Ron/ Definition of "Shipper" & "Mary Sue"

Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer pennylin at swbell.net
Tue Dec 19 21:50:32 UTC 2000


No: HPFGUIDX 7324

Hi --

naama wrote:

> You know, Ebony, you really hit a nerve here. Only when I read this
> I realized I have an uncomfortable feeling about Ron too. I'm not
> sure it arises from the same reason, though. I think its more because
> of his relative nondescriptness. Hermione is very well defined and
> rounded, IMO, and Harry is also, of course. Isn't Ron a little ... I
> don't know how do describe it - pale, maybe. He's Harry's friend more
> than he is his own person. Even when he has negative feelings they
> are related to Harry (his jealousy of him in GoF). Am I the only one
> to feel this way?

Well, I'd agree more with Ebony that my own discomfort with Ron has to
do with my growing unease that he may be susceptible to betrayal of
Harry because of all his insecurities & envy.  And, like Ebony, I guess
I don't have much sympathy for his troubles.  He has a loving family &
plenty of talents of his own if he'd quit worrying about what everyone
else has.  I think he's the weak link.

> BTW, and just not to clutter the list with further posts from me,
> could somebody please, please, please explain what H/H, H/R and
> shippers (?!) are? Also - who the he.. on earth is Mary Sue?

H/H shipper is someone who favors a romantic pairing between Harry &
Hermione.  H/R (or R/H) shipper is someone who favors a Ron & Hermione
romantic pairing.  D/G - Draco/Ginny; H/G is Harry/Ginny, H/C is
Harry/Cho, etc.

A "Mary Sue" is an original character in a work of fanfiction who
essentially steals the show and gets the preferred romantic pairing (if
the fanfic author has H/H tendencies, the "Mary Sue" character would win
Harry's heart).  I think I'm explaining that one correctly, but someone
should correct me if I'm wrong.

Penny



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