[HPforGrownups] Ron and Harry!!

[Suzanne Burns]

No: HPFGUIDX 7388


Thank you Penny for your thoughtful reply. I was really happy to see this.

Stephanie, please don't tatke this personally, but I have to step in and say
that I get really, really upset when people imply that what I am (bisexual)
is somehow bad, a transgression, something that should be hidden away and
not represented in fiction or in the media. Before you rant about the
indiginities of having to be exposed to alternative sexuality, you might
want to step into my shoes for a moment and think about how it might feel
for people of my stripe to have heterosexuality heaved at us from every
book, magazine, tv, show etc. as the only right and natural way to be. When
the day comes that I find the right partner in life, and if that partner
turns out to be female, I am going to buy a very expensive slot in the NYT
Bridal section to announce it to the world. Deal with it. Gays and Lesbians
are 10% of the population, and I am willing to gamble that many more are
bisexual or polyamorous than we really know about. That is a fair chunk of
the population, so maybe it is time to lighten up.

Who knows what JKR intended? And is it the role of Fan Fiction to stick only
to what she intended, whatever that may be? I always thought of it as a
parallel universe where other writers may explore stories about "what could
be". You are right, these kids are adolescents. JKR, from what I have
noticed in Book Four, is more than willing to ackowledge that adolescents
have hormones and begin to develop sexual feelings at a certain age. Gay and
Lesbian teens develop their feelings right around the same age as
heterosexual teens. Statistically speaking, if there are approximately 1000
students at Hogwarts, then there are approximately 100 gays and lesbians,
and probably plenty more who are going to question and explore their
sexuality. Slash fiction is no different from any other Fan Fiction-- it is
merely exploring the possibilities.

Personally I am an H/H shipper and a big fan of PoU. Lately I have also been
reading Cassandra's Draco Sinister, in which Draco (nasty terrible Draco!
The villian in JKR's story!) is a much more likable and sexy guy. Geeez, and
here I am writing my own hot and heavy island story about Sirius Black's
brief and stormy relationship with a Tantric mermaid . . . . . It involves
lots of gillyweed and pina coladas!  If slash fiction is offensive and a
transgression, then so is this, in spades.

Peace,

Suzanne



Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer wrote:

> Hi --
>
> Stephanie Becvar wrote:
>
> > I have let built up frustration and anger on this subject simmer for
> > far too long.  I want to voice...LOUDLY if i must, my disent at the
> > slasher
> > group...or whatever they are called.  First off by saying that we all
> > know it was never JKs intent and it will never hapen being as thse are
> > children's books.
>
> Well, we really don't *know* that it is not JKR's intent. As best I
> know, I've never read a JKR interview where she's said anything about
> homosexuality or her intent with regard to homosexual characters.  We
> can be fairly certain that each of the 3 main characters has expressed
> some heterosexual tendencies at this point ... but they are only
> adolescents.
>
> And, uh, .... don't get me started on the whole "these are ONLY
> childrens' books" after all business.  If they are ONLY childrens'
> books, why are any of US here?????!  She's said over and over and over
> (and Penny has repeated it over and over and over again) that she did
> NOT set out to write children's books, and she has no target audience in
> mind for these books.  The publishers figured they'd slap a 9-12 age
> group label on the first book, based on the fact that Harry was 11 in
> Book 1.  Noone asked JKR where these books were headed and if that label
> would still be appropriate for Books 4-7.
>
> > HP to me is not the melodramatic world of american television where
> > virtually every show has a gay/lesbian character on it...(in case
> > anyone wonders, I dont have a problem with gay ppl, all of my step
> > mothers siblings are and i love them all to pieces)
>
> Well, to be honest Stephanie, your post is making it sound a bit as
> though you have a problem with it.  Maybe tv shows in America all have a
> gay or lesbian character now because it's finally acknowledged that this
> is representational of our society.  I'm quite sure that Susan will step
> in with her arguments for why there should be a gay/lesbian character in
> the HP series to serve as a role model for so many kids who feel so
> excluded by mainstream culture.  While I agree with Susan in theory, JKR
> may or may not have that in mind.  I'll applaud her if she does.  I do
> agree that the 3 main characters exhibit no tendencies in this direction
> but like I said, adolescents have been known to change their minds in
> the course of all those raging hormones.
>
> Like Heidi said, it's important to keep in mind that this is an
> alternative universe that the slash fanfic writers are talking about.
> All fanfic is in fact an alternative universe.  Thus, even if Ron &
> Hermione get married at the end of Book 7, I can continue to believe in
> my mind that it should really have happened as it does in PoU.  <g>
>
> Penny
>
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