Freud/Lacan & H/H; Snow in TX (OT)

Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer pennylin at swbell.net
Tue Dec 19 18:02:04 UTC 2000


No: HPFGUIDX 7308

Hi --

Thanks Ebony for posting that very detailed analysis!  Despite the fact
that I know (or remember) very little literary crit theory from my
college days, I'm duly impressed.  <g>  I'm of course glad to see there
is a bit more support for the H/H theories than some might believe.

Can you explain why Hermione isn't in fact a Mary Sue?  I think Simon
brought this up before you rejoined us.  I don't think she is, but I'm
not entirely clear why I believe this to be so.  I'd love to hear the
explanation from the English lit analysis.

> It's interesting that while we're pretty sure that Harry has
> no feelings for Hermione, and that Ron is beginning to "like"
> Hermione, we have no idea how Hermione feels about the issue.  If we continue
> with the Freudian/Lacanian reading, Hermione (as the literate self)
> yearns for union (sex, of course-—you *know* Freud) with Harry,
> but unconsciously knows that such a wish is impossible.  (Please do not
> flame me by saying they're just children—-remember, we're
> talking about Sigmund Freud here.  Quite frankly, he could care less.)
> However, Hermione somehow knows that such a thing is like wishing for
> the moon... just like no human can re-enter his or her mother's
> womb.
>
> With those glasses on, H/H becomes obvious.
>
Is it that H/H becomes obvious or the Farmer in the Dell theory?

Good luck with the paper Ebony -- I hope you get to do it next
semester!  It sounds fascinating.

Ebony wrote:

> BTW, what kind of flakes do you have in Texas?  (I meant flurries,
> but I was posting after a 20 hour day... please, cut me some
> slack!  :))

Amanda was generalizing a bit I think -- we get considerably more than
flakes in large portions of Texas.  I grew up in western TX and went to
college up in the panhandle -- we had reasonably frequent snow & ice
storms out that way (it's already snowed twice in that area this year
I'm told by my mom).  North Texas (Dallas) gets its fair share of snow &
ice also.  Texas is *very* large -- it's almost 3 times as big as the UK
if my math is correct.  I'm sure I'll be duly corrected if it's off.
<g>

Penny


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