Character summary: Ludovic Bagman

mickey-m at email.msn.com mickey-m at email.msn.com
Tue Aug 29 12:29:45 UTC 2000


No: HPFGUIDX 477

--- I think Bagman is really that stupid. Remember he got hit once 
too many times in the head with a bludger. LOL I don't think he's a 
death eater. But what part will Snape play? What about Dumbledore? He 
smiled when Harry told him about Voldemort taking blood from him. 
Diane :-) 



In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Jen Piersol" <jenP_97 at y...> wrote:
> When we first meet Bagman, the first thing we're meant to notice is 
> the difference between him and Percy's boss, Mr. Crouch.  Bagman is 
> loads more fun, he doesn't take himself (or rules) that seriously,
> and it's very clear which one Ron and Harry identify with more.  
> However, through the course of the book, we learn some disturbing 
> things about Ludo Bagman.
> 
> For one thing, there's the pesky problem of Bertha Jorkins and her 
> mysterious disappearance.  Though she's a member of his department,
> he doesn't feel it's necessary to spend the time or the manpower to
> go look for her until the Ministry is made to look completely 
foolish 
> by Rita Skeeter, and then it's with great reluctance.  Then, 
> throughout the Triwizard Tournament, he's overly willing to help
> Harry complete his tasks - but doesn't seem to think it's necessary
> to help the other champions.  He's seen with goblins at the Three
> Broomsticks, which is also where Rita Skeeter mentions that she 
knows 
> things about him that would make Hermione's hair curl (not that she 
> needs it).  Winky down in the kitchens mentions that her master 
says 
> he's a "bad man". Then, Harry discovers through Dumbledore's 
penseive 
> that Bagman was accused of being a spy and a Death Eater - but was 
> acquitted, essentially because he was a famous quidditch player.
> 
> When we finish the book, we discover that Bagman doesn't have a 
knut 
> to his name, and he's basically on the run from everyone who he 
owes 
> money to, including Fred and George, whose bet he paid in 
Leprachaun 
> gold at the end of the World Cup.  We also find out that he bet on 
> Harry to win the Tournament (hence the willingness to help him with 
> his tasks), but since Harry "tied" with Cedric according to the 
> goblins, he lost *that* bet, too.
> 
> 
> More discussion topics:
> 
> What about Ludo's name?  We've discussed many things - from Ludo 
> meaning "play" in Latin to Bagman being a term for someone who is
> left holding the bag..... or for someone whose job is to hold the 
> money bag in a robbery.  Any other suggestions?  We know Rowling's 
> propensity for "nominative determinism" - what's in store for Ludo 
> Bagman?
> 
> Another thing.  Is Ludo Bagman just stupid?  Did he REALLY not know 
> his uncle was a Death Eater and a spy?  Or is he really one of the 
> most intelligent people we've come in contact with yet?  Is his 
> "stupid" mask an ingenious cover for his dark associations?  Does 
he 
> have the best disguise of all of them?
> 
> 
> Have fun!





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