[HPforGrownups] Re: Some observations and inquiries
Denise Rogers
gypsycaine at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 11 19:27:43 UTC 2000
No: HPFGUIDX 3251
Ok, taking a stab....
Lily, and "Friend" were sitting home, handing out candy to the tricker treaters (Do you do that in England?), when two rather large kids knock and one announces in a low-toned voice, "Trick. No treat."
The friend has door duty, and when he sees Voldie in costume (?), he yells out to Lily "It's Him...off." At this Lily runs off, towards where the owl is, and sends the owl off with a message for James. James comes immediately home, apparating, btw, when he gets the message, but of course owl-flight does take a few extra seconds.
Meanwhile friend (who would have come out after Lily in the wand, but we never went that far), is killed by Voldie. Voldie chases Lily. That batch is well known, the scar, the evaporation of Voldie leaves just the DE with the baby, but as he starts towards Harry, James appears, and holds him off. Meanwhile, the equivalent of police sirens (and prolly real ones!) are going off in the Wizard world.... The DE picks up Voldie's wand, he forgot his own, and zaps James. Let's see... How about Sirius pops in next, and the DE apparates away, leaving baby Harry, two dead parents, and one guilty looking Sirius at the scene. Of course the DE takes Voldie's wand.
And if that DE happens to be Peter?
Just a thought.
----- Original Message -----
From: Joywitch
To: HPforGrownups at egroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 12:45 PM
Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Some observations and inquiries
--- In HPforGrownups at egroups.com, "Lisa Rourke" <lmrourke at s...> wrote:
> On to the observation...with Halloween approaching, I was thinking
about
> that date and the fact that it was the day that Harry's parents
were killed
> by Voldemort. I'm sure somebody has probably noted this but things
always
> seem to happen at Hogwarts on this date also. In PS/SS the
mountain troll
> attacks Hermione on Halloween. In CoS the Chamber is opened and
Harry hears
> the basilisk in the pipes in the wall on Halloween. In PoA Sirius
Black
> slashes the portrait of the Fat Lady and in GoF Harry is named the
Fourth
> Champion after his name is spit out of the Goblet of Fire.
Interesting.
>
Very perceptive, Lisa. I dont think anyone else caught that one.
the chapter
> in PoA where Professor Lupin is trying to teach Harry how to
produce a
> patronus. Chapter 12 pg. 240-241 What stuck in my mind was the
part
> ....."...then came a new voice, a man's voice, shouting,
panicking-"Lily,
> take Harry and go! It's Him! Go! Run! I'll hold him off-". And
Harry
> says "I heard my dad" "That's the first time I've ever heard
him-" I
> always took that at face value. Harry heard his father. But how
does he
> know the voice he heard really belong to his father? We know the
female
> voice is that of his mother, she's even referred to by name. But
Harry
> assumes the man's voice is his father's because he knows that they
were
> together when they died. I think it would be just like JKR to make
us
> believe this by having Harry state it as fact. I suppose one could
argue
> that he actually saw his father and heard him speak in GoF when he
came out
> of the wand but under the circumstances I don't he had time to
compare the
> voices he heard. I just thought this would make an interesting
twist and
> lend credence to the theory that maybe somebody else was there
trying to
> protect them or warn them.
>
This might also help explain the whole why-did-James-and-Lily-come-
out-of-the-wand-in-the-wrong-order problem, although Im not sure
how. Anyone want to take a stab?
--Joywitch
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