[HPforGrownups] Re: Caribbean

[wren lanier]

No: HPFGUIDX 6768

hi everyone.  i'm new, so forgive me if i'm repeating something already
posted.

along with dean thomas and angelina, who are explicitly mentioned as black,
lee jordan is described in book 1 i think as having dreadlocks, when he's
first introduced on the hogwarts express as showing off a large spider to
the weasley twins.  that could make him of carribean or african decent,
though granted, plenty of white boys wear dreadlocks too (at least in the
US.  don't know about UK).

if he's not black, that would place lee in the white-boy hemp-wearing
stoner-deadhead-reggae crowd, which would make him exactly the sort of
fellow the weasley twins would want to hang out with.  i kind of like
imagining him with long blond, dirty dreadlocks with some beads on a hemp
rope around his neck under his robes, but thats just my fancy.

- wren




--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Sara Ludwig" <sara.ludwig at t...>
wrote:
> Isn't Lavender Brown Carribean?
> catrina

I don't recall ANYTHING in the books indicating that Lavender Brown
is Caribbean, altho' the American version of Book 1 states (in
the Sorting) that Dean Thomas is a tall Black boy, "even taller than
Ron" and I have thought it likely that a Brit who is named Dean
Thomas and is black is more likely to be of West Indian ancestry than
of directly African ancestry.

Since 'Lavender Brown' is a silly name (two colors that don't go
together), I had thought she must be from a wizarding family since
the wizard folk seem to go in for silly names) until I noticed the
scene in PoA where Trelawney sees the Grim in Harry's tea cup.
Hermione looks outraged, Dean and Lavender look puzzled, but everyone
else looks terrified.

I deduced that everyone who was raised in a wizarding family grew up
afraid of the Grim, and the Muggle-born may or may not have learned
about the Grim from their friends at Hogwarts (as Harry and Hermione
learned from Ron). Thus, the conclusion that Lavender Brown is
Muggle-born. I would be MUCH HAPPIER if it had been Parvati rather
than Lavender who had looked puzzled, as I firmly believe that the
Patil twins are Muggle-born.

For that matter, I don't have GOOD evidence from the books that
Hermione has Caribbean ancestry. In one book, where Harry meets up
with her right after summer vacation (in France) and she was 'looking
very brown', I always knew that meant she was suntanned more than
usual, which in turn means that her winter skin color is not entirely
dark (dark enough people don't get darker from sun). There are a mess
of people telling me that the description of her hair as 'bushy'
means something different than 'nappy', and I myself have met a
family of very pale people who have big teeth. I think my opinion
may be based more on Hermione reminding me of someone I used to know
who had Caribbean ancestors.

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