[HPforGrownups] Re: Marty's Devil's Advocate Post

Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer pennylin at swbell.net
Fri Dec 22 16:28:25 UTC 2000


No: HPFGUIDX 7583

Hi --

naama wrote:

> --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Flying Ford Anglia"
> <neilward at d...> wrote:
> >
> > Yes.  In this scenario, JKR neatly side-stepped Harry's need to
> > make a public choice between his two best friends.
>
> I don't have my copy of GoF here (its out earning its living), but as
> I recall, Harry was thinking that "its much less fun, and much more
> hanging in the library" when Hermione is your best friend. That would
> imply that normally (when they're not not talking) Harry considers
> Ron his best friend.

Nope.  Just means that he's a 14 yr old boy who misses his male best
friend.  He doesn't have anyone but Hermione.  Ron has all the other
Gryffindor guys to hang out with during their fight.  One does wonder
why Harry couldn't have approached Neville, who seems the type to have
been loyal to Harry also.  I will never, never, never buy the argument
that Ron is somehow Harry's "better" best friend because of the above
line.  It just means that Harry needed his male best friend too.

> He just isn't bothered. And just to remind all you H/H shippers - Ron
> was, very much so!

We don't need reminding!  Ron is clearly bothered, jealous & upset -- he
*clearly* likes Hermione!  I can't imagine that there's any dispute from
any H/H shipper on that score!  What's in dispute is who *Hermione*
likes!  Most of us subscribe to some Farmer in the Dell theory or some
belief that R/H won't last & will burn out, leaving Harry free to date
Hermione when they're both adults.

> I would think that each contestant's most important thing was
> revealed through magic. Prbably through the magic of the contest
> itself.

Umm .... that might be.  But, just because Harry's was Ron doesn't
preclude Neil's scenario that Ron was his 2nd choice (or 3rd).  I still
think it was probably gleaned by a committee of staff members from each
school.

>  > **Could Harry (somehow) have named Ron, because he thought Ron
> needed > a public affirmation of his friendship to boost his self
> esteem,
> > whereas Hermione did not?
>
> Grrrr. You admitted that they were not asked about this.

Why are you "grring" Naama?  Neil didn't say they weren't asked -- he
asked if they were or if it was divined some other way.  It's all
speculation unless JKR ever says how it worked.

Another question I forgot to add to my response to Neil's post:

*** How did Ron feel when he & Hermione went to Dumbledore's office &
Ron learned that Hermione was Krum's treasure??  <g>

Penny


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