H/H v H/R

milz absinthe at mad.scientist.com
Fri Dec 22 17:42:25 UTC 2000


No: HPFGUIDX 7587

I agree with J. K. Rowling (see Time Magazine Article): none of these 
kids are perfect and each has faults and insecurities. Harry is 
scarred by his past. Hermione is insecure about her Muggle past and 
copes via overachievement. Ron has an "unconventional parent" 
(Rowling's own opinion concerning Mr. Weasley's fondness for Muggles 
and Muggle things). 

But I agree strongly with Rowling that Ron is the "classic 14 year 
old".  If Ron is the classic 14 year old, then he might very well be 
the most "normal" one of the three. Perhaps his "normalcy" is the 
heart of the group. Harry wants a family: Ron has a family. Hermione 
has a hang-up about her Muggle-ness: Ron belongs to a pure wizard 
family (mentioned by Dumbledore in CoS). 

Hermione's bond with Harry is that they are both outsiders to the 
wizarding world and to the other Hogwarts students. Both were raised 
in Muggle households. Both have larger than life reputations: Harry 
is a living legend and Hermione has distinguished herself as the 
smartest in the class. While this bond might lead to a future Harry-
Hermione attraction, I can't forget the old saying "opposites 
attract" nor can I forget Rowling's own admission that there is 
something going on between Ron and Hermione, but Ron doesn't realize 
it. Not to offend the fanfic authors and fans, but we can't forget 
that the *official* Harry Potter Canon is whatever J. K. Rowling 
writes.   

:-) Milz  

--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Carole Estes" <lrcjestes at e...> 
wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer" <pennylin at s...>
> 
> > naama wrote:
> 
> > > Are they? I think not. Both Harry and Hermione are ambitious in
> > > their own domains) and highly insecure. They both continually 
need to
> > > prove themselves. They would *not* be good for each other as a
> > > couple. OTOH, Ron's stability, cheerfulness and lack of intense
> > > ambition makes him very suitable to be Hermione's mate in life.
> 
> I'm with Penny on this one.  Ron's got a quick temper, is easily 
offended by
> references to his poverty, to the point of getting bent out of 
shape when he
> realized he hadn't paid Harry back for the Omnioculars, even when 
Harry is
> saying don't worry about it.  He refused to trust his best friends 
word that
> Harry was not out to enter his name in the GoF.  Ron does not seem 
to me the
> cheerful, sunny, no worries type of guy that you see him as.
> 
> He also seems to me the type that would eventually resent being 
overshadowed
> by a very successful wife.  I am one who believes that Ron and 
Hermione will
> date in the canon, all obvious signs point in that direction 
(although I
> think the Farmer in the dell is plausible).  But I can't see it 
lasting
> after Hogwarts.  I know, we will never know what happens after 
Hogwarts and
> noone knows if any of the three will survive that long...that's what
> fanfiction is for.
> 
> >  Ron is incredibly
> > insecure (I agree that Harry & Hermione have their own 
insecurities but
> > Ron's insecurities are at least threefold what either H or H
> > demonstrate).  He's constantly trying to be better than everyone 
around
> > him ... what was it he saw in the Mirror of Erised -- himself, 
standing
> > alone, more successful & admired than any of his friends & family.
> 
> Additionally, Ron gets much less praise and confirmation of his 
worth than
> either Harry or Hermione.  Hermione has the respect and accolades 
as the
> superior student.  Harry gets the accolades as the hero.  Ron is 
there
> supporting and cheering both of them.  So while Hermione and Harry 
are
> getting the confirmation needed to alleviate their insecurities, 
Ron has
> not.  As has been said in previous posts, what Ron needs is a place 
to shine
> in his own right, and that has not been shown, yet.  And it seems 
to me that
> with his established tendancies to want fame and fortune, that 
unless he
> gets some recognition soon, he's going to become much less stable 
than we've
> seen to date, particularly as he heads into adolescence.
> 
> I have to note here that I was a complete non-shipper ("they're 
just kids!")
> until I read PoU.  That converted me to a H/H shipper, but only 
after
> Hogwarts.  I'm keeping my ship for the Hogwarts years in dock until 
JKR
> writes more.  Who knows maybe Hermione will fall for Draco Malfoy 
(rather
> than Harry or Ron)!
> 
> carole





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