[Fwd: Re: Hogwarts crests (sic)]

Rita Winston catlady at wicca.net
Sun Dec 17 01:49:21 UTC 2000


No: HPFGUIDX 7078

-- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, Amanda Lewanski <editor at t...> wrote:
> This is another plummy comment on the HP heraldry, from my heraldry
> group. 
> -------- Original Message --------

> Reply-To: Discussions of SCA Heraldry <SCAHRLDS at L...>
> Bjarni wrote:
> 
> > Not to mention the fact that the "crests" depicted for the four
> > houses are completely different from those emblazoned on my
> > Hogwarts coffee cup

Is this another complaint against the vile and loathsome artist of 
the wall calendar? 

> > (designed, I believe, by the Hallmark College of Heralds).

No, by Bloomsbury College of Heralds.
Oh, Julie already replied that.

> (Though in either case I cannot fathom how anyone could pass up the
> chance to cant on "Gryffindor" and "Ravenclaw.")

Should I pass on to any list-readers who don't know it, the bumper 
sticker: Heralds Don't Pun, They Cant? 

I'll add my voice to the clamor of those who say that Ravenclaw's 
mascot should be a Raven (possible perching on a pallid bust of 
Pallas) rather than an eagle. Altho' it is possible that Gruffydd 
Glndwr DID choose to bear a lion as his sign, and not change it to 
match the names the Sais gave him...  [Gruffydd Glndwr is my theory.] 

> To answer your question, I'd sooner believe in a world where
> Hogwarts exists than one where a charge may (must?) be the same 
> color as half the field.

Is that a reference to that toad changing the Ravenclaw charge from 
a bronze eagle displayed on a blue field to a bronze eagle's HEAD on 
a bronze bend on a blue field? That was a *repulsive* act, perhaps 
inspired by that artist's desire to decapitate all wonks. Isn't it 
also stealing the famous Scroopes arms, Azure a bend or?

As bronze, despite being an Olympic medal, is not a heraldic metal, 
not even a heraldic color, not even a color which by another name is 
a heraldic color. So wouldn't they HAVE to depict a bronze object 
as or?

Which does, I guess, inspire the possibility that Rowena was 
assigned the image of the Roman Legion standard that she cherished 
among her antiques...  [That Rowena even HAD antiques is less than 
a theory.]





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