Ron - relationships - J & L's jobs

[Kimberly]

No: HPFGUIDX 7825

--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, SKTHOMPSON_1 at m... wrote:
> Okay, as I've gotten caught up on the posts, I see all my last post 
> did was repeat Kimberley's post (<g> sorry about that).  

It's quite all right - I'm glad I don't stand completely alone!

>And, I see 
> where many points were attacked.  Maybe addressing what the 
> characters 'need' stems from that we're (many of us) adults who have 
> been through all that H, H & R, not to mention G, are just starting 
> to go through now. As adults, we're better understanding what a 
good, 
> healthy relationship 'needs' and trying to impose that on the canon.

And also maybe we're forcing real life onto fiction, which can be 
deadly.  As I said, I'd be a no-shipper if this was the real world, as 
I'd rather real kids become adults before choosing their lifelong 
mates.
  
> I just don't think JKR is going to take it to that depth.  I 
wouldn't 
> expect to learn what Ginny 'needs' in an adult relationship.  True, 
> as Rita said, Harry may die, but I'm considering this happening less 
> and less as time goes by.  I may think differently by the time OoP 
> comes out; something in it may reinforce the 'Harry's gonna die!' 
> suspicion.  But, for now, I'm thinking probably not (that he'll 
die), 
> and I really hope not Snape either.  People keep pointing out 
> that 'opposites attract' doesn't mean the relationship will be good, 
> or even work at all on any level.  I do agree with this, IRL, 
> anyway.  As for Ron and Herm being the Bickersons, it's usually him 
> needling her, and she reacts, right?  He and Harry are both unsure 
> how to 'talk' to girls, maybe he's just still in the 'pester them' 
> stage.  Hormones have just really started kicking in.  

See above about imposing reality onto fiction, and also nearly every 
romantic comedy ever made to support my feeling that the bickering is 
just the immature minds way of masking deeper feelings that they are 
not yet ready to deal with.  I don't think it indicates an unhealthy 
relationship at all.

Yes, he 
> drooled over Fleur, as did all the guys, pretty much; but he's 
> probably (unconsciously) mixed up over 'liking' Herm, and seeing her 
> as one of his best friends--a pal, a buddy, a fellow adventurer.  
> These kids are going to do a lot of growing up in the next few 
> books.  Maybe Ron will come into his own and mellow out a bit.  I 
> know a lot of young men (and women) who did a lot of maturing 
between 
> 14 and 17, and they never had to face a Vold, either.  I still 
expect 
> Ron to be a smart-aleck (that's his 'role' after all, he makes the 
> wisecracks, he's comic-relief), but in a more good-natured way.  I 
> really believe JKR's going to go for the 'happily ever after' angle, 
> the neat and easy tie-up.  

I'm hoping and praying that that's what she's going for, since she's 
created characters that I've grown to love so.  The only reason for my 
stance is that I honestly think that it gives *all* of the characters 
the chance to be Happy Ever After.


>I never really saw Ginny as whiny, as 
much 
> as pretty freaked out, btw.  We are talking about the CoS Ginny, 
yes? 
> GoF Ginny was pretty subdued and calm, plus, seemed maturing quite 
> well.  Refused to tell her bro and Harry (her crush) whom Herm was 
> going to the ball with, seems like a good start.  And, like someone 
> said, we'll see more of her in OoP, and after as well, I'm sure.  

I also think that her kindness to Neville (and her admonishing Harry 
and Ron not to make light of him) speaks very well of her.  That 
solidified in my mind that she is going to eventually be proven worthy 
of Harry's love.  Harry and Ron and even Hermione have not given the 
boy enough credit in the past, but she stood up for him.  She needs 
some more development, but I already quite like her.

kimberly

> BTW, Amy was asking about J & L's jobs?  JKR said what they did will 
> be important to the story, but yes, James' money and cloak were 
> inherited.  And, I do think "Order of The Phoenix" refers to those 
> who fought Vold twenty-five years ago, all the good guys, rather 
than 
> Dumble's peers.
> 
> Okay, out again...
> 
> Kelley