6/21/00 9:57 am (ET) Excellent selection! Another good series is by LLoyd Alexander. I think the first book in the series is The Black Cauldron. You should check those out(If you haven't already). From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 14:06:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:06:00 -0400 Subject: NY Times Bestseller List Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2510 From: plinsenmayer Subject: NY Times Bestseller List Date: 6/21/00 10:06 am (ET) Hi everyone -- Yesterday I composed a letter to the NY Times re: the possibility of them separating out a children's bestseller list in response to pressure from other publishers. If you haven't heard, other publishers (those who publish works by perennial bestselling authors such as John Grisham, Danielle Steele (groan!), Robert Ludlum, etc.) are pressuring the NY Times to create a separate children's bestseller list so that the HP books won't continue to take up multiple slots on the main fiction list. Most newspapers only print the Top 10 in Fiction & Top 10 in Nonfiction. So, with HP holding potentially 4 of 10 spots, these other publishers are pretty up in arms. Sorcerer's Stone is #11 right now, but could creep back into the Top 10 with Book 4 release. Anyway, I think this is utterly preposterous. If JKR's book sales warrant inclusion on the bestseller list, then they should be there. So, I've composed a letter which I'll post in my next message in case others want to use it in writing their own letter (or copying it!). My only problem is I'm not entirely sure that I've addressed it to the right department. I've addressed it as though it's a "Letter to the Editor" for the NY Times. I'm wondering if the NY Times Book Review is the better recipient, although I didn't find anything on their website that was helpful in that regard. Can any of our NY members help me out with that one? P.S. My letter is exactly double the length that will be accepted for publication in the Letters to the Editor section, so if you *want* your letter considered for publication, be sure it's no more than 150 words. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 14:09:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:09:00 -0400 Subject: Letter to NY Times re: Bestseller List Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2511 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Letter to NY Times re: Bestseller List Date: 6/21/00 10:09 am (ET) Here's the text of my letter (I will post whatever address we all agree is correct later -- once our NY members have weighed in on that one) -- Ladies and Gentlemen: I read in several recent sources that the New York Times Book Review is considering the creation of a separate bestseller list for children's literature. The creation of this separate "children's" list is allegedly motivated by the number of slots on the hardcover fiction bestseller list currently held by J. K. Rowling's "Harry Potter" series. I am writing to urge you to continue to list the Harry Potter books on the main NYT Bestseller List - Hardcover Fiction (or paperback as the case may be). As I'm sure you must be aware, these books do have a wide adult following. But even if large numbers of adults were not reading these books, I still don't believe that creation of a separate bestseller list for children's books would be warranted. If a book generates sufficient sales figures to land a coveted spot on your respected bestseller list, then I do not believe it should be excluded simply because of the age level of the book's intended audience. Assuming that you did create a separate list for children's literature, it would seem difficult to determine on which list to place the Rowling books given the overall sales volume of these books. That is, I'm sure you must realize that children's books do not regularly sell millions of copies, and, therefore, adults must be purchasing copies for themselves. Accordingly, I don't know how you could in good faith make the determination that the Rowling books belong on a "children's bestseller list." It also seems to me that the perceived need for a children's bestseller list might well disappear altogether when the last volume in the Harry Potter series falls off the list. J. K. Rowling's books are a phenomenal success with both children and adults. That success should be rewarded with continued listing of her books on the main NYT Bestseller List. Sincerely, [YOUR SIGNATURE] From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 14:17:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:17:00 -0400 Subject: Chrestomanci, Grownups, and Cobol? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2512 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Chrestomanci, Grownups, and Cobol? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2487] Re: The CD books/Also: Chrestomanci Date: 6/21/00 10:17 am (ET) Neil, I am extremely grateful to you. I have seeking the name and author of that book for over 20 years now, since I left the caring arms of the branch library where I borrowed it. (Of course, I also read gone away lake!) I adored the book for the characters. I always wanted to be a witch, and it just seemed the perfect world. I guess, since most that list fits, I classify as a grownup? I even watched the moon rocket (from a high chair, though!) according to my mom. Cobol ancient? I just spent 3 semesters studying that language, and it's what I plan to be doing with the next few years of my life. Replacing the aged programmers who have had enough of it! LOL! (OH, for those who aren't "chatty-- sometimes <g> or <j/k> indicates actions in postings and chat, sometimes folks use asteriks, and other people like me just type. <j/k> means just kidding, LOL is laughing out loud, and ROTFLMAO means rolling on the floor laughing my ass off. I started in the BBS days, before being introduced to the internet, so we did things differently there too. I am restructuring my mind, trust me. I am very good in English--it's just a mental thing when I sit at a keyboard I lapse into "teenage rping mentality". Going to classes again has helped immensely--teachers tend to want properly written papers when you are getting a grade on them! I will try not to annoy folks, I promise. (And RPing is fun! If you are an imaginative type, I swear, give it a shot!) :) Dee From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 14:26:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:26:00 -0400 Subject: Replies to Misc Posts from Yesterday Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2513 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Replies to Misc Posts from Yesterday Date: 6/21/00 10:26 am (ET) Hi: <"Harry, who had never had anything to share before or, indeed, anyone to share it with. It was a nice feeling, sitting there with Ron..." He also treat H & R to ice cream in PoA and I think in general he does share his largess with the others in a quiet, understated way.> That's a wonderful point Trina -- thanks! Perhaps I have been too focused on him not giving tangible gifts to others, but you're right to remind me that he is portrayed as sharing in more subtle ways. I loved all the "Top 10" lists of signs one might be a Harry Potter fanatic!! I won't confess how many of those might be true of me. Joanna I must confess that I solved your crossword puzzle over the weekend, but I wanted to avoid being stuck with the job of coming up with a new activity! But, if noone else has done it by tomorrow . . . <When I got home I took the wrappers off and just sat there admiring them, like a lovestruck schoolboy.> I love your descriptions like that Neil! I hope you enjoy the CDs. Jim Dale does a great job. Joywitch, Christina, Skimmel, Neil, Suzanne, Simon & others -- Thank you!! Thank you!! Penny From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 14:39:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 10:39:00 -0400 Subject: I am such HAG before deadline! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2514 From: rainy_lilac Subject: I am such HAG before deadline! Date: 6/21/00 10:39 am (ET) Sorry, I really did not mean to insult RPG. I have RPG'd with the best, and yes I agree it is fun.... BUT.... Just as a group of RPGers might feel thrown if someone wandered in acting "mundane", I would like to humbly and in the most nonbitchy way possible suggest that..... uhmmmmm.... THIS forum is not the appropriate place for RPG. Let keep this forum as a place for sharp-edged discussion of HP. There are a million other places where you can role play, but there are precious few places like this! Is that okay?? From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 16:09:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:09:00 -0400 Subject: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2515 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Reply To: [Yahoo! #2496] Okay, time to lighten things up a bit! Date: 6/21/00 12:09 pm (ET) ROFLMAO, Voicelady!! What a great list. This one brought an especially big smile to my face... >>>On the Dick Van Dyke show, Little Richie's middle name was Rosebud, and you know why.<<<< And you know you are an OLD grownup when no-one in your 500-member high school graduate class owned a computer. A new typewriter was the next best thing to a car for a graduation present! From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 16:29:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:29:00 -0400 Subject: Magic vs Technology Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2516 From: Danemead Subject: Magic vs Technology Reply To: [Yahoo! #2504] Re: Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Date: 6/21/00 12:29 pm (ET) >>>>"Fascinating! Ingenious, really how many ways Muggles have found of getting along without magic." Therefore, all our modern technology comes from not having magic. What a thought, eh?<<<< One of my favorite quotes, from Sir Arthur C. Clarke, goes something like this : "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 16:39:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:39:00 -0400 Subject: Magic vs Technology Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2517 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Re: Magic vs Technology Reply To: [Yahoo! #2516] Magic vs Technology Date: 6/21/00 12:39 pm (ET) In the series (and esp the book The Dragon Knight) by Gordon Dickson, there is mention that magic used to be around, and it slowly began to be replaced by technology. The one reason Jim kept being chosen to go against the Dark Powers was his knowledge of the 20th century, and how it didn't limit him like the 14th century magicians he was surrounded by were in their thinking of solutions. It never occurred to him to think "Oh, this guy's a AAA magician, and I am D, so I can't counter his magic." He just went ahead and did it, using philophies from the modern day world--in the case I am referring to when he rescued the English Prince from the French castle, and turned the party into holograms. What 14th century magician would have thought of that? @@ 2 cents. From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 16:47:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:47:00 -0400 Subject: No RPG! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2518 From: GypsyCaine Subject: No RPG! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2514] I am such HAG before deadline! Date: 6/21/00 12:47 pm (ET) I don't intend to RP here, I promise. Sometimes, though, actions that I as a typist, like <g> for grins, though, help to get the idea that I am not aiming for making another person mad--that's its meant in fun. When we are such a cultural diverse club, not being able to see the faces of the people you are talking with limits you to the tone of their writing. I could write the same line 4 different times with the exact same words, in different situations, and have two people laugh, one get mad, and one perhaps even decide I need reported to yahoo for going over board! (Not that I plan to!) This happened in ACC, a rather nasty debate started, and someone thought that a person "had it in for them" I think, because it escalated into a war almost--all over a few words. Please don't get mad at me for the actions like smiles, grins, laughs, pouts, etc. I use them to get my point across without making people take my postings the wrong way--a way contrary to what I intended. I PROMISE NO RPING THOUGH! (And I keep forgetting to spell out tho!) I MAKE THAT A PLEDGE. I hardly use gypsycaine as a roleplaying identity, as "she" is my "me" name. I use it in the real life clubs (for examples, just see profile). The other names are all names, such as lady this, or mistres that, or other such names, and have complete personas of their own. No crossing I guarantee! Ok...Down off the soap box again. From colormevibrant_36f at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 16:59:00 2000 From: colormevibrant_36f at yahoo.com (colormevibrant_36f) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 12:59:00 -0400 Subject: Magic vs Technology Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2519 From: colormevibrant_36f Subject: Re: Magic vs Technology Reply To: [Yahoo! #2516] Magic vs Technology Date: 6/21/00 12:59 pm (ET) "Amen" she says with fervent appreciation for the DVD player, disappearing ink, bic lighter, cellular phone, electricity in general (you mean THAT'S not magic???!!!) and Magic 8 ball! P.S. Hi! New member here - read all three Harry Potter's but, due to my advanced years and declining brain cells, I've forgotten them! *sigh* Guess I'll have to read 'em AGAIN. What torture . . . *wink* From sarvalsha at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 17:13:00 2000 From: sarvalsha at yahoo.com (sarvalsha) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:13:00 -0400 Subject: Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2520 From: sarvalsha Subject: Re: Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2498] Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Date: 6/21/00 1:13 pm (ET) COBOL isn't 'grownup'. That's what I'm still using now. Grownup is remembering collators that were programmed by actually doing the wiring. Grownup is remembering sorters that required two runs to sort one alpha character: one for each punch hole. Grown up is having been there when Morgan Grenfell got their first computer and running the entire bank on 32K of memory. I've only been to London once since then but I'm coming with a group of friends in October. My sister and her roommate have never been and I'm looking forward to showing them 'my' city. Neil, do you think Platform 9 3/4 will still be up then? Our time is short (we only have 3 days in London) but it would be fun to see. Out of the 5 people, 4 are HP fans. Margaret From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 17:47:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:47:00 -0400 Subject: Cobol and King's Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2521 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Cobol and King's Cross Reply To: [Yahoo! #2520] Re: Aaaaargh - Cobol (a bit off-topic) Date: 6/21/00 1:47 pm (ET) Cobol: Am I correct in assuming that Cobol is now known as 'C' or 'C++'? King's Cross Station: Margaret, you asked if the fake Platform 9-3/4 would still be standing in October? Somehow, I doubt it, but it depends what they are planning. I imagine it will just be some cardboard frontages and a sign, which will be carted off the next day. It is, in essence, a publicity stunt for a book launch, much as we'd like it to be a shrine. Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 17:53:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 13:53:00 -0400 Subject: Cobol and King's Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2522 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Cobol and King's Cross Reply To: [Yahoo! #2521] Cobol and King's Cross Date: 6/21/00 1:53 pm (ET) I'd like to remind "new kids" that there is a photo section -- just click on photos on the left side of the screen. One of our magical list-sibs posted several photos of King's Cross Station for those of us who will never get to see the real thing. From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 18:19:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:19:00 -0400 Subject: Cobol and C Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2523 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Re: Cobol and C Reply To: [Yahoo! #2521] Cobol and King's Cross Date: 6/21/00 2:19 pm (ET) Not certain if they have the same tendencies, but I was told by a teacher here at SSC (Ohio), no. Cobol is one language and C another. I am going to assume, as the teacher was of an age to retire this year, that he knew what he was talking of. It's an interesting language, though, cobol. I thoroughly enjoyed learning it (despite all the headaches) for my teacher was a hands on guy. If you had a problem, he said "It's in the book" and waved a hand to make you go back to your seat. In some ways, he reminds me of a wizened one!! Perhaps, now that he's retired, he'd be perfect for a HP teacher role? Shrugging, Dee From brp13 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 18:20:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:20:00 -0400 Subject: Magic vs Technology Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2524 From: brp13 Subject: Re: Magic vs Technology Reply To: [Yahoo! #2516] Magic vs Technology Date: 6/21/00 2:20 pm (ET) In my opinion, modern technology gives greater power at fewer places. Basically technology is getting to a point that you could surpase wizards technology, but you would have to be in a special place to do so. Wizard's have their power everywhere, but Muggles must be in front of a computer or in a place with electricity. Just some food for thought. From paperboy_15_year_old at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 18:24:00 2000 From: paperboy_15_year_old at yahoo.com (paperboy_15_year_old) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:24:00 -0400 Subject: 18 DAYS18 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2525 From: paperboy_15_year_old Subject: RE: 18 DAYS18 Date: 6/21/00 2:24 pm (ET) 18 days till the new book. All almost 800 pages. How can it be read in one weekend? From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 18:34:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:34:00 -0400 Subject: 18 DAYS18 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2526 From: rainy_lilac Subject: RE: 18 DAYS18 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2525] RE: 18 DAYS18 Date: 6/21/00 2:34 pm (ET) >18 days till the new book. All almost 800 pages. How can it be read in one weekend? < *gleeful smile* Oh, I plan to make it a marathon .... I can see myself now waking up with the imprint of the side of the book on my face..... From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 18:35:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:35:00 -0400 Subject: Read in one weekend... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2527 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Read in one weekend... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2525] RE: 18 DAYS18 Date: 6/21/00 2:35 pm (ET) Easy! If it's a great book (which I assume is a given with HP!), then you won't want to put it down! You will read it on the beaches, you will read it in the busstops, you will read it on the tube (and instead of the tube <-- american, lol!), and you will read it while you wait in line in the grocery store while the cashier is in the middle of price check. A traffic jam? NO PROBLEM. Just grab your book! Ok, perhaps I am exaggerating a bit. Seriously, I finished The Dragon Knight (over 400 pages) in 36 hours with two tests in Business Admin (7 chapters)and Statistics (3 chapters) and a three year old running about also happening in that period. I haven't a worry that I can read all four in one week! I have been looking forward to the series for months now. :D Dee From brp13 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 18:40:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:40:00 -0400 Subject: Read in one weekend... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2528 From: brp13 Subject: Re: Read in one weekend... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2527] Read in one weekend... Date: 6/21/00 2:40 pm (ET) LOL. If this book REALLY is 750+ pages, it must be somehow consensed... Pictures, bigger letters, something... I can't see a childs book being 700 pages for some reason without it... Anyways, I'm just going to have to fight to get to the book first in my family... From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 18:44:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:44:00 -0400 Subject: Read in one weekend... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2529 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Read in one weekend... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2528] Re: Read in one weekend... Date: 6/21/00 2:44 pm (ET) <<... I can't see a childs book being 700 pages for some reason without it...>> I don't know if this one can actually be classified as a children's book anymore. If we take into consideration that Ms. Rowling's intended audience is the same age as Harry, they will be 13-14 years old. That, I believe, is classified as young adult. And those kids that will be reading it won't find that daunting at all, I think. From brp13 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 18:45:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 14:45:00 -0400 Subject: Read in one weekend... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2530 From: brp13 Subject: Re: Read in one weekend... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2529] Re: Read in one weekend... Date: 6/21/00 2:45 pm (ET) Even at that, I'm the only kid I know who had actually read a book purely for enjoyment that was over 700 pages long when I was that young... There isn't exactly alot of 700+ page books which the average person reads... From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 19:15:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:15:00 -0400 Subject: Read in one weekend... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2531 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Read in one weekend... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2530] Re: Read in one weekend... Date: 6/21/00 3:15 pm (ET) Depends on the book. I've had 150-page books that took me WEEKS to read, because they didn't "grab" me. I've also read 700 page books in one day because my entire mind and body was transported to another world. Earth no longer existed (except for the bathroom and the refrigerator!). I think this book will be one of those. By the way, Casa Grande -- get any good storm last night? Oooh, I love the monsoon monsters! From christineoswell at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 19:19:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:19:00 -0400 Subject: Read in one weekend... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2532 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: Read in one weekend... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2528] Re: Read in one weekend... Date: 6/21/00 3:19 pm (ET) >>>LOL. If this book REALLY is 750+ pages, it must be somehow consensed... Pictures, bigger letters, something...<<< I think the American version does have some illustrations in it. I just checked with Chapters online, and the Canadian version is 640 pages. Isn't that the same as the British? Christine From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 19:24:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:24:00 -0400 Subject: On all of the banning nonsense... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2533 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Re: On all of the banning nonsense... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2455] Re: On all of the banning nonsense... Date: 6/21/00 3:24 pm (ET) <i am a wiccan but i feel that if the christian God as i understand Christians to believ him to be had not wanted the books writtten then surely he would not have inspired jkr to write then. im sorry if i have got the christian beliefs wrong. please feel free to correct me> Well, it's not exactly like that. There are some Christians that believe that everything good is divinely made, and everything else is the devil's work, but, in general, I've never seen eye to eye much with those kinds. Most Christians believe in human free will, meaning that human beings can do what they want, and have quite a capacity for both works of goodness, and dark deeds. It's quite possible for someone to write something without divine intervention. With something as beautiful as the Harry Potter books, I personally would say that God's message of love and care for each other shines through quite well. In my beliefs, I would say that each person when acting in goodness to one another helps the other understand love and the ways of God more clearly. Through this, people live their lives, and do their work, such as writing, in a way that makes everyone's life better. So I suppose, in a way, you could say there's some divine influence there, but I would be more hesitant to say that God directly told JKR to write this or that. Hope that clears any questions you had up a bit. Jarnor23 From arawa_99 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 19:33:00 2000 From: arawa_99 at yahoo.com (arawa_99) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:33:00 -0400 Subject: *GUILT* Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2534 From: arawa_99 Subject: *GUILT* Date: 6/21/00 3:33 pm (ET) Hi everyone - I've been away for awhile, due to a death in the family and some emotional problems.... I wanted to apologise for not continuing the story Voicelady started... It was incredibly rude of me to not post either a story or an explanation, and I will understand if you guys want to delete me from the club for my gross discourtesy. I hope you can accept the apology I offer, and understand my situation. Thanks in advance, arawa99 From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 19:35:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:35:00 -0400 Subject: Chronicles of Prydain series Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2535 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Chronicles of Prydain series Reply To: [Yahoo! #2509] Re: The Dark is Rising Date: 6/21/00 3:35 pm (ET) You are quite right in suggesting such a great series, golden_faile, but you had one little fact incorrect. "The Black Cauldron" is actually the second book in the series. "The Book of Three" is the first. When Disney made a movie out of the series they mixed a little bit of the two books together, pulled some stuff out of thin air that never was in there, and called it "The Black Cauldron". A enjoyable movie, but definately lacking the depth that the books have. I highly recommend them - they started me on fantasy reading. Also, a more adult fantasy series that might still be enjoyable by members here is "A Song of Fire and Ice" by George R.R. Martin. The first two books in the series are out right now. Look for "A Game of Thrones" if you really want some fantasy reading that is VERY different than your standard cookie cutter clone fantasy. The book reminds me a little bit of Dune in that it has a noble family struggling to survive against political backstabbing. A very good read. From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 19:42:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:42:00 -0400 Subject: *GUILT* Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2536 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: *GUILT* Reply To: [Yahoo! #2534] *GUILT* Date: 6/21/00 3:42 pm (ET) There is absolutely nothing to feel guilty about! This is not a mandatory club, and people are free to come and go as they wish. I have missed your conversation, but I hope everything is okay with you now. Anyway, if you'd like to pick up the story, please be my guest. It's kind of been languishing, but maybe we can get it started again. Welcome back. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 19:45:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:45:00 -0400 Subject: The CD books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2537 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: The CD books Reply To: [Yahoo! #2465] The CD books Date: 6/21/00 3:45 pm (ET) I've created a RealAudio (www.real.com) file of part of Stephen Fry reading from Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. I've sampled the same section as Random House has available on their website, so that you can compare between Jim Dale and Stephen Fry. Jim Dale's version can be heard at: http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/audio/0-8072-8195-6.ram Stephen Fry's version can be heard at: http://www.rainbowplay.demon.co.uk/chap4.ram Which version do you prefer? (Note: not quality of sound over the net... but which reader gives the most impact to the story.) Nick PS. Glad the CD's arrived Neil. Did customs charge you anything, or did they slip through without extra import duty & VAT? From babynick34 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 19:52:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:52:00 -0400 Subject: Canadian & British Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2538 From: babynick34 Subject: Canadian & British Reply To: [Yahoo! #2532] Re: Read in one weekend... Date: 6/21/00 3:52 pm (ET) >I just checked with Chapters online, and the Canadian version is 640 pages. Isn't that the same as the British? Christine... from what I have seen of the Canadian versions, they are the same as the British versions. Therefore I expect Book4 will also be the same as the British version. For those of you who have both versions of the books - which do you prefer... the Hard Back Large Print with chapter illustrations (US version) or the British/Canadian version - paperback/hardback small print, no pictures. Nick. From christineoswell at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 19:57:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 15:57:00 -0400 Subject: Other books / Prydain series Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2539 From: christineoswell Subject: Other books / Prydain series Reply To: [Yahoo! #2535] Chronicles of Prydain series Date: 6/21/00 3:57 pm (ET) I LOVE this series! I have read it so many times my books are falling apart. I actually saw the movie first, then found the books a while later. I can't say it started me on fantasy, cause I have always been a big fairy tale fan (if you had asked me when I was 6, what I wanted to be when I grew up, I would have said a princess). Anyways, a few other books I have really enjoyed are the Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn Trilogy (the Dragonbone Chair, Stone of Farewell, and To Green Angel Tower) by Tad Williams. All 3 books are over 700 pages, and the third one was so big it had to be printed in 2 parts in paperback. I've also read almost every Mercedes Lackey book, though I am getting a little bored with her style. As for children's book, has anyone read any Ruth Chew? I always thought they were really cute, but can't find any anymore. Well, I could probably go on but I will stop for now. Smiles, Christine From babynick34 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 20:05:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:05:00 -0400 Subject: Cobol and King's Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2540 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Cobol and King's Cross Reply To: [Yahoo! #2521] Cobol and King's Cross Date: 6/21/00 4:05 pm (ET) Cobol: Cobol is great... first language I had to learn at college - and that was only 1989! King's Cross Station: >Margaret, you asked if the fake Platform 9-3/4 would still be standing in October? Somehow, I doubt it, but it depends what they are planning. I don't think it will be there either... even when I went up there last week, there was no sign of the preparations for the fake Platform 9 3/4. I've uploaded a new photo so you can see where they might be building the fake platform. See picture: Platform 9b >I imagine it will just be some cardboard frontages and a sign, which will be carted off the next day. More than likely, which is a shame. But we do have to remember that it is a working station. >It is, in essence, a publicity stunt for a book launch, much as we'd like it to be a shrine. I wonder if Christopher Little will sell/give me the cardboard station after it's finished it's rounds. I doubt it... but would be fun to ask! Christopher Little for those of you who do not know is Jo's agent - he is the one who is dealing with the Book Launch and new Fan Club. Nick From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 20:24:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:24:00 -0400 Subject: Read in one weekend... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2541 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Read in one weekend... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2528] Re: Read in one weekend... Date: 6/21/00 4:24 pm (ET) <LOL. If this book REALLY is 750+ pages, it must be somehow consensed... Pictures, bigger letters, something... I can't see a childs book being 700 pages for some reason without it..> Well, first I take umbrage at the mere suggestion that HP Book 4 is a "child's book." Nope. Definitely not in my world. I definitely do not think it will have any more illustrations than the first 3 (or that it will have larger print or something). JKR has said Books 4 & 7 will be the longest two books of the series. And I'm *delighted* beyond words that it will be 752 pages!! Yippee!!!!! Penny From CarverWB at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 20:29:00 2000 From: CarverWB at yahoo.com (CarverWB) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:29:00 -0400 Subject: The CD books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2542 From: CarverWB Subject: Re: The CD books Reply To: [Yahoo! #2537] Re: The CD books Date: 6/21/00 4:29 pm (ET) <Which version do you prefer? (Note: not quality of sound over the net... but which reader gives the most impact to the story.)> Thank you very much for posting the sample. I heard the Jim Dale version first, so I have a soft spot for his version. Stephen Fry does a very good job, I would cheerfully listen to him read any other book -- just not the Harry Potters. He is a good reader. There are som actors (mumble tim curry mumble) who do not make good readers. I'm glad both versions have good readers. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 20:33:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:33:00 -0400 Subject: Canadian & British Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2543 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Canadian & British Reply To: [Yahoo! #2538] Canadian & British Date: 6/21/00 4:33 pm (ET) Hi: <For those of you who have both versions of the books - which do you prefer... the Hard Back Large Print with chapter illustrations (US version) or the British/Canadian version - paperback/hardback small print, no pictures.> I prefer the British versions -- mainly because I don't know why Scholastic felt the need to "Americanize" the books at all. So, I enjoy reading them in their original (and, IMO, superior) form. And, honestly, if I weren't reading so fast and paying so little attention to anything other than the words, the illustrations in the US versions are a bit of a give-away of what's going to happen in the chapter. The illustrations, for those of you who don't know, are at the beginning of each chapter, right above the chapter title. When I was re-reading the books, I kept noticing how the illustration was a definite give-away for what happens in the chapter (some of that attributable to 20/20 hindsight of course). Likewise the cover art on the US versions gives away too much of the ending scene. I'm going to try and not look at the cover and throw the dust jacket into a closet until I'm done with Book 4 (also avoiding looking at illustrations until done). Penny From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 20:47:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:47:00 -0400 Subject: *GUILT* Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2544 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: *GUILT* Reply To: [Yahoo! #2536] Re: *GUILT* Date: 6/21/00 4:47 pm (ET) Welcome back to the club! *hugs* From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 20:53:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 16:53:00 -0400 Subject: Cobol and King's Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2545 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Cobol and King's Cross Reply To: [Yahoo! #2540] Re: Cobol and King's Cross Date: 6/21/00 4:53 pm (ET) >>>>I've uploaded a new photo so you can see where they might be building the fake platform. See picture: Platform 9b<<<< Thanks, Nick. Like I said before, I hope they have good crowd control -- it looks like an awfully small place to hold any kind of event... I would be afraid of pushing/shoving, especially if there are a lot of children milling around. Is JKR really going to be there? From pt4ever at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 21:27:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:27:00 -0400 Subject: Various replies... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2546 From: pt4ever Subject: Various replies... Date: 6/21/00 5:27 pm (ET) 1. Amazon.com -- I pre-ordered Book 4 from bn.com (Barnes & Noble), because via my spree.com membership I received a hefty discount (50%, if I remember right) in addition to the discount already offered. I think I also get 7% cash back from B&N for using my credit card to purchase it. I wish now that I had ordered from Amazon.com, so I could get my book on July 8! I'd cancel my order at bn.com, but I have this lingering fear that if I order from Amazon at this late date, all copies will be sold out and I'll have to wait even longer! Anyway, I can't wait to read it! 2. Audio books -- I wish I could afford to buy the CD versions, but I can't right now (although when my birthday arrives in November, they're going to be at the top of my wish list!). The audio verson of Sorcerer's Stone (tape) is at the local library, but it's been checked out, so I have it on hold and am anxiously awaiting for it to be returned (it's due tomorrow, according to the computer) so I can have it. I also purchased the audiobook version of CoS as an early birthday present for my twin cousins (they're going to be 12 at the end of August). I'm giving it to them in nine days because we have a 15-hour car ride ahead of us and I think the 9-hour story will keep us occupied. :) I can't wait to hear it! 3. Grammar and punctuation: My personal opinion is that individual usage of grammar and punctuation tells something about the person. IMHO, if a person does not at least make an attempt to use good grammar and punctuation (including capitalization) he/she is disrespecting whoever he/she communicating with, whether it's via snail mail, e-mail, or other mediums. Again, just my opinion. I'm also majoring in English, so I'm touchy about grammar and such. :) 4. HP in a foreign language -- I recently purchased "Harry Potter y La Piedra Filosofal" from Amazon.com. (That's the Spanish version, BTW.) I've already taken 3 college Spanish courses, and I'm taking a fourth this fall. My professor suggested that I read a book in Spanish over the summer so I wouldn't totally forget everything I've learned. He suggested "Don Quixote," but I tried to read that book in ENGLISH and I hated it, so I'm reading Harry Potter instead. :) So far, I've done the first paragraph -- and it's very different from the English/British versions. 4. Voicelady's list -- sadly, very few of those rang a bell. :) I was born in 1980, so I didn't think many would. However, I DO remember Pong, and when an Atari was the coolest thing on the planet. I also remember when the original Nintendo was brand-new and Super Mario Bros. was "the bomb"! :) Okay, I'm going to go now. Sorry if this was too long... -- JoAnna From babynick34 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 21:31:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:31:00 -0400 Subject: Cobol and King's Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2547 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Cobol and King's Cross Reply To: [Yahoo! #2545] Re: Cobol and King's Cross Date: 6/21/00 5:31 pm (ET) >Is JKR really going to be there? Well, as far as I know... Yes. According to her PA - her diary says that she will be at Kings Cross Station on the 8th July 2000. However, I have been unable to get Bloomsbury (the UK publisher) to confirm this in any way - they ignore my faxes and voice messages. In the UK things seem to be kept very 'Hush Hush' about the whole thing. I've even failed to get any responce from Christopher Little with regard to the release date - no reply to my email yet. I doubt if they will cancel events just because we've found out about their plans - but anything is possible. If anyone hears about anything that's happening please do let us all know. Nick. From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 21:40:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:40:00 -0400 Subject: One of my previous posts... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2548 From: Carlsson79 Subject: One of my previous posts... Date: 6/21/00 5:40 pm (ET) You all probably fell to sleep at my last two posts, so I am going to ask you to get a cup/mug/goldfish bowl of strong coffee, and read them again... There has been a new group set up by someone, a Harry fan, and I have been made a founder. I think I have some sort of responsibility to recruit people, and I NEED you lot. If you read my posts of 2474, and 2472, or is it 2476? Anyway - read them - allthough it looks like my poinys have been outlined here. The reason I all need you is that I am worried it is going to turn into a (RPG?). She is calling herself McGonagall, and me Dumbledore - which is allright by me, I don't want to go in the face of her club ideas, and plus, I can see what she is doing - us two being founders? Nevertheless - please join, and help me steer the group towards sensible conversation. Especially you youngins in here - hah, oldies - taste your own medicine <g>. Anyway, it is called Potter's Hangout. I didn't name it, what can I say? See you soon Nicholas PS. In Regards to an early post calle Potter as Scrooge, read Chapter Flourish and Blotts, a paragraph before we meet The Malfoy' family. Harry gives a whole set of books to Ginny, before buying his own. From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 21:47:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:47:00 -0400 Subject: Amazon.com (OT) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2549 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Amazon.com (OT) Date: 6/21/00 5:47 pm (ET) Just an off topic post. A lot of you mention the name of Amazon.com, obviously blissfully unaware that they are halting the progress of the internet. Their name just starts me off... (50 points from Slytherin, for what they are doing). I can't explain it as well as the website www.noamazon.com - so I won't try - but they really are damaging internet commerce, and I would urge you to stop buying from them. Just read the web page! Nicholas From pt4ever at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 21:48:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:48:00 -0400 Subject: Ages Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2550 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Ages Date: 6/21/00 5:48 pm (ET) Although I was born in 1980, I'm more of a child of the '90s...but voicelady's list prompted me to create one of my own! By the way, I apologize to the UK members, but since I've not yet realized by dream of visiting the UK, this is more American-based. Sorry! :) Can anyone else... 1. ...remember the theme songs to The Smurfs, Scooby-Doo, Inspector Gadget, Jem and the Holograms, She-Ra, Fraggle Rock, and/or Muppet Babies? 2. ...remember loving Scooby-Doo but HATING Scrappy-Doo? 3. ...on the same note as #2, remember when the Scooby-Doo mysteries seemed incredibly complex and you were amazed that Fred, Daphne, Thelma, Shaggy, and Scooby were able to solve them? And did you every want a Mystery Machine of your very own? 4. ...remember when snap bracelets were SO COOL? 5. ...remember New Kids on the Block? *shudder* 6. ...remember when your dad's new computer, a Tandy 1000, was a technological marvel? (Okay, this is more directed towards me...) Or when it was a blast to play "Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego" or "Oregon Trail" on the Apple computers with the green-and-black screens? 7. ...remember when break-dancing was cool and Dirty Dancing and Pretty Woman were THE movies to see? 8. ...remember when floppy disks WERE floppy? 9. ...remember when Star Trek: The Next Generation was a brand-new show? (One of my favorites, BTW...I was 8 when it premiered and I still remember how excited I was...) 10. ...remember gathering in front of the TV to watch "The Cosby Show," "American's Funniest Home Videos," "Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman" or "Quantum Leap"? Now that I'm done with that refreshing (or revolting) bout with nostalgia... The book discussion got me thinking of a book I read as a child...I believe the title was "The Little Lost Witch." It was about an all-American family who woke up one morning to find a little lost witch outside their window. They adopt her and gradually she becomes a "normal" child. It was a pretty good book and one I enjoyed. -- JoAnna From oh4boys at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 21:57:00 2000 From: oh4boys at yahoo.com (oh4boys) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:57:00 -0400 Subject: Bringing my son to Harry Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2551 From: oh4boys Subject: Re: Bringing my son to Harry Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #2484] Bringing my son to Harry Potter Date: 6/21/00 5:57 pm (ET) Donna, I think it's wonderful that your son is enjoying the Harry Potter books. I too have had a similar situation. My oldest son is 15 and reads anything he can get his hands on. (His summer job is at the library) My second son is 12 and it is such a chore to get him to read anything. I purchased the first Harry Potter book for him for his birthday last Sept. but he refused to read it. After my oldest and I started reading them he still was not interested. Finally I made him read it for an assignment he had to do for school. He soon discovered it was the "cool" book to be reading. He now loves the Harry Potter books and we are anxiously awaiting #4. From CarverWB at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 21:59:00 2000 From: CarverWB at yahoo.com (CarverWB) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 17:59:00 -0400 Subject: Cobol and King's Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2552 From: CarverWB Subject: Re: Cobol and King's Cross Reply To: [Yahoo! #2547] Re: Cobol and King's Cross Date: 6/21/00 5:59 pm (ET) <In the UK things seem to be kept very 'Hush Hush' about the whole thing. I've even failed to get any responce from Christopher Little with regard to the release date - no reply to my email yet.> I may have misunderstood, are you saying that a publicity event is being kept secret? Sounds rather counterproductive to me. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 22:02:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:02:00 -0400 Subject: Read in one weekend... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2553 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Read in one weekend... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2532] Re: Read in one weekend... Date: 6/21/00 6:02 pm (ET) "Canadian version is 640 pages. Isn't that the same as the British?" That sounds about right. I remember reading, just before Christmas, The Fifth Elephant by Terry Pratchett in one day. That was 400 pages, but pages are larger and typeface smaller then HP books so I reckon one day will be enough. Now to make sure that I have nothing else on that day! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 22:04:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:04:00 -0400 Subject: Ages Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2554 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Ages Reply To: [Yahoo! #2550] Re: Ages Date: 6/21/00 6:04 pm (ET) "By the way, I apologize to the UK members, but since I've not yet realized by dream of visiting the UK, this is more American-based. Sorry! :)" Thanks for the apology - I think it is probably not required. I read the list of things and realised that alot of them I could associate with. Simon (Who is feeling slightly older!) From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 22:14:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:14:00 -0400 Subject: Bringing my son to Harry Potter Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2555 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Bringing my son to Harry Potter Reply To: [Yahoo! #2484] Bringing my son to Harry Potter Date: 6/21/00 6:14 pm (ET) I love that story. Thanks, Donna. I am very happy to hear that your son is now reading books, and that you were insistent about making him. I wish that my mother had been more persistent about making me explore different things when I was a teenager, even though I understand now how difficult it is to fight with kids who dont want to do something! From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 22:18:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:18:00 -0400 Subject: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2556 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Reply To: [Yahoo! #2496] Okay, time to lighten things up a bit! Date: 6/21/00 6:18 pm (ET) I remember WAY too many of these things. Of course, I am almost as old as Dumbledore, so its not surprising. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 22:35:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 18:35:00 -0400 Subject: Cobol and King's Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2557 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Cobol and King's Cross Reply To: [Yahoo! #2552] Re: Cobol and King's Cross Date: 6/21/00 6:35 pm (ET) >I may have misunderstood, are you saying that a publicity event is being kept secret? That's right... daft isn't it. However, considering the crowds which gathered outside bookstores when Jo toured the US in October last year, I'm not surprised they want to keep it under wraps for as long as possible. Having large crowds at Kings Cross Station is going to cause problems. Nick From babynick34 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 23:09:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:09:00 -0400 Subject: 21 June 2000 - Latest News Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2558 From: babynick34 Subject: 21 June 2000 - Latest News Date: 6/21/00 7:09 pm (ET) And now... here is the news... (sorry, could not resist that one!) "Bloomsbury (UK Publisher) have said today that 1.5 million copies of book 4 have been printed." Did you know: anything over 5000 books is considered to be an acceptable first print run - no wonder the publishers are love Jo. Scholastic (the US publisher) is printing 3.8 million copies. 4.4 million copies of PoA were printed by Scholastic - but first run was only 250,000. "Lucky fans in America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and Ireland will be able to get their hands on the book on the same day as British readers but other countries will have to wait." Well, that's not quite true, Retuers London has it wrong there. America will be the first to get the books, as midnight EST is before 11am GMT or BST. So while most of us get the books on the same day... some of us get them sooner than others. "The saga is expected to be translated into 49 languages and sold in around 110 countries" And thus why I feel an INTERNATIONAL fan club is needed. "Bloomsbury are keeping the book's title secret before a grand launch for schoolchildren at a London railway station." So at least the launch is still going ahead - and there are not that many London railway station's to choose from... See you at Kings Cross. "Ingram Book, a major wholesaler, is getting about 75 percent of its initial order the first day, with the balance coming shortly afterward" Oh dear... sounds as though some of us won't be getting our books on the day then. "A lot of independent stores are doing a lot of different promotions for the book with all kinds of quirky, peculiar wiggles as only independent bookstores can do," said Richard Howorth, former president of the American Booksellers Association (ABA). "We're trying to beat the big guys with service." And Jo as we all know (or should know by now) loves Independent Bookstores. Strange really, when you consider her UK book signings are taking place at bookstores belonging to large chains (Borders, Waterstones). Square Books in Oxford, Miss., will open at 6 a.m. on the 8th July and will give discounts to anyone who shows up in pajamas. (The independent bookstores do have great ideas - imagine Amazon offering you that sort of deal) And Finally (UK members, read in your best ITN newsreaded style) The BBC reports that Robbie Coltrane has been approached for a part in the movie - Hagrid perhaps - though I like Neil's (I think) suggestion of Mr Dursley. Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/entertainment/newsid_798000/798459.stm That's All Folks (not sponsored by WBros... yet!) Nick. From triner2001 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 23:09:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:09:00 -0400 Subject: Anxiously awaiting July 8th & etc Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2559 From: triner2001 Subject: Anxiously awaiting July 8th & etc Date: 6/21/00 7:09 pm (ET) Yesterday I went to my local Books-a-million store to reserve my copy of HP4 and before I could finish my sentence, the clerk said "the new Harry Potter." Had to laugh! I went ahead and reserved 2 copies one for me and one for my 9yo cousin. I figure I'll send it for an early b-day gift (it's in September) BTW have enjoyed all the age reminders-boy do I feel old! And I'm only 30! I have a list of how to tell you're between a baby boomer and gen x-er and I fall right between them. Trina From houston425 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 23:23:00 2000 From: houston425 at yahoo.com (houston425) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:23:00 -0400 Subject: Ages Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2560 From: houston425 Subject: Re: Ages Reply To: [Yahoo! #2550] Re: Ages Date: 6/21/00 7:23 pm (ET) Boy, I was feeling like a grown-up after Voicelady's list. I could relate to about half of it. But JoAnna, I can relate to every single item on your list and I was born 8 years before you. I guess I'm like Trina and am caught in between the two. From nain_rouge1 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 23:28:00 2000 From: nain_rouge1 at yahoo.com (nain_rouge1) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:28:00 -0400 Subject: What does everyone think.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2561 From: nain_rouge1 Subject: What does everyone think.... Date: 6/21/00 7:28 pm (ET) about the plan to merchandise Harry Potter toys, action figures etc? I for one am not looking forward to a Harry Potter saturday morning cartoon or a free Hedwig candy dispenser with my Big Mac. I think its bit of a sell out. Ms. Rowling is not going to see the kind of money Mattel will make and I think it cheapens the experience since much of the images in my mind are more powerful than celluloid or plasticine. The movie...well that's another discussion for another time. Thanks. Nain From houston425 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 23:32:00 2000 From: houston425 at yahoo.com (houston425) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:32:00 -0400 Subject: Two questions.. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2562 From: houston425 Subject: Two questions.. Date: 6/21/00 7:32 pm (ET) ... one trivial and one not. 1.) This questions is for people who have copies of the Scholastic version. I just noticed that my dustjacket for CoS does not say Year 2 on it. SS and PoA have years 1 and 3 respectively, but there is no year 2. I'm talking about dustjackets only. Is it just me? Did I get some weird cursed version? <g> 2.) My mother brought this subject up. When is the last time you can remember a book keeping it's title underwraps? Contents of the book - yes, but it's title? It may be that I have not read enough series to have the experience to answer this question, so I will throw it out to you. Can any of you think of another example like this? Laurie BTW, saw a report today on Fox News Channel about the Harry Potter book release. First thing I've seen on the mainstream television news in a while about Harry. From david_the_bravest at yahoo.com Wed Jun 21 23:39:00 2000 From: david_the_bravest at yahoo.com (david_the_bravest) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 19:39:00 -0400 Subject: whoa Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2563 From: david_the_bravest Subject: whoa Date: 6/21/00 7:39 pm (ET) man this clubs is moving fast to fast i think i won't post for awhile From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 00:27:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:27:00 -0400 Subject: What does everyone think.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2564 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: Re: What does everyone think.... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2561] What does everyone think.... Date: 6/21/00 8:27 pm (ET) As an adult, who went through his "Star Wars figure" phase as a child, I think there is something to be said about the tactile connection an action figure gives to a child. It allows a child to continue the experience, create their own stories, and continue experiencing something that is true, fun, wonderful, and well, fairly innocent. However, just to be clear on this...the Hedgwig candy dispenser, and the items that would fall into "that" catagory, I am in complete agreement with. Although...I wouldn't say no to a Harry Potter t-shirt... Hagrid http://www.hagridshut.com From triner2001 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 00:54:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:54:00 -0400 Subject: Two questions.. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2565 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Two questions.. Reply To: [Yahoo! #2562] Two questions.. Date: 6/21/00 8:54 pm (ET) Neither my Scholastic edition of SS or CoS have the Years listed, but PoA does. I think it has to do with which printing you have. Maybe after PoA came out (and mine does have Year 3)Scholastic started putting the year at Hogwarts on the dustjackets. I bought SS and CoS about 3-4 weeks prior to PoA's release, but I have noticed in successive printings that they both have the years listed. Just my theory. Trina From davehoz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 00:57:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 20:57:00 -0400 Subject: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2566 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Reply To: [Yahoo! #2496] Okay, time to lighten things up a bit! Date: 6/21/00 8:57 pm (ET) Some more: You learned computer literacy on an Apple II+ You remember what Sesame Street was like without Elmo. (Absolutely wonderful!) Your favorite Swedish export is ABBA. You sometimes slip and refer to the VCR as "the movie projector". You know what an 8-track tape is. You know what a Vue-Master is. You remember that fleeting moment when the government was talking seriously about Solar Energy. Your favorite dragon (prior to Norbert) was H.R. Pufnstuf. Your favorite magic-worker (prior to Harry) was Horatio J. HooDoo. You think _Jurassic Park_ doesn't hold a candle to _Land of the Lost_. You have fond memories of _Space Academy_ (sort of a sci-fi Hogwarts). You remember when, where and why Rita Moreno bellowed, "HEY YOU GUYS!!!" You used to wonder if Linda Ronstadt would someday be First Lady. You remember when astronomers thought that Mercury kept the same face toward the sun, that Mars was Professor Sprout's idea of paradise, that Saturn was the only planet with rings, and that Jupiter's moons were all dead hunks of rock. From triner2001 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 01:00:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:00:00 -0400 Subject: What does everyone think.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2567 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: What does everyone think.... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2561] What does everyone think.... Date: 6/21/00 9:00 pm (ET) Well, along the same lines, has anyone seen the Wizard bear bean bag? It has a lightning scar, a pointy hat, glasses, and an owl embroidered on its chest. Of course, it doesn't *say* it's Harry, but it's pretty clear just *who* it's supposed to be. And it is pretty cute, I must admit. You can find it on a lot of webites. Trina From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 01:45:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 21:45:00 -0400 Subject: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2568 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Re: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Reply To: [Yahoo! #2566] Re: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Date: 6/21/00 9:45 pm (ET) I felt a little young for Voicelady's list and a little old for JoAnna's. On Voicelady's, for example, I do remember having a rotary dial phone that rang, but I don't remeber ever having only one in the house. Maybe we were the first on our block to have two. I remember having a black and white TV, but not watching Vietnam news on it. I do, however, remember my mother sitting with her eyes glued to it while the man on the screen kept saying (to my young ears), "Blah blah blah Watergate blah blah." I don't throw my arm in front of my driving companion, but I think think that has more to do with being a non-parent than with my age. That said, I have another Dave-contemporary list. BTW, I do remember "HEY YOU GUYS," but I never knew that was Rita Moreno. The first show of hers I saw, where I knew her by name, was the TV version of "9 to 5". She played Violet (Lily Tomlin's character in the movie). Well, enough babbling, here it is (with apologies for any Americentrcism): - You coveted that brand new, state of the art computer, the Comodore 64. - You went to see the original Star Wars when it first came out (before any sequels, prequels or digital remastering). - You role played--live--to "The Brady Bunch," "The Partridge Family," and/or "Gilligan's Island". - You remember what you were doing when you first heard President Reagan was shot. - You watched "The Electric Company" and "Big Blue Marble" as a kid. (Okay, I guess that intersected with Dave's list a bit). - You tore the tabs *all the way off* your soda cans. - You thought "banana" seats on bicycles were "neat". I have a feeling I'm forgetting some, but I think that's enough for now. Melanie From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 02:03:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:03:00 -0400 Subject: Ages Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2569 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Ages Reply To: [Yahoo! #2550] Re: Ages Date: 6/21/00 10:03 pm (ET) Ah, here we go. Now I don't feel so young and inexperienced. I remember ALL of these - and am ashamed of a few (especially the New Kids reference - luckily, I wasn't a big fan, so I'm not TOO ashamed). To this day, some pieces of classical music bring to mind the Smurfs. Which brings me to a VERY OT comment: why are Saturday morning cartoons so bad nowadays? They're just terrible. I can't imagine letting kids watch that garbage (apologies if any of you are connected in any way to said garbage). Okay, I'm done reminiscing, too. Dinner is served, and I just swam a mile this afternoon, so I'm starving. Jen From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 02:06:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:06:00 -0400 Subject: More with the lists of 70's and 80's.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2570 From: GypsyCaine Subject: More with the lists of 70's and 80's.... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2568] Re: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Date: 6/21/00 10:06 pm (ET) Ok. Can't resist. You recall how horrid your parents looked putting those crochet'd sweater vests over top the loud polyester wide lapeled shirts with the original bell bottom hip huggers and 7 inch platforms before they went out to a peace sit-down. You recall the first day Sesame Street came on the air. Sonny and Cher was the last show you could watch before being sent off to bed. The red, white and blue for the bicentential started getting on your nerves after 6 months of it. Your bedroom was painted bright orange with brown trim. You owned a Foot rug, in lime green. You owned a Pet Rock, and still have the box and "straw" along with the instruction book (that rocked!) that came with it. The Fisher Price People were your friends, and you were astonished when they came out in plastic! Sid and Marty Kroft shows on Saturdays on ABC were one of your favorite shows to watch! You also watched one show about Hats, a Jeanie, and a magician. The Nickelodeon Saturday morning flashbacks bring groans when you see Sigmund the Sea Monster, Gary Olman (prolly spelled that wrong--that Different Strokes kid) as an Angel, and a brunette Jeanie in a corvette with a high school football player. You remember being excited by Barnaby, Romper Room, and Mister Rogers (his first runs). Zoom was brand new, and their rugby's rocked! Nancy Drew, yellow backed, and Trixie Belden were your book friends, along with C.S. Lewis's Narnia. Just a few... Oh, gotta say this one: You remember that new band QUEEN's 45 of Bohemian Rhap! Grinning, Dee From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 02:53:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 22:53:00 -0400 Subject: Two questions.. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2571 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Two questions.. Reply To: [Yahoo! #2562] Two questions.. Date: 6/21/00 10:53 pm (ET) >>>1.) This questions is for people who have copies of the Scholastic version. I just noticed that my dustjacket for CoS does not say Year 2 on it. SS and PoA have years 1 and 3 respectively, but there is no year 2. I'm talking about dustjackets only. Is it just me? Did I get some weird cursed version? <g><<< You know what? I thought I was the only one! My sister has all three books in hardcover, but hers all have the years on the spine. I got mine differently, though - I bought number 2 first at Target off the shelf, then bought 1 and 3 from Amazon.com, so they came at the same time. I wonder if I happened to get an earlier printing of #2 - hence the jacket being designed prior to some bigwig at Scholastic saying "hey! We should put the year numbers on the spine!" Jen From s_ings at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 03:49:00 2000 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (S_Ings) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 23:49:00 -0400 Subject: Hi everyone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2572 From: S_Ings Subject: Hi everyone Date: 6/21/00 11:49 pm (ET) Found this club a couple days ago, and finally decided to jump in (I've been trying to read a lot of the old posts!). I bought the first book for my nephew for Christmas, but didn't read any for myself until a couple months later (my boss lent me all 3!). My sister's not big on reading to her son, so I go for occasional sleepovers and do the reading (I'm one very popular aunt - believe me). Anyway, enough said for a first post. Sheryll From Danemead at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 03:59:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2000 23:59:00 -0400 Subject: Magic vs Technology Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2573 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Magic vs Technology Reply To: [Yahoo! #2524] Re: Magic vs Technology Date: 6/21/00 11:59 pm (ET) >>>>In my opinion, modern technology gives greater power at fewer places. Basically technology is getting to a point that you could surpase wizards technology, but you would have to be in a special place to do so. Wizard's have their power everywhere, but Muggles must be in front of a computer or in a place with electricity. Just some food for thought. <<<< That's some pretty deep thought! Very much in line with a combination of modern quantum physics and ancient earth magic beliefs. Have you read "The Dancing Wu Li Masters" ? The WolfieTwins had Lupin say something like this in Chapter 5 of "Call of the Wild" fanfic.... "You take from the chaos around you and build something that didn't exist before." In other words: Magic. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 04:58:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 00:58:00 -0400 Subject: CoS dust jacket & cartoons Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2574 From: pt4ever Subject: re: CoS dust jacket & cartoons Reply To: [Yahoo! #2571] Re: Two questions.. Date: 6/22/00 12:58 am (ET) >>>1.) This questions is for people who have copies of the Scholastic version. I just noticed that my dustjacket for CoS does not say Year 2 on it. SS and PoA have years 1 and 3 respectively, but there is no year 2. I'm talking about dust jackets only. Is it just me? Did I get some weird cursed version? <g><<< My copy of CoS has "Year 2" on the dust jacket, but I bought it somewhere around February, so it was most likely after the Scholastic ppl realized their mistake and corrected it. You should hang on to your copy -- it might be a collector's item someday! Incidentally, here's something I forgot to put on my list -- Did anyone ever want a Teddy Ruxpin? (I did, but I never got one. *sniff* The emotional scarring remains...) I did, however, get a Cabbage Patch doll who had blonde hair and blue eyes, just like me (alas, now my hair is a mousy brown...). I think her name was Dorothy Jane. Or maybe it was Dorothy Ann. Something like that. Sesame Street without Elmo? There was such a thing??? BTW, I wholeheartedly agree with whoever said Saturday morning cartoons are awful. I remember the good old days when I used to rise at 7am to watch Muppet Babies, then Superman, then Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, then Looney Toons. *sigh* Those days are gone...although I must admit the idea of a Harry Potter cartoon is intriguing, if it's well done. -- JoAnna From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 05:50:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 01:50:00 -0400 Subject: More nostalgia... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2575 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: More nostalgia... Date: 6/22/00 1:50 am (ET) Since we're looking back to the good ol' days, I wonder if anyone here remembers the UK TV series, "Catweazle", starring Geoffrey Bayldon? It was made in the early 1970s and developed cult status, so I guess it made it as far as the US and elsewhere. As a hapless wizard, hurled into the 70s from an earlier age, Catweazle had a hesitant fascination with modern technology, which was similar to that demonstrated by The Weasley family in the HP series. He would call the telephone, the "telling bone", for example, and command electrical equipment to work. He also had a familiar, a toad called Touchwood. He didn't comment on the ugly flares and tank-tops worn by the other characters though, but probably assumed that they had been cursed. I think I'll dig around the shops for a video copy. Neil PS. I've just spent 45 mins reading all the posts from last night - masochist that I am, I have to read every single one! Now, I'll go back and comment on a few. At some point today, the rest of my life will begin... From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 06:11:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 02:11:00 -0400 Subject: Chrestomanci, Grownups, and Cobol? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2576 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Chrestomanci, Grownups, and Cobol? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2512] Chrestomanci, Grownups, and Cobol? Date: 6/22/00 2:11 am (ET) "Neil, I am extremely grateful to you. I have seeking the name and author of that book for over 20 years now, since I left the caring arms of the branch library where I borrowed it." [Ref: "Witch Week" by Diana Wynne Jones] You're welcome Dee. I'm looking forward to reading other books by Diana Wynne Jones. My original intention [posted aeons ago] was to explore fantasy/magic literature beyond HP, Lewis and Tolkien, and I'd bought "The Magicians of Caprona" by DWJ, "The Iron Man" by Ted Hughes and "The Colour of Magic" by Terry Pratchett. The Ted Hughes book was a sort of allegorical fable, which was interesting, but not compelling. I read it in one sitting, but it was only 62 pages long, so it was like a snack. "The Magicians of Caprona" is one of four in the Chrestomanci series by DWJ. It concerns two warring spellmaking families in an 'alternative' Italy. I loved it: Lots of wry humour and invention, if housed in somewhat transparent plot. The Terry Pratchett book I'm struggling with (sorry Simon!), but I *will* read it. I'm told his later books are more gripping, so perhaps I'll skip to one of those. I think I prefer books where 'magic' and normal life are thrown together (HP, Narnia etc) rather than complete fantasy (Terry Pratchett, Tolkien et al). Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 06:15:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 02:15:00 -0400 Subject: My last message - about other books... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2577 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: My last message - about other books... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2576] Re: Chrestomanci, Grownups, and Cobol? Date: 6/22/00 2:15 am (ET) ... and I'm overwhelmed by some of the interesting-sounding books people are mentioning, that I've never encountered before. Thanks for that - my 'potential reading' list has just grown by a mile! Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 06:20:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 02:20:00 -0400 Subject: Canadian & British Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2578 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Canadian & British Reply To: [Yahoo! #2538] Canadian & British Date: 6/22/00 2:20 am (ET) UK Book 4 is 640 pages. Interesting that Canada has the same version as the UK, rather than the US. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 06:26:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 02:26:00 -0400 Subject: Illustrations Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2579 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Illustrations Reply To: [Yahoo! #2543] Re: Canadian & British Date: 6/22/00 2:26 am (ET) "The illustrations in the US versions are a bit of a give-away of what's going to happen in the chapter." Penny, that's terrible! I would not want to look at the pictures either... Looking at the CDs, I imagine that the GrandPre illustrations used inside are the same as those used at the headers of the books chapters (some of them anyway). I can see what you mean. I guess this is one advantage of us Brits being so 'secretive'! :) Neil From babynick34 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 09:22:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 05:22:00 -0400 Subject: What does everyone think.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2580 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: What does everyone think.... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2561] What does everyone think.... Date: 6/22/00 5:22 am (ET) >about the plan to merchandise Harry Potter toys, action figures etc? As with the discussion regarding pictures in the books, I think that these images (be they pictures, toys, movie) are going to spoil the images we already have in our minds. These books have encouraged both children and adults to use their imagination. Every one here has a slightly different view of what the characters and locations look like. While I have gone out and brought the T-Shirt and Mug - I am not very likely to buy things that have other peoples images of the characters. The T-Shirt and Mug have the Hogwarts School Logo - which is printed in the books. This as far as I am concerned is the only image we should be shown - as it identifys the school houses and motto (which I think may be important in a later book). It's a hard call - part of me would like to see a movie of the books... part of me would not. Maybe I will get the movie on video - and watch it after all the books have come out. Nick. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 11:07:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 07:07:00 -0400 Subject: Book covers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2581 From: hert0661 Subject: Book covers Reply To: [Yahoo! #2562] Two questions.. Date: 6/22/00 7:07 am (ET) "1.) This questions is for people who have copies of the Scholastic version. I just noticed that my dustjacket for CoS does not say Year 2 on it. SS and PoA have years 1 and 3 respectively, but there is no year 2. I'm talking about dustjackets only. Is it just me? Did I get some weird cursed version? <g>" Alright I have the Bloomsbury versions, being British and all, but I decided to answer anyway. None of the books have the year written on the side but CoS and PoA have the year number in the blurb on the back. Interestingly PS makes no mention of it being the first of the series. All my copies are paperback of various print runs. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 11:11:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 07:11:00 -0400 Subject: Recruiting to other clubs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2582 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Recruiting to other clubs Reply To: [Yahoo! #2548] One of my previous posts... Date: 6/22/00 7:11 am (ET) "I think I have some sort of responsibility to recruit people, and I NEED you lot." Nicholas, if you NEED us, I don't see why you can't stay here and discuss the books in an intelligent fashion, as you have been doing. However, if my deduction is correct, you are saying you would prefer a club like this one, but for people more your own age. If that's the case, why not start one yourself, rather than try to convert some poor girl's fledgling RPG club into a discussion group? I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't really have the time to be involved in another HP club. It's quite demanding enough keeping up with this one! old git Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 11:13:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 07:13:00 -0400 Subject: Amazon.com (OT) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2583 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Amazon.com (OT) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2549] Amazon.com (OT) Date: 6/22/00 7:13 am (ET) "A lot of you mention the name of Amazon.com, obviously blissfully unaware that they are halting the progress of the internet." I checked out Nicholas' Amazon comment and he has a point. For those who didn't look at noamazon.com, it relates to Amazon.com's patenting of the 1-click facility (saving billing information for repeated users), which many large booksellers claim is preventing them from competing with Amazon.com. Their argument is that the 1-click software is not sufficiently mysterious to have deserved a US patent; apparently, a patent isn't merited if an expert in the field could work out how to reproduce the 'invention'. Barnes and Noble, in particular, face an expensive lawsuit if they attempt to offer a similar facility on the Internet. The noamazon.com site lists a large number of booksellers' web sites, but it's not clear whether they are supporters of this lobby against Amazon.com, or just listed as alternative vendors. Quite apart from this situation, I learned from another source that Amazon are making a loss on every book they sell (hardly surprising). They can't keep that up and survive, so, either way, it looks like they will be forced to compete with other companies or die the death... Personally, I think Amazon provides a brilliant service and if it wakes up the bookselling industry, all power to it. However, it's not healthy to have a monopoly. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 11:39:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 07:39:00 -0400 Subject: Mugwump... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2584 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Mugwump... Date: 6/22/00 7:39 am (ET) I was just looking up the word Mugwump in my trusty dictionary (Professor Dumbledore is described as 'Chief Mugwump', I think it is) and it says that in North America it refers to "an independent in politics." I wonder if Dumbledore has some sort of external role in the Ministry of Magic? I seem to recall that Fudge sends Dumbledore owls all the time, seeking advice. Dumbledore also turned down the Minister's job, but may have been appointed to some other role. Note for UK members: London's new Mayor, Ken Livingstone, is clearly a Mugwump of the highest order, and, if he can sort out the London Underground, he'll be declared a Magician too. Cultural observation: The obscure slang meaning of Mugwump is "an important person" - but it sounds to me like an insult, or the name of a large puppet invented by Jim Henson, so it's hardly surprising that it fell out of favour. Neil Sorry about all these posts in a row - I seem to be most active when everyone else is asleep or tied up. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 11:54:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 07:54:00 -0400 Subject: Recruiting to other clubs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2585 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Recruiting to other clubs Reply To: [Yahoo! #2582] Recruiting to other clubs Date: 6/22/00 7:54 am (ET) "However, if my deduction is correct, you are saying you would prefer a club like this one, but for people more your own age. If that's the case, why not start one yourself, rather than try to convert some poor girl's fledgling RPG club into a discussion group?" If this person is after the setting up of an RPG group then, at the end of the day, as she is founder then it is really her choice as to the direction the group takes. This also means that if you are not happy with the direction that Penny wishes to tke this group in then you should look elsewhere or set up a new group which is more to your liking. "I can't speak for anyone else, but I don't really have the time to be involved in another HP club. It's quite demanding enough keeping up with this one!" I am already involved here and on the HP newsgroup and do not think I could find enogh time to cope with anothre group. I have many other interests in life and cannot and do not want to spend the whole of my time on the computer discussing HP, great though the discussions are. Simon (12 days to go) From christineoswell at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 11:56:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 07:56:00 -0400 Subject: Amazon.com (OT) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2586 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: Amazon.com (OT) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2583] Re: Amazon.com (OT) Date: 6/22/00 7:56 am (ET) I had read an article a while back that suggested the bitterness the large book sellers have against Amazon is that since Amazon has been around almost from the beginning of ecommerce and have built up such a large share of the internet market, the older "physical" bookstores will have a hard time competing if they go online as well. I can see that the patent is pretty stupid, but can anyone honestly say that they would choose a company that saved their info over one that didn't, or would you choose a company by service and selection? I, personally, would choose the latter... Christine From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 12:00:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 08:00:00 -0400 Subject: Amazon.com (OT) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2587 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Re: Amazon.com (OT) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2586] Re: Amazon.com (OT) Date: 6/22/00 8:00 am (ET) I hate to say it, but I am a strong fan of Amazon. Even when I have had problems, they have been solved quickly and efficiently. Their pricing is usually lowest, but that's due to their not having chain stores to keep up. The entrepreneur who started Amazon started in his garage with an idea, and it grew madly. Just a thought. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 12:02:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 08:02:00 -0400 Subject: Mugwump... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2588 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Mugwump... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2584] Mugwump... Date: 6/22/00 8:02 am (ET) "I wonder if Dumbledore has some sort of external role in the Ministry of Magic? I seem to recall that Fudge sends Dumbledore owls all the time, seeking advice. Dumbledore also turned down the Minister's job, but may have been appointed to some other role." I would assume that he is an adviser to the Ministry of Magic. In PS, just before Harry goes through the trapdoor, it says Dumbledore has been called away on urgent business at the Ministry. This must happen from time to time for him to accept this request (even though it is infact not from the Ministry) and actually go to London. "Sorry about all these posts in a row - I seem to be most active when everyone else is asleep or tied up." I would have posted some replies to messages earlier, but when I got up Yahoo was not allowing posts. I am not sure why but it seems to be working again now. I should probably now apologise as I must, by now, have quite a few messages in a row! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 12:11:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 08:11:00 -0400 Subject: Amazon.com (OT) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2589 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Amazon.com (OT) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2587] Re: Amazon.com (OT) Date: 6/22/00 8:11 am (ET) I have shopped now with a variety of online stores. I am, as I am British, commenting on Amazon.co.uk, WHSmiths (a large UK bookshop that has moved into online world) and jungle.com (computer stuff and music). I have always found Amazon to be the quickest at getting stuff to me. I haved ordered stuff around dinner time and had it the next morning even though I only use the standard delivery option. However I find that Amazon is not always the cheapest. Take, for interest, the latest HP book. '8.24 from WHSmiths compared to '11.74 on a book with recommended price of '14.99 (both prices include delivery). This is quite a large difference and is by no means uncommon. At the end of the day it seems to be down to chance as to which of the retailers have the products at the cheapest price. I will continue to shop at Amazon as I have always been impressed with there service. Simon From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 12:36:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 08:36:00 -0400 Subject: Amazon.com (OT) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2590 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: Amazon.com (OT) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2589] Re: Amazon.com (OT) Date: 6/22/00 8:36 am (ET) > I will continue to shop at Amazon Did you read the Website? Nicholas From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 12:57:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 08:57:00 -0400 Subject: Amazon.com (OT) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2591 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: Amazon.com (OT) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2583] Re: Amazon.com (OT) Date: 6/22/00 8:57 am (ET) > Their argument is that the 1-click software is not sufficiently mysterious to have deserved a US patent; apparently, a patent isn't merited if an expert in the field could work out how to reproduce the 'invention'. It really is simple. I am sorry I am beggining to sound tetchy (beggining) - bound to be a spelling error - <g>. Anyway - it IS SIMPLE! Take almost any large website - when you are logged on with your own computer, you can save a 'cookie' file - that gives you a personal experience. Yahoo, for instance. They store details about which clubs ou are in, monitor, they will keep a list of stocks, shares - chat names, Yahoo! ID's - and chat rooms you have marked out as favourites, and, as you are not logged on as a guest - you can customise the entire experience. Granted, the Cookie may expire aftery, or 15 minutes, in my case - but you can go to your own personalised clubs with a click. Even with little technicall knowledge, you should be able to see that these cookies have ben around for ages, and were not invented by Amazon. Not even the one-click system was - despite they are the first to use it for shopping. Incindentally - Netscape invented cookies, to my knowledge. The use of this is fine, but by tryng to patent such an obvious technology - which was not invented by themselves is bad. They are getting money out of something they didn't invent - and threaten to halt e-commerce. The fact that this patent was granted is stupid, as the US patent ofice obviously didn't have a monkeys what this technology was. This is to me, is quite appauling. They may as well patent the way people use cash registers, or HTML web pages! They are facing hefty legal costs in the short term, and a huge loss as they drag people in with special offers, and vouchers - but if they keeps suing people for the use of cookies - they'll have the web to themelves. They are being totally imorall - and the only thing we can do is 'vote with our money' - I really think you should all question your moral values and then take a good look at what amazon are actually doing, and how they will damage the internet. Then make up your minds. I knw what their service is like - my friends used to use it - but just think of the consequences - if they win this court case, and then others. What else have I got to say - not much. Sorry. I know this was long, but I am no good at explaining things, especially if they really annoy me. Nicholas From golden_faile at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 13:11:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:11:00 -0400 Subject: Chronicles of Prydain series Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2592 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: Chronicles of Prydain series Reply To: [Yahoo! #2535] Chronicles of Prydain series Date: 6/22/00 9:11 am (ET) Thaank you Jarnor. I think I started with The Black Cauldron and then went on from there. I have since read them to my son,and another book of short stories The Foundling. I am currently reading Legends, also trying to get through 40+ Dragonslance books. My son and I anxiously await book 4 in the HP stories. I'm also waitng for Winters Heart by Robert Jordan, due to be released in Nov.. I hope in book 4, Harry gets to see Syrius Black and maybe he(Syrius) can get cleared of his charges. I think that would be a nice touch, but I fear that would leave the Dursleys out of the loop! How do you feel about it? Well, enough of my ramblings! From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 13:18:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:18:00 -0400 Subject: Various replies... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2593 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: Various replies... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2546] Various replies... Date: 6/22/00 9:18 am (ET) ok, I'm guessing that the capitalization (is that with an s or a z?) comment (fair game by the way!) was aimed at me so I'll try and be good. See, I used it in this post. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 13:20:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:20:00 -0400 Subject: Amazon.com (OT) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2594 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Amazon.com (OT) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2591] Re: Amazon.com (OT) Date: 6/22/00 9:20 am (ET) Yes I did read the website, as I have done a few times before, when similar comments have been made to me. If I were to follow on your logic then I should also stop using Microsoft products as they to are in some ways reducing computer development. But, where after saying that I should not use anything associated with these two companies, do I stop? I could find quite legitimate reasons for not using any of the online retailers or computer software companies. Should I stop using a computer all together? But then I go out and find similar problems the whole way down the high street. What should I do then? Become a hermit? Of course there is the even bigger problem, that is about to surface, over the patent of the hyperlink http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_798000/798475.stm for more info). Does this mean that I should stop using BT as they also, through this patent, are going to hold computer technology back. Amazon are trying to do some postive things. They are after a change in patent law, for anything relating to computers. They admit there is a problem and are looking at coming to a sensible conclusion. In each case there are two sides and by no means does noamazon.com have it completely right. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 13:22:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:22:00 -0400 Subject: Amazon.com (OT) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2595 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Amazon.com (OT) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2589] Re: Amazon.com (OT) Date: 6/22/00 9:22 am (ET) I think Nicholas is right, although I'm no expert on the technology involved. Also http://www.noamazon.com lists a number of other online retailers. I checked Waterstones (UK bookshop), for example, and they are promising Book 4 at '7.50, ready to collect first thing on 8th July. I think they can only deliver to a local branch of their shop though... Neil From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 13:27:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:27:00 -0400 Subject: Chrestomanci, Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2596 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: Chrestomanci, Reply To: [Yahoo! #2576] Re: Chrestomanci, Grownups, and Cobol? Date: 6/22/00 9:27 am (ET) Diana W J has just republished all of her books including a new one in the chrestomanci series. (I bought mine from Hammocks) The new one is called mixed magics adn is quite ammusing. I thought that her best on ever has got to be Howl's moving Castle.....Calcifer just cracks me up............... OK, so that wasn't really Harry Potter but if you get the chance to read any of her books please take it up because they're really good. actually, I might just go and set up a club for her....... From golden_faile at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 13:29:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:29:00 -0400 Subject: What does everyone think.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2597 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: What does everyone think.... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2564] Re: What does everyone think.... Date: 6/22/00 9:29 am (ET) I think the candy would be a better sell. Can you imagine getting Anyflavor beans or the chocolate frogs? I know my son would LOVE them! From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 13:33:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:33:00 -0400 Subject: On all of the banning nonsense... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2598 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: On all of the banning nonsense... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2533] Re: On all of the banning nonsense... Date: 6/22/00 9:33 am (ET) ok, thanks, I just didn't want to offend anyone elses views on religion and stuff. thanks for clarifying things for me From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 13:39:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:39:00 -0400 Subject: FAQ Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2599 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: FAQ Reply To: [Yahoo! #2497] Re: FAQ Date: 6/22/00 9:39 am (ET) been learning it at school for two years (RE:German) From golden_faile at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 13:56:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 09:56:00 -0400 Subject: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2600 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Reply To: [Yahoo! #2570] More with the lists of 70's and 80's.... Date: 6/22/00 9:56 am (ET) Okay you twisted my arm! Since you insisted here goes. Watching The Captain and Tenille and Donny and Marie. When Welcome Back Kotter wasn't a re-run. Going to see Grease with your mom. Singing along with The Archies and Josie and the Pussycats. When Jonny Quest wasn't so "new". Owning Sea Monkeys. Thinking Julie Andrews was the greatest thing since sliced cheese. Buying 16 magazine and drooling over Matt Dillon. From triner2001 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 14:23:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:23:00 -0400 Subject: Chapter Illustrations Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2601 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Chapter Illustrations Date: 6/22/00 10:23 am (ET) Thank you for pointing out that they are a bit of a spoiler! <g> I honestly *never* paid any attention to them as I always always too eager to get right to the text! Looking back, I suppose they are, but I'll simply consider them teasers. Trina From triner2001 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 14:52:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 10:52:00 -0400 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2602 From: triner2001 Subject: Other books Date: 6/22/00 10:52 am (ET) Ok, since I can't read posts, *I'll* post. Although I enjoy fantasy (obviously, as I adore Harry!), I'm very picky about it. I've read the Terry Brooks _Magic Kingdon For Sale-Sold!_ series. I liked the idea of buying a fantasy land. Of course after the 2nd book Ben Holiday, former attorney from Chicago, has pretty much adjusted to life surrounded by magic, but still a good read. Also a favorite, _Songs from the Seashell Archives_ by Elizabeth Scarborough. Total fantasy, but doesn't take itself too seriously. A reference to "lion and tigers and bears" is in the first chapter. The _Godmother_ series put magic in the "real" world, and recreates familiar fairy tales in modern terms. As for on-line book buying, I've never done it. Part of my enjoyment of the book buying process is the bookstore itself, the seductive smell of paper and ink, the wide shelves filled with books, wandering through the aisles picking up books at random and leafing through them, deciding if they're right for me, getting lost in one standing in the aisle... But, who knows, I may venture into cybershopping for books in the future, at least for books I *know* are good (ie Harry). Trina From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 15:53:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 11:53:00 -0400 Subject: Chrestomanci, Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2603 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Re: Chrestomanci, Reply To: [Yahoo! #2596] Re: Chrestomanci, Date: 6/22/00 11:53 am (ET) What is the proper order of books for this series? I have read Witch Week, but nothing else, and I am habitual in that I like to start with book one, and move onto the next, and so on... Thanks! Dee From _Garak at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 16:36:00 2000 From: _Garak at yahoo.com (_Garak) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 12:36:00 -0400 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2604 From: _Garak Subject: Re: Other books Reply To: [Yahoo! #2602] Other books Date: 6/22/00 12:36 pm (ET) I read the Magic Kingdom books as well, but I found they started to get irritating after a while. Something about Terry Brooks' style, I think. Has anyone watched or read Neverwhere? It's a British miniseries and also a book (which I haven't read). It has a lot of the same flavour as Harry Potter--it's set mostly in a world that (like Diagon Alley etc.) operates "behind" London. I also recommend The Neverending Story (the book is much better than the films, as books made into films usually are--another example is The English Patient). Naturally that's not the extent of the fantasy I like, just the examples that are most likely to appeal to HP lovers! Elim Garak P.S. If anyone is wondering who I am, it's because I just joined. From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 17:07:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:07:00 -0400 Subject: ATTN: Founders - My messages... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2605 From: Carlsson79 Subject: ATTN: Founders - My messages... Date: 6/22/00 1:07 pm (ET) I know I got a bit annoyed about Amazon - and what I want to know is where all the replies to my Amazon post have gon - including the last one I posted? Is this why people have been moaning about Yahoo!? Or were they deleted on purpose? I just would like to know what is going on. As clubs is going a bit weird - maybe you could mail me? Carlsson79 at yahoo.com From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 17:08:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:08:00 -0400 Subject: Chronicles of Prydain series Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2606 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Re: Chronicles of Prydain series Reply To: [Yahoo! #2592] Re: Chronicles of Prydain series Date: 6/22/00 1:08 pm (ET) Ah, "The Foundling" is a great set of short stories for those who have read the other books and are familiar with the characters. I take it you have gone back and read "The Book of Three"? I'd have to say, definately try out the "A Song of Fire and Ice" series by George R.R. Martin. Given your tastes in reading, I could see you liking it, although there are a few bits with a little bit more sex and/or violence than you may want for your son to hear, but for a series for mom to read, I highly recommend it. "A Game of Thrones" is the first book if you want to try those out. My heart leapt at finding that Black should be Harry's legal guardian, and was quite disappointed that he had to go back to the Dursley's. I do see the comedy in the situations of having him at the Dursley's as it allows some fun at the uberMuggles' expense, but I might not mind seeing Black get cleared and have a change of pace with Harry living someplace healthy, and having a good summer for a change of pace. At least for the last book or two. Just my thoughts on the matter. Jarnor From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 17:29:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:29:00 -0400 Subject: On all of the banning nonsense... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2607 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Re: On all of the banning nonsense... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2598] Re: On all of the banning nonsense... Date: 6/22/00 1:29 pm (ET) Hey, not a problem. I don't mind clarifying any questions one might have. I try to avoid having my faith misrepresented as much as I'll bet you do with yours. :) No offense taken. Jarnor23 From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 17:34:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:34:00 -0400 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2608 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Re: Other books Reply To: [Yahoo! #2602] Other books Date: 6/22/00 1:34 pm (ET) Oh, agreed! The "Magic Kingdom For Sale - Sold!" line is outstanding work. Especially for those of us who would like to leave these Muggle jobs and take up something that makes more sense, like being a wizard, or a knight, or fighting against the forces of darkness. Something along those lines. :) Jarnor23 From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 17:39:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:39:00 -0400 Subject: How to solve the Yahoo problem... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2609 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: How to solve the Yahoo problem... Date: 6/22/00 1:39 pm (ET) Simon mentioned a solution to the Yahoo problem before, but I have located step-by-step instructions on how to get round it. It seems complicated, but I've tested it, and it works. 1) Click on "Messages", from the left frame. 2) Right-click your mouse on the last message listed and select "copy shortcut". 3) Go the URL (address) box at the top of the browser page and clear the contents. 4) Right-click your mouse and select "paste" to enter the URL into the box. 5) In the URL now appearing in the box, edit the word "messages" to "post". 6) Click enter to bring that message up. 7) The number right at the end of the URL is the number of that message. You can view the messages after it by editing the number and clicking enter. It will let you reply to messages as you bring them up, but to make a new post, you'll need to return to "Home". Note: During the procedure, you lose the left-hand menu frame, so this is not a solution, just a way round the problem. Hope this helps. Of course, it's no use to you until you can read this!!! Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 17:51:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 13:51:00 -0400 Subject: How to solve the Yahoo problem... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2610 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: How to solve the Yahoo problem... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2609] How to solve the Yahoo problem... Date: 6/22/00 1:51 pm (ET) Naturally, the blasted thing starts working again as soon as I've posted the message! I suggest you all print out the instructions for future use, unless you have the patience to wait for it to resolve itself each time. Nicholas, your messages weren't deleted, I think. For anyone who's wondering what this is all about, Yahoo sometimes has a problem keeping up with the postings. It seems to store all the new posts in some sort of buffer (stop me if I'm talking nonsense here), which is usually updated automatically, I imagine. If you attempt to click on the messages that appear in the "Home" window, it opens the page with messages 1-40 (hmmm - I don't need to tell most of you that, I guess). If you display "Messages" it seems to return to the state of play before the previous update. My guess is they have some sort of scanning software that periodically throws a wobbly. I hope they haven't applied for a patent for that, because it's a pile o' cack! Neil - who knows nothing about Yahoo, and is guessing, so please correct him... From mewilliamson at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 18:10:00 2000 From: mewilliamson at yahoo.com (mewilliamson) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:10:00 -0400 Subject: Book List?? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2611 From: mewilliamson Subject: Book List?? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2577] My last message - about other books... Date: 6/22/00 2:10 pm (ET) Would someone mind compiling a list of all the books people have mentioned? I would but I don't have the patience or the time to do it. I would really like to know what books that have been mentioned I haven't read. Meg From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 18:39:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:39:00 -0400 Subject: Chrestomanci, Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2612 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: Chrestomanci, Reply To: [Yahoo! #2603] Re: Chrestomanci, Date: 6/22/00 2:39 pm (ET) 1. The nine lives of Christopher Chant 2. the other major Chrestomanci one (can't remember title) 3. I'd have to say Magicians of Caprona 4. Witch Week If you have read number one first then number two you can see loads of people as children (1) and then when they are adults (2) there is no real order apart from the first two have to be read as one being before two. From Danemead at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 18:41:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:41:00 -0400 Subject: Mugwump... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2613 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Mugwump... Date: 6/22/00 2:41 pm (ET) >>>>Sorry about all these posts in a row - I seem to be most active when everyone else is asleep or tied up. Neil<<<<< I don't like to be tied up, it gives me a fear complex. However, I do like to be asleep! Has anyone ever caught themselves READING during a dream? I remember reading long magazine articles about various topics that were currently interests of mine, but as soon as I woke up, I forgot what the articles said. Maybe someday, some brilliant person will invent a way to videotape our dreams. From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 18:42:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:42:00 -0400 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2614 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: Other books Reply To: [Yahoo! #2604] Re: Other books Date: 6/22/00 2:42 pm (ET) the Belgariad and Mallorean series by David Eddings (as well as the Elenium and Tamuli) are also really good. I find that the Tamuli is better than the elenium but the Mallorian is better than the Belgariad becase in the Mallorean (Bel)garion knows what he is From christineoswell at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 18:45:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:45:00 -0400 Subject: Other books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2615 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: Other books Reply To: [Yahoo! #2614] Re: Other books Date: 6/22/00 2:45 pm (ET) Oh ya, I loved all of Melanie Rawn's books too. Can't remember the names of them, but she has 2 series plus a few collaborations. Christine From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 18:45:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:45:00 -0400 Subject: On all of the banning nonsense... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2616 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: On all of the banning nonsense... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2607] Re: On all of the banning nonsense... Date: 6/22/00 2:45 pm (ET) Christians are at an advantage when it comes to having their faith understood, many people think that wicca is satan worship and evil. Many of my friends, when I first told them that I was a pagan said 'oh, but pagan sounds evil' whereas Paganism is just any religion that is not Jewish, Islamic or Christian. Thank you once more for helping me to broaden my horizons. From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 18:51:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:51:00 -0400 Subject: Book List?? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2617 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: Book List?? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2611] Book List?? Date: 6/22/00 2:51 pm (ET) ok, vague list here: Terry Brooks Diana Wynne Jones Elizabeth Scarborough David Eddings A series called Neverwhere and as I've deleted the rest of the mails thats all I can do. I think Terry Brooks and the Chrestomanci series by Diana Wynne Jones were the main ones. I would also have to recomend Howls Moving Castle also by Diana Wynne Jones From Danemead at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 18:57:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 14:57:00 -0400 Subject: OT -You're a REALLY old grown-up when... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2618 From: Danemead Subject: OT -You're a REALLY old grown-up when... Date: 6/22/00 2:57 pm (ET) You know you're an Ancient One if you remember where you were when you heard that (USA) President Kennedy had been shot. [November 1963] Me - on the playground, 6th grade. Some kid who had gone home for lunch came running back shouting "President Kennedy's been shot!" and we all told him to shut up because we thought he was being a smartass. Then over the P.A. system, the principal asked everyone to return immediately to their classrooms. My teacher very kindly left the lights off as the announcement came over the PA that Kennedy was dead, and I for one sat sobbing with my head on my desk. Then we were all sent home. To this day, nearly 40 years later, I'm still sitting here with tears in my eyes, remembering. From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 19:25:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:25:00 -0400 Subject: OT -You're a REALLY old grown-up whe Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2619 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: OT -You're a REALLY old grown-up whe Reply To: [Yahoo! #2618] OT -You're a REALLY old grown-up when... Date: 6/22/00 3:25 pm (ET) You know you're an Ancient One if you remember where you were when you heard that (USA) President Kennedy had been shot. [November 1963] I was a gestating fetus when Kennedy was shot. *smile* It felt like a tidal wave. From CarverWB at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 19:45:00 2000 From: CarverWB at yahoo.com (CarverWB) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 15:45:00 -0400 Subject: OT -You're a REALLY old grown-up whe Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2620 From: CarverWB Subject: Re: OT -You're a REALLY old grown-up whe Reply To: [Yahoo! #2618] OT -You're a REALLY old grown-up when... Date: 6/22/00 3:45 pm (ET) <You know you're an Ancient One if you remember where you were when you heard that (USA) President Kennedy had been shot. [November 1963]> One 'expert' said "The generations can be divided into those who remember where they were when John Kennedy was shot and those who weren't born yet." Hello. Then there are those of us who turned 30 right before they cancelled Thirtysomething. When we were starting elementary school, the hippies were profiled in Time magazine. When we were in high school the college/yuppies were profiled in time. When we were in college the Yuppies and High Scoolers were in Time... and so it goes. And so it's been. Even with some of these lists! *sigh* From dee_97527 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 20:41:00 2000 From: dee_97527 at yahoo.com (dee_97527) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:41:00 -0400 Subject: OT -You're a REALLY old grown-up whe Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2621 From: dee_97527 Subject: Re: OT -You're a REALLY old grown-up whe Reply To: [Yahoo! #2618] OT -You're a REALLY old grown-up when... Date: 6/22/00 4:41 pm (ET) <<You know you're an Ancient One if you remember where you were when you heard that (USA) President Kennedy had been shot. [November 1963]>> I was a senior in high school. The news came during a math class (Algebra II). Diann From davehoz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 20:57:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:57:00 -0400 Subject: Some more annoying POA Questions... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2622 From: davehoz Subject: Some more annoying POA Questions... Date: 6/22/00 4:57 pm (ET) (DISCLAIMER: I am *NOT* "dissing" POA -- It's my favorite book in the series so far. I just think these are interesting questions.) -- When the boggart turns into the moon, why doesn't Lupin start transforming? -- Lupin says that werewolves are a danger only to humans; so why is Hagrid worried that Lupin ate Buckbeak? -- How can it be that on that critical night Lupin forgot to take his potion, *and* "left the Map running" (so that Snape saw it), *and* suggested manacling *himself* to Pettigrew? Does the full moon also erode his Better Judgement? -- In the scene in Snape's office he says to Lupin "Don't you think [Harry] got [the Map] *straight from the manufacturers*?!" The insinuation being that Lupin gave Harry the Map himself. But how could Snape come to such a conclusion unless he's aware of the Fab Four's secret nicknames, and if he is, didn't he ever wonder where those nicknames came from? -- Does anyone else wonder if Cho's bevavior toward Harry during the Quidditch match (tailing him, coquettishly blocking him, etc.) is a grim forshadowing of what their romantic relationship will be like? From babynick34 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 20:59:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 16:59:00 -0400 Subject: UK TOUR and Kings Cross Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2623 From: babynick34 Subject: UK TOUR and Kings Cross Date: 6/22/00 4:59 pm (ET) Hi all I've finally got a reply from Bloomsbury. Here is what Jo will be doing in the UK: 8th July -------- Launch - see below 17th July --------- 9-11am Harrods, London 1-2pm Waterstones Picadilly, London 3.30- 5pm Hatchards, London 18th July --------- 9.30 -11am Dulwich Bookshop, Dulwich Village, London 12.30- 2pm Ottakars, Bromley 6.30- 8pm Borders, Brighton 19th July --------- 10-11.30 Books Etc Finchley Road, London 1.30-2.30pm WHS Brentcross 5- 6pm Hammicks, St Albans JK Rowling will also be doing a few more events around the country between 8th and 11th July, however details of these have not yet been finalised. The phone line (0870 16 464 927 87) will have a list of bookshops which have tickets to give away for these events, they should be able to give you this information from the start of next week. Kings Cross - 8th July ---------------------- The Kings Cross launch is intended as a press launch, so there will not be a signing session at that time. Members of the public will be able to watch however. --- So... that's the latest on Jo's UK tour. Anyone had any luck getting any tickets? I'd love to see any of you who are able to make it to Kings Cross station on the 8th July. Current plan is to meet outside Platform 9-11 entrance (photos) at 10am. Nick. From davehoz at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 21:25:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:25:00 -0400 Subject: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2624 From: davehoz Subject: Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Reply To: [Yahoo! #2570] More with the lists of 70's and 80's.... Date: 6/22/00 5:25 pm (ET) >You recall the first day Sesame Street came on the air. I'm not quite *that* old, but I do remember some of the "lost" early characters like Herbert Birdsfoot, Molly the Mail-carrier (played by Charlotte Rae), orange Oscar, brown Grover, *Little* Bird, Sam the Robot, and the ever-narcoleptic Professor Hastings, who made Professor Binns look like Carl Sagan. (I can just imagine Hastings teaching Defense Against the Dark Arts!). >Sonny and Cher was the last show you could watch before being sent >off to bed. For me it was the Carol Burnett Show. >The red, white and blue for the bicentential started getting on your nerves >after 6 months of it. Yes! And my fanatically patriotic 2nd grade teacher didn't help... >The Fisher Price People were your friends, and you were astonished when >they came out in plastic! I never forgave them for giving the Fisher Price People arms and legs! >Sid and Marty Kroft shows on Saturdays on ABC were one of your >favorite shows to watch! You also watched one show about Hats, a >Jeanie, and a magician. I'm so mad because Rhino Video has come out with *four* H.R. Pufnstuf tapes but only *one* of Lidsville! (I'm also a big Bugaloos fan who's praying that the rumors aren't true that Britney Spears will play Joy in the movie!) >You remember being excited by Barnaby, Romper Room, and >Mister Rogers (his first runs). Zoom was brand new, and their rugby's rocked! I'm a big Mister Rogers fan -- I even remember when Lady Elaine Fairchild flew to Jupiter, long before _Voyager_ and _Galileo_. I also loved _Zoom_. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 21:26:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:26:00 -0400 Subject: Some more annoying POA Questions... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2625 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Some more annoying POA Questions... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2622] Some more annoying POA Questions... Date: 6/22/00 5:26 pm (ET) "Lupin says that werewolves are a danger only to humans; so why is Hagrid worried that Lupin ate Buckbeak?" Maybe Hagrid is not that up on the care of magical creatures after all. It seems he has given into the standard assumptions about werewolves. "How can it be that on that critical night Lupin forgot to take his potion, *and* "left the Map running" (so that Snape saw it), *and* suggested manacling *himself* to Pettigrew? Does the full moon also erode his Better Judgement?" He was expecting something to happen that evening, and rather than forgetting to take the potion he had just not yet had it. He then saw Peter on the map and reacted instantly, letting his emotions get the better of him. I just believe he was not concentrating on the issue of the full moon but rather on the fact that one of his closest friends had just been proved innocent and that another of his friends had 'come back from the dead'. "In the scene in Snape's office he says to Lupin "Don't you think [Harry] got [the Map] *straight from the manufacturers*?!" This has always puzzled me as the tome suggests that he knows that the map was from Lupin and the rest. It could however be that Snape was trying to say that Harry has been hanging around with those involved with the dark arts. "Does anyone else wonder if Cho's bevavior toward Harry during the Quidditch match (tailing him, coquettishly blocking him, etc.) is a grim forshadowing of what their romantic relationship will be like?" I can see it as more likely being the other way round, with Harry chasing after a girl that does not want him or is at least playing hard to get. All part of the idea of 'falling for the wrong person'. Simon From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 21:48:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 17:48:00 -0400 Subject: Some more annoying POA Questions... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2626 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Some more annoying POA Questions... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2622] Some more annoying POA Questions... Date: 6/22/00 5:48 pm (ET) Hi: I'll take a shot at some of these (I've wondered the same things myself everytime I re-read PoA): <-- When the boggart turns into the moon, why doesn't Lupin start transforming?> I would think maybe it has to be the *actual* moon for it to cause transformation. A subquestion: what happens to a boggart if you are unable to make it go away? Does it just follow you around in the form that causes you great fright until you (or someone) get rid of it?? <-- How can it be that on that critical night Lupin forgot to take his potion, *and* "left the Map running" (so that Snape saw it), *and* suggested manacling *himself* to Pettigrew? Does the full moon also erode his Better Judgement?> Like Simon, I imagine that Lupin would have taken his potion in due course if he'd just remained in his office a bit longer. But, when he saw Black & Pettigrew on the map, his instinct was to run into the fray -- he forgot all about the potion in the excitement of all that. Same thing for leaping up and leaving the Map in full view. And, as for manacling himself to Pettigrew & Ron, it's easy to see that he would forget about it being a full moon. He's just spent an hr or more in the Shrieking Shack, hearing things that must have rocked his world so to speak. <-- In the scene in Snape's office he says to Lupin "Don't you think [Harry] got [the Map] *straight from the manufacturers*?!" The insinuation being that Lupin gave Harry the Map himself. But how could Snape come to such a conclusion unless he's aware of the Fab Four's secret nicknames, and if he is, didn't he ever wonder where those nicknames came from?> I've always been *very* puzzled by the reference to the "manufacturers." If he did think Lupin gave Harry the Map, then why would he fall for the "it's just a joke shop product, I'll take it & get rid of it. We'll all be on our way now." No, if he really believed *Lupin* was a manufacturer, he'd have thrown a fit and detained them. Maybe he was just accusing Harry of consorting with the dark forces that had created this Map (as Simon suggested). Very puzzling! <-- Does anyone else wonder if Cho's bevavior toward Harry during the Quidditch match (tailing him, coquettishly blocking him, etc.) is a grim forshadowing of what their romantic relationship will be like?> Yes, and since (a) I'm predisposed to dislike Cho inexplicably, and (b) I'm in favor of Harry ending up with Hermione in the end -- I don't think this is altogether bad. I think Cho is definitely his "Ms. Wrong." I think she'll lead him a merry chase in Book 4, but I somehow think it might end up being unrequited love for poor Harry. Or they'll date a bit and she'll dump him. Penny From triner2001 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 22:04:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:04:00 -0400 Subject: Some more annoying POA Questions... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2627 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Some more annoying POA Questions... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2622] Some more annoying POA Questions... Date: 6/22/00 6:04 pm (ET) >>When the boggart turns into the moon, why doesn't Lupin start transforming?<< Maybe because it isn't truly the moon. It only takes the shape of what truly frightens people. >>Does the full moon also erode his better judgement?<< Think of it this way, if you saw proof positive that someone you thought had been dead for 12 years was most definitely dead, common sense may take a holiday. >>Cho's behavior toward Harry...forshadowing...their romantic relationship?" Call me a linear thinker, but I just assumed she knew there was no way her Comet could match his Firebolt so she was simply riding his coattails. I've noticed that the other seekers tend to follow Harry as well. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 22:22:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:22:00 -0400 Subject: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2628 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Reply To: [Yahoo! #2600] Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Date: 6/22/00 6:22 pm (ET) Hi: <Okay you twisted my arm! Since you insisted here goes. Watching The Captain and Tenille and Donny and Marie. When Welcome Back Kotter wasn't a re-run. Going to see Grease with your mom. Singing along with The Archies and Josie and the Pussycats. ..... Buying 16 magazine and drooling over Matt Dillon.> We had the same childhood golden_faile -- we must be about the same age. A child of the 70s! Only you might be a bit younger, as for me I seem to remember Tiger Beat magazine and the idols of my era were Shaun Cassidy (I always preferred brother David by far though), Leif Garret, Eric Estrada, Andy Gibb. Memory Lane! Penny From Danemead at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 22:23:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:23:00 -0400 Subject: Some more annoying POA Questions... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2629 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Some more annoying POA Questions... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2622] Some more annoying POA Questions... Date: 6/22/00 6:23 pm (ET) >>>>davehoz wrote : Does the full moon also erode his Better Judgement?<<<< There's a charming fanfic called "Cub Scout" by an author called "Moon" that explores the mind of the child Lupin. Of course, we have no way of knowing what Rowling envisions for the thoughts of Lupin, but this fanfic is really well done, I think. Lupin does indeed become as much an "animal" in mind as in body, and it shows the struggle between his human mind and his wolf mind just prior to transformation. Well worth reading. Just go to www.fanfiction.net and do a title search. (If the website is up today, that is! -- they've been having problems.) From triner2001 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 22:30:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:30:00 -0400 Subject: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2630 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Reply To: [Yahoo! #2628] Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Date: 6/22/00 6:30 pm (ET) How to tell if you're between a baby boomer and gen x-er: You remember toe socks. You had rainbow suspenders like Mork from Ork. In your 5th grade school picture you wore an Izod Lacoste shirt with the collar turned up. You spent Friday nights with your pals calling 867-5309 and asking to speak with Jenny. Nothing was weird about Ernie & Bert living together. (Frankly, I still don't) You remember where you were when Reagan was shot and the Challenger exploded. (6th grade, playground, & 11th grade bio, standing over a fetal pig) Just my part of the retro-fest! Trina From Danemead at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 22:32:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:32:00 -0400 Subject: Planning ahead Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2631 From: Danemead Subject: Planning ahead Date: 6/22/00 6:32 pm (ET) Seems obvious that J.K.Rowling has all seven HP books plotted down to the last detail. She is even aware of which books in the series will be the longest, suggesting that they might all already exist in written (draft) form. It's possible that every little detail that we are questioning may have some serious significance further down the road. (I am on another book discussion list where the author has just produced a book that ties up clues that first appeared in books she wrote in 1975!) I'm rather hoping that they will release Books 5, 6, and 7 in a shorter time-frame (say every 6 months). Then JKR would be free to start on an adult HP series if the demand exists. (It does! It does!!) From Danemead at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 22:40:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 18:40:00 -0400 Subject: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2632 From: Danemead Subject: Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Reply To: [Yahoo! #2630] Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Date: 6/22/00 6:40 pm (ET) The Challenger explosion -- I remember thinking how particularly awful that was because so many schoolchildren were watching it live (because civilian teacher Christa McAuliffe was aboard). I was at work, and happened to be passing the cafeteria... A bunch of our engineers were gathered in front of the TVs, and I saw the replay. Our company had communications equipment aboard, so a lot of the employees felt personally involved. A tragic mistake.... From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 23:23:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:23:00 -0400 Subject: Some more annoying POA Questions... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2633 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Some more annoying POA Questions... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2627] Re: Some more annoying POA Questions... Date: 6/22/00 7:23 pm (ET) >>When the boggart turns into the moon, why doesn't Lupin start transforming?<< >Maybe because it isn't truly the moon. It only takes the shape of what turly frightens people.< Ah, but this doesn't quite make sense, here. Why is it that it doesn't make Lupin transform, but it makes Harry hear his mom and dad and Voldemort - and then pass out? You're right, this is an annoying POA question. I'm also puzzled by the Marauder's map question, but have nothing new to say on that point. Re: the behavior of Cho. I'm inclined to think along the same lines as Penny in that I hope that Harry gets his relationship (which I feel is inevitable, given these hints) with her out of the way now so that he can have his *real* one later. However, despite the fact I'm enjoying PoU (yes, I said PoU this time) very much, I still haven't decided if I think he should end up with Hermione. Besides, he shouldn't END UP with anyone yet anyway - much too young. Maybe the last book will make him (almost) old enough. Almost. Maybe. ;) Here's another question: After Fudge meets up with Harry at the Leaky Cauldron and explains that Marge has been punctured and had her memory altered - he says that the Dursleys are willing (though not happy about it) to take Harry back at the end of term. Now.... WHAT could the ministry of magic offered them that would convince them to take this little scoundrel back, after he blew up Marge? ;) I mean, forget Harry not wanting ever to go back with them. That's been discussed. But what in the world would make them willing to accept Harry back into their house? Jen. From Danemead at yahoo.com Thu Jun 22 23:45:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 19:45:00 -0400 Subject: Honorary Doctorate for JKR Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2634 From: Danemead Subject: Honorary Doctorate for JKR Date: 6/22/00 7:45 pm (ET) Creator of 'Harry Potter' receives honorary doctorate The Associated Press ST. ANDREWS, Scotland (June 22, 2000 5:21 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - J.K. Rowling, author of the magical Harry Potter series, received an honorary doctorate Thursday for helping millions of children discover "the pure joy of reading." "Jo Rowling has shown that children's books are still capable of capturing and enchanting an immense audience, irrespective of the competing attractions of television, Nintendo, Gameboy and Pokemon," said spokeswoman Sue Cunningham of the University of St. Andrews, Scotland's oldest university. Rowling's three books about Harry Potter and his classmates at Hogwarts school of wizardry have sold more than 37 million copies worldwide. She was also recently named an Officer of the Order of British Empire. The fourth Harry Potter book is due out July 8; its title and contents have been kept secret. A movie is to start filming this year. From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 00:11:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 20:11:00 -0400 Subject: Reagan and the Challenger Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2635 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Reagan and the Challenger Reply To: [Yahoo! #2630] Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Date: 6/22/00 8:11 pm (ET) <You remember where you were when Reagan was shot and the Challenger exploded. (6th grade, playground, & 11th grade bio, standing over a fetal pig)> I was actually going to mention the Challenger in a future post (it occurred to me on the way home from the DMV). Sounds like you and I are about the same age. Reagan: 7th grade, coming into my first class after lunch (home ec). We spent the entire period watching TV for updates. Challenger: Senior year of high school (2 days after my 18th birthday, in fact). We were in the middle of finals and didn't have access to the news, so I heard about it after the fact--on the radio on the way home from school. OK, to show myself further as a tweener: JOHN Kennedy: Wouldn't be conceived for another three and a half years. ROBERT Kennedy: I don't remember. I was alive, but still in diapers. Martin Luther King Jr: ditto. Melanie From pt4ever at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 01:05:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 21:05:00 -0400 Subject: Lupin & the moon-boggart Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2636 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Lupin & the moon-boggart Reply To: [Yahoo! #2633] Re: Some more annoying POA Questions... Date: 6/22/00 9:05 pm (ET) >>> Ah, but this doesn't quite make sense, here. Why is it that it doesn't make Lupin transform, but it makes Harry hear his mom and dad and Voldemort - and then pass out? You're right, this is an annoying POA question. >>> Perhaps Lupin has learned to "control" his changing by reminding himself that it's not a real moon. Harry's so young that he hasn't yet learned how to make his mind believe that the boggart isn't a real dementor, whereas Lupin's managed to train himself to know that it's not a real moon. Or perhaps several conditions must be in place for Lupin to turn into a werewolf -- i.e., it must be night, it must be a certain time of the month, the correct phases of the moon must have had to precede the full moon, etc. Does that make sense? -- JoAnna From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 02:04:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:04:00 -0400 Subject: Hi! Self-Introduction Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2637 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Hi! Self-Introduction Date: 6/22/00 10:04 pm (ET) Hi, everyone, I just joined your Yahoo club. Having become obsessed with the Harry Potter books, I recently found the harrypotteranonymous e-group, read all the archived messages, and joined it. There I was told about Paradigm of Uncertainty, www.fanfiction.net, and this Harry Potter for grown-ups "club". Now I have finally finished reading all the archived messages on this very active list. All this Harry Potter web activity has led to me staying up all night on several Friday nights, just because I didn't have the willpower to tear myself away from what I was reading. Just like the books! To babble about myself in terms of some of the discussions that I saw in the archive: I'm female, not a parent, not a teacher, not a librarian. There are five cats and three humans living in my apartment -- once there were also two snakes but they died of old age. I'm a COBOL pgmmer -- while I hope to retrofit myself into something more modern and marketable, there is a large and important COBOL / CICS / DLI system that has basically no documentation except inside my head, and it surely will take years to replace it! I did the Meyers-Brigg thing (that typology was invented by Carl Gustav Jung, so why is it called Meyers-Brigg?) 10 or 15 years ago, and was not at all surprised that it said I'm an INXJ (X is half T plus half F). I found that the way to match other people to their types was not to think about each letter separately, but to read the 16 descriptions and let it leap out at me: "Wow, that is absolutely a portrait of Rosalyn!" Melanie's Sorting Hat put me in Ravenclaw (thank you!), which pleased me very much, as I wanted to be in Ravenclaw. I figured that Gryffindor has courage and I'm a coward, Hufflepuff works hard and I'm lazy, Slytherin has getting one's own way as highest priority, and I have other equally high priorities (despite being a Scorpio), and blue is my favorite and second favorite color (1-robin's egg blue called turquoise, 2-royal or electric blue). From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 02:17:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:17:00 -0400 Subject: Houses (was: Prefects Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2638 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Houses (was: Prefects Reply To: [Yahoo! #1571] Re: Prefects Date: 6/22/00 10:17 pm (ET) > Oh, I finally found out that the elusive fourth > house at my school was called 'Stags' > (Gryphons, Lions, Dragons and Stags). > I knew you'd all be thrilled to know that. I mentioned on the harrypotteranonymous list that it had occured to me that the Four Houses of Hogwarts match with the ancient alchemical tradition of Four Elements: Gryffindor - Red - Lion - fire Ravenclaw - Blue - Eagle - air Hufflepuff - Yellow - Badger - earth Slytherin - Green - Snake - water (of course, to me Air is Yellow, Water is Blue, and Earth is Green, but maybe people who don't live in Los Angeles aren't used to air being yellow) And my excuse for mentioning this is that your school's four houses could also be matched to the elements: Gryphons for air because they have wings and fly Lions for fire - probably because the lion is a solar symbol, or maybe just that its mane can easily be drawn to look like flames Dragons for water Stags for earth. From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 02:21:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:21:00 -0400 Subject: Melanie's sorting hat? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2639 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Melanie's sorting hat? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2637] Hi! Self-Introduction Date: 6/22/00 10:21 pm (ET) Hey, more info on this, please? How do I get sorted? From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 02:22:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:22:00 -0400 Subject: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2640 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Reply To: [Yahoo! #1569] Re: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Date: 6/22/00 10:22 pm (ET) >>seven different syllabi and lessons plans for >> seven different levels, four sections each (for >> each of the four houses)[snip] Geeeeezzz!! How >> does she do it guys?" > It's easy if you have a time-turner! I was wondering as I read the book: if a person uses a time turner to make double use of two hours a day, doesn't that mean that they're living through one-twelfth more time per clock day / calendar year than normal, and doesn't that mean that they age one more month than expected in a year?? Maybe one month of extra age isn't enough to notice, but when I thought that Hermione must be double-using maybe six hours a day (for homework and study as well as attending lectures), I thought surely people would notice that she was 'developing' faster than expected. From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 02:28:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:28:00 -0400 Subject: Wands (was: Scabbers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2641 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Wands (was: Scabbers Reply To: [Yahoo! #1757] Scabbers Date: 6/22/00 10:28 pm (ET) > Also, Ron is said to have "Charlie's old wand." > What could be the explanation for Charlie > needing a *new* wand if the old one was just > fine? After we had so carefully been told that the wand must be matched to the wizard, I felt so sorry for Ron being stuck with a wand matched to someone else. I assumed that people use their student wand in school, then get a new wand (or several new wands?) better suited to their new specialty when they go into adult life. So Charlie got a new wand specialised for working with dragons. It's also a little hard on him that he couldn't keep his old wand as a memoir... From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 02:35:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:35:00 -0400 Subject: Melanie's sorting hat? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2642 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Melanie's sorting hat? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2639] Melanie's sorting hat? Date: 6/22/00 10:35 pm (ET) <Hey, more info on this, please? How do I get sorted?> Well, thank you. It's on my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/ravenclawlady Or to go directly to the Sorting Hat: http://www.geocities.com/ravenclawlady/sorting.html The one drawback is that I haven't yet learned the Java to make it self scoring. So, when you take the test, your answers are e-mailed to me, and I hand score it and e-mail your house back to you. I hope you're pleased with the results. Melanie From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 02:35:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:35:00 -0400 Subject: Robes Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2643 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Robes Reply To: [Yahoo! #2056] Robes Date: 6/22/00 10:35 pm (ET) > Do we think they do always wear clothes under > the robes? Sorry -- it's in the 90s here today > (as it is from April - Nov) -- that just seems > really really uncomfortable to me. I muchly wonder how MUCH they wear under their robes: we see Harry putting on a t-shirt to wear under his Quidditch robe, but a t-shirt can be underwear or outerwear. Do they wear boxer shorts or old-fashioned bloomers or regular jeans under their robes? We know that people can wear insane amounts of clothing despite the heat if it's part of their culture: think of Victorian ladies and gentlemen in all those layers in the summer in just about anywhere in USAmerica. However, apparently Brits believe that it never gets hot in the summer in Britain, and whenever a summer temperature goes up to 80F they call it a heat wave and people die from the heat. However, my friend says that they now have bought air conditioners (must be that global warming!) From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 02:51:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:51:00 -0400 Subject: Still Wondering About OBE Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2644 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Still Wondering About OBE Reply To: [Yahoo! #2155] Re: Still Wondering About OBE Date: 6/22/00 10:51 pm (ET) > Not quite a knightship - that would make her > Dame Joanne Rowling... When I was a child, I thought that Knight and Dame were 'Night' and 'Day'. From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 02:54:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:54:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's family Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2645 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Hagrid's family Reply To: [Yahoo! #2246] Re: Hagrid's family Date: 6/22/00 10:54 pm (ET) > Hagrid is a big enigma. He's never actually > graduated from school, but we know that Hogwarts > is only for the best and the brightest of wizard > children, and Hagrid was a student. I don't think we do know that Hogwarts is only for the best and / or the brightest of wizard children. Crabbe and Goyle surely aren't the brightest! And Draco doesn't seem to be the best at anything except being snotty. From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 02:58:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 22:58:00 -0400 Subject: Another pointless question.... :) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2646 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Another pointless question.... :) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2309] Another pointless question.... :) Date: 6/22/00 10:58 pm (ET) > Poor Weasleys -- imagine trying to pay for five > children's tuitions & supplies at once. I think I recall that when Harry went to Diagon Alley with the Weaseleys to buy school supplies, he saw that there were no coins left in the Weaseleys' vault at Gringotts. Raising seven children might well explain their poverty -- and maybe Mr. Weaseley's job at the Ministry of Magic doesn't pay anything worth mentioning because the MoM expects that no one would take a Civil Service job unless they had a private income. From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 03:02:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:02:00 -0400 Subject: Mugwump... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2647 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Mugwump... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2584] Mugwump... Date: 6/22/00 11:02 pm (ET) > Note for UK members: London's new Mayor, Ken > Livingstone, is clearly a Mugwump of the highest > order, and, if he can sort out the London > Underground, he'll be declared a Magician too. It is Tony Blair, not Ken Livingstone, who is a Mugwump: "he has his mug on one side of the fence, and his wump on the other side". IE a centrist. As a child, I was told that the 19th century political cartoon with the caption I just quoted was the origin of the word "mugwump", but more recently I was told that the cartoonist was mocking a political secret society called The Indian Lodge of Chief Mugwump. From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 03:07:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:07:00 -0400 Subject: Reading in a Dream (was: Mugwump... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2648 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Reading in a Dream (was: Mugwump... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2613] Re: Mugwump... Date: 6/22/00 11:07 pm (ET) > Has anyone ever caught themselves READING during a dream? When I was a child, I had an eight volume history of the world (title: PICTORIAL TALE OF PROGRESS) that I *loved*. One night I dreamed that I was reading the section on the American Revolution, I was reading about John Paul Jones, and there was a detailed description of how his original name was John Paul and he added the Jones when he ran away to sea, as an alias because the reason he ran away was that he had just killed a man in a drunken brawl. For *years* afterwards, I would leaf through that volume trying unsuccessfully to find that chapteru! From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 03:12:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:12:00 -0400 Subject: OT -You're a REALLY old grown-up whe Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2649 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: OT -You're a REALLY old grown-up whe Reply To: [Yahoo! #2618] OT -You're a REALLY old grown-up when... Date: 6/22/00 11:12 pm (ET) > You know you're an Ancient One if you remember > where you were when you heard that (USA) > President Kennedy had been shot. [November 1963] I was in first grade and during lunch I noticed that the flags were at half-mast. I started asking people why, and finally a big grown-up sixth grader told me it was because the President had been assassinated. I knew what is "President", but I had to ask what is "assassinated". I was 10 years old and watching (on TV) the California Democrat victory party at Ambassador Hotel when RFK was assassinated. My mother had let me stay up late to watch because I had stuffed envelopes and rung doorbells for him ... I'm a hereditary Dem. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 03:36:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:36:00 -0400 Subject: Time-turner/heat/various Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2650 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Time-turner/heat/various Reply To: [Yahoo! #2640] Re: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Date: 6/22/00 11:36 pm (ET) "I thought surely people would notice that she was 'developing' faster than expected." [Hermione and time-turning] Welcome Catlady! I like your name and your persistence with the message board. Also, I thought I would respond to your time-turner comment, since you're reminding us of past messages! ** Re Hermione, I assume that people travelling back in time enter some sort of stasis when it comes to their growth. They can only resume 'natural' development when they return to their own time. ** You also mentioned Brits and air-conditioning, which made me laugh. I spent most of yesterday morning wrestling with a portable air-conditioner that looks like a dalek and amusing my secretary with the rather phallic-looking exhaust pipe. I have to stick the exhaust pipe out of the open window, because my office is a Listed Room and I'm not allowed to cut a hole in the window pane. So much for technology. Give me magic any day. ** I enjoyed your comments about "Knight and Dame" and the Tony Blair quote. Neil From christineoswell at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 03:39:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:39:00 -0400 Subject: HP #4 (CoF?) Canadian Stats Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2651 From: christineoswell Subject: HP #4 (CoF?) Canadian Stats Date: 6/22/00 11:39 pm (ET) Here are a few stats that I read in today's paper. The publishing company (Raincoast) that is doing the printing of HP #4 is based here in Vancouver, but the books are apparently being printed in Winnipeg. They are still calling it the Doomspell Tournament (just think of all those kids going to get *that* book, and finding out it doesn't exist!). They are printing 300 000 copies on the first run, 225 000 of which are already spoken for. Normally a first print run of 5 000 books is considered substantial.... They say it is approx 650 pages. Christine From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 03:47:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:47:00 -0400 Subject: Marauder's Map Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2652 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Marauder's Map Date: 6/22/00 11:47 pm (ET) Okay, this was puzzling, but I think I assumed that when Snape referred to Harry getting the map from the "manufacturers", he was commenting on the fact that Harry had sneaked down the secret tunnel to Hogsmeade, where he could have purchased a magic map from one of the shops. Perhaps I'm off the beam though - I've only read PoA once so far and I still have my 'L' plates on. Neil From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 03:55:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:55:00 -0400 Subject: book 4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2653 From: joywitch999 Subject: book 4 Date: 6/22/00 11:55 pm (ET) I heard that the shipments of book 4 are supposed to start arriving at bookstores in the U.S. tomorrow (Friday 6/23) but that they are not allowed to sell them until 7/8. Hmmm......if they are not allowed to sell them....maybe they could be persuaded to rent them? From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 03:58:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:58:00 -0400 Subject: Chrestomanci again (sorry) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2654 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Chrestomanci again (sorry) Date: 6/22/00 11:58 pm (ET) I couldn't resist starting another Diana Wynne Jones book, so I'm reading "The Lives of Christopher Chant" now. To clarify Polgara's earlier response, "The Lives..." is a prequel to the other books, concerning the childhood of Christopher Chant, when he first discovers he is a powerful enchanter and has inherited the role of Chrestomanci. It was the fourth of the series to be published. "Charmed Life" is the first book in the series, then comes "The Magicians of Caprona" and, finally, "Witch Week". "Mixed Magics" appears to be the latest in the series. I have it on order (not from Amazon.co.uk!). The books are related only by the appearance of Chrestomanci; they are otherwise unrelated and have different characters, as they concern alternative worlds. Neil Diana Wynne Jones for Grown Ups (only kidding) From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 04:03:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:03:00 -0400 Subject: Kennedy...and teddy Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2655 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Kennedy...and teddy Date: 6/23/00 12:03 am (ET) I may have picked up on the Kennedy shooting; I was 2-and-half at the time. In truth, I was probably more interested in covering teddy in Mummy's lipstick. How I miss childhood (perhaps that's why I love these books so much). Neil From nicolas_flamel at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 04:48:00 2000 From: nicolas_flamel at yahoo.com (nicolas_flamel) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 00:48:00 -0400 Subject: Comming out of the Closet Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2656 From: nicolas_flamel Subject: Comming out of the Closet Date: 6/23/00 12:48 am (ET) Hullo there! I am new to the club and have finally decided to come out as a full fledge Potter Maniac! I bought book 1 in the begining of June and I am on my second round of all three books. I live and work in Tokyo and have gotten into the habit of putting a cover around the books so that all the eyes on the train cant see what I am reading. NOT ANYMORE! I'm comming out of the closet! Thanks HPAA! PS- Anyone hear any news on the movie casting? From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 07:31:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 03:31:00 -0400 Subject: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2657 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Reply To: [Yahoo! #2632] Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Date: 6/23/00 3:31 am (ET) The Challanger explosion is definately the "Kennedy assasination" of our generation. As for me, I remember our principal announced it over the intercom as we were still way too low tech to have TV's for classrooms in the little town I was from at the time. I thought it was a horrible joke or something because I couldn't imagine that anything could go wrong with the U.S. of A.'s perfection. A harsh lesson in reality that was. It's a damn shame the space program has never fully recovered from that. We used to have a wonderful dream up there, now it's scraping for dollars and wondering why our cheaply made projects go boom when they get to their goal... Jarnor23 From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 07:41:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 03:41:00 -0400 Subject: By gum... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2658 From: Jarnor23 Subject: By gum... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2652] Re: Marauder's Map Date: 6/23/00 3:41 am (ET) I think he's got it. That's exactly what I thought too when I first read it, in retrospect. I think it just might be right. After all, it would be a good reason for Snape to bust Harry, which is what he really wanted... Jarnor23 From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 07:43:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 03:43:00 -0400 Subject: Kennedy...and teddy Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2659 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Re: Kennedy...and teddy Reply To: [Yahoo! #2655] Kennedy...and teddy Date: 6/23/00 3:43 am (ET) My mother certainly remembers the day Kennedy was shot. It was her birthday. Bet that was one hell of a birthday. :/ Jarnor23 From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 08:37:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:37:00 -0400 Subject: Some more annoying POA Questions... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2660 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Some more annoying POA Questions... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2627] Re: Some more annoying POA Questions... Date: 6/23/00 4:37 am (ET) "Call me a linear thinker, but I just assumed she knew there was no way her Comet could match his Firebolt so she was simply riding his coattails. I've noticed that the other seekers tend to follow Harry as well." This to me seems the most stupid idea if you are have the slower broom. You would need to make sure you were directly in front of the person with the faster broom so that they had to go a long way round to get to the snitch. Or you would have to be searching for it away from Harry. Simon (Quidditch coach mode!) From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 08:41:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:41:00 -0400 Subject: Harry and Hermione Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2661 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry and Hermione Reply To: [Yahoo! #2633] Re: Some more annoying POA Questions... Date: 6/23/00 4:41 am (ET) "However, despite the fact I'm enjoying PoU (yes, I said PoU this time) very much, I still haven't decided if I think he should end up with Hermione. Besides, he shouldn't END UP with anyone yet anyway - much too young. Maybe the last book will make him (almost) old enough. Almost. Maybe. ;)" I have read PoU as well and the H&H romance works well there but it works well only because of the very important detail of Ron being dead. I see it as more likely that Ron and Hermione would get together long term. I do agree with the point about not being old enough. I still do not think he will be in the seventh book. He will be 17 then. I cannot think of any of my friends who were in 'couples' at 17 that are still together. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 08:43:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:43:00 -0400 Subject: Some more annoying POA Questions... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2662 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Some more annoying POA Questions... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2633] Re: Some more annoying POA Questions... Date: 6/23/00 4:43 am (ET) Apologies that this wasn't on the previos e-mail. Lack of concentration on my part! "Here's another question: After Fudge meets up with Harry at the Leaky Cauldron and explains that Marge has been punctured and had her memory altered - he says that the Dursleys are willing (though not happy about it) to take Harry back at the end of term. Now.... WHAT could the ministry of magic offered them that would convince them to take this little scoundrel back, after he blew up Marge? ;) I mean, forget Harry not wanting ever to go back with them. That's been discussed. But what in the world would make them willing to accept Harry back into their house?" A decent memory charm to make them change their mind to be kinder towards Harry. Maybe the Ministry also did a good job and they will be kinder towards Harry in the next book! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 08:47:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:47:00 -0400 Subject: Hot temperatures Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2663 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Hot temperatures Reply To: [Yahoo! #2643] Re: Robes Date: 6/23/00 4:47 am (ET) "However, apparently Brits believe that it never gets hot in the summer in Britain, and whenever a summer temperature goes up to 80F they call it a heat wave and people die from the heat." It does get hot here, sometimes! I call a heat wave temperaturs above 100F. This is what we nearly got for a few days at the end of last week beginning of this. And more annoyingly that was when I was having to where a dark suit for my exams. At the end of the day it is big changes in temperature that affect people. We have gone from 60F to 90F and back to 60F as maximum daily temperatures inside of one week! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 08:49:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:49:00 -0400 Subject: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2664 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2640] Re: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Date: 6/23/00 4:49 am (ET) "I was wondering as I read the book: if a person uses a time turner to make double use of two hours a day, doesn't that mean that they're living through one-twelfth more time per clock day / calendar year than normal, and doesn't that mean that they age one more month than expected in a year?? Maybe one month of extra age isn't enough to notice, but when I thought that Hermione must be double-using maybe six hours a day (for homework and study as well as attending lectures), I thought surely people would notice that she was 'developing' faster than expected." She is in that age where developement happens most quickly anyway, so I doubt anything would have been noticed. People would have just thought she was a quick developer. It does, however, explain why she was always so hungry! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 08:59:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 04:59:00 -0400 Subject: Planning ahead Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2665 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Planning ahead Reply To: [Yahoo! #2631] Planning ahead Date: 6/23/00 4:59 am (ET) "Seems obvious that J.K.Rowling has all seven HP books plotted down to the last detail. She is even aware of which books in the series will be the longest, suggesting that they might all already exist in written (draft) form. It's possible that every little detail that we are questioning may have some serious significance further down the road." >From reading a couple of JKR intervies I get the impression that she has rough plot outlines for books 5 and 6 but a very detailed one, if not a rough draft, of book 7. To my mind JKR seems very organised as to putting details in the earlier books that become relevant only later - such as Sirius being mentioned in book 1. I believe she has given a hint that something that happened, or was mentioned, in book one will be important to book 4 but that we will also notice the reference very quickly. I will still however speculate on the plot of future books as it is amusing to see what othr peoples opinions are, and how you all think the books will go. "I'm rather hoping that they will release Books 5, 6, and 7 in a shorter time-frame (say every 6 months). Then JKR would be free to start on an adult HP series if the demand exists. (It does! It does!!)" I cannot see this happening - books being realsed any earlier that is. JKR will be very busy with book signing and visiting various places. Also I am sure that takes a year between books makes the hype much larger when the next one comes around. Simon From lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 13:06:00 2000 From: lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com (lady_emerlyn) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:06:00 -0400 Subject: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2666 From: lady_emerlyn Subject: Re: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2664] Re: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Date: 6/23/00 9:06 am (ET) If magic can make one double use an hour (and thank you very much for blowing that mystery for me as I am only half way through the third installment ;) ) then magic can ensure the fact that you don't age before your time,(how I wish that I had one for my classes.) Beyond that in the witchy-world in which I live age does not mean what it does here it means wisdom and respect and if Hermione can get a little extra respect from the group of 13 year old boys that she hangs out with then blessed be. From lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 13:13:00 2000 From: lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com (lady_emerlyn) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:13:00 -0400 Subject: HP for the Blind Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2667 From: lady_emerlyn Subject: HP for the Blind Date: 6/23/00 9:13 am (ET) I don't know if the rest of you have heard... The National Braille Press in Boston is rushing to get HP IV- out to the blind just weeks after the print release instead of making the blind wait several months. I'm so excited that so many more children will get to enjoy this as much as I have. Jess From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 13:20:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:20:00 -0400 Subject: Planning Ahead Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2668 From: plinsenmayer Subject: RE: Planning Ahead Date: 6/23/00 9:20 am (ET) Hi: <I'm rather hoping that they will release Books 5, 6, and 7 in a shorter time-frame (say every 6 months). Then JKR would be free to start on an adult HP series if the demand exists. (It does! It does!!)> While I don't think there's any realistic way to speed up the release dates of Books 5-7, I do hope you're right about an adult HP series! <vbg> Penny From lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 13:22:00 2000 From: lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com (lady_emerlyn) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:22:00 -0400 Subject: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2669 From: lady_emerlyn Subject: Re: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Reply To: [Yahoo! #2568] Re: Okay, time to lighten things up a bi Date: 6/23/00 9:22 am (ET) Melanie you are missing a few--- or perhaps this is my age showing.... - MTV was just a little video network - Jaws was considered scary, even when they rereleased it. - HE-man before She-ra - Autobots and Decepticons - The first GI Joe cartoon where body parts could be seen after explosions - Olley North (in real life he's a nice guy) not being able to remember a thing. I remember all of the things on your list except seeing the original Star Wars, I had just been concieved, and well the Watergate thing. Jess From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 13:28:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:28:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2670 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/23/00 9:28 am (ET) Hi: <Besides, he shouldn't END UP with anyone yet anyway - much too young. Maybe the last book will make him (almost) old enough. Almost. Maybe.> I agree that it's pointless to debate his eventual love life in the context of the canon. Even at 17/18 in Book 7, he really probably won't be (shouldn't be!) dating his life-long mate. But, that's what makes PoU so enjoyable to me -- he's 26 in that fanfic and definitely eligible to meet his Ms. Right (Hermione! Hermione!). <g> As for Ron -- have to disagree with you Simon (although maybe the PoU list is the better place to have this debate). I can see Ron & Hermione dating at Hogwarts and being a good young love -- but Hermione realizes in PoU that they'd have gone their own way eventually. Well, enough of that here. We can take up the debate on PoU at some point -- <g> But, even at Hogwarts -- Ron definitely shows signs of having a crush of sorts on Hermione so far. But, I'd be more inclined to say she has feelings for Harry, not Ron. Could be as I've speculated before -- an interesting triangle! Penny From golden_faile at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 13:29:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:29:00 -0400 Subject: We had the same childhood......... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2671 From: golden_faile Subject: We had the same childhood......... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2628] Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Date: 6/23/00 9:29 am (ET) Yes, we did, how funny! I remember Leif,Shaun,etc. I am slightly younger than you,I am 31. I however, don't remember when Kennedy was shot(a little before my time)! I remember the challenger,Reagan being shot(Boy,when he was elected by the way my parents talked I thought he was the Anti-Christ)!I remember when John Lennon was shot, and being very sad about this. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 13:30:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:30:00 -0400 Subject: NY Times Address for Letter re: Bestsell Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2672 From: plinsenmayer Subject: NY Times Address for Letter re: Bestsell Date: 6/23/00 9:30 am (ET) Hi: If you're interested in sending a letter to the NY Times re: their pending decision re: a separate children's bestseller list (see my messages on Tues), here's where you can send it: New York Times Book Review Editor 229 West 43rd Street New York, NY 10036 Penny From lilly_potter at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 13:55:00 2000 From: lilly_potter at yahoo.com (lilly_potter) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:55:00 -0400 Subject: Not getting messages. Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2673 From: lilly_potter Subject: Not getting messages. Date: 6/23/00 9:55 am (ET) Hi I havent goten a message after 2579, has there been mesages I have missed. Christina From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 13:57:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 09:57:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2674 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry's Love Life Reply To: [Yahoo! #2670] Harry's Love Life Date: 6/23/00 9:57 am (ET) Please note - this may conatin spoilers for book 3. Apologies to lasy_emerlyn (Jess?) for any spoilers that I may have inadvertently forgotten to warn people about in any of my previos posts. "As for Ron -- have to disagree with you Simon (although maybe the PoU list is the better place to have this debate). I can see Ron & Hermione dating at Hogwarts and being a good young love -- but Hermione realizes in PoU that they'd have gone their own way eventually. Well, enough of that here. We can take up the debate on PoU at some point" At the moment I am not reading the messages on that group - just the fanfic. I do not think I have enough time to read the PoU message board as well. "But, even at Hogwarts -- Ron definitely shows signs of having a crush of sorts on Hermione so far. But, I'd be more inclined to say she has feelings for Harry, not Ron. Could be as I've speculated before -- an interesting triangle!" I have read this the other way around. I think that Hermione has feeling for Ron. She may have some sort of 'he is famous' crush on Harry but I do not think it is anything more than this. Rather similar but not as obvious as the one Ginny seems to have on Harry. However I admit that I am reading this from the male point of view, so I could be totally wrong! As for the love triangle... This would break the group up again, as happened in PoA (but for rather different reasons). The first book has the ending with all three of them being involved but the second and third books have the endings with only two of them involved. Does this mean we will be back to all three in the next book? Simon From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 15:27:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:27:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter cartoons Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2675 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: Harry Potter cartoons Reply To: [Yahoo! #2574] re: CoS dust jacket & cartoons Date: 6/23/00 11:27 am (ET) As a huge fan of Saturday morning cartoons in my day...who can forget Smurfs, Schoolhouse Rock, Thundar the Barbarian, or Dungeons and Dragons? As for the Harry Potter cartoon...my personal feeling is that it couldn't be about Harry...or at least, it couldn't just re-tell the stories of the books...the movies will do that. The cartoon would have to: 1. Take place in the Harry Potter universe (at Hogwarts, different characters, same facts and some overlapping players...sorta like Star Trek Deep Space 9 was to Next Generation...same world, different players). 2. Pick up the thread where the books leave off after year 7. Of course...we would have to wait until this book was published before doing so. 3. Harry Potter cartoon "prequel" ala Star Wars Episode one. Again, same universe, same facts, same rules, just before the story we know. That's just my two knuts. Hagrid http://www.hagridshut.com From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 15:29:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:29:00 -0400 Subject: Illustrations Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2676 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: Re: Illustrations Reply To: [Yahoo! #2579] Re: Illustrations Date: 6/23/00 11:29 am (ET) I have to agree with this sentiment. Same reason why I have so avidly avoided spoilers, or alleged "rumors"...when I read the 4th book, I want it to be fresh, exciting, and a surprise from page to page. As it is, every time I turn the page I am going to be wondering "is this the page where someone dies?" That's going to hang over me the entire book! Argh! - Hagrid http://www.hagridshut.com From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 15:34:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:34:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2677 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Harry's Love Life Reply To: [Yahoo! #2674] Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/23/00 11:34 am (ET) Hi: <I have read this the other way around. I think that Hermione has feeling for Ron. She may have some sort of 'he is famous' crush on Harry but I do not think it is anything more than this.> Ah, maybe it is the difference in our genders then. I would point to the following in support of my argument (that she has feelings perhaps for Harry): (1) in Stone -- she throws her arms around Harry right before they drink the potions (not much in the way of evidence but they are only 11 and spontaneous hugs of friends of the opposite sex might be said to be more meaningful -- <g>) (2) Not much I can think of in CoS other than that her letter to Ron and Harry at the Burrow is mostly wondering about Harry (3) PoA - much stronger evidence. Her birthday gift to Harry speaks volumes (IMO) -- Harry correctly observes that her instinct would be to buy him a book. But, instead, she clearly put alot of thought into what *he* would most enjoy, and it appears to have been a rather pricey gift at that. And, she signs the card "love from Hermione" (yes, I know she signs her letter to Ron & Harry in CoS the same way). Oh, and Hedwig went to Hermione rather than to Ron (maybe this was because Hermione didn't have an owl and Hedwig knew Errol might be somewhat up for delivering a gift?). Perhaps it's all weak evidence and/or all attributable to my gender. But, it was my feeling *prior to* PoU in any case. <g> <Rather similar but not as obvious as the one Ginny seems to have on Harry.> I think Ginny's crush on Harry is completely obvious to everyone. Whatever Hermione's feelings are (and for whom) is much more of a mystery (considerably more subtlety there). <The first book has the ending with all three of them being involved but the second and third books have the endings with only two of them involved. Does this mean we will be back to all three in the next book?> Book 1 -- Ron falls off first, then Hermione Book 2 -- Hermione falls off very early, then Ron Book 3 -- Ron falls off first, Hermione is more or less there through all of it (Harry is "on his own" for a relatively brief period of time) In any case, I think Hermione's strong role in the final action in Books 1 & 3 strongly undercuts the argument that JKR has created a male-based environment that lacks strong female characters. Penny From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 15:39:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 11:39:00 -0400 Subject: Illustrations Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2678 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Re: Illustrations Reply To: [Yahoo! #2676] Re: Illustrations Date: 6/23/00 11:39 am (ET) <As it is, every time I turn the page I am going to be wondering "is this the page where someone dies?" That's going to hang over me the entire book!> As much as I love reading and speculating on rumors, you do have a point there. When I actually hold book 4 in my hands, I may even be tempted to skim ahead, just to get that over with. But then, when I go back to where I'm "supposed" to be in the book, knowing *who*, I'll spend the rest of the time seeing that person (or those people) through black creped glasses! As it is, I may even see George Weasley that way. Melanie From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 16:09:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:09:00 -0400 Subject: New Book [SPOILER] Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2679 From: Carlsson79 Subject: New Book [SPOILER] Date: 6/23/00 12:09 pm (ET) This is the standard two lines of crap so noone gets annoyed by me telling you a bit about the book. Harry Ron and Hermione apparently go on dates, They go to a Quidditch World cup, and we meet a cousin of Ron Weasley. Also - Harry has to fight a fire breathing Dragon. Sounds like fun Nicholas From Danemead at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 16:33:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:33:00 -0400 Subject: Parodies Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2680 From: Danemead Subject: Parodies Date: 6/23/00 12:33 pm (ET) Anyone up to creating a parody? There's this site that carries Gilbert & Sullivan song parodies from "The Pirates of Penzance" including take-offs on the song "I Am The Very Model of a Modern Major General". I've got the first line: "I Am The Very Model of an Adult Harry Potter Fan" but I think I need mass quantities of pharmaceuticals to create inspiring lyrics beyond that. Here's the address in case anyone's mind is warped in that direction: http://www.ology.org/eschat/parody/piratesidx.html From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 16:36:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:36:00 -0400 Subject: Planning ahead Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2681 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: Planning ahead Reply To: [Yahoo! #2631] Planning ahead Date: 6/23/00 12:36 pm (ET) the next books are going to be released one a year. this is so harry is always the right age (a yaer younger than me). Or that's what I've heard anyway...(yeah, don't ever legally need to go to school again!!!!!!) From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 16:41:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:41:00 -0400 Subject: Covers from around the world Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2682 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Covers from around the world Reply To: [Yahoo! #2543] Re: Canadian & British Date: 6/23/00 12:41 pm (ET) I have collected covers for Harry Potter books from around the world. In my opinion, the American covers are about as good as they come. There are two series of British covers: One are colorful and capture a scene from the book. Philosopher's Stone shows a cartoon Harry on Platform 9 3/4. (The less colorful cover has a black and white train.) Clear winner the American cover. Chamber of Secrets the British Cover shows Ron and Harry in the flying car. You could argue that the American cover gives away the ending but I didn't realize it did until I got there. (The less colorful British cover has a black and white of an old car in some clouds.) The American cover is the better cover. Prisoner of Azkaban - The American and British covers are very similar with both of them choosing to show Harry and Hermione on the Hippogriff. For this cover, I prefer the British version. The French covers are uniformly of low artistic quality. The German ones are interesting. But to be perfectly honest, the ones I like best are the ones from the Scandanavian countries. I'm putting some of my collection in the photo album. From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 16:43:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:43:00 -0400 Subject: Chrestomanci again (sorry) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2683 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: Chrestomanci again (sorry) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2654] Chrestomanci again (sorry) Date: 6/23/00 12:43 pm (ET) yeah, I know that she wrote nine lives.... afeter charmed life but chronologically (ok, sorry about the spelling) Nine lives.... is first From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 16:49:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 12:49:00 -0400 Subject: Cast the movie! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2684 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: Cast the movie! Date: 6/23/00 12:49 pm (ET) I have been diligently working on a page in my site in which I choose actors for the movie, and people provide feedback. The really nice part is that I include pictures of the actors so people have a visual representation of who I am talking about. I would love your input and comments! http://www.hagridshut.com From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 17:12:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:12:00 -0400 Subject: New Book [SPOILER] Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2685 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: New Book [SPOILER] Reply To: [Yahoo! #2679] New Book [SPOILER] Date: 6/23/00 1:12 pm (ET) I know we've beaten this topic to death but I think the alledged Book IV cover - see the photo album - was custom created for this book. It has at least one new character, Icicle, who some rumor mills say is a Weasley cousin. If, as Nicholas says, Harry also fights a dragon then the unidentified thing in front would be a dragon and the thing Harry is holding is a Dragon Egg. I like the theory that the shifty eyed man is Snape and I still hold that the young man behind Harry and to the right is someone we don't really know well... or at least haven't seen pictured. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 17:22:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:22:00 -0400 Subject: Hagrid's family Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2686 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Hagrid's family Reply To: [Yahoo! #2645] Re: Hagrid's family Date: 6/23/00 1:22 pm (ET) >>> I don't think we do know that Hogwarts is only for the best and / or the brightest of wizard children. Crabbe and Goyle surely aren't the brightest! And Draco doesn't seem to be the best at anything except being snotty. >>> First off -- welcome, catlady! :) Draco could very well be the best Potions student (other than Hermione) in the class, considering how Snape favors him. And who knows, maybe he's actually good at it! As for Crabbe and Goyle -- my guess is they were admitted because they come from a long line of wizards and witches who attended Hogwarts, and it was family influence that got them in. Or maybe Dumbledore felt sorry for them and let them come even though both seem to have a lower I.Q. than a brick wall. *shrug* Who knows? -- JoAnna From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 17:33:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:33:00 -0400 Subject: Oh my! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2687 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Oh my! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2682] Covers from around the world Date: 6/23/00 1:33 pm (ET) Some of these are interesting, some really beautiful, and some... er... well, some of them pretty much suck. :) A few comments... Finland PoA - is it just me or does it look like Harry and Hermione are necking? Must be the small picture. :) French versions - kind of remind me of art from the early years AD, such as you'll find on REALLY old church things. Swedish - very colorful, a more "realistic" look than I'm used to for Harry. Iceland - it's a Thriller, chiller night! Man, I've seen more excitement on the faces of government workers than that! This is supposed to be Harry going off to Hogwarts away from the Dursleys? Japan - fancy, different, but a bit too dark for the subject matter of the first book, IMHO Denmark PoA - very beautiful, I am quite fond of this one Italy - what's up the mouse hat and little chessmen? Interesting that they actually spelled out Joanne's first name instead of using J. Finland - AAAACK! Man, if this is what people look like in Finland, I'm not going there! :) Germany - Harry Potter, professional badass. Who's the man who'll look out for his brotha wizards? Harry! You damn right! Just my reflections on these covers. Not to be confused with a post of any importance. :) Jarnor23 From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 17:44:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:44:00 -0400 Subject: New Book [SPOILER] Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2688 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: New Book [SPOILER] Reply To: [Yahoo! #2685] Re: New Book [SPOILER] Date: 6/23/00 1:44 pm (ET) May I say my spoiler was in good authority. It was said on Blue Peter - a childrens television programme on BBC television here in the UK. They actually SAID these are some of the things we will see. And they normally like to get breaking news like this, for us kids. If I'm wrong - I'll swallow my hat - and I feel quite safe, as I don't have a hat. Nicholas PS. Can't wait to see a Quiditch match. I bet Harry is somehow spotted. From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 17:55:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 13:55:00 -0400 Subject: Covers from around the world Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2689 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Covers from around the world Reply To: [Yahoo! #2682] Covers from around the world Date: 6/23/00 1:55 pm (ET) Thanks for posting the covers. Is it my imagination, or does the Italian Phil./Sor. Stone cover seem to have giant rats all over it, including one that looks like it is growing out of Harrys head? I agree with you that the French covers are pretty bad artistically, but I do like the way they portray Harry & co. They look much more like the way I imagine them to be -- like the way little kids dressed up as witches for Halloween look, with big pointy hats and oversized robes. From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 18:11:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:11:00 -0400 Subject: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2690 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2666] Re: Work load: How does Minerva do it??? Date: 6/23/00 2:11 pm (ET) > (and thank you very much for blowing that > mystery for me as I am only half way through > the third installment ;) I am So Sorry! I grovel! From lilly_potter at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 18:11:00 2000 From: lilly_potter at yahoo.com (lilly_potter) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:11:00 -0400 Subject: book 4 cover Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2691 From: lilly_potter Subject: book 4 cover Date: 6/23/00 2:11 pm (ET) Hi I found this but of corse I dont know if its real or not. http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/newsroom/230600potter.shtml From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 18:27:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:27:00 -0400 Subject: book 4 cover Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2692 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: book 4 cover Reply To: [Yahoo! #2691] book 4 cover Date: 6/23/00 2:27 pm (ET) Spoiler etc.......................................................... Cripes - it looks like 'The Return of Godzilla'! I'm dead suspicious though, because it doesn't feature any of the main characters... They probably knocked it up because of the comment about a dragon featuring in the story. Neil From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 18:52:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 14:52:00 -0400 Subject: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2693 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Reply To: [Yahoo! #2657] Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Date: 6/23/00 2:52 pm (ET) > It's a damn shame the space program has never > fully recovered from that. We used to have a > wonderful dream up there, now it's scraping for > dollars and wondering why our cheaply made > projects go boom when they get to their goal... I suppose if I wanted to be on topic, I would say that the only space program the wizard folk care about is when they fly beyond the atmosphere on their brooms, or Apparate (help! I need more info on Apparating!) to the moon.... (as shown in one of the SO YOU WANT TO BE WIZARD? children's novels) The first 'faster, cheaper' mission indeed was also 'better' -- the Mars mission that bounced to a successful landing on Fourth of July and had the whole USA watching a two-foot-tall robot geologist on TV, remember? That was *much* more exciting that anything about the shuttle. Like the old-time science fiction story series VENUS EQUILATERAL, it shows what engineers and dreamers can do when the military officers and bureaucrats get off their backs!!! From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 19:13:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 15:13:00 -0400 Subject: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2694 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2661] Re: Harry and Hermione Date: 6/23/00 3:13 pm (ET) > I do agree with the point about not being old > enough. [snip] I cannot think of any of my > friends who were in 'couples' at 17 that are > still together. In the Muggle world: My goddaughter's parents met in high school (before I met them), they couldn't have been more than 16 when they got together -- they married at 19 (would have waited longer but my goddaughter was on the way) -- they've still together, with 10 year old daughter and 6 year old twin boys. In the wizard world: it seems to be me that wizard folk marry and have children awfully young -- James and Lily seem to me to have been awfully young to have Harry. Maybe wizard folk just grow up fast (and then age slowly and live to an average age of 100 instead of Muggle 75): the HP e-mail-lists have led me to some transcipts of JKR interviews, in one of which she says it just seemed to her that 17 was a good age for wizards to come of age, and maybe she meant 'be grown-up' not just 'have legal rights'. And in another transcript she said firmly "There is no University for wizards". That shocked and horrified me (I digress) because Wizards *must* have university: after all, wizard (wyz - ard) *means* "wise person". They wouldn't need the modern kind of university, a mass-production factory that uses assembly-line methods to put its goals: 1) turning 18 year olds into 21 year olds, 2) issuing the Bachelor's Degrees that are one's ticket in the lottery for a good job, 3) separating winners (who get top grades at top colleges and/or make friends with lots of offspring of important people and lots of people who will be important themselves someday) from losers, 4) training people in job skills, 5) injecting certain standardized knowledge into each person, which will be forgotten over the course of adult life. They need universities in the traditional sense, where people who love scholarship more than wealth study and learn together even if they have to live in a a garret. > I have read PoU as well and the H&H romance > works well there but it works well only because > of the very important detail of Ron being dead. > I see it as more likely that Ron and Hermione > would get together long term. It is not impossible that Harry and Ron will get married and Hermione will be the maid of honor.... It is not impossible that all three will join in a triad marriage -- I have known threesomes that lasted much longer than many twosomes I've known. I have a suspicion that the reason that JKR is so *certain* that she won't write any book about what happens to Harry after Hogwart's is that she plans for him to die in the seventh book. Die fighting Voldemort. It is a very dramatic fight and it is a metaphysical necessity that Harry has to die in order to kill Voldemort (because Dumbledore said that Voldemort can't really die because he isn't really alive, so Harry has to give him life in order to kill him). DON'T CRY! Maybe JKR can make it a heartwarming happy ending: I only saw one episode of The Charmed, but it was the episode in which the sisters gave a Chinese-American ghost and enable his mother to give him a proper funeral, at which the ghost happily runs off to join his late father and the two fade into the spirit world together. We could have a vision of Harry being re-united with James and Lily -- if (god forbid!) Sirius and Remus had died in the meantime, all five could be together. From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 19:47:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 15:47:00 -0400 Subject: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2695 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Reply To: [Yahoo! #2693] Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Date: 6/23/00 3:47 pm (ET) Well, the first mission was a success, but later ones have shown what inadaquate funding and a rushed timescale bring. Besides, we could have personally visited the planet by now if we were spending the money on advancing the space program instead of buying more weapons to kill people with. Of course, wizards probably have tea on Mars for giggles. :) Jarnor23 From triner2001 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 19:51:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 15:51:00 -0400 Subject: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2696 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Reply To: [Yahoo! #2695] Re: More with the lists of 70's and 80's Date: 6/23/00 3:51 pm (ET) >>Of course, wizards probably have tea on Mars for giggles.<< On the ABC show _Sabrina the Teenage Witch_ she does go skiing on Mars, so perhaps you're on to something. ;-) Trina From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 21:18:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:18:00 -0400 Subject: Covers from around the world Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2697 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Covers from around the world Reply To: [Yahoo! #2682] Covers from around the world Date: 6/23/00 5:18 pm (ET) "(The less colorful British cover has a black and white of an old car in some clouds.)" I guess I should feel personally insulted by that mention of "an old car"! Thanks for posting all those covers. I agree with you that the US covers (and Mary GrandPre's incidental artwork) are lovely - apart from Prisoner of Azkaban, which makes Buckbeak look far too lumpen. I'm not keen on the UK covers (note - the black and white ones are the 'adult' issue covers - I find them quite sinister). The CoS cover shows Harry and Ron as too round-faced, when both are skinny and almost certainly thin-faced. I remember posting something ages ago about the Finnish covers, which feature what could politely be described as caricatures (and otherwise as something unrepeatable!). The Icelandic Philosopher's Stone is, though, the pits. Here are some links to more covers (a page for each book), from the excellent Unoffical HP site, including Dutch and Spanish ones (check out the weird Catalan one). I like the Dutch ones, but, again, Buckbeak looks like something from the Island of Dr Moreau on CoS. http://www.geocities.com/harrypotterfans/hpbook1covgal.html http://www.geocities.com/harrypotterfans/hpbook2covgal.html http://www.geocities.com/harrypotterfans/hpbook3covgal.html Neil - "the old car" From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 21:23:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:23:00 -0400 Subject: Covers from around the world Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2698 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Covers from around the world Reply To: [Yahoo! #2697] Re: Covers from around the world Date: 6/23/00 5:23 pm (ET) "Buckbeak looks like something from the Island of Dr Moreau on CoS." Probably because he flew in there and realised he was supposed to be on PoA - silly creature! Mr Ford-Anglia From mchllpllck at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 21:25:00 2000 From: mchllpllck at yahoo.com (mchllpllck) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:25:00 -0400 Subject: Number of Harry Potter books? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2699 From: mchllpllck Subject: Number of Harry Potter books? Date: 6/23/00 5:25 pm (ET) Last winter I saw an interview with J.K. with Rosie .She told Rosie that she was contracted to write 10 books in the series and she had then completed 7 of the books.I have read some of the posts here that say she is only writing 7 total.What's up with that?I am confused .Do ya'll have some secret info that I have not heard yet? Peace , Michelle From trackgirl16 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 21:31:00 2000 From: trackgirl16 at yahoo.com (trackgirl16) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:31:00 -0400 Subject: Covers from around the world Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2700 From: trackgirl16 Subject: Re: Covers from around the world Reply To: [Yahoo! #2697] Re: Covers from around the world Date: 6/23/00 5:31 pm (ET) The German Harry looks remarkably similar to Leonardo DiCaprio with an attitude. Kris From estesrandy at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 21:33:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:33:00 -0400 Subject: Covers from around the world Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2701 From: estesrandy Subject: Re: Covers from around the world Reply To: [Yahoo! #2697] Re: Covers from around the world Date: 6/23/00 5:33 pm (ET) Based on the German Covers, I would expect Book 4 to be called "Harry Potter und der Folterkammer." which is a torture chamber by the way. He does look like a cool dude on the German Covers. I like the reference to Shaft that someone made earlier. I also prefer the British version of the Hippogriff. I hate the USA version of that animal. It is obvious from some of the new info on the board today that the hype is about to begin!! It reminds me of the two weeks prior to the Super Bowl in America. Can we have a quote for the press Harry? How does it feel to defeat a Basilisk? Can you Repeat? Who would you say is your toughest adversary so far? Would you want to face a Dragon next or a three-headed thingamajig? Harry, is it true about you and Cho Chang? Do you care to comment about Ron and Hermione? By the way, I saw a story about the Prince William coming of age. It mentioned how the press is ready to follow him around like his mother before him. What a shame! The story also mentioned that he has his mother's looks and that interesting look she would give out the corner of her eyes. It made me think of Harry Potter. Perhaps William's brother Harry should play Harry Potter! He is already famous and will have to deal with the press someday anyway! From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 21:37:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:37:00 -0400 Subject: Details of audio release... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2702 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Details of audio release... Date: 6/23/00 5:37 pm (ET) News from Yahoo... "An audio version of the fourth Harry Potter book is being released at the same time as the print edition, at 12:01 a.m. on July 8. The 752-page installment of the boy wizard's adventures will be available as a set of 17 CDs or 12 cassettes with a listening time of 20.5 hours." "...about 180,000 copies would being issued in the first release - and that one million copies of the audiobooks would available by the end of the year. The latter figure also includes recordings of the first three books in the Harry Potter series." "Actor Jim Dale, who narrated the earlier audiobooks, also reads the fourth one, creating more than 125 voices for different characters." Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 21:41:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:41:00 -0400 Subject: Prince Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2703 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Prince Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2701] Re: Covers from around the world Date: 6/23/00 5:41 pm (ET) "Perhaps William's brother Harry should play Harry Potter! He is already famous and will have to deal with the press someday anyway!" He'd make a better Ron - his ears go red when he does a photo call... Neil From golden_faile at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 21:47:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:47:00 -0400 Subject: YAHOO FROM HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2704 From: golden_faile Subject: YAHOO FROM HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 6/23/00 5:47 pm (ET) I am so upset with yahoo right now! I can't read any of the new posts! This club already moves so fast that it is hard to keep up!!!!Sorry I just needed to vent a little,I feel somewhat better now. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 21:53:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 17:53:00 -0400 Subject: YAHOO FROM HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2705 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: YAHOO FROM HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2704] YAHOO FROM HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: 6/23/00 5:53 pm (ET) See post #2609 - I posted a solution - Neil From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 22:02:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:02:00 -0400 Subject: book 4 cover Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2706 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: book 4 cover Reply To: [Yahoo! #2691] book 4 cover Date: 6/23/00 6:02 pm (ET) And Moses came down from mount thingy and said Exdus 20: 13 - and thou shalt not doubt the BBC, or Newround - for they art the best news service in the entire world - and is it any coinicidence that they are British? Of course, he was ignored at the time, because noone understood a word he was saying. Anyway - it IS TRUE! I saw it in newsround today myself! How can you question the BBC? They also gave away the plot a bit (IE my spoiler post). Of course - it's the BBC!! > I dont know if its real or not please... Nicholas From triner2001 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 22:02:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:02:00 -0400 Subject: Prince Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2707 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Prince Harry Date: 6/23/00 6:02 pm (ET) Great minds must think alike, Neil. Although I can only see the the first line of your post (and I did try your solution to the Yahoo prob earlier to no avail!) it seems that you are considering Prince Harry for Ron. That thought crossed my mind earlier this week when the RF was in the spotlight 'cuz of William's 18th birthday. So what are the odds of his being cast? (People I am being utterly facetious!) Trina From golden_faile at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 22:03:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:03:00 -0400 Subject: I can't get past message 2580 .......... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2708 From: golden_faile Subject: I can't get past message 2580 .......... Date: 6/23/00 6:03 pm (ET) I've tried several times and that is as far as it goes! From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 22:06:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:06:00 -0400 Subject: Details of audio release... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2709 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: Details of audio release... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2702] Details of audio release... Date: 6/23/00 6:06 pm (ET) What - I have the first two, and am convinced Stephen Fry narrates them... From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 22:15:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:15:00 -0400 Subject: Prince Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2710 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: Prince Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2707] Re: Prince Harry Date: 6/23/00 6:15 pm (ET) I really don't like the idea of Royalty playing ANYONE from Harry Potter - especially as a) Harry is poor - and comes from the 'gutter' - well, the Dursleys. I think we should have someone who has a bit of life experoence. Also - Harry (P) has black and unruly hair - and kicks arse. He is also smal, and thin. I am not too keen on the royal family - and really don't think they should do it. And, I wouldn't like him as Ron either. Ron is really tall, and has ginger hair. I would just find it insulting if Harry (W?) played Ron. Ron, despite being really poor - is good at something, and suceeds very well at being a wizard. Having royalty play him just seems absurd. The royal family do almost nothing for us - and don't give me any tourism lectures! Sorry about this, avid Royal Family fans - it just seems daft to me. Nicholas PS I live in Britain, not the US - so I am less of a Royal Family fan to start with PPS> Do any of you read my posts - as I rarely get replies. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 22:18:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:18:00 -0400 Subject: Narrator... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2711 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Narrator... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2709] Re: Details of audio release... Date: 6/23/00 6:18 pm (ET) That was referring to the US versions, which Jim Dale reads. He's better than Stephen Fry, by all accounts... Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 22:27:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:27:00 -0400 Subject: E-Mail vs Web Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2712 From: Danemead Subject: E-Mail vs Web Date: 6/23/00 6:27 pm (ET) Switch your option to e-mail delivery, if you can. Then you can read the posts as they come in, rather than waiting for Yahoo to get its online act together. You're allowed to choose an alternate e-mail address, rather than the Yahoo e-mail, if you like. From msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 22:31:00 2000 From: msjanedoe31 at yahoo.com (msjanedoe31) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:31:00 -0400 Subject: clarification please Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2713 From: msjanedoe31 Subject: clarification please Date: 6/23/00 6:31 pm (ET) Happy Friday! I am so glad that the week-end is here. I am teaching a summer class and although I love my kids, I need the break! Anyway, I am able to follow the posts thus far as I am new to this group, BUT I need some more help please. What does <g> mean? Have a magical day, Melissa Latest news: I was sorted and received my house assignment. I am a Ravenclaw. From triner2001 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 22:31:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:31:00 -0400 Subject: Prince Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2714 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Prince Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2710] Re: Prince Harry Date: 6/23/00 6:31 pm (ET) Nicholas, I believe I said I was being *facetious*! Hence I was *totally* kidding and not serious *at all!* I was merely remarking about Prince Harry's looks, which are similar to what I think Ron looks like, only Ron would have redder hair. Please, I wasn't looking for a lecture re: the Royal Family! Trina, who lives near the Queen City in the US. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 22:35:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:35:00 -0400 Subject: Prince Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2715 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Prince Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2710] Re: Prince Harry Date: 6/23/00 6:35 pm (ET) People don't reply to *every* message posted by one person - unless they are masochists and have all night to spare (like me). Also, sometimes, people just make observations... And sometimes people say things that don't spark anything off. Suggesting Prince Harry for Ron in the film was by way of a joke... in case you didn't spot that :) As for the Royal Family in general, I think they should be lined up and shot (metaphorically speaking). But, if not that, we should at least abolish 'The Monarchy' and sell some of the family silver to build housing for the homeless and put food in children's mouths. I don't want William to be King. I don't want anyone to be King. Except, perhaps, Harry Potter - after all, "he rulez". Neil From golden_faile at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 22:35:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:35:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2716 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: Harry's Love Life Reply To: [Yahoo! #2677] Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/23/00 6:35 pm (ET) They are still too young to be able to tell yet, kids are fickle! I got that Hermoine has a crush on Ron( I have to agree with Penny).He gets under her skin alot easier than Harry does.He was also looking at her in a new way in the last book.She surprised him a couple of times.I think Ginny will probably grow up over one of the summers,and Harry will probably notice her. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 22:41:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:41:00 -0400 Subject: Covers from Around the World Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2717 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Covers from Around the World Date: 6/23/00 6:41 pm (ET) Hi: Thanks for adding these Skimmel. I must say Harry looks evil in the German covers, I agree with whoever wondered if Harry & Hermione were necking on the Finnish PoA cover (hey, maybe I do like that one after all), and he looks fat on the Iceland cover. Of the ones posted, I love the Denmark PoA. Do you have other Denmark covers? That one was beautiful -- by far better than the US or Brit versions. I think I remember reading that JKR prefers the Danish coverart. I agree with Neil -- the adult covers in Britain are quite sinister. And, the regular trade versions in Britain give Harry too "round" a face. Interesting artwork overall! Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 22:44:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:44:00 -0400 Subject: Email v Web Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2718 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Email v Web Date: 6/23/00 6:44 pm (ET) Hi: I have the email option set -- couple of comments. Today, I've been getting the messages all day long, generally shortly after posted it seems. So, I'm better off today than some of you, who seem to be having trouble. Yesterday or the day before, I would get nothing all day (even though a glance at the webpage told me messages were being posted), and then, whammo, I'd get 60-75 messages downloaded all at once in the middle of the night. Yahoo is sporadic at best. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 22:47:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 18:47:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2719 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/23/00 6:47 pm (ET) Hi: <They are still too young to be able to tell yet, kids are fickle! I got that Hermoine has a crush on Ron( I have to agree with Penny).> Actually, I'm the one who thinks Hermione has a crush on Harry. I think Ron has a crush on Hermione. Or, that at least, each of them has the potential for these crushes. Penny From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 23:04:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:04:00 -0400 Subject: Prince Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2720 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Prince Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2710] Re: Prince Harry Date: 6/23/00 7:04 pm (ET) > Do any of you read my posts - as I rarely get replies. Having read the whole archive (including your posts), I am now trying to read every new post as they come in (that won't be possible when I return to work starting Monday, my best hope will be to catch up on all the posts during a couple of marathon PC sessions per week) but Yahoo keeps screwing up which slows down my reading. Whoever used the subject line: Yahoo From Hell is correct. > I really don't like the idea of Royalty playing > ANYONE from Harry Potter - especially as ... I > wouldn't like him as Ron either. Ron is really > tall, and has ginger hair. I would just find it > insulting if Harry (W?) played Ron. Ron, despite > being really poor - is good at something, and > suceeds very well at being a wizard. I'm an American which may be why I don't waste my energy on being anti-monarchist. My reaction was that it would really be a hoot for Prince Harry to play Ron (he *can't* play Harry, as you said, because he looks so different from Harry), 1) if he dyes his hair, (the height thing can't be important or it would have made an impression on me in the books) and 2)IF he can act and he passes the audition. If he can act, then he is good at something (acting), and if he can act, then he can act like coming from a poor but proud family. However, isn't he too old? From houston425 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 23:09:00 2000 From: houston425 at yahoo.com (houston425) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:09:00 -0400 Subject: Thanks for the Yahoo fix Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2721 From: houston425 Subject: Thanks for the Yahoo fix Date: 6/23/00 7:09 pm (ET) Neil: Thank you, thank you, thank you for your Yahoo fix. About three minutes after I read (and thankfully saved) your post... BANG... down went Yahoo. So I had an opportunity to try it. Of course I *was* a little confused at first because I have a Macintosh so therefore I just have one big button!! :) But I figured it out and it does work. Laurie From golden_faile at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 23:25:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:25:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2722 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: Harry's Love Life Reply To: [Yahoo! #2719] Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/23/00 7:25 pm (ET) Ooopps!oh well! I got that wrong didn't I? That's what I get for trying to speed read! I think at that age you never really know, anything can happen! From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 23:27:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:27:00 -0400 Subject: Sorted (was: clarification please Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2723 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Sorted (was: clarification please Reply To: [Yahoo! #2713] clarification please Date: 6/23/00 7:27 pm (ET) > Latest news: I was sorted and received my house assignment. I am a Ravenclaw. Clap, cheer, stomp feet, applause! Welcome to Ravenclaw, Melissa! I figure I'm Class of '74... From golden_faile at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 23:28:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:28:00 -0400 Subject: Prince Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2724 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: Prince Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2720] Re: Prince Harry Date: 6/23/00 7:28 pm (ET) Too old or not, I think his father and grandmother would rather sacrifice him to wolves before letting him act.I know actresses have become royalty,but have you ever heard of the other way around? From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 23:35:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:35:00 -0400 Subject: Prince Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2725 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Prince Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2724] Re: Prince Harry Date: 6/23/00 7:35 pm (ET) > Too old or not, I think his father and > grandmother would rather sacrifice him to > wolves before letting him act.I know actresses > have become royalty,but have you ever heard of > the other way around? Much laughter..., but he'll have to do *something* for a living if Nicholas abolishes the monarchy. And acting is probably the job most similar to being a royal.... Footnotes to Burton's Thousand Nights and A Night explain that it was the law that every caliph have a job skill that would enable him to earn his own living (if he hadn't been caliph). Some had well-paid skills like scribe or physicians, but some passed the test only as heavy laborers. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 23:45:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:45:00 -0400 Subject: Royal acting/monster... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2726 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Royal acting/monster... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2724] Re: Prince Harry Date: 6/23/00 7:45 pm (ET) "I know actresses have become royalty,but have you ever heard of the other way around?" Well, Prince Edward runs a TV production company and has been known to tread the boards, much to the chagrin of any audience in the vicinity. Meanwhile, Bonnie Prince Charlie - heir to the throne - used to muck around with The Goons. Their agent hasn't found either of them much work lately though... Incidentally, if Chas makes it to King, he'll insist we called him King George VII, because the previous Kings Charles were all bonkers or giant toads (note: one of the Queen Mother's ancestors was called "the monster of Glamis" and could only go out at night, dragging his hideous form around on the roof of Glamis Castle). Just thought I'd drop that in... Neil From golden_faile at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 23:55:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:55:00 -0400 Subject: Royal acting/monster... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2727 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: Royal acting/monster... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2726] Royal acting/monster... Date: 6/23/00 7:55 pm (ET) You really know your stuff! I learned something today. I assumed all blue-bloods shunned the perfoming arts as a profession. From golden_faile at yahoo.com Fri Jun 23 23:58:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 19:58:00 -0400 Subject: Prince Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2728 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: Prince Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2725] Re: Prince Harry Date: 6/23/00 7:58 pm (ET) well,neil just shut my mouth(smile)! I was just informed that there are some royalty in entertainment! From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 00:05:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 20:05:00 -0400 Subject: Covers and [love] Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2729 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Covers and [love] Reply To: [Yahoo! #2717] Covers from Around the World Date: 6/23/00 8:05 pm (ET) Penny, The three links I posted include the Danish CoS. I like the Swedish covers - especially PS (SS). The Danish ones are the most 'mythical'-looking of the lot. Looking at the Finnish covers, it's hard to imagine any of the three main characters falling for each other: they all look like slobbering imbeciles who've been hit with an ugly stick. Talking of love (eeeeuch!!! girl thing), Harry represents the dashing hero, who makes heartstrings flutter, but will end up a hero - alone and rejected (or dead). Ron is the overlooked, gawky friend who ends up getting the girl through quiet stealth. He'll end up with a shy, elfin girl - but not before testing his mettle on Hermione. Again, death may step in... Hermione will blossom from a toothsome swot into a sophisticated mankiller with a mane of silky hair and a host of admirers. She'll end up with someone really hot, against all the odds. Not Harry though. flying_ford_trelawney From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 00:11:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 20:11:00 -0400 Subject: Covers and [love] Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2730 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Covers and [love] Reply To: [Yahoo! #2729] Re: Covers and [love] Date: 6/23/00 8:11 pm (ET) "Harry represents the dashing hero, who makes heartstrings flutter, but will end up a hero" Did I mention that he's a hero? N From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 00:16:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 20:16:00 -0400 Subject: clarification please Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2731 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: clarification please Reply To: [Yahoo! #2713] clarification please Date: 6/23/00 8:16 pm (ET) "What does <g> mean?" I don't know what half these things mean, either! But <g> means 'grin' <bg> - I think, is 'big grin' and I just learned BRB means 'be right back'! It all reminds me of a secretarial ad that used to run over here: "If u cn rd ths u cld mk a gd sctry" or something like that. TTFN, 73's and 88's, BCNU Neil From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 00:35:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 20:35:00 -0400 Subject: Royal acting/monster... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2732 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Royal acting/monster... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2726] Royal acting/monster... Date: 6/23/00 8:35 pm (ET) > Incidentally, if Chas makes it to King, he'll > insist we called him King George VII, because > the previous Kings Charles were all bonkers or > giant toads I thought that whoever gives the royals their orders had forbidden 'Charles' as throne name because there would be factions furious at the number III or the number IV (the former being those who view the Chevalier de St. George as King and the latter being those who view him as Young Pretender... was the famous Bonnie Prince Charlier the Young Pretender or his son?) Incidentally, do wizards have royals? The same royals as Muggles? I personally believe that the Ministry of Magic is the entire wizard government for the island of Britain (it has numerous departments) and that MoM is not related in any way to the Muggle government (or sovereign) except for passing word to certain career bureaucrats when necessary. My friend insists that MoM is part of Her Majesty's Government, with the Minister of Magic reporting to the Prime Minister (can you *imagine* leaving something as important as magic to a pair of *politicians*?) and the MoM getting its budget from a detail line in the 'black budget' -- I don't know if UK calls it the 'black budget' like US does, but it is the money appropriated in one lump sum to "all classified national security purposes". From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 00:37:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 20:37:00 -0400 Subject: British Book IV Cover Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2733 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: British Book IV Cover Date: 6/23/00 8:37 pm (ET) I apologize if someone else has already posted this... Thanks to Yahoo's incredible system I can't read any message newer than yesterday noon. Anyway, I have downloaded what purports to be the official British cover for Book IV... No title. Just what looks like Harry chasing a Golden Snitch while being toasted by a flying dragon. I've added it to the collection of pictures in the photo album. Enjoy. From trackgirl16 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 00:51:00 2000 From: trackgirl16 at yahoo.com (trackgirl16) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 20:51:00 -0400 Subject: Prince Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2734 From: trackgirl16 Subject: Re: Prince Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2710] Re: Prince Harry Date: 6/23/00 8:51 pm (ET) I can sympathize...though we may not have royalty in the U.S., every four years we elect a man who thinks he is. :) From trackgirl16 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 00:57:00 2000 From: trackgirl16 at yahoo.com (trackgirl16) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 20:57:00 -0400 Subject: Prince Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2735 From: trackgirl16 Subject: Re: Prince Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2724] Re: Prince Harry Date: 6/23/00 8:57 pm (ET) Having the Prince be either Ron or Harry wouldn't faze me-an American-but I can see how distracting it would be for you Brits who see him every day on the news. It would be like Clinton playing Dumbledore. :) Sorry, that thought just came to me or I would've condensed with my previous post... Kris From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 01:50:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 21:50:00 -0400 Subject: clarification please Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2736 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: clarification please Reply To: [Yahoo! #2731] Re: clarification please Date: 6/23/00 9:50 pm (ET) > TTFN, 73's and 88's, BCNU You're a ham! I'm not, but I remember there was a magazine named 73 (from some anarchist out of New Hampshire who evolved into BYTE magazine?), and "The Prisoner" got BCNU from hams. In hard-copy communication before e-mail was invented, I watched hi-hi being replaced by HHOK (stand for Ha-Ha Only Kidding) being replaced by :-). From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 02:37:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98) Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 22:37:00 -0400 Subject: Covers from Around the World Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2737 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Covers from Around the World Reply To: [Yahoo! #2717] Covers from Around the World Date: 6/23/00 10:37 pm (ET) Your wish is my command. You'll find all three Danish covers in the photo album now. My pictures of the other two Danish covers aren't as high quality as the Prisoner of Azkaban. Most of the rest of the world's covers are translations based on the American covers. I have the Korean, the Polish and the Norwegian cover for Philosopher's Stone and they are all exactly like the American... The Norwegian for reasons best known by others chose to do the words Harry Potter in blue letters. Can anyone confirm my Israel cover is actually from Israel? Can anyone give me a reasonable explanation as to why they decided to reverse the picture? From estesrandy at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 04:05:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 00:05:00 -0400 Subject: Stirring up Trouble Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2738 From: estesrandy Subject: Stirring up Trouble Date: 6/24/00 12:05 am (ET) Just to stir the pot some more... I'm enjoying all the trouble I caused with the Prince Harry comment :) As long as I'm at it....Why not have Camilla play Professor Trelawney? Prince Charles could play Professor Quirrell. I always suspected he had something evil under his Crown! :) In regards to the Royals and America. I think most Americans are baffled by all the attention and money being given to those professional freeloaders! I guess I'm done now. Cause trouble, post and go ! That's me. Actually I'm one of the Weasley Triplets. They thought they were Twins, but I was separated at birth! TTFN! P. S. I actually picture Harry as a very young Pete Townsend ( of The WHO). In fact, the instrumental part of Baba O'Reilly would fit well into some of the action sequences in the movie! From triner2001 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 04:07:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 00:07:00 -0400 Subject: Covers from around the world Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2739 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Covers from around the world Date: 6/24/00 12:07 am (ET) I can't confirm the Israel cover, but as for the picture being reversed, a line from _My Fair Lady_ comes quickly to mind--"And Hebrews learn in backward, which is absolutely frightning." (From "Why Can't the English Learn to Speak") I don't know why that popped into my head, but I felt the need to share. Trina PS I really enjoyed the cover gallery. From estesrandy at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 04:14:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 00:14:00 -0400 Subject: The Rolling Sorcerer's Stone Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2740 From: estesrandy Subject: The Rolling Sorcerer's Stone Date: 6/24/00 12:14 am (ET) By the way, that Harry Potter cover from Iceland looks a little like a very young Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones. "Now what can a poor boy do Except to fight evil with his bare hands Cause in Sleepy London Town There's just no place for a Street Fightin' Man" From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 05:45:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 01:45:00 -0400 Subject: Israel's cover reversed... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2741 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Israel's cover reversed... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2737] Re: Covers from Around the World Date: 6/24/00 1:45 am (ET) I think the Hebrew language is read from right to left, like Japanese. This explains why in American translations of manga (Japenese comics) they reverse the pages for us... I think it's something similar. Can anyone confirm this? Someone told me this once, but I'm not 100% sure it's acurate. It certainly would explain it anyways. Jarnor23 From golden_faile at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 06:01:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 02:01:00 -0400 Subject: Sorted (was: clarification please Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2742 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: Sorted (was: clarification please Reply To: [Yahoo! #2723] Re: Sorted (was: clarification please Date: 6/24/00 2:01 am (ET) I was sorted into Gryffindor today! From pt4ever at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 06:10:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 02:10:00 -0400 Subject: Just for clarification... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2743 From: pt4ever Subject: Just for clarification... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2742] Re: Sorted (was: clarification please Date: 6/24/00 2:10 am (ET) Here's for all the "newbies" out there... :) <g> - grin <bg> - big grin LOL - Laughing Out Loud ROTFL - Rolling On The Floor Laughing ROTFLMAO - Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Ass Off (This can be changed to ROTFLMASO, or Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Socks Off, if you don't like to swear.) :) BTW - by the way IMHO - In My Humble Opinion TTYL - Talk To Ya Later And then there are the wonderful "emoticons" - :) (happy), :( (sad), :D (laughing, or broad smile), :P (sticking your tongue out), :~-( (crying), :-/ (not happy, not sad, kinda mediocre) :o) (happy with a clown nose)...the list goes on and on. <g> Hope I helped! -- JoAnna From golden_faile at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 06:14:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 02:14:00 -0400 Subject: Just for clarification... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2744 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: Just for clarification... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2743] Just for clarification... Date: 6/24/00 2:14 am (ET) What exactly is TTFN? I think it means TaTa For Now,am I right? From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 08:50:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 04:50:00 -0400 Subject: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2745 From: babynick34 Subject: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Date: 6/24/00 4:50 am (ET) Someone mentioned this a few days ago... sorry, I can't remember who it was - but it got my interest, so like Hermione would do... I did some research. The four houses do certainly match quite well with the 4 elements. Gryffindor = Fire Ravenclaw = Air Slytherin = Water Hufflepuff = Earth It seems to be all about Astrology. Zodiac signs fit into these four basic types Aries, Leo and Sagittarius are Fire Gemini, Libra, Aquarius are Air Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces are Water Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn are Earth Fire people are the motivators. They are proud, confident and have enthusiasm. They are bright, strong and like to take control. (That describes Harry, Hermione and Ron quite well I think) There is a lot more to this, but as this post is getting on the long side - the above should be enough to start off some discussions. Nick. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 09:03:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 05:03:00 -0400 Subject: British Book IV Cover Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2746 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: British Book IV Cover Reply To: [Yahoo! #2733] British Book IV Cover Date: 6/24/00 5:03 am (ET) "I apologize if someone else has already posted this... Thanks to Yahoo's incredible system I can't read any message newer than yesterday noon." Yes, someone posted a link to it, but it was too small to see properly. Now you've posted a bigger version, I can see Harry in it. It still looks wrong, somehow. The artist is different to the ones who did the first three UK books, but there was a change of artists before - Thomas Taylor did PS and Cliff Wright did CoS and PoA. I dunno... Neil PS - I posted a solution to the Yahoo 'can't read the messages' problem in message 2609 - if you can read that now, I suggest printing it off for future reference. It has worked for some people. N Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 09:12:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 05:12:00 -0400 Subject: clarification please Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2747 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: clarification please Reply To: [Yahoo! #2736] Re: clarification please Date: 6/24/00 5:12 am (ET) "You're a ham! I'm not, but I remember there was a magazine named 73" I'm not a ham (unless I'm acting), but an old schoolfriend of mine is one, with knobs on. When other kids were out in the streets playing football, he would be in his shed, tinkering with radio parts and wielding a soldering iron. He was also the guy who remembered that my fourth school house was called Stags. He was one. I was a Gryphon. For those who are confused - a ham is a radio amateur, TTFN is 'Ta Ta For Now', 73's is 'Best Wishes' and 88's is 'Love and Kisses'. Over and out. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 09:15:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 05:15:00 -0400 Subject: Stirring up Trouble Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2748 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Stirring up Trouble Reply To: [Yahoo! #2738] Stirring up Trouble Date: 6/24/00 5:15 am (ET) "Why not have Camilla play Professor Trelawney?" There's only one part for her - Buckbeak. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 09:23:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 05:23:00 -0400 Subject: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2749 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Reply To: [Yahoo! #2745] Earth, Water, Air, Fire Date: 6/24/00 5:23 am (ET) "The four houses do certainly match quite well with the 4 elements." It was Catlady who brought this up. I'm an earth type (Taurus, Buffalo etc.), which would put me in Hufflepuff. However, I would have argued with the Sorting Hat until it put me in Gryffindor. I'm afraid to get sorted by Melanie though... Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 09:44:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 05:44:00 -0400 Subject: JK Rowling Biography out soon Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2750 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: JK Rowling Biography out soon Date: 6/24/00 5:44 am (ET) "J.K. Rowling: The Wizard Behind Harry" by Marc Shapiro (St Martin's Press). This book is reportedly due out on 1st August 2000. No other info at the moment. Neil From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 11:08:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 07:08:00 -0400 Subject: Houses (was: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2751 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Houses (was: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Reply To: [Yahoo! #2749] Re: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Date: 6/24/00 7:08 am (ET) > I'm an earth type (Taurus, Buffalo etc.), which > would put me in Hufflepuff. There's a lot more to astrology than Sun Signs. I suppose we have to add up the signs that each planet and thingie (Sun, Moon, Ascendent, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Chiron, Ceres, Pallas, Vesta, Juno, lunar nodes, etc) is in -- with a system of weighting Sun, Moon, and Ascendent very heavily and the Asteroids & nodes & so on very lightly.... and a system of increasing or decreasing the weight if the thingy has a location or aspect that makes it more or less influential.... I'm not smart enough to be an astrologer the same way that I'm not smart enough to be an engineer. > However, I would have argued with the Sorting > Hat until it put me in Gryffindor. > I'm afraid to get sorted by Melanie though... Where is that Gryffindor courage??? It's 4am here. I've been up reading Blaise's stories on www.fanfiction.net but now I'm going bynies. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 11:41:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 07:41:00 -0400 Subject: Houses (was: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2752 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Houses (was: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Reply To: [Yahoo! #2751] Re: Houses (was: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Date: 6/24/00 7:41 am (ET) "There's a lot more to astrology than Sun Signs" Yeah, although I am what's known as a double Taurus - sun and moon in Taurus - I'm earthy to the max. Dividing people into 12 signs is silly, so dividing them into 4 houses is even more so! There must be room for diversity in all the Hogwart's houses, to allow for studious Gryffindors, caring Slytherins, brave Hufflepuffs and evil Ravenclaws. "Where is that Gryffindor courage???" Doh! You got me. Neil From triner2001 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 14:56:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 10:56:00 -0400 Subject: Sorting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2753 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Sorting Date: 6/24/00 10:56 am (ET) I'm in Ravenclaw! Trina BTW, Neil, regarding the Buckbeak comment: MEOW!! From estesrandy at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 16:08:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:08:00 -0400 Subject: I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2754 From: estesrandy Subject: I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers) Date: 6/24/00 12:08 pm (ET) This message is written in reply to an earlier challenge to come up with a Harry Potter version of the song from Pirates of Penzance.(sp?) It may contain information about the first three books that you have not read yet. If so, don't read the words until you have finished the first 3 books; otherwise enjoy !! I am the very model of an Adult Harry Potter Fan (words by Randy Estes You can make up your own!) I am the very model of an Adult Harry Potter Fan My book collection's full of books that other people wish to ban! I'm quite adept at Hogwarts facts, Yahoo message boards I have read >From Slytherin, and Hufflepuff, to potions that fill up my head. I'm very good at quoting phrases, I have even memorized When Harry fights the Basilisk, my full attention's mesmorized. I can remember everything that happened at the Shrieking Shack When Lupin and Scabbers ran off, I almost had a heart attack. When Quirrell took off his Turban, I never quite expected that The bad guy we were looking for was hiding underneath his hat. But Harry grabbed the Sorcerer's Stone while looking at reflections of The visions in the mirror to save characters that we all love. I can't stop thinking 'bout the next book J.K. Rowling's dreaming up Will Harry date Hermione, and who will win the next Quidditch Cup? When other people are asleep, I'm making up this silly song 'Cause Harry Potter's magic has made something in my head go wrong! NOW EVERYONE SING TOGETHER!... When children's books cause such demand You see this can get out of hand. I am the very model of an Adult Harry Potter Fan! Well? What do you guys think about it? From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 16:34:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:34:00 -0400 Subject: CD listening - UK/US words Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2755 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: CD listening - UK/US words Date: 6/24/00 12:34 pm (ET) Yeah, it's me again! But don't worry, I'm out ALL night, and unable to reach a computer... until about 4am BST :) Well folks, I finally settled down to listen to the CD version of Book 1, and I have a few comments: I really like Jim Dale's style and marvel at the way he switches from voice to voice. I wasn't expecting Professor McGonagall to have an accent, but Jim gives her a passable Edinburgh-Scottish brogue, which veers occasionally into Welsh, via Montgomery Scott ("I cannae hold her much longer, Professor!"). His Hagrid is exactly what I expected - a West Country accent: gruff, vaguely-uneducated Bristolian. The Dursleys are also spot on: common Ex-Londoners trying to sound well-spoken. Anyway, my question relates to the slight Americanisations in the first few chapters. Here are a few examples that stuck out for me: - Hagrid's hands are like "trash can lids" [dustbin lids]; - Harry's hair has "bangs" [a fringe]; - Mr Dursley's face goes as red as a "beet" [beetroot]; - Harry's glasses are held together with "Scotch tape" [Sellotape]. I'm sure there are other British words they didn't change [e.g. chipolata, later on], which also seems odd. If I read a book by an American author, I would know what beets, bangs and trash cans were, and I think the use of those words would enhance the American 'feel' of the story. I just wonder why they bothered to make the changes at all? The only reason I can think of, is that 9-12 year old American kids are assumed not to know the UK meanings. Is that the case? How does Scholastic decide what is and isn't likely to be understood? Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 16:38:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:38:00 -0400 Subject: I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2756 From: Danemead Subject: Re: I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers Reply To: [Yahoo! #2754] I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers) Date: 6/24/00 12:38 pm (ET) ROFLMFAO!! Wonderful! I hope you are going to submit it to the parody website...? It deserves to be "immortalized" -- LOL! Thank you for responding to the Challenge. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 16:39:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:39:00 -0400 Subject: I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2757 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers Reply To: [Yahoo! #2754] I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers) Date: 6/24/00 12:39 pm (ET) That's great Randy... let's make it our 'school' song. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 16:41:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:41:00 -0400 Subject: I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2758 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers Reply To: [Yahoo! #2757] Re: I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers Date: 6/24/00 12:41 pm (ET) I'll start singing it now... the rest of you join in as the sun sets in your time zone. The effect should be that of a joyful cacophony. Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 16:44:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 12:44:00 -0400 Subject: CD listening - UK/US words Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2759 From: Danemead Subject: Re: CD listening - UK/US words Reply To: [Yahoo! #2755] CD listening - UK/US words Date: 6/24/00 12:44 pm (ET) I'm sorry they changed ANY of the words. Part of the joy of reading is learning new things, especially learning about other cultures. I'm afraid that the producers of entertainment for the American masses have a VERY low opinion of our intelligence. Everything seems to be "dumbed down" to the level of the average 4th grader. If the kids aren't challenged to discover for themselves what unfamiliar words mean, then the future of education looks mighty bleak. [jumps down from soapbox, falls on face] From estesrandy at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 17:06:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:06:00 -0400 Subject: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2760 From: estesrandy Subject: Re: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Reply To: [Yahoo! #2745] Earth, Water, Air, Fire Date: 6/24/00 1:06 pm (ET) I just realized that my family contains Earth, Water, Air, and Fire!! Does that mean that we are in for a lot of trouble ? My wife is Capricorn -- Earth Our Yongest son is Pisces -- Water I am an Aquarius -- Air Our two older boys are Leos -- Fire Is this supposed to be a good thing to mix up all the elements? Or does it imply constant conflict for the next 20 years? Any opinions out there? From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 17:18:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 13:18:00 -0400 Subject: Covers from around the world Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2761 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: Re: Covers from around the world Reply To: [Yahoo! #2701] Re: Covers from around the world Date: 6/24/00 1:18 pm (ET) Actually...just curious...does anyone know if Mary GrandPre's illustrations will be used will all the books worldwide, or just the American version? Hagrid http://www.hagridshut.com From triner2001 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 18:45:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 14:45:00 -0400 Subject: CD listening - UK/US words Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2762 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: CD listening - UK/US words Reply To: [Yahoo! #2755] CD listening - UK/US words Date: 6/24/00 2:45 pm (ET) I, too, am very sorry the Scholastic types changed the Briticisms (ok,, so I just coined a word) in the Harry Potter books. When I was a kid and read a book published in the UK I either looked up unfamiliar words or figured it out by the context. I always enjoyed learning new phrases/words. It was part of the reason I loved to read. From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 19:22:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 15:22:00 -0400 Subject: Best covers from Around the World Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2763 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Best covers from Around the World Date: 6/24/00 3:22 pm (ET) I just uploaded better - much larger versions - of the covers to Philosopher's Stone and Chamber of Secrets. They are, in my opinion, by far the best covers of them all. Many countries have been using the American covers with only translation changes. I assume this will continue. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 20:34:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:34:00 -0400 Subject: Best covers from Around the World Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2764 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Best covers from Around the World Reply To: [Yahoo! #2763] Best covers from Around the World Date: 6/24/00 4:34 pm (ET) Hi: Thanks for all the photos of covers Skimmel -- do you actually have all these books or just photos of the coverart? I like the Swedish covers, but I think the Danish covers are actually the best. Although why does everyone insist on putting a basilisk &/or a phoenix on the cover to Chamber? I'm *definitely* going to shut my eyes and take off the dust jacket at the B&N when I buy my copy. Penny From pt4ever at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 20:40:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:40:00 -0400 Subject: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2765 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Reply To: [Yahoo! #2745] Earth, Water, Air, Fire Date: 6/24/00 4:40 pm (ET) >>> Gryffindor = Fire Ravenclaw = Air Slytherin = Water Hufflepuff = Earth It seems to be all about Astrology. Zodiac signs fit into these four basic types Aries, Leo and Sagittarius are Fire Gemini, Libra, Aquarius are Air Cancer, Scorpio, Pisces are Water >>> Hmmm. I've been sorted twice (once on Melanie's site and once on another site, I forget where) and both times I've been put into Ravenclaw. Yet I'm a Scorpio, which is Water, which is Slytherin. Maybe I'm like Harry and I have some Slytherin qualities? (Although I can't think of any at the moment...and I HATE snakes with a passion. They're my one great fear.) Just thought I'd share... :) -- JoAnna From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 20:43:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 16:43:00 -0400 Subject: I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2766 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers Reply To: [Yahoo! #2754] I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers) Date: 6/24/00 4:43 pm (ET) very cool lyrics, randy. By the power vested in me by no one in particular, I declare you to be a complete and total, incorrigible, and possibly insane, Harry Potter fanatic. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 21:02:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:02:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2767 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry's Love Life Reply To: [Yahoo! #2677] Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/24/00 5:02 pm (ET) Please note the following will probably contain spoilers for book 3. Well back to the Harry and Hermione thing! I see that in the first two books Hermione is very amazed at who Harry is and the great things he has achieved. To me this declines in book 3 by which time she knows him a lot better. After Ron has been 'attacked', Hermione asks Hagrid how he is but no mention is made that she asked if Harry was hurt or anything at the same time. Maybe I am reading too much into this but I took that as the start in a change in her feelings towards the two of them. Simon (who has been busy all day and is now trying to catch up on some post) From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 21:04:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:04:00 -0400 Subject: UK - Warning about Importing Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2768 From: babynick34 Subject: UK - Warning about Importing Date: 6/24/00 5:04 pm (ET) Hi all... just arrived home to find a letter from Fed-Ex. Oh Joy! For those of you who have thought about purchasing from WBSTORE.COM be warned... they send using Fed-Ex who very kindly pay the customs charges on your behalf so you get the package nice and quick. Then a few weeks later, you get an invoice. UK Customs has decided that Mugs and T-Shirts from the US are going to be charged both DUTY and VAT. This makes importing these goods extremly expensive... so before you do it... do remember that you will have additional charges to pay above what Warner Store invoices you for. I wonder if Warner Bros will consider sending via Amsterdam, like Amazon.com does. Maybe next time I will insist on them using DHL-Worldmail. Nick. From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 21:12:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:12:00 -0400 Subject: UK - Warning about Importing Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2769 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: UK - Warning about Importing Reply To: [Yahoo! #2768] UK - Warning about Importing Date: 6/24/00 5:12 pm (ET) > I wonder if Warner Bros will consider sending via Amsterdam, like Amazon.com does. Maybe next time I will insist on them using DHL-Worldmail. Amazon.com??? Grrrrr... Nicholas From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 21:12:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:12:00 -0400 Subject: Slytherin qualities Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2770 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Slytherin qualities Reply To: [Yahoo! #2765] Re: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Date: 6/24/00 5:12 pm (ET) <. Maybe I'm like Harry and I have some Slytherin qualities? (Although I can't think of any at the moment...and I HATE snakes with a passion.> Maybe you can say "Get the %@#* away from me!" in Parseltongue. <G> From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 21:13:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:13:00 -0400 Subject: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2771 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2694] Re: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Date: 6/24/00 5:13 pm (ET) "And in another transcript she said firmly "There is no University for wizards" I am sure this is just JKR saying that she does not want to write more than the seven HP books. I personally think she should start a completely new series about something totally different after that. I have watched too many TV shows that have got silly by trying to do too many follow ups and spin offs! "I have a suspicion that the reason that JKR is so *certain* that she won't write any book about what happens to Harry after Hogwart's is that she plans for him to die in the seventh book. Die fighting Voldemort." Amazing idea! I am not sure this would fit in with it being a childrens book, but I don't feel we need to get back into the debate on is it a childrens book! I could see someone else sacrificinf their life (Dumbledore) for this to be allowed to happen. This would go back to his comment on death being the next adventure in PS. Also by the end of book seven the guiding role of Dumbledore would be finished, so having a 'useful' ending for him would be good. Hope this is not too incoherent! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 21:20:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:20:00 -0400 Subject: Who would you want to be? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2772 From: hert0661 Subject: Who would you want to be? Date: 6/24/00 5:20 pm (ET) I know this came up a about a week ago but a friend reminded me of something today. I would be a natural for Harry as my hair does that stupid sticking up thing at the back and is totally unmanagable unless I cut it really short or apply lots of hair gel. Simon From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 21:24:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:24:00 -0400 Subject: Number of Harry Potter books? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2773 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: Number of Harry Potter books? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2699] Number of Harry Potter books? Date: 6/24/00 5:24 pm (ET) There will be seven books, one for each year that Harry is in school. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 21:50:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:50:00 -0400 Subject: UK - Warning about Importing Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2774 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: UK - Warning about Importing Reply To: [Yahoo! #2769] Re: UK - Warning about Importing Date: 6/24/00 5:50 pm (ET) Yes well.. at least they have worked out how to ship to the UK avoiding as best as possible the importation taxes. Pity no other US companies have managed to do that yet. Nick (not an amazon fan... though they do seem to slip past customs and excise!) From babynick34 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 21:55:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 17:55:00 -0400 Subject: New Photos - Books Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2775 From: babynick34 Subject: New Photos - Books Date: 6/24/00 5:55 pm (ET) Hi all Added some more photos of book covers - and also discovered a limit to the photo albums. The photo albums are limited to 24 pictures... so for the new pics (British Covers) see Covers from around the World, and, Covers from around the World (2). Nick From Danemead at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 22:09:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 18:09:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2776 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Harry's Love Life Reply To: [Yahoo! #2767] Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/24/00 6:09 pm (ET) For what it's worth, I see Ron and Hermione as the classic Spencer Tracy-Katharine Hepburn type romance (for younger members, think Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan in 'You've Got Mail'). The two of them start out by irritating each other to the point of exasperation. They get on each other's nerves. They may even hate each other at times. Which means that they are Doomed, according to Hollywood and classic romantic tradition, to Fall In Love. In the fanfic "Paradigm of Uncertainty" the author makes a convincing case for a future relationship between Harry and Hermione, but I get the feeling that JKR doesn't intend this. Of course, I agree that they are still too young to really be thinking about "forever" -- I see Harry graduating and traveling (alone) to off-the-wall places to learn advanced magic from various masters around the world, the better to fight Evil and Corruption in the magical world. :) From mrslibrarian at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 22:14:00 2000 From: mrslibrarian at yahoo.com (mrslibrarian) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 18:14:00 -0400 Subject: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2777 From: mrslibrarian Subject: Re: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2771] Re: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Date: 6/24/00 6:14 pm (ET) <"I have a suspicion that the reason that JKR is so *certain* that she won't write any book about what happens to Harry after Hogwart's is that she plans for him to die in the seventh book. Die fighting Voldemort." Amazing idea! I am not sure this would fit in with it being a childrens book. > The Narnia series would provide a precedent for this to happen - by the end of The Last Battle, all the characters have died! Nikki From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 22:16:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 18:16:00 -0400 Subject: Sorting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2778 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Sorting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2753] Re: Sorting Date: 6/24/00 6:16 pm (ET) > I'm in Ravenclaw! >From the Ravenclaw table, loud cheers and cries of "welcome, Trina!" among clapping of hands and stomping of feet. Incidentally someone mentioned being a Scorpio sorted into Ravenclaw. I am a Scorpio who was sorted into Ravenclaw. There is more to a person than their Sun Sign, and for that matter there is more to Scorpio than the stinging scorpion -- it also contains a wise serpent and a lofty eagle (the serpent is the spiral of stars we call the scorpion's tail, but apparently the Inca Peruvians called it a jaguar's tail, the jaguar's body being some adjacent constellation) (and the eagle is the T of stars we call the scorpion's head and claws). In general I identify more with Water than with Air, but Slytherin is not about being emotional and moody and compassionate, but about the ability of water to sneakily get where it wants to go, through soil or cracks in stone or over dams... From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 22:18:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 18:18:00 -0400 Subject: I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2779 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers Reply To: [Yahoo! #2754] I am the Very Model of.....(spoilers) Date: 6/24/00 6:18 pm (ET) > Well? What do you guys think about it? I have to join with everyone else in saying that it's FABULOUS! From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 22:23:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 18:23:00 -0400 Subject: CD listening - UK/US words Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2780 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: CD listening - UK/US words Reply To: [Yahoo! #2755] CD listening - UK/US words Date: 6/24/00 6:23 pm (ET) > I just wonder why they bothered to make the changes at all? The only reason I can think of, is that 9-12 year old American kids are assumed not to know the UK meanings. Is that the case? Yes, that is the reason > How does Scholastic decide what is and isn't likely to be understood? They hired an Americanizer to read the pre-galleys ('manuscripts' doesn't sound right) and mark down the changes. She was interviewed on NPR before I started reading HP books (I'm a latecomer). She didn't change 'peppermint humbug' because she thought it was a made-up wizard thing rather than a real life (tm) thing. Changing Sellotape to Scotch Tape ruined the pun on Spell-o-tape --- which led me to invent spellegraph (THE VICTORIAN INTERNET, wizard version). From christineoswell at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 23:04:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 19:04:00 -0400 Subject: Death of Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2781 From: christineoswell Subject: Death of Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2777] Re: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Date: 6/24/00 7:04 pm (ET) <"I have a suspicion that the reason that JKR is so *certain* that she won't write any book about what happens to Harry after Hogwart's is that she plans for him to die in the seventh book. Die fighting Voldemort." <Amazing idea! I am not sure this would fit in with it being a childrens book. > < The Narnia series would provide a precedent for this to happen - by the end of The Last Battle, all the characters have died! This brings to mind the Little Mermaid. In the original story Ariel is supposed to kill the prince's bride in order to keep her legs and win the prince for herself. She ends up sacrificing her own life for the prince's happiness. I was a little disappointed that when Disney remade it they changed the ending. As much of a fan as I am of Happily Ever After, I don't like it when someone takes it upon themselves to change the author's work. Just imagine what they would do to the movie if Harry died.... Christine From triner2001 at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 23:18:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 19:18:00 -0400 Subject: Sorting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2782 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Sorting Reply To: [Yahoo! #2778] Re: Sorting Date: 6/24/00 7:18 pm (ET) Hey, I'm a Virgo, so what does that mean? Aside from occasionally checking out my horoscope in the morning paper, I'm not up on astrology. Trina From estesrandy at yahoo.com Sat Jun 24 23:57:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 19:57:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2783 From: estesrandy Subject: Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Date: 6/24/00 7:57 pm (ET) Say thanks for all the accolades. I'm really glad you liked it so. But now this song is in my head And I can't seem to let it go. My wife says I am getting worse "Oh please don't write another verse!" Somebody please go find a nurse Because I think that I've been cursed! So won't somebody join the game And write another verse with me? There really isn't any true responsibility. So Gryffindors and Hufflepuffs And Slytherins please show your stuff. This Ravenclaw's rolled up his cuffs And posted all this silly fluff! (The crowd joins in for the chorus:) When children's books cause such demand You see this can get out of hand He is the very model of an Adult Harry Potter Fan! AAAHHHH. That felt better!! Just having some fun! Ravenclaw Randy :0) From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 01:03:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 21:03:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Dying in Book 7 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2784 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Harry Dying in Book 7 Date: 6/24/00 9:03 pm (ET) Hi: Well, as vindicated as my Christian allegory theory will be if Harry dies at the end of Book 7, I don't really think that will happen. Not so much because it's a "children's book" ("Where the Red Fern Grows" is about the saddest book there is and it's definitely a children's book). And, besides, Book 7 won't really be targeted at the 9-12 audience anymore, will it? At some point, isn't everyone going to have to acknowledge that the intended audience has aged, at least somewhat (maybe even be considered adult)? Oh, so back to Harry dying (before running off on a wild tangent) -- I don't see that happening. I can't really articulate why, other than things that JKR has said would not lead me to imagine that scenario. The last word in the last chapter of Book 7 is supposedly "scar." If true, how do you think that might be used if Harry were dead? Conversely, how might it be used if he were alive? I haven't come up with too much in that regard, but lots of you guys are more creative than I am. My vote is that Harry does not die at the end of Book 7. [Besides, if he did, how's he going to marry Hermione & live happily ever after?? <vbg>] Penny From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 01:11:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 21:11:00 -0400 Subject: Kids Interview Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2785 From: Danemead Subject: Kids Interview Date: 6/24/00 9:11 pm (ET) Someone whose e-mail is catlady (is that the same Catlady de LA from here?) posted this address on harrypotteranonymous. It's a kids' interview or chat with JKR, and it contains some info that I've never seen discussed elsewhere. http://www.southwestnews.com/potter2.htm A couple of interesting points: We will find out what Lily and James did for a living -- apparently it's important to the plot. She doesn't say in which book, though. She implies Harry will be with the Dursleys until he graduates, but then when the question is re-phrased later in the interview, she says she's not telling. We also find out in Book 7 why some people become ghosts and some do not. JKR says she won't say "Never" to an 8th Potter book, but that she has, at present, no plans to continue the series. (So there is hope!) Harry will be "in contact" with Sirius Black in Book 4. etc etc etc From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 01:17:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2000 21:17:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2786 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2783] Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Date: 6/24/00 9:17 pm (ET) Your wife is right, Randy ... the phrase & tune keep running through my head. ACK!! Sometime around 3 a.m. I'm going to be holding a flashlight and writing rhymes on my bedside notepad. Instead of Pirates of Penzance it's gonna be the Horrors of Hogwarts. Somebody do a Memory Charm on me and put me out of my misery... From lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 04:06:00 2000 From: lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com (lady_emerlyn) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 00:06:00 -0400 Subject: Elemental Houses Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2787 From: lady_emerlyn Subject: Elemental Houses Date: 6/25/00 12:06 am (ET) Howdy ALL. I love HP and the fact that my type can wear robes in public and not be burnt however there are some things that are missing from her use of elements in the Houses. Each element has certain colors and attributes associated with it, as do each of the houses but these don't necessarily come together correctly. Earth is green and black and means Fertility and stability, some times the symbol for this is the snake but I don't think that Slytherin can be attributed with these things. Fire is red, yellow and orange and covers the domain of the will. This works better for Slytherin but is commonly attributed to Gryffindor. Air is yellow and gold and covers the aspect of creativity, thought, inspiration and the mind... all Hermionie. Water is blue and silver and is associated with emotion the only people in this so far that would be covered by this element are Mrs. Weasly, Ginny and Hagrid... I Love JKR and Harry, but she's very Christian writing about some very Pagan concepts such as; the elements, forgetting the most important one usually associated with white or purple which is Spirit; the Divination teacher freaking out about 13 people sitting at a table when 13 happens to be the common number of people in a Coven and the number of months in the Pagan year, it's a good number not a bad one and last but not least the holidays where she has Witches celebrating Christmas and Easter and not mentioning Halloween as being Pagan New Year and a time for great celebration and mourning. I'm sorry if this is not the route for which this topic was meant but I just had to say this to people who are not in the "community" to get some feed back. Thanks Jess From golden_faile at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 04:13:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 00:13:00 -0400 Subject: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2788 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2771] Re: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Date: 6/25/00 12:13 am (ET) It's not completely unheard of for the hero to die in a children's book(bite my tongue).The Chronicles of Narnia is a good example. They all die in The Last Battle.I'm sorry if I ruined the ending for anyone who might be reading those stories. From golden_faile at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 04:18:00 2000 From: golden_faile at yahoo.com (golden_faile) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 00:18:00 -0400 Subject: CD listening - UK/US words Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2789 From: golden_faile Subject: Re: CD listening - UK/US words Reply To: [Yahoo! #2780] Re: CD listening - UK/US words Date: 6/25/00 12:18 am (ET) It makes no sense to me to change the wording around. We don't give our kids enough credit. I read The Chronicles of Narnia at 11 and understood them. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 04:22:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 00:22:00 -0400 Subject: Slytherin qualities Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2790 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Slytherin qualities Reply To: [Yahoo! #2770] Slytherin qualities Date: 6/25/00 12:22 am (ET) >>> <. Maybe I'm like Harry and I have some Slytherin qualities? (Although I can't think of any at the moment...and I HATE snakes with a passion.> Maybe you can say "Get the %@#* away from me!" in Parseltongue. <G> >>> ROTFLMSO!!! Great idea! Next time I see a snake (hopefully never...) I'll give it a whirl! -- JoAnna From pt4ever at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 04:39:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 00:39:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2791 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2783] Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Date: 6/25/00 12:39 am (ET) >>> So won't somebody join the game And write another verse with me? There really isn't any true responsibility. >>> Well, I'm not sure if I got the rhythmn and meter right, but here it goes: Harry hates a Slytherin whose name is Draco Malfoy Draco is a meany and he is a very snobby boy His father's rich and now the Snitch is chased by Draco at the match Though he wouldn't be the Seeker if not for his dear old daddy's cash. Well, it ain't Shakespeare, but at least it rhymes! :) -- JoAnna From gaushakri at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 07:53:00 2000 From: gaushakri at yahoo.com (gaushakri) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 03:53:00 -0400 Subject: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2792 From: gaushakri Subject: Re: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Reply To: [Yahoo! #2745] Earth, Water, Air, Fire Date: 6/25/00 3:53 am (ET) I am a Sagittarian - so will I qualify for Gryffindor if I don the Sorting Hat? Krish From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 08:09:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 04:09:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Dying in Book 7 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2793 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2784] Harry Dying in Book 7 Date: 6/25/00 4:09 am (ET) "The last word in the last chapter of Book 7 is supposedly "scar." If true, how do you think that might be used if Harry were dead? Conversely, how might it be used if he were alive?" The last word of book seven maybe scar but we could be tricking ourselves into thinking it is about Harry. This could be another case of JKR getting us to believe it is heading in one direction and then turning the story around. If it is to do with Harry then it could just be describing more about how he got the scar. It seems to me that Harry remembers a lot about the deaths of his parents but has not yet remembered it all. "Death of Harry!" I just don't see this as a plausible ending. I am not sure I could explain why! Narnia is special in thqat everyone dies. Maybe we could have this happen. Total world destruction! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 08:16:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 04:16:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2794 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry's Love Life Reply To: [Yahoo! #2776] Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/25/00 4:16 am (ET) "The two of them start out by irritating each other to the point of exasperation. They get on each other's nerves. They may even hate each other at times. Which means that they are Doomed, according to Hollywood and classic romantic tradition, to Fall In Love." This has always been my impression of Hermione and Ron. They are there to support Harry and as such I could not see it working if Hermione was Harry's girlfriend. Maybe I have got this feeling from watching too many Hollywood love storied! "In the fanfic "Paradigm of Uncertainty" the author makes a convincing case for a future relationship between Harry and Hermione" The only problem I am having with the fanfic is that it is clouding my view of what will happen in the JKR books. It is making me look for signs that Ron will die etc... Simon From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 11:21:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 07:21:00 -0400 Subject: Kids Interview Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2795 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Kids Interview Reply To: [Yahoo! #2785] Kids Interview Date: 6/25/00 7:21 am (ET) > Someone whose e-mail is catlady (is that the > same Catlady de LA from here? Yup. That's me. From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 11:29:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 07:29:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2796 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2783] Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Date: 6/25/00 7:29 am (ET) Oh, ye gods, this one is even funnier!11 From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 11:46:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 07:46:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Dying in Book 7 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2797 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2784] Harry Dying in Book 7 Date: 6/25/00 7:46 am (ET) > The last word in the last chapter of Book 7 is > supposedly "scar." If true, how do you think > that might be used if Harry were dead? I'm fantasizing that there is this great big super battle (between finals and graduation!) in which Harry dies, leaving his young friends both astonished and heart-broken (but Dumbledore is perfectly calm). As Ron and Hermione, each crying an ocean of tears, instinctively cling to each other, each sees a vision of Harry walking up the sky to join his parents and any other beloved dead who have accumulated, turning once to smile and wave at R + H, then turning to throw himself into hugging his mother and father, and all fade out like a cinema special effect. And R + H know it's more than a simple fantasy when they learn they both saw it the same. R + H are the ones who sort through Harry's stuff in his room to choose a nice robe and stuff for him to be buried in, and I guess to pack up the rest to be sent to whomever the heirs are --- and they find a magic artifact on his pillow. When Ron touches it, it says (speaking in Harry's voice) "Hi, Ron. Where's Hermione? She needs to hear this, too." So Hermione also touches it, so both are touching it, and it says: "Remember when Dumbledore told us, to the well-prepared mind, death is merely the next great adventure?" and goes on to explain how, by dying, he was metaphysically able to kill Voldemort ... altho' not to kill evil, evil still exists and must be combatted. And he tells them, whatever they do with the rest of their lives, don't spend it moping around missing him, since moping doesn't accomplish anything to fight evil. And ends "Good-bye, guys. I love you." And the book ends with an open-casket funeral, eulogy by Dumbledore, and Hermione looking at the body, thinking how handsome and peaceful and contented Harry looks, even with the old familiar messy hair and scar. Altho' it seems to me that they should have the funeral Before the graduation ceremony, so as to minimize the pall cast over the graduation. From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 11:46:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 07:46:00 -0400 Subject: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2798 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Reply To: [Yahoo! #2760] Re: Earth, Water, Air, Fire Date: 6/25/00 7:46 am (ET) although the elements are different and so you would think that they would cause discontent when they are mingled it is actually the opposite becase they balance each other out From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 12:11:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 08:11:00 -0400 Subject: festivals/elemental houses Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2799 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: festivals/elemental houses Reply To: [Yahoo! #2787] Elemental Houses Date: 6/25/00 8:11 am (ET) Of course the fact that they call them Easter Halloween and Christmas rather than Ostara, Samhain and Yule suggests that they are celebrating them as Christian festivals rather than pagan Festivals. As many of the students were muggle born they would not know the significance of the pagan festiavlas, only the christian ones From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 12:16:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 08:16:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Dying in Book 7 and other stuf Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2800 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 and other stuf Reply To: [Yahoo! #2793] Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Date: 6/25/00 8:16 am (ET) OK, I've heard some pretty drastic rumours about book seven and here they are: 1: Hogwarts is destroyed 2: Voldemort returnss to power 3: Harry IS told why V. wanted to kill him 4: Dumbledore dies 5: someone/thing kills the Dursleys 6: Voldemort turns out to be a relation of Harry's I'm not saying how true these are, although number three has been confirmed by JKR From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 12:22:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 08:22:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Dying in Book 7 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2801 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2797] Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Date: 6/25/00 8:22 am (ET) minor problems with theory here: Hogwarts is inthe UK and we don't have such a big celebration on Graduation day here as you do in the US. Harry wouldn't be taking finals, it would be A-levels if he was muggle and OWLS or NEWTS (I can't remember which is which) as a wizard! From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 12:39:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 08:39:00 -0400 Subject: Elemental Houses Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2802 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Elemental Houses Reply To: [Yahoo! #2787] Elemental Houses Date: 6/25/00 8:39 am (ET) > I Love JKR and Harry, but she's very Christian > writing about some very Pagan concepts Merry meet, Lady E-Merlin Jess! Blessed Be! I'm a Wiccan, too. I can't find anything Wiccan or Pagan in the HP books (I wish I could! -- I want to play in that universe, but I don't want to have to give up my religion while visiting there). JKR is just using the word 'witch' for a female magic user with no religious implication and 'wizard' for a male magic user with no implication of long study and scholarship -- my frpg friends would call magic users MUs or mages instead. The magic that they're using is not our Wiccan magic: you don't see them raising a Cone of Power and visualizing a goal or praying to the gods, instead you see them memorizing specific words or specific potion recipes. I am sure that the official religion at Hogwart's is some mild form of Anglican Christianity. So they celebrate Easter and Christmas, and Halloween is about scariness, and nutcase Sybille gets superstitious about 13 at table. Even of real magic (as distinguished from storybook magic), it doesn't have to be connected to any religion. Christians can do magic, completely secular people can do magic. The ancient alchemical theory of the Four Elements is not limited to any one religion: for example, it was the 'scientific' theory on which professional medicine was based until the 1700s, and the four elements can be linked to the Four Evangelists -- Man, Lion, Bull, Eagle. And, while we're at it, the color attributions of the Four Elements are completely arbitrary. The little 'atoms' or tiny particles of which Democritos hypothesized that all things are made have no color, just shapes: sharply pointed for fire atoms, ball-bearing round for water atoms. The colors just help us humans to tune our mind to that element. As I mentioned, Yellow Air, Blue Water, Red Fire, Green Earth works for me as well as for you, but if there is someone for whom it works to use Blue for Fire (blue-hot, name of nasty Aztec sun god Huitzilopochtli is 'Hummingbird-blue on the Left/South'), then he isn't Wrong, he's just using a symbolism that it will be hard for other people to share if they want to work with him. (Digression: Nahuatl has the same word mean 'south' and 'left'. Hebrew has the same word mean 'south' and 'right' -- Yemen, Bin-yamin.) JKR is using a Yellow Earth, Green Water, Blue Air, Red Fire symbolism which is used by several Wiccans whom I know, even tho' I don't like it.... Altho' I should be able to deal with Yellow Earth -- golden fields of grain, amber waves of grain -- here in Southern California, where much of extinct natural landscape was liveoak savannah, from April until the rains come again (as early as September, as late as February, maybe not at all), the land is covered with yellow-brown dried up grass and shrub. My late grandmother came from her home in New York to visit us in the summer and "I know why they call California the Golden State -- it's the color of all your rolling hills." From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 13:22:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 09:22:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Dying in Book 7 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2803 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2793] Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Date: 6/25/00 9:22 am (ET) To be quite morbid, and don't read if it offends you... "..and the way they identified Harry's body was by his scar..." Just a thought. Not that I want it to happen, but I am a Narnian too.... Dee From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 14:08:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 10:08:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Dying in Book 7 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2804 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2803] Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Date: 6/25/00 10:08 am (ET) Re: 'scar' being the last word... Dumbledore also has a scar - a perfect map of The London Undergound. Okay, the last word of book 7 is not likely to refer to that, but it might not refer to Harry's scar either. I hope that book 7 has a dramatic, shock ending, which leaves the reader feeling stunned and 9-12 years olds everywhere requiring trauma therapy. I can't bear to think of some cop-out 'happy' ending, where the main players sit around Dumbledore's office chuckling about the fact that they all nearly died, and taking it in turns to explain the plot for those who were too dumb to figure it out during the action (like those 'epilogue' scenes at the end of "Charlie's Angels"). Anyway, that's my, er, feelings... Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 14:17:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 10:17:00 -0400 Subject: Covers from around the world Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2805 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Covers from around the world Reply To: [Yahoo! #2761] Re: Covers from around the world Date: 6/25/00 10:17 am (ET) "Actually...just curious...does anyone know if Mary GrandPre's illustrations will be used will all the books worldwide, or just the American version?" Well... take a look at the Photos section of this club! Unless Mary GrandPre has multiple personalities - all of them book illustrators - I'd say she's US-only (although the US covers seem to have been used in a few other countries). In most countries the artwork (and artists) are different and, as I posted earlier in relation to the UK books, not necessarily the same from book to book. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 14:30:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 10:30:00 -0400 Subject: CD listening - UK/US words Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2806 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: CD listening - UK/US words Reply To: [Yahoo! #2780] Re: CD listening - UK/US words Date: 6/25/00 10:30 am (ET) "They hired an Americanizer to read the pre-galleys ('manuscripts' doesn't sound right) and mark down the changes. She was interviewed on NPR..." Thanks for that info, Catlady, and excuse my ignorance, but what's NPR? I'm intrigued by the idea of one person making such decisions, especially if she missed the meaning of 'humbug'. I suppose, the Americanisation is not that different to any other sort of translation, it just seems more irritating! Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 14:47:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 10:47:00 -0400 Subject: Kids Interview Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2807 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Kids Interview Reply To: [Yahoo! #2785] Kids Interview Date: 6/25/00 10:47 am (ET) Thanks for posting that interview Danemead. There are quite a few things in there I hadn't read before. A couple of things (no spoiling here): ***I think it was Nick who said JK Rowling doesn't own a computer, and we assume that she probably doesn't look at clubs like this one... BUT... she used ';)' and ':)' at the end of some of the answers, so, unless the web site put those in on her behalf, I'd say she knows a teensy bit about the internet. ***I read somewhere else that she might write a Harry Potter encyclopaedia when she's finished the series. She seems a bit undecided though. Neil From triner2001 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 16:07:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:07:00 -0400 Subject: CD listening - UK/US words Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2808 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: CD listening - UK/US words Reply To: [Yahoo! #2806] Re: CD listening - UK/US words Date: 6/25/00 12:07 pm (ET) >>What's the NPR?>> National Public Radio Public radio, like public tv requires listener and corporate donations to keep afloat. They don't do advertisements (ie McDonald's commercials) to raise revenue. Public tv tends to be more "highbrow" and educationl entertainment than regular cable tv. Trina From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 16:31:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:31:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2809 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Harry's Love Life Reply To: [Yahoo! #2794] Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/25/00 12:31 pm (ET) Here again, it's my feeling that Ron and Hermione will be the ones with the strong relationship. I have this little demon nagging at me that says that the hero's sidekick never gets the glory. Ron sees himself at Head Boy and Quidditch Captain in the Mirror of Erised -- he wants to stand out at school and prove himself as good or better than his brothers. But he finds himself instead as the best friend of the hero -- Harry, the youngest Quidditch Player; Harry, the vanquisher of Voldemort; Harry, who is singled out for special treatment by the wizarding world. Maybe Ron will find happiness and solace with Hermione, while Harry walks his lonely path through life (LOL! Getting carried away here now....). Let's hope the green-eyed monster of jealousy never bites Ron, the way it bit Peter Pettigrew. >>>>The only problem I am having with the fanfic [PoU] is that it is clouding my view of what will happen in the JKR books. It is making me look for signs that Ron will die etc... Simon <<<<< From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 16:57:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:57:00 -0400 Subject: READ - DRAGON GENIOUS STROKE reg, bk 4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2810 From: Carlsson79 Subject: READ - DRAGON GENIOUS STROKE reg, bk 4 Date: 6/25/00 12:57 pm (ET) Ragharding the Dragon on the book 4 cover, my friend has worked it out. I don't think Harry will have to fight it. See PoA, Owl Post again. I shall now read from the Holy book; 'And the Dementors?' said Dumbledore. 'They'll be removed from the school, I trust?' 'Oh yes, they'll have to go,' said Fudge, running his fingers through his hair distractedly through his hair. 'Never dreamed they'd attempt the kiss on an inocent boy... completely out of control... No, I'll have them packed off to Azkabahn tonight. Perhaps we should think about Dragons at the school entrance...' 'Hagrid would like that' said Dumbledore, with a swift smile at Harry and Hermione. I thin this explains it quite well - I am just annoyed that I didn't spot it myself. The Dragon picture is probably to throw off all of our guesses, or might not be as important as we think. Or maybe it is... But it could be a Hogwarts Dragon. Nicholas From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 17:38:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:38:00 -0400 Subject: Kids Interview Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2811 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Kids Interview Reply To: [Yahoo! #2795] Re: Kids Interview Date: 6/25/00 1:38 pm (ET) Well thank you for the address of that article, then! I wonder how many of us are on both harrypotteranonymous AND Harry Potter for Grownups? Seems like the traffic on one picks up as the traffic on the other slows down. At least the e-groups list doesn't have these Yahoo access problems (grrrr). From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 17:44:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:44:00 -0400 Subject: JKR and the Internet Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2812 From: ravenclawlady Subject: JKR and the Internet Reply To: [Yahoo! #2807] Re: Kids Interview Date: 6/25/00 1:44 pm (ET) "I'd say she knows a teensy bit about the internet." I don't know if it's true, but I've actually heard she visits Harry Potter websites once in awhile. I don't know about message boards, though. Melanie From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 17:45:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:45:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Dying in Book 7 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2813 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2797] Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Date: 6/25/00 1:45 pm (ET) >>>And the book ends with an open-casket funeral,...<<<< I don't know why, but by the time I finished reading this, I was giggling -- did you mean this to be tongue-in-cheek? Since JKR seems to be following a lot of historical fairy-tale fantasy conventions, perhaps we need only look to precedent for what will happen to Harry. Perhaps he will sail off to the "Land Beyond" with Dumbledore/Merlin, or go to wait in Valhalla until he is called to fight Evil again, or something equally mythical. That would leave the avenue open for future Harry books, in case JKR changes her mind and wants to continue the series. From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 17:49:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 13:49:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Dying in Book 7 and other stuf Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2814 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 and other stuf Reply To: [Yahoo! #2800] Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 and other stuf Date: 6/25/00 1:49 pm (ET) >>>6: Voldemort turns out to be a relation of Harry's<<<< This seems to be very likely. Harry and Tom Riddle resemble each other, with the black hair and the powers of Salazar Slytherin, and the potential to become powerful wizards. Could be.... From triner2001 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 18:07:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:07:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Dying in Book 7 and other stuf Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2815 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 and other stuf Reply To: [Yahoo! #2814] Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 and other stuf Date: 6/25/00 2:07 pm (ET) >>Harry and Tom Riddle resemble each other, with the black hair and the powers of Salazar Slytherin<< Ah, but remember, Dumbledore said "Unless I'm very much mistaken, he transferred some of his own powers to you the night he gave you that scar. Not something he intended to do, I'm sure..." Besides the evil-one-as-relation-to-good has been done. Does _Star Wars_ ring a bell? Personally, I hope it doesn't go down that particular road. I feel it's been over done. Trina From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 18:18:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:18:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Dying in Book 7 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2816 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2813] Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Date: 6/25/00 2:18 pm (ET) Hi: <>>>And the book ends with an open-casket funeral,...<<<< <<<I don't know why, but by the time I finished reading this, I was giggling -- did you mean this to be tongue-in-cheek?>>> I was too -- sorry Catlady if you meant it to be serious. A bit melodramatic. <g> Plus, I'd be willing to bet that open casket funerals are a uniquely American thing. Perhaps our UK friends can confirm this. I just don't see Harry dying at the end of the series. I think Dumbledore is teaching him things bit by bit to help in what will be a large confrontation between good & evil at the end of Book 7, but I don't think Harry will perish in the battle. I think important people will die along the way (and of course JKR has all but said this as she said the books will get darker). My bet is that Hagrid dies in Book 6 or 7 and that Dumbledore will die in Book 7. I really don't imagine any of the main 3 dying though (perhaps it's my pollyanna world view again) -- not even Ron (as in PoU). But, if Harry does die at the end of the series, I will likely gloat forever at the vindication of my Christian allegory theory. <g> Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 18:32:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:32:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2817 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Harry's Love Life Reply To: [Yahoo! #2794] Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/25/00 2:32 pm (ET) Hi: <<<<<"The two of them start out by irritating each other to the point of exasperation. They get on each other's nerves. They may even hate each other at times. Which means that they are Doomed, according to Hollywood and classic romantic tradition, to Fall In Love.">>> <<<<<This has always been my impression of Hermione and Ron. They are there to support Harry and as such I could not see it working if Hermione was Harry's girlfriend.>>>> I agree that JKR has put in place the classic set up for Ron & Hermione to date. I think they will date. I *don't*, however, think that they will be each other's Mr. or Ms. Right. And I stand by my position that the jury is still out on what *her* feelings are anyway. Pretty clear from PoA that Ron will eventually fall for her. And, they bicker back & forth alot so they could eventually be destined to date each other. That certainly does happen alot in books & movies. But, teenage girls who bicker and argue with a young boy are not *always* in love with him. <g> Sometimes, they have their eye on someone else entirely. And, a Ron & Hermione dating relationship at some point stil doesn't rule out the possibilities for her true feelings to still be for Harry, betrayal, etc. And, as for Ron being the sidekick who gets overshadowed alot by his brothers and then by Harry and maybe getting Hermione evens things out a bit for Ron -- well, maybe. But, maybe, the trend of Harry getting it all continues. JKR has said someone will betray Harry at some point, and despite the good Neville theories, I think there are some interesting possibilities with Ron, the most obvious being with regard to Hermione. I promise I'm going to try & quit posting on this topic -- really. I swear. At least until Book 4 comes out -- maybe it will answer *some* of our questions. Penny From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 18:54:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 14:54:00 -0400 Subject: Caskets Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2818 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Caskets Reply To: [Yahoo! #2816] Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Date: 6/25/00 2:54 pm (ET) "Plus, I'd be willing to bet that open casket funerals are a uniquely American thing. Perhaps our UK friends can confirm this." It depends what you mean - is the casket left open during the ceremony? That seems a bit gross. Thankfully, I haven't made a habit of attending funerals, but in most cases I believe the lid of the coffin (we don't call them caskets) is firmly on during the service. This applies for burials and cremations (at least those I've attended). Some religions have a viewing of the body in a Chapel of Rest, or similar, or even in the home of the relatives, before the funeral service. Actually, maybe that's down to personal choice, but I've never experienced it. I like Catlady's lively imagination though! Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 19:00:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:00:00 -0400 Subject: Kids Interview Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2819 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Kids Interview Reply To: [Yahoo! #2811] Re: Kids Interview Date: 6/25/00 3:00 pm (ET) "I wonder how many of us are on both harrypotteranonymous AND Harry Potter for Grownups?" I'm only in this HP group, but I'd be interested to know how to get into harrypotteranonymous if people are flitting from one to the other. Neil - who thinks he might be missing something From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 19:43:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:43:00 -0400 Subject: Kids Interview for grown-ups Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2820 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Kids Interview for grown-ups Reply To: [Yahoo! #2807] Re: Kids Interview Date: 6/25/00 3:43 pm (ET) > I read somewhere else that she might write a > Harry Potter encyclopaedia when she's finished > the series. Oh, yes, *please*, I hope she does -- and that it really is an Encyclopedia, not just a fancordance summarzing the info that is in the books. I want to know about the magic economy, food, marriage and divorce laws .... >From reading the actual books, not fanfic, I got the impression that there is no divorce among magic folk, and that both Tom Riddle and Neville Longbottom were cases in which the magic woman ('witch') married a Muggle man, he broke up with her, and therefore she died of a broken heart. So I thought maybe that when magic folk wed, they not only exchange vows and rings, but each puts a spell on him/her/self, a spell of love until death do them part to the other. So the Magic follk really do stay married until death do them part, but the Muggle spouse would only be saying words rather than enspelling him/her/self, so the Muggle spouse would be free to divorce or desert, which would cause the action of the spell the magic spouse cast on him/her/self to make him/her die of a broken heart from the loss. However, if magic folk can't divorce, I can't turn a three-time loser I met at work into a comic character in the fanfic I hope to write someday. I said something about wizard money 'which probably does grow on trees. Very heavily guarded trees.' and my friend immediately decided that when a wizard couple marries, they are given a money tree. When they first plant it, it is young and bears only a small crop, just enough for two healthy young people with a very economical lifestyle, but it grows quickly, in less than ten years it is full-grown and bears enough to support a family of four at a rather middle-class level. But it does not bear enough to support a family of seven, which is why the Weaseleys are so poor. And the couple's money tree dies if they divorce, which is a strong motivator for couples to stay together. Otherwise it lives until both spouses have died. From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 19:46:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:46:00 -0400 Subject: Ron (was: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2821 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Ron (was: Harry's Love Life Reply To: [Yahoo! #2809] Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/25/00 3:46 pm (ET) > I have this little demon nagging at me that says > that the hero's sidekick never gets the glory. > Ron sees himself at Head Boy and Quidditch > Captain in the Mirror of Erised -- he wants to > stand out at school and prove himself as good > or better than his brothers. That's why I think it would not be such a bad thing if *Ron* were the one to die Heroically in Book Four: death itself would be something he was the first Weaseley brother to do, and dying heroically would be a bigger accomplishment than any of them had committed yet. Other than that, the only way he can accomplish some great thing that none of his brothers did first before leaving school is if he became a poet, musician, or artist: fields none of the brothers got into. From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 19:48:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:48:00 -0400 Subject: Kids Interview Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2822 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Kids Interview Reply To: [Yahoo! #2811] Re: Kids Interview Date: 6/25/00 3:48 pm (ET) > At least the e-groups list doesn't have these Yahoo access problems (grrrr). I always choose to read the postings by Web rather than e-mail, and Yahoo has access problems, but e-groups has five to six beeping (not a typo for bleeping) cookies I have to reject Every Time I go from one page to another! From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 19:51:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:51:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Dying in Book 7 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2823 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2813] Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 Date: 6/25/00 3:51 pm (ET) > I don't know why, but by the time I finished > reading this, I was giggling -- did you mean > this to be tongue-in-cheek? That's, okay, everybody, I did mean it to be tongue-in-cheek. A little cynical humor is a way to reduce the pain of strong emotions. Also, my only expection for what JKR will really do in the real series is she will surprise me! From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 19:56:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:56:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Dying in Book 7 and other stuf Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2824 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 and other stuf Reply To: [Yahoo! #2814] Re: Harry Dying in Book 7 and other stuf Date: 6/25/00 3:56 pm (ET) > This seems to be very likely. Harry and Tom > Riddle resemble each other, with the black hair > and the powers of Salazar Slytherin, and the > potential to become powerful wizards. Muggle-born Lily Potter could have been a descendent of Muggle Tom Riddle, Sr. Mrs Tom Riddle could have been a Potter before she married. JKR could just have a Thing about messy black hair. On Harry and James and all those Potters in the Mirror of Erised. On Tom Riddle. On Sirius Black. And on Snape, altho' his is called 'greasy'. I am a little bit bothered by the physical description of Snape: greasy black hair, big hook nose, sallow skin ... it sounds like an anti-Semite's image of a Jew, like Shakespeare's Shylock. From hedwig_22 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 19:58:00 2000 From: hedwig_22 at yahoo.com (hedwig_22) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:58:00 -0400 Subject: Ron (was: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2825 From: hedwig_22 Subject: Re: Ron (was: Harry's Love Life Reply To: [Yahoo! #2821] Re: Ron (was: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/25/00 3:58 pm (ET) I agree with most of your theories, but hope that they are very wrong. Ron is one of my most favorite cahracters and do not wish to have him die. It will be very heart-braeking indeed. I am also hearing Harry will die in the 7th book! I'm sure the Dursley's will be more than happy but I will certainly not be! From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 19:59:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:59:00 -0400 Subject: Caskets Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2826 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Caskets Reply To: [Yahoo! #2818] Re: Caskets Date: 6/25/00 3:59 pm (ET) > I like Catlady's lively imagination though! Thank you! I love compliments. From Danemead at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 19:59:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 15:59:00 -0400 Subject: Harrypotteranonymous Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2827 From: Danemead Subject: Harrypotteranonymous Reply To: [Yahoo! #2819] Re: Kids Interview Date: 6/25/00 3:59 pm (ET) The home page for this group is http://www.egroups.com/group/harrypotteranonymous From hedwig_22 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 20:02:00 2000 From: hedwig_22 at yahoo.com (hedwig_22) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:02:00 -0400 Subject: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2828 From: hedwig_22 Subject: Re: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2788] Re: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Date: 6/25/00 4:02 pm (ET) I have to disagree. JKR doesn't seem to bve the type of author who would kill any of her characters. I'm not sure if I really mean that or if I just don't want that to happen From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 20:04:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:04:00 -0400 Subject: e-groups (was: Kids Interview Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2829 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: e-groups (was: Kids Interview Reply To: [Yahoo! #2819] Re: Kids Interview Date: 6/25/00 4:04 pm (ET) It's http://www.egroups.com/group/harrypotteranonymous From hedwig_22 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 20:06:00 2000 From: hedwig_22 at yahoo.com (hedwig_22) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:06:00 -0400 Subject: Death of Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2830 From: hedwig_22 Subject: Re: Death of Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2781] Death of Harry Date: 6/25/00 4:06 pm (ET) Christine- The movie would be a disaster! But like I've said before (many times) I don't think JKR is an author to kill ANY of her characters. (especially Harry) From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 20:19:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:19:00 -0400 Subject: Ron Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2831 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Ron Reply To: [Yahoo! #2809] Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/25/00 4:19 pm (ET) "Let's hope the green-eyed monster of jealousy never bites Ron, the way it bit Peter Pettigrew." I cannot see this happening. Ron brings a lot to the trio. He is also very intelligent, this is shown by his ability at chess. Peter however always hung around with those more powerful than him! Simon From pt4ever at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 20:23:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:23:00 -0400 Subject: Death of Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2832 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Death of Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2830] Re: Death of Harry Date: 6/25/00 4:23 pm (ET) I can't see Harry being killed either. I mean, even if his death was a heroic one, it would still be incredibly depressing. I can see why JKR is killing off a well-liked character in book 4, though -- she wants to show kids that evil is a terrible thing that causes only anguish and heartache, even though a lot of people are prone to think, "Oh, nothing will ever happen to the people I love." And while killing Harry would prove this point too, I don't think it's going to happen. At least, I hope not! Besides, all of the books have been told, more or less, from Harry's point-of-view. If he's killed, what's gonna happen in the chapters after his death? Whoa. I'm getting philosophical. Maybe it's because it's raining. :) I still don't think Harry will die. I just have a hunch. And I don't think Voldemort will end up being related to Harry, unless James is somehow a descendant of Tom Riddle's father's second wife, and he's bent on revenge. (It could be Lily, but then why would Voldemort not care about killing her? It's made clear in books 1, 2, and 3 that Voldemort only killed Lily 'cause she was trying to save Harry.) Anyway, that's my opinion. I hope it's not Ron who dies...he's one of my favorite characters! -- JoAnna From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 20:26:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:26:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2833 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry's Love Life Reply To: [Yahoo! #2817] Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/25/00 4:26 pm (ET) "And, as for Ron being the sidekick who gets overshadowed alot by his brothers and then by Harry and maybe getting Hermione evens things out a bit for Ron -- well, maybe. But, maybe, the trend of Harry getting it all continues. JKR has said someone will betray Harry at some point, and despite the good Neville theories, I think there are some interesting possibilities with Ron, the most obvious being with regard to Hermione." I get the impression from what I have read that Ron sees himself as needed by Harry. This is evident at the beginning when Harry has not got a clue about the wizard world. This couldchange and this then may leave Ron feeling left out which could make him turn towards betraying Harry. Simon From polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 20:34:00 2000 From: polgara_sorceress_the at yahoo.com (polgara_sorceress_the) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:34:00 -0400 Subject: Death of Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2834 From: polgara_sorceress_the Subject: Re: Death of Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2832] Re: Death of Harry Date: 6/25/00 4:34 pm (ET) ...but JKR has said that her books will get darker and darker and darker.....you can't really get worse that killing off the hero of the book can you? From pt4ever at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 20:37:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:37:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2835 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Harry's Love Life Reply To: [Yahoo! #2833] Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/25/00 4:37 pm (ET) >>> I get the impression from what I have read that Ron sees himself as needed by Harry. This is evident at the beginning when Harry has not got a clue about the wizard world. This couldchange and this then may leave Ron feeling left out which could make him turn towards betraying Harry. >>> Perhaps, at some point, Harry and Hermione begin a relationship, and Ron feels left out and lonely, much like Hermione did in PoA when Ron was furious with her about Crookshanks and Scabbers. Really, though, these three are such good friends that I can't see any of them betraying the other. Besides, Ron comes from a wizarding family that absolutely despises Dark Magic, and I just can't see him crossing to the Dark Side, even due to jealousy. -- JoAnna From pt4ever at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 20:42:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 16:42:00 -0400 Subject: Spanish book cover Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2836 From: pt4ever Subject: Spanish book cover Date: 6/25/00 4:42 pm (ET) I just posted the front and back cover of the Spanish version I have of "Philosopher's Stone" in the second "books around the world" photo album. Since the cover is different than the Spain version Skimmel_98 posted, I assumed that it was printed in Mexico, Central America, and/or South America, but according to the copyright page it was printed in Spain. I've read a bit of it and the language is definitely a Mexican/Central American/South American dialect rather than a Spanish one -- there are certain differences, such as verb endings and the usage of "y" rather than "i" (both mean "and," although "i" is more commonly used in Spain and "y" is used mainly in Mexico, Central America, and South America.) Man, I sound like I know what I'm talking about, don't I??? :) -- JoAnna From hert0661 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 21:18:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 17:18:00 -0400 Subject: Harry's Love Life Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2837 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry's Love Life Reply To: [Yahoo! #2835] Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/25/00 5:18 pm (ET) "Ron comes from a wizarding family that absolutely despises Dark Magic, and I just can't see him crossing to the Dark Side, even due to jealousy." Ginny was taken in by Riddle's diary. Maybe Ron could be similarly affected by something. I do however suspect that he has more common sense than that girl! This could however be a source of family shame that one of the kids ends up turning to 'the dark side' (sorry if that sounds to much like Star Wars). Simon From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 22:08:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:08:00 -0400 Subject: JKR and the Internet Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2838 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: Re: JKR and the Internet Reply To: [Yahoo! #2812] JKR and the Internet Date: 6/25/00 6:08 pm (ET) I just read in the Barnes & Noble chat transcript that she in fact discovered the sites dedicated to Harry and it was like "Christmas in August". So, she is definitely aware of what is going on out there. Figuring out newsgroups, however, is a little more complicated I think for the casual surfer. Hagrid http://www.hagridshut.com From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 22:12:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:12:00 -0400 Subject: Death of Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2839 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: Re: Death of Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2834] Re: Death of Harry Date: 6/25/00 6:12 pm (ET) Well...here is what the author has to say about it in answering a question from some blubberer begging her to continue the books past 7: JR: So you're convinced I'm not going to kill Harry??!! I try never to say never, because it seems that every time I do I end up by doing the thing I've forsworn. So, there is a remote possibility that there will another Harry book, but at the present time I am planning only seven. There yeh have it. Hagrid http://www.hagridshut.com From trackgirl16 at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 22:27:00 2000 From: trackgirl16 at yahoo.com (trackgirl16) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 18:27:00 -0400 Subject: Death of Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2840 From: trackgirl16 Subject: Re: Death of Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2834] Re: Death of Harry Date: 6/25/00 6:27 pm (ET) I think that I'll be positively devastated if either Ron or Harry dies! These books are my escape, my assurance that evil never triumphs, my picture of a more utopian society. I've got a whole collection of classics to brood over if I want a brutally realistic picture of life. Which, as an incurable optimist, I don't! Kris From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Sun Jun 25 23:31:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 19:31:00 -0400 Subject: Oliver Wood Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2841 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Oliver Wood Date: 6/25/00 7:31 pm (ET) (wood from an olive tree) In the books, I like him, a nice, sincere, committed guy. If I knew him in person, I would quite dislike him. If we were in a class together, one day after class I would be talking about something in the lesson that interested me, and he would be bored and change the subject to Quidditch and I would say: "For God's sake, don't you Ever think about Anything but Quidditch??" And he would say: "I don't know why you waste your brain on that nurd stuff that isn't any use for anything, unless you're trying to be a teacher's pet." I'd say: "Because it is such a nice distraction from useful things that are so depressing. Like global warming. The Muggles are ruining the climate so there'll be lots more hurricanes and droughts and floods, and it's not fair, their hurricanes and droughts and floods hit us, too. My mother is working with some expert weather witches and wizards to develop ways to fix the climate -- that's useful, right?" Him: "That global warming thing is just a big lie invented by some Muggle scientists to fool the other Muggles into giving them money to fix it. I can't believe that any of us, even a fat witch, would be stupid enough to believe a Muggle lie." From rainbow_smileys at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 02:52:00 2000 From: rainbow_smileys at yahoo.com (rainbow_smileys) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 22:52:00 -0400 Subject: Some more annoying POA Questions... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2842 From: rainbow_smileys Subject: Re: Some more annoying POA Questions... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2622] Some more annoying POA Questions... Date: 6/25/00 10:52 pm (ET) Actually, J.K. Rowling said in an interview that Harry Potter will, like everyone else, fall in love in book 4 (which, no matter how many times you hear it, will NOT be called Harry Potter and the Doomspell Tournament). Or, as she says, 'he will find his hormones.' She also went on to say that he will fall in love with the wrong person and that 'careful readers of book 3 will already know who that girl is.' And, just for the record, I DID read book 3 VERY carefully, and I happen to know that he will fall in love with Cho Chang. From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 03:25:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:25:00 -0400 Subject: Hogwarts Alumni Under the Bed Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2843 From: davehoz Subject: Hogwarts Alumni Under the Bed Reply To: [Yahoo! #2802] Re: Elemental Houses Date: 6/25/00 11:25 pm (ET) FWIW, I was leafing through some Wicca books in Borders the other day and I didn't see anything "evil" in them! I found it quite intreguing, actually. (I've also always been fascinated by Druidism.) The problem with Fundamentalists is that they're *so* afraid of people with views different from them that they look for evil where it isn't. Joe McCarthy lives on! From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 03:30:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2000 23:30:00 -0400 Subject: Kids Interview Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2844 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Kids Interview Reply To: [Yahoo! #2807] Re: Kids Interview Date: 6/25/00 11:30 pm (ET) IMHO it doesn't follow that JKR doesn't use the Internet just because she doesn't own a computer. She could use a friend's, or maybe she frequents Internet Caf's... From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 04:49:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:49:00 -0400 Subject: Kids Interview Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2845 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Kids Interview Reply To: [Yahoo! #2844] Re: Kids Interview Date: 6/26/00 12:49 am (ET) >>>IMHO it doesn't follow that JKR doesn't use the Internet just because she doesn't own a computer. She could use a friend's, or maybe she frequents Internet Caf's... <<< And we all know how much she loves cafes! Jen (who's too lazy to look for her accented 'e') From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 04:51:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:51:00 -0400 Subject: Hogwarts Alumni Under the Bed Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2846 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Re: Hogwarts Alumni Under the Bed Reply To: [Yahoo! #2843] Hogwarts Alumni Under the Bed Date: 6/26/00 12:51 am (ET) Well, you know those whacky Fundamentalists. Heck, even my Christian friends and myself get driven batty by these people! In addition to being a general pain in the arse, they really seem to love to misrepresent a religion based on love and kindness. I have some Wiccan friends myself, and it's always best to be able to respect other's beliefs, as long as they aren't harming others while doing it. A lot in their faith makes a lot of sense, and I gave it a lot of thought when coming to terms with my own spiritual beliefs. Even though I am a Christian myself, I'd say there's a lot to be learned from their ways. Best to research things yourself and see what makes the most sense to you. Besides, I feel that we are all worshipping the same power anyways - all those who believe in a greater being of love and kindness anyways. Call it God, Goddess, Great Spirit, Holy Rutebega In The Sky, or what have you. Just my feelings on that one. Jarnor23 From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 04:58:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 00:58:00 -0400 Subject: Title/cover US book 4... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2847 From: jenP_97 Subject: Title/cover US book 4... Date: 6/26/00 12:58 am (ET) Well, if you haven't seen it already, www.harrypotterfans.net has a scan of the "cover" of book 4 - plus an explanation of how Jenna got the "news". I'm still not sure if it's authentic, but I'm going to say "what the hell, they're probably all ready to ship them anyway, it's probably real" and shrug my shoulders and just wait for the next 12 days to go by uneventfully. Here's the link to the possible cover: http://www.geocities.com/harrypotterfans/book4uscov.html Looks like it's not going to be CoF after all. ;) Jen From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 05:05:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:05:00 -0400 Subject: Title/cover US book 4... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2848 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Re: Title/cover US book 4... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2847] Title/cover US book 4... Date: 6/26/00 1:05 am (ET) That's the same pic as Amazon's version...so it's prolly (personal shortening for probably, get used to it, not changing that one!) going to stay the same. The title, though....winks. who knows. Dee From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 05:14:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 01:14:00 -0400 Subject: Spanish book cover Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2849 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Spanish book cover Reply To: [Yahoo! #2836] Spanish book cover Date: 6/26/00 1:14 am (ET) >>>>Since the cover is different than the Spain version Skimmel_98 posted, I assumed that it was printed in Mexico, Central America, and/or South America, but according to the copyright page it was printed in Spain. I've read a bit of it and the language is definitely a Mexican/Central American/South American dialect rather than a Spanish one -- there are certain differences, such as verb endings and the usage of "y" rather than "i" (both mean "and," although "i" is more commonly used in Spain and "y" is used mainly in Mexico, Central America, and South America. I have to disagree with you. The cover that Skimmel posted is from the Catalan edition. Catalan is a spoken in parts of Spain, but it is a distinctly different language than what English speakers call *Spanish*, which in Spain and a lot of Latin America is called Castilliano. Hence, the Catalan edition was printed in Spain, but the language is NOT Spanish. The word *i* is not a Spanish word, it is the Catalan equivalent of the Spanish word *y*. I have the same Spanish edition that you have (judging by the cover) and IMO the translation was definitely done in Spain -- it uses words that seem particular to Spain rather than Latin America. For example, Dudley plays computer games on an *ordenador*, whereas in Latin America he would use a *computadora*. The characters also use the verb forms for *vosotros* instead of *ustedes* for the second person plural, which is typical of Spain. These things are a giveaway that it is a European dialect, just like English language books which use words like torch and lift are likely to be from England, especially if the characters are eating steak and kidney pie. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 06:43:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:43:00 -0400 Subject: JK and computers... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2850 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: JK and computers... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2844] Re: Kids Interview Date: 6/26/00 2:43 am (ET) "IMHO it doesn't follow that JKR doesn't use the Internet just because she doesn't own a computer. She could use a friend's, or maybe she frequents Internet Caf's... " True enough. It's that because she is said not to own a computer it's been suggested that she wouldn't check out HP clubs/web sites. The use of :) etc suggests that she does access the internet (as you say, probably elsewhere). Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 09:27:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 05:27:00 -0400 Subject: Title/cover US book 4... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2851 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Title/cover US book 4... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2847] Title/cover US book 4... Date: 6/26/00 5:27 am (ET) When I refer to book 4 cover I mean the one on Jenna's site. I will be talking about the USA book covers. http://www.geocities.com/harrypotterfans/book4uscov.html I have been looking at that cover and the USA covers for the first three books. If I remember correctly they are all meant to be by the same artist. Yet, IMHO, the style of the book 4 cover is different. In the first three books have covers in which Harry is doing something. Riding a broomstick on the first, Fawkes giving him a lift for Cos and on a Hippogriff for PoA. However the cover for book 4 has him standing still. The first three covers are also very uncrowded (2 people at most and plenty of background visible). However book 4 has lots of people in it and little background. Also the positioning of the title in the first three has been innovative as it is placed anywhere and in any direction on the picture. Seemingly as part of the scenery. For book four it is placed on top of the picture just under Harry Potter. It is also not in the centre which if the title is to be placed there seems necessary. I think that the picture was done by someone else as a promotion for Harry Potter, it has been around for ages and being used to advertise book 4 in many places. Then someone has taken this and one of the suggested titles and combined the two and posted it to the web saying it is the cover. Whether the title is right is a different. It may be the correct title but we do not yet know! CoF or GoF then I would have to say I would prefer CoF. I am more convinced by the UK book cover as I would be more likely to trust the source from where it cameand the style is similar to previous books. As of yet I have heard no satisfactory accounts of where this cover came from which is why I suspect it to be a fake. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 10:36:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:36:00 -0400 Subject: Title/cover US book 4... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2852 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Title/cover US book 4... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2851] Re: Title/cover US book 4... Date: 6/26/00 6:36 am (ET) I agree that the US cover on Jenna's site looks like a 'best guess' mock-up and doesn't look like much like Mary GrandPre's other work. I hope also hope GoF isn't the title... I'm inclined to think that the UK cover is also a fake. It looks far too 'mythical' to me - like the Danish covers. If it is a fake though, someone has made a good job of it. The covers/title have been so closely guarded that I cannot believe they would have leaked so soon. But, we shall see...! Neil From babynick34 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 10:41:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 06:41:00 -0400 Subject: Kids Interview Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2853 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Kids Interview Reply To: [Yahoo! #2807] Re: Kids Interview Date: 6/26/00 6:41 am (ET) Hi All >I think it was Nick who said JK Rowling doesn't own a computer, Nope not me... but I did mention that she does not write the books on a computer, and does not write letters on a computer. She prefers using pen and paper for writing. Nick. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 11:40:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 07:40:00 -0400 Subject: Title/cover US book 4... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2854 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Title/cover US book 4... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2852] Re: Title/cover US book 4... Date: 6/26/00 7:40 am (ET) "I'm inclined to think that the UK cover is also a fake. It looks far too 'mythical' to me - like the Danish covers. If it is a fake though, someone has made a good job of it." I believe the artist is a different one than to the one that did PS and CoS. To me the cover looks of a similar style to PoA. That also had a mythical feel to it. Whereas the first two where more colourful and like covers of children's books. Maybe this change is reflecting the change in age that the books are aimed at. "The covers/title have been so closely guarded that I cannot believe they would have leaked so soon. But, we shall see...!" I would also believe this but it was Newsround that posted the book cover. They apparantly got it from the publishers and I see no reason why they would be lying. Also I would be surprised if they did not have permission from Bloomsbury to show the cover and I would be sure they would not risk upsetting JKR as they have had some exclusive interviews in the past. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 12:35:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:35:00 -0400 Subject: Title/cover US book 4... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2855 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Title/cover US book 4... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2854] Re: Title/cover US book 4... Date: 6/26/00 8:35 am (ET) "Whereas the first two where more colourful and like covers of children's books. Maybe this change is reflecting the change in age that the books are aimed at." Yes, you could be right. The same artist did CoS and PoA, whereas Book 1 was done by a completely different one (see my earlier post on that). As covers, I don't think any of them were anything to write home about - all suggested children's books. I have no doubt that the mighty "Newsround" has got a scoop here! And the cover looks like one of those 1950s scifi mags - you know "Astounding Stories for Boys" - that sort of thing. Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 12:35:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 08:35:00 -0400 Subject: UK book 4... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2856 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: UK book 4... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2855] Re: Title/cover US book 4... Date: 6/26/00 8:35 am (ET) Yes, sorry. We were talking about the UK covers... From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 13:38:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 09:38:00 -0400 Subject: Title/cover US book 4... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2857 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Title/cover US book 4... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2847] Title/cover US book 4... Date: 6/26/00 9:38 am (ET) > Looks like it's not going to be CoF after all. Maybe JKR named it Chalice of Fire (or Of Flame) and the American publisher changed it to Goblet in fear that Americans don't know the word chalice (altho' The chalice from the palace was in COURT JESTER) When a hintster popped up and said CoF, how Unitarian, I guessed Chalice of Flaming, since the symbol of UUA (Unitarian Universalist Association) is the Flaming Chalice. From schlaggen at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 14:28:00 2000 From: schlaggen at yahoo.com (schlaggen) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:28:00 -0400 Subject: Title/cover US book 4... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2858 From: schlaggen Subject: Re: Title/cover US book 4... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2854] Re: Title/cover US book 4... Date: 6/26/00 10:28 am (ET) These "covers" both come from the images used on amazon.com and amazon.co.uk They didn't even bother to slap a title on the UK picture. It just says "Harry Potter and the. I suppose that Scholastic changed it because they didn't think American kids would know what " " was. Also, the US cover is *not* done by Ms. Grandpre, and I cannot see them using someone else unless she was sick or dead. From yrbecca_call at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 14:37:00 2000 From: yrbecca_call at yahoo.com (yrbecca_call) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:37:00 -0400 Subject: COF and Gof Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2859 From: yrbecca_call Subject: COF and Gof Date: 6/26/00 10:37 am (ET) Hmmm Interesting twist here. I have seen the Title page, (not the cover) and it is COF, however in the text, the item in question is indeed called the Goblet of Flame. Interesting. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 14:48:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:48:00 -0400 Subject: PLEASE USE SPOILERS Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2860 From: plinsenmayer Subject: PLEASE USE SPOILERS Reply To: [Yahoo! #2859] COF and Gof Date: 6/26/00 10:48 am (ET) Hi: Another friendly reminder to please, please remember to use spoilers. The following definitely had need of a spoiler warning in my mind -- especially since you're intimating that you're not just conjecturing. <g> Spoilers!!! Let's all agree to use them please. <<<Hmmm Interesting twist here. I have seen the Title page, (not the cover) and it is COF, however in the text, the item in question is indeed called the Goblet of Flame. Interesting.>>>> Penny From CarverWB at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 14:58:00 2000 From: CarverWB at yahoo.com (CarverWB) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 10:58:00 -0400 Subject: Title/cover US book 4... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2861 From: CarverWB Subject: Re: Title/cover US book 4... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2857] Re: Title/cover US book 4... Date: 6/26/00 10:58 am (ET) <<Maybe JKR named it Chalice of Fire (or Of Flame) and the American publisher changed it to Goblet in fear that Americans don't know the word chalice>> I would think the word chalice gets more use here in US than 'goblet'. I was tempted to say "whats a goblet, a young turkey?" From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 15:33:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:33:00 -0400 Subject: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2862 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2861] Re: Title/cover US book 4... Date: 6/26/00 11:33 am (ET) Please note the following contains some possible spoilers for book 4. It is more stuff about the title. So be warned and do not read any further if you want to avoid such comments! <I would think the word chalice gets more use here in US than 'goblet'. I was tempted to say "whats a goblet, a young turkey?"> The word goblet has come up before in the book, or at least the UK versions. In PS 'Malfoy was banging his goblet on the table'. This was when Slytherin had 'won' the house cup just before Dumbledore announced the extra pointes for Harry and others. I believe their are other similar references in the books. Having said that I always think of turkey when the word goblet comes up! The following are dictionary definitions of the two words (www.dictionary.com as I can't remember the OED website address!) Goblet: 1) A drinking vessel, such as a glass, that has a stem and base. 2) Archaic. A drinking bowl without handles. Chalice: 1) A cup or goblet. 2) A cup for the consecrated wine of the Eucharist. The bottom one would be more likely to upset Church people if we are to go with the comment that has been made a few times. Simon From vikar25 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 15:47:00 2000 From: vikar25 at yahoo.com (vikar25) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 11:47:00 -0400 Subject: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2863 From: vikar25 Subject: Re: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2862] Re: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Date: 6/26/00 11:47 am (ET) Simon, To quote one of my favorite Danny Kaye movies, "The vessel with the pessel has the pellet with the poison, The Chalice with the palace has the brew that is true." The chalice broke. Now, "The vessel witht he pessel has the pellet with the poison, the flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true." Enough about goblets and chalices. I can't wait until July 8th. Regards, Vikar25 From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 16:17:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:17:00 -0400 Subject: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2864 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2863] Re: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Date: 6/26/00 12:17 pm (ET) >>>To quote one of my favorite Danny Kaye movies, "The vessel with the pessel has the pellet with the poison, The Chalice with the palace has the brew that is true." The chalice broke. Now, "The vessel witht he pessel has the pellet with the poison, the flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true." I remember that bit...what is the name of that movie? Is it The Inspector General, or something like that? From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 16:20:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:20:00 -0400 Subject: Kids Interview Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2865 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Kids Interview Reply To: [Yahoo! #2845] Re: Kids Interview Date: 6/26/00 12:20 pm (ET) >>>IMHO it doesn't follow that JKR doesn't use the Internet just because she doesn't own a computer. She could use a friend's, or maybe she frequents Internet Caf's... <<< I find it hard to believe that someone who made $40 million last year does not own a computer. I also dont recall ever reading anything like that anywhere. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 17:02:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:02:00 -0400 Subject: Title of Book 4 (spoilers on title) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2866 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Title of Book 4 (spoilers on title) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2862] Re: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Date: 6/26/00 1:02 pm (ET) Please note the following contains some possible spoilers for book 4. It is more stuff about the title. So be warned and do not read any further if you want to avoid such comments! The Telegraph (UK newspaper) reported yesterday that it will Be Harry Potter and the Goblet Of Fire, or something not a million miles from this. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/et?ac=003003265836112&rtmo=Qxp90xLR&atmo=99999999&pg= /et/00/6/25/npot25.html The above is the link to the story on the online version of the paper. It may work or it may require you to register withthem to view it! Simon (8 Days to go) PS: I think I probably should stop all this conjecturing and wait for the book to be released! From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 17:17:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:17:00 -0400 Subject: Title of Book 4 (spoilers on title) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2867 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Title of Book 4 (spoilers on title) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2866] Re: Title of Book 4 (spoilers on title) Date: 6/26/00 1:17 pm (ET) Please note the following contains some possible spoilers for book 4. It is more stuff about the title. So be warned and do not read any further if you want to avoid such comments! Perhaps GoF in the UK and CoF in the USA? "...of Fire" seems pretty certain now. Neil From brp13 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 17:24:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:24:00 -0400 Subject: Title/cover US book 4... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2868 From: brp13 Subject: Re: Title/cover US book 4... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2851] Re: Title/cover US book 4... Date: 6/26/00 1:24 pm (ET) I agree. It's far different... The title may be authentic, but I'm quite sure someone just faked the cover... From brp13 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 17:31:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 13:31:00 -0400 Subject: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2869 From: brp13 Subject: Re: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2771] Re: Harry and Hermione (and Ron) Date: 6/26/00 1:31 pm (ET) I thought I read somewhere that there was 8 books planned... I can't remember, I think it was in Times Magizine about a year or so ago, about the time the third one was released in the US. From brp13 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 18:05:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:05:00 -0400 Subject: PLEASE USE SPOILERS Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2870 From: brp13 Subject: Re: PLEASE USE SPOILERS Reply To: [Yahoo! #2860] PLEASE USE SPOILERS Date: 6/26/00 2:05 pm (ET) I still think that unless you have inside information spoiler notices aren't really needed... I personally think the UK cover was made because they didn't have a cover, and wanted something to put on online book stores. The US one may or may not be the case. The title might well be different from the US and UK. But until July 8th, when the book is released, or JKR actually agrees to release the information, or you have inside info, there is nothing certain. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 18:56:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 14:56:00 -0400 Subject: Spoilers and Book 4 Rumors Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2871 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Spoilers and Book 4 Rumors Date: 6/26/00 2:56 pm (ET) Hi: I agree that nothing about Book 4 will be known for certain until July 8th. However, there are people who would prefer to not even hear rumors, so I think it would be best to use Spoilers for anything related to Book 4 for now. I do not, however, think that we need to worry with putting spoiler warnings in with regard to Books 1-3. Just as it will, at some point, be appropriate to discontinue spoilers for Book 4, Books 1-3 are fair game in my book. For example, if someone reads the first book and enthusiastically joins internet HP discussion groups, then I think that person should already be aware that participating in those discussions may spoil their enjoyment of the later books. So, at some point, spoilers on Book 4 can go away. But, I think we'd be best off using them starting now -- even with regard to rumors (as that's all we have right now anyway). Penny From triner2001 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 19:11:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:11:00 -0400 Subject: Title of Book 4 (spoilers on title) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2872 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: Title of Book 4 (spoilers on title) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2867] Re: Title of Book 4 (spoilers on title) Date: 6/26/00 3:11 pm (ET) More stuff on titles. This is a spoiler alert! Please be aware of it! I also love _The Court Jester_ w/Danny Kaye! Here's my take: How stupid is it to have separate titles for the US and UK versions of the *same* book? I realize that the UK and the US are two countries separated by the same language, but 2 titles for the same book is ridiculous. Goblet or Chalice,(or vessel or flagon) it doesn't matter. Either way it's still a fancy cup! Trina From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 19:39:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:39:00 -0400 Subject: Title of Book 4 (spoilers on title) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2873 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Title of Book 4 (spoilers on title) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2872] Re: Title of Book 4 (spoilers on title) Date: 6/26/00 3:39 pm (ET) "Here's my take: How stupid is it to have separate titles for the US and UK versions of the *same* book?" Agreed, it would be quite stupid. And all this talk of receptacles makes me think we might all just be... MUGS. If I could also flog another dead horse, I still can't see why they had to change the title of "...Philosopher's Stone" (we have discussed it before, but would it have made *that* much difference if they'd left it?). Neil From pt4ever at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 19:41:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:41:00 -0400 Subject: Spanish book cover Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2874 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Spanish book cover Reply To: [Yahoo! #2849] Re: Spanish book cover Date: 6/26/00 3:41 pm (ET) If I'd have taken time to read more of the book, I'd probably had noticed the words you mentioned. :) However, I'm saving it for the 15-hour car ride I have on Friday. I *wish* book 4 would've been out in time for that trip!! Oh, well, I'll be listening to the CoS audiobook for the first time...that'll have to do... Thanks, joywitch! :) -- JoAnna From pt4ever at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 19:49:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:49:00 -0400 Subject: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2875 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2862] Re: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Date: 6/26/00 3:49 pm (ET) Please note the following contains some possible spoilers for book 4. It is more stuff about the title. So be warned and do not read any further if you want to avoid such comments! >>> The word goblet has come up before in the book, or at least the UK versions. In PS 'Malfoy was banging his goblet on the table'. This was when Slytherin had 'won' the house cup just before Dumbledore announced the extra pointes for Harry and others. I believe their are other similar references in the books. >>> I don't have my copy of Sorcerer's Stone handy, but I don't think "goblet" is used in the American version. If I remember correctly, the sentence goes something like, "Malfoy was banging his cup on the table." Personally, I prefer chalice to goblet. It sounds more...I don't know, smooth and mysterious. As for Americans not knowing what a chalice is, THAT'S WHAT THE DICTIONARY IS FOR. In my Spanish class, whenever we'd ask my professor what a certain word meant, he'd say, "What, was the dictionary broken?" And even if you don't have a dictionary around, ask an adult! Jeez...I'm so sick of this "dumbing down" of America. If people are too lazy to find out info. on their own, it's their loss. *ahem* Sorry. I felt the need to rant. I'll just stop now. </rant> *g* -- JoAnna From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 19:58:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 15:58:00 -0400 Subject: Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2876 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Date: 6/26/00 3:58 pm (ET) This is idle speculation (and a slight revisitation), so no need to avert your eyes. ** JK Rowling has said that the one thing magic can't do is bring people back from the dead [in reference to Harry's parents]. But, the time-turner has already saved Buckbeak from the chop, so what's to stop Ron (for example) dying, but being saved by a similar twist in the plot? I won't repeat the complicated theories that were posted here before, but we concluded (I think) that provided the death was not indisputably certain - i.e. witnessed - events could be altered by a trip back in time. ** I've also read something JK said about the ghosts at Hogwarts - why some people become ghosts and others don't (presumably, only the troubled ones hang around?). I wonder if one of the main characters could die, but continue to appear as a ghost? Are any of the present ghosts fairly recently deceased? Peeves or Moaning Myrtle perhaps? Were any of them contemporaries of Lily & James, Snape, Dumbledore et al? Is The Sorting Hat possessed by a spirit? Who could it be? It's supposed to be significant in some way. Questions, questions... Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 20:07:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:07:00 -0400 Subject: Snitches... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2877 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Snitches... Date: 6/26/00 4:07 pm (ET) When we were chatting on Sunday, I proposed the idea that the Golden Snitches are living things. My main evidence for this is that they have wings, and seem to have a life of their own. Perhaps they 'evolve' into something else after living though this pupal stage, or perhaps they are like little carriages, holding a winged creature - like a fairy - trapped like a genie in a bottle? Any takers? Neil From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 20:10:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:10:00 -0400 Subject: Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2878 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Re: Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2876] Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Date: 6/26/00 4:10 pm (ET) There is a series by Brian Lumley (hopefully I didn't spell that wrong) called the Necroscope series. It's mainly adult horror, but there are many concepts encased within it's paperthin walls. SPOILER FOR NECROSCOPE!!! In the book there is a man, named Harry, who develops this ability to speak to the dead, starting with his mother. As he gets older, and goes through school, he speaks with various of the dead. In the course of the book, Harry runs into a spot of trouble, and is killed. In the sequel, Harry hangs around his son, as a ghost, but influences things greatly even then. Could something like this happen with HP? From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 20:18:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:18:00 -0400 Subject: Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2879 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2878] Re: Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Date: 6/26/00 4:18 pm (ET) "In the sequel, Harry hangs around his son, as a ghost, but influences things greatly even then." That sounds interesting. A bit like "Sixth Sense" I guess. There was a cult 60s TV series in the UK called "Randall & Hopkirk (Deceased)", about a detective, Randall, whose partner dies, but continues to exist, visible only to him, and wearing a white suit (oh-oh: 'Heaven' clich'). They solved crimes together, and it was recently revived, with alternative comedians Reeves and Mortimer in the main roles. I like the idea that death isn't necessarily final, but I suspect that, if JK Rowling wants to make a point, there will be a lasting death for one loved character. Neil - who has been writing his Will... From babynick34 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 20:43:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 16:43:00 -0400 Subject: Book 4 Title (Not a Spoiler) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2880 From: babynick34 Subject: Book 4 Title (Not a Spoiler) Date: 6/26/00 4:43 pm (ET) Hi all I've been thinking about this Book 4 title thing, and I think that the origional leak, and the subsequent leaks is all a set up. There is no better way to get free publicity than to pull a stunt like this... the media are talking about it around the globe - and the publishers have not paid a penny! Why the secrecy around the book title - because if they keep it secret, and then leak it out... it generates much more media attention than just releaseing the title. Just my opinion Nick. From schlaggen at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 21:13:00 2000 From: schlaggen at yahoo.com (schlaggen) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:13:00 -0400 Subject: Title/cover US book 4... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2881 From: schlaggen Subject: Re: Title/cover US book 4... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2858] Re: Title/cover US book 4... Date: 6/26/00 5:13 pm (ET) It seems I may have been wrong to say that the Amazon.com cover was not done by Ms. Grandpre. BUT I still hold to my opinion that the picture will look quite a bit different. From estesrandy at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 21:38:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:38:00 -0400 Subject: Free Publicity Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2882 From: estesrandy Subject: Free Publicity Reply To: [Yahoo! #2880] Book 4 Title (Not a Spoiler) Date: 6/26/00 5:38 pm (ET) What if you read the ninth chapter of book one backwards? Does it say "Ron is Dead" if you delete half the consonants? Or how about "I am the Walrus"? To those of you over 39, I'm sure you know what I'm referring to in regards to a major publicity stunt in the 1960's regarding Beatles albums. I think you might be on to something with this false information campaign on the Covers and Titles ! From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 22:06:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:06:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2883 From: hert0661 Subject: Hermione Date: 6/26/00 6:06 pm (ET) Hello all. I am not sure whether this question was posted here or in the e-group harrypotteranonymous. Hermione has brown eyes. In CoS it makes the comment about her eyes returning to brown after the cat incident. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 22:13:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:13:00 -0400 Subject: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2884 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2875] Re: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Date: 6/26/00 6:13 pm (ET) Haved checked and the word goblet comes up quite often, in the UK versions of the books. It is mentioned every time a great feast happens. Simon (Who is suffering for for drinking far too much this evening!) From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 22:40:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:40:00 -0400 Subject: COF and Gof Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2885 From: davehoz Subject: Re: COF and Gof Reply To: [Yahoo! #2859] COF and Gof Date: 6/26/00 6:40 pm (ET) Rats! And here I thought the book would be titled, "Harry Potter and the Chariots of Fire". :) (I always put Vangelis' score for _Chariots_ on the stereo when I'm reading Quidditch scenes.) From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 22:44:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:44:00 -0400 Subject: The Wand Mutiny Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2886 From: davehoz Subject: The Wand Mutiny Date: 6/26/00 6:44 pm (ET) As I write this the movie _The Caine Mutiny_ is on the telly. Does anyone who's seen it or read the book agree that Captain Queeg and Snape have a lot in common? I thin it's obvious from his behavior in _PoA_ that Snape is acutely paranoid. From davehoz at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 22:57:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:57:00 -0400 Subject: My New Harry Page Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2887 From: davehoz Subject: My New Harry Page Date: 6/26/00 6:57 pm (ET) I've just got up a rudementary Harry Potter Page. There's currently not much there except my own comments on Stouffer's "plagerism" charges. But take a look and give me your comments: http://www.mindspring.com/~daveh47/HarryP.html Oh, and I have an Oz/Hogwarts comparison too that fans of the Oz books may want to look at. (BTW, For those of you who have read _The Magic of Oz_, does anyone besides me that suspect that the magic word "Pyrzqxgl" is something in Parseltongue?) From triner2001 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 22:59:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 18:59:00 -0400 Subject: Use of the word "goblet" Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2888 From: triner2001 Subject: Use of the word "goblet" Date: 6/26/00 6:59 pm (ET) This does not have any spoilers, so read away! Draco was "banging his goblet on the table" in the US version of Book One. Therefore we *uneducated* Amuricans have seen the word in print! Neil, I had forgotten that Book One's title was changed as well. Since it was most likely the US publisher who suggested the change, what does it say about our own opinions of out intelligence? Trina, who does know how to use a dictionary. From estesrandy at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 23:03:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:03:00 -0400 Subject: Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2889 From: estesrandy Subject: Re: Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2791] Re: Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Date: 6/26/00 7:03 pm (ET) By the way,I thought your verse was excellent! 10 points for your House ! I found it quite intriguing to try to take parts of the story and fit it to the cadence of the song. It's like it's own kind of a Harry Potter Puzzle! whatever happened to the last puzzle anyway? From triner2001 at yahoo.com Mon Jun 26 23:15:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 19:15:00 -0400 Subject: My New Harry Page Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2890 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: My New Harry Page Reply To: [Yahoo! #2887] My New Harry Page Date: 6/26/00 7:15 pm (ET) Hey, Dave! Just checked out your page. Here's a rebuttal to the "Worry Stone." Has she never seen the agates polished with a groove in the middle that you rub your thumb against when you're worried? I don't know if they're trademarked or anything, just know they exist, and are usually found at souvenir shops. Also, the name thing. In the 30's a movie was made of _Anne of Green Gables_ (one of my all-time faves!). The actress playing Anne Shirley actually had her name legally changed to Anne Shirley. I don't think the LM Montgomery estate sued her for copyright infringement. Trina From houston425 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 00:31:00 2000 From: houston425 at yahoo.com (houston425) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:31:00 -0400 Subject: Well Houstonians... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2891 From: houston425 Subject: Well Houstonians... Date: 6/26/00 8:31 pm (ET) ... I broke down and reserved a copy of the book at the Alabama Bookstop. I had emailed Penny (thanks for your reply!!!) about events in Houston and happened to be at the bookstore today. Once I read their flyer I decided to go ahead and go there to pick up my book. Here is what they have going on: "Join the staff here at "Hogwarts" as we play games, have giveaways and celebrate! Mad Science will be on hand to entertain and thrill us with dazzling feats of scientific wonder, which appear to be strikingly magical! Roseanne Rogers, KPRC-TV's Buzz Lady, will be here to cover all the excitement. The party starts at one minute before midnight, and we will countdown the last ten seconds. There will be free coffee for the adults and munchies for all. Stay up late, bring the kids, and be the first one on your block to read the new Harry Potter novel. Feel free to wear a costume!" It sounds like they have a lot going on. I'm really surprised that the Barnes and Noble on Post Oak isn't advertising what they are doing. Just thought I'd let ya'll (Yes, I do say ya'll ;) know. Laurie From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 00:42:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:42:00 -0400 Subject: Well Houstonians... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2892 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Well Houstonians... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2891] Well Houstonians... Date: 6/26/00 8:42 pm (ET) Oooohh -- I'm changing my venue! Thanks for letting us know. I hadn't yet called around other bookstores to see what else might be going on, but it sounds like B&N is missing the boat. Any other Houstonians out there? I know Skimmel is out of town that day. I will do some more sleuthing tonight or tomorrow and see if there's anything that tops the Bookstop on Alabama. Thanks again Laurie -- Penny From houston425 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 00:51:00 2000 From: houston425 at yahoo.com (houston425) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 20:51:00 -0400 Subject: Title of B4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2893 From: houston425 Subject: Re: Title of B4 Reply To: [Yahoo! #2875] Re: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Date: 6/26/00 8:51 pm (ET) >>>THAT'S WHAT THE DICTIONARY IS FOR. In my Spanish class, whenever we'd ask my professor what a certain word meant, he'd say, "What, was the dictionary broken?" And even if you don't have a dictionary around, ask an adult! Jeez...I'm so sick of this "dumbing down" of America. If people are too lazy to find out info. on their own, it's their loss. <<< JoAnna... Rant Away!!! I love your rants because I usually agree wholeheartedly with them. Especially this one! Laurie From p_dumbledore at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 01:44:00 2000 From: p_dumbledore at yahoo.com (p_dumbledore) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 21:44:00 -0400 Subject: COF and Gof Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2894 From: p_dumbledore Subject: Re: COF and Gof Reply To: [Yahoo! #2859] COF and Gof Date: 6/26/00 9:44 pm (ET) I saw a report / rumor on one of the usenet news groups that the title was listed as Caldron of Fire for the new book ??? Who Knows Dumbledore. From estesrandy at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 02:06:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:06:00 -0400 Subject: Number of Posts/Random thoughts Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2895 From: estesrandy Subject: Number of Posts/Random thoughts Date: 6/26/00 10:06 pm (ET) It seems to me that a couple of weeks ago, somebody made a post only to express that they were Post #2000. I can't believe that we are now at almost 2900 already!! BTW, Based on a recent posting about the color of Hermione's eyes, we should add Van Morrison's "Brown Eyed Girl" to the Hogwarts song list. I was thinking about the definition of drawl that someone posted in regards to Draco Malfoy. I always associated it with the Southern U.S. But once I thought about slow exaggerated speach, I assume that Draco has a kind of nasel sounding voice with a real "snooty" attitude to emphasizing his feeling of superiority due to his family. I also assume that the Dursley's keep taking Harry Potter back because Dumbledore's letter either promises money or contains a warning about magic spells which could affect them if harm comes to Harry. From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 02:53:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:53:00 -0400 Subject: Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2896 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2876] Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Date: 6/26/00 10:53 pm (ET) > Are any of the present ghosts fairly recently > deceased? Peeves or Moaning Myrtle perhaps? > Were any of them contemporaries of Lily & James, > Snape, Dumbledore et al? Moaning Myrtle was killed by the basalisk 50 years before she played a role in this story. 50 years seems fairly recent as ghosts go, but it was long before Lily, Snape, and the Marauders were first-years. At the time Myrtle died, Dumbledore was a young professor at Hogwarts, not yet headmaster. > Is The Sorting Hat possessed by a spirit? "Never trusts anything that thinks for itself unless you can tell where it keeps its brain." The examples of Tom Riddle's diary and the Marauders' Map indicate that it is not obvious whether a thing that thinks for itself has a mind, is a person/spirt, or merely is enspelled with a sophisticated program -- the program doesn't have to be AI, the chess playing computers aren't AI. BTW, Fred and George must be very skilled and talented wizards to have figured out, without any instructions, how the Map worked. From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 03:07:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:07:00 -0400 Subject: Snitches... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2897 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Snitches... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2877] Snitches... Date: 6/26/00 11:07 pm (ET) > I proposed the idea that the Golden Snitches > are living things. (snip) Perhaps they 'evolve' > into something else after living though this > pupal stage Oh, gods, what a weird thought. What remarkable creature could a Golden Snitch hatch into? Presumably Silver, Bronze, Copper, and Tin Snitches produce less remarkable creatures. > or perhaps they are like little carriages, > holding a winged creature - like a fairy - > trapped like a genie in a bottle? Imprisonment! Slavery! Cruelty to fairies! Seriously, the question of what is alive and what isn't must be even more complicated in the wizard world than in real life (tm). Consider the first-year Transfiguration exercise of turning a teapot into a tortoise (if the first-years can do that, surely the adults can turn dirt or at least wood into ivory, thus supplying as much ivory as anyone could need, without harming any elephants). The teapot was not a living being person. The tortoise is a living being person. Where did that life come from when the matter shaped into the tortoise form, and where did it go when shaped back into the teapot form? If you turn a teapot into a tortoise and then turn it back into a teapot, did you just murder a tortoise? But just as I can't tell whether a wizard artifact that "thinks for itself" contains a mind or just a very sophisticated computer program, I can't tell whether a wizard artifact that moves "for itself" is alive or just is propelled by a motor. Oh, incidentally, I am not so naive that I don't know that many secularists believe, in real life (tm), that our mind is nothing but a sophisticated computer program and our life is nothing but a motor, but *I* don't believe that. From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 03:49:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 23:49:00 -0400 Subject: Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2898 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2876] Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Date: 6/26/00 11:49 pm (ET) this ghost speculation makes me wonder....in the first book, while Harry, Ron, etc. are waiting to be sorted, a whole bunch of ghosts enter the room. I think it says that dozens of ghosts, or twenty ghosts, or something, I forget exactly. The point is, where do all those ghosts come from? Later in the book it seems that there are not very many ghosts at Hogwarts -- each house has a ghost, and there is Moaning Myrtle, but JKR never talks about other ghosts, except the ones that come from other places to go to Nearly Headless Nicks deathday party. From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 04:27:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 00:27:00 -0400 Subject: Fanfic and parallel universes Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2899 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Fanfic and parallel universes Reply To: [Yahoo! #2794] Re: Harry's Love Life Date: 6/27/00 12:27 am (ET) "The only problem I am having with the fanfic is that it is clouding my view of what will happen in the JKR books. It is making me look for signs that Ron will die etc..." I don't know if this will help, Simon, but I have a way of thinking that may get around that. As of the end of PoA, PoU *could* happen, but it is only one of infinite possibilities. If the stories later diverge (as I sincerely hope they do, in the case of Ron), I'll think of PoU as a parallel universe. I think of all fanfic that way, no matter how well written or professional. In fact, it was professional "fanfic" (if it can be called that) that originally got me to thinking this way. Eight years ago, I was as big a fan of "Star Trek - The Next Generation" as I am of Harry Potter today. During "rerun time," I eagerly bought and read as many STNG novels as I could (professional fanfic?). Each novel fit nicely into the Star Trek universe *as of the time it was written*. But sometimes, an episode would come along and blast away some fact from an earlier novel. This rather threw me for a loop ("Tasha Yar's sister? What sister? In 'Survivors,' she's an only child!"). But Star Trek also dealt quite a bit with parallel universes. Does anyone remember the episode where Worf went through several? Since then, I started thinking of the novels as parallel universes (parallel to each other and to the show). And (to pull this back on topic) I got into that habit for all fanfic. For this reason, PoU has shown me that Harry and Hermione *could* be a great match. But neither PoU nor any other fanfic will ever convince me that they (or any other couple) are the *only* ones right for each other. In the books, I'm still hoping for Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny pairings. True, they won't be ready to ride off into the sunset, but I'd at least like to see a teen love develop between the couples. Melanie From davehoz at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 06:04:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:04:00 -0400 Subject: Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2900 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2876] Death? Ghosts? Some thoughts... Date: 6/27/00 2:04 am (ET) >Are any of the present ghosts fairly recently deceased? Peeves or Moaning Myrtle perhaps? Um... We *know* when Moaning Myrtle snuffed it: Fifty-two years ago! (See _HP&CoS_.) From davehoz at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 06:08:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:08:00 -0400 Subject: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2901 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2864] Re: Title of B4 (spoilers on title) Date: 6/27/00 2:08 am (ET) >I remember that bit...what is the name of that movie? Is it The Inspector General, or something like that? _The Court Jester_ -- Danny's best IMHO. _The Inspector General_ is one with the Gypsy Drinking Song. ("Drink to me only with thine eyes and I will drink with my nose.") :) From davehoz at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 06:14:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:14:00 -0400 Subject: Fanfic and parallel universes Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2902 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Fanfic and parallel universes Reply To: [Yahoo! #2899] Fanfic and parallel universes Date: 6/27/00 2:14 am (ET) Of course as far as parallel universes, my favorite is the episode of _Red Dwarf_ in the parallel universe where everyone has the opposite personality. (Rimmer is charming and the captain, the Cat is a professor, and Kochanski is a dumb blonde.) I have a theory that Dumbledore can see into parallel realities... That's how he realized that Harry and Hermione would come back to save Sirius and Buckbeak. From davehoz at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 06:19:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:19:00 -0400 Subject: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2903 From: davehoz Subject: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 2:19 am (ET) WARNING! POSSIBLE BOOK 4 SPOILERS AHEAD!!! There's a strange rumor that's been posted on Jenna's site. It says that in Book 4 Harry will be EXPELLED FROM HOGWARTS!!! This seems to terrible to conceive, but at the same time it might explain why the Book is rumored to be so long, if he has to take Year 4 twice! Of course this would mean than Ron and Hermione would be a year ahead of him unless they get kicked out too! Thoughts anyone? From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 06:22:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:22:00 -0400 Subject: Number of Posts Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2904 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Number of Posts Reply To: [Yahoo! #2895] Number of Posts/Random thoughts Date: 6/27/00 2:22 am (ET) "It seems to me that a couple of weeks ago, somebody made a post only to express that they were Post #2000. I can't believe that we are now at almost 2900 already!!" I joined this club about three weeks ago now. The first message I posted was #1675 (7th June). The 2000th post was on 15th of June. SO that is 1200 messages in the last 20 days. However did I manage to read all of those? I will also take this opportunity to apologise if the messages that I posted last night where incoherent. I was out at a posh dinner last night and then checked my e-mail, as I was expecting one of my friends exam results. I then for some reason, a large volume of alcohol, decided to try to post some messages to this club. I think I may have to impose a do not try and send message when drunk rule on myself! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 06:24:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:24:00 -0400 Subject: Crossword Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2905 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Crossword Reply To: [Yahoo! #2889] Re: Harry Potter Fan Round 2 ? Date: 6/27/00 2:24 am (ET) "whatever happened to the last puzzle anyway? " I believe it has suffered from lack of replies. I will make the effort and send my answers in either tonight or tomorrow, cannot do so at the moment as I have answered it but have sent my answers home. I am happy to set the next puzzle. If I do end up doing this I thought that I would do book 3 anagrams to complete the set! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 06:29:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:29:00 -0400 Subject: parallel universes (spoilers book3) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2906 From: hert0661 Subject: Re:parallel universes (spoilers book3) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2902] Re: Fanfic and parallel universes Date: 6/27/00 2:29 am (ET) The following includes a major spoiler for the end of book 3. SO if you have not yet finished that book then look away now! "I have a theory that Dumbledore can see into parallel realities... That's how he realized that Harry and Hermione would come back to save Sirius and Buckbeak." Dumbledore was at the execution that never was and so will have known by then that Buckbeak had escaped. From this he will then have worked out a reason why this was needed and got H&H to act acordingly. It is Harry's group that thought the execution had happened but only because they heard the thud of the axe. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 06:32:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:32:00 -0400 Subject: Fanfic and parallel universes Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2907 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Fanfic and parallel universes Reply To: [Yahoo! #2899] Fanfic and parallel universes Date: 6/27/00 2:32 am (ET) "I don't know if this will help, Simon, but I have a way of thinking that may get around that. As of the end of PoA, PoU *could* happen, but it is only one of infinite possibilities. If the stories later diverge (as I sincerely hope they do, in the case of Ron), I'll think of PoU as a parallel universe." That seems a sensible idea but I am not a great fan of the parallel universe idea. I find it hard to think along these lines and I get very confused if I do so. I have started to think of the fanfic as basically involving a new set of characters that I just happen to know something about. Almost as if someone has written a story about a group of friends of mine and what will happen to us in a few years. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 06:42:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 02:42:00 -0400 Subject: Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B4) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2908 From: hert0661 Subject: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B4) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2903] The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 2:42 am (ET) WARNING! POSSIBLE BOOK 4 SPOILERS AHEAD!!! This is something quite major so do not read any further if you want to avoid any conjecture about the forthcoming book. "There's a strange rumor that's been posted on Jenna's site. It says that in Book 4 Harry will be EXPELLED FROM HOGWARTS!!! This seems to terrible to conceive, but at the same time it might explain why the Book is rumored to be so long, if he has to take Year 4 twice! Of course this would mean than Ron and Hermione would be a year ahead of him unless they get kicked out too! Thoughts anyone?" I have heard this rumour as well, but in a slightly enlarged form. I heard that Harry would get expelled and then do something to save someone/thing and so be readmitted. Also that he would end up still in the same year, i.e with Ron and Hermione. I could not see the stories working as well if Harry was in a different year to Ron, Hermione and Draco. Most of the plots revolve around Harry's interaction with these three and if he were in a different year then this would not work as well. Having just finished rereading book 2 I have noticed that in it Hermione stands up for Draco. Is this the warning of her falling for him, a 'wrong person'? Simon (7 days to go) From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 10:39:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 06:39:00 -0400 Subject: Number of Posts/My half-dream Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2909 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Number of Posts/My half-dream Reply To: [Yahoo! #2904] Re: Number of Posts Date: 6/27/00 6:39 am (ET) "I will also take this opportunity to apologise if the messages that I posted last night where incoherent." No, Simon - you seemed unusually coherent to me... There was a point when the number of posts in here became overwhelming, but I was determined to read them all. Result: I feel as if I've spent more time reading messages here than I have reading the Harry Potter books! Last night, through tiredness, I dozed off while listening to the CD of 'Philosopher's Stone'. It was the bit where Hagrid is speaking to Harry, en route to Diagon Alley... I drifted off ... time passed... I awoke with a start, and carried on listening, but for some reason, I was having difficulty picking up the plot. Suddenly, I realised that I was hearing it in German! I carried on listening, wildly disoriented, my heart racing. What on earth had happened? Had they hidden a German version after the English one? Had I regressed into a past life, and become a Bavarian peasant farmer? No. My CD player had flicked onto the next CD, which just happened to be an album by German band, Blumfeld, and the first track just happened to be a spoken word piece, which sounded like someone reading from a book. Says a lot for my German, I guess. Neil From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 12:20:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:20:00 -0400 Subject: So many posts! And spoilers.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2910 From: rainy_lilac Subject: So many posts! And spoilers.... Date: 6/27/00 8:20 am (ET) I am shamelessly interested in spoilers, I admit it, and lately I have been correpsonding with someone who does indeed have the inside scoop. It has been fun (this next book sounds sooooo good!!) but I will resist alluding to any spoilers unless people really seem interested. Yes, I think the "warning" is a good one! I also wanted to say that I have been away for several days and am waaaaaaaayyyyy behind on all these posts, but so many of them look intriguing! I will try to do a little catching up... Has everyone forgotteen me :-( .... I'm back.... Hugs, Suzanne From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 12:25:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:25:00 -0400 Subject: Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2911 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Reply To: [Yahoo! #2908] Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B4) Date: 6/27/00 8:25 am (ET) WARNING! I have heard tons of inside juicy details, but this was not in the mix. On the other hand, this does not neccessarily prove anything, since the person I spoke to left out plenty in talking to me. I think that Book FOur is long for other reasons-- there will, from what I can gather, be much about the past and why Voldemort is what he is, a lot of territory to cover. There will also be a lot of time spent on that Quittditch tournament I suppose. I agree, I cannot see Harry not being in the same year as his friends. Since there will be only seven books and not eight, I think we can assume that any explusion will be reversed in good time. But it is true: Harry has walked the edge with school rules, and Snape on one ocassion certainly wanted him to be expelled! I am sure that will happen again. >>>>>>>>Having just finished rereading book 2 I have noticed that in it Hermione stands up for Draco. Is this the warning of her falling for him, a 'wrong person'?>>>>>>>>> Where is this, Simon? I don't remeber this part. I still think the slap Hermione gave him counters this.... Suzanne From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 12:29:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 08:29:00 -0400 Subject: Arrrghhh... I should use more space.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2912 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Arrrghhh... I should use more space.... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2911] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Date: 6/27/00 8:29 am (ET) In my message below, I did not use enough space between the warning and the possible rumor-mongering. My apologies. From morrigan09 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 14:26:00 2000 From: morrigan09 at yahoo.com (morrigan09) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 10:26:00 -0400 Subject: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2913 From: morrigan09 Subject: Re: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2903] The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 10:26 am (ET) oh,oh, that fits in so well with my own Book 4 theory!!! entirely unfounded bit of speculation below... I'll leave a space anyway. I'm back BTW-- but have given up even trying to plough my way through the new posts. Hope I didn't miss anything incredibly interesting. my theory: Dumbledore gets killed and Lucius Malfoy becomes Headmaster, as the Dark Side gains power. Well-- obviously he'd expel Harry ASAP wouldn't he? From triner2001 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 15:16:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:16:00 -0400 Subject: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2914 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2913] Re: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 11:16 am (ET) WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't think Lucius Malfoy will be named Headmaster. Remember in CoS he was sacked as school governor after threatening to curse the others and quite possibly for selling Tom Riddle's school things. Besides, McGonagall is Deputy Headmistress and (at least IMHO) would be the one to take over if anything were to happen to Dumbledore. From triner2001 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 15:20:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:20:00 -0400 Subject: Apologies! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2915 From: triner2001 Subject: Apologies! Date: 6/27/00 11:20 am (ET) I thought I had left lots of space between my warning and the beginning of my response, but apparently not. I'm very sorry and it won't happen again. Trina From nlpnt at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 15:41:00 2000 From: nlpnt at yahoo.com (nlpnt) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:41:00 -0400 Subject: Prince Harry Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2916 From: nlpnt Subject: Re: Prince Harry Reply To: [Yahoo! #2735] Re: Prince Harry Date: 6/27/00 11:41 am (ET) There was a (U.S.) tabloid headline a few months ago about Prince William wanting to be an actor- he might have made a good Anakin Skywalker. (Then Britain would have King Vader!) From jeanne_1013 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 15:50:00 2000 From: jeanne_1013 at yahoo.com (jeanne_1013) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:50:00 -0400 Subject: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2917 From: jeanne_1013 Subject: Re: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2914] Re: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 11:50 am (ET) That's right...didn't McGonagall take over for Dumbledore when he was gone in Chamber of Secrets? From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 15:54:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:54:00 -0400 Subject: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2918 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2913] Re: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 11:54 am (ET) Morrigan! Whee! >>>>>my theory: Dumbledore gets killed and Lucius Malfoy becomes Headmaster, as the Dark Side gains power. Well-- obviously he'd expel Harry ASAP wouldn't he? >>>>>>>> Oh god, Morrigan, I like how your mind works! I don't know if Dumbledore will die, but we do know already that Malfoy wants him out and wants to have Hogwarts school the children in the Dark Arts.... and yes, he has it in for not only Harry and the Weasleys, but Muggles such as Hermione. I am keeping my eye on Malfoy-- he revolts me, but I also find him to be a very convincing and interesting villain (though I admit that I am influenced by YOUR fanfiction, Morrigan!) He is going to do something..... From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 15:56:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 11:56:00 -0400 Subject: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2919 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2918] Re: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 11:56 am (ET) It is true that McGonnagol would most liekly take over-- but she does not inimidate the Dark Side the way Dumbledore does. Hogwarts will be vulnerable. From brp13 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 16:33:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:33:00 -0400 Subject: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2920 From: brp13 Subject: Re: The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2903] The Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 12:33 pm (ET) I really doubt anything will happen to dumbledor, he's just to cental... Herry getting expelled is a very unlikely situation. A book could indeed cover a year with 700 pages, if things are gone into pretty good detail... Let's see, 2 pages/day... Wow. Still, there is alot that could infact be done to fill that up. Especially if there get's to be a complicated dating/quidditch sceme going on. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 17:32:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:32:00 -0400 Subject: Crossword Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2921 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Crossword Reply To: [Yahoo! #2905] Re: Crossword Date: 6/27/00 1:32 pm (ET) >>> "whatever happened to the last puzzle anyway?" I believe it has suffered from lack of replies. I will make the effort and send my answers in either tonight or tomorrow, cannot do so at the moment as I have answered it but have sent my answers home. I am happy to set the next puzzle. If I do end up doing this I thought that I would do book 3 anagrams to complete the set! >>> I haven't gotten any replies yet, but I'll post the answers anyway. Simon, looks like you have the next activity! Sorry about the delay -- I was hoping to get at least ONE entry before this week. :) ACROSS 1. The best friend of Dudley Dursley. - Piers Polkiss 2. The centuar who carried Harry on his back. - Firenze 3. The witch who works in the Ministry of Magic's Improper Use of Magic Office. - Mafalda Hopkirk 4. The magic word in the "useful little spell" that Professor Lupin uses on Peeves. - Waddiwasi 5. The bartender at The Three Broomsticks. - Rosmerta 6. An uncle of Ron Weasley's who once saw a Grim. - Bilius 7. Not Scabbers Weasley, but _____ Pettigrew. - Peter 8. Buckbeak had a close shave with this. - Axe 9. Nearly Headless Nick's Deathday Party was this. - Eerie 10. Harry plays Quidditch in all kinds of weather: rain, sleet, hail, and ____. - snow 11. Devil's Snare does not like this. - fire DOWN 1. Mrs. Nicolas Flamel (first name only). Perenelle 2. A stone found in the stomach of a goat. - bezoar 3. The wife of Aragog. - Mosag 4. Where the Knight Bus can't do "nuffink." - underwater 5. The Headmaster of Hogwarts in Tom Riddle's day. - Dippet 6. What Colin Creevey's father delivers. - milk 7. Neville's pet is not a ____, but a toad. - frog 8. Both Sirius Black and Minerva McGonagall are these. - Animagi 9. The Patronus Charm will drive this away. - Dementor 10. Harry's Firebolt flies very ____. - high 11. Professor Sprout probably uses one of these in the greenhouses. - hoe -- JoAnna From smitster1 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 17:46:00 2000 From: smitster1 at yahoo.com (smitster1) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 13:46:00 -0400 Subject: HP #4 Title Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2922 From: smitster1 Subject: HP #4 Title Date: 6/27/00 1:46 pm (ET) Amazon UK has a different cover than the picture from yesterday's post. http://www.amazon.co.uk From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 18:28:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:28:00 -0400 Subject: Spanish book cover Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2923 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Spanish book cover Reply To: [Yahoo! #2849] Re: Spanish book cover Date: 6/27/00 2:28 pm (ET) I apologize for the confusion. The cover is in Catalan. I spent quite a while trying to determine that. The language was obviously not Spanish or Portuguese (sp?) but something closely related. The primary reason I posted the one cover was that it was one of the most spectacular errors I'd seen in a cover. We've spent some time arguing about whether this artist or that got somebodies hair the wrong color or that somebodies eyes should be brown instead of blue. My recollection is that the Hogwarts Express is bright red. I laughed when I saw one drawn as being bright blue. From pt4ever at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 18:31:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:31:00 -0400 Subject: Names & their meanings Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2924 From: pt4ever Subject: Names & their meanings Date: 6/27/00 2:31 pm (ET) I was kind of bored the other day, so I went around the Internet and looked up different names found in the HP books. I got these off of various web sites, but I could not find Reubeus (Hagrid's first name) or Albus (Dumbledore's) anywhere. It got me thinking...we never found out what Quirrell's first name was, did we? Anyway, enjoy! Harry, a 2-syllable boy's name of Teutonic/Old English origin, means: Head of the house; warrior. Hermione, a 3-syllable girl's name of Greek origin, means: Messenger; of the earth. Ronald, a 2-syllable boy's name of Norse origin, means: One with powerful authority. Ginny, a nickname of Virginia, a 4-syllable girl's name of Latin/various origin, means: She who is pure; thriving; strong. Arthur, a 2-syllable boy's name of Latin/Celtic origin, means: Noble; strength; bear. Molly, a 2-syllable girl's name of Hebrew/Irish origin, means: Bitter one. Dudley, a 2-syllable boy's name of Anglo-Saxon origin, means: From the meadow or clearing. Vernon, a 2-syllable boy's name of Latin/French origin, means: Springlike; youthful; of the alders. Petunia, a 4-syllable girl's name of Native American origin, means: The petunia flower; reddish-purple. James, a 1-syllable boy's name of Hebrew origin, means: One who supplants; replaces. Lily, a 2-syllable girl's name of Greek/Latin origin, means: A lily or lilac; blue-colored flower. Minerva, a 3-syllable girl's name of Greek origin, means: With wisdom; thinking. Alban (closest thing I could find to "Albus") This boy's name is used in English. Its source is Albanus, a Latin name meaning "White." Myrtle, a 2-syllable girl's name of Greek origin, means: Myrtle tree; victory. Tom, a 1-syllable boy's name of Aramaic/Greek/Hebrew origin, means: A twin. Remus - The name's spelling coincides with the Latin word for ''oar.'' Perhaps for this reason, ''swiftness'' has been suggested as a meaning for this name. (note: I found "Remus" in a book of baby names at home; according to the book it means "fast-moving." Sirius, a 3-syllable boy's name of Greek origin, means: Brightest star Peter, a 2-syllable boy's name of Greek origin, means: A rock; stone. Joanne, a 2-syllable girl's name of Hebrew origin, means: Gracious gift of God. (note: this is also the meaning for JoAnna) *wink* From babynick34 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 18:49:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:49:00 -0400 Subject: Official UK Harry Potter Web Site Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2925 From: babynick34 Subject: Official UK Harry Potter Web Site Date: 6/27/00 2:49 pm (ET) Hi all The Official UK Harry Potter Web Site has been launched by publisher Bloomsbury. It contains details about book signings, the Hogwarts Express - including a chance to win tickets on it, and other things I have yet to explore. It can be found at: http://www.bloomsbury.com/harrypotter Nick. From brp13 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 18:49:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 14:49:00 -0400 Subject: HP #4 Title Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2926 From: brp13 Subject: Re: HP #4 Title Reply To: [Yahoo! #2922] HP #4 Title Date: 6/27/00 2:49 pm (ET) That one almost looks like it could be the real one... Amazon's the company that said they were shipping them early too, wasn't it... Hmmm. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 19:01:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:01:00 -0400 Subject: HP #4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2927 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: HP #4 Date: 6/27/00 3:01 pm (ET) SPOILER WARNING + Yahoo's playing up again, so new post rather than a reply - sorry. .... ... ... ... Title has been anounced... it is that shown on the Amazon.co.uk site. Title is: Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. However, the publishers web site still says: "The fourth Harry Potter book has been completed in total secrecy. Very few people have been allowed to read the manuscript - only the people who work very closely with Emma have seen it. Even the title is secret! This won't be revealed until publication day." So... it could still be a false lead, though I doubt it. I think Bloomsbury have had to release the title - my guess, Amazon put the picture up first. Nick. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 19:37:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:37:00 -0400 Subject: SPOILER - Upcoming Things Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2928 From: babynick34 Subject: SPOILER - Upcoming Things Date: 6/27/00 3:37 pm (ET) SPOILER.... Oh I do like a good S P O I L E R .. . . . . . . Ok... so here are some things that Jo has said about the other books: "The Harry Potter novels must be read very carefully because what may be a small event in the first book may become very important in a later adventure." "Some of the monsters in the Harry Potter books are imaginary and others are from legend, so you will have to do some research to find out which is which!" "Since there isn't a University for Wizards, there won't be a book about Harry going to university." "There will, however, be lots of new creatures and lots of exciting adventures in the whole series, including the reason why some witches and wizards become ghosts when they die; what Harry's parents did before they were killed by You-Know-Who; and a reappearance from Scabbers the rat!" Just some more info - some of which is not new news. Nick. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 19:57:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:57:00 -0400 Subject: Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2929 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Reply To: [Yahoo! #2911] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Date: 6/27/00 3:57 pm (ET) "Where is this, Simon? I don't remeber this part. I still think the slap Hermione gave him counters this...." Near the end of chapter 9: The Writing on the Wall. They are discussing who they think has opened the chamber and Hermione is unconvinced that it is Malfoy. Maybe not that strong a clue but still! And yet again Hermione was right about something! The slap could be back to the idea of hate and love being very close together. Simon PS: I sound more coherent when nearly drunk. I must go off and get some alcohol! From hert0661 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 20:08:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:08:00 -0400 Subject: Crossword Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2930 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Crossword Reply To: [Yahoo! #2921] Re: Crossword Date: 6/27/00 4:08 pm (ET) "I haven't gotten any replies yet, but I'll post the answers anyway. Simon, looks like you have the next activity! Sorry about the delay -- I was hoping to get at least ONE entry before this week. :)" Sorry my entry never got to you. I have only just caught up with my computer. The answers were on this but stupidity on my part lead to me forgetting to send them in! The next puzzle will be on it's way soon. Hopefully will be here before the weekend! Simon From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 20:17:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:17:00 -0400 Subject: Danish Covers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2931 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Danish Covers Date: 6/27/00 4:17 pm (ET) Penny, just for you (and anyone else who is interested) I've uploaded larger, clearer copies of the covers for the three Danish books. Chamber of Secrets is much sharper. Photo Album - Covers From Around the World. I add the rest of my collection if anyone is interested. There are a number of Grandpre's with the different languages and some others. In all honesty, though, except for the American covers, the best are already up there. Enjoy. From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 20:21:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 16:21:00 -0400 Subject: Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2932 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Reply To: [Yahoo! #2929] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Date: 6/27/00 4:21 pm (ET) Okay, I'm clearly putting that in the "not a snowball's chance in hell" category. Hermione is a pretty strong person, and quite smart. She's not going to fall for a little weasel like Malfoy. Hell, she doesn't even LIKE him. Just because she's intelligent enough in CoS to see that he's too obvious of a choice to be the Heir of Slytherin doesn't mean she likes him. You can think someone's innocent of a crime and not like them. Also, she's always been to Harry's defense against Malfoy, and decked Draco when he so desperately needed to be hit. On the other side, Malfoy would also NEVER date her himself. He'd probably consider it akin to kissing a rat. She's a filthy muggle, remember? You think he wants to help her pop out half-breed rugrats? No sir, Malfoy would want a real woman of full wizarding blood. (Please note, these opinions above are from Malfoy's point of view, not mine.) Which does bring us up to a wierd question though... The main characters are all supposed to fall for wrong people in this next book. I'd argue that Draco is a main character, even if not a nice one. Who might he fall for that's the wrong person? ;) Jarnor23 From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 21:23:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:23:00 -0400 Subject: Hermione & Draco --- Not! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2933 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Hermione & Draco --- Not! Reply To: [Yahoo! #2932] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Date: 6/27/00 5:23 pm (ET) Hi: I couldn't agree more with Jarnor23. There couldn't be 2 people less likely to date than those two. As Jarnor said so aptly, even if Hermione weren't such a strong intelligent person, there's no way Draco would want to date her. I see absolutely no possibilities of this. I too think she was just expressing skepticism that Malfoy was the heir of Slytherin -- not defending him per se. I think the "wrong people" for our trio (and Draco) might likely be characters we've only heard in passing or not heard of before at all. Ernie Macmillan was introduced in CoS, so there's precedent for developing more of the very minor characters. I wonder if Hermione might fall for one of Harry & Ron's dorm-mates -- Dean or Seamus. Neville seems a bit unlikely to me too. Don't know why. Poor Neville -- I just giggled at the thought of him dating anyone, let alone bossy strong-willed Hermione. Maybe Hermione will fall for one of the Weasley twins. Maybe Ron will fall for some Hufflepuff we've only heard in passing - Susan Bone(s). Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 21:26:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:26:00 -0400 Subject: Book IV Title -- SPOILER WARNING Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2934 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Book IV Title -- SPOILER WARNING Date: 6/27/00 5:26 pm (ET) This is a Spoiler Warning for those of you who don't want to know the title of Book IV until you get it in your hot little hands on July 8th. Hopefully enough Spoiler Space * * * * * * * * So, our leak of CoF seems to have been a dud if we're to believe the Bloomsbury press release earlier today. HP & the Goblet of Fire for those who haven't heard yet. Or, is the American title different? Or, is the Bloomsbury release false? As a securities lawyer, I'd hope they aren't issuing deliberately false press releases (although it's hard to see what the damages might be from that! <g>). Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 21:33:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 17:33:00 -0400 Subject: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2935 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Date: 6/27/00 5:33 pm (ET) Hi: I've lent out the audio versions of CoS and PoA and so I'm listening to the SS version for the umpteenth time. Things hit you everytime you read or hear these books -- it's amazing. 1. How do you explain that your son has a pig's tail at the muggle hospital? Or, did the Ministry hear of Hagrid's bout with magic and quietly tell the Dursleys how to take Dudley to a magical hospital? Can you imagine the face of a muggle dr if you brought in a child who had a real pig's tail? <g> 2. How do the Dursleys send Harry a Xmas present (of sorts) each year? Does Hedwig go there? Does Hogwarts send an owl there? How do they know when to pick him up at King's Cross? Hmm . . seems like I had others. I'll remember later perhaps. Penny From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 22:03:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:03:00 -0400 Subject: Ron's Ms. Wrong Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2936 From: melaniem68 Subject: Ron's Ms. Wrong Date: 6/27/00 6:03 pm (ET) "Maybe Ron will fall for some Hufflepuff we've only heard in passing - Susan Bone(s)." I was thinking of a minor (so far) Gryffindor--Parvati Patil. Remember how Trelawney told her to "beware of the red-haired man"? Melanie From Danemead at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 22:37:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:37:00 -0400 Subject: Book IV Title -- SPOILER WARNING Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2937 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Book IV Title -- SPOILER WARNING Reply To: [Yahoo! #2934] Book IV Title -- SPOILER WARNING Date: 6/27/00 6:37 pm (ET) **********SPOILER SPACE********** **********SPOILER SPACE********** **********SPOILER SPACE********** **********SPOILER SPACE********** **********SPOILER SPACE********** I'm sorry, but "Goblet of Fire" just doesn't *resonate* with me... I hope they do change the title to Chalice of Fire for the American version. It sounds flashier and more mysterious to my ears. Like an Indiana Jones title... Those covers posted don't look like the other American covers either. The lettering of the title has always been "see through." I do like the amazon (USA) version of the cover without the lettering -- Harry seems 'cuter' than the previous covers, but other than that, the composition seems similar. From melaniem68 at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 22:46:00 2000 From: melaniem68 at yahoo.com (melaniem68) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:46:00 -0400 Subject: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2938 From: melaniem68 Subject: Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Reply To: [Yahoo! #2935] Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Date: 6/27/00 6:46 pm (ET) I have an annoying SS/PS question of my own, about Snape's "spell" to protect the Stone. How and why did it "reset" itself? I'm not surprised the chess set was ready for another game after Quirrell passed it, but Flitwick's flying key gave itself away by its mangled feathers. I'm surprised Snape's potions didn't also show evidence Quirrell had been there. Instead of the "right" bottle refilled and back in place, I would have expected that bottle to be lying empty next to the line of bottles (especially since there wasn't enough potion for both Harry and Hermione). If Quirrell suspected he was being followed, he might even change the bottles around, so the logic puzzle would no longer fit. I suppose Snape could have put a spell on the bottles to refill and replace themselves after being used, but would he have done so? Would he have seen the need to add "that foolish wand waving"? Just a thought. Melanie PS: How sick is this? I almost wished Rowling had included a picture of the line of bottles, so I could attempt that logic problem myself! From christineoswell at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 22:53:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 18:53:00 -0400 Subject: Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2939 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Reply To: [Yahoo! #2932] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Date: 6/27/00 6:53 pm (ET) >>>On the other side, Malfoy would also NEVER date her himself. He'd probably consider it akin to kissing a rat. She's a filthy muggle, remember? You think he wants to help her pop out half-breed rugrats? No sir, Malfoy would want a real woman of full wizarding blood I get the feeling that these are more Lucius's opinions, and maybe not Draco's. At this point Draco is likely just repeating what he has been told his whole life. One day he might actually have the nerve to make his own decisions. You never know what the love of a good woman can make someone capable of.... Christine From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 23:40:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:40:00 -0400 Subject: Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2940 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Reply To: [Yahoo! #2939] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Date: 6/27/00 7:40 pm (ET) Christine: >>>>>I get the feeling that these are more Lucius's opinions, and maybe not Draco's. At this point Draco is likely just repeating what he has been told his whole life. One day he might actually have the nerve to make his own decisions.<<<<<<< While I do not think that Draco and Hermione will ever be a couple (he wishes her DEAD, remember folks?) I think it is true that he is very much in his father's shadow, and perhaps is capable of becoming a better person. I see enough hints to lead me to this. Also SPOILER WARNING!! x x x x x x x x x x x Rumor has it that in the last book he will in fact join forces with Harry! SOMETHING is going to happen to this boy! From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Tue Jun 27 23:59:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 19:59:00 -0400 Subject: Draco and Pansy Parkinson Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2941 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Draco and Pansy Parkinson Reply To: [Yahoo! #2933] Hermione & Draco --- Not! Date: 6/27/00 7:59 pm (ET) That Slytherin girl with a hard face who seems to fancy Draco. I think Draco will start to date her only to find out that she is even more manipulative and conniving than he is. He will be completely out of his depth! Maybe it will be funny.... From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 00:45:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 20:45:00 -0400 Subject: HP #4 Title Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2942 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: HP #4 Title Reply To: [Yahoo! #2922] HP #4 Title Date: 6/27/00 8:45 pm (ET) "Amazon UK has a different cover than the picture from yesterday's post." Although we're still not 100% sure, the pic posted by Amazon.co.uk seems to be the UK cover. It's the same one someone posted here earlier, as a link, when it broke on BBC children's news programme "Newsround". Amazon.co.uk also have the title we've discussed, and I read somewhere that Bloomsbury have issued a press release, confirming it. Neil From nicolas_flamel at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 01:13:00 2000 From: nicolas_flamel at yahoo.com (nicolas_flamel) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:13:00 -0400 Subject: Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2943 From: nicolas_flamel Subject: Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2940] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Date: 6/27/00 9:13 pm (ET) You all are entertaining to say the least. If I didnt know better I might say that a good number of you are trying to re-live your school boy and school girl glory days vicariously through Harry and his friends. I happen to have a little more confidnece in JKR than to relacate book 4 into the same category as a Harlequin Romance Novel. About Harry getting expeled from Hogwarts. I, for one, would like to see it! If he is expelled, chances are that he wont return to the Dursely's. I like the relationship between Harry and Sirus Black at the end of 3. How about him steeling of with Sirus Black for a while? JKR has already let out that Harry will be meeting up with Sirus in book 4 and I think that this relationship has alot of chemistry and look forward to seeing it develop. Would love to get a fix on the Quidditch Cup. It has been rummored that of the teams in the finals, England is not one. The obvious question then is, how does Harry get involved? Any ideas? From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 01:19:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:19:00 -0400 Subject: Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2944 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2943] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 9:19 pm (ET) Re-live my school boy and school girl glory days? OF COURSE!! Though in my case I am vicariously remaking them-- my adolesence was more like Moaning Myrtle's than Hermione's, alas. I may be 35, but I am still fourteen somewhere inside, and I am having a blast. *silly amile* From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 01:27:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:27:00 -0400 Subject: Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2945 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2943] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 9:27 pm (ET) >>>>If I didnt know better I might say that a good number of you are trying to re-live your school boy and school girl glory days vicariously through Harry and his friends. <<<< The only way I'd want to "re-live" those days is if I knew then what I know now. I'd hate to go back to the real thing -- I was too naive and emotional about silly things. Do any of you older adult females remember when how it felt when the way your hair looked was one of the most serious problems in life? (and if it still is, then I'm gonna wonder what you're doing with your brain!) From nicolas_flamel at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 01:29:00 2000 From: nicolas_flamel at yahoo.com (nicolas_flamel) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:29:00 -0400 Subject: Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2946 From: nicolas_flamel Subject: Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2944] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 9:29 pm (ET) I wont argue with that. In fact judging by the name, it would appear that you too have taken an stong liking for Gilderoy Lockhart. Can't blame you though...who wouldnt fall for a toothy grin, blonde hair and blue robes. From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 01:36:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 21:36:00 -0400 Subject: Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2947 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2944] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 9:36 pm (ET) >>>>Rainy_lilac wrote: I may be 35, but I am still fourteen somewhere inside, and I am having a blast.<<<< Who was it said that childhood is wasted on the young? I am far happier today than in my adolescence, although I probably had one of the happiest, most uneventful childhood & adolescence of anyone I know! Children and teenagers are in the grip of serious angst-ridden DRAMA. I eventually learned how NOT to make mountains out of molehills. From echomyst at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 02:03:00 2000 From: echomyst at yahoo.com (echomyst) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:03:00 -0400 Subject: Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2948 From: echomyst Subject: Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2947] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 10:03 pm (ET) >>>who was it said that childhood is wasted on the young<<< I think that was Bernard Shaw...I don't think I can qualify as a "teenager" anymore, but I'm not in the grip of serious angst-ridden drama! =) I guess that's why I like sci & fantasy books like Harry Potter--because they don't actually help me reminescence about days past, but transport me to a more interesting world, unlike my own boring life =P Emily From pt4ever at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 02:31:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:31:00 -0400 Subject: Vicarious childhood via HP Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2949 From: pt4ever Subject: Vicarious childhood via HP Reply To: [Yahoo! #2948] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 10:31 pm (ET) WARNING - RANT AHEAD. :) I suppose many of you would think that I'm still in my childhood, considering I'm only nineteen (although four months from Monday I'll be 20) but I agree with Danemead -- I would only go back to my "teenage" years (i.e. 13-17) if I could go knowing what I know now. My biggest problems in adolescence were worrying about how popular I was and how fat I was. If I could go back, I'd say to hell with society's conventions and really *live* my life without worrying about being popular or thin. Most of the girls in my class were feather-brained twits who could rarely discuss anything more intelligent that the length of hems, dress sizes, or the sports abilities of their current boyfriends. I thought that because I wasn't thin, I wasn't worth anything -- thankfully, I now know that life is NOT a dress size, and I'm perfectly happy being a size 14. I'm having the time of my life at college, and I have many wonderful friends and a great boyfriend who like me for ME, and not for what size I wear. Besides, my problems were trivial compared to Harry's! I had both my parents (although divorced) and I didn't have a Dark Wizard after me either. Plus, I had a much better place to stay during the summer!!!! :) Sorry about the rant, folks -- but I feel much better. *g* -- JoAnna From pt4ever at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 02:34:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:34:00 -0400 Subject: HP4 title Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2950 From: pt4ever Subject: re: HP4 title Reply To: [Yahoo! #2948] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/27/00 10:34 pm (ET) SPOILERS FOR BOOK 4 AHEAD... S P O I L E R S P A C E I also prefer "Chalice of Fire" to "Goblet of Fire." "Chalice" seems more elegant and mysterious, whereas "goblet" -- well, to me, a goblet brings to mind a big, bulky, clunky, clumsy, ugly sort of cup, and "chalice" brings to mind something tall, shiny, and studded with precious gems. I'd prefer the latter to the former! -- JoAnna From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 02:37:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:37:00 -0400 Subject: HP4 title Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2951 From: rainy_lilac Subject: re: HP4 title Reply To: [Yahoo! #2950] re: HP4 title Date: 6/27/00 10:37 pm (ET) SPOILERS FOR BOOK 4 AHEAD... S P O I L E R S P A C E >>>>>>>I also prefer "Chalice of Fire" to "Goblet of Fire." "Chalice" seems more elegant and mysterious, whereas "goblet" -- well, to me, a goblet brings to mind a big, bulky, clunky, clumsy, ugly sort of cup, and "chalice" brings to mind something tall, shiny, and studded with precious gems. I'd prefer the latter to the former!<<<<<<< Maybe some nice Unitarian fact checker at the publishers aletred the editors to the fact that "Chalice of Fire" is the symbol of the Unitarian Universalist Association. Not quite the connotation JK had in mind no doubt.... From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 02:41:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 22:41:00 -0400 Subject: Vicarious childhood via HP Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2952 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Vicarious childhood via HP Reply To: [Yahoo! #2949] Vicarious childhood via HP Date: 6/27/00 10:41 pm (ET) > thankfully, I now know that life is NOT a dress > size, and I'm perfectly happy being a size 14. Size 14 is NOT fat, regardless of how my loathsome father's loathsome wife nagged me..... my current dress size is 26 (farewell to any dreams of starting a flirtation with someone here because no one here knows what I look like!) Miss Manners had a great line that I wish I could remember right, about going to one's college reunion (it would be even more so for high school reunion) and there remembering one's adolescence: a condition of life from which almost anything is an improvement. From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 03:25:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:25:00 -0400 Subject: USAmerican 'Wizards' and 'Witches'? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2953 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: USAmerican 'Wizards' and 'Witches'? Date: 6/27/00 11:25 pm (ET) In the books, a number of wizards express scorn of Muggles and ignorance of Muggle ways. Ignorance, such as Ron's misadventure with the telephone, that could only come from living completely separately from Muggles. Assuming that the scorn and separation are for real (they might be faked, out of snobbery) and are shared by wizards world-wide, it appears likely that Native American wizards used their magic to hide and be safe from the Euro-American conquerors rather than to defend the Muggle Native Americans against the Euro-American conquerors. It also appears likely that the wizards of Europe and the British Isles didn't emigrate to America along with the Muggle colonists and pioneers. Therefore, the USAmericans would have started with no trained wizards and no school of wizardry. Occasionally, wizard children are born to Muggle parents, but there would be no school to teach them to use their magic, not even an experienced wizard living in the neighborhood to give them helpful advice. Relying on trial and error, and lacking wizarding tools such as wands, they wouldn't be able to use their magic very effectively. Maybe some of the trial and error wizards figured out how to contact each other and new young wizards, so they can pool their experience and what they have discovered about what works and what doesn't work. Maybe some of the trials and their errors caused enough disruption in the local magic environment that Native American wizards very reluctantly decided that coming out of hiding to teach the Euro-American wizards some safety techniques was less bad than being caught up in the disruption they had created. MAYBE the disruption was big enough to affect the whole world (Americans like to think that Americans do things in a big way!) so that the wizards of Europe and the British Isles (and China and India, if I meant 'whole world') sent representatives to America to educate the un-trained or semi-trained wizards, which they MIGHT have done by founding a USAmerican branch of Hogwart's. I have been given to understand that myriad American soldiers passed through Britain during WWII. Un-trained or semi-trained wizards would have been among them. Maybe Dumbledore noticed the presence of these wild wizards and started a committee to contact them and invite them to take a course of classes in wizarding (can you imagine a 'Wands for G.I.s' charity drive?) when they're on leave. Maybe romances blossomed between American wild wizards and their British teachers, leading to marriages, emigration, and the founding of USAmerica's first school of wizardry and witchcraft - probably in the San Fernando Valley or in Levittown! From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 03:34:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:34:00 -0400 Subject: HP4 title Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2954 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: re: HP4 title Reply To: [Yahoo! #2951] re: HP4 title Date: 6/27/00 11:34 pm (ET) SPOILERS FOR BOOK 4 AHEAD... S P O I L E R S P A C E "Maybe some nice Unitarian fact checker at the publishers aletred the editors to the fact that "Chalice of Fire" is the symbol of the Unitarian Universalist Association." A pretty likely explanation, since the book seems to have been called "Chalice of Fire" at some point in its history. But, 'Goblet'? Even "Cup of Fire" would sound better. When I hear the word goblet I think of 'gobbet' and have a mental image of someone spitting a lump of meat at me across a meal table. Neil From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 05:01:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:01:00 -0400 Subject: USAmerican 'Wizards' and 'Witches'? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2955 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: USAmerican 'Wizards' and 'Witches'? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2953] USAmerican 'Wizards' and 'Witches'? Date: 6/28/00 1:01 am (ET) >> Maybe romances blossomed between American wild wizards and their British teachers,leading to marriages, emigration, and the founding of USAmerica's first school of wizardry and witchcraft - probably in the San Fernando Valley or in Levittown! << Hehe... I can just imagine the new spin-off series _Valley Witches_: "Dude, like, these Dementor types are like, depressing to the max!" -Jen (who has little else besides that little bit of (out-of-date) fun-poking to say, as she's so exhausted she could sleep face down on the kitchen floor tonight) From christineoswell at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 05:07:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:07:00 -0400 Subject: USAmerican 'Wizards' and 'Witches'? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2956 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: USAmerican 'Wizards' and 'Witches'? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2953] USAmerican 'Wizards' and 'Witches'? Date: 6/28/00 1:07 am (ET) >>>>Assuming that the scorn and separation are for real (they might be faked, out of snobbery) and are shared by wizards world-wide, it appears likely that Native American wizards used their magic to hide and be safe from the Euro-American conquerors rather than to defend the Muggle Native Americans against the Euro-American conquerors. It also appears likely that the wizards of Europe and the British Isles didn't emigrate to America along with the Muggle colonists and pioneers. Well, I don't know if ALL wizard have that same attitude, after all there are a lot of mixed marriages and muggle born wizards. My guess would have been that maybe some of those wizard who didn't want to put up with the snobby ones immigrated to the "colonies" to start fresh without the prejudice. I would think, that unless all the USA wizards are (or were) native, then they had to have immigrated from somewhere.... Christine From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 05:08:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:08:00 -0400 Subject: Vicarious childhood via HP Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2957 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Vicarious childhood via HP Reply To: [Yahoo! #2949] Vicarious childhood via HP Date: 6/28/00 1:08 am (ET) Feel free to rant, JoAnna; you do it so well! The rant warning on the top of the page is an especially nice touch. From christineoswell at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 05:19:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:19:00 -0400 Subject: HP4 title Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2958 From: christineoswell Subject: re: HP4 title Reply To: [Yahoo! #2954] re: HP4 title Date: 6/28/00 1:19 am (ET) SPOILER SPACE * * * * * * * * * * * * * * >>>>>But, 'Goblet'? Even "Cup of Fire" would sound better. When I hear the word goblet I think of 'gobbet' and have a mental image of someone spitting a lump of meat at me across a meal table. It's funny, it seems that everyone has a negative image of the word goblet. For me it brings to mind ornate pewter vessels used by medieval noblemen at their feasts. I figure the peasants (who would be spitting meat at Neil) would be using tankards, the classy people at the head table would use goblets. It seems rather romantic to me.. Christine (who is a shameless romantic at heart and is cheering for R&H and H&G) From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 05:31:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:31:00 -0400 Subject: Going nuts waiting for Book 4? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2959 From: joywitch999 Subject: Going nuts waiting for Book 4? Date: 6/28/00 1:31 am (ET) Have you read every website, club, newsgroup, etc. associated with Harry Potter; designed 12 crossword puzzles; read each book so many times you practically have them memorized; written pages and pages of fan fiction; bought every book you can find that is vaguelly similar to HP [and so many of them come from the childrens section of the bookstore that the clerks are starting to look at you funny] and can't figure out what else to do with yourself until July 8? Here are some suggestions: 1. Speculate on parts of the first 3 books which have not been explained. Despite the tremendous amount of speculation on the various websites and groups, there remains a number of topics which are still untouched. For example, what are the 12 uses of dragon blood? [In case you dont remember, on Dumbledore's card in the Chocolate Frog, it says he is famous for discovering them. On some website somewhere it is rumored that one of the 12 uses is oven cleaner.] 2. List all the mythical creatures you have ever heard of -- elves, dwarves, fairies, ghosts, dragons, hobbits, trolls, etc. -- and figure out how many of them show up in the Harry Potter books. 3. Decide which 2 of the 5 electives -- Care of Magical Creatures, Divination, Arithmancy, Ancient Runes, Muggle Studies -- you would take in your third year at Hogwarts. Write a page or two about why. 4. Read Harry Potter and the Sorcerers Stone in another language. It's time to dig out that French grammar book from high school or that copy of 501 Spanish verbs. Not only is it a way of rereading the first HP book, but you can pretend it is educational! 5. Go to thrift stores to shop for your costume for all the midnight July 7 parties. Try to get all the pieces of your costume only at thrift stores; going to costume stores is too easy. [Although the pointy witch hat is pretty hard, you may have to make it yourself] 6. Use architectural software to design your version of Hogwarts. Don't forget the turrets! Well, folks, that's all I can come up with right now. I'll try to have more suggestions by tomorrow, that is, if they don't lock me up first! From davehoz at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 06:12:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:12:00 -0400 Subject: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2960 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Reply To: [Yahoo! #2938] Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Date: 6/28/00 2:12 am (ET) >I'm not surprised the chess set was ready for another game after Quirrell passed it... What gets me is why did Hermione say, "McGonnegal transfigured the chess men to make them alive"? *All* wizard chess men are alive! Isn't what Minerva did was to make them life-size? >I suppose Snape could have put a spell on the bottles to refill and >replace themselves after being used, but would he have done so? Would >he have seen the need to add "that foolish wand waving"? Maybe Flitwick did it. > I almost wished Rowling had included a picture of >the line of bottles, so I could attempt that logic problem myself! I haven't gone through it, but is a picture necessary? BTW, I wonder who contributed the logic puzzle itself... Dumbledore? From davehoz at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 06:21:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 02:21:00 -0400 Subject: Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2961 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2944] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/28/00 2:21 am (ET) >Re-live my school boy and school girl glory days? OF COURSE!! >Though in my case I am vicariously remaking them... Me too... For me, high school was like going to a school with four houses, all of them Slytherin. From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 07:01:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 03:01:00 -0400 Subject: Strangest Rumor Yet!? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2962 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2961] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? Date: 6/28/00 3:01 am (ET) I went to the Lord-of-the-Flies Junior High School. >>>>>>Me too... For me, high school was like going to a school with four houses, all of them Slytherin. From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 08:07:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:07:00 -0400 Subject: Perceptions of women... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2963 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Perceptions of women... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2952] Re: Vicarious childhood via HP Date: 6/28/00 4:07 am (ET) "Size 14 is NOT fat, regardless of how my loathsome father's loathsome wife nagged me..... my current dress size is 26 (farewell to any dreams of starting a flirtation with someone here because no one here knows what I look like!)" Oh, I'm in complete agreement about that. Waaay too many women are given this totally unrealistic idea about what a woman should look like. Personally, those uberthin women do NOT attract me. I know it might sound odd, but I actually prefer women who look like real women. There can even be something about a "flaw" that I find charming if the woman has a really beautiful personality that actually makes me feel the beauty of the woman is enhanced. And as much as the media would also like to make you think all men are steriotypical pigs who just want their supermodels, I'll bet you'll find a lot of guys who agree with this. Maybe not all, but then again, I've met some pretty superficial and shallow women too. ;) Placed here as a public service message trying to dispel this stupid beauty myth we are force-fed as a culture. Jarnor23 From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 08:20:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 04:20:00 -0400 Subject: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2964 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Reply To: [Yahoo! #2960] Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Date: 6/28/00 4:20 am (ET) A picture would definately be necessary, I'd say, since the hints tell you about sizes and positions. I tried to solve it, but couldn't without a picture or diagram, and I'm pretty good at logic puzzles. However, I might be wrong about this - anyone else able to confirm or deny this? As far as the origin, I'd say Snape himself. He's no dummy, and it's his style of puzzle. Clever, and quite deadly if you screw up. ;) Jarnor23 From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 11:06:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:06:00 -0400 Subject: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2965 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Reply To: [Yahoo! #2935] Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Date: 6/28/00 7:06 am (ET) "2. How do the Dursleys send Harry a Xmas present (of sorts) each year? Does Hedwig go there? Does Hogwarts send an owl there? How do they know when to pick him up at King's Cross?" Harry sends Hedwig to them to tell him that he is staying at Hogwarts and I have always assumed that they send the 'presents' back by return of owl-post. I would guess something similar for when they pick him up. "I have an annoying SS/PS question of my own, about Snape's "spell" to protect the Stone. How and why did it "reset" itself?" The puzzle I believe would be solvable if we were told the size order of the books as we know everything else that the puzzle refers too. I would guess that the puzzle is set to magically return to its original state so that the next person could get through. Of course there is the possibility that you do not need the potion to get through and you can magically protect yourself, as in the witch burning topic. PoA question: Harry is amazed that Lupin knows his name after the dememntor incident on the train. Why is this as about a minute earlier Ron says his name infront of Lupin. Anagrams on the way soon - have to finish going through the book to find some more! Simon From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 13:27:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:27:00 -0400 Subject: Perceptions of women... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2966 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Re: Perceptions of women... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2963] Perceptions of women... Date: 6/28/00 9:27 am (ET) I am a size 20. There are many a day that I wish I was back down to the size 14. My mother kept putting me on diets in my teens, trying to get me "smaller" and "thinner" but she was a size 2 so what do u expect. The green bean and cracker/egg diet seemed to be her favorite. Now, I am finding it hard to stay on any diet; and I really want to lose the weight (health reasons). I know it's all a self-esteem thing, as well as genetic metabolism (take after dad's side rather than mom's skinny side, grr); but that doesn't make it easier when I go to school and see these 18 somethings who are so thin and well built with the Leonardo guys. Sighs. Weight's a sore subject for me. I am trying to keep my son on a good eating habits to start him off on the right foot. Dee From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 13:31:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:31:00 -0400 Subject: Hemione and Draco Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2967 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Hemione and Draco Reply To: [Yahoo! #2932] Re: Re:Strangest Rumor Yet!? (spoilers B Date: 6/28/00 9:31 am (ET) "Which does bring us up to a wierd question though... The main characters are all supposed to fall for wrong people in this next book. I'd argue that Draco is a main character, even if not a nice one. Who might he fall for that's the wrong person? ;)" I was pretty convinced by your arguements, which was roughly my point of view. I however was looking for someone who was 'wrong' for Hermione and similarly for Draco. To me there seems as if there would be no chance for those getting together. Having said that I am not sure if Draco actually is against muggle born wizards or not. To me it seems as if he was just doing what he dad expected of him. He had recently gained his place on Slytherin's quidditch team by his dad buying of the brooms. This would mean that, at that time, he would do whatever Lucius wanted to keep this good will going. Especially as Lucius was a school governer and so has some control over what happened at Hogwarts. Also, from Draco point of view, someone like Hermione would be considered totally inappropiate as girlfriend. For a young teenager such a strong opposition can prove to be attractive. Rebelling against the authority or parents etc... >From the Hermione point of view I see little reason for the two to get together! Simon (who has now totally confused himself!) From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 13:37:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:37:00 -0400 Subject: Names, Harry in particular Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2968 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Names, Harry in particular Reply To: [Yahoo! #2967] Re: Hemione and Draco Date: 6/28/00 9:37 am (ET) Just a pondering, Each time I read a English situated (not author, just the setting) book, the name of one of the characters ends up being Harry. Is the name Harry a significant one in English society--I know the royals named their son Harry, but some of these books date to before that time, so it makes me wonder what's up with this? Henry, yes, that makes sense, all the King Henry's! Dee From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 13:39:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:39:00 -0400 Subject: Perceptions of women.../men Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2969 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Perceptions of women.../men Reply To: [Yahoo! #2966] Re: Perceptions of women... Date: 6/28/00 9:39 am (ET) "genetic metabolism" Metabolism - it causes far too many problems. I have always been small and underweight for my age. This has nothing to do with lack of eating, the male members in my family have a very fast metabolism. I have always eaten tons of food but find it nearly impossible to put on weight. Simon From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 13:40:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:40:00 -0400 Subject: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2970 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Reply To: [Yahoo! #2965] Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Date: 6/28/00 9:40 am (ET) Funny...I love these questions, and don't find them annoying at all. As for how does Harry receive mail from the Dursley's...I like the Hedwig theory, although I can't imagine Mr. Dursley wanting to touch the owl. Because we know there is a large muggle born population at Hogwarts, I would suppose that they have the ability to receive "regular" mail...otherwise, people like Hermione will never hear from her parents! As for your question about Snape's puzzle...it is interesting...sort of chicken and the egg. The room must start with no fire at either the entrance or the exit...person walks in, magical fire springs up, and they have to choose the potion to move forward or move back. If the room "resets" itself, it would have done so after one person exited, but did not. Also, we know that Harry and Hermione walked into the room and the fire sprang up which means it somehow had returned to its original state...therefore, I think we can chalk this one up to, "Suspend your disbelief and enjoy the story" Interesting point tho...thank you for making me think about that one! - Hagrid http://www.hagridshut.com From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 13:46:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:46:00 -0400 Subject: Names, Harry in particular Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2971 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Names, Harry in particular Reply To: [Yahoo! #2968] Names, Harry in particular Date: 6/28/00 9:46 am (ET) "Each time I read a English situated (not author, just the setting) book, the name of one of the characters ends up being Harry." Harry was and still is one of the most popular childrens names in the UK. This popularity was added to when Prince Harry was born. I also think its popularity comes from its meaning as supplied by Joanna (thanks for this - it was very interesting). Harry means: Head of the house or warrior. This makes the name quite important etc... "Henry, yes, that makes sense, all the King Henry's!" Lots of Henry's in British history. If Prince Harry ever became king then he would almost certainly be named King Henry, the royal does not actually have to be crowned with their first name. Prince Charles has said that he would probably take a different name when he becomes king to Charles. This is due to the problems associated with some of the previous King Charles'. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 13:54:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 09:54:00 -0400 Subject: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2972 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Reply To: [Yahoo! #2970] Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Date: 6/28/00 9:54 am (ET) "If the room "resets" itself, it would have done so after one person exited, but did not." I am not sure why you think this is so. Maybe it takes account of everyone that comes in. If 2 people come in then it would reset only when both have left. This would explain how it acted when H&H were in there but also why it had rest itself after Quirrel had gone through. "Suspend your disbelief and enjoy the story" A very good idea, butit is still good fun to discuss what we think is going on at times! "I would suppose that they have the ability to receive "regular" mail...otherwise, people like Hermione will never hear from her parents!" Maybe the school provides owls for within UK trips for the children with no owls or with muggle parents so tehy can remain in touch with each other. In PS at the train station Fred and George say they will send lots of owls to Ginny but they have no owl to send and probably could not afford to use one from Hogsmeade all the time. Also Errol would be with their parents most of the time. Simon From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 14:06:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 10:06:00 -0400 Subject: Names, Harry in particular Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2973 From: GypsyCaine Subject: Re: Names, Harry in particular Reply To: [Yahoo! #2971] Re: Names, Harry in particular Date: 6/28/00 10:06 am (ET) I read alot of the garage sale signet romances (you buy them at garage sales 5 for a buck), and those are the ones that have Harry alot. I can understand the Prince's view on King Charles. You have had alot of strange kings, if I recall my world history properly--King George who talked to trees, King Charles and the spaniels. Then again, we have Bill Clinton, and Reagan. I think you folks are better off! Grins. Dee From s_ings at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 15:01:00 2000 From: s_ings at yahoo.com (S_Ings) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:01:00 -0400 Subject: Add another... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2974 From: S_Ings Subject: Add another... Date: 6/28/00 11:01 am (ET) to Ravenclaw! I finally took the time to get sorted and ended up just where I thought I would. thanks, Sheryll From christineoswell at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 15:03:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:03:00 -0400 Subject: egroups and yahoo Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2975 From: christineoswell Subject: egroups and yahoo Date: 6/28/00 11:03 am (ET) With all the trouble yahoo has been having lately, I remember someone saying that at least egroups doesn't have these problems. Well, egroups crashed the other night and was down for almost a day. They ended up doing unscheduled maitenance last night. This morning I received an email from egroups (being a moderator on a group) saying that yahoo and egroups are in the process of merging. I'm not sure if this will make yahoo better, or egroups worse! Just thought I'd share.... Christine From ashley_mcbrein at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 15:30:00 2000 From: ashley_mcbrein at yahoo.com (ashley_mcbrein) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:30:00 -0400 Subject: The History of Trasfiguration.... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2976 From: ashley_mcbrein Subject: The History of Trasfiguration.... Date: 6/28/00 11:30 am (ET) Here's a little bit I wrote up on my view on the history of transfiguration, it's for a Transfiguration Book I'm writing for one of the Hogwarts RPG's-so that's why is has Chapter 1 up there, but I thought you guys might enjoy it... http://www.geocities.com/ashleybalt/begchapt1.html ~Ashley~ From babynick34 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 15:53:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 11:53:00 -0400 Subject: Who Is Thomas Talyor Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2977 From: babynick34 Subject: Who Is Thomas Talyor Date: 6/28/00 11:53 am (ET) BOOK 4 - SPOILER WARNING S P O I L E R S P A C E The artist for the UK cover is a guy called Thomas Taylor it appears. The Daily Mail called me today to ask if I knew anything about him... I have never heard the name before - does anyone know who this person is? Nick. From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 16:34:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:34:00 -0400 Subject: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2978 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Reply To: [Yahoo! #2964] Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Date: 6/28/00 12:34 pm (ET) >>>A picture would definately be necessary, I'd say, since the hints tell you about sizes and positions. I tried to solve it, but couldn't without a picture or diagram, and I'm pretty good at logic puzzles. However, I might be wrong about this - anyone else able to confirm or deny this? I also spent some time trying to solve it and came to the same conclusion. Its a relief to find out that Im not the only one who actually tried to solve it! From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 16:41:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:41:00 -0400 Subject: Hemione and Draco Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2979 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Hemione and Draco Reply To: [Yahoo! #2967] Re: Hemione and Draco Date: 6/28/00 12:41 pm (ET) I think Hermione sounds the type to fall for an older student... someone not in her own year. They usually look more glamorous and manly, smarter and MORE MATURE to the girls. ;) (Especially after her crush on Lockhart, I expect her to fall into ALL the teenage romance traps, LOL!) From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 16:51:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:51:00 -0400 Subject: Names, Harry in particular Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2980 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Names, Harry in particular Reply To: [Yahoo! #2973] Re: Names, Harry in particular Date: 6/28/00 12:51 pm (ET) Can we assume that Harry was given the name *Harry* by his parents, not Harold or Henry? When McGonagall calls out the names of the students to be sorted, she does say 'Harry'. I looked to see how she calls out Ron's name, but we don't actually hear her say his name. Oddly, quite a few of the children have names that don't get shortened. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 17:08:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:08:00 -0400 Subject: Who Is Thomas Talyor Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2981 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Who Is Thomas Talyor Reply To: [Yahoo! #2977] Who Is Thomas Talyor Date: 6/28/00 1:08 pm (ET) BOOK 4 - SPOILER WARNING S P O I L E R S P A C E Unless I've got my facts wrong (again), Thomas Taylor did the artwork for Philosopher's Stone, and Cliff Wright took over for CoS and PoA. So, looks like they've switched back again. I have to say that there is huge difference between that pic of Harry standing in front of the Hogwarts Express on the front of Book 1, and the picture that is supposedly the cover of Book 4. Perhaps it just reflect the target age. I'm dying to know what they'll put on the front of the adult version of the book. If it follows the pattern, it will be a realstic B/W pic of a dragon. Neil PS - I'm also dying to respond to some of the interesting posts being made, but I have to get my brain into gear for that. From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 17:16:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:16:00 -0400 Subject: Yahoo wish list Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2982 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Yahoo wish list Date: 6/28/00 1:16 pm (ET) Apologies for the typographical errors in the last post - it's been a long day! As I was ploughing through all the old posts looking for something I'd said before, I thought: 'wouldn't it be nice if we could sort and group the messages by sender, so we could see really easily what we'd posted 300 posts ago?' Then I thought: 'wouldn't it be even better if we could search the message text within the club?' Assuming we can't do either of these things (tell me if we can!!!), I'm thinking of asking Yahoo if it's possible. There's such a mine of information in here, it deserves to be searchable... Neil From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 17:23:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:23:00 -0400 Subject: Names, Harry in particular Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2983 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Re: Names, Harry in particular Reply To: [Yahoo! #2980] Re: Names, Harry in particular Date: 6/28/00 1:23 pm (ET) "When McGonagall calls out the names of the students to be sorted, she does say 'Harry'. I looked to see how she calls out Ron's name, but we don't actually hear her say his name." I'd say his real is Harry. We don't get to see McGonagall call out Ron's real name, but Dumbledore does. When he gives out the last-minute points to Gryffindor at the end of SS/PS, he awards 50 points to "Ronald Weasley" and 60 to "Harry Potter". From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 17:40:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:40:00 -0400 Subject: Names, Harry in particular Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2984 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Names, Harry in particular Reply To: [Yahoo! #2980] Re: Names, Harry in particular Date: 6/28/00 1:40 pm (ET) Hi: <<<<Can we assume that Harry was given the name *Harry* by his parents, not Harold or Henry?>>> Yes, Yes, Yes! I have a running disagreement with the author of Paradigm of Uncertainty over this issue (she uses a "formal" name of Harold in several places in that fanfic). Harry is sometimes a nickname for Henry (Prince Harry is a good example of this), but it is typically not a nickname of Harold. It seems to most often, both in the UK and the US, be a given name unto itself. I wonder if the name Harry will gain even more popularity as a result of HP (my hubby and I have a running disagreement on this issue . . .) Penny From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 17:41:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:41:00 -0400 Subject: Names, Harry in particular Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2985 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Names, Harry in particular Reply To: [Yahoo! #2983] Re: Names, Harry in particular Date: 6/28/00 1:41 pm (ET) SPOILER WARNING!!!!!!!!!!! x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x I have heard a rumor that his full name is Harold James Potter, and that this will be confirmed in the next book. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 17:49:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:49:00 -0400 Subject: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2986 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Reply To: [Yahoo! #2960] Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Date: 6/28/00 1:49 pm (ET) Hi: <<What gets me is why did Hermione say, "McGonnegal transfigured the chess men to make them alive"? *All* wizard chess men are alive! Isn't what Minerva did was to make them life-size?>> I've wondered that too. I think she just made them life-size. As for the potions, I would say that maybe it was all re-set after Quirrell left. But, I always thought the fact that there was only enough potion for one meant that Quirrell had already had a swig out of that bottle. But, maybe it re-sets so there's only enough for one. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 17:55:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:55:00 -0400 Subject: POA Question Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2987 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: POA Question Reply To: [Yahoo! #2965] Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Date: 6/28/00 1:55 pm (ET) Hi: <<<PoA question: Harry is amazed that Lupin knows his name after the dememntor incident on the train. Why is this as about a minute earlier Ron says his name infront of Lupin.>>> Well, Harry was still dazed when he thought this. He probably didn't think about the fact that Ron & Hermione were calling his name, trying to revive him from the fainting spell. I think the other reason Lupin would know his name (even if neither Ron nor Hermione had said it) was that Harry looks just like his father, one of Lupin's best friends. Penny From brp13 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 17:58:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 13:58:00 -0400 Subject: USAmerican 'Wizards' and 'Witches'? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2988 From: brp13 Subject: Re: USAmerican 'Wizards' and 'Witches'? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2953] USAmerican 'Wizards' and 'Witches'? Date: 6/28/00 1:58 pm (ET) Well, if you think about it, it's obvious that Wizards have some muggle technology. The Hogwarts express for one. What's to say the Wizards just didn't discover America before Muggles did?? From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 18:03:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:03:00 -0400 Subject: Yahoo wish list Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2989 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Yahoo wish list Reply To: [Yahoo! #2982] Yahoo wish list Date: 6/28/00 2:03 pm (ET) Hi: <<<'wouldn't it be even better if we could search the message text within the club?'>>>> I would *love* if we could do this!! Penny (who spent a fair bit of time trying to find Melanie's old message with the 3 different breakdowns of the Myers/Briggs types into houses -- I was only 100 messages off) From brp13 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 18:06:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:06:00 -0400 Subject: Going nuts waiting for Book 4? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2990 From: brp13 Subject: Re: Going nuts waiting for Book 4? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2959] Going nuts waiting for Book 4? Date: 6/28/00 2:06 pm (ET) I like the first and last ones. I might do those if I had some time... Well, next week... From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 18:07:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:07:00 -0400 Subject: Names, Harry in particular Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2991 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Names, Harry in particular Reply To: [Yahoo! #2985] Re: Names, Harry in particular Date: 6/28/00 2:07 pm (ET) SPOILER WARNING!!!!!!!!!!! x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x x <<<I have heard a rumor that his full name is Harold James Potter, and that this will be confirmed in the next book.>>> Is this a Spoiler (confirmation) from the same person who confirmed Chalice of Flame was the title? Sorry . . . couldn't resist! I'm in the "wait and see mode" on this one. I agree with Melanie's analysis -- there are several instances where Ron is called Ronald and Harry is just Harry. Penny (who will be incredibly disappointed if his name is Harold) From brp13 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 18:16:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:16:00 -0400 Subject: Anyone up for some fun in 3 years? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2992 From: brp13 Subject: Anyone up for some fun in 3 years? Date: 6/28/00 2:16 pm (ET) What would be very fun to do is to take all of the rumors and whatnot from now off of this club and see what actually happens in 3 years, or whenever book 7 is released. It might even be fun to keep track of the B4 rumors and compare them to the actual B4. Comments? From brp13 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 18:19:00 2000 From: brp13 at yahoo.com (brp13) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:19:00 -0400 Subject: Spoiler/Rumor Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2993 From: brp13 Subject: Spoiler/Rumor Date: 6/28/00 2:19 pm (ET) Maybe instead of using SPOILER for every little rumor that we've heard from some unnamed sorce we should split to 2 things. 1 being RUMOR, and those not even wanting to hear the rumors should be ware of those topics, and one for SPOILERS, meaning you either have some inside info or the day has finally arrived or something else like that. From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 18:21:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:21:00 -0400 Subject: Names, Harry in particular Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2994 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Names, Harry in particular Reply To: [Yahoo! #2991] Re: Names, Harry in particular Date: 6/28/00 2:21 pm (ET) This has nothing to do with Harry's "real" name as it will be revealed or anything - just the name Harry (and Harold) in general. I always thought that Harry was a diminuative (sp?) of Henry or (less common) Harrison. I knew a guy in junior high/high school named Harold, and his nickname was Hal. In fact, the only Harolds I've ever heard of were always called Hal. Of course, that doesn't mean much, since Henry V was called Hal (right? I'm taking this from Shakespeare, and I can't remember which play has the young Hal causing trouble. Wasn't that Henry IV?). Anyway, if Harry's real name were to be Harold, it seems to me that he would more likely have the nickname Hal. Just a personal opinion. Jen Ps. The guy in high school named Hal? He changed his name in our senior year to "Christopher". Of course, he gets really ticked off when his classmates call him Hal anyway. ;) me again. Ps. I really don't like Hal - he once told his whole gym class that he had a "sexy dream" about my little sister. Of course, he also told our entire class that he was going to be a gynecologist when he "grew up". Question: why on EARTH would you tell your classmates this? Did he think the girls would go out with him if he were going to be one? ;) Jen (again, and I'm sorry for going so off-topic here) From crinkle25 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 18:32:00 2000 From: crinkle25 at yahoo.com (crinkle25) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:32:00 -0400 Subject: Names, Harry in particular Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2995 From: crinkle25 Subject: Re: Names, Harry in particular Reply To: [Yahoo! #2991] Re: Names, Harry in particular Date: 6/28/00 2:32 pm (ET) But, er...Chalice of Flame isn't the title. It's Gobet of Fire, no? From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 18:41:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:41:00 -0400 Subject: Names, Harry in particular Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2996 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Names, Harry in particular Reply To: [Yahoo! #2994] Re: Names, Harry in particular Date: 6/28/00 2:41 pm (ET) Hi: <<<I always thought that Harry was a diminuative (sp?) of Henry or (less common) Harrison.>>> It definitely is a dimunitive of Henry, but it's more often a name on its own. My husband's family has several Harrys, and they are all just Harry. Harry S. Truman was just Harry. The name Harry is everywhere in books & movies (maybe I notice it more, now??). Anyway . . . I do think it's most common for it to just be Harry. <<I knew a guy in junior high school named Harold, and his nickname was Hal. In fact, the only Harolds I've ever heard of were always called Hal.>>> Me too. And name books don't list Harry as a nickname for Harold. They give it as a name on its own and then say "sometimes a nickname for Henry." Penny From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 18:43:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:43:00 -0400 Subject: Names, Harry in particular Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2997 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Names, Harry in particular Reply To: [Yahoo! #2991] Re: Names, Harry in particular Date: 6/28/00 2:43 pm (ET) No, I read this somewhere else. Can't remember where. I think the Chalice of Flame source is quite reliable. That title was close enough for gas for me. Books often go through a number of working titles, and I imagine without any dificulty that they may have wanted to avoid any religious connotations. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 18:46:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:46:00 -0400 Subject: Title Rumor (Rumor/Spoiler) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2998 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Title Rumor (Rumor/Spoiler) Reply To: [Yahoo! #2995] Re: Names, Harry in particular Date: 6/28/00 2:46 pm (ET) SPOILER * * * * * * * * <<<But, er...Chalice of Flame isn't the title. It's Gobet of Fire, no?>> Yes, hence my sarcasm. I was asking if the same person who said the title was Chalice of Flame is the one saying that it will be confirmed that Harry's full name is Harold James Potter. Since they were wrong about the title . . . I'm not so sure I'm trusting any other rumors from that particular source. <g> P.S. Please use spoiler space for things like that. I do like the suggestion of distinguishing between RUMORS and SPOILERS though. Penny From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 18:53:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 14:53:00 -0400 Subject: Names, Harry in particular Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C2999 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Names, Harry in particular Reply To: [Yahoo! #2996] Re: Names, Harry in particular Date: 6/28/00 2:53 pm (ET) >>It definitely is a dimunitive of Henry, but it's more often a name on its own. << Oh - I didn't mean that Harry could only be a nickname - I just meant that if it were one, it would be more likely from Henry than from Harold. Jen From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 19:03:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:03:00 -0400 Subject: Spoiler/Rumor Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3000 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Re: Spoiler/Rumor Reply To: [Yahoo! #2993] Spoiler/Rumor Date: 6/28/00 3:03 pm (ET) I agree. I don't mind reading little rumors, but spoilers are definately right out for me. I wouldn't mind seeing them labeled differently at all. Thanks for the suggestion, I hope other people like it as well, because I'd love to see it used! Jarnor23 From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 19:03:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:03:00 -0400 Subject: Names, Harry in particular:OFF TOPIC Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3001 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Names, Harry in particular:OFF TOPIC Reply To: [Yahoo! #2996] Re: Names, Harry in particular Date: 6/28/00 3:03 pm (ET) >>>Harry S. Truman was just Harry. Not only was Harry S. Truman just Harry (and not Harold or Harrison), he really was just Harry Truman. The middle initial, S, did not stand for anything -- Truman just added it to his name at some point because he thought he needed a middle initial. [According to something I read, anyway.] I know this is off topic, but I thought it was sort of kind of interesting, maybe. From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 19:04:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:04:00 -0400 Subject: Wow, message 3000! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3002 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Wow, message 3000! Date: 6/28/00 3:04 pm (ET) Do I win a cookie, or a bag of Chocolate Frogs or anything? :) Jarnor23 From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 19:31:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:31:00 -0400 Subject: Off-Topic (Harry Truman) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3003 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Off-Topic (Harry Truman) Reply To: [Yahoo! #3001] Re: Names, Harry in particular:OFF TOPIC Date: 6/28/00 3:31 pm (ET) Hi: <<<Not only was Harry S. Truman just Harry (and not Harold or Harrison), he really was just Harry Truman. The middle initial, S, did not stand for anything -- Truman just added it to his name at some point because he thought he needed a middle initial. [According to something I read, anyway.]>>> Actually, David McCullough's Truman bio is one of my all-time favorite books so . . . The initial "S" was not added by Truman himself. His parents just gave him the initial because they couldn't decide whether his middle name should be after his maternal grandfather, Solomon, or his paternal grandfather, Shipp. Penny (full of interesting tidbits today) From gypsycaine at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 19:53:00 2000 From: gypsycaine at yahoo.com (GypsyCaine) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:53:00 -0400 Subject: A Rose By any Other Name Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3004 From: GypsyCaine Subject: A Rose By any Other Name Reply To: [Yahoo! #3003] Off-Topic (Harry Truman) Date: 6/28/00 3:53 pm (ET) I knew a harold at work. Everyone there called him Harry--but that was at Wendy's, LOL! Dee From houston425 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 20:10:00 2000 From: houston425 at yahoo.com (houston425) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:10:00 -0400 Subject: Book Magazine Interview Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3005 From: houston425 Subject: Book Magazine Interview Date: 6/28/00 4:10 pm (ET) Here is an article on JK Rowling that I found in a magazine. Luckily they have it posted on their website. Make sure to read the timeline as well because it does answer some things such as "Does JK own a computer?" Yes... at least according to the timeline. Laurie http://www.bookmagazine.com/may2000/potter.shtml From Danemead at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 20:17:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:17:00 -0400 Subject: Off-Topic (Harry Truman) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3006 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Off-Topic (Harry Truman) Reply To: [Yahoo! #3003] Off-Topic (Harry Truman) Date: 6/28/00 4:17 pm (ET) >>>His parents just gave him the initial because they couldn't decide whether his middle name should be after his maternal grandfather, Solomon, or his paternal grandfather, Shipp. <<<<< LOL! Reminds me of why Richie Petrie of "The Dick Van Dyke Show" had the middle name of Rosebud. From lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 20:38:00 2000 From: lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com (lady_emerlyn) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:38:00 -0400 Subject: Yahoo wish list Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3007 From: lady_emerlyn Subject: Re: Yahoo wish list Reply To: [Yahoo! #2989] Re: Yahoo wish list Date: 6/28/00 4:38 pm (ET) Merry Meet, I have hear much about this sorting-hat of Melanie's. I spent much of yesterday trying to find it and my boss spent much of her time trying to get me off of the computer. If you would tell me what number that is so I can find my way "home" I would be much obliged. Thanks--- Jess From houston425 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 20:40:00 2000 From: houston425 at yahoo.com (houston425) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:40:00 -0400 Subject: Chess pieces Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3008 From: houston425 Subject: Chess pieces Date: 6/28/00 4:40 pm (ET) Have we ever seen the chess pieces playing by themselves before? I know they are alive in the sense that they move where their players tell them to move, but do they play by themselves? Maybe this is what Hermione meant when she said McGonagall made them alive. Ron directs the black pieces but not the white ones. Just a thought. Laurie From davehoz at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 20:46:00 2000 From: davehoz at yahoo.com (davehoz) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 16:46:00 -0400 Subject: Off-Topic (Harry Truman) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3009 From: davehoz Subject: Re: Off-Topic (Harry Truman) Reply To: [Yahoo! #3006] Re: Off-Topic (Harry Truman) Date: 6/28/00 4:46 pm (ET) >Reminds me of why Richie Petrie of "The Dick Van Dyke Show" >had the middle name of Rosebud. Also why the Wizard of Oz's full name is Oscar Pinhead Zoroaster. (PINHEAD = Phadrig Isaac Norman Henkle Emmannuel Ambroise Diggs... The remaining initials O.Z. is why the citizens of *OZ* mistook him for their wizard in the first place.) From babynick34 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 21:26:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:26:00 -0400 Subject: Who Is Thomas Talyor Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3010 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Who Is Thomas Talyor Reply To: [Yahoo! #2981] Re: Who Is Thomas Talyor Date: 6/28/00 5:26 pm (ET) BOOK 4 - SPOILER WARNING S P O I L E R S P A C E Neil.. you are quite right, it wasn't until I got home that I realised that I had heard the name before - Thomas Taylor had done the illustration for Philosophers Stone (Canada and UK covers). I agree about the difference between the pic on PS and GoF... I think that The Mail may have some facts wrong, as i think GoF picture is more of a Cliff Wright design than a Thomas Taylor. Though of course it could well be something to do with the change in target age. So... anyone have a B/W pic of a dragon dating back to the prehistoric days? Didn't think so. Maybe they will use a pic of Drago from Dragonheart! >PS - I'm also dying to respond to some of the interesting posts being made, but I have to get my brain into gear for that. I've got to find the time to even read them, yet alone respond! Why is work so busy... if only it would be quiet - then I can spend my time reading this group. Nick. From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 21:47:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:47:00 -0400 Subject: Chess and names Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3011 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Chess and names Reply To: [Yahoo! #2986] Re: Some Annoying SS (or PS) Questions Date: 6/28/00 5:47 pm (ET) Chess Pieces: "I've wondered that too. I think she just made them life-size." This is probably that she made them think and play chess by themselves. In no other book is it mentioned that they can play by their selves. They, however, seem to be able to offer advice to the players. Harry: This is interesting because in PoU (the fanfic Paridgm of Uncertainty) he is refered to as Harold. This surprised me because on reading the books he is always called Harry with no suggestion of any other name. Petunia calls him Harry at the beginning of the first book. I just cannot see JKR have getting us this far through the series calling him by a nickname. I could see that he may have another middle name that we have not yet been told. Spoiler/Rumour: I would consider a rumour to be a spoiler as it is possibly true. A lot of what has been reported are taken from JKR interviews and so should be considered as spoilers even though we do not know them to be true as we have not yet seen book 4. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 21:47:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:47:00 -0400 Subject: Who Is Thomas Talyor Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3012 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Who Is Thomas Talyor Reply To: [Yahoo! #2981] Re: Who Is Thomas Talyor Date: 6/28/00 5:47 pm (ET) BOOK 4 - SPOILER WARNING S P O I L E R S P A C E "Unless I've got my facts wrong (again), Thomas Taylor did the artwork for Philosopher's Stone, and Cliff Wright took over for CoS and PoA. So, looks like they've switched back again." This si interesting because the moment I looked at the picture I got the impression it was by the same person as PoA. It could be that TT has looked at CW covers and and decided to do something similar. "pic of Harry standing in front of the Hogwarts Express on the front of Book 1, and the picture that is supposedly the cover of Book 4. Perhaps it just reflect the target age." IMHO the picture of Harry in book 1 looks right but the ones for CoS and PoA made him look much older than the 12/13 he is in the book. Simon From triner2001 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 21:49:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:49:00 -0400 Subject: Thoughts on various things Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3013 From: triner2001 Subject: Thoughts on various things Date: 6/28/00 5:49 pm (ET) Last night I was thinking about Moaning Myrtle and the question of whether or not the basilisk's stare could penetrate glass. Well, she was crying, and if you've ever tried crying while wearing a pair of glasses, you usually wind up taking them off, since they get wet, steamy, & slip off your nose. I puzzled over the camera thing and can only guess that it has something to with the lenses in the viewfinder. And all the discussion about Harry's full name. No matter what it is, he'll always be plain old "Harry" to me. Look at Hawkeye Pierce on M*A*S*H, I know his full name is Benjamin Franklin Pierce, but he'll always be Hawkeye to me. I think someone posted a question about Fred's turning Ron's teddy bear into a spider when he (Fred) was 5 and why didn't the Restriction of Underage Sorcery didn't apply. Perhaps accidental use of magic by a child yet untrained in the ways of magic does not fall under the restriction. Otherwise, Harry would've gotten several prior to his entrance to Hogwarts (turning his teacher's hair blue, setting free the python, etc) If I have repeated myself in any way, I apologize. I had very little sleep last night. Trina From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 21:54:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 17:54:00 -0400 Subject: Thoughts on various things Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3014 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Thoughts on various things Reply To: [Yahoo! #3013] Thoughts on various things Date: 6/28/00 5:54 pm (ET) "...the basilisk's stare... I puzzled over the camera thing and can only guess that it has something to with the lenses in the viewfinder. " In some cameras you do not look directly but instead look via a series of mirror to make sure your view is as close to the actual picture as possible. Simon From maxine450 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 22:10:00 2000 From: maxine450 at yahoo.com (maxine450) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:10:00 -0400 Subject: Book title of HP4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3015 From: maxine450 Subject: Book title of HP4 Date: 6/28/00 6:10 pm (ET) The book title is Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire Goblet of fire? strange,.... =-)maxine From hert0661 at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 22:16:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:16:00 -0400 Subject: Bloomsbury Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3016 From: hert0661 Subject: Bloomsbury Date: 6/28/00 6:16 pm (ET) Bloomsbury (UK publisher of HP) have a new Harry Potter website and it is working now. On this site they maintain that the book title will not be revealed until the 8th but then on their online shop they tell you the title. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 22:39:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:39:00 -0400 Subject: Bloomsbury Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3017 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Bloomsbury Reply To: [Yahoo! #3016] Bloomsbury Date: 6/28/00 6:39 pm (ET) "On this site they maintain that the book title will not be revealed until the 8th but then on their online shop they tell you the title." Bloomsbury don't seem geared up for such a *huge* book, to be honest. They must have thought all their Christmasses had come at once when they signed JK Rowling! Er, do you spell Christmasses like that? Neil From estesrandy at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 22:49:00 2000 From: estesrandy at yahoo.com (estesrandy) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:49:00 -0400 Subject: A Rose By any Other Name Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3018 From: estesrandy Subject: Re: A Rose By any Other Name Reply To: [Yahoo! #3004] A Rose By any Other Name Date: 6/28/00 6:49 pm (ET) "Her name was McGill, and she called herself Lil. But everyone new her as Nancy..." The Beatles Rocky Racoon The White Album From pt4ever at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 22:53:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:53:00 -0400 Subject: Perceptions of women... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3019 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Perceptions of women... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2963] Perceptions of women... Date: 6/28/00 6:53 pm (ET) >>> Oh, I'm in complete agreement about that. Waaay too many women are given this totally unrealistic idea about what a woman should look like. Personally, those uberthin women do NOT attract me. I know it might sound odd, but I actually prefer women who look like real women. There can even be something about a "flaw" that I find charming if the woman has a really beautiful personality that actually makes me feel the beauty of the woman is enhanced. And as much as the media would also like to make you think all men are steriotypical pigs who just want their supermodels, I'll bet you'll find a lot of guys who agree with this. Maybe not all, but then again, I've met some pretty superficial and shallow women too. ;) >>> Will you marry me? *grin* -- JoAnna P.S. Minneapolis...that's about 4 hours from my hometown! :) From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 22:54:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:54:00 -0400 Subject: Web sites and sorting hats Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3020 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Web sites and sorting hats Reply To: [Yahoo! #3007] Re: Yahoo wish list Date: 6/28/00 6:54 pm (ET) Thank you for your interest. You can find my sorting hat on my web site at: http://www.geocities.com/ravenclawlady/sorting.html. To make it easier for newbies to find, I think I'll add my site to this club's links. That way, no one has to search through 3000+ messages for to find it. Speaking of web sites, who else on this list has an HP one (I know Hagrid and Dave do)? I was thinking, if the rest of you are interested, we could form a sort of web ring, or maybe put links to each other's sites and pages on our own sites. Maybe (if Penny agrees) the FAQ page could even have a link to this list, to show people how "anti-Potter" (NOT!) we are. If anyone else is interested, e-mail me privately at ravenclawlady at yahoo.com. Melanie From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 22:58:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 18:58:00 -0400 Subject: Web sites and sorting hats Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3021 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Re: Web sites and sorting hats Reply To: [Yahoo! #3020] Web sites and sorting hats Date: 6/28/00 6:58 pm (ET) Oops, the other link has a typo. That is, the ending period came out as part of the link. Try this one: http://www.geocities.com/ravenclawlady/sorting.html From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 23:02:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:02:00 -0400 Subject: Book Covers from Around the World Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3022 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Book Covers from Around the World Date: 6/28/00 7:02 pm (ET) Thanks Skimmel for posting those enlarged enhanced Danish covers -- I finally got a chance to look at them just now. It's still a little hard to tell if Harry has glasses or not on those covers, but even if not, they are still the best (IMO). Penny From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 23:04:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:04:00 -0400 Subject: Harry - the name Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3023 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Harry - the name Date: 6/28/00 7:04 pm (ET) Mr Dursley ponders over Harry's name at the start of PS - "it might have been Harvey. Or Harold." This suggests that he, and possibly JK Rowling, regard Harry and Harold as different names. As far as I'm aware, Harry is a given name in its own right and is also used as a shortened form of Henry *and* Harold, with Hal also being a short form of Harold. So, everyone is right! Harry is not really a nickname and I feel sure that the Dursleys would call our hero 'Harold' if that was his given name, because - 1. They are pompous and like to put on 'airs and graces'; 2. Calling him 'Harry' would be an unusually friendly move for them; 3. They are always shouting at him, and people who yell at kids invariably revert to their full name. My secretary tells me that she gauges people's moods by what they call her. If they call her "Jack", they're being familiar and probably want something, "Jackie" conveys a normal situation, and "Jacqueline" is reserved for severe lectures (usually from her mother). Of course, it only works if you have a long name. My mother has another one for when she's annoyed with me. It's [SPOILER]...! Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 23:18:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:18:00 -0400 Subject: Book Covers from Around the World Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3024 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Book Covers from Around the World Reply To: [Yahoo! #3022] Book Covers from Around the World Date: 6/28/00 7:18 pm (ET) I like the Danish covers too. They have a really magical feel about them which is missing in some of the other artwork. Does anyone agree that on the first book (Danish) Harry looks Oriental? He also looks a bit Asian on CoS (and in fairytale costume instead of normal clothes, for some reason). The PoA cover has the best Buckbeak of the lot, but the Hermione and Harry don't quite match my image of them... Neil From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 23:22:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:22:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers/Briggs -- Sorting Hat of Sorts Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3025 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Meyers/Briggs -- Sorting Hat of Sorts Date: 6/28/00 7:22 pm (ET) Hi: The other messages some of you might be interested in with respect to figuring out which house you might end up relate to the Meyers/Briggs personality test results. If you want a link to a personality test that produces similar results to Meyers/Briggs, here it is: http://www.keirsey.com/cgi-bin/newkts.cgi The message where Melanie summarized the 3 basic ways to look at the 4-letter test code (INFJ for example is mine) is Message 1435. 3 different people came up with a way to use those 4-letter personality types and "sort" them into the 4 Hogwarts Houses. Melanie's website has a more individualized Sorting Hat function. I liked my results under her test better (Ravenclaw) than the Meyers/Briggs (Hufflepuff). Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 23:28:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:28:00 -0400 Subject: Harry - the name Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3026 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Harry - the name Reply To: [Yahoo! #3023] Harry - the name Date: 6/28/00 7:28 pm (ET) Hi: <<<Mr Dursley ponders over Harry's name at the start of PS - "it might have been Harvey. Or Harold." This suggests that he, and possibly JK Rowling, regard Harry and Harold as different names.>>>>> Thanks Neil -- that's yet another great reason he likely isn't Harold Potter. And, I like your other Dursley-ish clues why his name is likely Harry. Correct me if I'm wrong but I always thought JKR was slyly poking fun at the Dursleys early on with that dialogue. Aunt Petunia says her nephew's name is "Harry -- nasty common name." In the UK, isn't Dudley actually regarded as a more "common" name (as opposed to upper-crust) than Harry (no offense to any Dudleys out there --I'm speaking in generalities here)? In other words, wouldn't most upper-class Brits favor Harry over Dudley? I have that impression, and so I always felt like it was just a little jab at the pretensions of the Dursleys. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 23:30:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:30:00 -0400 Subject: Book Covers from Around the World Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3027 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Book Covers from Around the World Reply To: [Yahoo! #3024] Re: Book Covers from Around the World Date: 6/28/00 7:30 pm (ET) Hi again -- <<<Does anyone agree that on the first book (Danish) Harry looks Oriental? He also looks a bit Asian on CoS (and in fairytale costume instead of normal clothes, for some reason). The PoA cover has the best Buckbeak of the lot, but the Hermione and Harry don't quite match my image of them...>>> I think he looks a bit Native American from what I can see of him. But, even though I'm not perhaps too wild about the rendering of Harry, I do like the overall feel of those covers the best. Buckbeak is definitely best portrayed on the Danish cover art -- I agree Neil. Penny From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 23:36:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:36:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers/Briggs -- Sorting Hat of Sort Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3028 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Re: Meyers/Briggs -- Sorting Hat of Sort Reply To: [Yahoo! #3025] Meyers/Briggs -- Sorting Hat of Sorts Date: 6/28/00 7:36 pm (ET) <Melanie's website has a more individualized Sorting Hat function. I liked my results under her test better (Ravenclaw) than the Meyers/Briggs (Hufflepuff).> I knew how much you wanted to be a Ravenclaw, and I'd seen the intelligence in your messages. The human side of the hat (me) was tempted to put you in Ravenclaw without bothering to even tally your results <g> But don't worry. I did count them up, and your answers were, overwhelmingly, Ravenclaw. Melanie From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 23:45:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:45:00 -0400 Subject: Harry - the name Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3029 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Harry - the name Reply To: [Yahoo! #3026] Re: Harry - the name Date: 6/28/00 7:45 pm (ET) "Correct me if I'm wrong but I always thought JKR was slyly poking fun at the Dursleys early on with that dialogue." Absolutely! You're right. I certainly wouldn't regard Harry as a downmarket name, as Petunia implies. It's a very 'middle-class, boarding school and ski slope' sort of name. As a name, Dudley is really not that well known (Dudley Moore is its main promoter). The interesting thing about it is that it could associate with the place Dudley, in Birmingham. In Britain, a Birmingham [Brum] accent is regarded as being one of the least attractive and I'd wager it's impossible to sound posh if you're from that area of the country. If the Dursleys were blessed with Birmingham accents, that would work very well against their pomposity, IMHO. Neil who also came out as INFJ in the Meyers-Briggs, but wasn't sure where it left him... From paperboy_15_year_old at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 23:46:00 2000 From: paperboy_15_year_old at yahoo.com (paperboy_15_year_old) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:46:00 -0400 Subject: 10 DAYS AND COUNTING Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3030 From: paperboy_15_year_old Subject: RE: 10 DAYS AND COUNTING Date: 6/28/00 7:46 pm (ET) 10 days till "HARRY POTTER AND THE GOBLET OF FIRE" Can you wait? Loose lips sink English ships. Now we know the title of book 4. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 23:50:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:50:00 -0400 Subject: HP Blurb in Newsweek Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3031 From: plinsenmayer Subject: HP Blurb in Newsweek Date: 6/28/00 7:50 pm (ET) Hi: I'm quite perturbed -- there's a blurb in the front section of Newsweek on the effect of HP on Scholastic's stock price. Great! But, the illustration of Harry is the worst I've *ever* seen (worse than the Finnish coverart Skimmel posted last week)!! He looks like he's on drugs -- literally. He looks completely stoned. His eyes are half open and he has very prominent teeth. Very very weird!! Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Wed Jun 28 23:53:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 19:53:00 -0400 Subject: NY Times Bestseller List Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3032 From: plinsenmayer Subject: NY Times Bestseller List Date: 6/28/00 7:53 pm (ET) Hi: I think I'm on a personal mission today to get us up to 4000 messages -- sorry for all the posting. The *other* thing about the HP piece in Newsweek is that this blurb claims that the NY Times Book Review has decided to do the separate children's bestseller list. Say it ain't so!!! I just mailed my protest letter last week . . . Penny From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 00:36:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:36:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3033 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3029] Re: Harry - the name Date: 6/28/00 8:36 pm (ET) <who also came out as INFJ in the Meyers-Briggs, but wasn't sure where it left him...> You could be in any one of three houses. Suzanne's definition would put you in Ravenclaw, Dave's would put you in Gryffindor, and mine would put you in Hufflepuff. I just took that test, and this time, came out as INFP. But then, when I originally took it, I was borderline between J and P (with one point higher for J). And, since J and P made no difference in anyone's definition, I'm still in the same three houses (Ravenclaw from Suzanne, Gryffindor from Dave and Hufflepuff from myself). Melanie From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 00:48:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:48:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3034 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3033] Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/28/00 8:48 pm (ET) "You could be in any one of three houses. Suzanne's definition would put you in Ravenclaw, Dave's would put you in Gryffindor, and mine would put you in Hufflepuff." Exactly - where do I go? Neil From pt4ever at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 01:29:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:29:00 -0400 Subject: HP webpage Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3035 From: pt4ever Subject: HP webpage Date: 6/28/00 9:29 pm (ET) I have a rather pathetic HP page... http://www.geocities.com/pt4ever/harrypotter.html I hope put some more stuff on there soon; maybe a link to this club. I'm also working on some Harry Potter fanfic that I might post (when it's finished, which at this rate will be when Harry's a seventh year...) :) -- JoAnna From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 01:46:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 21:46:00 -0400 Subject: Add another... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3036 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Add another... Reply To: [Yahoo! #2974] Add another... Date: 6/28/00 9:46 pm (ET) > to Ravenclaw! The Ravenclaw table claps and cheers and shouts "Welcome, Sheryll!" From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 02:02:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:02:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3037 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3034] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/28/00 10:02 pm (ET) <"You could be in any one of three houses. Suzanne's definition would put you in Ravenclaw, Dave's would put you in Gryffindor, and mine would put you in Hufflepuff." Exactly - where do I go?> Let's see, the three houses would fight over you until you either graduated or Slytherin sneaked off with you <bg>. But seriously, this just means the hat would take longer to sort you than some. It might even let you choose your house. That's actually the reason, in my quiz, I let the sortee pick their first and last choice. When I tally the results, if there is a tie between houses (one of which is their first choice), I give them their first choice. And I won't put them in their last choice, no matter what. As an aside, I sometimes regret that Harry is the only one we've seen "converse" with the Sorting Hat. I'd love to see the dialogue between the hat and other characters. For example, I'd like to see the process in choosing Neville's house (since the book mentions that it took a long time to sort him). And I can picture it for Hermione: Hat: Hmmm! Very intelligent, and a hunger to learn. You'd do well in Ra---. Hermione: Gryffindor, please, Gryffindor! Hat: Gryffindor, huh? Yes, I do see that untapped courage. Well, if you're sure... Hermione: Yes, I want to be a Gryffindor. Hat: Well then...GRYFFINDOR! Melanie PS: In answer to your original question, Neil, you're a Gryffindor in my book (though my definition put your type in Hufflepuff). From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 02:10:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:10:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3038 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3037] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/28/00 10:10 pm (ET) I can see I'll have to take Melanie's test... Just to be sure. But not now, as it's - oooh - 3.10am Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 02:46:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:46:00 -0400 Subject: How long IS eternity? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3039 From: Danemead Subject: How long IS eternity? Date: 6/28/00 10:46 pm (ET) One of the factoids floating around in various articles about Book 4 is "The book's ending will be very frightening indeed." Is there enough chocolate in the world to get us through an ENTIRE YEAR waiting to find out what happens next? I think I better go find a competent psychiatrist to help me through the pain... From Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 02:57:00 2000 From: Skimmel_98 at yahoo.com (Skimmel_98) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 22:57:00 -0400 Subject: Book Covers from Around the World Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3040 From: Skimmel_98 Subject: Re: Book Covers from Around the World Reply To: [Yahoo! #3027] Re: Book Covers from Around the World Date: 6/28/00 10:57 pm (ET) The Danish Buckbeak is the best... though I think I would have positioned the rear legs differently. Overall though, my favorite cover of the bunch is the Swedish cover to Philosopher's Stone. It captures the essential magical spirit of the book without giving away anything about the story. It is the cover that keeps drawing me back over and over again. The Swedish Chamber of Secrets is good and I think has the best Fawkes of the bunch. I am very curious if anyone knows whether there has been a Swedish version of Prisoner of Azkaban. I can't find a cover for it anywhere. From triner2001 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 03:26:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:26:00 -0400 Subject: Miscellanea Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3041 From: triner2001 Subject: Miscellanea Date: 6/28/00 11:26 pm (ET) Just did the Meyer-Briggs test and that put me in Hufflepuff. Melanie's sorting hat put me in Ravenclaw. I suppose it just means I am a multi-faceted person who is "just and loyal, patient & unafraid of toil" as well as having "a ready mind" with "wit and learning." Also, in all the discussion of the HP covers, I've only just noticed on the US covers Harry apparently has brown eyes. Hmmm... Oh and my opinion of the Finnish Harry: if that's what Harry looks like, no wonder the Sorting Hat wanted to put him in Slytherin! Man, he looks like a thug! <g> Trina From joywitch999 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 03:40:00 2000 From: joywitch999 at yahoo.com (joywitch999) Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:40:00 -0400 Subject: Book Covers from Around the World Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3042 From: joywitch999 Subject: Re: Book Covers from Around the World Reply To: [Yahoo! #3040] Re: Book Covers from Around the World Date: 6/28/00 11:40 pm (ET) Is it my imagination or does the Finnish Chamber of Secrets have a guy in a suit in the background? Is that supposed to be Dumbledore???????????????????????????? From trackgirl16 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 04:04:00 2000 From: trackgirl16 at yahoo.com (trackgirl16) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:04:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3043 From: trackgirl16 Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3033] Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/29/00 12:04 am (ET) Has anyone tried Fawke's Sorting hat? (fawkes.cjb.net) It's completely random, which I use to justify my terrible placements: Slytherin, Slytherin, Hufflepuff. I guess it couldn't decide whether I was more evil or ignorant! :) Kris From christineoswell at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 04:57:00 2000 From: christineoswell at yahoo.com (christineoswell) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 00:57:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3044 From: christineoswell Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3033] Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/29/00 12:57 am (ET) I'm an INFP, and according to Suzanne's that makes me a Ravenclaw. I took Melanie's Sorting Test, and that put me in Ravenclaw as well, so that is where I'm happy be. I can't say I really looked at where the others put me, since this is where I want to be. Christine From dee_97527 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 05:20:00 2000 From: dee_97527 at yahoo.com (dee_97527) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 01:20:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3045 From: dee_97527 Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3044] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/29/00 1:20 am (ET) Melanie's sorting Test put me in Ravenclaw (yes). With the Meyers-Briggs I am an ESTP, Slytherin all the way. I guess that makes me a smart snake in the grass. Diann From ravenclawlady at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 06:37:00 2000 From: ravenclawlady at yahoo.com (ravenclawlady) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 02:37:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3046 From: ravenclawlady Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3043] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/29/00 2:37 am (ET) <It's completely random, which I use to justify my terrible placements: Slytherin, Slytherin, Hufflepuff. I guess it couldn't decide whether I was more evil or ignorant! :)> I don't see Hufflepuffs as ignorant. For example, take a judge. To get to that point, someone would have to have plenty of intelligence, and know a little something about the world. But if I were in court, I'd be hoping that judge has a healthy dose of Hufflepuff justice, too! From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 09:36:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 05:36:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3047 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3045] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/29/00 5:36 am (ET) With the Meyers-Briggs I am an ISTJ. That puts me in either Hufflepuff, Ravenclaw or Slythrein. Most other sorting hats I have done put me in Griffindor. What house to go in, that is the question! Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 09:38:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 05:38:00 -0400 Subject: Bloomsbury Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3048 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Bloomsbury Reply To: [Yahoo! #3017] Re: Bloomsbury Date: 6/29/00 5:38 am (ET) "Bloomsbury don't seem geared up for such a *huge* book, to be honest. They must have thought all their Christmasses had come at once when they signed JK Rowling!" For PS they had a first print run of 500, For CoS and PoA this first print run was 10,000 books. For book 4 it is 1 million. That is one big leap. No wonder they have not a clue what they are doing! They have said that they are not even sure the first editions will cover all the pre-orders in the UK. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 09:40:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 05:40:00 -0400 Subject: Harry - the name Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3049 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Harry - the name Reply To: [Yahoo! #3029] Re: Harry - the name Date: 6/29/00 5:40 am (ET) "In Britain, a Birmingham [Brum] accent is regarded as being one of the least attractive and I'd wager it's impossible to sound posh if you're from that area of the country. If the Dursleys were blessed with Birmingham accents, that would work very well against their pomposity, IMHO." The Dursleys come over as if they have recently come into some money. I get the impression that they live in the south east of the UK. Birmingham accents - it is just about possible to sound posh with one of these but it usually comes out only as a joke. Simon (5 Days to go) From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 10:02:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 06:02:00 -0400 Subject: Harry - the name Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3050 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: Harry - the name Reply To: [Yahoo! #3049] Re: Harry - the name Date: 6/29/00 6:02 am (ET) Re: The Dursleys: Well, they live in Surrey... and probably originate from London, with nouveau-riche pretensions. I just thought they'd be great as Brummies! Neil From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 13:55:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 09:55:00 -0400 Subject: The Dursleys (was Harry - the name Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3051 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: The Dursleys (was Harry - the name Reply To: [Yahoo! #3050] Re: Harry - the name Date: 6/29/00 9:55 am (ET) > I just thought they'd be great as Brummies! Remember, whatever accent Petunia grew up with, so did Lily. From trackgirl16 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 14:06:00 2000 From: trackgirl16 at yahoo.com (trackgirl16) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:06:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3052 From: trackgirl16 Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3046] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/29/00 10:06 am (ET) <I don't see Hufflepuffs as ignorant.> Yes, forgive me for my little comment; it was a tiny bit rude! I just happen to be one of those irritating personalities that fancy themselves an intellectual, and our delicate pride gets injured easily. :) Kris From lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 14:33:00 2000 From: lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com (lady_emerlyn) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 10:33:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3053 From: lady_emerlyn Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3033] Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/29/00 10:33 am (ET) Hello to All, I took the Keirsey test and that decided that I was ESTJ however I was perfectly balanced in the first two catagories so perhaps I could be in another house but as for now it appears that according to be in Slytherin according to all of the versions of the translation... and the sad thing is I don't consider myself to be that evil. Then again when I took the Star Wars personality test I came out to be Emperor Palpitine hmmmmm I should have known then! I guess that I shall be forced to look down upon all who try to speak to me and then try to take over the world. Join me my Serpintine Siblings and keep your bodies low to the ground and your fangs ready to strike! Jess From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 15:06:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:06:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3054 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3044] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/29/00 11:06 am (ET) It seems that ever sorting hat I go through puts me in Gryffindor! Oh I am so happy.... *beaming* --Suzanne, ENFP From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 15:19:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 11:19:00 -0400 Subject: The REAL 4th book title Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3055 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: The REAL 4th book title Date: 6/29/00 11:19 am (ET) All the rumors floating around are completely false. You all fell fer the bait. The real title of Book IV is: "Harry Potter and the Temple of Doom" - Hagrid http://www.hagridshut.com From darwin_nyc at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 16:02:00 2000 From: darwin_nyc at yahoo.com (darwin_nyc) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:02:00 -0400 Subject: Times Square Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3056 From: darwin_nyc Subject: Times Square Date: 6/29/00 12:02 pm (ET) Anybody attending the shindig next week? From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 16:14:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:14:00 -0400 Subject: Times Square Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3057 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Times Square Reply To: [Yahoo! #3056] Times Square Date: 6/29/00 12:14 pm (ET) I am, but you already knew that... From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 16:48:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:48:00 -0400 Subject: Times Square Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3058 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: Re: Times Square Reply To: [Yahoo! #3057] Re: Times Square Date: 6/29/00 12:48 pm (ET) Erm...can yeh expand a little on this event? (seeing as I am 10 blocks away?) Not sure if I am going teh be in town, but it would be great to attend. - Hagrid http://www.hagridshut.com From voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 16:59:00 2000 From: voicelady_2000 at yahoo.com (voicelady_2000) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 12:59:00 -0400 Subject: Times Square Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3059 From: voicelady_2000 Subject: Re: Times Square Reply To: [Yahoo! #3058] Re: Times Square Date: 6/29/00 12:59 pm (ET) <<Erm...can yeh expand a little on this event?>> There will be a lighting up (or something of that sort) of Times Square at midnight on the 8th. Rather similar to New Year's, except there will be more children... Darwin & I will be there, and I'll be wearing my Hogwarts t-shirt. From crinkle25 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 17:27:00 2000 From: crinkle25 at yahoo.com (crinkle25) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 13:27:00 -0400 Subject: The REAL 4th book title Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3060 From: crinkle25 Subject: Re: The REAL 4th book title Reply To: [Yahoo! #3055] The REAL 4th book title Date: 6/29/00 1:27 pm (ET) Ha ha! Cute. I can just see Harry Runnin g down a giant hallway chased by a huge boulder! From lizabee_uk at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 18:19:00 2000 From: lizabee_uk at yahoo.com (lizabee_uk) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 14:19:00 -0400 Subject: The REAL 4th book title Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3061 From: lizabee_uk Subject: Re: The REAL 4th book title Reply To: [Yahoo! #3055] The REAL 4th book title Date: 6/29/00 2:19 pm (ET) Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire Is the UK title (it says at 'Amozon') From pt4ever at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 21:20:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:20:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3062 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3038] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/29/00 5:20 pm (ET) Actually, Mr. flying_ford_anglia, I think you're considered a member of the Weasley family, so you're probably in Gryffindor. :) -- JoAnna From pt4ever at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 21:23:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:23:00 -0400 Subject: WAL-MART rocks!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3063 From: pt4ever Subject: WAL-MART rocks!! Date: 6/29/00 5:23 pm (ET) I went to Wal-Mart this morning, and the girl at the checkout was wearing a pin that had the Amazon.com version of the HPIV cover, the scholastic logo, and the message: HARRY POTTER IV COMING JULY 8! I asked if I could buy one, and she said, "Buy one? They're free. Electronics was giving them away yesterday. Hold on and I'll see if we have any extra." Well, she did, and I got one! It made my day. :) I plan to give my twin cousins (they're turning 12) their birthday gift tonight -- the audiotape version of CoS. (Jim Dale) We have a 15-hour car ride ahead of us tomorrow, so I willing to bet CoS will eat up 9 hours of it!!! -- JoAnna From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 21:40:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:40:00 -0400 Subject: Perceptions of women... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3064 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Re: Perceptions of women... Reply To: [Yahoo! #3019] Re: Perceptions of women... Date: 6/29/00 5:40 pm (ET) Geez, I've never had a proposal before... er, how about a definate maybe? :) Jarnor23 From triner2001 at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 21:45:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 17:45:00 -0400 Subject: Books-a-million has a do planned Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3065 From: triner2001 Subject: Books-a-million has a do planned Date: 6/29/00 5:45 pm (ET) >From 9pm till midnight and later, most likely. Events will include costume contest, foods, trivia, etc. Winner of the costume contest will win a copy of HP4. And of course at 12:01 the books are ready! I think we all know what I'll be doing at 12:15! (It'll take me at least 15 minutes to get back to my house! Trina From Danemead at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 22:34:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:34:00 -0400 Subject: Blood and Chocolate Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3066 From: Danemead Subject: Blood and Chocolate Date: 6/29/00 6:34 pm (ET) Someone on one of the HP e-groups recommended a "while-you-are-waiting-for-Book 4" reading list -- I don't remember who it was now, and e-groups is taking a little cyber-vacation at the moment. Anyway, I just wanted to add my opinion on one of the books called "Blood and Chocolate" by Annette Curtis Klause. This is a good one! A werewolf story (but not the kindly Prof. Lupin kind). This one is about a 16-year-old female werewolf who falls in love with a human, and what happens when she reveals herself to him. I'd rate it PG-17 for the violence; the sex is sensuous but not graphic. From norevoli at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 22:41:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:41:00 -0400 Subject: HP Covers Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3067 From: norevoli Subject: HP Covers Date: 6/29/00 6:41 pm (ET) Skimmel... I got through a couple of the HP Covers and I have to agree that the Iceland is really bad. He looks fat. Maybe they accidentally smushed him and Dudley together. And what's with the Rat hat or the rats in general on the Italian one? Actually I wasn't too fond of the french ones either. I also liked the Japanese philosophers... just a very nice painting... anyway I"ll try and get through the rest... and if anyone hasn't said it yet Thanx Skimmel (and baby nick too I think) for spending time to scan all those book covers. I was wondering... after collecting all these books of different languages what do you do with them (other then Scan them for us)? do you know a couple of languages?? norevoli From norevoli at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 22:55:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 18:55:00 -0400 Subject: Blood and Chocolate Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3068 From: norevoli Subject: Re: Blood and Chocolate Reply To: [Yahoo! #3066] Blood and Chocolate Date: 6/29/00 6:55 pm (ET) Blood and Chocolate... i'll try it... actually I'd recommend Terry Brooks 5 book Landover series (if I haven't already said it!) The first book is called "Magical Kingdom for Sale-sold!" similarities with HP? "Hmmmmmm".... well there's the court wizard Questor Thews. Sort of Bumbling old wizard who learned magic on his own without help from his brother but sort of gets things mixed up. Then there's the Dragon Strabo but really we haven't met any dragons in this book yet. anyway I'd recommend it very much or anything Terry Brooks has written. (I actually just finished the last 2 books yesterday... can you tell summer holidays have begun??) norevoli From norevoli at yahoo.com Thu Jun 29 23:28:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 19:28:00 -0400 Subject: Le Petit Prince Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3069 From: norevoli Subject: Le Petit Prince Date: 6/29/00 7:28 pm (ET) I was looking through the covers again and I came across the french ones again. that sort of sparked my pondering on "Le Petit Prince" by Antoine de St. Exupery. Its for kids and adults like Hp but in a different way. JKR sort of helps adults relive their child hood and provides the escape. We're on the Adventure with Harry and Company. St. Exupery takes it a slightly different way. He presents to you this character "le petit prince" a personification of childhood or rather Exupery's childhood. And the whole book focus' (through stories about prince's adventures) on defining childhood and adulthood and the little "stupidities" (that's what I would call them) that adults do or treasure. its really a cute book and insightful, I would HIGHLy recommend it... (although I read it in french... i don't know if much of the flavor is lost through the language changeover but I think it will be just as good.) that's it for me... norevoli From Carlsson79 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 00:44:00 2000 From: Carlsson79 at yahoo.com (Carlsson79) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 20:44:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3070 From: Carlsson79 Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3062] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/29/00 8:44 pm (ET) . Actually, Mr. flying_ford_anglia, I think you're considered a member of the Weasley family Has this got anythig to do withy me, or am I being paranoid? Nicholas From Danemead at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 01:01:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 21:01:00 -0400 Subject: Cryptozoology Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3071 From: Danemead Subject: Cryptozoology Date: 6/29/00 9:01 pm (ET) Learned a new word today: cryptozoology. Means the study of mythical creatures. Next time I'm reading HP and someone wants to interrupt me, I'll say, "Not now! I'm studying for my cryptozoology exams." Here's a nice web page with links to legendary critters: http://herper.com/Crypto.html From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 02:03:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:03:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3072 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3062] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/29/00 10:03 pm (ET) > Actually, Mr. flying_ford_anglia, I think you're > considered a member of the Weasley family, so > you're probably in Gryffindor. :) I don't *think* people in the same family *have* to be in the same House... The Patil twins, Puja and Parvati, it seems Parvati is in Gryffindor, but where is Puja? From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 02:17:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:17:00 -0400 Subject: Chess pieces Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3073 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Chess pieces Reply To: [Yahoo! #3008] Chess pieces Date: 6/29/00 10:17 pm (ET) Hi: <<<Have we ever seen the chess pieces playing by themselves before? I know they are alive in the sense that they move where their players tell them to move, but do they play by themselves? Maybe this is what Hermione meant when she said McGonagall made them alive. Ron directs the black pieces but not the white ones.>>> I'd been meaning to say that I think this is a very good thought Laurie. That likely is what Hermione was talking about. Penny From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 02:21:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:21:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers/Briggs -- Sorting Hat of Sort Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3074 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Re: Meyers/Briggs -- Sorting Hat of Sort Reply To: [Yahoo! #3028] Re: Meyers/Briggs -- Sorting Hat of Sort Date: 6/29/00 10:21 pm (ET) Hi: <<<I knew how much you wanted to be a Ravenclaw, and I'd seen the intelligence in your messages. The human side of the hat (me) was tempted to put you in Ravenclaw without bothering to even tally your results <g> But don't worry. I did count them up, and your answers were, overwhelmingly, Ravenclaw.>>> Thanks Melanie! I *would* much rather be a Ravenclaw than a Hufflepuff (not that there's anything wrong with the Hufflepuffs). Someone earlier today was not thrilled with being put in Slytherin and wondering if they were really evil. My hubby is a Slytherin (under all the tests!). We finally decided that Slytherins are just ambitious -- ambition can be a good thing or a very bad thing. So, all Slytherins are not evil so don't be too upset about being there. Penny From catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 02:28:00 2000 From: catlady_de_los_angeles at yahoo.com (catlady_de_los_angeles) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:28:00 -0400 Subject: USAmerican 'Wizards' and 'Witches'? Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3075 From: catlady_de_los_angeles Subject: Re: USAmerican 'Wizards' and 'Witches'? Reply To: [Yahoo! #2956] Re: USAmerican 'Wizards' and 'Witches'? Date: 6/29/00 10:28 pm (ET) > Well, I don't know if ALL wizard have that same attitude, after all there are a lot of mixed marriages and muggle born wizards. Yes, there are a lot of muggle-born students, who spend summer vacation with their muggle families and presumably their muggle childhood friends, and there's no reason to think that they break up with all those people later on. If they marry a wizard spouse and have wizard children, surely the children would still go visit grandma and grandpa and the aunts and uncles. And we have heard of a number of mixed marriages. Of course, it wouldn't be unusual for a person to go visit her old schoolfriend and fall in love and marriage with her old friend's brother or brother's best friend. But we were told that Tom Riddle Sr didn't know his wife was a witch until they'd been married for months, and if she had been his best friend's sister's friend, he'd have known that both girls were witches before he even met them. So there must be some way that mages and muggles meet and marry in which the mage is incognito. I'm inclined to think that a number of mages 'earn' their livings in the muggle world (the place in Diagon Alley that changes money, muggle to magic, is not just for muggle-born students to buy their textbooks). Surely wizardry would be a great help to an auto mechanic or copy machine technician -- he can fix all kinds of problems, with his wand disguised as some sort of electronic test tool, and people think it's just that he's so good at his job. But my guess is that quite a number of them work as charlatans. It's easier for the three-card monte man when he doesn't have to sleight-of-hand the cards, he just transfigures them. Wizard fortune-tellers trained by Professor Trelawney are not likely to be more accurate that muggle fortune-tellers. And of all those people who want to sell us love potions, curse our enemies, and cure our ailments, a few are For Real (but we have no way of knowing which ones). While this is all terribly illegal, the Ministry of Magic turns a blind eye, because there is no danger that this will lead Muggles to know about magic, as Muggles are so firmly certain that it is fraud, and besides, people need to make a living. And if the wizards are living/working among the Muggles, the wizards may well have emigrated to the New World with the Muggles. But I think it's cuter that they didn't, thus leaving 'The American (half) Century' with USA as far behind Britain and Europe in wizardry as it was ahead in technology. > I would think, that unless all the USA wizards are (or were) native, then they had to have immigrated from somewhere.... I was thinking, if no wizards emigrated to the New World, the only wizards in the New World would be muggle-born or descended from muggle-born wizards. The Native Americans were here long enough for their wizards to have developed a tradition of wizardry and a training program for their own children and Native American muggle-born wizard children, but I can see why in North America they wouldn't want to reveal themselves to Euro-Americans by offering to teach Euro-American muggle-born wizard children. (I have been given to understand that Latin America is so mestizo that maybe the puebla indigena wizards would be willing to teach Ladino children.) And I am thinking that the Euro-Americans haven't been here long enough to have developed a tradition of wizardry from scratch. From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 02:29:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2000 22:29:00 -0400 Subject: Another Annoying PoA Question Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3076 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Another Annoying PoA Question Date: 6/29/00 10:29 pm (ET) Hi: I'm re-reading PoA, and I'm always wondering about the following (and never had remembered to ever mention it): When Harry storms out of the Dursleys house, he has his trunk (which has been locked in the cupboard under the stairs) and Hedwig's cage and his pillowcase full of books and birthday presents. And the clothes on his back, which brings me to my question. What about the clothes that are in his room? I'm sure his robes and most of his winter clothes are in his trunk, which he takes with him. But, surely, he has clothes in his room? This is probably one of those "just don't worry about it" sort of questions. But, I always wonder everytime I re-read PoA. <g> Penny From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 04:12:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 00:12:00 -0400 Subject: I'm a Weasley (was ... Meyers-Briggs) Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3077 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: I'm a Weasley (was ... Meyers-Briggs) Reply To: [Yahoo! #3062] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/30/00 12:12 am (ET) "Actually, Mr. flying_ford_anglia, I think you're considered a member of the Weasley family, so you're probably in Gryffindor. :)" Yes [revs engine happily], although they've never managed to fit the Sorting Hat over my spacious 1960s bodywork. It just sits on my roof, and, eventually, says "I'm bored. Fly me back to Hogwarts NOW, you heap of junk!" [starts windscreen wipers] Sigh, I never did get on with the old Sorting Hat. **Thanks for helping me find myself JoAnna! A couple of notes on the same theme: Catlady suggested that members of the same family don't necessarily end up in the same House, but it seems to happen in the Weasley family, regardless of their various personality types (we discussed this before, many moons ago). Nicholas was wondering whether JoAnna's remark had something to do with him (no it didn't and yes, you *are* being paranoid, Stoker!) but, in case anyone else is wondering, she was referring to the fact that the flying car belongs to the Weasleys. [sputter] From jenP_97 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 05:04:00 2000 From: jenP_97 at yahoo.com (jenP_97) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:04:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3078 From: jenP_97 Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3072] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/30/00 1:04 am (ET) >>I don't *think* people in the same family *have* to be in the same House... The Patil twins, Puja and Parvati, it seems Parvati is in Gryffindor, but where is Puja? << Wait. Did I miss something? Does *everyone* know Parvati's twin's name, or are you just giving her one, or do you know something the rest of us (or at least I) don't know? a very confused Jen From pt4ever at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 05:05:00 2000 From: pt4ever at yahoo.com (pt4ever) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 01:05:00 -0400 Subject: Perceptions of women... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3079 From: pt4ever Subject: Re: Perceptions of women... Reply To: [Yahoo! #3064] Re: Perceptions of women... Date: 6/30/00 1:05 am (ET) >>> Geez, I've never had a proposal before... er, how about a definate maybe? :) >>> Sounds like a plan to me! :) -- JoAnna From nicolas_flamel at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 07:34:00 2000 From: nicolas_flamel at yahoo.com (nicolas_flamel) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:34:00 -0400 Subject: Another Annoying PoA Question Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3080 From: nicolas_flamel Subject: Re: Another Annoying PoA Question Reply To: [Yahoo! #3076] Another Annoying PoA Question Date: 6/30/00 3:34 am (ET) Penny, I agree with you completely. This is one those "just don't worry about it" sort of questions. With all the good things going on surrounding Harry, Sirus Black, Prof. Luppin and Peter the Rat, how did you ever come up with that question? Happy Witching! From nicolas_flamel at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 07:40:00 2000 From: nicolas_flamel at yahoo.com (nicolas_flamel) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 03:40:00 -0400 Subject: The Forbiden Forest Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3081 From: nicolas_flamel Subject: The Forbiden Forest Date: 6/30/00 3:40 am (ET) Here is one for you all.... If a Centaur farts in The Forbiden Forest and no one is around, does it smell? Just think, if we all read the bible as seriously as we read the Harry Potter books, we would all be saints! From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 08:26:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:26:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3082 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3078] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/30/00 4:26 am (ET) "Wait. Did I miss something? Does *everyone* know Parvati's twin's name, or are you just giving her one, or do you know something the rest of us (or at least I) don't know?" This is a very good question. Where is the second of the twins given a name or even mentioned apart from at the sorting? I have looked and can see no mention of her. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 08:38:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:38:00 -0400 Subject: I'm a Weasley (was ... Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3083 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: I'm a Weasley (was ... Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3077] I'm a Weasley (was ... Meyers-Briggs) Date: 6/30/00 4:38 am (ET) Should we be calling you Mr Flying-ford-anglia Weasley from now on or can we shorten this as it is a bit of a mouthful? "Sigh, I never did get on with the old Sorting Hat." I made Ravenclaw! This makes a change as I normally get Griffindor. I just cannot work out why either as I would instantly say that I am most suitable for Ravenclaw. Maybe I am like Hermione with some undiscovered talents like bravery. Simon From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 08:38:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 04:38:00 -0400 Subject: Another Annoying PoA Question Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3084 From: hert0661 Subject: Re: Another Annoying PoA Question Reply To: [Yahoo! #3076] Another Annoying PoA Question Date: 6/30/00 4:38 am (ET) "When Harry storms out of the Dursleys house, he has his trunk...But, surely, he has clothes in his room?" Possibilities are: 1) That it is just not mentioned that he picked the clothes up. 2) That the Ministry of Magic squad that came to sort out the mess also picked up any things they thought he would need and had not already taken with him. 3) The Dursleys are kinder than we thought and posted the clothes on for him. 4) He has grown again, he needed new robes, and so also went and got some new clothes that fitted better. That is all I can think of for now. Another question: JKR hs said that the main characters will fall for the wrong people. So this suggests they may not actually get dates with them. This could mean that they spend part of the books chasing after people they have developed chrushes on. So how about Ron and Madam Rosmerta from The Three Broomsticks? He blushes when going to get drinks for Harry, Hermione and himself just before they learn about Sirius. Simon From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 12:42:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 08:42:00 -0400 Subject: Halfway Houses Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3085 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Halfway Houses Reply To: [Yahoo! #3083] Re: I'm a Weasley (was ... Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/30/00 8:42 am (ET) "as I would instantly say that I am most suitable for Ravenclaw." I also feel a bit more like a Ravenclaw, with perhaps a bit of Gryffindor and Hufflepuff flowing through my veins. Perhaps we could establish halfway Houses, so that undecided people can take account of all sides of their nature. We can create hybrid club names, by splitting the Hogwarts House names in half and reassembling them, with the dominant House forming the first part of the new name. Confused? [as well you might be] How about being a Huffleclaw, Slytherpuff or Ravendor? A Ravenpuff, Huffledor or Slytherclaw? Or Gryffinpuff, Huffle-in or .... Whatever. The ones ending in 'in' don't sound too good, probably suggesting that even a hint of Slytherin makes you a Slyther-something. If you want to go for more than two Houses, it gets tricky - Ravynpuff, Gryflerin, Slyffledor etc. All four Houses - why not? Grythervenpuff, Huffintherclaw...er....something Okay, this is silly. Neil From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 13:13:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:13:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers-Briggs Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3086 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs Reply To: [Yahoo! #3072] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/30/00 9:13 am (ET) Puja Patil?? Where is she mentioned?? I remember mention of a twin, but no name.... --Suzanne From CarverWB at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 13:14:00 2000 From: CarverWB at yahoo.com (CarverWB) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 09:14:00 -0400 Subject: Halfway Houses Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3087 From: CarverWB Subject: Re: Halfway Houses Reply To: [Yahoo! #3085] Halfway Houses Date: 6/30/00 9:14 am (ET) <<Perhaps we could establish halfway Houses, so that undecided people can take account of all sides of their nature.>> The sorting hat does take a long time to sort some of the kids, maybe they are all like Harry, (like most people) and don't easily fit into just one or the other so they have to choose. From hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 15:06:00 2000 From: hagrid_rubeus at yahoo.com (hagrid_rubeus) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:06:00 -0400 Subject: The REAL 4th book title Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3088 From: hagrid_rubeus Subject: Re: The REAL 4th book title Reply To: [Yahoo! #3061] Re: The REAL 4th book title Date: 6/30/00 11:06 am (ET) No no no....the title is actually: Harry and the Chocolate Factory From norevoli at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 15:52:00 2000 From: norevoli at yahoo.com (norevoli) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:52:00 -0400 Subject: who is Puja Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3089 From: norevoli Subject: who is Puja Reply To: [Yahoo! #3072] Re: Meyers-Briggs Date: 6/30/00 11:52 am (ET) Catlady... Who is Puja?Who is pUja? who is puja? Who is Puja? who is Puja????? ...norevoli From plinsenmayer at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 16:36:00 2000 From: plinsenmayer at yahoo.com (plinsenmayer) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:36:00 -0400 Subject: Breaking News -- CNN Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3090 From: plinsenmayer Subject: Breaking News -- CNN Date: 6/30/00 12:36 pm (ET) Hi: I just saw a news report on CNN - some girl in NY got ahold of a copy of HP IV. They interviewed the girl and showed the book itself. You were right about the cover Skimmel -- I'll eat my words now I guess. <g> The coverart on Amazon's site has been right all along (ok, so I'm definitely not happy with the cover). Anyway, apparently some store in NY had accidentally set out a copy and they sold it (how stupid would the bookstore clerk have had to be??). Where were you Voicelady -- could have had that copy it sounds like!! I haven't checked to see if the story is on their website or not, but they will probably show the clip all day. Penny From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 16:54:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 12:54:00 -0400 Subject: Hold the presses!!! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3091 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Hold the presses!!! Reply To: [Yahoo! #3090] Breaking News -- CNN Date: 6/30/00 12:54 pm (ET) Like a silly thing I go immediately to CNN expecting this to be their top news. *LOL* Why do I feel like I am living out Charlie and the Chocolate Factory?? I want my Golden Ticket!! --Suzanne From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 17:39:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:39:00 -0400 Subject: Death... again Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3092 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Death... again Date: 6/30/00 1:39 pm (ET) Spoiler... although we've heard it all before.............................................................................................................................................................. Today's Yahoo news reports an interview with JK Rowling in which she *confirms* that a favourite character will die in GoF. She says it will be upsetting, but not "damaging". If it's Ron, I'm not so sure it won't be both... There's also a picture of JK, reading from one of her books at the annual "Whitehouse Easter Egg Roll" (which sounds like a blast). She looks jet-lagged. Here's the pic: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20000630/en/mdf89433.html Neil From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 17:47:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 13:47:00 -0400 Subject: who is Puja Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3093 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: Re: who is Puja Reply To: [Yahoo! #3089] who is Puja Date: 6/30/00 1:47 pm (ET) Puja? Hmmm. We had a debate before about what happened to the other Patil twin and there has never been a name mentioned. Catlady is either teasing us wickedly with this false information, or has picked up the name Puja from some fanfic somewhere and forgotten it wasn't real. Or... she has a copy of Book 4 and is so busy reading it, she cannot respond to our pleas for information!!!! My latest theory? Parvati carries her sister - a wizened accident of birth - inside her blouse, attached to her abdomen by a band of flesh. The etiolated sibling is not named, but is known to have Slytherin tendencies. This is 'Friday afternoon' thinking... Neil From Danemead at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 18:00:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:00:00 -0400 Subject: Breaking News -- CNN Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3094 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Breaking News -- CNN Reply To: [Yahoo! #3090] Breaking News -- CNN Date: 6/30/00 2:00 pm (ET) I saw that report. The little girl opens the book and starts reading the first sentence out loud, and I'm sitting here yelling, "SHUT UP! SHUT UP!!" at the TV. How old am I again? This confirms what I've always suspected: There is no such thing as a "secret." Maybe God has a few still, but nobody on THIS planet can keep their mouths shut. From Danemead at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 18:06:00 2000 From: Danemead at yahoo.com (Danemead) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:06:00 -0400 Subject: Death... again Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3095 From: Danemead Subject: Re: Death... again Reply To: [Yahoo! #3092] Death... again Date: 6/30/00 2:06 pm (ET) JKR also said she is hoping to slip back into anonymity or obscurity after the 7th book is published. She's getting weary of the non-stop attention. She better take her well-deserved profits and buy herself a nice hideaway. It's never to late to become a recluse! (I hope she doesn't plan to stop writing after #7.) From rainy_lilac at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 18:44:00 2000 From: rainy_lilac at yahoo.com (rainy_lilac) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 14:44:00 -0400 Subject: who is Puja Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3096 From: rainy_lilac Subject: Re: who is Puja Reply To: [Yahoo! #3093] Re: who is Puja Date: 6/30/00 2:44 pm (ET) Oh Neil!! ROFL!!! I love it..... From houston425 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 19:49:00 2000 From: houston425 at yahoo.com (houston425) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 15:49:00 -0400 Subject: Breaking News -- CNN Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3097 From: houston425 Subject: Re: Breaking News -- CNN Reply To: [Yahoo! #3090] Breaking News -- CNN Date: 6/30/00 3:49 pm (ET) <<The coverart on Amazon's site has been right all along (ok, so I'm definitely not happy with the cover).>> Please say it ain't so!!! I really dislike that cover and I was hoping that it wasn't the real one. It is so different than the first three covers. The first three involved some type of action from the book and this one just has the characters standing there. Of course since I haven't read the book it could be an action sequence, but I don't think so. It looks like a compilation of characters. The other problem is that people were arguing who the two men were standing behind Harry (who doesn't look like any of her other Harrys) and I have no clue who they are either. It's not real clear right now... Hopefully it will become very clear once we read. <Sigh> Oh well.. It will give me a week to get used to it. At least I know what I will be picking up that evening.. Laurie From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 20:37:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:37:00 -0400 Subject: Meyers/Briggs -- Sorting Hat of Sort Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3098 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Re: Meyers/Briggs -- Sorting Hat of Sort Reply To: [Yahoo! #3074] Re: Meyers/Briggs -- Sorting Hat of Sort Date: 6/30/00 4:37 pm (ET) Heh, could you imagine being a nice person stuck into Slytherin because you are ambitious? Sure, you'd have great studying partners, but as far as friends, I think I'd be banging on another house's door saying, "Can someone with a non-psychotic personality come out and play? PLEASE?" :) Jarnor23 From lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 20:42:00 2000 From: lady_emerlyn at yahoo.com (lady_emerlyn) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:42:00 -0400 Subject: Book III Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3099 From: lady_emerlyn Subject: Book III Date: 6/30/00 4:42 pm (ET) Good Evening to all I just finished III last night and well I almost cried, it was so incredibly touching in parts and infuriating in others. Unfortunately this has whetted my whistle for 4 and I didn't preorder one, is all lost? Will our not-so-evil Slytherin Chic get a hold of the fourth book in enough time? Or will she not be able to read the posts for the next few months so that what lies ahead will not be prematurely diclosed? Oh-NO the terror the horror, what ever shall we do? Jess From Jarnor23 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 20:43:00 2000 From: Jarnor23 at yahoo.com (Jarnor23) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 16:43:00 -0400 Subject: Perceptions of women... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3100 From: Jarnor23 Subject: Re: Perceptions of women... Reply To: [Yahoo! #3079] Re: Perceptions of women... Date: 6/30/00 4:43 pm (ET) Sounds good by here too! So... maybe you might check your Yahoo mail for a little letter sent by electronic owl, and maybe I'll get a response back? :) Jarnor23 From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 21:13:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:13:00 -0400 Subject: New Yahoo annoyance... Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3101 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: New Yahoo annoyance... Date: 6/30/00 5:13 pm (ET) Hmmmmmm - this is odd. I can see all the messages by clicking 'Messages', but in 'Home' it's still displaying messages from the 29th. Another twist in the Yahoo service. They must be working overtime to invent these problems. Perhaps it's just me seeing this one...? Neil From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 21:28:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:28:00 -0400 Subject: Breaking News -- CNN Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3102 From: babynick34 Subject: Re: Breaking News -- CNN Reply To: [Yahoo! #3097] Re: Breaking News -- CNN Date: 6/30/00 5:28 pm (ET) Link to report on CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2000/books/news/06/30/harry.potter.girl/index.html NEW YORK (CNN) -- Author J.K. Rowling wanted kids to be the first to catch a glimpse of her latest "Harry Potter" book. Just maybe not quite this quickly. A copy of "Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire" -- which isn't supposed to go on sale until July 8 -- wound up in the hands of an American 8-year-old after it was placed accidentally on a store shelf. Now the girl, identified only as Laura, may be the first child in the world who has the heavily hyped book, the fourth in the series about a young wizard and his enchanted adventures. "I think it is great," said Laura, who got the 700-plus-page sequel when her father's friend spotted it in the store. "None of my friends have it. It's just wonderful." Despite his daughter's glee, dad didn't rule out selling it for the right price. "It would have to be an absolutely ridiculous sum of money," he said. Already a best-seller based on advance orders, the book has been shrouded in secrecy, partly due to Rowling's reported consideration of her young readers. Book sellers had to sign an affidavit promising not only that they wouldn't sell the book before July 8, but that they wouldn't even take it out of the box. At Amazon.com, the books are cordoned off in a warehouse protected by security guards. Keeping you informed... Nick. From babynick34 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 21:47:00 2000 From: babynick34 at yahoo.com (babynick34) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 17:47:00 -0400 Subject: Book 4 - It's thick! Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3103 From: babynick34 Subject: Book 4 - It's thick! Date: 6/30/00 5:47 pm (ET) Book 4 - SPOILER S P O I L E R S P A C E (see I remembered this time, sorry for the breaking news one with out the spoiler space!) Well... Book 4 is a B I G B O O K Have you seen the picture from CNN - the US edition has to be 1.5 inches thick! At least the UK edition won't be quite so big, as it's got smaller writing! But it's hardly going to be easy to read on the train, while travelling to Kings Cross for the official launch. Concerning which - think we need to meet earlier than planned... appears the Hogwarts express will leave at 11am. Maybe we need to aim to meet 9.30am ish time, so we get a good viewing position. Nick. Link to article with picture: http://www.cnn.com/2000/books/news/06/30/harry.potter.girl/index.html From triner2001 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 22:07:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:07:00 -0400 Subject: book 4 Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3104 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: book 4 Date: 6/30/00 6:07 pm (ET) How much do you wanna bet the "accident" which placed it on the shelf was planned? Or if not, what are the odds that employee is no longer gainfully employed? Of course I am partly horrified is got out and partly stark raving jealous! Oh, and dad's comment about selling it for a "ridiculous amount" is in itself ridiculous. In 8 days everyone will have it. Trina From flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 22:30:00 2000 From: flying_ford_anglia at yahoo.com (flying_ford_anglia) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:30:00 -0400 Subject: King's Cross meeting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3105 From: flying_ford_anglia Subject: King's Cross meeting Reply To: [Yahoo! #3103] Book 4 - It's thick! Date: 6/30/00 6:30 pm (ET) "Concerning which - think we need to meet earlier than planned... appears the Hogwarts express will leave at 11am. Maybe we need to aim to meet 9.30am ish time, so we get a good viewing position." Um, we'll be a head taller than everyone else I guess. That should afford us a good view... Oh dear, so I can't pick up my copy of the book from WH Smiths until AFTER the event. I'm concerned... they might give it to an 8-year old gold digger. Neil From hert0661 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 22:42:00 2000 From: hert0661 at yahoo.com (hert0661) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:42:00 -0400 Subject: Something to keep you all occupied Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3106 From: hert0661 Subject: Something to keep you all occupied Date: 6/30/00 6:42 pm (ET) Well the gauntlet has been passed to me and so I decided that I would finish the series of anagrams with some from the third book. There are two sections of anagrams, the first being people and the second things. Some have clues in the anagram, some do not. I will post some clues next week if no one has got them by then. A small clue for now, number nine (people) has a hyphen in the middle - DO NOT MOVE LETTER ACROSS THIS, unless you want to make it very difficult! E-mail answers to: simon.branford at hertford.ox.ac.uk People: 1) Need Wet Dine Whirl 2) Fluorescent Lob 3) Alfresco Fourteen 4) Casino Drag 5) Crewman Aladin 6) Runaway Headmaster Lolly 7) Roadster Mamma 8) Ashen Sputnik 9) Indisputable Minesweeper Gulp Pit Turret Smartarse Jock - Monetarism Wormy Loss Dot Snapdragon Fop Things: 1) Draftsmen Beneath Kazoo 2) Bob Fork - Aerodynamic Hood 3) Knock Escapee Stoop 4) Acrostically Construct Busy Referee, Sir Nimbus Burn 5) Tenterhooks Moment For Boss 6) PVC Cellar Card Gala as Indeterminate Theme 7) Liquid Thatch Fiend 8) Depression From Amigo Mesh 9) Offend His Host When Ellipsoidal High From triner2001 at yahoo.com Fri Jun 30 22:42:00 2000 From: triner2001 at yahoo.com (triner2001) Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 18:42:00 -0400 Subject: King's Cross meeting Message-ID: Original Yahoo! HPFG Header: No: HPFGUIDX C3107 From: triner2001 Subject: Re: King's Cross meeting Reply To: [Yahoo! #3105] King's Cross meeting Date: 6/30/00 6:42 pm (ET) >>Um, we'll be a head taller than everyone else, I guess.<< If *I* were going, I would not be a head taller. At just five feet tall, I've worked with 8 yo kids as tall or taller than myself. And I would be going, except for the fact that King's Cross is in London and I'm an ocean away and can't afford to wing off to London for the weekend. So take good notes and share with the class afterwards. Trina