[HPforGrownups] Voldemort/Richard III/Lucifer

[Peg Kerr]

No: HPFGUIDX 2937

Caius Marcius wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peg Kerr" <pkerr06 at attglobal.net>
> To: <HPforGrownups at egroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 06, 2000 6:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [HPforGrownups] Voldemort/Richard III/Lucifer
>
> > ht wrote:
> >
> > > --- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Caius Marcius" <coriolan at w...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > There is, as JKR has shown us, a world elsewhere.
> > > >
> > > As someone who bought the British versions of the HP books while in
> > > Stratford ON for the festival, I quite agree!
> > >
> > > Apropos of nothing, did anyone else quite think "Of course! Richard
> > > III!" while reading the scene in GoF where the shadows of the people
> > > Voldemort had killed come out of his wand and circle Harry and
> > > Voldemort, whispering encouragement to Harry and G_d-knows-what to
> > > Voldemort?
> >
> > Yeah, I love that scene (in both GoF and Richard III). I've already
> > posted several messages about the similarity, but I'm too lazy to go
> > look them up now.  I was pretty pleased when I saw that similarity,
> > too.  Hurray for liberal arts.
> >
> > (even further off topic And do you know about the similarity between
> > THAT scene in Richard III to the scene in Paradise Lost, where Lucifer
> > practically says the same line that Richard III says--where can I fly,
> > when most I fear is myself.  Or something.  I wrote a paper on it in
> > graduate school, lo these many years ago, but I'm not in the mood to go
> > dig it out of the basement to doublecheck the reference.)
> >
> >
> > Peg
>
> Peg, this is the 21st-Century - one no longer digs literary texts from one's
> basement; one does a Web search, and then hits the "Copy" icon.
>
> Satan's speech is at the beginning of Book IV, as he first arrives on the
> Earth (in case you aren't familiar with Milton, he has Hell set off in
> distant interstellar space, and Satan has to travel some considerable
> distance to our planet).
>
>     - CMC
>
> Me miserable! which way shall I flie
> Infinite wrauth, and infinite despaire?
> Which way I flie is Hell; my self am Hell;

etc (snip)

Um, Caius, actually if you want to get really technical about it, it's still the
20th century.  Don't your remember all those arguments around last December 31
about when the 20th century really ends? ;-)

And yes, I know you can find Milton on the Internet.  What I was referring to
when I spoke about digging around in my basement, was the paper I wrote, which,
I assure you, was never posted on the Internet.  That's ok, nobody probably
wants to read it now anyway, even me!

But thanks mucho for posting the quote--that made my point nicely.

Peg