[HPforGrownups] Re: Temperance/overweight & a question

[Denise Rogers]

No: HPFGUIDX 3536

I don't agree that being overweight is associated with
villains as such - I'd say most bad guys are portrayed as thin and dark.
Doubtless, someone will now post a list of fat villains.

Hmmm.  Let's start with the Movie Porky's?

Seriously,  in Disney:  Ursala, from the Little Mermaid is not a beanpole.  Neither is Governor Ratcliff (spelled right, I hope?) from Pocahontas (nor Percy, lol).  The lead baddie in Candleshoe is also a bit stout, as is his female counter.  Queen of hearts, from Alice in Wonderland, and of course, the Sheriff of Nottingham (which animal he is I am not certain, though!).  Oliver and Company's Stokes' is not thin.  Toy Story2 has Al, and of course, the aunt in James and the Giant Peach .  Return of Jafar also had someone find Jafar's lamp who was a bit rotund.  Aristocats had Edgar, a bit "love-handled" butler.

The Muppet Movie (original) had Doc Hopper (again, the gentleman from Porky's!),  and there are probably more in my collection, but I haven't gone through the adult movies, just the Disney section!

There are also a few villians who could play for the Chicago Bears, but I didn't classify them in the above category:  such as Gaston, Captain Hook (although the Father was the bad guy, sorta), Rattigan from Great Mouse Detective, ...  (I think you get the idea...)


Sorry Neil!

Dee





Also, from Batman returns, the penguin?
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Neil Ward 
  To: HPforGrownups at egroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2000 6:01 PM
  Subject: [HPforGrownups] Re: Temperance/overweight & a question


  Catlady said:

     One of the Theological Virtues (or are they called Prudential Virtues?)
  is      TEMPERANCE. Unlike the anti-alcohol movement, TEMPERANCE doesn't
  mean    asceticism, it means everything in moderation.

  True, and in that sense temperance would have to be the overriding virtue,
  controlling any sort of excess.  It does mean self-restraint as well, and
  because of the temperance movement this might well be interpreted as 'don't
  do anything that might be regarded as a good time'.  I work for the alcohol
  industry, so don't get me started on temperance...  

  Hmmm.  Anyway, this is premature.  Peg hasn't got to temperance yet <g>...


  Amanda said:

     On a related note, has anyone noticed that overweight characters are often
     the bad guys, or bumbling idiots? ... I think weight is an often
  overlooked    and thus still very perpetuated stereotype.

  I agree that the 'fat fool' sterotype is still going strong and it's
  annoying to see films like "The Flumps" being made for supposed
  entertainment.  I don't agree that being overweight is associated with
  villains as such - I'd say most bad guys are portrayed as thin and dark.
  Doubtless, someone will now post a list of fat villains.

  ***

  I have a question now.  It's something that's been raised before in one form
  or another: Which child/adult in HP are you most like?

  After pondering, I'd say I'm quite like Neville - a forgetful, clumsy
  underachiever who has improved with age (if I had a toad, I'd lose it).  As
  for the adults, I'd be a hybrid: twisted, sarcastic and aloof like Snape,
  but trustworthy, tolerant and prone to mood swings like Lupin. Doesn't sound
  too hot, does it?

  Neil



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