H/H v H/R
milz
absinthe at mad.scientist.com
Fri Dec 22 17:42:25 UTC 2000
No: HPFGUIDX 7587
I agree with J. K. Rowling (see Time Magazine Article): none of these
kids are perfect and each has faults and insecurities. Harry is
scarred by his past. Hermione is insecure about her Muggle past and
copes via overachievement. Ron has an "unconventional parent"
(Rowling's own opinion concerning Mr. Weasley's fondness for Muggles
and Muggle things).
But I agree strongly with Rowling that Ron is the "classic 14 year
old". If Ron is the classic 14 year old, then he might very well be
the most "normal" one of the three. Perhaps his "normalcy" is the
heart of the group. Harry wants a family: Ron has a family. Hermione
has a hang-up about her Muggle-ness: Ron belongs to a pure wizard
family (mentioned by Dumbledore in CoS).
Hermione's bond with Harry is that they are both outsiders to the
wizarding world and to the other Hogwarts students. Both were raised
in Muggle households. Both have larger than life reputations: Harry
is a living legend and Hermione has distinguished herself as the
smartest in the class. While this bond might lead to a future Harry-
Hermione attraction, I can't forget the old saying "opposites
attract" nor can I forget Rowling's own admission that there is
something going on between Ron and Hermione, but Ron doesn't realize
it. Not to offend the fanfic authors and fans, but we can't forget
that the *official* Harry Potter Canon is whatever J. K. Rowling
writes.
:-) Milz
--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Carole Estes" <lrcjestes at e...>
wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Penny & Bryce Linsenmayer" <pennylin at s...>
>
> > naama wrote:
>
> > > Are they? I think not. Both Harry and Hermione are ambitious in
> > > their own domains) and highly insecure. They both continually
need to
> > > prove themselves. They would *not* be good for each other as a
> > > couple. OTOH, Ron's stability, cheerfulness and lack of intense
> > > ambition makes him very suitable to be Hermione's mate in life.
>
> I'm with Penny on this one. Ron's got a quick temper, is easily
offended by
> references to his poverty, to the point of getting bent out of
shape when he
> realized he hadn't paid Harry back for the Omnioculars, even when
Harry is
> saying don't worry about it. He refused to trust his best friends
word that
> Harry was not out to enter his name in the GoF. Ron does not seem
to me the
> cheerful, sunny, no worries type of guy that you see him as.
>
> He also seems to me the type that would eventually resent being
overshadowed
> by a very successful wife. I am one who believes that Ron and
Hermione will
> date in the canon, all obvious signs point in that direction
(although I
> think the Farmer in the dell is plausible). But I can't see it
lasting
> after Hogwarts. I know, we will never know what happens after
Hogwarts and
> noone knows if any of the three will survive that long...that's what
> fanfiction is for.
>
> > Ron is incredibly
> > insecure (I agree that Harry & Hermione have their own
insecurities but
> > Ron's insecurities are at least threefold what either H or H
> > demonstrate). He's constantly trying to be better than everyone
around
> > him ... what was it he saw in the Mirror of Erised -- himself,
standing
> > alone, more successful & admired than any of his friends & family.
>
> Additionally, Ron gets much less praise and confirmation of his
worth than
> either Harry or Hermione. Hermione has the respect and accolades
as the
> superior student. Harry gets the accolades as the hero. Ron is
there
> supporting and cheering both of them. So while Hermione and Harry
are
> getting the confirmation needed to alleviate their insecurities,
Ron has
> not. As has been said in previous posts, what Ron needs is a place
to shine
> in his own right, and that has not been shown, yet. And it seems
to me that
> with his established tendancies to want fame and fortune, that
unless he
> gets some recognition soon, he's going to become much less stable
than we've
> seen to date, particularly as he heads into adolescence.
>
> I have to note here that I was a complete non-shipper ("they're
just kids!")
> until I read PoU. That converted me to a H/H shipper, but only
after
> Hogwarts. I'm keeping my ship for the Hogwarts years in dock until
JKR
> writes more. Who knows maybe Hermione will fall for Draco Malfoy
(rather
> than Harry or Ron)!
>
> carole
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