[HPforGrownups] Harry's lack of consideration . . .

Jinx jinxster at cyberlass.com
Tue Oct 10 20:06:35 UTC 2000


No: HPFGUIDX 3150

One big point to consider.  He's male.  Since when have men ever admitted
they're wrong? ;)  He's also a teenager, and they're very self-centred
anyway.

Seriously, he needs character flaws.  Where would the plot be with perfect
characters?

Jinx

> As I feel like being controversial today . . .
>
> One of the problems I have with Harry's character is the lack of
> consideration he gives to others, even those who are his friends.  For
> example, in GoF he has absolutely no idea why Ron is so upset with
> him.  Despite the fact that Ron has made it obvious how overshadowed he
> feels by his brothers, Harry has no clue just how much it bothers
> Ron.  It's Hermione who has to explain Ron's feelings to Harry (and her
> understanding it makes for a nice H/R arguement).  And despite knowing why
> it has upset Ron, he's refuses to understand, instead focusing on himself
> and how *he's* the one insulted.  And in the end it's *Ron* who is the one
> to end the fight.  Not Harry -- Ron.
>
> The other thing that bothers me is his thoughtlessness about Voldemort's
> other victims.  In SS/PS he says he's going to try and stop V because of
> what Voldemort did to his parents.  Harry already knows that a lot of
> people died because of Voldemort but the only thing that matters to him is
> his parents.  Now, I'll give him a break in the first one because he was
> just a kid, but in the later books he never seems to think about anyone
> else either. (This has led to a line in a fic I'm working on where
> Dumbledore says "You're not the only one who lost someone you loved to
> Voldemort.  Never forget that.")  Harry does seem to forget that and I can
> never quite forgive him for that.
>
> I still think Harry's a good kid.  He's just a bit . . . selfish.  He
never
> seems to consider anyone else's POV but his own.  However, I will say that
> GoF will probably mature him considerably.  Cedric's death should help him
> understand that he's not the only person hurt because of Voldemort's
> actions.  I still can't understand why he was so immature towards Ron
> though. . . . I'm quite sure Ron would have ended the fight sooner had
> Harry not been so immature about it (the whole throwing the pin at Ron and
> saying 'You've always wanted a scar' bit).
>
> Anyway, I'd be interested in what other people think about this :)
>
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