Little comments on Dumbledore, Lily and James, etc.

[Firebolt]

No: HPFGUIDX 7896

Charmian wrote:

<The older characters, IMO are probably more likely to get killed off.
I don't see Dumbledore dying until VII or the very end of VI at
least, because he's too important to the plot and structure of the
series. Though I do suspect he will die, because they're always
talking about how old he is, and the mentor dies quite frequently
too.
It would be exceedingly depressing if Rowling did kill off Sirius or
Lupin. But there's not really much that makes me suspect she would.>

IMHO, Dumbledore *has* to die, or in any case
somehow lose his omnipotence. Harry depends on him too much - he's never
going to become mature enough and strong enough for a final showdown with
Voldemort if deep down he's thinking that as long as Dumbledore's there,
everything will be all right.

Now, I don't want Sirius to die, and I certainly don't want Remus (my
favorite along with Harry) to go down either. If it's any consolation, Remus
does have a major part in book seven, meaning he's got to be around until
then...of course, if I've got my rumors correctly, we also supposedly find
out why some people become ghosts and others don't in that book as well, so
maybe Remus dies in book V (he is a favorite of JKR, so maybe he's the death
that will half kill her - please, no!) and comes back in VII...argh.

In terms of Lily and James, I have a question: Why does everyone assume they
got married right out of Hogwarts? Did I miss something in the books? Age
19/20 is really quite young for marriage, and we don't know much about their
pre-marriage romance, either - maybe they were just friends who fell in love
after they left Hogwarts, and got married afterwards. For that matter,
there's also the matter of ageing. Harry doesn't know about that particular
fact of wizard life yet, and from Dumbledore and McGonagall we can sort of
gather that even at the age of, say, 70-100, wizards and witches look only
youngish or middle-aged, so maybe MWPP are actually in their 40s or 50s...or
is there a flaw in my logic?

~Firebolt, especially incoherent today

Charmian wrote:

> --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Scott " <harry_potter00 at y...>
> wrote:
> >
> <snip>
>
> > I am still undecided as to whether I think Harry will die. All I
> can
> > say is "We shall see".  Then again I have been wondering whether or
> > not Voldemort might die in books V or VI and then...well I could
> > ramble incessantly (if I'm not already) but I think I just let
> > everyone else comment.
>
> Well, I agree that Rowling isn't going to go for horror style graphic
> violence (notice that Adavra Kadavra is a quick death, not a painful
> drawn out one). I actually thought she was going to kill off a
> regular character in book IV.
>
> Where did people get the idea that Harry was going to die? This seems
> a pretty regular one in the HP Character death poll. I personally
> doubt that he will...Rowling just doesn't seem to be writing that
> dark, at least so far. Same thing for Hermione and Ron. I think about
> the darkest thing happening recently in the books is the fate of
> Neville's parents.
>
> As for Voldemort, unless Rowling pulls an "evil behind the evil" plot
> on us, I don't see him dying until book VII, but he probably will
> perish in some fashion.
> The older characters, IMO are probably more likely to get killed off.
> I don't see Dumbledore dying until VII or the very end of VI at
> least, because he's too important to the plot and structure of the
> series. Though I do suspect he will die, because they're always
> talking about how old he is, and the mentor dies quite frequently
> too.
> It would be exceedingly depressing if Rowling did kill off Sirius or
> Lupin. But there's not really much that makes me suspect she would.
>
> As for the faculty, I doubt she'll kill of McGonagall, as she's set
> up to be Dumbledore's successor. Snape, on the other hand, is
> possibly acting as a double agent, always a risky job, and is *not*
> on Voldemort's good books anyway, to put it mildly. The rest of them
> don't have enough pagetime for me to suspect one way or the other. I
> actually do hope she tells us more about them, especially the
> perennially mentioned but never very present professors Sinistra and
> Vector.
>
> Charmian
>
>
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