Fred and Rosemary West

[Denise Rohleder]

No: HPFGUIDX 7571

Neil, could you send a link or something?  I haven't heard about this story....
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~~Dee~~
:)

"Night is the hardest time to be alive.
 It lasts so long, and 4am knows all my secrets."
(Poppy Brite)

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Flying Ford Anglia 
  To: HPforGrownups at egroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 5:36 AM
  Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: My two knuts worth


  Responding to Leilani, who said:

  <<<I joined the group a few days ago and have nearly gone blind 
  perusing the archives.  Here are some thoughts/comments.  Forgive me 
  if they have been discussed.>>>

  Welcome Leilani.  The archives here are a wee bit daunting, it's true 
  (the length of "Goblet of Fire" is a mere trifle in comparison) and 
  topics resurface now and then.  

  You've raised some interesting questions. Can I register a quick `no' 
  vote on Grandpa Dumbledore and a R/He marriage.and move on to the 
  others? <g>

  <<<1.  Harry does not receive the accolades he deserves for the 
  amazing feats he has performed.  After all, he has overcome evil 
  personified and preserved the very existence of wizards and muggles 
  alike, several times now.  He should at least get his own room at 
  Hogwarts.>>>

  Cosseting Harry by giving him a room of his own surely wouldn't fit 
  Dumbledore's apparent plan to toughen Harry up for his future role.  
  He would want to develop humility and modesty, as well as strength 
  and talent, in his protégé.  More to the point, I think Harry would 
  view a single room as a penance rather than a luxury, as it would 
  isolate him from his friends and give the other students (especially 
  Ron) even more reason to resent his fame and fortune.

  <<<2.  The Dursleys are child abusers.  You would think someone in 
  the neighborhood or a teacher would have recognized that and turned 
  them in before Harry was old enough to go to Hogwarts.>>>

  It's true that someone could and should have noticed the stark 
  contrast in physique and dress between Harry and Dudley and concluded 
  that Harry was unfairly disadvantaged.  However, people aren't always 
  attuned to the various forms child abuse can take and questions that 
  should be asked are often left unsaid.  If the Dursleys' neighbours 
  didn't hear the sounds of violent physical abuse, they would perhaps 
  have assumed that nothing was wrong.  They would, thus, have 
  overlooked the mental torture, psychological threats and deprivation 
  suffered by Harry, most of which were achieved with hardly a raised 
  voice.

  In the UK, the recent case of Fred and Rosemary West brought this 
  type of `hidden' abuse home in chilling fashion.  The Wests lived in 
  a cosy suburban house, where Fred killed more than a dozen young 
  people, including one of his daughters, while his wife Rosemary 
  helped him dispose of the bodies in their home and under their 
  garden.  Throughout their childhood, the Wests' other children 
  experienced unbelievable psychological torture right under the noses 
  of their respectable neighbours.  It sounds unbelievable that it took 
  so long to come to light, but it happened.  

  <<<5.  The descriptions of relationships of house elves to their 
  masters sometimes sounds uncomfortably erotic.  "She bound him to her 
  with her own special brand of magic".  Ewww.>>>

  Elven eroticism? That's an unusual perspective!

  Neil



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