[HPforGrownups] Re: Heather/education/job training, the white collar question, and assorted ramblings.

[Denise Rogers]

No: HPFGUIDX 5157

TO be honest, I never really hated going to the other classes (or else I
wouldn't have taken all the courses in Social Sciences in HS, and graduated
with a major in SS as well as Accounting/Computer vocational).  I liked to
learn about the history of the US but the other cultures were limited to one
class:  World History.  Again, the class was taught by the basketball coach.
If a student in there didn't want to deal with the subject, he'd get him
talking about last Friday night...  We stopped right after Israel became a
country, due to it being June! :)

My major problem currently is my age.  Starting back to school late, like I
did, I feel I have to cram in all the "good" classes, and leave the "fluff"
out, hence my attending the two year instead of the UofA.  I really do want
a degree, but can't afford the time it would take to take the extra
classes--I need a job now!  (This is what I thought when Ian was a year old,
and I had to make my decision on where to attend)  Once he's in a day-school
situation, like Elementary school, then I might have time to devote to going
to one class a year to get that BA.  (Fingers crossed!)

Oh, and for the poll.

Associate's Degree, Computer Programming.
age:  32, one son age 3
Computer at home (and in debt due to it, lol) with a cable connection
Reading materials?  Ack.  Anne Rice, Anything fantasy--Katherine Kurtz,
Piers Anthony, historical romance (Catherine Coulter sp?, Johanna
Lindsey...),PC Magazine, PC World, Better Homes and Gardens, Gardening
(which, is funny--I live in a third floor apt without a backyard!),
Handyman--again, lol!, Working Mother types, Children types (Parenting,
Child, etc...),The Repository (www.cantonrep.com) which is the local paper,
the Beacon the other local paper but that's Akron based, Herbal remedy
books, Wiccan books, Tarot books...

Is that enough of a list?  Grins.  Yes, I too abused my library card as a
kid.  I used to take a brown paper bag (the big grocery store ones) with me
each time I went to the library--nothing smaller would have fit all the
books.  I went every weekend.  (aside:  walked in there about six weeks ago,
and 12 years later, the same librarian is there, and she recognized me on
the spot.  Guess I did spend too much time there!  Of course, they've
remolded and installed Netscape-bound PCs everywhere....shudders at
Netscape)



Seeking white collar employment, which my friend doesn't understand--he's
trying to get me at the gas station with him!  Btw, he's reading HP and his
entire family has already!  (The eldest boy, and his wife--the younger two
still are below reading age)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Susan McGee" <Schlobin at aol.com>
To: <HPforGrownups at egroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 11:12 PM
Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Heather/education/job training.


> --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Denise Rogers" <gypsycaine at y...>
> wrote:
> > Not certain about the others, but I think I absorbed the jist of
> your post.
> >
> > In a traditional local 4-year college, we have to have what I was
> told is
> > called a "well-rounded" education.  This means we are forced to
> take classes
> > like "The History of China" when we're Engineering majors (a
> friend's
> > courseload currently), or the "Physics of Light" when we're an
> education
> > major.  These "extra" courses are supposed to give us a firm base
> for doing
> > our job later.
> >
> > I for one don't understand the reasoning behind this (where on
> earth in the
> > computer field are you going to use the history of china unless you
> go
> > there?) but I agreed to it when I was attending Akron U
>
> it's the whole idea of a liberal arts education. Please forgive me;
> I may not sound like myself. My father (gone ten years) felt
> strongly about a liberal arts education, complete with European tour,
> even though he himself grew up working class. It's the idea that
> education is not about job training.
>
> My parents were upper middle class wannabees even though they were
> both brought up working class. They brought us up middle class.
>
> Part of this was the idea that we should get a broad based education.
> Specialization would occur in graduate school, or law, medical school.
> I almost became an attorney. My brother is  Ph.D. english professor.
> I do have a master's degree, but it is irrelevant (mostly) to my work.
>
> The liberal arts degree idea is that everyone should have a basic
> education. Engineers should know about Homer. Historians should have
> a basic understanding of scientific and mathematical principles.
> Everyone should know something about art and music. (Uh, is it Mark
> Twain who talks about a basic education?. Usually, there was the
> expectation that people would learn a foreign language (although non-
> U.S. people
> take this as a given, most people in the U.S. know only English).
>
> The idea is that knowing the history of another country (China, for
> example) would broaden a person's horizons, help them think outside
> the box, expose them to different viewpoints about the world (same
> idea as the European tour).
>
> The "better" the university, the more that they subscribe to this
> concept, and require their students to be proficient in many
> different areas. I myself was a bit impatient with the college p.e.
> requirement, but actually enjoyed what I ended up taking (fencing)
>
> I like this idea (probably because it's the father within). I'd like
> my kids to have basic skills (cooking, auto maintenance, sewing,
> word processing, basic computer skills, financial planning, swimming,
> first aid, drawing, reading music, -- you get the idea) and a good
> solid basic education that would include math, science, english
> (grammar, literature, and writing), languages and history.
>
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