[HPforGrownups] Re: Pondering a Snape thing

[Amanda Lewanski]

No: HPFGUIDX 3165

eliasberg at ioc.net wrote:

> There is something bothering me.... Snape was a Death Eater
> he showed us at the end of GoF and we know when the dark
> mark burned on the arm we know they all congrigated around
> Voldie.

But Snape did not go to Voldemort. At the gap of about six people, Voldemort
muses about the missing ones; the one that I think is Snape is the "one lost
completely," but the point is, Snape wasn't there. The burning of the dark
mark was a summons, not a transportation spell. Snape did not obey that
summons.

> So Snape knew Wormtail was the traitor not Sirius, he knows Sirius was an
> enemy of Voldies and next to die after the Potters (he says that in PoA
> that Voldie would come after him, but Snape would know because this would
> have been discussed in the inner cicle meetings to plan the killings).

I don't get the feeling that Voldemort was the type to over-explain his
actions or orders. Or even to explain them at all, except at a whim or to
fill a need for the instrument to understand its purpose. He's like
Chernobog in Disney's Fantasia, the devil on the mountain, who is amused by
the dancing imps and then gets bored and idly crushes them. I don't think
Voldemort's interested in counsel, so I don't think there was much
discussion. And I don't think any of the Death Eaters knew who the others
were. So there is no good reason for Snape to know anything but the party
line about Sirius, and to believe he was the traitor and the danger and that
Pettigrew was dead.

> Snape knows who all the inner circle is and has all along,

Nope, I think somebody had that cite, that the Death Eaters were not known
to each other.

I think Snape was acting honestly under the information he had, although he
was a bit zealous and did let the schoolboy grudge get in the way (which
kind of reinforces what I think, that there was more involved than just a
schoolboy grudge and even Lupin might not have known details which Sirius
did). Nobody of Snape's personality could bear to be around anyone who knows
they have been (in their opinion) humiliated, and if Lily turned Snape down,
Snape would know she told James, which would mean Sirius would know, which
would enrage Snape.

I also think Snape was more than a little exasperated that he had managed to
save these three little snits and nobody says so much as thank you, they all
yell at him and want him to *listen* to this convicted murderer. Another
reason for vehemence.

--Amanda