[HPforGrownups] Possession
Carolina
silmariel at telefonica.net
Wed Jun 7 21:37:37 UTC 2000
No: HPFGUIDX 90091
This reply is general, for the thread:
Kneasy:
>The "Lord Voldemort is my past, present and future." quote is a
>worry. Is it Diary!Tom emphasising that he is only an episode from
>Voldy's lifeline or is it an indication that Voldy was there before Tom
>became aware of him and Tom is dependent on Voldy for his future
>existence?
I wish we could ask Grindewald. One thing that makes your idea credible for me
is the coincidence in dates of Tom's 7th year and the defeat of Grindewald.
Not entering in details it seems too near to defeating Voldemort in Harry's
7th year. Pity I don't know if another Dark Lord was defeated by the time of
Grindewald coming of age.
Julie:
>What I am talking about is
>empowered. They were presented with a choice (much like LOTR ring)
>and chose to be empowered by whatever this "power source" was. Just
>as LOTR (Smeagoll/Gollum specifically), the choice was always before
>them.
Power is so easy to adquire and so difficult to control and maintain. I kept
Julie's quote so no one acuses me of not leaving open the 'choose' option. If
the character does not choose, I'm not talking of that kind of possesion, ok?
At least for Tom and Harry, Ginny and Imperios are other matter.
But there is a kind of possesion that we haven't considered, I think. We don't
have the entity whispering the correct phrases to mislead the character. Or
we may have it and haven't noticed. If harry is being attacked in this way,
he hasn't realised, so we also haven't.
I think we all know that trick, in tv series is usually made in a transparent
way to the audience, so it is clear what thoughts are from the character and
what are being inserted by whatever entity into his/her mind. For what I
remember, the character is always able to resist/fight the possesion.
The first time in OoP that I read Harry complaining about everything he had
done and how it wasn't recognised by others [+eternal ramblings],... he
didn't seem Harry. I know the first explanation is Harry is young,
hormones... but I'd like to left open the possibility of external bad
'feelings' being poured drop by drop without Harry or the readers noticing
it, I'd like to read a good case of slow, subtly done soul corruption from
the victim's PoV.
silmariel
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