[Fwd: Re: Hogwarts crests (sic)]
Rita Winston
catlady at wicca.net
Sun Dec 17 01:49:21 UTC 2000
No: HPFGUIDX 7078
-- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, Amanda Lewanski <editor at t...> wrote:
> This is another plummy comment on the HP heraldry, from my heraldry
> group.
> -------- Original Message --------
> Reply-To: Discussions of SCA Heraldry <SCAHRLDS at L...>
> Bjarni wrote:
>
> > Not to mention the fact that the "crests" depicted for the four
> > houses are completely different from those emblazoned on my
> > Hogwarts coffee cup
Is this another complaint against the vile and loathsome artist of
the wall calendar?
> > (designed, I believe, by the Hallmark College of Heralds).
No, by Bloomsbury College of Heralds.
Oh, Julie already replied that.
> (Though in either case I cannot fathom how anyone could pass up the
> chance to cant on "Gryffindor" and "Ravenclaw.")
Should I pass on to any list-readers who don't know it, the bumper
sticker: Heralds Don't Pun, They Cant?
I'll add my voice to the clamor of those who say that Ravenclaw's
mascot should be a Raven (possible perching on a pallid bust of
Pallas) rather than an eagle. Altho' it is possible that Gruffydd
Glndwr DID choose to bear a lion as his sign, and not change it to
match the names the Sais gave him... [Gruffydd Glndwr is my theory.]
> To answer your question, I'd sooner believe in a world where
> Hogwarts exists than one where a charge may (must?) be the same
> color as half the field.
Is that a reference to that toad changing the Ravenclaw charge from
a bronze eagle displayed on a blue field to a bronze eagle's HEAD on
a bronze bend on a blue field? That was a *repulsive* act, perhaps
inspired by that artist's desire to decapitate all wonks. Isn't it
also stealing the famous Scroopes arms, Azure a bend or?
As bronze, despite being an Olympic medal, is not a heraldic metal,
not even a heraldic color, not even a color which by another name is
a heraldic color. So wouldn't they HAVE to depict a bronze object
as or?
Which does, I guess, inspire the possibility that Rowena was
assigned the image of the Roman Legion standard that she cherished
among her antiques... [That Rowena even HAD antiques is less than
a theory.]
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