[HPforGrownups] Ron and ambition

[Snuffles MacGoo]

No: HPFGUIDX 7624

Hey everyone -

Naana said:

> Are they? I think not. Both Harry and Hermione are ambitious in
> their own domains) and highly insecure. They both continually need to
> prove themselves. They would *not* be good for each other as a
> couple. OTOH, Ron's stability, cheerfulness and lack of intense
> ambition makes him very suitable to be Hermione's mate in life.

Penny said
OMG -- are we reading the same books?  Ron's "lack of intense
ambition"????  He's *the* most ambitious character in the series in my
book.  We've only seen the tip of the iceberg in GoF IMO.  He's far more
ambitious than surface-level ambitious Percy.  Ron is incredibly
insecure (I agree that Harry & Hermione have their own insecurities but
Ron's insecurities are at least threefold what either H or H
demonstrate).  He's constantly trying to be better than everyone around
him ... what was it he saw in the Mirror of Erised -- himself, standing
alone, more successful & admired than any of his friends & family.  Well
.... all I can say is we have a very different perspective on Ron.  I
don't see him as stable, cheerful or unambitious.  Completely the
opposite in my book.  Ron has lots of great qualities, but a healthy
level of ambition is not one of them (IMO).

This is brilliant! I never saw ron this way before, or at least I guess I was 
aware that he had these conflicting motivations but I never thought it out. 
Great insight from both of you (I think that on some level you are both right 
is what I am trying to say). Ron has to be self-effacing and unambitious 
because he has no chance to shine, to be important, it would only (and probably 
it) frustrating to be ambitious so he represses whenever possible

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